She Hulk: Forget Everything you Knew you Bigot!

[@officerbucktuddrussel394]

She-hulk: "I'm great at controlling my anger" Also She-hulk: *comes within a gnats pube of killing three men for wanting to talk to her, only stopping because Bruce stopped her.*

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

We never see what happened to those men. They could actually be dead

[@uhskn9753]

I mean they were taking the piss lol, if they did that to me i'd fuck them up too lmaooo

[@franciscopereira5760]

not anti men btw

[@marcogenovesi8570]

You don't understand. She WANTED to do that. She has full control of herself she is just evil as fk

[@Grabthar191]

@@marcogenovesi8570 Most modern female super heroes in the comics act like villains. Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel were running a secret gulag for PreCrime. They had a psychic tell them who was going to commit a crime and they locked them up in their secret prison. Captain Marvel straight up murdered Tony Stark. They have since cloned him, but they made the mistake in the comics of the clone admitting he isn't really Tony Stark. So Iron Man was murdered by Cpt Marvel. Modern Western Comics are written by people who fantasize about being lauded for being super villains. The authors are just as evil, they just lack the power to enact their twisted desires.

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

She-Hulk's greatest weakness: Mansplaining. She-Hulk's greatest power: Feminagging.

[@thetruesimplegrid]

@digifalc0087 I'ma use it too

[@gost1997cj]

Feminagging sounds lit, time to use it

[@moojoos4496]

I have a new word!! thankyou

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

Try nagravating... it works better.

[@setsuki17]

Femnagging is lit will use it for now on as well thanks for sharing this with us. 👍😁

[@DarthDevorin]

"Was making her insufferable actually necessary?" "For comedy, absolutely."

[@gunznblades3547]

Saying it's for comedy does kinda sound like a bit of a stretch though...

[@1omeagashen]

To be honest I believe she really isn't acting. Other than thinking she's attractive.

[@P12ooF]

@@gunznblades3547 some comedy is unintentional. Its like one of those super bad movies that are so bad its good or something...

[@Giving50prcnt]

@@P12ooF like most of the Scary Movie films.

[@Grabthar191]

@@P12ooF Like Tommy Wassua's "The Room"

[@Laxhoop]

The scene where She-Hulk tells THE HULK, that she has far more trouble controlling her anger, is genuinely unforgivable, both for the character, and the writers.

[@gunkysdestruction]

fr, like i’m pretty sure the hulk had more things to worry about other than being catcalled in the street💀

[@j.2512]

@@gunkysdestruction except this hulk browses reddit

[@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle]

@@gunkysdestruction It's only the guilt of feeling responsible for the death of half of all life in the universe, nothing so horrendous as getting unwanted compliments

[@GrimPE]

​@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandlethat's sounds pretty bad to me

[@fumikage9797]

Still can't believe that the MCU turned into a big-budget CW mess almost immediately after endgame.

[@Eking-su3tr]

Cw gets a pass tho imo....this is disney we're talking about. The entire of phase 4 plays out like a season of hannah Montana mixed with power rangers

[@arthurduncan5838]

@@Eking-su3tr LOL Holy shit you fucking nailed it! That’s exactly the vibe!

[@crimsonking440]

After?

[@MrJarckle7378]

Definitely doesn't put a smile on my face

[@haynesdevon0]

What do you mean "almost"

[@RogueFox2185]

Jen- “I get catcalled on the streets Bruce, you would never know what I go through and I CLEARLY have a better management of my own anger than you!” Bruce- “I watched my dad beat my mother to death and was abused by him, I was hunted by the US government for years and I couldn’t even form relationships with others. I had to isolate myself from most of human society because if I ever lost control of my anger then many innocent people would have ended up DYING Jen, being a Hulk takes restraint and you will be very fortunate if you never reach the abyss as to where you might put a gun into your own mouth and squeeze the trigger.” -How the conversation, SHOULD have gone with a competent writer.

[@daniboy4153]

But don't you know? Women have it harder than men, getting catcalled is worse than abuse and being a killing machine. We can't sympathize with a man now

[@thetruesimplegrid]

Yeah I kinda forgot that Bruce tried to off himself and then the Hulk kicked in and saved him.

[@matane2465]

If Bruce gets too excited he Hulks out meaning he can't have a sex life, there was a scene explaining this in the Norton movie, meanwhile She Hulk is riding the carousel.

[@Crazy_socks69]

But again it is always about "the message" and hate white men and (both) Disney/Marvel don't give a shit about the source material either. Even then, they rather hire someone who only wants to shit on the original source material rather having actual good writers and others with passion of making actual good films/shows. :/

[@shinobixa4]

Thank you

[@CK-xz6wv]

Shehulk complaining about being catcalled and mansplained to a man that was literally hunted like an animal by the army is just too perfect

[@yourvenparianen5390]

Not to mention saying she hates men lecturing her in her area of expertise while lecturing banner on how hulk powers work when hes the only expert on hulk powers and also an extremely smart scientist who specialises on gamma radiation and knows exactly how those powers work...

[@steelheart538]

Not to mention that the hulk had to fight multiple world ending threats to defend people that hated him.

[@JemRau]

@@steelheart538 Thats because he’s weak compared to Thanos. He can’t win a fist fight against an Eternal-Deviant

[@steelheart538]

@@JemRau I'm sorry but r we talking about the same thing? I was talking about how the hulk has risked his life multiple times to save earth but u r talking about how he lost to Thanos. I don't know how this connects to she-hulk undermining the hulk's tragic past and his experience fighting villains that could have destroyed the earth or worse.

[@jackhhun2698]

Tell me you want to expose toxic feminism without telling me you want to expose toxic feminism

[@Memology101]

DSP returning as a transition is god-tier.

[@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown]

I love how she claims to have better control over her anger than Bruce, yet she straight up tried to murder those guys for talk to her.

[@franciscopereira5760]

lets just say she doesnt like men very much...

[@viljamtheninja]

Not to mention she has a b*tch fit because she has to tell a man about how tough it is to be subjected to catcalling. I mean, I get it, the point is that she's letting out a lot of pent up frustration that has built up over time, but she's letting it out in a completely unreasonable situation while spewing gall over someone who has done absolutely nothing wrong.

[@taags]

For women accountability feels like oppression. Its always someone else that is wrong.

[@GoatSimpulator]

Jen: "I get cat-called Bruce... Treated like a sex object!!!" Bruce: *"I literally CAN'T have sex, Jen..."*

[@mrbigglezworth42]

@@franciscopereira5760 She-Hulk, or the shows writers?

[@viljamtheninja]

That scene where She-hulk talks about how hard it is being a woman COULD have been a pretty powerful emotional moment that might've inspired some sympathy if it wasn't used specifically to shut down a man and invalidate his own experiences. The show is insulting the entire male audience, while complaining how hard it is to be a woman because people talk down to you. This is so out of touch and hypocritical that it is actually insane. Like, these writers COMPLETELY lack self-awareness. Complete self-absorption.

[@daniboy4153]

Exactly!

[@bZman]

It COULD have been powerful if Bruce decided to one up her and point out how minuscule her bs is in regards to what his life has been like.

[@bobcahill7100]

To me it’s about the specific man she was saying it to... like that bull was anything compared to what Bruce’s life has been

[@EI-diablo-r9i]

Lol I can't believe it was not obv to figure out what kinda show it'd be. The she hulk portrayal in the comics recently is absolutely propoganda based insults. It's just a liberalistic farce of "equality". Its good to read if you wanna get real real angry. I expected the show to blow the mizoginy outta the park. Glad I wasn't wrong.

[@RoninDave]

and saying that to a man who had his mother murdered by his abusive father in front of him, was hunted by the military, and lost his love and a good friend in End Game but she was CATCALLED and MANSPLAINED to! Did none of the writers think or care? Most likely both

[@williambrown4138]

Whenever a woman is "empowered" in modern media, its always at the expense of men. If a man always measured his worth by belittling women, we call that pathetic. If a woman always measures her worth by belittling men, we call that progression.

[@rhamsus1]

We don't. They do.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

That's the only way you can "empower" a woman lmao. Also I don't call that progression and neither do you.

[@williambrown4138]

@@A_Black_Sheep94 I meant "we" as a collective whole. Our society is messed up.

[@zuttoaragi8349]

@@rhamsus1 "We" clearly refers to society as a general whole, not the specific subgroup you, me, and OP belong to.

[@newdivide9882]

@@williambrown4138 “We” as a collective whole don’t do that either. Weirdos and creeps in the upper echelons of society do that nonsense. The average person in society does not. People have to learn that there’s Society (AKA normal, everyday people) and then there’s “Society™️” (institutions like Hollywood, corporate, higher education, social media, and everything else disconnected from reality)

[@rikumajumder1558]

They emasculated the Hulk. I can't believe they actually managed to do that. No other character is safe anymore if they can domesticate the Hulk.

[@foxbow3889]

What other terrible thing will happen next, a viking god playing fort... holy cow

[@usedforks]

Someone had a good take on it where they were like "Bruce controlled his anger through her entire ignorant, egotistical rant better than she did. He proved why he is better at being a hulk than she is." So they could THEORETICALLY redeem the show by having her make a complete fool of herself in her own overconfidence, but I sincerely doubt that's going to happen. Lord knows I'm not going to watch and find out. Either way, the Bruce take is still a good take IMO.

[@foxbow3889]

@@usedforks how will it be self aware when the wwriter of the show is devoted to white blue haired girl on twitter?

[@Kemot300]

At this point a homeless person can write a better script than most hollywood writers/directors simply due to actual life experience

[@WiseOwl_1408]

Would actually be interesting

[@DS-ld8ns]

its always been the case, they are not longer getting the goods that people are offering because the people they been taking from is purposely giving them shit so they produce shit.

[@crazycoffee]

Homeless people's stories are much better than 99% of movies, shows, comics, books, games, excreta. Take it first hand they have some crazy interesting stories I wish I had more of lol.

[@SoloDoloToker]

Oh a homeless person would write the sh*t out of a script especially since it'd be his ticket out of homelessness. Extra motivation

[@RextheRebel]

Most homeless people are actually really creative but because their skills are not what the typical employer looks for they can't pay their rent because they don't possess other meaningful talents.

[@kenny5355]

Its hilarious thinking of Bruce's story all before this point with him literally helping save the planet multiple times and going through what would be to a normal person extremely traumatic experiences, including watching most of his friends fade to ash in front of his eyes, all for she hulk to talk about how she controls her anger more than him because she gets cat called sometimes, who are these fuckin writers bro

[@369Sigma]

She about lost her shit explaining how she can handle her shit 😂

[@protorhinocerator142]

A bunch of Super-Karens wrote this. It's a hot mess, inside a dumpster fire, aboard a train wreck.

[@philfedorowick]

I mean, everyone experienced the snap, right? She must have seen plenty of her loved ones ashed too…

[@thejourneyman8890]

@wonderwaffles same happened to me on the 4th of July wearing as much red white and blue as Walmart would provide lol. Flattering honestly. I could deal with that daily no bap.

[@botezsimp5808]

@@protorhinocerator142 We must stop the Super Karens!!

[@kyguy3242]

Feminist: "You'll never understand how hard it is to be a woman, because you aren't one." Also feminist: *Assumes to know how "easy" it is to be a man, despite not being one.*

[@ThomasCostigan]

And also not being able to give a definition of a woman lol.

[@پوریاصحبتزاده-ب3ب]

Yeah it most be pretty hard to be so good at self sabatoge.

[@NTTofMistery]

which is funny, cause there was this one feminist who tried to live like a man for a year or something and came out of it extremely depressed and ultra happy that she was a woman

[@mckinnonwolf7877]

@@NTTofMistery if you find that video, let me know the title because I’ve been wanting to see it again

[@پوریاصحبتزاده-ب3ب]

@@NTTofMistery Your timing is impeccable my friend.

[@NicholasBrakespear]

The reality of the scene in the restroom is that they'd assume she was drunk/a junkie and try to ignore her, probably say snide things about her. As for cat-calling, I find myself remembering something Marina Sirtis of Star Trek fame once said - that she used to find it offensive... then she got older, and she was basically advising younger women; you'll miss it when it stops.

[@SoldierSpiderx]

Gotta love how she dismisses his experience of abuse, depression, attempted suicide, being hunted by the government, war and loss. But being approached by men you're not interested in, it's no problem if they are, and occasional co-worker drama is over the top and qualifies her over him or any man.

[@roseveluofficial401]

Yeah, Bruce is the last guy you'd tell that kind of speech. It's like she has zero empathy. Also, he was trying to help her and she went immediately defensive. Not the kind of reaction that make her likeable.

[@obiwan9662]

Women ☕️

[@kalashnikovdevil]

@@roseveluofficial401 Well yeah, he implied a woman might be wrong or need help.

[@nozzlium]

@@obiwan9662 hahahahahahahahahaha *sluurrpppp*

[@chalkdemon8019]

Yeah fuck Disney. I can’t wait until this stupid show joins the rest of the trash in the woke wasteland.

[@bmccloughan9536]

As an ex construction worker all it takes is a report from a woman that you looked to long at her to get fired. We got banned from using the elevator on a job site because we intimidated them just being there. We were also instructed to never initiate any interaction only respond and watch what we say. So yeah in all my years of construction there was no "cat calling". But that's here.

[@i_grok_u2902]

Yep- cabinet maker for 23 years, never have I seen or heard a catcall once while on the jobsite... it must be just certain areas?

[@craigime]

that's messed up

[@Mattened]

@digifalc0087 Or that didn't really happen at all, and there's just people in high positions, with sinister motives, just trying everything they can, to keep men and women at odds with one another.

[@b-chroniumproductions3177]

@@Mattened They're pitting people against each other so we can't resist them when they force us to live in the pod and eat bugs. They want to be a boot stamping on a human face... forever.

[@johnnymo4000]

Can barely even workout in a gym anymore either without some woman proclaiming you looked at her asshole while she was presenting it at the front of the gym to everyone there.

[@Coyotebriggs]

It's hilarious to me, in the worst way possible, that after the car accident instead of calling a ambulance, or using a first aid kit, the women decide what Jen need is a MAKEOVER! Really fighting stereotypes there Marvel lol.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

After the first stereotypes women can't drive and gossiping about well built celebrities sex life.

[@BloodFeatherProductions]

Like every other hero who gets a makeover with their powers but not a hospital visit 😂😂

[@budgiecat9039]

And they were all dressed like 70's hookers lol

[@codym5352]

I'm convinced they changed her origin as a subconcious way to downplay HIV. Think about it HIV is spread through transfer of fluids. California LITERALLY decriminalized people ACTIVELY spreading HIV and made it so they don't have to disclose to their partners they have it and if they give it to somebody else they now can't be sued for it or punished in ANY sort of way in Cali. The same people who literally tried imprisoning people who didn't get vaccinated against a temporary virus only about as severe as the flu. Made it so THEY CAN LITERALLY SPREAD A COMPLETELY INCURABLE, 100% FATAL, LIFE ALTERING, DEBILITATING, LIFELONG DISEASE to WHOEVER they want just cuz they wanna get laid and face ZERO concequences for it. Now they're trying to go "Oh look, if you get infected through fluid transfer it's a 'sUpEr PoWeR" This isn't about virtue signaling, it's these people LITERALLY TRYING TO INFECT EVERYONE ELSE WITH THEIR DISEASES TOO. Cuz according to them if THEY shouldn't have to deal with the concequences of their own actions, everybody else has to to do it for them

[@Jimoshi1]

They also applied makeup lol OVER the dirn on her face and Sprayed her heir without even combing it first at least?

[@ShadowBlade972]

"I have to listen to incompetent men talk to me about my area of expertise." Says the female lawyer to the male scientist who knows more about gamma radiation than his entire life time of research/experience.

[@sacha8uk]

And who tunes out the advice of an actual lawyer in favor of a paralegal's just because she can't handle criticism; so it could be argued she's not even a n expert in her own area of expertise.

[@whtwolf100]

She's literally arguing with a doctor about a medical condition so rare that he's the sole expert on earth on it, because he's had it for years

[@thestonedquarry4705]

@Effort Less How?

[@gmajor1273]

The worst part about that whole "great at controlling her anger" scene is that just a few minutes earlier she was about to kill a couple of guys for the crime of talking to her in a way she didn't like before Hulk stopped her. How is that controlling your anger?!

[@POIUYTREWQ62]

She would have made some excuse about how it was justified like the psychopath she is.

[@TheNitroG1]

Because...clearly she rationally decided to murder them...she just has no morality at all.

[@AlmightyRager95]

And during that bit, it seems like she gets more and more heated as she continues on through it.

[@synnical77]

Uhh, that's the entire point. I can't understand who everyone with rage boners are completely missing the goddam point - she's a flawed character (Tony Stark was too) with room to grow.

[@synnical77]

@@AlmightyRager95 Yes, that's exactly what they were going for. As she's saying she's amazing at controlling her anger she's immediately getting angrier. This is scripted television. It was written that way on purpose....

[@loxul2239]

So let me get this straight for a person like "Dawn"...she complains about women being cat called but then says Hulk needs to "Man up" for his mom being beaten to death by his father? I don't get it. It's a double standard and they're too stupid to see it.

[@budgiecat9039]

Perhaps we can look at it like therapy. The person in question (Dawn) is revealing herself to the therapists (the public) by vomiting her hangups online.

[@mattpace1026]

No, she knows it's a double standard, but she wants a world full of weak men so she can feel more powerful.

[@ButcherGod]

Well when generations of women are told they are only victims and never the problem, this is what we are left with... Self entitlement to levels never known by mankind prior.

[@thefrog4990]

That was very disturbing. Man up? Are you kidding me? His mom was murdered by his own father. But yeah cat calling is way worse.

[@hoppa_2184]

I was shocked too. I mean, how can anyone write this? Everyone has dead people? I mean, having a dead grandma is different from having your mom murdered by your father when you were a little child! I highly doubt she would tell She-Hulk to "man up" if that was her backstory...

[@SpitshineSneakers]

Considering the showrunners admitted that their courtroom scenes are the weakest, I imagine that extends to their understanding of the law as well. We already have She-Hulk committing attempted murder in the first episode, which I REMIND YOU she was fully aware of her actions at the time by her own admission. It can only go downhill from here.

[@KingTai64]

Well lawyers can be crooks themselves anyway.

[@ElmoSVT-40]

brother, I found you.

[@md_vandenberg]

@wonderwaffles *exception

[@kiryls1207]

it’ll actually surprise me if they suddenly decide to flip the script and shed on this show a tragic and dark light (something like Sin City). i’d fucking watch it if they decide to go with some gruesome criminal anti-human shit edit: i know that’s not gonna happen, never with this franchise, but a man can only dream i guess ahah

[@williamharrison2591]

Yep. SheHulk is not heroic but selfish. This is the MSheU's first villianess series.

[@jackpraefortis5293]

In the comics Bruce accidentally killed his own wife Betty with terminal cancer because his body emits gamma radiation and they were trying to have a babe, but yeah, the fear of being called emotional at work is so much worse.

[@24flyingcats84]

That bathroom scene is ridiculous. In my many years of experience as a woman, our public bathrooms are not populated by fairy godmothers. If you walked in looking like that, some women would probably ask if you needed an ambulance, others would presume you were a homeless drug addict, and some would just ignore you.

[@horizonzeromom]

In my 46 years of being a woman, 99% would just ignore you - or just stare enough to make you even more uncomfortable

[@NopeNaw]

the writers very clearly do not live in reality

[@24flyingcats84]

I should add, that the ones who thought you were a homeless addict, would either give you dirty looks and then ignore you, or just completely ignore you.

[@TabalugaDragon]

And the creator of the show considers it the best scene in the show *facepalm*

[@leonevelake]

The bathroom scene would have worked if it stopped at their first line where they where like" damn girl what happend to you?"

[@Rozza2k]

I've worked in construction 13 years and I've never seen one person on any job whistle at a passing woman, I can't stand the stereotype of almost every person in a physical job being portrayed as morons. But I'm an adult and don't cry about it on twitter

[@itsGuy]

Exactly, our crew would never whistle or cat call, but we did talk about the girls and stuff, amongst ourselves. It's normal and girls do exactly the same to us.

[@xminusone1]

I didn't saw any any activists asking about more diversity in theses jobs either. Imagine someone holding a sign that say "more plumbers women" or "more trans industral mechanics" they think that any of theses jobs are worthless but I would be more than happy to see how well society will do with only lawyers, politicians, judges and doctors.

[@ravenID429]

Yeah, that snobbery really shows these people's true colors Or it should, but no one seems to care

[@ravenID429]

@@itsGuy Exactly!!! I can't *stand* it when they whine about oBJeCtiFIcATiOn when they know damn well we do the same thing, it's human nature

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

It stopped in the 1980s. Wokeness ignores history.

[@dominicansolx]

The scene of the "CAT CALLING" is the moment I said screw this show. This came from another comment but it is too good to not share: Bruce's struggles: - My boy Bruce was a human experiment from birth all the way to his childhood - His dad killed his mom. - The father of his first love hunted him down through all of the American continents back and forth. Not to mention the fact he couldn't get stressed in any way (incapable of getting angry or even getting laid). - He started to have a "normal life" in Calcutta, far away from any conflict, to get dragged once again for the greater good and suffer again. - The second love of his life, is dead. - One of his closest friends, is dead. - Being forced by Wanda to destroy an entire city and an immense feeling of remorse after that. - Got trapped in the body of his co-host on another planet for 2 years. - After being stuck in Hulk's body for that long, he didn't even get a second of peace, until Thanos beat his ass. - Watch himself how half the f*cking universe was banished from existence. - Lose an arm to get half of the universe back. - Still being afraid of losing control, and the feeling of guilt of all Hulk's past damage to the human race. - Fear that his beloved cousin has to go through the same ton of crap he went through. She-Hulk's struggles: - Being cat-called in the streets. - Get mansplained in her job. SCREW THIS SHOW.

[@theALTF4]

boy, my poor hulk has passed trough so much suffering...and yet, still one more toxic challenge to tank: a smelly feminist

[@kaynealexander4993]

Liberal white women and their first-world problems, right?

[@sir.t5540]

Also the fact that he tried to kill himself but let's not talk about that

[@MasterIceyy]

In Hollywood there is a memo that gets passed around to the scriptwriters and showrunners that contains a list of things that are unethical to do. Oddly enough one of the most reason ones, stated that it's unethical to have a female character be mentored by a male character. However it's completely fine for a female character to mentor a male character. This is exactly what happened in She-Hulk, Bruce is only in this to suck in viewers and provide the origin story, but he is never actually a mentor to Jen, despite his years of experience and knowledge, he is never actually mentoring Jen at all, no matter how the show tries to portray it. Jen is vastly superior to Bruce in every way, so he has nothing he can actually teach her, and in fact in the end, because she is so much better than him, she becomes his mentor, and guide on how to better himself.

[@admech590]

Also...hulk is the herald of the apocalypse due to the one below all.

[@_General_Grievous__]

In the comics his healing factor is actually better than Wolverine’s and is arguably like top 3 in the Marvel universe

[@SuperHns]

but even as Prof Hulk though?

[@NeroLeMorte]

@@SuperHns yes even as professor hulk so the scene in the show makes no sense at all.

[@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee]

so i would assume the top 3 are, Deadpool, Hulk and Wolverine?

[@johannesseyfried7933]

@@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee Most likely. Also, wasn't Deadpool cursed by Thanos to be unable to die?

[@dancing_odie]

She complains about men explaining her own expertise to her while she's literally explaining anger TO THE HULK!

[@wun1gee]

Because she got catcalled. Hulk (Bite me, autocorrect) had his mother beat to death in front of him, has had multiple love interests die, has had the entire US Government trying to eradicate him, has literally admitted to 'always being angry" and that being a secret... But she gets cat called and that means she's infinitely more angry than him.

[@budgiecat9039]

@@wun1gee When she says infinitely more than him its her belittling him because she thinks he does nothing all day and ran away from his problems in isolation in a remote island in Mexico while she, the superior cousin, faces her problems head on as a successful lawer that has to endure those cat calls and mansplaining male lawyers on a daily basis, and since she can effortlessly control her transformation and she is an 'expert at controlling her anger', she can go back to her normal life and help people in the way she knows as a lawyer. Thats why she even says later by the Jeep: "I'm sorry, my idea of being a superhero is not appealing to me, I'm not you, and I'm not going to become you, I dont need to join some secret government contractor squad and have my entire life taken away from me." Hulk in response: "my life wasnt taken away" Jen "Really? Oh so you didnt wind up ALONE? HIDING away on some remote beach with NO FRIENDS? NO RELATIONSHIPS? NEVER seeing your family and definitely not dealing with a decades worth of TRAUMA? Why would you want that for me Bruce?? You're a CAUTIONARY TALE" There are multiple problems with this scene. It further paints Jen as a narcissist. She throws all that shit at Bruce because she is only thinking about herself. She is not even thinking about others as Bruce obviously does which is why he stays away from others to protect them. Why Peter Parker learned to walk away from Michelle Jones and Ned at the end of Spider-Man NWH. et and it also shows us that the MCU doesnt understand the chracters Jen nor Bruce, and have completely walked away from the subject matter of MPD/DID with Bruce's origin. They didnt even bring up the suicide attempt let alone his father. At the very least she says the word 'trauma' to him but who knows what that could mean to her in context. It could just mean the trauma of being the Hulk after he decided to work with the government and 'hide in Mexico". Notice she didnt say anything about him being on the run from the government for years. Clearly Bruce HID away to Mexico after Infinity War/Endgame not before it, so at that point the government was fine with the Hulk and we even seen Hulk taking selfies with kids so he wasnt necessarily "hiding". And then to finalize that scene, Jen loses her anger, runs Bruce over with his jeep , then punches him in the face, starting a fight. Now this could be the writer/director cleverly trying to show us that Jen is wrong and she cant control her anger, but that'd be giving them too much credit. At the very least, they showed that Jen later on was wrong in her assessment that she was right and Bruce was wrong in the fact that she didnt need to be She-Hulk when she absolutely needed to be She-Hulk when Titania came busting through the courtroom and it took her paralegal to finally convince her but not before carefully removing her precious shoes and worrying about her favorite suit as Titania was beating up people behind her.

[@hillbillymetal1575]

Women: why don't men express there emotions Bruce: my father beat my mother to death Twitter: you need to man up

[@GhostSal]

What the vast majority of women aren’t telling you is “catcalling” bothers them, UNLESS the guy looks like a Chad. So it’s not the action that bothers them, it’s that you dare say something to a woman, if you are an average looking or ugly guy (that is what really bothers them). Also, for us guys, we love it when women call out compliments to us. When I was young and women yelled out hey “handsome” or “guapo” or anything else that was because they liked the way I looked, I was not only ok with it but took it as it was meant (as a compliment even if I didn’t think she was attractive). Now women will say, that’s not the same because us women are afraíd for our sàfety. Except do you know what blew my mind? A women admitted to me that she was followed home by a stranger and really scared… until she turned around and the guy turned out to look like a young “rockstar”. She went on to say that this stranger could have “forced it” and she would have been perfectly ok with it. So the lesson here is, if you’re a guy and a 9 or 10 you can do or say whatever you want. For everyone else walk on eggshells around women.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

@@GhostSal I agree, I have heard so many stories about how looks are everything to these superstitious, primitive beasts known as "modern women". I won't be walking on eggshells around modern females. I won't have anything to do with them, other than soliciting the paid comfort of an escort.

[@eddthehead123]

Women are afraid for their safety. Because men have a magic forcefield that prevents any harm from ever being done to them.

[@markysharkboy0261]

@@GhostSal Makes so much sense with that whole Cameron Herrin thing 😩😩😩 When people on TikTok and Twitter would call out men and attempt to cancel celebrities for the littlest of things but this guy Cameron Herrin decided to street race *ILLEGALLY* mind you and he ran over a *MOTHER* and a *CHILD!!!!!!* When he got his sentence these buffoons are trying to justify what he did by saying that he deserves to be free and he is innocent.

[@stephenblack5425]

Accurate 👍

[@Denien82]

I agree with the comment who said "this might be the first time a young man hears a woman speak candidly about experiences like this". It's true, young men can learn a lot. They can learn that when they meet a woman that start playing the victim card with them, they should be on their guard. And if they had a shitty life (like Bruce) and the woman knows, they can learn what a self-centered, incapable of empathy, narcicist is. Also, they can learn how fast they can run away from that b....

[@ThomasBoyce5000]

There is way too much truth in this states. The most distressing thing is that there are far too many "experts" out there who either "don't understand the correlation" or outright *deny* the fact that feminism, specifically third-wave feminism, has given a staggering rise to the purchase of sex robots and sex dolls, the overconsumption of pornography, seeing romantic connection via AI, listening to guys like Andrew Tate and Kevin Samuels, and even overall giving up on sex altogether. It has also created a surge in hypergamy; Madame Mid belives that she's entitled to the romantic interest of a rich male supermodel. There is another class of many young guys have surrendered and sacrificed their masculinity and became woke beta males in order to have a shadow of a chance to have that romantic connection or the facsimile thereof. Either that, or they end up creating legitimate misogynists and these feminists are far too narcissistic to realize that they've gaslit these young men into these. The feminists's only prescription to all this: double down on their ideology. Get louder and more aggressive and tell males that more needs to be done and there's more fights to be fought against "the patriarchy and toxic masculinity". In any other scenario, anyone with eyes and an IQ roughly around room temperature would call it out for the abuse that it is. It's sad. Edit: I hate how society has had to swing in such a drastic fashion as to radically counterbalance itself.

[@Denien82]

@@ThomasBoyce5000 Of course, because if you're a young man and you actually buy this bs, immagine the reaction when you realize that all you did to be one of the "good ones", actually made you unattractive to women. They'll either give up or get angry, none of which is a desirable state for society in general. That's why is important to call out this stupid stuff, it's not just about a bad tv show.

[@snubbles9991]

"WhO hUrT YoUUU?!!"

[@TubeWatcher]

@@snubbles9991 🤣 bro definitely has been hurt.

[@Metatarsus0]

Women: Men catcall me 😠 Women after 30: Why won't men catcall me?😭

[@KazeMunashii]

Even then, the catcalling was caused by other women. She walks into the bathroom, where the creator says is a 'safe space' for women to find friends or help, but its totally the reverse. They don't help her, they dress her like a 304, give her a makeover then abandon her. Then she walks outside and wouldn't have gotten catcalled if those women didn't make her look like a 304 in the first place. Besides, she works with criminals. In prisons they even catcall Men. You can see it on TV in those prison shows too. Of course if she works with degenerates she'll be catcalled, duh Ms Walter's.

[@chukkinladd]

I'm enjoying the coverage of fans mocking it more than I could ever enjoy the show 🤣 Even She-Hulk won't be able to defeat "The Wall"

[@ip3887]

The Wall tolls for thee too Jen. Seethe away. The Wall is UNDEFEATED! 🐒🍻🤣💀

[@kittycat5972]

@Someguy136 so long as she doesn’t muscle out her feminine features then sure. But to each their own.

[@kiryls1207]

@Someguy136 yeah, ffs who cares about a whiny green karen that got catcalled when she younger and didn’t smash into the wall yet

[@pocketshit]

THAT'S THE WALL BROTHER

[@crawlingboy]

@Someguy136 while i am here to make fun of this horrible version of she hulk lets not go to far as long as a woman does not look like she has roids on roids and looks like a dude more stronk ladies are appreciated

[@rhustoxfordinner]

"Women get talked down to by men". Well, I see plenty of men getting talked down to by women. It's part of life. Those who stand their ground when they should, get respect; those who don't, get ran over

[@bmprimer7809]

@⁺⓵⓸⓪⓸⓽⓼⓻⓪⓵⓺⓵lt'sagundam oh my god oh my god oh my god, work dammit!

[@waylander9265]

I expected the sexism towards men from She-Hulk, what shocked me is the amount of sexist stereotypes of women crammed into the first episode. Our main character is a bad driver, is obsessed with gossiping about peoples’ sex life, cares more about her clothes than the safety of others and who can forget the statement that all women are always angry or afraid. If this is feminism than the patriarchy has won

[@budgiecat9039]

Third wave Feminists are often aloof or obtuse about their own lack of self-awareness, and hypocricy thus ironically revealing said things unwilingly through their works. Notice I specificaly said third wave feminism because this isnt feminism. This is misandry.

[@bryant9774]

This is the new subversive material,it's so ideologically corrupt that the makers were unaware of these feminine tropes being misogynist, they embrace them. This is full circle(snake eating its own tail). It is a simultaneous contradiction of women's empowerment to be more masculine (hulk& career women), while also embracing misogynist stereotypes without irony (being victim,bad driver, emotional etc.) More writers need to do this intentionally, where you end up rooting for the anti hero or all the characters to be punished by life for their ways..

[@Metatarsus0]

That's what Matriarchs get for trying to play in Patriarch sports

[@nvfury13]

Don’t forget the group of women who give her a makeover instead of getting medical help or the cops when they think she was assaulted, because looking good is more important than survival or safety.

[@roseveluofficial401]

@@nvfury13 This scene is supposed to be well written (the writers say it's an important one). It's not, it's horrible. They don't listen to her, rush to dress her like a cheap prostitute, leave her alone - while she's visibly still in shock - in front of the bar where the jerks are. Who does that except pure idiots ? And it's supposed to show sorority ?

[@Metaphorically7]

When she’s explaining how as a woman she’s more accustomed to having to control her anger - you’re talking to a man whose spent the last 15 years wholly focused 24/7 on learning various ways to control his anger and try to stay calm. Because if he doesn’t stay calm, he turns into a walking nuke that could kill hundreds of people without even realizing it. It’s a really stupid thing to say to the Hulk when it’s essentially his whole existence. It’s like telling Captain America that he wouldn’t understand what it’s like to be frozen in time. It is possible (and not that hard) to empower characters without invalidating others. Not sure why Marvel seems unable to grasp that. For example, what ever happened to Bruce being one of the smartest men alive? They’ve turned him into the bumbling comedic relief.

[@Snakedude4life]

“I have a raging monster inside me that endangers my friends and family, alienates me from all true familial ties, and the few people I loved are gone forever.” “Yeah well, I had a stranger tell me I need to smile more.” 🎩 🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

[@joeyjojoshabadoo889]

🚫🦶🐍!

[@quickman2663]

I made the mistake of cancelling my Disney+ account. Now i cannot see this trainwreck unfold. 🐍 Though stepping on Snek was definitely the bigger mistake. 😨

[@ninjabreadman8166]

Leave it to activists who claim to want to make a strong, well-loved, female icon, and take an actually well-loved, strong, female icon from comics, and make her unbearable and unlikable

[@DS-ld8ns]

O.o.o.O a strong women? That isn't strong she wasn't bitching about sexism. That makes you strong duh, pretending you are weaker then others but somehow become brave for speaking out about an imaginery thing makes you strong. You have no idea

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

Yeah Batwoman and She Hulk Two good characters that in their adaptation they give them the worst personality know to man

[@DS-ld8ns]

@@SubZero-hs9xc yeah. perfect. I love the new direction they are headed. Men are the best women ever. duh. You're a transphobe if you think otherwise, Strong women characteristics like nurturing, beauty, smart, adaptable, those things are of the past. The ability to procreate is clearly antifeministic. carrying life is seen as disease. While Men walking around like women is treated like sanity. So glad that Men are then winning in women sports. Women can finally enjoy what it is like to know how awesome Men are at women hood. Cuz Men are awesome at everything.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

They did it to Black Widow in her own movie. I’m not surprised.

[@UltraGalaxyify]

She-Hulk: I get cat-called and suffer from oppression because of it! Twitter: Yas Queen, SLAY!!! Hulk: I watched my father beat my mother to death...after he beat me every day during my childhood Twitter: LOL, man up ya virgin!

[@yostugotz5619]

She-Hulk: “Hard being a women cause I’m catcalled.” Hulk: “I got abused. Chased by the military. Fought aliens from other planets.” Feminist trash.

[@fafafafafafa6879]

Let me get this straight: Bruce hunted by government and losing his relationships with many people and no one cares, and yet Jennifer was catcalled and suddenly they losing their cool?

[@p.r.1308]

Yep and this is the same in our society. Men gets beaten to death or has psychological at an end, no one bats an eye and just get told to 'men up'. I saw a experiment with two Situation: One: men beats a women and is verbal abussing her and people came to their aid. Second: Women does the same to the men and people laught at it. Of course both where played by actors. But it shows that no one cares about men. Less then ever.

[@GhostSal]

What the vast majority of women aren’t telling you is “catcalling” bothers them, UNLESS the guy looks like a Chad. So it’s not the action that bothers them, it’s that you dare say something to a woman, if you are an average looking or ugly guy (that is what really bothers them). Also, for us guys, we love it when women call out compliments to us. When I was young and women yelled out hey “handsome” or “guapo” or anything else that was because they liked the way I looked, I was not only ok with it but took it as it was meant (as a compliment even if I didn’t think she was attractive). Now women will say, that’s not the same because us women are afraíd for our sàfety. Except do you know what blew my mind? A women admitted to me that she was followed home by a stranger and really scared… until she turned around and the guy turned out to look like a young “rockstar”. She went on to say that this stranger could have “forced it” and she would have been perfectly ok with it. So the lesson here is, if you’re a guy and a 9 or 10 you can do or say whatever you want. For everyone else walk on eggshells around women.

[@Yourimaru]

Whos they are you talking to? And Bruce literally loses his cool regularly. That his whole secret that hes always had major anger issues.

[@Eking-su3tr]

But u see, strangers didn't call him hot, so fuk all that shit.

[@jimhoobing]

lol they have easy life and still complain about it and blame men of all their problem as expected of super feminist.

[@jonnywatwong]

I'm genuinely happy there's ones good thing that's come out of all these atrocities, a whole new genre of entertainment. I'm getting some kind of strange pleasure watching all my beloved franchises being systematically destroyed and then spending hours watching all the reviews, reactions etc and it makes me feel like I'm not alone. Thank you.

[@JadeRunner]

I know right? Same thing with me and Halo.

[@theALTF4]

IKR? who needs fucking smelly streaming services, when watching jaded youtubers crap all over those insults-to-their-source properties is twice more entretaining...and FREE

[@fio_lume]

Man, that reminds me of the time when independent reviewers actually had content to praise. not only was the show/movie good, but also you could connect with your fellow fans and movie enjoyers over positive things. ....I feel old and jaded.

[@damiennixel925]

Can't wait to see procrastitara cover this

[@torrancemoore6152]

It's the only kind of joy to be taken from this sort of stuff nowadays

[@silverscorpio24]

Bruce: "I got so low that I tried to swallow a bullet and the Hulk wouldn't let me die." Jenn: "Men talk to me and it's annoying."

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

Bruce: "I am played by Mark Ruffalo" Jenn: "Fuck that's rough"

[@Pokeringo]

@@MaxiemumKarnage Isn't he a lapdog of men haters?

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

@@MaxiemumKarnage "Fuck that's rough... -alo"

[@steelfalconx2000]

Love the fact that she gets mad while explaining how much anger control she has. Plus no one would ever catcall such a dumpy looking woman ffs.

[@henrytownshend6441]

Amen!

[@michielayers3692]

She is literally BELOW average, average implies she is cute. Good looking girls fall into either the cute or beautiful category, she fits in neither.

[@lunerlilly]

When you want to sit there and go... "You know why men loved the original she hulk? It wasn't just because she was hot. She had a great personality, carried herself with normal forms of confidence, gave great advice, and was genuinely kind and caring." This is also why I myself as a woman loved her as a character. I always enjoyed how big sister or motherly she was to her friends or people. Also she carried herself properly as a strong woman. She didn't put men down, men she hung out with just understood she had a strong personality and enjoyed it. She didn't have to be.. for sake of not cursing; rude to them to do that.

[@willlauzon3744]

I am a man and I liked her cause she was hot. Then after reading some of the comics I began to also like the character. But let's not be crazy here, she hulk IS hot.

[@lunerlilly]

@@willlauzon3744 lol hence, "it wasn't just because..." but yeah no she is honestly attractive and she knew it. She carried it well so there's nothing wrong with feeling that way about her. As a woman I can say she was really good at showing young females how to carry yourself with confidence. She was very relatable for young girls and a good example of a strong but nice woman for young boys. So yeah doing what they did to her in this garbage of a show is an insult to her and good women. As well as to Bruce. (Sorry to rant 😆)

[@randomguy-randomness]

As a random guy that doesn't like she hulk....holy crap they ruined her...

[@KillerChickn]

Indeed. I remember her from the Hulk cartoon. She was never as annoying and smug as this.

[@thelastmotel]

It feels to me like this was written by someone who'd heard (from other women) about catcalling, and about guys sometimes hitting on women in public, but who had never experienced it themselves.

[@girthyguitarist7586]

Have you seen the writer? I think you hit a bingo!

[@gamble777888]

It's written by women who hate men because men have no desire to be within hearing distance of them, so they create fictional scenarios where they can complain about how men are awful and come off as victims instead of an the undesirable hags that they truly are.

[@marcwilliams9824]

Exactly. They don't have a problem with catcalling, they have a problem that people don't catcall them.

[@jimmynoneya2584]

My wife and I are both in our early 50s. We sat down to watch this at dinner last night. We got about 15 minutes into it and she had me shut it off saying" this show is stupid this isn't how women are and this surely isn't how men are"

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

You should consider yourself very lucky for having what seems like a well adjusted wife living in the real world instead of in some feminist bubble wasting her time hating on men :-) Congratulations!

[@synnical77]

Do you hang out with female New York Millenial Lawyers much?

[@emulation2369]

@@synnical77 do you? 🤔

[@budgiecat9039]

@@jimsteinmanfan80 Feminist women seem to think all women think like them when it isnt the case at all.

[@somebodysomewhere5571]

Every time my sister watches these shows she becomes more toxic towards any time I try to help her. Because I’m “an incompetent mansplainer”, thanks Disney.

[@incurableromantic4006]

"I'm great at controlling my anger" - she says as she totally loses her shit over minor irritations and while addressing a man who has experienced more pain and trauma than she can begin to imagine.

[@budgiecat9039]

How can she be great at controlling her anger when she almost killed a couple guys outside a bar and also ran Bruce over with his own Jeep and punched him in the face lol

[@ButcherGod]

Well this show embodies feminists to a T, delusional and lies to themselves at every waking moment so they are never the problem, just the victim.

[@thefrog4990]

Yup. Not surprised either. Every feminist character is like this.

[@JohnnyScribe]

“I control my anger when incompetent men explain my job to me… now let me explain to you how having hulk powers work” If these writers had shown an ounce of competency up to this point I’d think they were doing this on purpose.

[@akufuhreal3757]

They traded competence for false virtues

[@johnsavage7507]

They traded writers with competency for writers with boobs.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

it is very clear that writer Dana Schwartz is a man hating feminist but I don't really get the director who has Bruce calmly smiling while Jen gets really worked up explaining how calm she is and this after her trying to take a mans head off at the bar. He - action and dialog match, she - action speaks louder than words and completely contradicts her dialog. I am not sure what emotion the director was trying to ewoke from us the viewers. Are they trying to make Jen as narcissistic and unlikable as possible? in that case why? If the director agreed with the writers of the dialog that men are the scum of the earth and all women are stunning and brave why not make her actions match her dialog and his action contradict his dialog?

[@poijnve3912]

i mean even that line is wrong xD she is a paralegal and who explain to her are literally the lawyers she works for.... her area of expertise isn't even the law haha

[@KillerChickn]

@@jimsteinmanfan80 Perhaps the reason the feminist stuff is so ridiculous and heavy handed is to purposefully poke fun at the tropes? I mean, if you were intentionally writing an annoying feminist female character to intentionally poke fun at feminism, wouldn't you write her to be as silly and ridiculous as She Hulk is in this show? Perhaps they will pay it off by having her character grow and realize she was wrong?

[@evanbohn]

Remember kids; "Objectification" means being perceived as attractive to someone you are not attracted to. Example: Chad doesn't know you exist, but Beta-Billy thinks you're pretty.

[@ecmorgan69]

@@comment_deleted They did the gag much earlier with "Mark Harmon: Dream Gynecologist", and when he became overbooked, his partner was revealed to be Jon Lovitz. 😂

[@thefrog4990]

This. 1000%.

[@moonshineblues204]

When I was 12 I got called by a dude and that was pretty awkward, but after that I've never really been bothered by it. My aunt told me to just say thank you when somebody says that type of stuff and walk away. I feel like most women actually feel good when they get caught. The ones that are complaining about it are the ones that usually aren't being cat called

[@AudioGAWD]

I didn't consider that take at all, interesting.

[@thejohnbeck]

12, I hope that wasn't an adult

[@moonshineblues204]

@@thejohnbeck oh it totally was. I was with my best friend and we did dance and we had just gotten done performing in the Christmas parade so we were in our dance uniforms. (T-shirts and dance shorts) We were very obviously underage but some good old boy in a truck went by and started hollering at us. We were standing outside my friend's Mom's restaurant and she comes busting out the door going "what the hell just happened?" She was coming out to pulverize somebody. We didn't even know how to react so we just stood there. Of course this was back in the 90s, not that that's an excuse but that's just how s*** went back then

[@moonshineblues204]

@@thejohnbeck but don't worry, it didn't affect me or anything, that's why I've clearly forgotten it 😂

[@Zedrapazia]

Sorry but that's SHIT. If an adult catcalls a child, or anyone who's not yet of mature age, that's a pedophile and you shouldn't thank him for it.

[@ionutcristian9650]

You go girl, women go through infinately harder lives than men. Look at all those women construction workers, plumbers, electricians, engineers. The world would literaly come to a stand still without feminists doing the hard things in life.

[@kurama386able]

God I love your sarcasm 🤣🤣🤣 great comment

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

I guess all gang bangers, firefighters and soldiers on active duty must be female as those seem too me to have the most hazardous lifes.

[@Spore9996]

Fucking laughed my ass off at this as a plumber / construction dude.

[@glenfahselt8378]

There is a real possibility that many of those jobs will be open in the next 15 to 20 years. The education system and nutty parents seem destined to soften boys by a large margin. Low testosterone males don't usually take up skilled trades or highly dangerous work. I'm sure there are some male feminist construction workers, and at least one trans plumber, somewhere in the world. However, I wouldn't be expecting low self-esteem, dress wearing-non gender toy toting, boys to build anything greater than a couch cushion safe space.

[@dst3125]

Am a woman carpenter. We are soooooo rare🤣🤣🤣 would love to have a feminst tag along for a day just to see what work looks like!

[@jjeaze]

The gift that keeps on giving in these insane times. Papa Gundam keep em coming!

[@mrbeans2425]

They should just be honest. It's a show by feminists for feminists. And the only difference is, for some unexplainable reason, male objectification is totally OK.... funny how that works isn't it.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

It's like movies without named females talking to others females about other things than men, totally unacceptable. Movies without named males talking to others males about other things than women, totally natural.

[@unknownradiance]

that's different, you don't understand. oppressed can not be the oppressor!

[@mrbeans2425]

@@jimsteinmanfan80 LMAO you mean the Bechdel Test which started out as comic and COMPLETE JOKE and was adopted by Feminists LMFAO. Horrible argument but ok. And ALL that does is indicate whether women are present in works of fiction. You dont even know what t6he rule your talking about is called lol

[@sta5011]

Pespecislly not until women female objectification is illegal on men its completely fine

[@budgiecat9039]

Could you imagine if this were the new Daredevil MCU series and Matt Murdock and Foggy were chilling at a bar or driving in a car, debating on whether or not Natasha, aka the Black Widow, who sacrificed her life to save half the universe, was a virgin or not, based on the fact she was never in a public relationship and was too busy to because of her work and its a shame she died if so and did not have kids because 'her ass was so fine"? Yeah, imagine how well that "joke" would have come off. If feminists dont like certain things men say to women that they find 'objectified', then they should probably not try to be hypocrites about it with the whole double standard thing.

[@benmasta5814]

"I'm such a fucking amazing person the world owes me." That's the vibe I get lmao

[@Apopcyp]

Nothing about her is strong. When I think of the MCU and a strong character, I think of Cap’s sacrifice by flying into the sea, I think of Natasha begging Clint to go back to his family and sacrificing herself, tony stark dying to save the world, Peter Parker saving the life of vulture, Peter Quill looking at Gamora, the woman he loves, in the eye, respecting her wishes, and fully intend on ending her life- other little moments come to mind but Marvel keeps butchering female characters (even after death like black widow). A strong character should be based off of their words and actions, which is why I relate to more of the male characters than the female ones. As a woman, I wish the MCU wouldn’t demonize traditionally feminine traits. It seems every strong female character is just a selfish, physically capable, overpowered, girl boss- to the point where if these same characters were men they wouldn’t be praised but labeled for being toxically masculine. Give me a realistic woman who struggles to achieve her goals, who is kind towards others, who doesn’t put the men around her down to raise herself up. I would kill for a female character who gets her shit rocked and has to learn defeat and how to adapt to fight. Mulan did this perfectly in the 90’s! I don’t idolize the woman who is perfect and gets everything right on the first go. I look up to the woman who has developed and over come the impossible, who works hard, and isn’t overly cocky about it. I loved game of thrones before they rushed the ending. You had strong women characters who kept their traditionally feminine qualities and used them to gain power. No one hated on the show when Daenerys rose to power, she’s a universally loved character; Cersei is scary as fuck and most fans regard her as cruel but clever. Margery, Ollena, Cat Stark, Sansa- were all fiercely loyal to their families, kind (for the most part) and were powerful women who were respected. I had so many issues with season 8- but none of them had to do with two women being the most powerful characters on the show. Two queens were commanding large armies in a time period where women were viewed as property and no one had any issue with it. Because it was written well and made sense for the story, because the fans loved these characters not because they were girl bosses- they are just good characters. People need to stop claiming it’s sexist to criticize female characters. It’s sexist not to criticize them. This character is poorly written and comes off as a dick. The fact that she’s a woman has zero to do with my distaste towards her.

[@jamstagerable]

I don't believe this could be expressed any better! I usually loose interest halfway through long KZbin comments, but with yours, I found myself hoping it didn't end lol. ✌🏾

[@timpowell3375]

Preach!

[@mrcsee6936]

amen

[@dsmyify]

The best female character in the MCU, the MCU before, was Nebula. What a character arc she had. She was tore apart, rebuilt, living in fear, and seeking approval .... eventually saved the universe when she literally and symbolically kills herself (her previous self) in Endgame. Nebula was/is the same 'bad ass female' as Ripley, Vasquez, Conner, Vrataski and all the other female leads that everyone loves and nobody complains about.

[@roseveluofficial401]

I liked the Marvel/Netflix women. Jessica Jones, Karen Page, Vanessa, Colleen or Misty,... Real characters with an arc and good interactions, not just dumb platforms.

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

…so forget a perfect specimen of a woman, loving, kind, could break a skyscraper with one hand, actually act competent in a court room, witty, SELF AWARE and even enjoys it sometimes; all while making feminism welcoming and any man would strive to be better while she shows some respect (as she already has ours from the start)? Yep, I’m a bigot. A REAL She-Hulk simping bigot. Not this “Scree-Hulk” though, she can fall off a cliff…

[@mad4song01]

I’d prefer punched off a cliff…and for her not to come back.

[@NixLotus]

Unfortunately falling of a cliff won’t kill her. Happened in episode 1 and just shrugs it off 😂

[@latt.qcd9221]

She-Hulk: "I'M AN EXPERT AT CONTROLLING MY ANGER!!!!!!" Hulk: *silently nods*

[@TheLargeHardonCollider]

Seriously what were they thinking with that scene. I can't tell what's worse, the writing or the bad acting. She becomes visibly flustered and starts raising her voice, and this is the scene that's supposed to convince us she's actually in control always?

[@QueenAleenaFan]

@@TheLargeHardonCollider bad writing by far, I think the actress was actually trying to go for some sort of complex angle. But no matter how good the actor is if the director and the writer have no idea what they're doing, you're fucking screwed

[@voicemonkey3886]

Jennifer: “Incompetent men explaining my area of expertise to me.” As Jennifer claims she’s better at controlling emotions and better at handling Hulk powers in a week than Bruce Banner who has had these powers for 15+ years.

[@deathstrokeclanrules8562]

"Girls are not the violent ones in our society" And yet we constantly see them as such in most shows/movies these days.

[@az_3kgt714]

its more like women are allowed to be violent and men aren't.

[@sacha8uk]

Johnny Depp might have something to say about that.

[@jeffjones7108]

The violence against children stats disagree. And that's what gets reported. God knows how much violence goes on in those single mother households behind locked doors.

[@KingOfTheNigglys]

Women unalive children at a higher rate than men, but women automatically get custody and benefits

[@aguyfromnothere]

Feminism is women aspiring to be men and not feminine.

[@snugglestruggle8437]

She-Hulk: "I'm great at controlling my anger..." Just a bit earlier in her first transformation, She-Hulk almost murdered two men who simply asked her how she was doing, these two men were not cat calling but simply walking up and asking her if she is okay because she was clearly showing signs of distress. If it wasn't for Hulk, She-Hulk would have murdered two innocent men almost immediately, and She-Hulk's mentality is somehow those two men showing concern makes them the epitome of evil, and somehow deserving death?! Yeah, First World Problems are not relevant, the purpose of this show directly ignores real world issues and hyper focuses on regressive ideology to make pop culture statements and modern era statements that will make no sense in a couple months. The two men were not cat calling, that wasn't done as suggested by the writers and directors. But even so, they didn't deserve to be destroyed for coming to Jen and asking if she was alright, I'd argue She-Hulk directors and writers all but defined why She-Hulk has a SEVERE anger issue she must overcome prior to ever entering society again. It's blatant disparity in thought, complete cognitive dissonance, and in 2 months a lot of this show won't even make sense to people seeing how the majority of the show is surrounding pop culture instead of practical matters of logic and common sense.

[@Neeeg]

Someone made a great point about the irony of She-Hulk womansplaining “controlling anger” to The Hulk.

[@pustulio81]

She was unnecessarily cruel to Hulk that whole time spent in Mexico. He tries to help her and she literally tells him she isn't going to let being a Hulk ruin her life like he did and proceeds to belittle him by calling him a loner that hides in bar and has no friends. He's literally trying to make sure she doesn't suffer like he did and her response is to berate him and use personal attacks.

[@tiaferguson8848]

I JUST finished watching episode one with my cousin....it was painful. We winced. We sighed. We darn near cried. When it was all over, we sat in silence and I couldn't turn it off fast enough. I dont even know if there is a post credit scene. I knew it was gonna be bad but GOODNESS! IT WAS TERRIBLE!

[@chadsaturday3300]

I'm so sorry for what you had to go through (I'm being sincere here) but yes it really is that terrible and it'll only go down hill from here 😔

[@MXdemex]

There was an after credit scene.. and it was a joke about how captain America was NOT a virgin. Sooo funny..

[@thefrog4990]

I don't blame you lol

[@tiaferguson8848]

@@MXdemex thank you for letting me know i didn't miss anything. 😅😅😅

[@tiaferguson8848]

The funny thing is, I only watched it to see my cousin's reaction. She has a 3 episode rule for every show to give it a chance. I claimed that no chance is needed because the mcu has released a steady stream of crap throughout phase 4. I thought if I watched it with her, we could have a good laugh together.... Please keep us in your prayers. That cgi bag of hot cheetos will forever haunt my dreams

[@AvengerII]

Amazing how feminist women are literally setting back motion pictures DECADES in characterization. No subtlety in the writing at all. And you can't portray people as human beings but puppets like the lady in that Carlson clip. She's the one educating your kids, folks! You really think the world's a better place with people like her in high positions of authority? She seemed like a particularly unstable person to me.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

We have hade people with better characterization overcoming obstacles and growing as a result in fairy tales for thousands of years and in Marvel comics over 60 years so I would say that having characters being completely Mary Sues and all only fighting the patriachy but never growing as persons because of it sets back characterization at least five thousand years but probably much much longer than that.

[@kittycat5972]

You could tell by the frantic way she speaks, plus the crazy eyes are also a dead give away.

[@GameBeatenakaKevinS]

She seemed like she was constantly having a severe mental breakdown.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Doll houses

[@sta5011]

They ruin every media they consume thats what they are a pair of rabid dogs

[@viljamtheninja]

I wouldn't mind a show about a superhero with freakish strength trying to handle every day situations where freakish strength doesn't help. It could be a pretty good comedy setup, but yeah, these people aren't talented people trying to create good entertainment, it's propaganda. Edit: love how the "oh no she's been abused" scene had to preface itself by saying "no judgment" because we don't want to kink shame physical abuse in relationships. At least that's what it sounded like it was going for.

[@waylander9265]

Her extreme change in strength isn’t even considered by the writers. She is literally a hundred times stronger, her every movement should be packing an excessive amount of force, but she can handle it perfectly because the writers don’t care about superheroes

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

Well yeah, everyone loves Spider-Man.

[@protorhinocerator142]

@@waylander9265 More like 4000 times stronger. In She-Hulk form she can lift (press) about 100 tons. Assuming the average woman of Jennifer's build can lift (press) about 50 pounds over her head. Jen would have to lift (press) 1 ton in normal form to be only 100 times stronger. I think Spider-Man is 100 times stronger than normal Peter Parker. That's still a lot, but She-Hulk is much stronger.

[@mitchellalexander9162]

You mean just....Ace Lightning with a Better Plot?

[@viljamtheninja]

@@waylander9265 Exactly. If they wanted to do a down-to-earth show about everyday life problems for a superhero, they have all sorts of comedic scenes that practically write themselves when her super strength becomes a bit of a practical problem because she's not used to it. And it could also cause some serious tension and drama if, say, she accidentally hurts someone she cares about. But we don't want flawed characters that have to grow and overcome challenges, apparently.

[@goawaypleasethanks]

I'm no comic buff but Hulk is slowly becoming one of my favorite characters. The dude's story just snaps my heartstrings.

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

This show has made it crystal clear to me that these types of writers NEED to hate on men. It’s part of their identity. It’s not enough to show how amazing women are. It’s not enough to have a protagonist whose brilliant and funny and beautiful (quote unquote) and who is a lawyer/superhero. They HAVE to explicitly say how horrible and sexist men are. Why? Because they don’t actually want to write about how amazing women are, they want to write about how much _better_ women are then men. They have virtually no redeeming values to offers. It’s nothing but entitlement and validation through literal misandry.

[@GhostSal]

What the vast majority of women aren’t telling you is “catcalling” bothers them, UNLESS the guy looks like a Chad. So it’s not the action that bothers them, it’s that you dare say something to a woman, if you are an average looking or ugly guy (that is what really bothers them). Also, for us guys, we love it when women call out compliments to us. When I was young and women yelled out hey “handsome” or “guapo” or anything else that was because they liked the way I looked, I was not only ok with it but took it as it was meant (as a compliment even if I didn’t think she was attractive). Now women will say, that’s not the same because us women are afraíd for our sàfety. Except do you know what blew my mind? A women admitted to me that she was followed home by a stranger and really scared… until she turned around and the guy turned out to look like a young “rockstar”. She went on to say that this stranger could have “forced it” and she would have been perfectly ok with it. So the lesson here is, if you’re a guy and a 9 or 10 you can do or say whatever you want. For everyone else walk on eggshells around women.

[@NopeNaw]

Absolutely right. You know the whole nonsense with "punch up, not down"? That's what these hacks think they're doing.

[@rookievideos8865]

Ironically, by doing so they're displaying the hallmarks of a massive inferiority complex.

[@josh885]

@@GhostSal Exactly. Fact is she's attracted to the guy too than catcalling is flirting and that flower he left on her desk is a "cute romantic gesture" instead of sexual harassment she gets him fired for. The only exception is if the guy is rich and she knows it. Resources trump looks every time. Like the famous trump recording that was more truth than our society could handle. So the media and almost all women and even a lot of men spun him talking about how if you have money as man women will do almost anything sexual with you to "hur dur Trump's a rapist who grabs women's genitals." Fact is women are just as shallow as men when it comes to what they find attractive they just have done a better PR job about it for the last 100 years. And men who were programmed from birth by their mothers to seek female approval at all costs just went along with the narrative. And here we are. Crazies out of touch with reality are running everything.

[@NeroLeMorte]

Compare this thrash show compared to jessica jones and agent carter and how they actually treat their female leads with actual respect and subtlety.

[@phillawrence5148]

There will be a reckoning for all these misandrists. They're just full of hate. How is pointing out anti male propaganda mysoginistic exactly?

[@quickman2663]

It's for the same reason, back in the 1940s, that if you're German and you criticise N@zi propaganda, you are evil in their eyes.

[@Nfshotpursuitking]

Because in this day and age, holding women accountable makes you a sexist incel. Source; Made the mistake of living with 2 feminazis for 2 years and the moment I stopped enabling their toxicity and actually held them accountable for their actions, was called every ist and phobe under the planet and was kicked out without being given my proper 30 day notice

[@FoNgThOnG]

It's sooooo hilarious how she spends so much time ridiculing Cap for being a virgin. I mean, lets just ignore the fact that he gave his life to stop a weapon of mass destruction from killing people, constantly puts himself in harms way to stop terrorists, fights against a Mad Titan, and more...But lets make fun of him because he was a virgin before he joined the military. And I don't get how changing She-Hulks origin to "oops blood got into my wound lawls now i'm a hulk and better than old hulk" was a better choice lol

[@Lefty217]

Because they have rules now that women can't receive help from men.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

Feminists always have to belittle incels. When you have no empathy it probably seems funny to laugh at the most unfortunate, it wouldn't surprise me if they find wounded soldiers hilarious too when they need therapy to be able to walk.

[@marcusrimson6330]

Cause they couldn't let Hulk be helpful to a woman obviously

[@budgiecat9039]

How come Jennifer doesnt ask this same question about Natasha aka Black Widow either? Since she too died to help save the world and never was in a pubic relationship? Or Bucky? Or Sam Wilson aka Falcon aka new Captain America aka we've never actually seen Sam Wilson with a woman either? Or Rhodey aka War Machine? I'll tell you why Because Natasha is a woman so HOW DARE YOU SIR Bucky was once villain (even though it wasnt his fault) Sam and Rhodey are Black so HOW DARE YOU SIR and last of all, Steve, was a 90 lb beta incel looking wealking before he turned into Captain America; now Jennifer shouldnt know that, but the writers and director of She-Hulk knew that since they saw the Captain America movie, so its "funnier" to throw the virgin 'joke' at him since he obviously could not have gotten laid before he turned into Cap. So hence the writers and director of She-Hulk are toxic female hypocrites.

[@jb-gt8oi]

seems like people are forgetting the incredible hulk is canon cause there was like three examples of people becoming a hulk stan lee with contaminated soda with a drop of banner blood, emile getting orignal/synthetic banner blood tranfused and the other scitenist who gets his head cut open then drips of banner blood falling on his head.

[@baboin1851]

I like how angry she got when talking to the Hulk about how she can control her anger.

[@kealebogamolo6685]

I feel that version of She Hulk genuinely despises her cousin for some reason and was actually projecting her lack of emotional control and internalised misandry on to Bruce but Bruce being the kind, understanding and emotionally well adjusted cousin he is he lets her spew out all that unwarranted anger because he knows she has to let it out otherwise her Hulk side takes ovee so he willingly takes her bullshit to make sure she is not as destructive Hulk like he was. Not having to be hunted by the military or falling down so hard she wants to eat a bullet like he tried. So Bruce Banner is the true hero and She Hulk in this series is the sad, angry little person.

[@txag007]

Over/under of the number of cats she adopts before the series is over is set at 8....

[@WorldWalker128]

Headcanon accepted, but I doubt the writers actually thought about any of that.

[@LcieKJ]

"Hulk needs to map up" LMAO. They tell you to be a man then they tell you its toxic to be more sensitive. you cant win this cruel game.

[@DS-ld8ns]

Don't listen to what they say. then you win. We only started to care what people thought and look at the world? what happens when we go back to not caring? world becomes sane.

[@ElGreco15]

Hulk need to minor attracted persons up? Sounds like the next Marvel show on Disney+

[@taags]

Thats why you dont play it. You just mock feminists. They will die alone.

[@Xolcm]

“I yearn for true gender equality. I have no patience for one who talks about female privilege when it suits them, and then complains about someone not being a man when it's convenient.” Kazuma Satou

[@primedarkking10]

@@Xolcm Kazuma the goat

[@inanimatesum4945]

Already expected a whole episode of preaching their message when they actually tried to argue a newbie paralegal would have been more competent than their lawyer who was clearly with the team for a lot longer than her. They showed NOTHING to prove otherwise, so why would we even believe she's capable?

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

Well, if you paid attention you have known why the paralegal was a better a choice. Vagina!

[@budgiecat9039]

And then not only that but why was Jen reciting her closing statement then? Who was she trying to convince if she was so dismissive of her superior? Her paralegal? Why? She's not her boss or superior lol

[@ButcherGod]

Because "Mary Sue" is the only playbook they know for character development. I don't think the world has ever had as many "One Note Hacks" working in the industry than these days... I just want to know if Feminism will actually be the death of Hollywood, lioe it honestly crumbles and some other country becomes the "Movie Capital" of the world, Deservingly so.

[@penguinjay]

@@ButcherGod Filming TV shows in Georgia was the new Hollywood for a while. Korea is now putting out better stuff. Hollywood will always have their captive audience of cuda faygits though, they won't crash and burn except for from the average bystander's viewpoint.

[@ryzekiv7147]

Because his advice was “Try smiling” and “I think it would sound better from me” Shulk dismissed the guy because he was a d*ck. If the advice he gave was constructive criticism, then…

[@ignacioruiz-retegui6196]

Man, those comic book panels made me feel the dialogue. In the show it looks easy cause he already has the Hulk under control but in that picture, he still struggles and she supports him well, while having no problems with her new powers.

[@kristofgriffin384]

I miss it when She-Hulk was allowed to be a character, not just a mouth-piece for insecure women.

[@ip3887]

A fiery astute take.🎯🥇🔥🔥🔥

[@qwertyuiopqwerty112]

I just love how Hollywood is showing to everyone just how fragile, intolerant and how lack in mental fortitude women are. The whole show is trying to say what the struggles of women are, but not realising its coming across like a prince saying how hard life is that his servants doesn't curtsey enough, to a starving man.

[@budgiecat9039]

Those same people its showing are ignoring it though, and trying to state the arguments on this show and other newer fails of Hollywood are only showing the 'fragile male ego' of the people ranting on said Hollywood works. So its never going to be solved.

[@Nagadirchan]

Please do not bag these whiny bitches with normal women I hate that instead of showing a female pushing through and showing that she can do shit on her own (actual empowerement), they need to have someone whine all the time how things are unfair. Life is unfair so take a freaking action and stop whining! Especially if there are actual females with way worse life then some US attorney. Would be bomb if they just got inspired by Camille Vasquez but I guess they can't show an actual inspirational successfull woman in such a field because apparently it is run by males only.

[@followertheleader]

Me 2008: The Hulk is amazing and scary. Me now: Look at how they massacredy boy.

[@jeffjones7108]

It's because he's green. They wouldn't dare do this to him if he were black.

[@asain3586]

@@jeffjones7108 Hahaha, good one dude

[@UltimegaSeven]

Its beautiful really. She hulk is one of my favorites and I knew from the second I saw her CGI face that they would fuck it up. And I was not disappointed. The lack of any good writing, the jokes are flat, and the fact that Wanda still exists the way she is, even given her own movie; its too majestic in its mediocrity to put into words

[@RachelScalfani]

Ugh, I love She Hulk. Why did they do this to her? She got the Batwoman treatment.

[@Krysnha]

The only treatment they know

[@johnsavage7507]

Wait till she realizes she is a lesbian.

[@ADAJ342]

Ay, this genuinelly hurts, specially since this is probably the only version of she-hulk people will ever watch.

[@Clint52279]

I've certainly never cat-called a woman, and I've never seen it happen. Granted, I dont go to big cities very often which is were I assume these things happen. However, considering its one of the top things women are complaining about these days you'd think I would've seen it once over the years.

[@lexnight8345]

Sometimes happens in big cities I have a firnd who has been cat called because she's a cutie but still she's not going around blaming all men and whatever... also is strange that the women who seem to complain about so cat calls are not even worth looking at

[@DrunkJackal]

Would Catwoman like to be cat-called? 🤔

[@lexnight8345]

@@DrunkJackal yes she's kinky as fk

[@gideonjones5712]

I mean the only couple times I've ever actually seen it, it was a group of teenagers who just didn't have anything better to do. Not really a threat to anyone, just a mild annoyance because they were clearly just trying to show off while also being too cowardly to actually talk to the people they were calling at

[@hassathunter2464]

It seems most woman complaining about catcalling seem very very unlikely to EVER be catcalled. It's probably just jealousy.

[@BigBossIvan]

State-approved messaging in my superhero films continues to be so entertaining and refreshing. I love knowing exactly how every story will play out before it's told. Really helps me get out of bed in the morning before I apologize for my disgusting, hateful genitals.

[@Marinealver]

Spoiler Alert "THE MESSAGE"

[@spookydoge1281]

9:17 "I'm good at controlling my anger" *PROCEEDS TO GET ANGRY*

[@zuzoscorner]

"We don't know how to write lawyers" me : "gosh it a good thing your writing a lawyer show then"

[@craigime]

lol they hire anybody

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

It doesn't seem they read comic books either but yet they have somehow landed a job writing a lawyer show about a comic book character. Go figure.

[@SupaFlyJedi]

Tim Pool put the feminism thing the best: "Overexaggerates and overreacts," She overexaggerates her daily life (the catcalls and such), and overreacts (goes Hulk) because she believes her own crap when faced with a mildly inconvenient situation..

[@badlaamaurukehu]

*Histrionics

[@johnstrawb3521]

*Feminism: **_the Art of taking the ordinary, unavoidable pain of life and attributing it all to being a woman._* Then claiming you have it so much worse when according to most measures women fare better than men in nearly every area relevant to well-being.

[@ecmorgan69]

@@badlaamaurukehu More like *Her-Trionics. 😁

[@brok56]

@@johnstrawb3521 Lets have a feminist compare Her life To that of a coal mining man.

[@idaniluz652]

She speaks about how good she is controling her anger, yet she list it in the bar scene. Also Bruce went through so much more. Jennifer is probably my most hated mcu character.

[@MG-je5xq]

I didn't watch anything on She Hulk, reviewing the show because I saw you put out a video on it. I knew that you were going to make it very in depth and do a great job. Thank you!

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Woman gets whistled at: *omg this is proof we're living in a patriarchy!* Man is the victim of domestic abuse: *mAn Up!!1!1*

[@Kradily]

" the people who come up with ideas like this are just the most unhappiest people in the world. " Mom heard that and literally snorted laughing at it saying it so true xD

[@budgiecat9039]

Jesus I cant stand Tucker Carlson but that woman he was interviewing was insane she even had the crazy eyes lol

[@budgiecat9039]

@Effort Less It was in this video dude

[@ForeverLaxx]

I like that she thinks dealing with minor annoyances and dismissive people makes her "better at handling anger" than a guy who's tried to off himself multiple times without being allowed to succeed because Big Green prevents it.

[@julianzabala9010]

You know, usually this is one of those ocasions in which I would get angry at very obviously biased people calling the show trash based on just one fucking episode, but MAN this is a low blow. I thought "hey She-Hulk's a fun character surely they can get her right!", but it's like they're actively TRYING to ruin her. That said, there's still 5 more episodes, I'm hoping they can come back from this.

[@Reishadowen]

"All of us are somehow running around with this invisible blanket of privilege, and I'd like to return mine because it doesn't seem to be working! I swear I keep trying to use it, and it just backfires!" X'D Thank you, you've made my day.

[@collegerebel]

"Bruce needs to man up and get over it" made me feel like I had an aneurysm.

[@budgiecat9039]

I like to give humanity the benefit of the doubt and say no one someone could literally type that in earnest and be that insane but we are currently living in Clown World so sadly its possibly she wasnt trolling and was actualy trying to be serious...' I mean "MAN UP"? the sheer irony of that term being used there when she is ranting about sexism in the workplace and cat-calling and how those issues are somehow more detrimental than a traumatic death in front of you coupled with child abuse is hilarious; that should be nornally a red flag giveway of a troll job, but again you never know with these people...

[@Acueil]

Wanna bet that soy brainlet also claim to fight against gender norms?

[@GhostSal]

What the vast majority of women aren’t telling you is “catcalling” bothers them, UNLESS the guy looks like a Chad. So it’s not the action that bothers them, it’s that you dare say something to a woman, if you are an average looking or ugly guy (that is what really bothers them). Also, for us guys, we love it when women call out compliments to us. When I was young and women yelled out hey “handsome” or “guapo” or anything else that was because they liked the way I looked, I was not only ok with it but took it as it was meant (as a compliment even if I didn’t think she was attractive). Now women will say, that’s not the same because us women are afraíd for our sàfety. Except do you know what blew my mind? A women admitted to me that she was followed home by a stranger and really scared… until she turned around and the guy turned out to look like a young “rockstar”. She went on to say that this stranger could have “forced it” and she would have been perfectly ok with it. So the lesson here is, if you’re a guy and a 9 or 10 you can do or say whatever you want. For everyone else walk on eggshells around women.

[@vithepiltoverenforcer8778]

Honestly, the very worst part of all this is that those hack writers will only fail upwards from this.

[@TheSteelGavel]

Sometimes I find myself pausing a show, pondering the infinite options for how a scene could have played out, and lamenting the poor choices made. But what's worse is that somewhere there is a writer who got denied this job for "reasons" and who now gets to watch a "better" candidate fumble the script of a multi-million dollar IP. Catcalls? Incompetent coworkers? Really, my dude?

[@anniehopkins8470]

"I'm sensing a pattern... and it's called misogyny" It's no different than when someone says a statement is "racist"... I always tell them... "Don't ask if statement is racist... ask if it's true or not" Black Widow was indeed mediocre Ms. Marvel was indeed made for children Wanda Maximoff was indeed unredeemable Mighty Thor is more difficult to argue... as "agendas" can be tough to pin down or verify... but the creators and stars were pretty darn vocal about their intent so... 50/50 She Hulk seems to be "anti-men" but I haven't seen it in completion... so we shall see... but the writings on the wall. Just calling people "misogynistic" or whatever else... simply because you don't like their comment... doesn't make the comment "not true"... the only "pattern" that I see is rhetorical slander of commenters who make mostly accurate assessments of these shit products. That pattern is predictable on a scientific level

[@GhostSal]

What the vast majority of women aren’t telling you is “catcalling” bothers them, UNLESS the guy looks like a Chad. So it’s not the action that bothers them, it’s that you dare say something to a woman, if you are an average looking or ugly guy (that is what really bothers them). Also, for us guys, we love it when women call out compliments to us. When I was young and women yelled out hey “handsome” or “guapo” or anything else that was because they liked the way I looked, I was not only ok with it but took it as it was meant (as a compliment even if I didn’t think she was attractive). Now women will say, that’s not the same because us women are afraíd for our sàfety. Except do you know what blew my mind? A women admitted to me that she was followed home by a stranger and really scared… until she turned around and the guy turned out to look like a young “rockstar”. She went on to say that this stranger could have “forced it” and she would have been perfectly ok with it. So the lesson here is, if you’re a guy and a 9 or 10 you can do or say whatever you want. For everyone else walk on eggshells around women.

[@Soft_Ghost]

Black Widow wasn't mediocre. It was shit. Pure, steaming hot shit.

[@VoidStar.]

1:36 Wait... she's including the "wanda is unredeemable" in that list? But, isn't that literally the canon conclusion of her character? She literally turned evil and then (SPOILER) sacrificed herself to destroy the evil she had been consumed by... she judged herself as irredeemable. The canon Wanda is a monster and will always be a monster. That's not a misogynistic take. That's the actual ethical & moral lesson to her entire character arc. That good people can experience tragedy and become an evil they never imagined. That a woman can be so devastated that she becomes a monster. Her very nature was denied and then twisted. Good lord... no wonder every movie is afraid to have nuance anymore.

[@sprnightfire]

Stuff like this makes me glad I grew up with the Marvel 90s. We had great comics, cards, cartoons, video games and more. The Incredible Hulk and She-Hulk cartoon was great. She-Hulk was a very likeable character. I absolutely hate what they did to her in this series.

[@irateastartes1206]

I shudder in fear at what they are going to do to my X-Me… I mean The Mutants (almost gendered someone there that gets you sent to the Gulags) you just know they’re going to make everybody gay and poc.

[@JackCarregan]

This hulk Started out really strong. When he fought loki "puny god", or in Ragnarok he was great too. So to see him reduced to this pathetic nonsense hurts.

[@foxbow3889]

It's for the greater good, you see, one of the writers of the show was paid by a blue hairde with girl on twitter xd