She Hulk is GREAT

[@diggdirkler9445]

I'm glad someone finally acknowledged what ive been saying awhile, kamala hurting her dad's feelings was straight up evil

[@Can_non69]

It was straight up teenager u dipwad

[@theonewhoskates8411]

As an Indian kid with a grandfather that has a similar personality, I could never

[@Damienp3902]

@@theonewhoskates8411 What she do?

[@xsanguine8]

@@Damienp3902 She told him she would be embarrassed to be seen in public with him.

[@theonewhoskates8411]

@@Damienp3902 her dad prepared an entire homemade hulk costume so he could go with her to this superhero convention and she made fun of him/rejected him.

[@getschwifty5537]

No you were right about the Jenn form drunkenness, Hulk form immunity. The scene from episode 2 where she's in the bar basically confirms it. She walks in as She-Hulk, consumes who knows how much alcohol, and is talking to her boss just fine in that form. He demands she revert to Jenn form and BOOM, instant drunkard. Her Hulk metabolism hadn't burned it all out yet and now she has a normal human metabolism while trying to have a serious conversation.

[@TheShadowchiefstudio]

The wedding ep too, she gets absolutely slosjed, but Hulking out clears everything up

[@pathevermore3683]

@@TheShadowchiefstudio the date episode's opening montage where she prepares for her date with josh by taking a shot. child of an alcoholic, i am used to noticing these things.

[@WhyWeWatch1]

Steve can’t even get buzzed right? He feels nothing from alcohol?

[@DrewLSsix]

But there's still the weird hangover at the tiki bar, she drank in Hulk form all night apparently and Jen form got a hangover from it. That probably shouldn't have been a thing, and if it were a thing reverting to Hulk would un do the issue. She has no need to be in Jen form so why not stay in Hulk form for an indefinite period until the headache is gone.

[@1monki]

And what Bruce-Hulk said was true because he just stays Smart-Hulk, but She-Hulk turns back into Jen when she sleeps. Smart-Hulk won't wake with a hangover, but Jen will

[@porkchopsensei2742]

Small nitpick: nobody has mentioned the Khonshu vs Ammit kaiju fight because only Moon Knight, Harrow, and maybe Layla were able to see it. That's how they operated in the rest of the show, and I don't believe we ever see civilians react to it. Sure, they rough some things up in the fight, like the truck Ammit grabs with her tail, but so did the Jackal in the museum, and it didn't even show up on cameras.

[@geekroom2365]

What about the part in the last episode when a bunch of Ammit's followers start extracting people's souls and feeding them to her? I'd think that at least should garner some attention

[@AdrowFigens]

​@@geekroom2365 this happened in Egypt. I am sure media around the area would be talking about it. But American Media wouldn't really notice it so in pretty much every other show it wouldn't be mentioned. I will say that they should have said something about it in Thor L+T

[@erubin100]

people still should've been able to see buildings and other things getting wrecked.

[@porkchopsensei2742]

@@erubin100 nobody saw the jackal destroying things in the museum

[@YdaxraTala]

@@porkchopsensei2742 Hence why the main security guard thought Steven was making stuff up, and the boss fired him (not entirely sure if it was because she thought he was just slacking and potentially trying to damage and/or steal museum property). Also, those who knew what was going on were sided with Harrow and/or had connection to elements involving Egyptian Deities. Even Steven thought he was just imagining things at first, he had dealt with sleeping problems before which is why I like the fact they used Day N Night for the trailer. Sleep Deprivation can lead to paranoia, sometimes micro-sleeps and potentially hallucinations - starting to see, hear and feel things that aren't actually there. I have suffered with Insomnia for years and still am working on fixing my sleeping these days. I appreciate the show depicting stuff similar to what I've experienced, minus the mythology and super hero stuff.

[@alessandropereira4976]

Wanda slaving a whole town I can handle, but I draw the line on Kamala making her dad sad. Worst scene ever

[@Hexamath]

Jesus…

[@manuam98]

Yes

[@PeterParker-ff7ub]

ok sure

[@cosygoose1813]

So many issues with this. One Wanda did it by accident by her own trauma and is pretty much the entire show telling you that. Kamala snapping at her dad while I did enjoy the majority of the show, that was a moment that made me less sympathetic to the character. And Wanda was supposed to be seen as bad.

[@TheLocalCreatorMan]

@@cosygoose1813 i don't think you can "accidentially" enslave an entire town.

[@ZephyrBW]

Most people really don’t know the comics. In the comics she needed the blood transfusion to save her life even though Bruce knew there was a chance it could have an effect on her. But still did it to save her after that she liked being she hulk because she always felt like a wallflower

[@Reikotsu]

Now that the show has ended as it did, I really wanna hear your take on it.

[@geo_licious]

the ending 💀

[@ourcoasterlove5272]

Same... but I also agree with what he said here

[@Daniel-rp7nb]

Yes - really wish this was on the whole season - as I loved it up to the finale - and that really ruined it

[@ethankillion786]

I like the fact that she hulk doesnt have high stakes. It's just a monster of the week kind of deal When it's a shared universe, you know for sure that any "world ending threat" isn't truly world ending.

[@philemard6183]

“Monster of the week” but they haven’t had a villain

[@edwinlaws9625]

I agree that every show doesn't need high stakes but this show has zero stakes whatsoever. I've never felt that Jen is in legit danger.

[@xlz24]

@@philemard6183 . . . minus the Intelligencia. And Titania.

[@g3eneralz382]

@@philemard6183 more like issue of the week, more like a sitcom.

[@richardbaker4440]

@@edwinlaws9625 do you need to feel that she's in danger though? stakes don't just mean danger or a physical threat, and imo it's refreshing to have a super different tone in this show

[@chrispoole6612]

She Hulk has the distinction, in my opinion, of being the only MCU show to date that I can see going on for years and years. The stakes are relatively low, the episodes are neat, and there is so much you could do. I know you said this but it actually feels like a television show that could have seasons upon seasons unlike shows like Captain America and the Winter Soldier or Wandavision

[@theoraexplora]

the stakes aren't that low, the writing is just masking the show's A plot as each episode's C plot...the show is clearly ramping up to a "someone wants more hulks or their own hulks" storyline

[@ManoverSuperman]

@@TryingToWakeUp-qb7iu Hallelujah! With features like that, who wouldn’t want this to go on for years lol

[@arbiter5999]

Exactly this is honestly the first marvel Show, that actually feels like a show instead of a an extended/bloated movie

[@kagenoo1084]

@@TryingToWakeUp-qb7iu that part is shown happening though background details throughout multiple episodes before we actually see it.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

@@TryingToWakeUp-qb7iu Dude, compared with reality, reality is way way bizzare than Titania court busting scene

[@jayasada8002]

As someone who did not enjoy the show, I have to 100% agree with you on Critical Drinker and other KZbinrs who cater to an audience of hate. For me I didn't like the characters much and just felt the humor wasn't for me. Also, I want to say a huge thank you for actually critiquing the show and not just bashing on it and nitpicking for the sake of hating

[@chrischris-gs2vt]

I'm seriously liking She Hulk, but man, if I had it in my power, I'd sit the writers down to watch Night Court before doing season 02. I still consider it the benchmark for any legal comedy. Also Jen's dad needs a next door neighbour nemesis that's played by Bronson Pinchot.

[@fisheyenomiko]

Re: Jen's dad: LOL! I love it!

[@Coburnify]

She hulk based on night court would be peak

[@dr_volberg]

But how can they watch the Night Court tape, when the VHS player is broken and those two guys still haven't fixed it!

[@fisheyenomiko]

@@dr_volberg Is that a RedLetterMedia ref?

[@edgardomartin8299]

ikr? The writers openly said that they had 0 experience writing sitcoms and legal dramas/courtroom scenes.

[@LuckyRoooyt]

The way that I look at this show is "The misadventures of she-hulk" and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's definitely a nice change of pace compared to everything we've gotten so far.

[@erubin100]

Can't really call them "misadventures" when she gets nothing but net positives every time.

[@LuckyRoooyt]

@@erubin100 Can you give an example?

[@swan5404]

She-Hulk vol 2 back in the aughts had similar premises (focusing on her law career), but they haven't even ramped it up as off-beat as that was (i just want to see Awesome Andy).

[@chengkuoklee5734]

For me is She Hulk: A Series of Awkward Events.

[@pr0fess0rbadass]

Keep giving these poor shows a pass and the MCU will keep dipping in quality because disney will have no incentive to change.

[@micmacha]

In the comics, she could drink like crazy with her Hulk liver, but non-Hulk Jen was a lightweight. There was plenty of material there. I kind of feel like someone wanted to pursue it, and they decided that for whatever the reason it was a bad idea, or at least, a worse idea, to go through with it. There's plenty of material on that in the comics, though.

[@tretretre1111]

Isn't that exactly what happens in episode 2?

[@cantevenandrew]

@@tretretre1111 i think OP is saying the episodes didn't dive deep into the issue

[@micmacha]

@@cantevenandrew You got it. They dance around it, even set it up, but we never got the full punch line like in the comics. It could have been an episode unto itself.

[@ianmartins3407]

The mcu was in dire need of low stakes content, and a fully dedicated comedy, its great she hulk has its own voice and position in the mcu

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

Fits perfectly with the original comics, too.

[@cristela4034]

What comedy?

[@cltre1048]

Wasn’t that Thor love and thunder?

[@SAPVR]

@@cltre1048 no, thor love and thunder shouldn't be a comedy. That's the problem

[@NathanChiochios]

@@cltre1048 love and thunder didnt have low stakes

[@soltandvinegar]

The MCU has always felt like it didn't extend beyond what we saw on screen, but She Hulk has really fixed that. It makes it feel like a world where superheroes are everywhere, just like the comics. Probably the best world building in the MCU

[@charlestaylorco8713]

My biggest criticism of She-Hulk so far is that I only wish they went a little more zany with her 4th wall breaks like she would do in the Byrne run: I would love if she was talking to the director, instead of traveling to a place normally, have her just walk across a set, etc. but other than that I love the show

[@unkemptmedia2595]

WISH GRANTED

[@hog9613]

@@unkemptmedia2595 true

[@charlestaylorco8713]

@@unkemptmedia2595 I was so hype!

[@NeroLeMorte]

You got that in the finale.

[@NeroLeMorte]

It felt like a bad scooby doo episode twist like scrappy doo being revealed to be the main villain in the first james gunn scooby doo movie.

[@pedrotalons1422]

9:02 I think this is because the project are made so close together that one movie literally doesn't know what happened in the other, and what were the concequences while in productions, thats why you usually only see references to other movies after a few projects were already made and then we start seeing references to it

[@mickeymouse7726]

I'm glad people like you exists on KZbin I really appreciate it man

[@hjspalenka]

Honestly, even without the scene of her explaining her transformations, I don't think you could say Jenn catfished anyone. I just can't picture a world where you could knowingly go on a date with a Hulk, without knowing about the whole transformation thing.

[@danlo7698]

Nah man...she catfished the guy...no denying that

[@roryscott2941]

Well... remember that scene in Angel where the guy didn't know Captain America and Steve Rogers were the same person? He had read the book and assumed they were two different Super Soldiers, ... I believe that is the vast majority of people

[@zemoxian]

Maybe it’s like not knowing some aspect of a Kardashian’s life. You’ve probably heard all kinds of things about them but maybe not retained the details. Then dating one and finding out something weird for yourself might be a weird experience. Or he had the idea in his head of what it was like but actually seeing her post transformation was just unexpectedly weird for him. Which is saying something because she pounced on him through a portal with demon goop in her hair and carried him to the bedroom like a small child. But seeing her as a normal human weirded him out.

[@promiseomiponle810]

@@danlo7698 you’re wildly ignorant lol

[@madisonfrancis6705]

Also! It was in the news that she’s Jennifer Walters lol

[@Garanseho]

9:00 When I made my video on rewriting Thor: Love and Thunder, one of the things I changed was that I added Khonshu into the Omnipotence City scene to make the MCU feel more connected. I wholeheartedly agree that there should be more subtle connectivity!

[@IcyDiamond]

Honestly Khonsu kinda proves Gorr’s point of Gods being selfish when you think about it, he uses mentally ill people for his gain and makes them even worse off than they were before

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

@@IcyDiamond well yeah, one of the main points about Gorr's arc wasn't that he was wrong, even Thor actually agrees, it's that he should be changing minds instead of attempting genocide.

[@budgiecat9039]

Konshu not being there made no sense. He is Bast's brother too and Bast was there. Than again Moon Knight never mentioned that.

[@adamhardwick9143]

@@budgiecat9039 Khonshu not being there makes total sense - the rest of the Ennead had all left, only rarely having contact through their avatars. Khonshu is not at the big party in Olympus - he's still delivering "justice" on Earth.

[@budgiecat9039]

@@adamhardwick9143 Why would his sister Bast be there then

[@ProtoZer0.7]

I’ve been mixed on the show so far, finding it largely entertaining, but I’ve had moments here and there where something felt… off or missing, I guess, I’m not really sure how to explain it, or put my finger on what’s holding it back from feeling like a better watch for me. For the most part, though, I’ve been positive on She-Hulk, and Nando’s take here is refreshing to see among most of the other discussion around the show.

[@marving.8868]

Uuuuuj7

[@lavifen8847]

prolly bc the characters are bad, the plot is bad, and its unfunny

[@nathanhartono91]

Thank you for this. Been getting real sick of the toxic fanbase that comes with mainstream popularity. All those jabroni videos honestly make me feel gross for being a fan.

[@sirazazeloflowkey6424]

Do you actually mean all the dummies that complain about female leads and muh Man-Hulk? Or do you mean all those peope who are fans of Jen Walters She Hulk in the comics, who dared complain that they ruined her character and origin story? Or those MCU fans that feel like they completely are dropping the ball on the interconnected universe part?

[@danlo7698]

Or just people with their own opinions on why this show is straight trash! But hey you do you boo😂

[@Dilettante15]

I need 7000% more of Nando calling people jabronis.

[@misterdarwin]

On Hulk: I remember picking up Secret Wars - the first one in the 80s - and seeing some characters that had been through changes in their own books that I wasn't reading. Like Rhodes being Iron Man or Hulk being smart. It took a line of dialogue to explain it and I could move on from there. Hulk's metamorphosis feels the same way here. Like he's just guest starring in this series or in the Avengers films, while he's still having his own adventures in something we can't watch. And given that this was a thing revealed 3 years ago in Endgame, I don't know why anyone is bothering to hold it against the She-Hulk series now.

[@AndrusPr8]

Things I did like about the show: - The main actress. - The court room cases - Wong and the party girl - Jen's family - Episode 8 Things I didn't like: - Episode 6 - Episode 9 - Jen's firm partners Overall note: 6.5/10. Not the worst, definetly not the best.

[@intergalactic92]

Looks up the episodes in question. Yep that’s fair.

[@izukumidoriya8600]

As someone who overall doesn't like the show and finds it annoying and near painful to watch with some of the interactions between Jen and other people I whole heartedly agree that I enjoyed Wong and Madisynn. As someone who admittedly liked some parts of She-Hulk my main issue is that the writers just weren't the right people to do this and for some things they didn't bother asking for help when they should have, the court cases are one thing since they admitted to not knowing anything about being in a courtroom which they could have simply asked a lawyer or brought in a lawyer to help write those scenes for. The other thing is more controversial so I'll try and approach this as specifically as I can: I hate how Jen treats Banner. When she claims her life is "infinitely harder than his" I immediately knew I'd hate this character since she's meant to be his Cousin and should probably be more aware of his past but she claims to have a harder life than, arguably, the most traumatised man in the MCU, he was abused as a child to the point of developing multiple personalities one of them being the Hulk who was then given a body later on when Bruce nearly died in a Gamma explosion, following that up he was hunted for many years by the father of the woman he loves never able to be truly comfortable as if his heart-rate went too high he could black out and suddenly be standing in the ruins of a city as the only survivor, he lost people he cared about and was trapped inside the mind of someone who hated him for 2 years on Sakaar, and with how time works there it could have been longer, followed up by witnesses the destruction of one of his friend's homes and then being beaten nearly to death in a form he thought was unkillable, imagine how scary that is knowing there's someone out there that can easily beat the thing you once feared most and knowing he's coming for your friends and you, he had to live with knowing that he failed to stop the Snap for 5 years and then destroyed his arm to reverse it followed up with him losing his best friend Tony and then someone he was also friends with being Cap becoming an old man. I'll be honest with all this I cannot see Jen as anything other than someone who couldn't handle being stabbed in the hand, which is understandable, whining and complaining to the guy who just stepped on a landmine

[@ashtheash5695]

Man this video is worth it for the final 10 minutes alone - I love it when someone pulls out receipts to prove a point! Great vid Nando.

[@soccerruben1]

I’m low key wondering if the man Nando mentioned will even bother to respond? Love the call outs, I’m surprised he didn’t called out Jeremy from both Geeks and Gamer and TheQuartering, and Nerdrotic. But love it nonetheless!

[@theprojectofgamers]

@@soccerruben1 probably because the drinker is the only 1 who's actually a "critic", while the others are commentators, speaking completely off the cuff. He's in style with what Nando does, making it easier to call him out.

[@thunderkittysho1788]

Nah. Lol you can like the show, but those receipts were trash. Most of the women who lost to men were in phase 3 and captain marvel didn't lose to anyone in her movie. Half of the phase 4 losses were not from men and he counted mikari twice for the same fight. He also counted tva rando and aunt may who aren't even heroes. Most of the "wrong" list are characters that aren't meant to be seen as bad guys which is the point that those folks are usually talking about and one of them hasn't even proven to be a bad guy yet. His lists were kind of a reach.

[@jessicahogan7248]

@@soccerruben1 Sometimes the Drinker makes great points about plot holes and bad writing, and sometimes he's just disgusting. He called Jane in Love and Thunder "Natalie Portperson" during his review and while I think it's a terrible movie, turning her name into a woke derogative because he didn't like the character she played was just unfunny and uncalled for.

[@TraynArt]

I’ve been enjoying this show thinking everyone else hates it, so thanks for making this video. Because enjoying stuff is more fun when other people enjoy it with you.

Same. I guess people who like the show aren't as vocal as those who hate it. I am always excited when a new episode comes out and I'm gonna be sad when it's over.

[@dr.nottanownudder]

@ ppl who like anything are never as vocal as th ppl who hate it. It's like some social currency to be the "hatiest" of something and it gets the most attention. I do like this show and have been saying since the beginning that show has a sitcom style to it so not every episode is going to relate to previous ones.

[@Jamlady]

Same here, so glad he made this video.

[@writingref]

The youtube algorithm has a strange habit of trying to get fans to watch the negative videos

[@dr.nottanownudder]

@@writingref agreed

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

11:07 So hopeful. Wait till he finds out that even at the end of the series, the show still never gets to that point.

[@Laocoonshorse]

Thank you so much! It’s nice to hear nice things being said about a funny and well structured show.

[@onefairyfan87]

Now this isn’t me calling you out, while I don’t disagree with your points, and while I don’t hate them, I DO understand them. If you like the show, awesome, we do need a positive outlook on something everyone dislikes once in a while. For example. I really like the first suicide squad movie. But I do wonder, with your points about Jen and her needing that attitude check because she’s gone by without one, what would you do if the show never does that and she’s left to be looked at as right the entire time? Would you make a follow up video?

[@lucasbroome1048]

^

[@MrFrogOfficial]

My favorite thing about she-hulk from the beginning is how it feels like it’s building up the mcu. We get to see D tier, lame superheroes and villains in a world where every character with powers has previously been an avenger.

[@totallynotdio1311]

*ekhmmnetflixshows

[@richardbaker4440]

completely agree. there's a time and place for the limited miniseries format, but especially with marvel pumping out this much content there has to be a mix, and I think this longer, maybe lower budget, episodic format is sorely needed. We actually get to just hang out with these characters rather than powering through to an anticlimactic finale (Ms Marvel was the biggest let down for me, such a strong start just petering out when it could've been a nice long, just hanging out at school and having monster of the week Buffy-esque things). Lean into being TV shows.

[@johnmagee6841]

Thanks for making this video Nando, I've been pretty down on She-Hulk because in particular I really dont like the legal writing in the show but there are positives about the show that I've been overlooking that you've brought up. I'm definitely going to try re-watching the show once its all out and give it another shot

[@pedmonds2011]

Another thing I like is Maddyson and Wong. Their relationship is o fun just being a Sorcerer chillin with the party girl.

[@peculiarproductions8066]

The comedy for me personally doesn't land most of the time and the shows seems pretty reliant on the comedy, it being a sitcom. But I've also just been getting burnt out on marvel recently

[@peculiarproductions8066]

I don't hate it, but calling it better than moon knight???

[@faroffgrace5490]

If you're burned out on Marvel, then you could just... not watch Marvel stuff? I know it's advertised a lot but like, Mickey Mouse isn't strapping you to a chair and forcing you to watch Marvel content, or videos about Marvel content.

[@peculiarproductions8066]

@@faroffgrace5490 I'm not hating on any of it. I grew up on this stuff since I was 5. At this point I just wanna see it up until secret wars. After that I'm probably done. I still enjoy some marvel stuff. But alot of it feels generic. I'm staying for the different stuff. Like moon knight or werewolf by night

[@IcyDiamond]

@@peculiarproductions8066 Honestly I didn’t like Moon Knight but I’m glad you enjoyed it

[@luckymark571]

Then why do you still watch marvel lol, no one is forcing you

[@JacksonLane02]

I honestly don't hate She Hulk it's not awful . I wouldn't say it's the best MCU Disney plus series for me that goes to either Loki, Wandavision or Moon Knight but it's definitely not the worst show I've ever watched I've definitely seen worse. I just tolerate it in the end

[@thomascheckie2394]

wow i literally just mentioned those 3 as the ones i like more than She-Hulk as well, lol. I agree w you, I'm just so excited to finally get a follow-up to Incredible Hulk as I think it is a very under-appreciated film.

[@BaloonBoy7]

Lol those three are also my top 3 shows so far. She Hulk could be fourth if it ends well though.

[@charislaksono4505]

Those 3 are my favorites. No MCU show is bad, in my opinion

[@chengkuoklee5734]

I know it's weird as a 40 years old but teen/family comedy is my on switch. Ms Marvel and Hawkeyes are my top 2.

[@Bettercallricky]

Same

[@OtakuJuanma2]

"Jen shows up and does everything better than Bruce" Yeah sure, totally does it better, see Jen can throw a rock our of orbit with one finger unlike Bruce that used one arm.... Seriously they miss the point that Bruce is in civilian mindset, it's like a baseball player throwing a basic pitch when playing with his teenage son, or lore appropriately cousin. The cousin throws a curve that catches the pro off guard. Does that mean the kid is better? Heck no, if he got moderately serious that kid would be in the grass. As demonstrated by Hulk chugging the stone out of orbit.

[@AkiRa22084]

That is not what happened in the show, though. Maybe they wanted to do it that way, but couldn't due to horrifically bad writing.

[@ecchidragon8038]

@@AkiRa22084 I disagree with you.

[@AkiRa22084]

@@ecchidragon8038 Why necroing such an old comment and not saying anything of substance? Don't be an NPC, it's one of the worst shows in history.

[@izukumidoriya8600]

@@AkiRa22084 I agree with the regard that it is written poorly and honestly it had so much potential for a superhero lawyer following the idea of the government wanting to hold heroes accountable like in Civil War but they didn't know how to write a court scene, which they admitted too, and I personally just hated how she treated Bruce

[@Pigpen_YT]

Mad props to calling out Critical Drinker. Bigots like him should be called out way more often. Also a little alarming he thought the dudes in ep1 were in the right. Great video and great show

[@Luke_SkywaIker]

Real, non-bot reply here because this comment deserves more attention. The drinker and his fan base are a bunch of obnoxious children. I’m ashamed to admit that I used to be apart of their nonsense, until I realized (far too late) that he has no interest in being objective, only to fuel that “anti-woke”mentality - which, for the record, gets a terrible rep because of these people. A definite case could be made against Disney’s “progressive” hypocrisy for example, but that’s beside the point. Disliking a movie is one thing. I’ll give him that. But insulting the actors and creative department behind a movie because YOU don’t like it is a shallow, childish thing to do. I’ll never forget the time the Drinker started making fun of Natalia dyer’s body in his ST season 3 “review”, calling her scrawny and telling her to eat a sandwich. It’s what opened my eyes to the kind of content he puts out, and it looks like he hasn’t changed a bit…

[@Frostbite08]

That was a spicy second half, and I am here for calling these jabronis out.

[@weirdTedE91]

Yep, I'm team Nando on this one!

[@agirlhasnoname6637]

Someone has to do it!

[@knoledge_186]

I actually like she hulk, I've been trying to avoid it because of the number of people saying its bad, but when I watch it myself, it was actually great. The shehulk daredevil fight wasn't that great, but it wasn't that bad anyway.

[@typicallytheo]

"THis sHOw haTEs mEn" Episode 7: The Gang

[@TabalugaDragon]

and men are basically clowns in there. The only one who acts like a real person is Emil Blonsky but what do you know? He turns out to be bad by the end of the season.

[@damla5718]

Yup, totally agree. My only issue with She-Hulk is the character design. Hair is too perfect and her eyes.. idk how to describe it but they seem too animated? Like anime eyes? It's cg i know but Bruce's eyes look so much better in comparison. And her suits look unrealistic as well. That is my only complaint about the show. Other than that, i really needed a fun show among the others like WandaVision, Loki, Hawkeye, Falcon etc. I hope She-Hulk gets more seasons.

[@Im_AFK_Btw]

I think the difference between she hulks arrogant character and other marvel characters arrogance is that in other marvel films it is shown as an issue to overcome, but in she hulk it praises said arrogance instead of viewing it as a problem.

[@fj0823]

no it's not? Tony's arrogance is literally presented as his charm more often than not

[@The80sKickAss]

@@fj0823 actually no it's not. Not only does his arrogance get called out in almost every movie it is the leading cause of all of his problems. In fact, to show that he's grown as a character in Endgame, when he discovers time travel he hesitates to use it. He's charming because he is confident, not because he is arrogant.

[@flyinggherkin41]

@@The80sKickAss literally sleeps with a woman because of his arrogance Jesus grow a brain cell

[@unnirajac8617]

​@@fj0823 He is only arrogant in the beginning of Iron Man 1 after that he became a grea dude

[@izukumidoriya8600]

@@fj0823 Tony isn't praised for his arrogance, he gets a chest full of shrapnel for it and then his ego is put more in check and it's more a persona covering his anxiety and eventually it's just his cheeky self with a touch of arrogance

[@xlinnaeus]

Finally. A video that is essentially a critique rather than outrage bait dogcrap! Thanks so much for this take! I'd love to see your full review :)

[@Ryan-cu5gg]

The only criticism I really agreed with for this show is that I would much prefer it if Jen enjoyed being she-hulk and had to learn the downsides, I guess I just prefer that type of characterisation, but she is getting there through development just in the opposite way, learning both the *real* downsides and the upsides she didn't see before

[@SaveDareDevil-Mx]

What do u mean in the opposite way tho? isn’t she literally becoming the uber-likeable but also the “idgaf” / “no-BS” type of character that we know & love from the comics ?

[@pantherpopel551]

She would have had way more she hulk and action scenes with more budget they said. Which is wild, considering Disney is the largest media company the earth has ever seen and they wont even pay thei3 CGI people properly as it is. So yea, great idea they could have looked into with more CGI scenes, where she wrecks stuff and people.

[@budgiecat9039]

@@SaveDareDevil-Mx Because what he is explaining is how Jen behaved in the comics. You know the soruce material that made She-Hulk famous and garneed millions of fans for over 40 years.

[@foxxwertas2748]

Thank you for this video. I feel like I've been fighting some people on this one and I just didn't have a leg to stand on other than "I like what I like and if you don't then don't watch it." You've made some great points and now looking back at the people who tell me it's awful I really do see them as you've described.

[@theusernameicoodfind]

Honestly I love that stance. I hope that can be enough going forward.

[@caricaturesbydon]

Man, I agree with pretty much EVERY WORD YOU SAID in this video. About She-Hulk, about the CGI in She-Hulk, about the KZbinrs who hate She-Hulk, and even (especially) about the weird lack of interconnection in Phase 4! Okay, wait... I wouldn't call She-Hulk the best of the Disney + MCU shows. I just don't find it as funny as I'd like a comedy series to be. But I agree with everything else you said.

[@stephaniemoura9325]

I really liked she hulk too 👐🏻 And one of my favourite parts, is exactly what you commented of how this show is the first that makes more sense of a world that has aliens and “super - people” and so on… also the fact that is relatable to adults, for example, I always felt kinda bad that Steve rogers didn’t really get to have a girlfriend until he was able to go back on time.

[@jackballinger1757]

Thank heavens I found this video, I only finished this show recently and thought I was going absolutely insane reading the "criticism" of this show

[@sol20006]

I love the show, and a big part of it is I can sit with my partner and watch it during dinner, she doesn’t have watch 26 movies beforehand to enjoy it, it’s low stakes and easily digestible.

[@AlwaysW175x2]

Let me recommend u a channel and it's shows u might like, THE CW

[@robtheservantof6257]

@@AlwaysW175x2 😂😂💯

[@robtheservantof6257]

Your digesting Terrible World views Masked (horribly Masked) with Lame writing. The message of this show is Terrible and not something I personally could Sit down eat dinner to and let enter my subconscious Mind

[@edwarddesive4605]

You know what your write you should watch batwomen another amazing piece of media

[@O1OO1O1]

How does your partner get through the toxic portrayal of women? Assuming your partner is female.

[@alexbuswell3500]

As long as her being a egotistical and arrogant is part of her arc to becoming an actual super hero, then in all for it. But they didn’t change that with captain marvel, so I’m kind of nervous they won’t with Jen.

[@alexbuswell3500]

And also, ion care what anyone says, she hulk is not THE best show. Moon knight and wandavision were both better

[@yurenchen6431]

My favorite categories of media: Legal shows Super Hero Sitcoms (Especially this to the point of obsession) And I really feel she hulk failed at all 3 spectacularly

[@LaBooF42]

Really appreciate you calling out Critical Drinker. He is definitely a JaBronie

[@ricmorales3406]

KZbinr fight!!! haha!

[@raimiallpowerful2020]

"I appreciate you being toxic and attacking someone for their opinions". dude I don't really care if you like him or not but it's just toxic and childish to make videos trashing other people. at least critical drinker's points whether you agree or not he makes actual points and doesn't rely on just saying someone else is wrong. if a show is genuinely great then your points should be enough to prove it.

[@luckymark571]

@@raimiallpowerful2020 He is not "Trashing" he is actually giving actual constructive criticism if you watch the video at all, and btw critical drinker is far from an actually critic

[@raimiallpowerful2020]

@@luckymark571 kind of. If he broke down more points sure but he picked one small one. Broke it down, while not playing the actual clip, you see delivery of a sentence can change everything. Critical drinker exaggerates and has a lot of expression then nando read it in a very monotone voice with none of that so you lose what drinker meant and essentially is portraying what nando wants you to think. Because those guys hadn't done anything YET. They were being annoying sure. That's not a criminal offence and you don't go to attack them (which she did but hulk stopped her). Also how is insulting him and calling a "jabronie" constructive criticism? It isn't he is just insulting him. Also yeah you're right drinker is just a KZbin critic... Just like nando so this point means nothing.

[@luckymark571]

@@raimiallpowerful2020 Dang if you think jabronie is insulting, idk what to tell you 😂😂😂

[@dogberry99]

I just finished She-Hulk, and I have to say, I really, really enjoyed it. I felt it really captured the essence of the character, especially from the Slott run which is just the best ever. It took me a bit to get into this series unfortunately, as I've been dealing with a bit of Marvel burnout, plus all the alternatives vying for my attention (I've somehow been able to stay up to date on Rings of Power and Andor, but I'm also lagging behind on HotD, for example). It also took me an episode or two to get used to the voice/tone of the show, since the episodic sitcom format has a rather different feel than most other Marvel shows, so it took me a moment or two to realize this new flavor was something I was enjoying (if that makes sense...). Once my mind understood what it was trying to be, I could then enjoy it for what it was. Its uniqueness is part of what makes it great and why it is a series worth making with stories worth telling. Thank you for making this video. The negativity running rampant everywhere about everything these days is just... It is exhausting. It is ever present and inescapable. It literally drains me. I wish I were stronger, but... here we are.

[@agirlhasnoname6637]

I'm lagging behind on Andor. Heard it's great 👍 hope you haven't had too many spoilers for HOTD, unless you're a book reader of course 😉. But the show is great. Can't wait for for season 2!!

[@williammorgan6586]

I haven’t been keeping up with She-Hulk, but I have been running into many of the same KZbinrs in relation to Rings of Power. I feel much better now that I have learned I can call them Jabronies.

[@Lytane]

Well articulated and well said. I heard so much bad about the show before I watched it (I waited until it was all out to binge) but was very happy with the show overall. I didn't like the ending so much but at least it was different. My only complaint was from the first episode and how it did seem a little too easy for her. I know she will have struggles but seeing at how long it took Bruce to become who he is, I was a little disappointed when she had full control almost instantly and didn't "Need" the help. It does come across as her "Not having flaws" but I think the first few transformations should have been more primal but she adapts quickly, partially due to Bruce and partially due to her own natural ability. It's only really a small nitpick, that I wanted more struggle in the first episode but the rest was fun.

[@Chietcom]

I ndidnt know that she hulk was ment to be a sit-com type show. That really improves my biggest complaint, that the episodes dont feal like they belong together. But it brings up a new complaint. I personally like my sitcoms to have 3-5 main charaters that share A-C plots with each other. Of course there will be a main main character, but sometimes that mc gets sidelined and we follow one of the other. She hulk for now feels more like we are always following jen (makes sense) but that the other characters just dont get that much to do. i think its mostly a personal problem. In a normal sitcom you have like 20-50 ep a season, so giving every characters like 10-15 storys they are activly involved in feels like we see them alot. But in she hulk its 9 ep and it almost feels to me like we dont even see jen enough, so how can there be time for the other cool characters like Nikki or Pug. Also i dont know why, but this video made me remember how much i loved hawkeye, seeing kate and hawkeye goof around and mostly failing succesfully was really fun

[@warrust]

i assume the run time is tied to the cgi budget, but yeah, an even more spread out approach with more episodes would definitely help with that criticism.

[@ianbruno237]

Makes sense when the main character is shown more than side/background characters in only a couple episodes

[@mason802]

What’s her character arc

[@Shizzy5321]

Its realising she needs to accept help and she isn't perfect. In the first episode Bruce tells her she'll need to understand to: Balance her Hulk and work life Understanding how her personal relationships will be changed by this And how she will need to become a superhero Throughout the show we see her struggling with all these things after dismissing Hulk to begin with. In the end of the show we see her rely on K.E.V.I.N to make her show better. Is that enough of an arc for you?

[@Daniel-rp7nb]

@@Shizzy5321no, it really really isn’t - she doesnt do anything heroic or ask anyone for help at the end… the 4th wall zany is great, but it was and to have negate the whole plot and wrap things up - so unsatisfying and negated any arc she might have

[@soundwave3564]

he compares Jens character to that of Tony Stark, Thor and even Doctor Strange but it never feels like she suffers anywhere near the same amount of consequences as they do. We directly see Stark nearly die from his weapons and progress in the cave, we see how Thor becomes worthy and how much he has to struggle to be the hero he is, we see strange accept that he can’t truly help himself without giving up his mind and become willing to die over and over again until dormamu gets bored and decides to leave. What do we really see with Jen? What is the great heroic thing that she does? I understand that the car accident changed her life but the damage feels so much smaller in comparison to the other characters because she seemingly is able to transform whenever she wants anyways. Jen to me is a likeable and realistic character, but just not interesting, especially compared to the other dudes this guy tried comparing her to. My main problem with the show is that it just feels unnecessary and shouldve been pushed to happen later but instead Marvel decided to overwork themselves and sacrifice the quality and writing of this show and other projects in the MCU. Now guess what. There will more than likely not even be a season two because of it. Now not even the people that enjoyed the show or liked her character win. it feels like everybody lost

[@Fuzz-Brain]

I agree with all your points for sure. I actually think it's pretty funny and I really enjoy the peeks into the wider MCU through c-list characters. Sure, the CGI is a bit wonky at times, but I'm willing to overlook it. Still better than anything you'd see on network/cable sitcoms

[@LikesTheBacon]

Thank you for your take, even if I disagree with a lot of it. Ignoring any messaging concerns, the show just seems very poorly written a lot of the time. Jen comes across as a narcissist, but I'm not seeing any payoff or growth coming to develop and make the character more sympathetic.

[@makumatuk0867]

Fr thats my whole problem. Jenn being unlikable and bad writing

[@favianguerra8954]

24:32 well Wanda was for some reason justified by Rambeau, in a weird line when she says, "they dont know what you sacrificed for them", and that line ircks me to this day, she didnt sacrifice anything besides a fake family she made that lasted maybe a week, while making everyone else unable to see their own children while feeling agony.

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

She Hulk is one of my favourite superheroes, so when I saw the various thumbnails I opted not to watch it for fear it wouldn't do the big gal justice. Thanks so much for making this video!

[@WhyWeWatch1]

Excellent work! The other thing I’m thinking is that the MCU has set the bar too high, and some of us are burned out this phase, but that applies to most Marvel things right now. She Hulk probably gets targeted for overall phase 4 issues by these guys

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

As far as it relates to The Critical Drinker, no, he really wants to hate the show before he's seen more than a brief clip and I'm fairly certain he just hates women in general given the disdain he shows throughout his videos. Check out the "She Hulk is comedy" video.

[@WhyWeWatch1]

@@uosdwiSrdewoH “She Hulk - A Lesson in Terrible Writing” before the show is even finished. Jesus Christ, he’s not even trying to be fair lol Fictional Darling did a defense piece like Nando’s, and I think she also called him out directly

[@SpinoSam]

not really. I think Phase 4 has been really lackluster and I've only enjoyed 4 or 5 projects. While on the other hand, I got Marvel Unlimited recently and started reading the comics and it's been a blast for me

[@agirlhasnoname6637]

@@uosdwiSrdewoH if it involves Disney or a woman lead he's gonna hate it off the hop til he's not given a choice to backtrack. See his Prey trailer review where he bashed it so bad but then saw it & reluctantly said it "wasn't horrible" & changed the title of his prey trailer video (I think it USED to say "a bad idea" or something like that) but if his audience is mostly hating it like Rings of power, then he keeps on hating it too. If it's well received then he caves and says he likes it like HOTD.

[@cbpd89]

If multiple men followed me into a parking lot after I clearly didn't want them to, I would do my own personal version of She-Hulking: cussing them out, threatening to call the police, and if neither of those work I'd begin the castrations. That is extremely, most definitely not okay. Making someone feel that unsafe is a big deal. Anyone who says otherwise is A) not a woman and B) has never been bullied by someone stronger than them

[@Slendermangaming666]

idk what to say other than movie knuckles is cool and where is his series?

[@fenrir834]

I agree, castrating people for following you in the parking lot is definitely not okay. You sound like the female equivalent of Patrick Bateman fans

[@B1inded]

So following you=permanent medical change because you feel uncomfortable

[@ecchidragon8038]

@@B1indedAh... Yes. Sympathizing with the sociopaths who can't take no for an answer... Please, never breed.

[@schulbus13]

i only recently came across your channel and it is already by far my favorite one in the whole nerd/comic/movie scene. in contrast to other channels you are actually funny, you do know a lot about the topics you talk about, have creative ideas and you seem to be (as seen in this video) a decent grown-up person. sad to see that you don't reach as much people with your videos as other big channels that talk about similar topics do

[@bassforhire555]

I think my biggest issue with She Hulk is not the show itself, but the fact that it basically confirms what I've been worried about since Ragnarok. That the Hulk will never be cool on screen again. At best, he'll be used to set up a bigger threat, the MCU's Commander Warf, only there to be espoused as incredibly powerful, only to have his clock cleaned to show how powerful someone else is.

[@kagenoo1084]

I mean they can't really do that anymore either since as smart hulk he isn't nearly as strong. hulks strength is tied to his anger and now he isn't angry at all

[@Frostbite08]

He won't be cool on screen again unless they get the rights to do a solo movie again. If that day comes, we're gonna get World Breaker Hulk.

[@kagenoo1084]

@@Frostbite08 honestly I'm not so sure that that would be the movie they do. In universe right now it would make no sense to do world breaker hulk right now

[@Digitize27]

@@kagenoo1084 Really? I'd say they're absolutely primed right now. We got World Breaker in the comics because Hulk finally found happiness and contentment on Sakaar, and then it was ripped away from him, unleashing a new level of fury. The rage-filled Hulk of the MCU before Ragnarok could never have had that attachment because he was just a rage-machine unable to think more than a few minutes ahead. Now he's got a lot more Bruce in him, and he can actually form those attachments, they can consequently be taken away. After all, Bruce thinks he has a grip on the hulk right now, but then, on Sakaar Hulk thought he had a grip on Bruce, so the balance is never so clear cut. If they really wanted to go down the World Breaker route, they absolutely have an in on that, they just need to establish what it is Bruce/Hulk would need to lose to achieve that first.

[@kagenoo1084]

@@Digitize27 I don't think that smart hulk is the same as hulk on sakaar. It's not that Bruce is in control of the hulk it's more that he has come to an understanding with the hulk. It's like when someone with did integrates their personality to be whole. Plus it wasn't just that hulk was happy and it was taken away, he was betrayed and sent away and when he finally found peace the ship that he was sent away on blew up and took it from him. World breaker hulk wasn't just rampaging. His anger was targeted twords everyone who betrayed him. You can't do world breaker hulk without the betrayal and he doesn't currently have anyone he's close enough to that the betrayal would turn him to world breaker.

[@nathanhartono91]

I really hope the next phase of MCU makes more sitcommy shows like this. I’ve recently been randomly watching episodes of She Hulk, not even in order, and they’re a pleasant bite sized superhero watch. It’s probably the only rewatchable MCU tv show along with What If.

[@dreamingkw]

Thank you Nando. You have made a lifelong fan and subscriber out of me.

[@pathevermore3683]

so here for this. even from sites that are not haters this show seems to be really derided, yet i am enjoying it a lot.

[@MalenaVaranini]

Loved your video, I actually didn't wanna watch she hulk because all of the bad reviews here on youtube, but now i'm happy that i gave it a try 'cause i really enjoyed it!

[@rxlfe7177]

Finally a nice video about She Hulk. I love it. Everything doesn't have to be boom boom all the time. It's perfect. It doesn't feel like I'm watching a Marvel production but it also does in aspects.

[@macincko4616]

Reddit Moment

[@oxydeep9404]

Much respect to you and your team Nando! Laziness is the reason there are so many hate videos/similar topic videos on youtube. Many "creators" look at what's trending (a word and concept that I loathe) and push out videos as quickly as possible to make a quick buck or fulfill their video quota. I'm still not convinced one way or another that the show is for me, but I'm glad you voiced your opinion boldly. I find it genuinely interesting!

[@Ivlodded]

I always hoped daredevil and spiderman would show how the normal people react or interact with the happenings - it would make it so much mor believable

[@disc_calibur]

At 13:10, are you talking about your older videos where you'd make tweaks to movie plotlines and stuff? I always thought of those more as speculative "what-if" kind of videos. Like a YT video version of fan-fiction.

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

I just finished the series, and while it’s better than the critique, I think Jennifer never got called out of arrogance unlike what you predicted. She is similar to Carrie I feel, she has strengths and real struggles, but also flaws the narrative never adresses.

[@volvandthepocketkaiju]

I find it terrifying that there are people out there defending ganging up on women at night, as innocent... 😬

[@colinkenney9422]

Really?

[@amaranththemonados]

@@colinkenney9422 It's terrifying yeah

[@colinkenney9422]

@@amaranththemonados can u show me an example ?

[@amaranththemonados]

@@colinkenney9422 Literally in the video.

[@colinkenney9422]

@@amaranththemonados do u understand what fiction vs reality is?

[@ikatulo_yt]

I actually really appreciate seeing this perspective because the conversation has leaned a little too far into bad faith criticism, but I can't say that I don't sympathize with how people felt about the first few episodes. Yes Bruce was right to lecture Jen and that was her flaw, but the show itself failed to show her being a likable character. Imo I Jens scene was acted out really well but her speech itself honestly felt gross, she outright says she is better at handling herself and her emotions, then a character who was known for attempting suicide. Ironman, Thor, and Dr Strange have never done that. The first few episodes of She-Hulk also suffer from the WW1984 problem of depicting every man in as much negative stereotype as possible, and I honestly don't blame people for losing faith in the show for that. She-Hulk hooked me back in near the end, and I loved all the daredevil stuff and the unique ending, but I can't not sympathize with people who dislike the show.

[@ikatulo_yt]

@Nortius Maximus 😅i feel like at that point i just wanted a show to enjoy

[@ShadowSonic2]

@lastrolo "The entire show was done in bad faith, anyone that disliked it was an incel" It provoked the right people, the ones who weren't real MCU fans to start with.

[@realitycheck8327]

@Nortius Maximus69 Isn't that just an example of a character flaw, being overconfident She SAYS she can control her emotions but OBVIOUSLY cant, and she loses control because she's uncomfortable and scared, another piece of proof that she's overconfident in herself and disproving her previous point. Anyway why does a character HAVE to be likable, I'd rather have a character written well than a likable one.

[@combustablelemon14]

i'm not huge on she-hulk, i think its been pretty middle of the road for the mcu shows so far, but you made some really compelling points. it doesnt seem to have any huge goals as a series, and i thought that was due to a lack of ambition and execution. but a lot of mcu content fails because it cant handle the basics of story telling, and theres nothing wrong with an in universe take on a normal sitcom. maybe its not as much a mediocre show than a show thats just not really going for what i in particular would want. i think you made your points on how it works for you really well. youre dead wrong about loki not being the supreme mcu series, tho. fight me

[@xsanguine8]

That makes sense, you should be looking at it for what it is, and not comparing it to dramatic long-form stories like Loki. Just a couple days ago, I saw someone comment that they were going to wait until someone edited together a supercut of only the action scenes in this show, rather than watch the show.

[@warrust]

@@xsanguine8 i guess some people just really wants to hurt themselves

[@crestnotes9923]

I love she-hulk so much. somewhat familiar with the material and I really don't have that big of a complaint just that the show would really be fun to embrace the court drama comedy genre. not everyone's cup of tea but i still like the show.

[@mr.ambientsounds1291]

Now that the show is over you were totally correct to point out that Jens flaw of brushing away help does end up being addressed and resolved as the show goes on.

[@krishnanandpremanand3581]

You could keep lying to yourself that it was addressed

[@DavidLopez-dd1hx]

You're delusionally wrong

[@Daniel-rp7nb]

Yeah, sorry, you are wrong. She doesnt grow at all (and i really liked the show until the finale)

[@kaylinhendrich4673]

I made it a rule a long time ago to treat anyone who calls something “woke” with a great deal of skepticism. Saves me a lot of headaches

[@pacman5698]

The same people who use the word "woke" and think Walter White is a shining example of masculinity tends to be a perfect circle.

[@foxlover6770]

Yeah, like I’m sorry, there’s a LOT of criticism’s you could make about the MCU or Star Wars, but if the person making those arguments use “Woke” unironically as part of that argument, then in my mind the entire argument goes down the drain

[@Chuck_EL]

@@pacman5698 him, Heath and Jaquin's jokers, and Elon Musk they obsess over how "Alpha ' they are , can't for the life of me understand why the FBI has them psychos on a watchlist 🤔

[@naethavenir9422]

I dislike those kind of reviewers who say something ridiculous as the M-She-U and post some awful thumbnail game, the irony is so clear

[@yugandharjanardhan6466]

So you're telling me this show is not woke? Is it wilful ignorance or just slow mental capacity?

[@JRonenJ]

9:05 actually there's one scene in Hawkeye where Yelena mentions the New Statue of Liberty to Kate. and the whole show is both Midquel and Sequel for The Avengers and all the projects after that movie.

[@bryanheilman4376]

I especially loved the latest episode with Daredevil. This show is underrated.

[@Tetrathegod]

Ya hahahahahahahah .. I rly want to know your age

[@swanpride]

Yeah, it would be great to have a show which connects the different events...oh wait, there was a show like this. I really miss Agents of Shield....

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Agents of Shield didn't connect the events. It used some of them as backdrops.

[@swanpride]

@@Jane-oz7pp And yet it worked perfectly as a glue to keep everything together. One of the reasons Winter Soldier worked so well for me was because I could watch the whole fall out of it.

[@shayansadri-pucci5876]

@@swanpride still wasn’t a great show imo

[@swanpride]

@@shayansadri-pucci5876 well, a lot of people would disagree. Overall AoS was even better reviewed than the Netflix shows...it just wasn't "cool" to watch it.

[@shayansadri-pucci5876]

@@swanpride well I did say imo (in my opinion) for a reason did I not?

[@TheStephenStephen]

THANK YOU! I’ve been really enjoying She Hulk so I’m happy to have someone just make a positive video about it for once.

[@Yirmatang]

This was a phenomenal video Nando, as per usual your content is great and this isn't any different! I definitely got solid enjoyment out of She-Hulk, it wasn't flawless but I still had a lot of fun (something most of the films didn't really do for me this year). You touched on this in the video already, but my only "major" complaint was She-Hulks design, for two reasons. 1: I don't think She-Hulk looks anything like Tatiana Maslany; they almost feel like entirely different characters to me. (Where I still can see Mark in Hulk) 2: Like mentioned, I definitely think she could have been "beefed" up a little bit. She feels like the female selection of a fantasy race in an MMO. You have the giant hulking men and then the girls who are just different colors and look like human women. Definitely not enough to make me dislike the show or hold it accountable, it is just that we've started to see the MCU adopt the comics appearances in suits and designs but they were too afraid to adapt her for some reason.

[@turnthepage8980]

How could you Nando!!! I’ll probably leave this video convinced anyways.

[@TonyStark-oo3tp]

Thank you for addressing these bad faith media criticisms of women's representation in the MCU. It's nice to see that from such a popular channel.

[@joelmartinez-ortega347]

Where was the hate for jessica jones when she got her first season?

[@TonyStark-oo3tp]

I don't think there was any. My comment was referring to post-Endgame "M-She-U"-style critique of the MCU. Jessica Jones predated all that.

[@joelmartinez-ortega347]

@@TonyStark-oo3tp then maybe they should have written she-hulk better 🤔

[@TonyStark-oo3tp]

Sure, maybe they should have. I just have a bone to pick with ppl who make ridiculous criticisms of the MCU because there are more women superheroes now. But if you don't like She-Hulk, then you don't like She-Hulk, simple as that. There's nothing wrong with just not liking She-Hulk.

[@joelmartinez-ortega347]

@@TonyStark-oo3tp The real problem is that a majority of the critics paint she-hulk as one of the most comic, accurate adaptations ever, when in reality that couldn't be farther from the truth. She-hulk could/should have been better. I mean for christ sake's the creater of the show has gone out and said they never read any comics, doesn't that raise any red flags?! Most new characters in the show have more depth to them in the comics, which are mostly tragic. Look if you enjoyed the show more power to ya, but just take a look at the comics and you'll see the massive wasted potintal of storytelling we lost thanks to this show...

[@rooster5343]

In my opinion most of the people who hate she hulk WANT to hate the show. I think it’s been really fun and I’ve enjoyed most of it. I don’t think it’s the best Disney plus show but it is far from the worst. Most of the comedy doesn’t really land for me but some of it gets me. Like the legal team of magicians

[@zackreynolds21]

Well, your opinion is wrong. So, people who dislike it only could possibly feel that way because they just want to dislike it? I’m assuming you don’t think this the same on the flip side…as in, you and anyone else who likes it only likes it because you want to?

[@jesseowenvillamor6348]

@@zackreynolds21 He's right

[@LifenKnight]

No the want quality, but have been better lack luster shows and movies. Whilst actors/directors been attacking fans for no reason. We just want quality. why would someone want a show to be boring and terrible. The shows at the bottom of all marvel shows. They need to start hiring people who actually enjoy the media they are making.

[@jdrummerdd]

@@zackreynolds21 you are a walking cliche

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

@@jdrummerdd Which in turn makes you...what? Irrelevant?

[@17monsterguy]

Lol the Jabroni bit caught me off guard and is 100% on point

[@amalhallak9908]

I think you make some valid points, however my major problem with this show, other than Jenn herself who is obnoxious and insecure, is the many plot holes. For a start we never know why Titania attacked the courtroom causing Jenn to come out. It’s never explained and this is simply bad writing. Unfortunately this trope is used too often in modern cinema/TV.

[@BtownSpidey]

I love how I can't be a fan of any new marvel thing publicly on the internet (that isn't spider-man) without being a "Disney shill".

[@AZRockslide42]

I made this comment on a KZbin video where I believed the person was being too harsh on one particular scene in She Hulk: "What I have been seeing thus far in this series is someone who, because she does not have the Jekyll and Hyde personality of Bruce/Hulk, thinks she is better than him and more able to balance this. Scenes like this, however, show that she does not have balance, and if she does not get it soon, she is going to do something she regrets. Which I think is where they are building the show: She is going to so something she should not have because she is not in control, and that will end up biting her in the end. " Sure enough, we are seeing this play out in the series. Jen thinks she has everything under control, but it is obvious to those of us watching from the outside that she has almost none. It NEVER occurs to her that Titania would try and trademark her name. It never occurs to her that, by seeking connections as She Hulk, she would find men who could not care less for Jen. It never occurs to her that the man who "likes Jen" might have ulterior motives. She thinks she is invulnerable because of She Hulk, but all this is doing is exposing just how vulnerable she really is. Part of the problem is people who don't know her character think She Hulk is just a female Hulk. That is not Jen Walters at all. She has a different attitude, and her struggles are entirely different. I think this show has done a great job of showing that.

[@danielmercier2301]

Yet the show decides to draw comparisons from hulk from the beginning.

[@ODimiGabriel]

@@danielmercier2301 Yeah DUH, the show is introducing Bruce's female cousin that gets pretty much the same powers than him. Comparisons WILL be made, the point is that in the end... They are NOT the same, and to make it clear is nice to show the similarities first, a knowledge it, that's important so people that are slow don't use this same similarities and that the show "tried to hide it" by not talking about it. BTW, the first episode was supposed to be later in the series, but they switched the order to not confuse people about her origin.

[@sidecharacter3193]

@@danielmercier2301 yeah it draws em to prove how different they are Bruce gives her the literal stack of notes about everything he went through to help her deal with it easier and what happens…she doesn’t need them because her situation is different It literally is meant to establish the difference

[@Marnie_C]

The fact that someone thinks that the scene of the men surrounding Jen at the bar wasn't just harassment but also dangerous says a lot about their world view to the point where their take on the show can't be taken seriously. Its like a youtube food channel who only eats potatoe chips criticizing a steak for being too red, they don't understand the subject

[@izukumidoriya8600]

As a broad shouldered, tall and slightly out of shape male I know I can be scary for some women to see me and I've had to accept that but just because someone doesn't understand that doesn't mean their entire critique should be discarded, even an idiot can say something genius once in awhile

[@box2122]

Thanks Nando, its nice to see a video highlighting some of the more positive aspects of this show for once 👍

[@marcfinkel6327]

There is not one positive aspect of this show.

[@MassimoMD]

I’m glad you called out Critical Drinker, cause I used to watch his channel. To be clear, I saw his 1917 video and I think one of his endgame videos or something- so he was positive in those, so I subscribed and watched some other ones cause he can be kinda funny. I think he’s gotten worse though and fell down the “everything is woke” rabbit hole Those channels definitely hook people with some fair critiques, build up a report with their audiences then flip the switch into more hateful messages

[@robertanderson4921]

I do think the kaiju fight in Moon Knight was invisible to anyone who wasn't an avatar of the gods, so only Moon Knight, Harrow, and Layla could actually see Khonshu and Ammit going at it.

[@TheUnitedfan93]

Thanks for making this video. It was so well articulated, and you talked about something that has been driving me mad for a really long time.

[@jarodthedarkjedi6310]

I want Nando to make a fake Fandom Menace parody channel called “The Jabroni” with all the hyper masculine aesthetics these clowns

[@NandovMovies]

That's an amazing idea

[@bigshid7097]

before i even get deep into the video I just wanna thank you for making this. i have passed over every "she-hulk bad" video i see bc there's no point in watching it. I'm enjoying the show, why should i watch someone explain why i shouldn't like it. ya know

[@rockethito]

There’s always a Point in watching different perspectives. Don’t live in a bubble it will only hurt you.

[@garethhughes7430]

Can I just say I'm glad you've made this video! There are some people I watch who are real "lumpers" as in, they lump everyone into one basket. Whenever someone doesn't like something they like, or likes something they think is bad, they immediately jump to the worst example of them.