Sharpening the Benchmade Griptilian / Matrix Stones

[@richyf194]

As someone who is fairly new to sharpening and interested in the Edge Pro systems, your sharpening videos are by far the easiest to understand and the most comprehensive and relevant that I have watched. And I've watched a lot of them, believe me!! Just a shame there's not more of them. I could watch these all day. Excellent.👌

[@AdamasOldblade]

A year and a half since I first saw the Matrix stones go on sale and now I just received the last to complete my full set today. Oh man I am happy.

[@2guysandacooler]

What!!!!!! Seriously love the new style. I feel 2019 is going to be a huge year for edge pro KZbin channel. Keep it up Cody. I can only guess how many hours it took to put this baby together! Great work.

[@EdgePro]

Eric, yes I'm excited to start making more videos. My problem is that although the videos are getting a little better, I'm not getting any faster at making them. A 12 minute video takes me about 12 hours to make, maybe more. And I do all the editing at home in the evenings. I don't know how some people are able to make really high quality videos on a daily basis. I guess it all comes down to lots and lots of practice.

[@2guysandacooler]

@@EdgePro You are absolutely right. Lots of practice. You will get faster trust me I know. Keep up the great work!!

[@im1who84u]

@@EdgePro A few things here. The people that make daily videos: May have better video equipment. Making videos is what they do, they are not also running a successful knife sharpening business and making videos. Videos ARE their business. That's all they do and have 24 hours a day, seven days a week to do only that. No family, no other business to run, no kids, and no other obligations. In other words, they don't have a life outside of making those daily videos. They live, breed, an sleep those videos. Under those sorts of circumstances it's only normal they would be very good at that one thing they do. They may have others helping them. We all like you Cody and you are doing good. Please don't over extend yourself and cause the great quality we've come to expect from Edge Pro suffer.

[@davidapplewhite8434]

The magnet I just got for the Apex works wonders on holding a Griptilian on its face! You guys are making a good product!

[@EdgePro]

Thanks David. I haven't forgot about that other project I'm working on for you. It's still in the works but I need something that's on backorder so it will be a little bit.

[@anthonywaldrep5982]

I loved the video format! Awesome job!!

[@EdgePro]

Thanks Anthony!

[@Tisirfall]

The matrix stones are pretty awesome. I got the 250, 650 and 1100 grit ones. They cut pretty fast without much pressure and you can easily finish on the 1100 already which leaves a pretty polished finish with quite some bite.

[@valebliz]

Agreed. I own the standard diamond fine and UF stones, and the matrix 650 and 1100. Great stones and after the 1100 imho diamond compounds stropping gives very good results. 4 micron, 1 micron and 0.5 micron progression.

[@TravisTLK]

I've owned the Apex for going on 7 years. It's fun to straighten/center factory grinds and I haven't had much trouble at all with different style knives. One thing I have found a bit challenging recently is matching the angle on scandi grind knives like my Mora and GEC Farm & Field. The grind face is so thin, even when using a permanent marker it can be hard to see. Love these vids. Keep them coming.

[@EdgePro]

Thanks for watching Travis. I've found that sharpening in an area with good lighting can be very helpful. When I was sharpening commercially there were a couple restaurants that the lighting was terrible and it made it difficult to see what was happening at the edge. So I started bringing a head lamp with me and it really made a difference. Not sure if that would be helpful in your situation or not but you might give it a try.

[@TravisTLK]

@@EdgePro Thank you for the tip! I will give it a try.

[@newhampshireman5751]

Love the durability on those diamond matrix stones. Thanks for that pull stroke pro tip on the higher grits.

[@brandonmaples]

Can you show how too do a TANTO blade on your all’s system thought about ordering your all system for my recon1. Thanks man

[@EdgePro]

Brandon, here is a tanto video I made a while back. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4bJcpWXhLeEY5o It was one of my first videos. Feel free to call me if you have any questions. 541-387-2222 -Cody

[@davidapplewhite8434]

Keep the videos coming!

[@kierandaxton2597]

A tip : you can watch series at Flixzone. I've been using it for watching loads of movies recently.

[@adrielismael1904]

@Kieran Daxton Yea, have been watching on flixzone} for years myself :D

[@Bobby-fj8mk]

Hi Cody, you need a slip collar to allow for the different thickness of stones.

[@AdamasOldblade]

Great video as always! This is Eugene by the way. Good speaking with you on the phone today Cody, cannot wait for my professional model!

[@EdgePro]

Just shipped it out Eugene! Hope you love it.

[@ScotWalt858]

Sierra Hotel! Thanks!!

[@MrMZaccone]

Great video, Cody. If I can suggest one test I use for sharpness, get some phone book paper and curl it into a loose cylinder. If you can cut into the rounded surface of the paper without supporting it excessively, you know you've got something. The reason I think this is a solid test compared to cutting paper the way most people do is that most people cut paper edge to edge with the knife, increasing the overall unit pressure. That's just going to be easier, in fact, It's almost cheating. Cutting into a slightly curved surface of paper on the other hand, generates lower unit pressure and relies on the edge of the knife to generate that pressure. Try it. I have no doubt you'll be able to get it to work and it really is much more impressive a test.

[@EdgePro]

Edmond, I'll have to try that. I remember you telling me about this awhile ago. It sounds like a pretty tough test to pass!

[@MrMZaccone]

@@EdgePro Certainly tougher than cutting paper at its edge but not as tough as some things. A good kitchen knife sharpened consistently at 20° or so and finished with the ceramic rod the way Ben has demonstrated can almost always pass it. Have you seen this gadget? edgeonup.com/index.html

[@HeartsXoXd]

Great idea, I will try it!

[@HeartsXoXd]

Also, the sound it makes cutting the paper is what I pay attention to. If it makes almost no sound, that it crazy sharp. Depending on the blade and the grind of course, but most folders certainly should be sharp enough to cut paper almost silently.

[@ryanvartman]

I don't understand why shifting the knife to the right after removing the thumb stud will increase the angle at the tip? I should have payed attention in geometry.

[@stevenknight8237]

Perhaps the THUMB stud lifts the KNIFE a tad?

[@malatoke]

Good work on this video! Can you do a video with tips on sharpening knife tips? I tend to have knives that have a wider bevel at the tip than the rest of the knife.

[@AlexanderMason1]

20cv is known for being hard to sharpen. One of the hardest. Nice.

[@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743]

No arm bars or chokes were applied in the making of this video. However, there was some really nice teaching on grips and holds as well as a nice removal technique! I just got the knife back and, I am happy with the edge characteristics and its polish from the diamond matrix stones. No, That paper test did not do the edge justice! It is free hanging hair slicing sharp! Good roll Cody! That was truely black belt level!

[@EdgePro]

Thanks Travis! Great comment! This was a fun video to make.

[@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743]

@@EdgePro Thank you! I really enjoyed this video! It was fun and I learned alot! I definitely have some new things to try with this knife in the future!

[@im1who84u]

@@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743 There is a comment on this video that states your Benchmade is a counterfeit. I also own a Benchmade and that comment has me concerned. Do you have any comments on this?

[@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743]

@@im1who84u This is a 100% false claim as the knife comes directly for Benchmade located in Oregon. I still have the receipts. They add to the sentimental value. The order was actually a change order by phone. The box that everyone is mistakenly complaining about comes from there Lifesharp program. Each time it went in I got or made a call in regard to the knife to check in on the status. For good measure and quality assurance the receipts of the work up came in the return boxes. Benchmade has a destroy counterfeit policy as part of there Lifesharp policy!

[@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743]

As an update in regard to this Griptillian, I still EDC it everyday. I still sharpen it on my Apex as it is still on those outdoor conditions! I use the resin bonded dimond stones. Lastly mud, dirt, lint, saw dust, grit and grim trying its best it has not failed and it is still a great reliable knife kept sharp an Edge Pro!

[@John-xk7uo]

What degree was this sharpened at

[@russellpeterson7548]

Just purchased an Apex and that was one of my first questions... that is, same pressure on both push (leading edge) and pull (trailing edge)? Different pressures? I guess light pressure with the polish tapes and just pull strokes, sure. But otherwise?

[@EdgePro]

Russell, I apply pressure on the push stroke, except when I begin with the polishing tapes, or when using the 2300 or 4000 grit matrix stone. However, I don't think that there is anything "wrong" with doing it one way or the other. I just think PUSH strokes are easier to apply pressure with. I've experimented with doing it both ways - I personally cant tell any difference with the end result. It will get sharp either way.

[@russellpeterson7548]

@@EdgePro Cool. Thanks.

[@Tisirfall]

@@russellpeterson7548 the apostle p channel has some stellar edge pro tutorials too. Including some essential tips and things you want to avoid doing too.

[@claytonbigsby6975]

question is. can yiu sharpened s30v wigj the regular stones that come with the edge pro.

[@EdgePro]

Yes you can. It is important that your stones are clean, and that you have the right stone pressure and speed in order for them to cut.

[@steveniedowicz8335]

Dude I'm you. I own a tacoma. Love benchmade and drink lots of coffee. 😅

[@EdgePro]

Did we just become best friends? 😂

[@highvibration894]

G-day Cody Great vid thank you ,looking forward to more in the future. Just wondering mate was that a pm2 you used to open the box and if so was it the run of the mill pm2 or you packing something different than standard s30v. 🔪👍

[@EdgePro]

Roln Thnda, Yes that was a PM2. S30V. It was given to me as a gift in 2014. I really like it.

[@Daveparadise]

I HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE FUTURE!!!

[@My_Bow_L.Y.F]

Did anyone notice that the benchmade box is a fake?? Or am I wrong??

[@EdgePro]

I'd have to see it side by side with a box that I knew 100% was legit. The Chinese Spyderco clones are quite convincing, I imagine it's the same for Benchmade. You could be right!. . . ????

[@Aldo-zp8wk]

@@EdgePro ..he's right that box is fake and so is the knife..

[@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743]

@@Aldo-zp8wk This is a 100% false claim as the knife comes directly for Benchmade located in Oregon. I still have the receipts. They add to the sentimental value. The order was actually a change order by phone. The box that everyone is mistakenly complaining about comes from there Lifesharp program. Each time it went in I got or made a call in regard to the knife to check in on the status. For good measure and quality assurance the receipts of the work up came in the return boxes. Benchmade has a destroy counterfeit policy as part of there Lifesharp policy!

[@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743]

@@EdgePro This is a 100% false claim as the knife comes directly for Benchmade located in Oregon. I still have the receipts. They add to the sentimental value. The order was actually a change order by phone. The box that everyone is mistakenly complaining about comes from there Lifesharp program. Each time it went in I got or made a call in regard to the knife to check in on the status. For good measure and quality assurance the receipts of the work up came in the return boxes. Benchmade has a destroy counterfeit policy as part of there Lifesharp policy!

[@therka3214]

i would never go back using old water stones..Its completly different experience using resin bonded diamond or even better cbn stones!!! Poltava Diamond Tools Resin CBN Stones will outperform and outlast even matrix..Im enthusiast sharpener and used everything comercialy avalaible..But i love matrix very much too..brand not so important,look at the price/performance ratio..while matrix stones will last few years they have only 1.6mm of abrasives..Venev resin bonded stones offer 3mm and little bit better binder especialy ocb..Thats why im buying them..Give me same 3mm and ill buy matrix with pleasure..But not half for 23% more money of the same product..

[@Aldo-zp8wk]

That Grip is a fake Benchmade.

[@im1who84u]

Interesting. I own a Benchmade and would like to know what you saw that told you this was a counterfeit. I'd like to verify that I have not been taken.

[@Aldo-zp8wk]

@@im1who84u ..well for starters the box isn't a true Benchmade box also the blade material looks terrible and a poor type of steel. There are a few videos on KZbin that show the knockoffs in detail I'm sure you can find them. I hope that you do have a legitimate Benchmade knife they are quite nice..

[@im1who84u]

@@Aldo-zp8wk Thanks, I am going to look into it. Unfortunately I don' have the original box anymore.

[@im1who84u]

@@Aldo-zp8wk Oh, one more thought. Edge Pro sharpens a lot of knives. Don't you think Cody would have been able to see right away that this was a counterfeit?

[@Aldo-zp8wk]

@@im1who84u ..yes I thought the same thing..how can he not notice that the blade looked like crap. But who knows why he didn't notice.

[@Den-nu6pv]

I think that knife might be a counterfeit

[@travisthejiu-jitsuguy3743]

This is a 100% false claim as the knife comes directly for Benchmade located in Oregon. I still have the receipts. They add to the sentimental value. The order was actually a change order by phone. The box that everyone is mistakenly complaining about comes from there Lifesharp program. Each time it went in I got or made a call in regard to the knife to check in on the status. For good measure and quality assurance the receipts of the work up came in the return boxes. Benchmade has a destroy counterfeit policy as part of there Lifesharp policy!

[@Cheusow]

What angle is here?