PragerU & The Law

[@BlueGangsta1958]

I hate it when people boil Rosa Parks activism down to that one bus incident. She wasn't just a random seamstress who wanted to sit after a long day of work, she'd been fighting for civil rights for years

[@felix4596]

"During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it." - V.I Lenin. There's a reason why we only are taught the whitewashed history of MLK and other great heroes of America, and thats to keep you unconscious of the power that you wield as a worker.

[@zHxIxPxPxIxEz]

"Rosa sat one day and mlk had a dream and LBJ made rascism doubly illegal"

[@plaguefellow4956]

I believe there was a woman before Rosa parks that defied the bus issue but she was older so she wasn’t used as a face for the campaign

[@chrisalvarez4575]

she was a communist and a member of the BPP. ofc they're gonna whitewash her story

[@fighttheevilrobots3417]

Let's not forget Claudette Colvin did the same thing before Rosa Parks and at the age of 15.

[@thomasakagi7545]

"If you value your life- comply" is how I was taught to deal with muggers, not cops.

[@corpsehandler5321]

eh, potayto, potahto

[@alexbruckshaw1448]

@@corpsehandler5321 eh, potato, potato

[@kekwnet]

Same difference

[@rosem325]

@@kekwnet no, no, muggers are less likely to kill you. they can actually be arrested for murders

[@scrotiemcb5858]

@@rosem325 Every year there are about 320,000 robberies in the US and about 2000 fatalities, so your chance of being killed per robbery is about 1 in 160. Over the same period of time, police arrest about 10 million people and kill about 1,000, so your chance of being killed per arrest is roughly 1 in ten thousand. You're in about 60 times more danger during a robbery than during an arrest, on average, although you're also about 30 times more likely to be arrested than robbed.

[@Sephoris]

It's also worth noting that the narrator for "Cops are the Good Guys" is a disgraced former sheriff who was forced to resign after multiple people died at his jail. Real "good guy" they got there.

[@theultimategamer8537]

That’s pretty rich, it’s like they’re trying to discredit themselves

[@anmolt3840051]

So you're saying, "he is no angel" ?

[@soupalex]

ah, but they were probably definitely criminals, and they probably definitely deserved to die, so he was clearly doing us all a favour! /s

[@hughmac13]

Yeah, that is worth noting.

[@glitchedoom]

The people who support this shit don't thing prisoners are human beings. That IS good guy behavior to the Prager U audience.

[@briansager3744]

"Solving homelessness" by moving the homeless people to another city is literally the plot of a South Park episode.

[@MrJohndoakes]

It was also the reality in a certain Southern Californian metroplex before COVID; bus passes given to get people out of one town to another town in the same county, but they would drift back.

[@grahamrskelly6042]

Mitt Romney gave the homeless in Utah( for Olympics). bus tickets to Seattle. Same Old story repeated over and over

[@roojackaroo8517]

It was happening before it became a south park episode and is what the episode was based on

[@alicebrown6215]

It's also literally the response to homelessness that a lot of major cities use, at least pre-covid. Almost like South Park is riffing on reality, or that the gross incompetence and corruption in the us government is comedic. or maybe its both

[@BigroomBlitz1]

I was thinking the same thing

[@Anna-md5nc]

"I never thought the leopards would eat MY face" says man who voted for the Leopards Eat Everyone's Faces party

[@basedbattledroid3507]

God tier analogy

[@gyrozeppeli4862]

This is honestly the best thing I've ever heard

[@TimEssDub]

That's the "Shirley exception"

[@highjumpstudios2384]

But I voted for them. Why would they eat MY face. I lobbied for them to eat other peoples faces, I campaigned from one end of the country to the other in their name!

[@Hvision0000]

the leopards ate my neighbors face and i said nothing, for i am not my neighbor

[@blade6321]

I love how they write "1930s Germany dissenters" because "antifascist" would be too controversial for their viewers lol

[@nob2243]

Well obviously, PragerU audience would have their brains imploded if they heard the bad, nasty "a***-f*****t" word.

[@vylbird8014]

In the Pragerverse, the nazi party were left-wing extremists.

[@GenuineMartin]

I've been noticing this a lot recently (though examples abound going back ages). Conservatives and frightened centrists always talk about "1930s Germany" when they want to wave at the idea of rising fascist power, or "1940s Germany" when they want to say holocaust. A lot of tiptoeing around Nazism. To be honest, I don't think it's anything as rhetorically intentional as not wanting to let people say "antifascism is good". I think a lot of the time it's just pure Voldemort rules, you don't say "Nazis" because Nazis are the baddies and the thought terminates there. It's a mental shortcut to cowardice. Sometimes it's designed as a gotcha, to make the listener go "Heeeey, that's the Nazi times!" It is not as clever as they think it is. The rest of the time, I think it's a subconscious defense against putting that specific political label on positions they support. I'm sure it would be uncomfortable to list off a bunch of positions you support, like blaming the Rothschilds and believing in a weird Lebensraum-style manifest destiny, and then also saying not being allowed to pursue these as policy is tantamount to Nazism. So they keep it vague, 1930's Germany.

[@joriankell1983]

Can't let the public know that Nazis rose to power in response to Communist terrorism in Weimar Germany. And he won't tell you Antifa was and is still run by his fellow tribe members

[@harrycooper5231]

@@joriankell1983 Wow, your post is just completely wrong. But hey, prove me wrong and provide a reputable source explaining that *"Nazis rose to power in response to Communist terrorism in Weimar Germany"*

[@FilthyTrot]

'In the 1800s, the Northern states abolished slavery, while the Southern states enforced the law'. -PragerU logic.

[@vigilantsycamore8750]

In my country (Poland), there's a law against "hurting religious feelings." The right-wing government uses that law to arrest people who say things like "Jesus would be against violent bigotry," but apparently it's okay for the same government to call Islam an "invasive force" or for public figures to claim that non-Catholics aren't *real* Poles What I'm getting at is, this kind of double standard applies all over the world

[@dwaipayanroychowdhury7035]

What is the attitude of Polish populace to non-Polish Catholics?

[@TenositSergeich]

Poland probably took it from Russia, which had laws against "offending religion" for about 7 years now. Its obviously used to dismiss very shady things Russian Orthodox Church does as essentially part of RF's fascist government. They are pretty much never used for any other religious practices of peoples _native_ to RF's vast territory, like Sunni and Shia Islam (though Kadyrov's presence means there isn't as large a push against Islam), Vajrayana Buddhism, and endless array of native faiths of Mari, Saha, Koryaks, Nivkhs, Chukchi, and many many more.

[@dwaipayanroychowdhury7035]

@@TenositSergeichIs this like a federal law that is binding on all federal subjects?Or does the republics and autonomous okrugs have different laws regarding religion?

[@TenositSergeich]

@@dwaipayanroychowdhury7035 Its part of administrative code which applies to all constituents of RF. To my knowledge the wording is "intentional public desecration of a religious atributes", which can be vague. To be fair, the first person arrested for breaking this law was making negative statements against Islam, but threat of offending Christian Orthodox feelings is far more palpable for most people.

[@Ultimime]

Almost as if authoritarian bigots the world over don't actually care about anything other than subjugating everyone else.

[@christianbuffum-robbins8904]

There's a disgusting irony of Dennis Prager comparing himself to Rosa Parks, who'd he certainly be against if he was around then.

[@collinbeal]

Dennis Prager comparing himself to a socialist political activist and organizer isn't so much disgusting as it is hilarious in its irony. It would be like Ben Shapiro comparing himself to Malcolm X

[@hornylink]

@@collinbeal when you put it like that...ben shapiro has almost certainly compared himself to malcom X

[@Owesomasaurus]

"If you don't want dogs and firehoses used against you, follow the law!"

[@VoiceOfTheEmperor]

He'd be on Himmler's payroll so fast.

[@seanmatthewking]

@@hornylink Yes, but conservatives don’t have a nice clean purified image of Malcolm X like they do of MLK. Malcolm is _the bad one._

[@miketacos9034]

A right wing family member once told me, “You have no idea how horrible communism is! It’ll turn our country into a police state!” And I just didn’t have the heart to tell her.

[@ZedF86]

Lol. She might be right, but for ALL of the wrong reasons.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Those people NEED to be told

[@unclejoeoakland]

Yeah well you see, in Communism, you have to wait hours to get a medical appointment, and you'll have shortages of basic goods like paint, or toilet paper, and oh shit...

[@kurteisner67]

@Shasvin Puvanesvaran The fun thing is that there is no discernable difference between Dennis Prager and the communists here. This video could as well be Marxist-Leninist "education": "Whatever the militsiya says, comply. Just like in the Party with democratic centralism, you may disagree, but you're still obliged to comply anyway."

[@kurteisner67]

@Shasvin Puvanesvaran See, my point was that if you take the socio-political context out of it, there's no fundamental difference between the authoritarianism of Dennis Prager and that of, let's say, Vladimir Lenin. The authoritarianism "as thing itself" uses the same circular reasoning for justifying its existence. The inconsistency of the law is something rampant in communist states as well as in conservative thinking: Like the conservatives such as Dennis Prager demanding obedience from Afro-Americans while reserving themselves the right of civil resistance for, the political cadres in communist states demand sacrifices from the proletariat they're not willing to make themselves. Double standards in both cases. The two party system is truly a disgrace and hinders actual democracy. It's a heritage of the British, and a very bad one.

[@bobdidahthing]

*”When PragerU was asked to stop spreading their contradictory and biased opinions, did they comply? No.”*

[@VoiceOfTheEmperor]

And then the FBI came knocking with an APC and he was unable to make any further content as his KZbin channel was shut down as well...

[@rogerroger9952]

When they were asked to stop spreading the Coronavirus, did they comply? No.

[@stiltpuppy]

"when a cop gives you a lawful command" does he ever say what to do when a cop gives an unlawful command? Does his gun stop working?

[@superfly2449]

I noticed that. Evil wears a nice suit and never misses a meal.

[@DragonOfVenezuela]

When a cop gives you an unlawful command you're supposed to point it out and he pulls out a giant million dollar check and shakes your hand

[@FTZPLTC]

I assume that, by his definition, any command a cop gives you is lawful because a cop is giving it to you.

[@highjumpstudios2384]

It does actually, the trigger just won't work. Pull it as hard as you like, it won't budge.

[@goingunder2548]

God it's like arguing with a child. 'But the police can't be bad because they're told not to so obviously they wouldn't! No one in a position of authority has ever abused their power!' Yet surprisingly I've met 8 year olds who are more skeptical of police than Dennis is. How does that happen?

[@emorydomke7773]

I love how they say something as weird as "1930s Germany dissenters" to weasel their way out of using that dreaded term: antifascists.

[@funoff3207]

Not necessarily the same thing, if you resist the Democrats in the US you're not a anti-Rebublic or anti-democracy

[@emorydomke7773]

@@funoff3207 no, but you would presumably be an anti-Democrat

[@noiselatrine9862]

@@funoff3207 Your too busy goose-stepping to realize what you typed,lolz.

[@Reddsoldier]

PragerU is a safe space that avoids using trigger words for conservatives who don't believe either are valid things.

[@fyodorscave]

@@Reddsoldier lmao

[@randomplaceinruralamerica9618]

Prager loves to put up this facade of “Man Rosa Parks was so noble” Everybody here knows what his stance would’ve been back then

[@Kickiusz]

"Rosa Parks was so noble and also Robert E. Lee was great because he brutally put down slave uprising" -literally PragerU

[@LylWren]

Yo the way he said "blacks" made me cringeso hard

[@joet3935]

I would say that anyone who doesn't support BLM wouldn't support Rosa Parks. Not to say that everyone who supports BLM would.

[@andrewboyko8304]

@@LylWren it’s the hard R that does it.

[@kylewilliams8114]

Mythologize the activists and they can then control the myth: like how MLK jr wasn't a socialists at all, he just had a dream.

[@kevinroth1049]

Rosa Parks: Fought for the equal treatment of black people Dennis Prager: Fought for his right to spread a deadly virus to others. Yes Dennis, you are truly the next Rosa Parks.

[@nukiradio]

Rosa sat in the front of the bus, Praeger thinks buses are for poor "urban" people

[@rickyjohnson7212]

So noble

[@vkyal5810]

Besides its LITERALLY JUST WEARING A PIECE OF FABRIC OVER YOUR FACE HOW TF IS OPPOSING THIS EVEN A THING

[@axios7603]

dennis shouldnt be compared just a grifter in a old guy body with smooth brain mind

[@Phatsultan]

It’S aBoUt CoNtRoL

[@smaakjeks]

*Wildlife expert:* Treat the bear with respect. Keep a safe distance and don't be stupid. Bears are just animals, and they act on instinct. It's not the bear's job to keep you safe: that's your job. Your job to be the smart one so a dangerous situation doesn't arise. The bear is not trained to be safe around you, but you can be trained to be safe in bear country. *PragerU:* That's not how you spell "police"

[@Crueltycretin]

Lmao real

[@ohok45624]

When I hear "obey the police or you die", I think of a police call that happened where an autistic man was exploring the new area around his home and the neighbors called the police on him. He literally could not understand what was happening and ran from the police when they arrived. If his dad hadn't lived with him to help him, would the police just have killed him then and there? Is pragurU saying that is okay? Of course they are, but I wish someone could just make an interview confronting him with these questions just to watch him weasel out of all of them.

[@vylbird8014]

There are a load of stories like that you can find. Including one man who was shot because he repeatedly ignored the order of the police officer behind him to turn around with his hands raised. The man was deaf. There's a whole genre of 'it looked like a gun' stories. There's a reason police say to keep your hands on the wheel in a traffic stop - if they see your hands reaching for anything else, they can't know you aren't going for a hidden gun, so are prone to shoot first. Basic police culture: If the officer believes his life may be in danger, shoot first. If the suspect was only reaching for his ID papers or phone, that's their fault for looking dangerous.

[@tinabean713]

@@vylbird8014 Unfortunately this is so true. It's been a while since I had a talk with my autistic son about what to do in a police stop, and I talked to him at a young age about this precisely because of this. I had to emphasize to look a police officer in the eye, don't look down like you normally do, don't put your hands in your pockets.

[@petehjr1]

Autistic man and his helper stopped by the police, cops shoot his helper (a black man) for the autistic man not complying with Police orders.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

Well probably yes, disabled and mentally ill people do get abused by police quite often, particularly here in Australia, they're very violent towards aboriginal people and disabled people, I'm autistic and I've always been terrified to deal with police. They were also pretty much useless when I asked for help in relation to the domestic violence I experienced while living with my dad. Child protective services were equally useless. In my district there was also this incident, about 10 years ago, when a psychologist asked police to check in on a client who had schizophrenia who she was concerned about, he refused to let police into his house and they aggressively knocked down his door, took him out on his front lawn, took off his clothes, handcuffed him and sodomized him with a garden hose, nobody believed him when he attempted to press charges, until his neighbor came back from holidaying and saw footage of the incident on one of his security cameras. It's difficult enough not understanding what's going on, I'm high functioning autistic so I've never had much of a problem understanding those things but expressing myself has always been an issue, my social anxiety is off the charts, I have a lot of trouble speaking, people are always looking at me suspiciously when I've done nothing wrong, I can't tell why, maybe it's the way I walk, and many times people don't have the patience to listen, or they accuse me of doing something because they're misinterpreting my difficulties speaking to them with guilt or something. I mean I've been accused of vandalism/breaking and entering just from being in the wrong place at the wrong time, one day back when I was walking to high school I came across a broken shop window when crossing the street, the shop owner started lashing out at me and threatened to call the police, I'm guessing maybe someone wearing the same school uniform as me must have been involved, but I don't know for sure, I just know I've never been there, I tried to explain I had nothing to do with it, but she called the police and they took me in for fingerprints and I had to go through that whole process for hours and they threatened to beat me into confessing because I tried to run away and apparently that makes me guilty, when in reality I was scared shitless of this crazy woman yelling at me, I didn't want to miss my class again because I was already dealing with enough shit from my teachers, and because I didn't want to go to prison for literally no reason, no one bothered to explain what was happening they just grabbed me and took me to the station, the officers who held me didn't even apoligize or anything when they eventually found nothing to connect me to that break in, they just told me to watch myself, and after all of that bullshit, I almost wish I did vandalize her stupid fucking bakery. I want to spit on that place so fucking badly now.

[@vylbird8014]

@@basedbattledroid3507 Reminds me of a line from, of all places, a children's book. In Matilda, explaining how the abusive teacher Miss Trunchball gets away with brutalising children. The book explains that she escapes the authorities by being deliberately so excessive in her actions that any claims against her are seen as unbelievable, and any child who tries to raise the alarm with parents or police will be dismissed and punished for making up stories.

[@IaMaPh1991]

Meanwhile, Daniel Shaver, a white man and an innocent citizen, did EVERYTHING he was ordered to do by an armed police officer and was still murdered anyway despite desperately trying to comply with tears in his eyes and fear in his voice. It's almost as if the problem is with how much power we give our uniformed officers and the system that enables their behavior...

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@Mac mcskullface Principle* But yeah.

[@christophergreen6595]

Simon says 'die' :(

[@ytpanda398]

That video is on youtube somewhere and it's so fucking awful. The man's crying and begging for his life and drunk and as he tries to shuffle forwards on his knees to let them put handcuffs on him, he falls and puts his hands out to stop himself. When he tries to pull his trousers back up (they get dragged down as his hands are above his head so his legs drag when he falls). The police think he's going for a gun and without hesitation they fired multiple rounds into him. it would've been very easy for them to ask him to keep his hands up and walk over to him, but they shot him in front of his girlfriend. Not a fun video.

[@davidbarroso1960]

@@ytpanda398 that’s why complying isn’t always the safest thing to do. if anyone is in that situation, they should keep their hands high above their head, slowly turn their back to the officers, get on their knees, and ignore all orders until they come up to you and have you lie down on the ground to be cuffed. it’s sad, but citizens have to know how to how to facilitate an arrest better than the police do

[@RaeIsGaee]

@Mac mcskullface That's the whole point of oppression. It tries to destroy marginalized people while instilling fear in those who aren't targeted specifically for that oppression. Much like how in Nazi Germany, Germans were still terrified of the government because they could easily fall victim of the brutal police force and had to be careful when talking about anything the Nazis disproved of.

[@wordsofdv]

I love how our intellectual exercises have come so far from the trolley problem to "What if a cop tells Dennis Prager to put on a mask?"

[@therealgadielsepulveda]

I hope he complies.

[@catsquidcatoverlord9842]

To paraphrase a relevant quote, If he values his life, comply.

[@suezuccati304]

Is Dennis Prager white or black? You can deduce the answer from that.

[@izzsmith602]

unstoppable force meets immovable object, armed police meets antimask old white guy

[@TheEnmineer]

@@catsquidcatoverlord9842 So, he wouldn't wear the mask...

[@jorgeluz9560]

"If you value your life - comply" is a phrase straight out of Robocop

[@ladywaffle2210]

It's straight from Judge Dredd

[@jorgeluz9560]

@@ladywaffle2210 fuck, that's even more accurate, good call!

[@daaaaaaanny]

Also like, the SS. Or any other government-funded militia "serving the people"

[@КостяКудрин-п1х]

​@@ladywaffle2210 I am the law !

[@zekleinhammer]

The Freddie Gray example is so disgusting. He wasn’t killed in the heat of the moment they gave him a ‘rough ride’ as retaliation very consciously and deliberately.

[@TheNinja94a]

But you see, cops can administer whatever punishment they want if you don't comply. Whether or not their punishment is within the confines of the amendments or laws doesn't matter. People unironically think this.

[@littlemoth4956]

@@TheNinja94a They’re allowed to get away with these kinds of mental gymnastics because they simply lack empathy. They won’t have to worry about it, so it must not be an issue.

[@Gobackto4chan]

@@littlemoth4956 It’s not gymnastics. If they see you as part of the lower class your struggle is necessary and a natural part of life, whatever form that takes. If you’re in the upper classes any inconvenience takes away from all of society. They’re just wannabe aristocrats

[@darkestlight660]

​@@littlemoth4956 nah nah, there are people without empathy they can function perfectly fine. some neurodivergent people, some people with mental illness, some unique circumstances I'm general and they don't all go around murdering people. it's because they don't act with the basic fact that people's lives have value, or more specifically that criminals lives don't matter, they are so dehumanized cops couldn't even imagine sitting down with them and being able to have a conversation. that dang dad (a former cop turned radical leftist), talks about what sort of training and socialization happens to cops that accomplish this. this isn't to take away blame from them, just to explain how it went down.

[@bigpapamagoo8696]

I saw this post once that really sums it up well- why do ordinary people with no training whatsoever have to remain levelheaded and calm while there’s a gun trained on them while the trained officer holding the gun wearing protective body armour and carrying numerous weapons is allowed to be nervous, panicky, and jump to wild conclusions.

[@TheTdroid]

We all know why: Because it isn't the police's job to enforce the law, but the hierarchy. Even US cops are perfectly capable of de-escalation and responsible interactions with people, even protesters. As long as they are white, upper middle class and conservative.

[@thejuiceking2219]

because they're THE MODERN DAY KNIGHTS OF OLD SENT DOWN FROM GOD TO PROTECT US FOOLISH MORTALS!

[@1th_to_comment.]

"When I mess up, I'm called a fool and an idiot! When you mess up, oh it's just one of them things."

[@darthdiabetes1250]

​@@1th_to_comment. -Bill Williamson

[@rooty]

To be fair, I think they're only slightly more trained than you are

[@alicedeligny9240]

I'm not quite sure Mr Prager would have been on Mrs Park's side back in the day, but whatever.

[@IIxIxIv]

I don't think he'd be quite in the side of 1930s dissenters in Germany either

[@malic_zarith]

@@IIxIxIv I don't know about that one. He is a super religious jew.

[@thecanmanification]

Imagine thinking that Rosa Parks would be anti BLM lol. Conservativism is just a constant struggle with mental gymnastics

[@ChipsDeBurnish]

The Shrödinger's side

[@verdantmischief7092]

Dude's old enough to have been alive during segregation and is still anti blm

[@21Arrozito]

It's like conservatives have only recently discovered the need for citation but haven't yet figured out they need to read past the headline. A few years back, Steven Crowder posted a video about how climate change wasn't real and cited an article that said the estimated temperature shift would be 1.5C. Crowder used this to argue that climate change won't have any huge effects. Big if you go read the article, the actual tag line says: "... by 1.5C, that's a lot and it's a problem here's why..." He didn't even read past the title. The article was citing was saying the opposite of what he thought it said.

[@blacklightredlight2945]

I’m honestly mesmerized by their ability to be so dense. I would never cite something I haven’t read, because that defeats the purpose of a citation

[@matttran7161]

This is accurate, they're surface level thinkers that only need to go so far to deliver a particular result. I watched a lady post an article about masks that contradicted her point in the abstract. Conservatives are literally incapable understanding anything that involves Choice, Context, or Consent.

[@pain002]

@@blacklightredlight2945 no man what you should have been mesmerized by was the fucking like-to-dislike-ratio on that steven crowder Video. Thank god he took it down but when I wanted to cry I'd just go under the comment section. I have never in my life talked to so many morons in a few days. Their own Sources are AGAINST their stance. Yet they still think they are right. Gold...if it wasnt so sad

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

I’d want to give his intelligence the benefit of the doubt and say that he did read it and just lied about what it said, but I doubt it

[@babafrog1877]

Im sorry for this incredibly late reply but I was rewatching this vid and wanted to chime in. I once saw a news article about conversion therapy being banned and a bunch of people in the comments celebrating cause they thought conversion was transitioning. 💀💀 Its so fucking shameless

[@padfoot2116]

So I know it’s prageru, but....can I just say how scary it is to have armed police yell at you to get out of a car after pulling you over to ‘check the registration’? Nothing bad happened to me but I wasn’t driving, I was the one forced out of the car, and although I obeyed I was still treated like a criminal and held at gunpoint despite the fact that even if the registration was invalid it wouldn’t have been my fault.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Pigs...

[@grmpEqweer]

Having someone aim a gun at you is terrifying. 0/10 would not recommend. ...I don't know if you filed a complaint, I think I might have with someone.

[@notrod5341]

Fucking gunpoint? Over vehicle registration? Forgive my reaction but as a white dude in the UK I'm obviously not subject to such hostility. I'm glad you're okay after that situation, it sounds horrifying

[@padfoot2116]

@@grmpEqweer I didn’t. I was too panicked at the time to take down badge numbers and such, and really didn’t want to risk being targeted worse.

[@apestogetherstrong341]

America where cops can threaten children is free and democratic while DPRK where police's role is extremely reduced and officers have a strict discipline & policy to not disturb civilians is totalitarian and evil regime

[@DokiDokiDiscourse]

"comply or die" "why did the mean social media companies ban us for breaking terms of service?"

[@eoghan.5003]

It's shocking that "if you value your life - comply" isn't satire.

[@naomistarlight6178]

yeah it sounds like something you'd expect an enemy alien society in a sci-fi to say on a motivational poster or something

[@karibrimacombe8710]

Plot twist: praguer u was supposed to be satire, but then people actually agreed with him

[@AGFuzzyPancake]

Folks in the comments here are focusing on this quote too much. This was part of a quote in a short description of a video that entailed a progressive activist going through use-of-force training. Each scenario simulated aggressive actors police could plausibly have to deal with. It would be hard not to go through that training and not leave with the understanding that civilians should never flee, intimidate, or otherwise resist a police officer.

[@naomistarlight6178]

@@AGFuzzyPancake "It would be hard not to go through that training and not leave with the understanding that civilians should never flee, intimidate, or otherwise resist a police officer without fear of dying." First of all, to clear up all the negatives here what you're saying is: a) IF a person goes through x training, they are likely to think b) that they have a right to shoot someone who flees from, tries to intimidate, or resists them. Well do you think that it's good that they learn that or that we should not question that certain people are armed and taught that they have the right to tell anyone else what to do or shoot them?

[@biggieb8900]

Out of context I agree it looks really bad lol. But the actual context are orders to drop the gun, drop the knife, show your hands, etc.

[@craxnor]

"civil disobedience is ok if I do it. Not when black people do it. It's very simple." -Dennis Prager and everyone he knows.

[@TheNinja94a]

"Oh, and if those black people from 3,000 years ago did it. I'm glad I'm removed from that time and can look at it in retrospect so I don't say something blatantly racist. Because it was so long ago!"

[@toade1583]

@@TheNinja94a What?

[@weirdcreature9928]

"Except Rosa Parks, because she's not around to call me out on my hypocrisy anymore so I can claim to fight for what she fought for"

[@damonhicks969]

@@weirdcreature9928well he also doesn’t care who sits where on a bus because he is a rich white man that probably has a driver take him everywhere.

[@usamiio8323]

Rosa Parks is brave because she knew that her life was on the line when she refused to give up her seat. You refusing to wear a mask and saying its the same is a spit in her face

[@username45739]

Well only to the extent that the corona measures aren't this violent. However you can certainly get tasered for not wearing a mask on some property and then resisting, and a lot of card-carrying "liberals" or "leftwingers" will cheer on.

[@thierry1026]

@@username45739 Thats because the virus is actually dangerous to other people unlike using the wrong seat in a bus.

[@username45739]

@@thierry1026 Yes, unlike their sexual puritanism (which DOES have a function as a preventive measure against physical harm incl. viruses), the racial segregation wasn't justified by anything real. However, that doesn't mean Corona is anywhere deadly enough to justify responses of that extent - or ESPECIALLY responses of the kind of extent we're talking about around the CRM; and regardless of justification, that would make such resistance actions more similar to the former.

[@minhhuyle43]

@@username45739 being open about sex education reduces the risk of diseases more effectively than puritanism.

[@jennifervalentine8955]

I love how Prager said Jim Crow was enforced in "some Southern cities", like it was a patchwork thing, and not a systemic thing throughout those states. It wasn't like Birmingham was being shitty, but if only Rosa Parks lived in the city a hundred miles away in a city that didn't enforce Jim Crow.

[@AlRoderick]

It's also rather rich that it's specifically the cities called out, as if Jim Crow wasn't enforced in the good and noble rural areas where good and noble rural people live.

[@shadowedcypher537]

2:00 He doesn't even mention Jim Crow or the serious of society encompassing laws it entailed. Instead it's just a bus law. I haven't watched the whole thing, but it seems like he's downplaying it.

[@freelance_commie]

There were just a few bad apples practicing slavery really if you look back

[@ohadgoldhagen1095]

@@freelance_commie please tell me you are joking XD

[@psycher7]

Er...Montgomery. About 90 miles south. I know that's not the point, but still.

[@xanderjcliffe-musicreviews7740]

The fact that Dennis can look at a black person being persecuted by the police, and then look at himself, and decided that he's the one who's similar to Rosa Parks is the most funny thing. We did it, guys. We found it.

[@hydrochloricacid2146]

"Fun"

[@Mish844]

Not surprising - conservatists lack self-awareness to a degree that I almost start doubting evolution

[@FreyaEinde]

Proof that conservatives will literally co-opt anything as long as it happened at least fifty years ago, rewriting the past is their M.O.

[@peterthegreat996]

Glen Beck did the same thing with the tea party bs

[@TheInfamousBertman]

Persecuted by police? Disobeying lawful orders and acting violently = being persecuted? Take your meds, dude.

[@jd_kreeper]

I am autistic and while I am mentally capable of understanding what's going on around me enough to comply, I fear that my confusion about the entire situation, and how I tend to take things very literally will get me shot.

[@azuregriffin1116]

Same, and I'm not in the USA

[@ROTMGmimighster]

@ChestBurster-In-A-Can why is that? Do you think the people that risk their lives to come to your country and the millions that wish they could are misinformed or does the US just not suit your way of life?

[@whatsittooya3799]

@@ROTMGmimighster maybe because it postures as the nation with the most freedom and yet under the surface the corruption and discrimination is so much more present than they'd ever want you to believe

[@ROTMGmimighster]

@@whatsittooya3799 More so than the countries people flee from to come to the US?

[@whatsittooya3799]

@@ROTMGmimighster some yes, some no. the issue is with pretending we're perfect and the best, when we still have a ton of issues that remain unsolved and have some new big issues that other countries don't even have. no country is perfect and especially not the US

[@Estorium]

"If you value your life, comply" WOW! Where do I start with the list of dystopian films and books that have this as their central theme. It is insanity.

[@weakvsfire]

Right, I keep thinking of every single solitary bank heist scene in a movie or tv show where the robbers are telling the folks to do what they say and nobody gets hurt.

[@spooplegeist]

This line is coming from the same people who constantly say how liberals are turning the US into 1984, but have probably never read the damn book.

[@sorellana2154]

@@spooplegeist I've never read it either, but I hate it out of spite.

[@codybarlik4524]

“If you want to survive a run in with the people that are supposed to protect and serve the community, you need to do anything and everything they ask of you, no matter if you were doing something wrong or not. If you get nervous, remember, the people with the body armor, gun, pepper spray, baton, and training are 10 times as nervous you. So just make sure you don’t do anything wrong at all. It’s that easy”

[@SheeplessNW6]

The way they talk about compliance with cops makes the latter sound like wild animals. You don't try to reason with a bear or a mountain lion.

[@klisterklister2367]

IT'S THAT EASY

[@michellejean11]

Even obeying does not ensure the safety of people of color. A few years ago a African American therapist laid down in the street with his arms and legs in the air and a cop shot him.

[@normandy2501]

@@SheeplessNW6 I agree, but I wouldn't go out of my way to poke one either, especially when there have been known attacks in the area so to speak. The last thing I want in the car with me is an "ally" that gets offend for me and runs their mouth, only to end up getting me fucked up more than them anyway. I would rather be chill and fight that in court to make some money than be on somebody's tee-shirt with a hash tag and prayers like it's supposed to matter to me in the ground.

[@andrewwestfall65]

@@normandy2501 You do know that cops aren't actually wild animals? Also that they don't always care if you comply or not, and that they'll say you aren't compiling even when you are?

[@MrCG35]

You can tell that Dennis Prager had to fight an internal battle that day. "Do I...do I actually have to support...Rosa Parks? I...I don't think I have the strength to do it."

[@ryanzerda]

Am I the only one who just finds the idea of "We need to punish homeless people" just, inherently disgusting? Even if they did end up homeless because of their own fuck ups and life choices (big "if" there I know), why would you think the solution to that is "Yes, lets punish the person with no home, no money and no food, that's a good idea, that'll stop them"?

[@RyanTosh]

They're committing the "crime" of making the city look ugly. I don't think conservatives have the empathy to consider them anything but lawn decorations

[@PhotonBeast]

I think at that point, to them, the individual transitions from a person that needs to be stopped for the potential crime of homelessness to a thing that has committed the crime of homeless and thus deserving of punishment so that others do not do the same. That the individual at that point is no longer a person but a mere effigy to be burnt. It's not about equity and justice and prevention and helping people after the fact eg helping the homeless and addressing factors that might cause homelessness; it's about punishment and human sacrifice of the homeless to save the rest. Framed through the hierarchy lens, the person has dropped down on at least one level and thus is no longer worthy of stature or consideration.

[@hazukichanx408]

The reasons for this attitude among conservatives, I think, are two: 1. They want someone they can point to and say "Bad! Hiss, boo! These people suck! I'm so much better than them, don't look too closely at who I am or what I do, just look how terrible and dirty and bad they are!" 2. They benefit from the fact that people in terrible jobs under terrible bosses will see a homeless person in the street and think "If I quit and can't find something else soon enough, that'll be me. Better not risk it." The highly visible, maligned, impoverished people serve the wealthy as a warning to keep the overworked and underprivileged workers in check.

[@Spood6]

Shaun hasn't changed his picture since Halloween, and in less than a month, he won't have to worry about it again. Cheeky skull

[@marciamakesmusic]

Month and a half is when October starts

[@saturationstation1446]

fall is the best season.

[@ulture]

@@marciamakesmusic why are you trying to shorten the spooky season? End the War on Halloween!

[@teathomass]

@@ulture now we’re not allowed to say “Happy Halloween” or “Spooktober” it’s, “Happy Fall Season” next they’ll take the little ghosts and skulls off coffee cups! Just horrible

[@dylanintefilin]

it's always spooky time when your channel is dedicated to talking about prager u and transphobes and stuff

[@soggybogwitch]

"If a cop gives you a lawful command..." And there's the issue. 1.) Most individuals won't know a lawful command when they hear one. If an officer demands that I do something, I'm not wracking my brain to figure out if it's lawful. I'm first trying to figure what will happen if I don't comply. And secondly, I'm wondering if it makes any rational sense. 2.) Just because it's lawful, it doesn't follow that the command is rational or just. If it suddenly became legal tomorrow for an officer to raid my house, it doesn't make it morally okay for them to do

[@silversheep7369]

It'd be nice if citizens were taught how to practice their own laws in school

[@mad6andchili]

3) the lawfulness of the command is not necessarily a deterrent to harm. Not complying with an unlawlawful command is just as dangerous as not complying with a lawful one.

[@redbuck1385]

​@silversheep7369 it'd be nice if cops were actually required to know the laws they enforce.

[@dragonborn3609]

Homeless person gets arrested for existing. Dennis Prager: It's just besides a poor person will probably rob someone anyway. Cop pulls Dennis Prager over for speeding Dennis Prager: THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN 1984!

[@vylbird8014]

Prager has already made a video on the homeless situation. It's about as dehumanising as you would expect, speaking of the homeless much as one might discuss city rats and suggesting they only exist because cities provide sheltered sleeping areas and unsecured garbage cans.

[@TheChiconspiracy]

@@vylbird8014 Yeah, basically we just have to encourage them to "pull those bootstraps", even as their shoes are rotting off their feet.

[@vylbird8014]

@@TheChiconspiracy This is Prager though, so 'encourage' means 'threaten with starvation or death by hypothermia.' The homeless are sure to find productive employment if given sufficient incentive.

[@AK-jm1sc]

@@vylbird8014 How to create a crime epidemic 101. He thinks human nature will just... accept starvation and death as an option? No, once the hunger really kicks in, that's when robberies/assaults/kidnapping/drugs, whatever ways people can make money increase. Of course, maybe that's the point, force the desperate into crime, increase police funding so you can lock them up, and now you have access to a constant supply of slave-labor through private prisons. No one will feel safe on the streets, but once again private businesses will make a nice profit.

[@50733Blabla1337]

@@AK-jm1sc I mean its so blatantly obvious that they want struggle so people have to work in ANY condition.

[@Irondrone4]

YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY. YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS TO COMPLY. YOU HAVE 5 SECONDS TO COMPLY. I AM NOW AUTHORIZED TO USE LETHAL FORCE. *Proceeds to utterly obliterate a man who is complying* - RoboCop (1987)

[@ShadowDragon1848]

I love it, when Prager talks about Rosa Parks noble cause, cause we know what his stand would be at that time about this topic. The simple thing that you have in Pragers mind the only two options to obey or die, in a modern civilized state says everything.

[@elliotcrossan6290]

Honestly surprised that 2021 PragerU are in favour of Rosa Parks 😂

[@ShadowDragon1848]

@@elliotcrossan6290 It would even for Prager to dumb to openly be against the civil rights. Especially with their narrativ after Civil rights era everything is fine.

[@floreroafloreril1458]

I find it hilarious that PragerU and similar ppl see themselves as brave rebels, revolting aganist a dystopian system, when they are just not wearing a damn face mask. Even when disobeying the law conservatives are too scared to even touch the status quo.

[@theasianboy315]

@@floreroafloreril1458 Actually, they want to back to the tribalism. They said that they loves civil obedience. But protested about the necessity of face masks. They said there is time where you don't have to obey the laws. But secretly condemned anyone who are critical to the cops and teach parents to don't explain the reason behind parent's prohibitions to their kids. They said you are free to believe what you want. But they wants atheists to teach their children more about God (???). They said freedom is important. But they also said that obedient children are happy children. It's like PragerU want freedom in economics and state-level, but they love dictatorship in family or local community. They forgot that family are the smallest social organization in the society. That's hypocrisy. Typical conservatard, bigger mouth than brain

[@ThePanMan11]

@@elliotcrossan6290 the whole Rosa Parks thing is just a ploy by white people. They'd much rather focus on a lady that merely couldn't ride on the bus like a normal person. If they didn't have that to point to they'd have to look at any of the numerous horrors that happened to other black people

[@scottsbarbarossalogic3665]

A step by step guide to not being killed in a slasher movie: Step 1: Do not get caught by the slasher That's it. There are no more steps

[@raphaelmt1706]

A step by step guide to survive a police encounter: Step 1: Don't be black That's it. There are no more steps

[@IllBeBack755]

Underrated comment. Lol

[@FTZPLTC]

I mean, it's kinda their fault for even being in a slasher movie. What were they doing there? Seems suspicious really. Maybe they were the slasher? Maybe the so-called "slasher" who killed them was just trying to protect himself. Maybe we should give him a lucrative book deal.

[@joannamyers1268]

If you get killed by the slasher, it's basically your own fault. I mean, why would you live in an area with a slasher when you could just sell your home and move?

[@sarahgent2674]

@@joannamyers1268 just one small problem. Sell their houses to who, Joanna? Fucking Michael Myers?!

[@corwin32]

Nobly not wearing a mask; selfishly and recklessly endangering other people. Truly a scion of heroic lineage.

[@anmolt3840051]

Rosa Parks, MLK, Nelson Mandela and Gandhi would be proud of him

[@Capius1272]

Endangering, who? "Vaccinated people"? That's a Double Standard. Enjoy your Weekend.

[@Bramble20322]

@@Capius1272 Found the bot. You realize some people cant get vaccinated, right? And that dumbass anti vaxxers end up clogging hospitals, leading to people dying from other health issues? If you dont want to use a mask or get vaccinated, your right to health care due to covid reasons should just get revoked, simple as that. Stick to your guns, bud.

[@anmolt3840051]

@@Capius1272 endangering other non vaccinated and immunocompromised people.

[@aaronbono4688]

But he's a privileged little white guy and he's going through a tiny bit of discomfort, it's so difficult for these conservative snowflakes. The tyranny!

[@reaperz5677]

For fucks sake, a line like "If you value your life - comply" sounds like a line that'd be said by someone in Wolfenstein: The New Order. It's dystopian af.

[@PH0B0PH1L1A]

i was thinking half life 2 myself but that's also a really good example

[@sycastells1212]

The "just comply" idea is also really stupid when you take into account all the people who DID comply and were killed anyway.

[@mylittledashie7419]

Shh, we don't talk about those times. Police brutality is literally 100% caused by violent non-compliance. Simple answers only.

[@ItsXer]

True but complying is the easiest and safest course of action

[@sycastells1212]

@@ItsXer You can't assume that. It depends entirely on what the order is and the ability of the person to comply. Every situation is different.

[@vaiyt]

don't cross the line* *police draw the line wherever they want, incl. behind you

[@Abyzz_Knight]

@@ItsXer in other words comply in hopes that the ones that are supposed to serve and protect don't decide to just execute you on the spot. Sounds like maybe something that needs to be addresed, when civilians have to fear being murdered by people that are supposed to serve and protect them maybe your government have totalitarian tendencies that need to be address.

[@Crumbledink]

"If you value your life, comply. It's that simple." Jesus Christ that's the most evil shit I've ever heard.

[@roachofdoom1234]

And a great way of showing people how not authoritarian you are

[@aturchomicz821]

Actually made me cry, wtf

[@HC-qc5rp]

You have 15 seconds to comply

[@ThePanMan11]

@@HC-qc5rp but only if you're white. Black people het negative 5 seconds.

[@dansmid0142]

It's awful but it's a result of the amount of guns you have in the US, police officers don't know if a slight movement could mean taking a 22. round to their face, and they get worried. They need much deeper training but you also need gun control. Gun control is the issue. When I'm arrested in the UK, the worst I'll get is tasered (or maybe a beating from an insane supercop wanabe), but I don't have to fear for my life. Attack gun laws, not the police, because you'd act similarly in their shoes.

[@SwimmingInSunlight]

As an outsider, hearing about the whole police force with their tactics is terrifying, and the thought of regular people carrying firearms around is terrifying. In Finland every bullet fired by an officer is logged and causes a pile of paperwork. It was big headline that few years back police actually had to shoot a domestic terrorist (in the leg) after he stabbed some people and was on the run.

[@Berniebud]

I can tell you that very few people carry guns here, regular or not. The fear that you have to worry about everyone you meet having a gun and that they will shoot you with it is irrational.

[@zhitchcresttail3387]

@@Berniebud as a person who lives on the west coast, I have to majorly disagree with you if you're talking about America. Like 70% of customers I deal with open-carry

[@Crispman_777]

@@zhitchcresttail3387 I would assume it varies with location.

[@margotpreston]

@@jelly.4125 Yeah, it's beyond fucked.

[@lukelyon1781]

@@jelly.4125 sounds fairly Kafka-Esque and Orwellian.

[@theoneandonlygrod]

"Just do what we say and we won't hurt you" is the mantra of the hostage-taker, not the civil servant.

[@cadejust6777]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaW2ooSthKeBpdlp

[@borbalbuddy]

Cops are not civil servants.

[@BlackSteelKeyChain]

The level of irony for conservatives who are so used to saying how everything is “George Orwellian” to then unironically use the most accurately Orwellian phrase “If you value your life comply”

[@FrancisR420]

And the double think is insane level

[@joriankell1983]

Something Prager says = every conservative ever

[@Shadewaltz]

@@joriankell1983 You haven't paid very much attention to anything, have you?

[@bahamallama9197]

@@joriankell1983 I usually see them repeat the pop lines like everyone else. Have you seen some dissent?

[@joriankell1983]

@@bahamallama9197 both sides are filled with mindless ideolouges that parrot talking points. But at least the right can somewhat tolerate dissenting opinions in certain subjects. The left cannot at all.

[@Occam31]

“If Candice were being consistent with her beliefs…” Lol

[@jd_kreeper]

My favorite example of that is when she talks about how "the left is turning men into women and women into men" as HER job.

[@abdulmasaiev9024]

I mean, she is. Her beliefs being summed up by the quote at the very end.

[@bigwitt187]

@Solving Humanity Of course there isn't, because their only ideology involves staying in power. Anything else they claim is just window dressing.

[@chrissaldana9183]

There's a turn-of-phrase I've seen used that really applies well to this kind of double standard: "Rules for thee, not for me."

[@FaeQueenCory]

I agree. That sounds about ⚪ to me.

[@corpsehandler5321]

ope, accidentally repeated your comment

[@Rawnblade13]

Its the conservative motto.

[@eelvis1674]

Can we just take a second to appreciate how both hilarious and wildly offensive Pragers choice to compare his refusal to wear a mask, to Rosa Parks and political dissidents in Nazi Germany.

[@MahsaKaerra]

Candace Owens' interpretation of "the law" and on how the police should act in relation to it seems very transactional. It is as if "back the blue" is some kind of currency, where a person can earn points with their pro-police activism and trade it in for special considerations later on. "Law" in this sense is the same as it was in the medieval period.

[@iamjustkiwi]

Same reason why a lot of conservatives have those fucking blue lives flags or donate to the sheriffs office. They think that if they get on the good side of authority they get to be exceptions. Unfortunately it turns out they are often correct. No one should have to feel any way towards police any more so than anyone working other jobs. Would they suck up to fast food workers or factory workers? Fuck no, they see no gain in it.

[@thomaskole9881]

So fucking ironic how when the Trumptards stormed the Capitol on January 6th, they were lambasting and eventually brutalizing Capitol Police for trying to oppose them, while you just know that those same Trump supporters were all about ''Back the Blue'' during the BLM protests. Exactly what James said; they think that by getting on authority's supposed good side they get to be exceptions.

[@BordrKing]

And she refuses to acknowledge that if she ever has a run in with the police she will, in an instant, lose whatever points she thinks she earned when they treat her like any other black woman.

[@juliankirby9880]

@@iamjustkiwi or why people donate to the Police unions for the little liscence plate sticker so cops might give them preferential treatment.

[@AK-jm1sc]

Yeah, the way she talks about them is as if they're the damn mafia. "Hey I've put in a good word for you, now how about you back up me and my buddies eh? A little favor now and again... what do you say?"

[@Thundawich]

'How you react can be a matter of life or death' But... why? Why are you ok with the police in your country having the reputation that defying them will mean your death? That is the kind of image we think of whenever we discuss the authorities in heavily authoritarian states.

[@samrosario5108]

Because certain people want the police to attack and kill other certain types of people, and thus are okay with the police, they like authoritarianism so long as they get to be a part of the authority.

[@Yingxera]

Unironically and literally Orwellian

[@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095]

It isn‘t just the reputation, why the actual fuck are they allowed to shoot people dead?

[@Madhatter1781]

Dennis Prager should keep Rosa Park's name out of his damn mouth

[@stbananastein]

It's small, but revelatory, that when Dennis Prager is talking about outdoor mask mandates (around 1:40), he says 'when people...are taking a walk with their wives,' implying that when he says 'people,' he means straight men (I could jokingly say he's also talking about lesbians)

[@vincentheartland2088]

Glad I wasn’t the only one to notice this. Really jumped out at me!

[@nefylia4037]

And also backhandedly not counting wives as people

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

What is wrong with that? He wasn't talking in a robotic formal manner. He wants to use the example of married men, he'll use it.

[@stbananastein]

@@ibrahimihsan2090 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKWYon15Zt2EbqMsi=G_b65q4gbtr9RINX

[@rickthebas]

I think the point is that in general it's not a problem to use men as an example for people, BUT when it's someone like Prager who says it, it really makes you wonder: when people are walking with their wives is a pretty ugly sentence because you may as well have just said walking with their dogs and it would've been the same. Just imagine if he had said "when people are walking with their husbands". It surely would've sounded "strange" to me, since I'm used to hearing people speak as though men are the default person and women are others

[@mahrinui18]

"If you value your life, comply" --literally the Borg

[@andrejaeckle9828]

Literally ED-209. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5THcnWtjq-kodU

[@Cellinator]

Yeah for me the word “comply” is inextricably associated with the Borg

[@rickyjohnson7212]

And they’ll claim they value freedom

[@DanzelGlovington]

@ChestBurster-In-A-Can robocop fighting against the Borg would be a dope crossover

[@amandathompson8074]

As I get older and witness more things, the more jaded I become about politics. Especially with how people are reacting to a global pandemic, I'm becoming more convinced that conservative viewpoints require a considerable lack of basic empathy for fellow human beings. You unfortunately hit the nail on the head though: they only consider the system as just when it caters to their wishes and restricts the "others" they find distasteful. I will never be able to understand why they so easily accept that certain people inherently deserve less than others.

[@manuelmateo3392]

You don't truly care.

[@mr.x2567]

@@manuelmateo3392 lol, obvious troll

[@cadethumann8605]

I'm surprised it took you this long to be jaded about politics. It took me only some time to go from a naive "everyone is doing their best working together to do the right thing" to jaded "politics is like a really bad novel, only that we are living in it". Although I do admit I havr become jaded with certain things. I recently went from cautiously optimistic about Biden to despising him with how he handled the withdrawal from Afghanistan (I know we were leaving anyway, but leaving so many people and equipment behind? He is not much better than Trump. In fact, he may be worse). Screw these two parties. I'm thinking of either not voting between two evils or vite independently. Sorry for my tirade. I just wanted to vent out.

[@A2forty]

It is the nature of human beings to not care about the other. No human being us immune to this and we all define some group as the other.

[@cadethumann8605]

@@A2forty I don't know if I take that as an absolute. Many human beings value all people, enemies included. Like for me, as much as I wish to not give a damn about the people in Afghanistan, I feel anxiety about their wellbeing with the Taliban taking over.

[@wesleywyndam-pryce5305]

couldn't help but notice Dennis say rosa parks was noble to immediately stumble on saying the evil of segregation and then immediately downplay segregation by saying "in some southern cities" that SOME is doing a lot of fucking lifting ain't it.

[@nathanh5448]

Exactly my thoughts, the moment he said "sOmE", conservatives will do whatever they can to make it not sound bad (probably so then they can bring it back).

[@jcnot9712]

This is why I’ll never buy into the “dominance hierarchy” bs Jordan Peterson fans try to parrot. It’s just a social construct for people to dunk on those they view below them, not the meritocracy they want to pretend it is.

[@theasianboy315]

The Conservatards surely full of hypocrites. They are slaves of their own greed and ignorance. And this came from a centrist.

[@RecklessFables]

I think a lot of human development is our attempts to overcome the fundamental truths of our natures and grow as a species. The notion of dominance hierarchies is likely true, but that doesn't make it the ideal, which is the point those folks are missing.

[@maurokoller3910]

Depends on what you mean by "dominance".

[@Priority76]

You know what else is a social construct? - "Cheese". Just sayin'.

[@knavishknight]

@@dansmid0142 is one of "his (admittedly sometimes stupid) supporters"

[@redwulf1943]

Disobedience is not a reason to kill someone.

[@grmpEqweer]

Exactly.

[@saturationstation1446]

our founding myth is supposed to be about disobeying tyranny lol. it never worked like that in reality. but thats the myth we are taught in schools

[@joriankell1983]

No, but when a suspect begins fighting and reaches for a weapon, the hell is a cop supposed to do?

[@joriankell1983]

@Mac mcskullface more white people per capita are shot and killed by cops every year in the US, but sure, cry about minorities and their allergy to civil behavior

[@joriankell1983]

@Mac mcskullface what level of delusion are you on?

[@ouijacorn]

"If somebody resists, you don't just take them into custody, you kick their ass and take them into custody." - An ex-cop I have the misfortune of overhearing on a daily basis.

[@izzylee64]

That quote is basically just the GTA V police motto, "Obey and Survive"

[@Refwah]

It's very interesting how when it's a 'made at home because of covid' video, one that can't be as cleanly edited and put together, Dennis Prager isn't exactly the eloquent and self confident speaker that he presents himself as.

[@Graknorke]

I think the fireside videos are usually that way, they're long, lightly edited, and only loosely scripted

[@rolfs2165]

@@Graknorke I've seen a few others of his fireside videos discussed before, and in none of them did he stutter and bumble his way through like that one.

[@SamNeedsCoffee]

Re: Dinesh D'souza. It is extremely hard for an individual to make illegal campaign contributions. The FEC makes the campaign committee responsible for excessive contributions. For an individual to run afoul of the law, they have to make straw contribution (giving the money to a third party) which demonstrates they understand the law and that they are violating it.

[@grmpEqweer]

Ohhh. I see.

[@GretgorPooper]

That Frank Wilhoit quote makes perfect sense within the context of Brazil, where I live. There is a singificant portion of the population that lives in slums and shanty towns, and they fear the law, whereas people who live in upper class neighborhoods feel safe thanks to it.

[@oliverp3545]

Aren't buddies of Bolsonaro known to get away with murder due to their connections to him?

[@GretgorPooper]

@@oliverp3545 yes they are.

[@BlueBoboDoo100]

"Laws are made to punish criminals! I'm not a criminal, so if a law is punishing me it must be wrong!" This line of thinking has been used to justify the worst actions possible and sweep them under the rug, while still making them feel righteous.

[@euansmith3699]

ED209, Robocop, "You have 20 seconds to comply!" 💥🤖💥 The thing about complying with police instructions kind of breaks down when three or four power-crazed muppets are screaming contradictory instructions at you.

[@akizeta]

Not to mention when they yell at you to stop resisting while they beat you, and all you're doing is curling up in a ball and crying. What is "compliance" supposed to be in this situation?

[@euansmith3699]

@@akizeta Or while they are tasering the object of their torment, and claiming that the writhing "perp" was then resisting arrest.

[@TheProGiraffe]

Thats exactly what I thought of as well

[@chriss780]

@@akizeta they say you're body seizing when you're punched full force in the face is resisting arrest they are literally trained to shout "stop resisting while beating someone to suggest to passer bys and witnesses they were resisting if they can't see clearly whats going on

[@suddenllybah]

Cop 1: Don't move Cop 2: Put your hands up. person they are interacting with: hope complying with one order doesn't violate the other.

[@Yiab]

Shaun, I have no idea how you made this video without mentioning the religious underpinnings of American conservative ideas of law. They essentially believe that God makes the laws and humans do not. In other words when they talk about "the law" they are not referring to the laws put into place by legislators, they are referring to some nebulous ideal that they think of as "God's law".

[@rcr257]

"God says homeless people must be treated like vermin, his words not mine"

[@masterxehanort3]

@@rcr257 god literally said the exact oppossite on multiple occasions So that is conservative's words, not His

[@rcr257]

@@masterxehanort3yeah I know, it was sarcastic

[@eoghan.5003]

"if you value your life - comply" reminds of the 1984 quote: "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-for ever." It's cartoonishly authoritarian.

[@ninototo1]

Sadly this is all too real

[@MathasiaJ]

"This is LITERALLY 1984" people barely remember reading 1984 in 11th year schooling lol

[@bruhmoment1835]

@@MathasiaJ try not to disguise your stupidity with your delusions of adequacy. Some people actually understand what they read

[@MathasiaJ]

@@bruhmoment1835 not saying they don't, I'm just saying that the majority of the people shouting "this is literally 1984" are people who likely don't remember or understand the book, given how incorrectly they try and apply the phrase. The book itself is kind of bad tbh, Orwell didn't understand what he was trying to criticize with it.

[@littlemoth4956]

@@MathasiaJ You kinda just made a bunch of pointless claims then refused to explain any of them

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

"getting tough on homelessness is about enforcing the hierarchy" - you hit it bang on

[@superdriver]

remember to watch at 2x speed as shaun originally would've

[@elrandohorse]

He's posted 2 videos at once; so 4x the speed?

[@baaaldur]

i actually do watch shaun's videos sped up lol

[@elliotcrossan6290]

His voice is less relaxing that way

[@unblorbosyourshows9635]

@@elrandohorse I think the intended way of watching is to watch both of them at the same time at 2x speed

[@benisser]

He's right, I watch all yt videos at that speed, saves me enormous amounts of time.

[@icantthinkofaname1009]

2:27 I've seen the YTP that references this so many times that it feels weird not hearing "when a cop gives you a lawful command, say 'no.'"

[@strangething77]

Link?

[@justyouraveragememester5037]

@SadShyAlienOutcast what happens when you push a baby underwater?

[@kirabad-artist6532]

@@justyouraveragememester5037 The baby fucking dies

[@Zane_Doe]

"...Prager U's source here contains the exact opposite claim that they make in their video." If I had a dollar for every time I heard that.

[@johnym838]

"If you value your life - comply" from the same guys who say that vaccines are against freedom

[@Estorium]

As a white South African watching these things unfold from afar, I cannot help but think of the despicable cruelties imposed on non-white South Africans during the apartheid regime. There seems to be little to distinguish a number of those atrocities of pre-apartheid in South Africa with the ones inflected on African Americans today. My heart goes out to these people.

[@grahameyeo]

Love how Prager u says "the cop is being lawgul so comply" when police frequently break the law during arrests

[@malchickoleander]

The fact that the phrase "Obey it, even if you disagree. It can be a matter of life or death." was said, with absolutely ZERO concern is astonishing. As if that doesn't sound horrifying and tyrranical??? That sounds like a line in a speech of a murder thriller movie, christ. Terrifying stuff said with a disgusting level of pride.

[@CaitieLou]

Dennis Prager: "Always obey the police." Also Dennis Prager: "I will refuse to obey laws I find absurd." Police: "Wear a mask." Dennis Prager: *surprised pikachu face*

[@joshwhite5730]

I would pay 1,000$ to see that

[@Saibellus]

In my experience, the fascinating hypocrisy of conservatives is easily explained proximally by asking "which narrative will make conservatives victims and progressives aggressors?" in the grander scheme it gets more murky, but that immediate short term? without fail, victim complex reigns supreme.

[@undoreality2802]

That same argument can be made about anyone.

[@ck58npj72]

"Think of the children"

[@Ryodraco]

@@undoreality2802 indeed, it's not a conservative thing so much as a human thing.

[@Abyzz_Knight]

Says a lot about y'all and/or the people you associate if you think everyone acts like this

[@Ryodraco]

@@Abyzz_Knight it's a human compulsion to make yourself a victim and others aggressors, since being introspective can be painful and difficult and can require a fair amount of humility. It's much easier to blame other people. Of course nobody is saying everyone acts like this all the time, and controlling it is a great thing to develop in yourself, but no single group of people is exempt from this failing.

[@ClaudiaNW]

This is indeed a good analysis. As you say, PragerU's editorial line *looks* incoherent at first blush, but actually isn't - once we understand that they see "the law" not as a set of norms but as a means of enforcing a social hierarchy, with the privileged class at the top and the underclass at the bottom.

[@username45739]

The Kyle Rittenhouse case, as one example, clearly shows that the same applies to "the left": self-defending youths should get prison if they were part of the other team and the ones they fended off with a gun were lumpenproles from "our" team. Why were the Jan6ers called "insurrectionists"? Because "revolution" is the word the left is currently using for their own plans lol; so if those hurt cops, then cops are good and that's bad; and if cops hurt or arrest those rightwingers (anyone deemed to be of "that team" - not necessarily confirmed as carrying any evil views; which are distributed across the political spectrum anyway, of course), then that's good, go cops; and we've decided now that the left is pro-corona-measures, so that's also good and the other guys who oppose that are rightwing and bad. However if the cops go against anyone who's "left", or protected by the left, then suddenly it's tyranny and cops are bad, defund them etc. Same incoherent hypocrisy, literal mirror images. The people here pretending as if only "the conservatives" are tribalist hypocrites with incoherent views, need to snap out lol

[@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095]

It‘s just like ANCIENT MOTHERFLURKING ROME

[@TripleGia]

It's honestly impressive how conservatives have chosen the hill of "but I don't wanna wear the little cloth over my mouth and nose!" to die on.

[@naomistarlight6178]

Literally... They made the problem of the elderly being more susceptible to the disease worse by getting a lot of those same elderly to go maskless... :(

[@Ryodraco]

The generalizing in these comments is rather troubling too though. I know many conservatives that have little issue wearing face masks where it is asked of them.

[@arturoaguilar6002]

@@Ryodraco And then there are popular conservative celebrities that not only double down on not wearing a mask; but also tell their public to say firmly to people on the street "Please take off your mask. You're making me uncomfortable!" and to report parents who put mask on their children to the police as "child abusers".

[@Ryodraco]

@@arturoaguilar6002 evidently not popular enough for me to know of them saying such things, though I don't pay much attention to celebrities in general.

[@blacklightredlight2945]

@@Ryodraco And I know many that bitch and whine about them all the time. It's not generalization, it's recognition.

[@tradrudeboy]

David Clarke (the guy with the terrible goatee) was personally responsible for the death of several people in his custodywhen he was Sheriff of Milwaukee County. He was ousted largely because of it, and is afraid to step foot back in the county due to the level of protest he receives.

[@guibredacalixto9086]

the conservative motto "it's alright when we do it"

[@Mish844]

"the rules are for thee, not for me", or "there must be a group which law binds but doesn't protect and a group that law protects but doesn't bind"

[@FaeQueenCory]

It's not really "conservative", it's just ⚪ plain and simple.

[@avicarnonbagel279]

@@FaeQueenCory Thats the pattern, but there are plenty of POC conservatives that make the same stupid points. See Candice Owens and Dinesh D'Souza as mentioned in the video.

[@joriankell1983]

Lol, no it isn't. Prager is a fake conservative, controlled opposition. He's a shill for Israel

[@Shadewaltz]

@@joriankell1983 Then why are there hundreds of cases where the exact same things are espoused by all sorts of conservatives?

[@maxmaccarthy1546]

Two uploads at once? My god, Shaun, you spoil us.

[@Lawnie]

"Trump isn't hurting the right people!" something something Leopards Eating People's Faces Party

[@crazycurious9771]

"He's not hurting the people who he should be hurting!" "I didn't think the Leopards Eating Peoples' Faces Party would eat MY face!"

[@anfalassaqa-5]

The notification i got was probably the most exciting thing to happen to me all week

[@rashid8646]

Ngl thats a sad week

[@Em-sf6sr]

Then we got another one!

[@paein9642]

@dougbound it’s been a sad decade

[@gopalkrishnan9732]

Im sorry, I hope things improve.

[@haroldgodwinson1531]

Now there are two of them

[@kingbubbles9461]

Hey, your channel helped in preventing me from becoming radicalized a few years ago when I was in my contrarian phase. Thank you for making these videos as it does make a difference

[@PattySkeet]

"Now we could just say that Dennis Prager is a hypocrite" yes, we should do that edit-ive never seen this channel before but this was in my recommended. great video. easy sub.

[@corncake4677]

They want to deny the real dystopia while imagining themselves as the underdog heros of their own personal dystopia

[@joriankell1983]

That's because they're controlled opposition

[@eratinuwu1952]

Nice Vi pfp

[@corncake4677]

@@eratinuwu1952 best bee

[@SavageGreywolf]

I wonder how Candace Owens would have felt about 'just obeying the law to keep from being separated from your family' if she lived in 1859.

[@onlyoddity]

I had a conversation with a guy on the poor and homeless in the nuclear energy video, and his solution was "don't be poor. I did it, so can they." We're not dealing with geniuses, just contagious stupidity

[@Keijo_]

"It could be a matter of life and death" is a true statement when it comes to the police, but somehow PragerU has avoided contemplating wether it makes any sense for that to be the case.

[@hopsonkim4952]

Always impressed by the level of self control required for Shaun to not just react to each sentence in the PU video with “oh fuck off,” as I do.

[@alwayssonnie]

"If you value your life - comply" Yeah because I'm sure a man clearly experiencing a mental breakdown is in the right mind set to comply.

[@IagoSB__0.0]

When the officer told the kid to get out of the middle of street, did he comply? No. And so the officer had a legitimate cause to shoot him? Because he did not get out of the middle of the street? What kind of escalation of force is this?

[@unclejoeoakland]

You have the proposition backwards. Read it like this- if you have decided that the police are simply never at fault in these incidents we see in the news, is it a fault if they kill someone for the most trivial offense? The answer is No, because the proposition is that the police are never at fault.

[@Abyzz_Knight]

@@unclejoeoakland basically take the same stance that these conservatives would take for the Christian God "can do no wrong"

[@Censeo]

I mean he could get hit by a car, so they had to shoot him for his own safety

[@Abyzz_Knight]

@@Censeo "it was then that I realuzed that the child may be hit by a car...so anyway I started blasting"

[@katfoster845]

I mean what do you expect the police to do? Ask him again? Or use a non violent restraint technique to remove him from the middle of the street? Or even reason with him? Insanity...

[@amovy031]

Whenever the skull man says "There's a couple of important points to be made here" you know it's about to get good

[@MethuselahWinter]

Even if you’re a criminal, you still have the right to due process. They police do not get to be executioner. If someone is genuinely threatening the life of an officer or others, then firstly that officer should be trained in de-escalation techniques, and only if those fail should lethal for be acceptable, as an absolute last resort. But we know the police are far to corrupt and arrogant to do such things. As far as homelessness, it would cost us less to house homeless people that to build “anti-homeless” architecture. They want homeless people to die. Point blank. They want those who can’t afford to live without community support to work themselves to death or die from exposer/starvation/dehydration, if they can’t work themselves to death. I find such cruelty ironic, because conservatives I grew up with used to brag about being willing to give the shirt off their back to anyone in need. But it turns out they only meant that in the sense they’d donate to a white wealthy church to feel good about themselves, but they’d ignore soup kitchens and shelters, and ignore black and brown people on the streets. They like charity because it feels good to hand crumbs to organizations they like or are apart of their religious group, but won’t actually go anything productive to help those in need, even voting against things that would help those in need.

[@Bacony_Cakes]

US Police tactics: - Reverse SWAT van into the front of the wrong house at top speed - Flashbang baby - Shoot the brown guy "on accident" - Leave - Say the brown guy was carrying a gun when it was actually an XBOX controller - Have nothing done about this

[@grmpEqweer]

They use no-knock raids...IMO something that should almost never be done.

[@oliverp3545]

Don't forget butcher any animal on sight.