Shaving Soap Tins - A Jank & Inelegant Solution for Packaging Shaving Soaps

[@IAMCDB]

Folks - Keep in mind this video is meant to light in spirit and not super serious. Although I don’t like tins for my use case, I respect your decision to use or purchase whatever you like. I ask for the same courtesy when it comes to my purchasing decisions and opinions. In terms of environmental concerns, I encourage you to research pollution associated with mining, metal production, smelting, etc. Even the recycling process for both metals and plastics produces pollutants. Please keep in mind there are fiscal considerations involved with the use of metals or plastics. Brian from Signature Soaps told me UK artisans will be facing escalating costs as a result of using certain types of plastics in the near future. This is something to be consider. As mentioned in the video, let’s all try to be better people and ensure we’re not disposing of materials improperly. Additionally, when you’re out and about and see litter, pick it up and dispose of it properly and recycle when applicable.

[@unclelshaves]

PS: a better environmental way to distribute soaps would be go back to Old school hard/firm soap pucks in cardboard boxes and paper-wrap. Then have reusable containers for keeping the soaps in, similar to what Stirling is doing with their 4.5oz refill pucks.

[@IAMCDB]

It would but sadly those things deteriorate over time or get beat up as well. In terms of presentation, they don't hold up well but it's certainly an option.

[@adamk1520]

Great points made here, especially on the need to use excess packaging to protect the tin, which is backwards logic. The other backwards logic in commerce is any product not manufactured in the U.S. uses a little thing called Diesel Fuel that pollutes the ocean. Buy USA = less pollution.

[@IAMCDB]

The tins are not for me but I respect the choice of those who use and buy them:)

[@mikeperritte]

I agree the plastic tubs are better. Tin ones might of been better if they were thicker or stronger metal to stop denting so easily. But I think they would still be acceptable to bending. Have a blessed day

[@IAMCDB]

I agree. It's tough to get a nice durable metal that won't rust. I respect the choices that others make but it's not for me:)

[@rnminster]

Love the re-purpose of The Body Shop shave cream. I have about 8 of them floating around with all sorts of small computer parts. Nice video.

[@IAMCDB]

Exactly! They can be quite useful indeed. Well done Robert!

[@buddyblankenship4186]

Sooooo, let me get this right , you like the plastic soap tubs better than the tin ones /lol , gotta agree pal . Very good points brought up about the pollution to make tin . Hope you have a great upcoming weekend Chris !

[@IAMCDB]

Hahah, yes sir. I hope you have a great weekend as well Buddy!

[@razatheninja]

Great points Chris! I agree with you 100% . I treat all the tins with extra care. I had a tin accidentally fall once and it got a dent unfortunately…but there is one tin that I will never let go of and that’s the synergy Irish cream :)

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Raza. That's very kind of you to say regarding the Irish Cream as well. I hope you have a great day sir!

[@Matteo-sc2lz]

Great soap cris! I got the leaf razor. Today I use it!!I tell you how I found my self,with astra platinum. I use big Bruce 26mm brush and Stirling piacenza .👍🏻😎

[@IAMCDB]

Ahhhh, nice Matteo. Be careful with it and take your time. Once you get used to it, it will give great shaves:)

[@drinxs505]

Got me a Twig..LOVE IT!!doing recon for shave soaps.good vid.

[@IAMCDB]

Awesome! I'm so glad you like it sir.

[@unclelshaves]

I'm not fussed whether soap comes in tins or plastic, although I agree presentation wise most tins are not good. However, some tins are better designed than others for example the Nivea Mens Creme tins don't seem to dint easily. Repurposing plastic tubs and tins is the best idea environmentally, otherwise dispose of them properly and/or put in recycle.

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Unc. I think being responsible is the best option for sure:)

[@johnmeyer8098]

Hey Chris. I agree with all that you’ve said. One of the comments made on a previous video was that the UK has put a tax on plastic containers. I don’t know what the price difference is but it could be a determining factor.

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks John. I certainly understand how cost might be a significant factor. I certainly don't blame anyone for taking that into consideration.

[@JT-nf9tk]

Great points, Chris! I use the tubs to keep my loose change in my car. This way, I always have change whenever I need it and i keep my pockets free. Take care!

[@Vulcanrider58]

And it makes your change smell good!

[@IAMCDB]

That's not a bad idea Joe. I like this sort of repurposing:)

[@mak140208]

I appreciate every second of that video 😊 More importantly I agree with all what you said, and I love the "proof" approach you did. I think wet shavers are pretty much all hobbyists so I think appearance (presentation) is a must by design. A lot of artisans might be offended by this video (several I can think of), but I don't think you were at all unfair here 😊. Another awesome video sir 👍👍

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks sir. I tried to keep it light while also making some points. The tin argument has always been one sided and every now and then people need to speak up. Have a great day sir!

[@jasonmickelson6293]

Interesting topic for sure. Other possibilities- glass or ceramic. Think Tabac in the white glass jar or Mitchell's Wool Fat in the ceramic bowl. Or other old time classics that came in wooden bowls. But instead of expensive or exotic woods, what about bamboo?

[@IAMCDB]

Nice points sir. I have a number of those containers and they're pretty nice.

[@firecured1701]

Like the way you think Looking forward to more videos of the sort👍

[@IAMCDB]

Haha, thanks brother:)

[@firecured1701]

@@IAMCDB 💓

[@aaronrogerson604]

It's a valid argument, but I feel some folks might limit themselves from trying some really quality artisan offerings simply because of the packaging. WSP and Lather Jack both come to mind. I've flicked the WSP tins and they didn't dent like that. I wonder if they use a denser metal? Guess it doesn't really matter.

[@IAMCDB]

Fortunately there are no shortage of products. You won't really miss anything by not using a few. To be honest, there's no way to use them all regularly with amount of choice we have. Ironically, WSP was the company that put me on this path. I had purchased 4 soaps and 3 of them were banged up:) I always say I don't want scratch and dent product at retail prices:) Some folks don't care about this and this is entirely ok as well. Everyone should use the things they enjoy.

[@michaelreed649]

I am calling shenanigans. Not because i disagree, i just like the word, shenanigans!

[@IAMCDB]

It's a good word, I agree.

[@Vulcanrider58]

My only tin has finger grips in it just from me holding it, but I used to rodeo, so I think my grip level might be a little higher than normal 😃! Good points Chris...

[@IAMCDB]

Haha! That's Lee Majors level grip there.

[@TheShavingDisciple]

What events, Jay? I rode bulls for 10 years.

[@Vulcanrider58]

@@TheShavingDisciple Last thing I did was Wild Horse Race when I was stationed in Wyoming. Didn't think it was that big a deal until Ty Murray told me he thought we were crazy!

[@TheShavingDisciple]

@@Vulcanrider58 I rode a few bareback and saddle bronc, but mostly stuck to bulls. 10 years of riding, I did some occasional bull fighting on practice nights, and did cowboy poker once at a convention.

[@ewk_]

I kinda like the old school steampunk look of the two tins of Pre de Provence I just received. Chris, maybe this is the perfect opportunity for you to seek out some nice teak wood or olive wood soap bowls to replace your tins.

[@IAMCDB]

Wood is nice, although often a little pricey. I don't have a lot of tins, so I don't worry too much about them. As a general rule, I just don't buy them. I'll get one now and then but generally I avoid them:)

[@santaclaus179]

totaly agree that tin are not adecuate for shaving soaps , the best one is the container of martin de candre , made of glass, the green plastic ones of stirling are very strong ,but it should be nicer to have them transparent , such as the can of barrister and mann " dickens ", nice very high quality transparent plastic , but should not have label on the back , so we can see if the soaps is not getting humid this to avoid contamination, tabac and Mitchells woolfat have ceramic containers , also very good and clean, the metallic container of " le père lucien " is very well made , but not easy to open , so in my humble opinion glass or transparent high quality plastic are the best materials for containers, regards robert

[@IAMCDB]

Nice points Robert. I appreciate your perspective sir.

[@antonyfernandez9536]

Agree with you on this they ain’t the best, I think they do it for environmental reasons also possibly cost. One company who uses tins are ALYM only have one tin with a tiny dent and they come well packaged but do wish they used glass jars more.

[@IAMCDB]

They get the job done but I prefer a more durable container in terms of presentation:)

[@johnwallace1334]

As mentioned in some other comments, I like refill pucks when possible. However, I’ll buy a soap or cream that I like and it doesn’t matter to me what container it comes in, but you definitely made some good points. Here is my question, would it be possible to send an empty container back to an artisan and just let them refill it?? Say from companies that don’t offer stand alone pucks (PAA, Barrister and Mann, etc)?? I’m sure I’m missing something here, but I guess I’m just thinking out loud on KZbin, lol. There would be the cost of shipping, but any product you buy has to be shipped anyways. I guess the process of sterilizing the used container so the manufacturer wouldn’t containment their supply would have to be addressed. Just curious I guess.

[@IAMCDB]

If I finish a tub and want the scent again, I'll buy the refill puck for sure. I don't think many (if any) artisans offer to refill. There's a lot of time and cost implications there I imagine. Refill puck would probably be the easiest way to go:)

[@shavingwithpegleg3813]

Like I said before, the tins we have today are not our fathers tins. Our fathers tins you could drive a nail with and not ding the tin. My grandfather had several on his work bench full of nuts, bolts, nails, screws and misc stuff. But in todays world we make things thinner to keep cost down and the consumer pays the price with a less durable product. I agree tins for shave soap are a no, plastic is much better, glass/ceramic even better yet. In all honesty, even tho we make some neat things today, I prefer the way things were made 80, 90, 100 years ago. When you bought something it was a forever item not a use it until it breaks then throw it away and get a new one.

[@IAMCDB]

I can't say that I disagree with you brother. We used to make many things better, this is true. We've gotten better at some things and worse at others:)

[@jbbroman1955]

You're so funny “Hookwinked or Bamboozled”😆 - you are right though tin doesn't do well when shipped. But how about glass. I mean, it looks great, but I'm always worried I'm going to drop it when loading. I haven't yet though. Sometimes I load from the jar; it's a mood thing for me with either a soap jar or lather bowl. I know maybe I'm weird😂. All my best, ~ JB

[@IAMCDB]

I have some glass and I have to be super careful with them. I still prefer plastic but I have some glass as well. Have a great day JB!

[@mackbooker8368]

Alrighty then! Glad we got that one out the way! That was fun…best

[@IAMCDB]

Hahah, thanks Mack!

[@BartBuzz]

You should tell us how you really feel 😉 I don't have a lot of soaps...maybe a dozen or so. None of them is in a tin. Only one (Tabac) is in a glass container. But you've convinced me. I won't be buying any soaps in a tin 🙂 PS: I've never seen a plastic soap container wash up on the beach.

[@IAMCDB]

I say buy whatever you enjoy. If you want a soap in a tin, go for it:) I'm just sharing my own perspective:) I don't like tins but I don't mind at all that other people enjoy them:)

[@BartBuzz]

@@IAMCDB 🤔 To be honest I haven't seen any soaps in a tin that tempt me. I'm into PAA and Stirling when it comes to artisan soaps.

[@10floz30minutes]

@@BartBuzz One of them that does tempt me is Planet Kind Shaving Soap from Gillette. You do not always need to buy a soap packaged in plastic tub. Some of the offerings are soaps packaged just wrapped in a plastic film (like as you mentioned, Stirling Soaps).

[@IAMCDB]

@@10floz30minutes Planet kind is pretty nice. That's one of the few I bought. I like that one.

[@IAMCDB]

@@BartBuzz I don't buy them very often. Generally my rule is that I don't buy them:)

[@williamcass68]

Thanks Chris!

[@IAMCDB]

Thank you Bill!

[@williamsdavid5243]

Yes but these things are better for the environment but signature soups I find the label print smudges & you can't make out whats in the tin

[@brianhood2184]

Where did you buy the soap from David

[@IAMCDB]

I hope this doesn't happen too often. Sorry to hear about this sir.

[@olishb440]

If the environmental argument is important for the manufacturer there are some brands that use "BIO-Based plastic" containers. The Goodfellas ’smile for example, I remember you tried this brand before. Another solution is to sell the soaps only as a refill. In all cases no one wants a damaging container.

[@IAMCDB]

Good points and good options sir:)

[@kimgray3235]

I’m personally not a fan of shaving tins. I balance the soap in the tub edge when shaving and more often than not I knock it off into the ceramic tile floor. Had a ceramic shave bowl for about 20 seconds … 😬.

[@IAMCDB]

I can certainly understand this. I bump things from time to time as well:)

[@niallmc66]

I’ve broken one ceramic shave bowl already, seeing how long it takes before I drop it’s replacement! 😂

[@gravesit]

This video was hilarious! The wrapping of the tin 😂 I’ll take the plastic tubs any day.

[@IAMCDB]

Haha, thanks Tim!

[@10floz30minutes]

BUY A SOAP PACKAGED IN NEITHER! This is the choice not mentioned. If you want a firm or hard soap (or like a "puck"), some of them come just wrapped in a plastic sheet; not in plastic tub, and not in tin/metal tub. That is, make the choice when it is one of the possible ones for the desired product.

[@IAMCDB]

Good point, but then you need some sort of mechanism to protect it yourself. Again, as someone who showcases products, that wouldn't be the greatest of options. That said, many companies sell refill pucks and that's always a nice option.

[@10floz30minutes]

@@IAMCDB Easier than one might typically recognize. Food containers for delicatessen foods are a great option. Plastic low height with plastic lid. Clean it when the food stuff is finished, dry it, and you have the container to store one or more shaving soaps.

[@IAMCDB]

@@10floz30minutes Oh yes, I get your point. Keep in mind I was speaking mostly from the perspective of showcasing products.

[@brianhood2184]

Just for interest how many different recycling garbage bins do have for garbage collection?

[@IAMCDB]

The plastic, aluminum, and paper/cardboard go in separate bags or bins. It varies depending on where you are, but generally you have to separate them. I don't buy a lot of disposable plastic bottles and so forth, so I don't typically have much in the way of those.

[@brianhood2184]

That’s good

[@chrislj2890]

Well metals can be recycled almost indefinitely, whereas plastics are pretty much one and done, no matter what they say. Anyway, why not go back to glass? I just received an order from PAA and the after shave is in glass, but the soap in plastic. It could be a glass jar with a metal lid to eliminate all the plastic. At least with glass the product can really last, like all of the vintage colognes on eBay. And to really cut down use the unscented soap and scent oils from Hendrix Classics & Co. I ordered a sample pack from them that has three scented soaps, one unscented and three oils for only $7.00 including the shipping. I don't believe you mentioned that in your review.

[@IAMCDB]

Good points. I just touched on it briefly, as the argument is often very one sided, as if there's no polluting as a result of using metals. That said, I have no issue with folks who want to use tin or whatever. As the buyer I can always choose the products that are best for me. I hope you enjoy the Hendricks Products. I've really been enjoying them:)

[@mikedecherd8666]

With Crowne and Crane, I can refill my plastic container with one of their pucks. 👍

[@IAMCDB]

That's a great option, I like that!

[@thomaswilkie1168]

If my shave soap just rocked up in a box, in a plastic bag, I'd be unimpressed with the company and not purchase from them again. What ever you ship needs to be secure in the packaging and padded with something. As for tubs vs tins, I have no preference, but it would be cool if some artisans allowed you to return the tubs for reuse and offered a minor discount to incentivise recycling, much like the old glass milk bottles.

[@IAMCDB]

Nice points Thomas. I appreciate your perspective.

[@gohabs365]

What are your thoughts on "clean" coal?

[@IAMCDB]

I don't have many thoughts on it. It's probably like everything else, there's an environmental cost to be certain. There's no free lunch:) Whether you're producing energy or products, there's almost always some environmental concern.

[@RaktajinoNX-74205]

Or you could buy refill soaps like Stirling offers, Saponifio Varesino or Haslinger 😇 It's mildly amusing to be honest how much it bothers you 😂 Someone should organize a "Soaps only in tin containers" Month for all wettubers, just to rile you up haha Hope you are doing well, positive thoughts as always go to your family 🙏

[@IAMCDB]

I always say I don't want to buy scratch and dent product at retail prices. That's my general philosophy:) That said, I'm not all that bothered by it as I can make the choice not to buy tins. I'm only bothered when people make assertions about the plastic tubs that aren't always founded in reality. Also, I'm NEVER bothered when someone else likes the tins, that's entirely ok:) I hope all is well with you and your family also sir!

[@TheShavingDisciple]

Next BBS.Live theme of the week?

[@KD0LRG]

You can't fool me tins come from my beer cans I turn in for $.10 😉

[@IAMCDB]

Nice! Turn those babies in!

[@soapthing]

You could probably run over a plastic shaving soap tub with your car 🚗 and it wouldn’t hurt it much.

[@IAMCDB]

I should try this:)

[@colombianshaves9827]

I have yet to see an empty container lol.

[@IAMCDB]

It's definitely hard to find the bottom these days:)

[@richardsanchez5444]

What about glass?

[@razorblade7676]

Tins make me want to barf. If Stirling or PAA started using them I'd dump them in a heartbeat.

[@IAMCDB]

Oh man! That's strong feelings right there:)

[@razorblade7676]

@@IAMCDB Maybe I went to far. I could use my old plastic Stirling and PAA tubs if they went tin. BTW I feel a lot better Chris I can actually smell my soaps and enjoy food again. God bless.

[@IAMCDB]

@@razorblade7676 I'm glad you're feeling better, that's really good to hear!

[@TheShavingDisciple]

Stirling and PAA both used to use tins...

[@fayizd654]

Next video suggestion: rap everything you say while shaving 🤣

[@IAMCDB]

Hahah, nice!

[@TheShavingDisciple]

I agree with Fayiz. I want to see that.

[@mattilindholm1941]

😂😂😂 You rock CDB. A realy fun video to watch. 😂😂😂 Have a awesome weekend and take care my friend. 🤘😃🤘

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Matti, haha.

[@calvingreen7197]

Good afternoon…

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks Calvin, I appreciate it sir.

[@will6509]

Have you tried Osage Rub?

[@IAMCDB]

Years ago I did. I need to get some and give it another go.

[@TheShavingDisciple]

The best tins I've seen are the ones that WSP uses, as long as you aren't a tub/tin loader. They're more heavy duty than Pre de Provence or Signature. But I do have one WSP tin that's been dented.

[@IAMCDB]

Thanks G. Interestingly enough, WSP were the tins that finally pushed me over the edge. I ended up getting 3 out of 4 that were dented up and that was the final straw. That said, they are more durable than most. I probably just had bad luck:)

[@RonnieYates]

Looks like a crime scene with all those outlines on the Tin. Lol. I prefer not buying tins either.

[@IAMCDB]

Haha. It did indeed:)

[@dk.damnfineshave]

Stop this foolishness! Tins are the future of wetshaving! 😂

[@IAMCDB]

It was about 12 years ago:)

[@LordSHADY]

Tins and No Restrictors!!! Which funny enough, is the name of Junior’s new band.

[@IAMCDB]

@@LordSHADY That would be a good channel name. Jank Tins & $h^#strictors.

[@LordSHADY]

@@IAMCDB 😂🤣😂🤣 oooooooh the content!!!

[@sefontes]

Do not trust a jank as* tin!!

[@IAMCDB]

Can’t truss it:)

[@jedknouse7053]

This type of content has no positive value to me.

[@IAMCDB]

Sorry you didn't like it Jed. People often assert the virtues of using tin and often they forget about some of the negatives involved with it. It's mostly a one sided story. You can rest assured I'll always call it like I see it, even if people don't like it.

[@egonovi5651]

I just can't listen any more about F$%&*&g TINS! I'm unsubscribing for the second time.

[@IAMCDB]

Sorry to see you go sir. Wishing you many blessings.