Shawn Michaels or Bret Hart - Who Was Better?

[@royalrambler9577]

Cornette put it best. “Bret was the best at making you believe he was trying to win, while Shawn was the best at making you believe he was trying not to lose”

[@vampirascoffin870]

classic💯

[@gumdeo]

Corny nailed it.

[@dhillanchandramowli5670]

That was Al Snow, not Cornette?

[@MAriomcmahon1]

that makes no sense whatsoever

[@omgpix]

I mean it's just my reading but the latter implies more of a desperation and willingness to fight dirtier. Its a darker motivation.

[@tonyc7301]

Shawn said it best recently: "Better wrestler? Bret. Better performer? Me." Can't argue that.

[@MrTrueCaller619]

What's the difference?

[@MrMGR1986]

@@MrTrueCaller619Ring psychology(selling etc), crowd work and chosen move-set/spots VERSUS pure technical wrestling ability. Bret could work the crowd and cut a damn good promo, but Shawn was just better.

[@MrMGR1986]

@@MrTrueCaller619For example, AEW is full of excellent wrestlers from a technical standpoint. That being said a lot of them have no traditional in-ring psychology which makes for a boring spot fest that only indy marks like. A lot of them also cant cut promos. Ricochet is a prime example of this. You cant make it past mid card on technical wrestling ability and athleticism alone.

[@MrMGR1986]

@@MrTrueCaller619The reason all the shit that Corny has been giving them for years is the reason why AEW is worse off than they were a few years ago. The matches are boring spot fests and Tony Khan(as much as I love the guy for what hes done) he cant book.

[@MrMGR1986]

@@MrTrueCaller619Watch Bret vs Austin WM13 to see why Bret is Bret. Watch WM26 vs Taker to see why Shawn is Shawn. Dave should have given that match 5 stars. It was the best match in wrestling for almost a decade. We hadnt seen a match that good in so long but it was finally a shining light that wrestling was eventually returning to form after the bulk of the Cena era. But shit almost a year after that Cena and Punk put on a 5 star at MITB 2011

[@ijustwatchyoutube1242]

Bret is the better wrestler. Hbk is the better entertainer

[@NuMetalfan1996]

Disagree I think Shawn is the better wrestler

[@NuMetalfan1996]

@ijustwatchyoutube1242 My argument for why Shawn is the better wrestler is that Shawn could have a good match with a lot of different talents, Bret couldn’t. That why I rank Kurt Angle better than Bret as well, Kurt could go out there with someone like Mr Kennedy and have a great fucking match. Bret struggled to work with different talents that weren’t really good in the ring. Bret could only work well with guys that were really good in the ring like Shawn, Hennig, Flair, Savage, Owen etc etc.

[@DethronedByEli]

Shawn seems like a douche tho

[@tommyfraz.]

@@NuMetalfan1996I could see an argument that Shawn was a better wrestler, I think Bret would even agree on some levels. But you lose credibility saying “Bret only had good matches with good workers.” That’s not my opinion, that’s the opinion of 99% of the locker room. Bret got the best out of everyone. Did Bret make everyone amazing, every time? No. But they likely had their best match of their career.

[@NuMetalfan1996]

@@tommyfraz. But Shawn and Angle could have better matches with weaker workers, than Bret could. That’s why Shawn and Angle are better than Bret imo. It’s not about how good you can look, but how good can you make others look as well.

[@AndiGe_]

It is fascinating that many people in the US still don't seem to realize how popular Bret Hart was overseas during the 90s. Next to the Undertaker, he was definitely the most popular wrestler.

[@coolguy298]

​@@decollector95 Bret was never popular as Hogan or warrior. People seem to be quite delusional. Bret was vanilla. Even in the international markets they did smaller arenas because Bret Hart couldn't sell big arenas.

[@bilogskii2216]

That's only in Canada. The rest of the world it has always been Hogan on top followed by Taker. HBK and Bret were pretty even.

[@AndiGe_]

@@bilogskii2216 nonsense. The cheap us-patriotism obviously didn't draw overseas. Overseas bret was loved because he represented skill, realism, coolness.

[@Blueboy969]

I'm from London and Bret and Undertaker had more fans from the older kids born in the late 70s early 80s and HBK had more fans born in the late 80s early 90s

[@danielebowman]

@@coolguy298neither did HBK who face run as champion was one of the lowest drawing in history. Bret draw a lot more and way more Overseas.

[@Chickenplop89]

Bret was definitely the better baby face, Shawn was a natural heel.

[@Maxamili]

Growing up, Bret Hart was like a superhero to me. Even though his promos weren’t incredible, he was extremely over as a baby face, especially with kids - which is what the WWF was geared towards at the time. I would personally give him at least an 8/10.

[@MimicMayhem66]

We see you Kermit lol

[@davidnec571]

Same, Bret was a superhero to me. His promos as a face were amazing. People attack his promos as if they want him to say over-the-top stuff like the Rock would. His gimmick was to play the cool guy who doesn't say much but when he does talk, people hang on to his every word.

[@n8doggy733]

Bret Hart was like he equivalent of Michael Jordan or Wayne Gretzky when I was a kid. I was born In 85 for perspective

[@bwareist]

Of course he was. They didn't have much else outside of Bret, Shawn, and Undertaker after Hall and Nash left.

[@Luso00_]

A lot of wrestlers put on a persona for their character, but Bret was so down to earth which made him relatable.

[@reallymakesyouthink]

Bret the better face, Shawn the better heel. Bret was so damn likable it was hard to draw heat. Even when he did the anti American thing people still loved him everywhere else. Hell even a lot Americans still cheered. Shawn was a fantastic heel because he was so cocky and arrogant but had the ability to back it up.

[@Blackson187]

Bret's 97 heel run is better than anything Shawn ever did.

[@Terrykinrade]

@@Blackson187 I agree with you 100%

[@eldiablo3794]

Bret made me want to be Canadian, and I envied them during his anti America crusade lmao

[@Terrykinrade]

@@eldiablo3794 I'm from the uk and we loved him during his anti American gimmick, infact all of europe did, it was only only the Americans that would boo him and even some of them like yourself were against booing him.

[@desisdosis473]

@@Blackson187 Shawn's run from 1995 - 2010 was better than anything any wrestler ever did.

[@vertigov5303]

All day long, Bret is the better baby face. I can't agree with you on that.

[@PhilipBelmont]

Yeah hard to cheer for the middle aged man prancing around in glitter calling himself a sexy boy lol

[@Retrorevelations]

@@PhilipBelmont Not just that, but there was nothing at all believable about HBK as a face. He didn't really act differently as a face, he still was self-involved, still came out dancing to a song he sung about HIMSELF being a "sexy boy" (and doing a very non-PG strip-tease routine as part of his ring entrance, literally an unspoken male stripper gimmick). He was still the same cocky prick, made the same jokes, cut the same promos. There was literally nothing different about "face" HBK, except that suddenly we were supposed to believe he was "humble" (the guy who told the ref to get Bret out of his ring, after Bret put him over huge at WM12), and that he has this "boyhood dream" to fulfill (the 1996 version of the lame "finish the story" angle). Much like Randy Orton, HBK was just never a believable hero. He came across as forced, phony, disengenous. They're both very believable pricks. Thus natural heels. Bret on the other hand, while good at being a heel (either as 80s Hart Foundation heel, or 97 "anti-American" heel), he was a believable, credible hero, and a much better babyface.

[@seanstazen3199]

I’d agree with 1996 Shawn, but 02-08 he was a great baby face

[@AD-ur1fk]

@@PhilipBelmontare u forgetting Shawn had a 2nd run where he was a mega babyface ??? I agree he wasn’t a great babyface his first run

[@PhilipBelmont]

@@AD-ur1fk I'm too young too have seen his 1st run my intro to him was when he came back in 2002 and feuded with HHH, and I thought: "whats the deal with this middle aged man prancing around to a song about being a sexy boy?"

[@LeScap]

The number I disagree with here is giving 7 to Bret as a Babyface. It's crazy. As specially with charisma and promo being their own category, Bret was a huge success as a Babyface. He wasn't as much boring as just real. It wasn't like today when babyfaces are like cool heels, he was a real Babyface.

[@kevins4222]

Yeah, Bret was a much better face than HBK (until his last year). HBK for his first run was a TERRIBLE face.

[@brandonnichols1761]

I agree with you both! I laughed when he said 7

[@Retrorevelations]

If Bret had been a "7", he wouldn't have become Vince's go-to guy after Hogan. He wouldn't have been the face of the company from 93-97, and he wouldn't have main evented 3 Wrestlemanias. Granted, Vince being Vince, was always constantly trying to revert to his "big man" obsession, with Luger, with Diesel, etc. And then there was the bizarre man-crush he developed on HBK, which got so bad that it was a detriment to the locker-room and Bret's career, literally letting Shawn do about whatever he wanted. BUT, while I could argue Vince absolutely should have booked certain things differently (such as NOT putting the belt on Hogan after Yoko won it, or IMO having the main event of WM11 be Bret getting his title back from a great crazy heel Bob Backlund), Bret was still unarguably THE man of the "New Generation" era, and he carried the company on his back through very tough times.

[@MrMisanthrope84]

Yeah I remember those days, Bret was the coolest wrestler ever. Those wraparound shades, the leather jacket, that charisma was off the charts.

[@SinistralEpoch]

Bret was not a huge success as a face. Bret’s run as ‘the’ face oversaw the worst period in the WWFs history. Being good at wrestling isn’t interesting. Bret was far more interesting as a heel.

[@allisterfield6028]

In shawn's second run, after winning the world heavyweight title for 1 month and losing it, NEVER won a single's title again but stayed relevant from 2002 to retirement. His feuds all mattered, storylines were some of the best and he never needed a title to validate that...for me thats what makes him best. That second run is so underrated

[@itsJUSTMECE]

a STRONG case can b made that Shawn should had beat CENA at Mania 23. they did win the tag titles for a min during his second run if i remember correctly.

[@vb2806]

His feuds never mattered. Beating Shawn means absolutely nothing. Losing to Bret made Austin. Bret could go against Taker and look like a threat.

[@zeokin2522]

This should be an ongoing series I really enjoyed the format. No one else even does anything close to this.

[@SeanWelsh-h6v]

I'd put Bret as a better babyface than Shawn. Shawn was more fun and charismatic as a babyface but Bret was just more naturally likeable

[@indusanon33]

C'mon..Bret a 7 as a Babyface. The guy was the most loved wrestler globally in the 90's. EVERYONE wanted to be Bret.

[@planexshifter]

Dude, I remember how he used to come out n give a kid in the front his sunglasses… Everyone loved Bret

[@TheWdaimee]

Dude it's Stevie Richard's opinion. The guy has never been over anywhere.

[@Daemon1356]

Im going to play devils advocate, i bet you hated Shaun more than you wanted to be Bret

[@Daemon1356]

​@@TheWdaimeei always liked Stevie

[@TheWdaimee]

@Daemon1356 Me too, I like him as well, and he comes off as a nice guy who's quite knowledgeable about the industry. But, he's never drawn a dime, nor people have paid to see him, specifically wrestler. I am taking his comparison with a grain of salt but it's definitely interesting.

[@Glasschin2.0]

Don’t understand how he made Shawn a better Babyface. Even when the hart foundation were heels the fans cheered Bret.

[@michaelmercury1297]

It's just his opinion.

[@BakesBread001]

It is his opinion. In my opinion, Shawn was the same character whether heel or babyface. Circumstances around Shawn determined whether he was likeable. But he did create the “cool heel” and “edgy babyface.” Bret was a great babyface with his work and an underrated heel when he had something good to talk about (i.e. American angle).

[@michaelmercury1297]

@@BakesBread001 I agree.

[@michaelmercury1297]

I think Shawn may have been a better talker but Bret was a better babyface.

[@BakesBread001]

@@Glasschin2.0 I was watching Cornette. And he talked about how Bret knew how to wrestle as a heel. Classic stuff. For example, against Austin he went for the knee brace. I think Bret’s lack of promo skills, which he admits to, unfairly affects people’s perception of him as a heel. Shawn is a natural heel. Bret became a very good heel.

[@tennesseekayakd255]

I can still go back and watch Bret’s matches. They’ve not lost anything over time.

[@DavidWilson-tr2qj]

Absolutely 💯% truth!!!! I even own Bret's DVD set he put together after he retired!!! I love his candidness during his interviews on the documentary side and totally enjoy the matches that are included!!! I recommend it to any Hitman fan!!!

[@davidlyf2508]

Shawn?? A better face than Bret?? Bruh!! Bret is probably one of the greatest faces of all time!! Top 5 for sure

[@Luso00_]

A lot of kids loved Bret, but Stevie brings up women for Shawn.

[@Treyski4410]

Go back and look at HBK last match cmon man HBK was and became far more popular faces than Bret

[@briansolo]

it seems like many people in this thread are forgetting 2002-2010 HBK. He was 98% face, and he was ALWAYS over

[@darknessandlife777]

​@@briansoloHe was NEVER over. 20,000 "super" kicks and he never drew a dime.

[@kevinlee9929]

​@@Treyski4410There were multiple times throughout Shawn's career when he got booed as a babyface. Bret didn't get booed as a babyface until he was making his heel turn.

[@jmurdock8303]

Bret punches were way better

[@pinknick82]

Shawn’s jabs were better.

[@jmurdock8303]

@pinknick82 have you been in a real fight?

[@marcespinoza6068]

"Selling" should be a category instead of "Out of the Ring Attitude".

[@ahmadceasar5484]

What

[@fmthebaron]

Correct. Out of Ring Attitude has nothing to do with the in ring ability.

[@ahmadceasar5484]

@@marcespinoza6068 selling is an in ring ability tho

[@KhanSpirasi]

"Selling" is part of nearly every category on the list. It's more of a subcategory

[@Ferpero]

selling 10/10 for both.

[@WhelmedButReady]

Brian Last once said "Bret was the better wrestler (realism/legitimacy) but Shawn was the better performer (dramatics, most compelling storyteller)" and I always thought that was the perfect encapsulation of the two.

[@Terrykinrade]

@@WhelmedButReady I agree with you, but at the end of the day bret made wrestling look real, shawn didn't he was far to over the top, flipping and flopping about, blowing suspense of disbelief right out of the window, even as a heel bret was still loved here in the uk, European fans refused to boo him it was quite the opposite they loved him.

[@louio]

These guys are neck and neck.

[@Terrykinrade]

@@louio I will always believe bret hart was the better wrestler and made it look much more real than mr flip flop shawn michaels

[@JD_Power]

Smart people here

[@desisdosis473]

​@@TerrykinradeI think it's a misconception that wrestling gets better the more realistic it looks.

[@VodkaSoda]

I'm Canadian and Shawn Michael's promo in Montreal, on raw in 2005?, is the greatest promo I have ever seen.

[@mrassassinscreedfan1]

Who's you're daddy Montreal

[@vikdaddy]

No way HBK is better Face. Stevie clearly doesn't understand the appeal Bret had across Europe and the rest of the world, and of course in Canada.

[@fmthebaron]

HBK vs Bulldog One Night Only in England in 1997, HBK had that entire crowd on their feet half cheering/half booing easily getting the biggest reaction of the night. Also in 2007 HBK vs John Cena in England in the hour long epic match HBK had that entire crowd cheering him with massive cheers with the biggest reaction of the night once again. Actually every time HBK went to Europe for that matter in the 2000's he was the most over guy in the entire WWE getting the biggest cheers. Also 2005 HBK vs Ric Flair in Japan at the Saitama Super Arena HBK was the most over guy easily getting the biggest cheers of all the WWE roster once again. HBK heel promo in Montreal in 2005 was nuclear heat with everybody on their feet once again. Only guy that could come close to HBK's popularity oversees was The Undertaker, Bret would be #3.

[@phenomenalelitebasketball2124]

Bret was a vanilla baby face in America he could have a good match with anyone on the roster at the time but his promos were atrocious and about being a squeaky clean good guy which that promo material gets stale quick Shawn was better overall no matter what demons he had while they were in WWE simultaneously

[@ferox965]

Canadian here. We don't boo Bret Hart here.

[@Jcrash71]

Bret didn't draw

[@ATFjames]

So true Stevie is of base on this big time. Bret was a way bigger face.

[@figgyfox8465]

Lost me when he gave Bret a 7 for babyface, growing up in England watching from 92-97 Bret was the biggest babyface to me and my friends,we liked him more than Davey boy,he was never a heel in Uk...ever

[@jacobgreendayheart1]

Agree Bret was huge not just in England, but Europe

[@figgyfox8465]

@@jacobgreendayheart1 exactly! He is the definition of babyface, that's why Stevie's ranking makes no sense at all,he is the best pro wrestler to ever do it,hbk may come close in the overall rankings but he's nowhere near in the big picture

[@TamilMediaTV]

​​@@figgyfox8465 I too lost it seeing 7 for Bret as babyface. He always used to gift his cooler shades to kids in the crowd which was so naural of him. Shawn getting 9 for putting Canada flag on his nose and literally f***ng the flag in the middle of the ring? And he did all this shit out of script when he was supposed to play as 'face' Oh this analysis was so bad. Thumbs down 👎

[@kevinlee9929]

Bret was definitely more over as a babyface. Bret's popularity forced Vince to change his WM 10 plans.

[@AncientChi]

Hbk is the best goat!

[@Ericortiz_arts]

These are my two favorites of all time. Never disappointed even at Shawn’s early HBK persona. That Survivor Series 92 match with Bret for WWF title is one of my faves, so underrated at the time. The action was called by Vince and Bobby Heenan. Classic.

[@DaveMoth]

Giving Bret 5 for charisma is extremely harsh, he was very charismatic just in a different way to Shawn.

[@kombinationkid]

bret is better at getting other people over, shawn was best at getting his angle over.

[@TheAstonishingly]

YES

[@kombinationkid]

@decollector95 in a sense yeah, Brett was just really good at taking people coming up and turning them to stars or making people look better than they were. Think Shawn at WM12, Austin at WM13, Davey Boy, Tom Magee. Brets highlights are usually what he did for others

[@kevins4222]

100% - the major difference between Shawn and Bret is that Shawn always looked impressive and great in the ring while Bret always made OTHER people look impressive and great in the ring.

[@BGLEE001]

Well..he put over angle, Benoit and even Cena over well

[@maddogsportzjh]

Not always the case with HBK. His program with Vince McMahon got stale immediately after their Mania match.

[@b-ry3545]

Bret better striker and face. HBK better heel.

[@tish9751]

Totally agree. I think he missed the mark in those categories too.

[@glamgal7106]

To me, Bret's name is synonymous with the word legend. His matches always engaged me. I loved watching him wrestle at live events. Yet when Shawn made his entrance, I'd mumble, "Oh gosh, here comes wrestling's own Liberace."

[@b-ry3545]

@@glamgal7106 Not the same for me. I suppose I’m one of the odd one’s because Bret and Shawn are my two favorites. I adore HBK’s 2nd run.

[@dominiquejones3805]

​@@b-ry3545same here HBK was putting on classic after classic n that 2nd run

[@ericmaumaryjr8344]

I'm just glad I got to watch both of them growing up. They were wrestling to me.

[@cyrus2546]

A few days ago I was watching a late 1997 episode of Raw is War. A fan held a sign that really captures the zeitgeist of 1997 WWF, it said “Hitman? HBK? Who cares? Austin 3:16!”

[@JackChurchill101]

Single thing I loved about Bret that almost no-one else did. When he grapples, or attaches a hold, he locks in, braces (initiates the move), PAUSES, and then devastates with a perfect move. The pause, right before a fast move, wasn't for "showmanship" but to allow you to see the technical side of things. So simple, but he gets it. Like the opposite of the Mexican style.

[@treybrannon4964]

Bret was the better wrestler, Shawn was the better entertainer. Shawn's matches were more exciting, Bret's were more realistic/psychological. Shawn was Raiders of the Lost Arc, Bret was The Godfather. Whichever you prefer is purely subjective to your preferred style.

[@JustAwesome-u8n]

Totally agreed In reality , mat wrestling , scientific wrestling , storytelling , Bret was phenomenal In terms of Hollywood style wrestling , high flying , flashy , Shawn wins Major promotions Bret @ Stampede WWE WCW Shawn @ AWA WWE Overall GPA Bret 10 Shawn 9.3

[@JustAwesome-u8n]

Agree ?

[@AD-ur1fk]

Not only was he a better entertainer he was a better in ring performer.

[@miketurner643]

@@JustAwesome-u8n lolz at scienticic wrestling"

[@Monty_McFly]

Great analogy

[@oceandeep318]

James raised very important points. 1. Babyface: Bret: 9 / Shawn: 7 no way Shawn is better than Bret. Shawn was bad as a babyface. Yes, he was always loved by the women but Bret was loved too. We often forget that we're talking about the 90s. Bret was a hero all over the world and Shawn in the 90s was mostly a heel. He was a babyface for a between 95 and early 97 and was actually unsuccessful. If you look at Shawn's second run, he was over as both babyface and heel but never on the level of the main eventer. 2. Heel: Bret 9 /Shawn: 10 As a heel Shawn was a natural, splitting up the Rockers, feud with Razor, tension with Diesel, later the DX phase. He was a natual heel. Bret, even though a great heel for a brief period of time, never completely embraced it. 3. Striking: Bret: 10 / Shawn: 8 Bret's punches and kicks are as perfect as it gets. He always connected but never hurt his opponent. And looked so aggressive with his striking like nobody else. Shawn had some weird jabs and punches, that were very slow, he had a bad double axe handle from the second or top rope. His punches and kicks looked weak. Stevie Richards mentioned Taker. When Taker hits the body punches, you can see how is hands open up and they look like soft claps on the stomach, really bad, same as Austin. Apparently, Stevie is not watching close enough. 4. Promos: Bret: 7 / Shawn: 9 Bret's promos are underrated. Just like James said, when Bret sat down and talked seriously in his deep tone, he was amazing. You leaned in to listen. You felt every word he said, whether it was against Diesel, Owen or Austin. His heel promos were great anyway. Shawn is very good at promos, especially as a heel. 5. Charisma: Bret 8 / Shawn: 10 Charisma is extremely difficult to rate. Because of Shawn's prettiness, flamboyance and natural energy, I give him some extra points. Bret gave you a serious vibe, that he means business, which is another sort of charisma. 6. something they missed out is selling: Bret: 10 / Shawn: 8 Bret was perfect. Nobody came close to it. Shawn was too over the top which took away the believability.

[@pikkon899]

While I do agree that Bret was a better Babyface, the kids loved Shawn as well. Go back to the Royal Rumble in 1996 or any In Your House Pay Per View in 1996 where Shawn was a babyface. You can see the kids cheering and adoring Shawn. Shawn had more of the women in the crowd cheering for him but there were a lot of kids and teens who dressed up like Shawn in the crowd during the time period.

[@mauricesanchez6804]

When i was a kid, i remember WWF showing videos about Bret being loved all over the world. I remember videos of him in Asia, Europe, Africa....this guy was loved internationally, probably still is an international loved wrestler. I met Bret in Toronto when he finally came back to WWE, and released the his DVD. The man is calm, collected...I told him i was a huge fan since i was a kid, he thanks me for being a fan, and asked me if i watched the DVD, and told me that it was really good. Got a picture of me getting his autograph on the DVD and his magazine. I literally cried right after because it was one of the best moments being a wrestling fan in meeting a wrestler ylu followed your entire life.

[@davidslayer]

my favorite hbk heel promo is when he did: WHO'S YOUR DADDDDYYY, MONTREALLLLL?! 😂

[@beccabee7105]

Omg love that fish emoji to show hbks face haha

[@DD-eight]

Hell yeah!! Then when the Hitman song played and nobody came out!! Or when the little hitman came out!! Hahaha the ultimate troll!! Shawn Michaels

[@TitusJ]

Please do more comparisons like this. Would love to see Rock/Austin, Hogan/Savage or something similar.

[@edorisk]

Uuuuuu. Love to ser a hogan savage comparison...

[@robertgibbs65]

Bret Hart was a better technical wrestler , Shawn Michaels had more charisma .

[@stevebrooks8875]

Bret never turned heel in WWE, the USA audience did. Bret was robbed out of a 2nd Royal Rumble which he technically won as Austin was eliminated prior. Constantly attacked from behind and it cost him a win over Sid? For the title. Yet he was deemed the villain when his payback was put in action. Brets actions were totally relatable, this is why he was cheered EVERYWHERE outside of the States. He was also right when he said about the family fighting, although saying the American audience didn't care for family was off the mark he was talking very emotionally but he got the Americans eating out of his hand there and they didn't even notice, this is clear because they say he couldn't cut promos that was one of the best promos I've seen how he managed to turn heel and still be the on the moral high ground making the audience look bad. Simply incredible.

[@sstrykert]

Bingo

[@RedFormanOG]

We all know that Bret's best heel moment was "Who are you to doubt El Dandy?!" 😂😂😂

[@SuCKeRPunCH187]

and Shawn's was "Whose your Daddy Montreal?"

[@matthewjenkins7488]

In all fairness, Gene Okerlund was disrespectful to the Legendary El Dandy

[@tamertalan9816]

Yeah , el dandy was a serious professional 😂

[@geoffprime4579]

He was a serious professional and had the jam. So did Hypnosis

[@obscuracrimepodcast]

Bret Hart has my favorite promo. It’s the “This is bullshit!” promo he gave to Vince in the blue steel cage. It can be argued that it was the true start of the AE.

[@davidlyf2508]

Bret is a 10 in striking.. been consistent his entire career and built a really cool move set without it being boring like others.

[@davidlyf2508]

Bruh.. Bret as a baby face was everyone’s favorite. Hes a great heel but he sorta was the stone cold Steve Austin effect before it was actually a thing. However, fans never made Bret feel like he needed to become heel.. unlike Shawn Michaels who is a better heel, but had a terrible run as a baby face.

[@glamgal7106]

Bret was definitely consistent. Too bad Vince didn't appreciate that.

[@dennissmith1072]

I was always more of a shawn fan, but i also openly admit i like the entertainment side of wrestling more than the technical. Ive always liked characters more than competitors. Saying someone is a good technical wrestler is kind of pointless imo when we know its scripted.

[@KQuick86]

I don't agree with splitting the numbers like on the promo rating. You are supposed to grade them overall

[@Aspirintax]

He fucked up the scale and gave Bret 11 points.

[@Deasnuts1]

Man that era was amazing.. that iron man match stands out as one of the all time dopest wrestling moments in my memory.

[@TheFlamingPike]

Technical wrestling I would give Bret and Shawn a solid 10. They just wrestled so differently. Bret was very old school and Shawn was innovating so a lot of things he would do were unseen and couldn't be compared. Striking, I think it's an odd category as I would say it's still part of the technical aspect of wrestling even if it's not holds, because you still need to find the right timing and it has to be part of the whole process just like a suplex. I would give Shawn a 9 because he was more of the striking kind and his finisher should count in that category, and he did it so well. Bret I'd give him a good 8 because when he'd strike it felt like he was surgically operating on the wrestlers. Both of those guys have underrated top turnbuckle elbow drops. Putting match together I'd say Bret has the edge with a 10. He literally made Steve Austin a star by building a match with him. But Shawn was amazing too. I'd give him a 9. Babyface you are dead wrong. HBK never really got 100% over as a babyface, he was always a very divisive character amongst us fans, and that's why Sycho Sid got over when they blurred the lines and people had to choose between him and Michaels. I'd give Shawn a 5 on the face aspect because we never fully trusted him. Bret got super over as a face and I would give him a solid 9 just because the 10 is reserved for Hulk Hogan, Sting and Austin who remain superior face wrestlers and got extremely over with the crowds. Totally agree with heels, both of them deserve a 10. Bret knew how to be a heel, he just didn't have much time to do it whenever he could, but man, the waving of the Canadian flag got the American crowds so riled up. And Shawn was so despicable sometimes. One of the best heel promos is when Shawn faked Bret's return and trolled the entire Canadian crowd. Presentation I would give HBK a 10 because he was a camera magnet and knew exactly what to do to stand out. Bret was a darker guy and his old school aspect kinda made his presentation more humble but he still had the classic hitman glasses and every kid wanted them. I'd give him a 9. Promos I will agree that was Bret's weakness but he still was average when compared to all wrestlers so I'd give him a 5. Shawn's abilities in that category greatly improved as he roses to stardom, he became more confident and spoke with a raspier voice, making him more of a character, but his very good promos can be counted on one hand IMO so I would give him a 7. You can't give HBK a 10 out of 10 when you have guys like Ric Flair tearing the house down. Charisma I agree with the notes. 5 for Bret and 10 for HBK seem fair. Creating memorable moments, I would instantly give them both 10 because they just did it year after year. Out of the ring attitude I would give HBK a 4 for obvious reasons. Bret I would give him a 6 because he also had his issues and he always wanted to make things about himself. So in total if I'm correct I have Bret: 82 and Shawn: 84 so it's a very very close score and I wouldn't go as far as saying one is better than the other because in my opinion neither in their prime managed to surpass the other. If you would've added athleticism I would've given Shawn a bigger score and maybe it would've widened the gap. Shawn was more agile, was faster and overall more able to do things than Bret even if Bret knew so many holds. I think it takes a lot of guts to expose your "bias" for one wrestler between those twos because it's a subject that gets people riled up haha. Me I'm just a random guy but you were a pro wrestler so it's an even deeper dive. I think that if I would use those ratings for other wrestlers I would end up with Randy Savage having the highest score. Edit: Just out of curiosity I did it with Savage. Technical: 7, Striking 9, Putting Matches: 10, Babyface: 10, Heel: 10, Presentation: 10, Promos: 10, Charisma: 10, Memorable Moments: 10, Out of Ring Attitude: 4 for a total of 90

[@carljohnson5301]

Probably one of the the most articulate and well-written comments I’ve seen in this section. About as unbiased or objective as it can get

[@aoisora1445]

outside of the ring, Bret Hart is more likely to give you an autograph and not plan to stab you in the back... i think that is part of the out of the ring attitude as well... outside of his general bitterness which i am like if he was less famous people would not even notice it since there are actually a lot of bitter wrestlers, but they got so little fame people just ignore them... meanwhile Bret still draws attention and in that case is still drawing people

[@TheFlamingPike]

@@aoisora1445 When I did my ratings I thought about wrestlers who definitely had a 10 like for example DDP or Ricky Steamboat nobody ever says anything wrong about them outside of the ring but that isn't the case with Bret.

[@michaelmercury1297]

I was going to read your comment but it's way too long.

[@TheFlamingPike]

@@michaelmercury1297 That's cool but I question why you'd reply to it then. I guess you still had some time to waste.

[@michaelbobic7135]

Bret had enormous charisma! Arenas would erupt when Bret came out to wrestle. Bret had kids wanting to touch him and get his sunglasses. Bret knew kids wanted the glasses, so he went to the soft wrap around so the wouldn't break as easily.

[@vinayshende9867]

Bret was so popular as a baby face.. We from India loved him.. Everyone wanted to wear those pink goggles like Bret Hart

[@QuothZraven]

I gonna respectfully disagree on the baby face numbers. Early and mid 90’s, Bret was the most popular wrestler in the WWF. Maybe it’s just me being biased cause Bret is my all time favorite but Shawn was more natural as a heel

[@alistairhenshall9204]

Bret was definitely the Better baby face. Stylistically speaking Shawn was born to be a heel. They’re both phenomenal. In a pinch I’d go HBK just because of his comeback run. If he hadn’t of come back and retired after 14- I’d give the edge to the Hitman

[@Austero97]

You just earned yourself a subscriber, loved this and would love to see more wrestlers comparisons with ratings. Have a nice day Stevie!

[@SimonJones265]

Born in England 88. Myself and all my friends loved Bret and very few preferred Shawn. Bret was most peoples fav wrestler.

[@AnthonyEdwards-l2l]

Great wrestler but so boring, his promos would have been destroyed in the attitude era. Unpopular opinion I know 😂

[@Thekingslayer-ig5se]

@@AnthonyEdwards-l2lhe was actually underrated

[@TitB1199]

I think Bret was bigger worldwide overall, but in the US Shaun was a bigger star.

[@WhelmedButReady]

It's always gonna be a preference argument. Both iconic and influential. Both immensely talented. Personally, I'm an HBK guy. My fav wrestler ever

[@SenjiroAkechi]

Giving Brett a 5 for charisma is laughable. Brett had something Shawn didn't. Aura. Brett truly felt like a superhero in his babyface prime. He was THE man for like 3 or 4 years, undoubtedly. He didn't have to be a flashy talker to have charisma, his charisma was a different brand altogether. You could believe Brett could beat anybody on any given night. Shawn never felt believable as a face champion, he never felt like the man. He felt like an experiment. A guy that was in the mix with other greats, even as a champion. But he was never THE guy even as champion. Brett was a larger than life superhero.

[@jaust9077]

You really arent trying to argue to bret hart was more charismatic then shawn are you buddy? Lol

[@vb2806]

​@@jaust9077Bret actually was and is more charismatic. He kept the company afloat. Shawn as a champ was sinking it. He also made a star in Austin, something Shawn could never do with anyone.

[@Arizkhaliz]

When it comes to technical wrestling, Bret is probably the blueprint. There are only a few others who come close to his level. For me, however, Shawn was and still is the better wrestler overall. As a kid, Bret resonated with me emotionally, but as a teenager and adult, I found him a bit too boring, too predictable. Shawn, on the other hand, had more versatility as a wrestler, and his matches were more varied and simply more creative. For me, it’s exactly the opposite of how it is for Richards. The older I got, the more I came to appreciate Shawn as a wrestler (he’s always been better than Bret on the mic). But I’m not a professional; for me, entertainment comes first. If it were about who executes the moves better, then of course Bret wins. However, I have to be fair and mention that Shawn developed incredibly throughout his career, reinventing himself several times. Bret didn’t have that opportunity since he had to end his active career relatively 'early,' and his time in WCW was just terrible.

[@Paul-t3q]

Brett is a proper champion , him wearing the heavyweight belt was so fitting , he gave the belt credibility.

[@ShawnReed-ny1hd]

The eagle wing belt😎

[@garydevlin8178]

Loving this as an all round breakdown with Dr. Stevie, as a newbie, hope the channel is regularly using that structure, can see this being a fav feature of the channel 👍

[@romibodoni]

In the end, I'm glad I lived watching both of them wrestling. By the way: Bret Hart was huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge here in Germany, so his babyface score would be a 10 :)

[@Pones420]

Hey Stevie! Great job with the show!! I would love to see you do the same kind of comparison with HBK and Randy Savage! Keep up the good work!

[@kobejanvicente1686]

As an entertainer, Shawn Michaels. Since wrestling is entertainment more than actual fighting, Shawn can put on memorable and matches and has more connection to the audience. As a competitor that brings out realism into a pre-determined sport, Bret Hart. In a real life fight, a submission maneuver is the most realistic way of subduing an opponent that doesn't involv knocking them out. So, as an entertainer: Shawn Michaels. As a real life fighter: Bret Hart.

[@PSJukkis]

Love this idea! Would love to see more of these.

[@scoonboon]

Bit harsh on Bret for charisma. He’s an 8/9 for sure. And I’d say his face promos were 5/6.. 3 is extreme. I’d also give Bret 10 for face. Bret was OVER all over the world.

[@glamgal7106]

I think Bret was more of a convincing face than Shawn that even when he turned heel, people included me were already invested in him. If you had the chance to meet them personally, I think that influenced how you felt about them. I've met both Bret and Shawn personally many times. Bret always presented himself as a warm, genuine person(still does). Shawn had this "I'm holier than thou" attitude and was unpredictable--nice one day but nasty the other. Bret said, "I take being a hero very seriously." I'm in my 50s now and Bret is still my hero.

[@Dudestv1]

Subscribed Immediately

[@sagemode2716]

As a kid Bret Hart was always one of the best baby faces. You always thought he was a good guy.

[@josho.9530]

Absolutely agreed on Bret being the better wrestler and Shawn being the better worker.

[@President_Shin]

Bret helped Shawn sharpshooter him

[@Luso00_]

Bret was an incredible professional until we saw Montreal Survivor Series. Every man has a breaking point. Shawn a lot of times was an entitled sore loser despite being one of the most skilled wrestlers ever.

[@Jcapo214]

Shawn was one of the top 5 of all time Brett is top 10. Austin Cena Hulk Rock Shawn Randy Macho Man Undertaker Roman Bret Hart HHH-Chris Jericho

[@NuMetalfan1996]

2002 to 2010 was Shawn Michaels’s beat ever run. I would gladly take 2002 to 2010 Shawn over 1988 to 1998 Shawn any day of the week.

[@louio]

1997 shawn michaels over any of them 😂

[@fmthebaron]

@@louio Nobody could touch 1997 HBK. I wish Brian Pillman would've joined HBK's DX, Pillman had that crazy factor that would've fit right in.

[@NuMetalfan1996]

@@fmthebaron I don’t think Pillman would’ve suited DX, and I also don’t think Pillman suited Hart Foundation either. Pillman should’ve stayed alone in 1997 and been WWF’s version of Raven. It’s a damn shame he passed away in October of 1997 as I would’ve had a Pillman vs Austin story part 2 in the summer of 1998. Pillman beats Austin for the WWF title then Austin would win it back at around SummerSlam 1998. That’s what I would’ve done had Pillman not sadly die too soon.

[@jraida172]

No one was touching HBK 95-97.

[@ferox965]

Agreed.

[@Robrr89]

4:41 your logic of why Shawn babyface is better than Brett’s is asinine. Brett carried the company as a babyface and was favored more with America in totality than Shawn. Shawn had sex appeal that doesn’t make him a better babyface. You using 1 instance as heel but not for babyface is not objective. 9:59 you’re not being fair to Brett at all, you’re not being objective, you’re subjective. You tried to make Brett look bad with 2 scores fit promos and Shawn look amazing. We can tell you love HBK. Bret is better than Shawn in majority of all ratings.

[@AlbertonBeastmaster]

Bret Hart. Shawn over-sold and had less memorable matches. I don't know why it's always Bret compared to Shawn when Mr Perfect was a much better wrestler and heel than HBK. And come on Stevie - How many wrestlers have said that Bret gave them thier best match? He got people over. Shawn never did.

[@SeptimiaofPalmyra]

Because Shawn Michaels was sucking off Vinnie Mac.

[@Wiggagroy]

YEAH SURE L TAKE

[@F_L_A_S_H22]

HBK has at least 3 -4 of the top matches of all time lmao. Go home

[@aaronnoel7859]

​@@F_L_A_S_H22exactly. Both Undertaker WM matches, Kurt Angle, Jericho, Flair retirement and that's just off top of my head without cheating and googling. There is a reason he is known as Mr. Wrestlemania, even with a not so great win loss record. Only average matches he had was when his back was all jacked up

[@desisdosis473]

@@AlbertonBeastmaster Cena, Angle, Jericho, Mysterio, Jeff Hardy, Umaga, Mr. Kennedy, Batista. The only guys Bret ever brought willingly over were Austin (who still has zero victories over Bret) and members of his family. From 1992 to 1995 he was basically Super-Bret winning every feud he was in. During his second run, Shawn never oversold except that one time against Hogan. When asked who's the best wrestler of all time most Legends of the business say "Shawn Michaels". When asked who's the best they've ever been in the Ring with it's the same answer. Here's a list of wrestlers who consider Shawn the best of all time: Flair, Angle, Undertaker, Jericho, Austin, Foley, Arn Anderson, Vader, Joey Styles, KENTA, JR, Jeff Jerrett, Jerry Lawler, Kevin Nash, Tanahashi, Scott Hall, Punk, Triple H, Bruce Prichard, even Jim Cornette said that he was untouchable in the ring during his prime (while somehow refusing to watch any HBK stuff past 2002 lol).

[@petedufoe6143]

I love this segment. We want more! Rock VS Austin Taker VS Kane Trish VS Lita Hardyz VS E&C Orton VS Cena Hogan VS Savage

[@sambill]

Bret had a different kind of charisma to Shawn. He had a quiet manily charisma like a Clint Eastwood or Johnny Cash. Shawn was more flamboyant like a Prince or Jim Carrey.

[@desisdosis473]

Watching a Bret Hart match as a Kid felt like watching your own Dad.

[@pewpewbbqs]

When I was a kid , I thought Shawn was a closeted homosexual

[@ach2337]

Watching Bret wrestle seemed so raw and real. Every punch he got made it seem like he was hurting. Every punch and move he did seemed painful including sharpshooter and figure four.

[@abrielrobertsson4160]

No way they're both a 9 at striking. Bret is a 10, Shawn is like an 8, imo. Out of ring attitude of Shawn was/is a ONE (and I'm being nice by not giving him a zero). I also definitely wouldn't put Bret so low at Promos. He was good and believable. He was real. So, let's say 7 for me as an average. Charisma 5? Bruh xD. At least a 7. That puts him at 89. Then Shawn, I'd raise him a point at technical wrestling, so an 8. That puts him at 87. So 89/87 for Bret. It's a fair score, imo. Bret was the best.

[@TheOuttaPocketVarietyShow]

When you look at how family friendly and how much kids loved Bret, getting a babyface rating of 7 isn’t fair at all. Think about how much merch he sold. He made it cool for straight boys to wear pink for God's sakes.

[@adamrenfrow]

Bret is the 🐐

[@banksta3]

For me.... Shawn had more big moments. Not way more, but more. Even his Rockers days had big moments. None of Brett's 80s years had 1 moment you could remember.

[@chrishouk5796]

Sorry, Stevie. You are wrong in this. Bret made others look good and got people over. Shawn didn't give two shits about getting anyone other than himself over. Also Bret never injured anyone during his career. Bret was the real deal. He wasn't an over the top entertainer, but he knew how to make even the worst wrestlers look like a million bucks. Helping others. Xpac, Nash, Undertaker, Austin...all of them said they had their best matches with Bret. Bret also helped The Rock when Shawn and the Kliq were trying to bury him. Shawn oversold to the point where the other looked ridiculous.

[@carljohnson5301]

I think Stevie was right in saying Shawn is better overall than Bret. Shawn put over Angle, Cena, Jericho, and Benoit by tapping out to them (which was rare), he got demolished by Mark Henry, Umaga, and Great Khali (sold for them like he was dead), he put over guys like Chris Masters, Muhammad Hassan, Carlito, Edge, Randy Orton, and many others. Many wrestlers say their best match (or one of their best matches) was with Shawn - Sid, Diesel, Taker, Triple H, Cena, Jeff Jarrett, Razor Ramon, Chris Masters, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Ric Flair, Tatanka, Batista, Mick Foley, even Bret Hart and the list goes on. And that’s off the top of my head, I could list more Also when did Shawn ever injure anyone in his career? I’m totally fine with someone stating they prefer Bret over Shawn but saying Shawn never got anybody over but himself is a disingenuous ignorant take at best

[@itsmeyo101]

More Comparisons, PLEASE!! This is Good Stuff!

[@Extreme4LYF]

Stevie clearly ranks HBK higher because he was inspired by him to get into the business, but Bret is simply better: better storyteller, wrestler, artist, better draw and gave wrestlers the best matches of their career more times than HBK did. HBK got the entertaining side of wrestling more, but Bret's 97 promos are far superior to anything HBK ever did on the stick. Bret is the clear winner, plus he's a better person and not a twat.

[@homework9102]

You seem mad af. HBK is better and had a longer and better career cope and seethe tho.

[@desisdosis473]

@@Extreme4LYF lol even if you ignore Shawn's second run, your comment reads itself like a personal vendetta.

[@aaronnoel7859]

You do realize Bret's entire career doesn't even match the cultural phenomenon that was DX. When was the last time you heard anyone reference Bret's 97 heel run? 😂 ..97 heel run, come on man

[@franklin8618]

Nahh. Shawn's heel work is better than Bret's 97 run. And you know why? Because Shawn was already a heel because he was a prick in real life lol. Shawn disrespecting the Canadian 🇨🇦 flag made you want to attack Shawn! Canadian fans are still pissed off about it until this very day lmao.

[@jraida172]

Brits adore Bret.

[@TheStupidDetectiv]

Anything Canada vs. America is so much fun. Hockey, MMA, wrestling, etc... wherever it's actually competitive, it just gets so much heat.

[@Terrykinrade]

When bret hart was at his peak it was world WRESTLING federation, shawns best matches was when it changed to wrestling entertainment, also bret had a great attitude shawn didn't infact it was only later on in his career that he stopped being vile to people, so you can't really compare the two but they were both wrestlers and in my opinion bret hart was such a great wrestler he made you suspend your disbelief, shawn didn't do that he would bounce around and flip flop, and basically over sell everything, so just as a wrestler bret hitman hart was in a different league to shawn, bret made it look real, shawn made it look clear it was fake! Also bret never hurt a single wrestler in his whole career, he really was the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be, and don't forget even cm punk said bret was the best wrestler he had ever seen and bret was the reason he got into wrestling, and even today you will still find videos of cm punks opinion of bret, cm punk even cried on camera at the fact brets career was cut so short, shawn was a showman who looked stupid with his overselling, but as a wrestler which is what the sport is all about bret hart wins hands down! Also don't forget it was mainly stone cold in the attitude era that put wcw out of business, and bret hart at wrestlemania 13 made austin look like the ultimate badass, passed out rather than submit, after that austin was a made man, but kudos to bret as in that match austin was against doing the blade job but bret knew how badass austin would look in the sharpshooter with blood pouring down his face so he let bret blade him and the rest is history, bret was selfless!

[@cipherpac]

The fact that we never got Bret vs Kurt is one of the greatest tragedies of pro wrestling history.

[@Terrykinrade]

@@cipherpac agree mate it would of been epic

[@Retrorevelations]

According to Stevie, Shawn never fully stopped being a dick to people...

[@KenL414]

Stevie this is so spot on - I grew up a wrestling fan since the 80s - and even when Bret was a heel I still rooted for him and loved him because of how great he was as a pure ring tactician. I am not sure anyone out there was as good at Bret at making his opponents look good - at least to me. Sean, however, was the total package in terms of the personality and the draw. When he was a heel he was both loved and hated, his ability to bring drama into a match was almost unsurpassed. They're two of the all time greats, and this is a really well thought out analysis.

[@via_negativa6183]

It's Bret for me, I thought wrestling was stupid until I saw him work, he was extremely believable, Shawn might be the greatest performer of all time but thats exactly what he is, a performer.

[@luckywallace]

Bret is my number 1 GOAT but Shawn is right there in 2nd place. The best guys to ever get in the squared circle.

[@JesseShredder]

Overall I agree with most of what you said. Specifically, his pacing and selling. However, I agree with James. Personally, I feel like you’re underestimating how over Bret was as a baby face in the early 90’s when he would put his glasses on kids and they had some cool promo material. He was a massively over superstar during that time.

[@littleanonymous2167]

After you gave 7 babyfaces to Bret I stopped the show and wrote the first comment, and it looks like other people commented on you about it including your show partner. Stevie, fix Bret's 7 babyface to 10. And we'll try not to refer to the one you gave Shawn a 9 on Babyface.

[@markvilla8703]

Shawn's personality aside, he has my vote. He just did stuff that were way ahead of his time and his athleticism was second to none.

[@TheMr32hunter]

he was no dynamite kid.

[@markvilla8703]

@@TheMr32hunter Yup

[@Rjensen2]

What did Shawn do that was "way ahead of his time"?

[@Blitzkreeg21]

@@Rjensen2Superkicks? Lol kidding aside… modern indie wrestling has largely been defined by his style - dramatic and big moves with a tendency towards overselling. He was ahead of his time because his style defines the now.

[@Rjensen2]

@@Blitzkreeg21 Nah, that's more of a Japanese thing. Shawn was great of course, but he definitely wasn't ahead of his time.

[@arthurcaron9271]

Hi love the show I agree with the babyface/heel grades. I appreciate how you included the Canada/US dynamic in the grading as well

[@deadbrothers8348]

Wish more workers looked up to Bret instead of hbk … Bret was more wholesome and moral than hbk stripping in front of children or backing outta work when it wasn’t something he wanted to do … besides being a better person and role model Bret was just way better than hbk in the ring way more believable

[@ahmadceasar5484]

It's wrestling bro calm down

[@deadbrothers8348]

@@ahmadceasar5484 lol what part should I be calm about? I’m actually very chill , even go as far as I’m calmer than you are … I’m not the one telling a random dude to calm down over his opinion… so I’m actually calmer than you are

[@ahmadceasar5484]

You saying Bret is more wholesome as moral than Shawn it's wrestling bro calm down​@@deadbrothers8348

[@ATFjames]

Bret is one of few ever that had so many insanely great matches and Shawn's over selling took away from his believability. Shawn was entertaining but Bret just was the best in ring guy ever!

[@eldiablo3794]

There's a reason why Bret is considered the best there is, the best there was, and the best their ever will be.. the excellence of execution. Everything about him was cool.. even when he was a heel constantly crapping on American culture I still cheered for him. Even as an adult I would let him put his sunglasses on me lol. 🕶🇨🇦

[@jason666king]

The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.

[@alinasir27]

Majority Comments favor Bret❤

[@Bkump]

HBK is an amazing talent, but he was handed lasting opportunities because of his relationship with Triple H and by extension the McMahon family, IMO l this is the biggest piece of their history that keeps HBJ within reach of Bret, Vince obviously had some BS feud with Stu Hart that kept Bret and Owen from reaching their full potential.

[@ojgimpson]

Bret was better

[@Bernicia295]

If he puts you to sleep I think that says a lot more about you and your attention span than it does about Bret.

[@MrCody6925]

The Montreal screwjob itself should give them an 11. 😂

[@philipbeasley72]

I would have given Bret a 91.5 And Shawn 90.5

[@dnice2000]

Stevie: explains why Bret's a better striker Also Stevie: Their striking is both a 9😂

[@VidiverseExplorer]

The Hitman is the goat, but I'm still curious to see this.

[@richardh8811]

Shawn failed as face of the company, Bret carried them after Hogan. That score was ridiculous

[@randyhavard6084]

Bret is my favorite wrestler of all time

[@be_regular8670]

Shawn’s punches were legit looking, didn’t matter if it was the same.