That Time You Forgave Your Mom's Killer, So He Killed You Too

[@laurenwest3090]

I could never imagine forgiving someone who murdered a loved one and this has confirmed it. Pure evil!

[@karenmulloy1085]

@@laurenwest3090 There is a special place for him in hell!!!

[@babakht]

"Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it" -George Santayana

[@null-xf9pd]

Forgive him sure. But say "hey I forgive you, good luck, God bless" and move on

[@thatskao]

This

[@karinlynn7009]

Cautious as serpents yet innocent as doves

[@Henilegasp]

​@@karinlynn7009 💯!

[@mernokimuvek]

Firgiving someone is just dumb. My physics teacher is a very intelligent individual and he doesn't forgive anything.

[@null-xf9pd]

@mernokimuvek cool bud, the adults are talking

[@Monalisabadgyal]

When someone shows you who they are believe them.

[@themalawiandiner180]

The first time.

[@jamiesue13]

Unbelievable. That poor woman...New meaning to "No good deed goes unpunished." May Martha rest peacefully & her family find solice in memories and her love.

[@SheridanONeill]

That "poor woman" made her own bed. There is no logic in taking in a double murderer who has brutally killed your own mother and a cousin!!!! She was even warned by his mother, but ignored that thinking she knew him better than her!!! Almost worthy of a Darwin award.

[@cornishmaid9138]

“No good deed goes unpunished” is THE most ridiculous statement ever invented.

[@bigwezz]

@@cornishmaid9138 Except in this case where it fits...

[@Karenanne247]

@@cornishmaid9138 but sadly, many times, it’s true. I’ve never understood that karma 🤷‍♀️

[@momentswithyahya4239]

More like a foolish deed, than a good deed.

[@brittthegreat3]

I never thought a crime could be replicated decades later...what a sad story 😔 It proves that some people never change.

[@BibaontheWay90]

I was thinking the same too!

[@EspyFernandes-tf2fm]

It's almost as if the Families are cursed. 😢

[@Veolette]

Indeed.

[@juniorynwa8634]

That disgusting man never change indeed 😢

[@spring7643]

Most people never change idk who invented the narrative that they do

[@claudiazimmerman3572]

His own mother saw the danger. She should have headed the warnings

[@christian1172-z9e]

Forgiveness and trust are two completely different things.

[@davidevans8691]

The scorpion said to the frog, "you knew what I was."

[@athenaargyropoulos5988]

I love this!!

[@EMPEROR_2.3]

Forgive my ass !!! 🤬🤬🤬 what a stupid thing to do and well done on the entourage not telling that it was THE worst thing you could possibly do !!!

[@cornishmaid9138]

You can forgive, but you are not obligated to have that person in your life.

[@annas.5763]

Sometimes, when we focus too hard on attaining something- even as noble as "forgiveness"- we become almost obsessed & are blinded to the reality in front of our faces.

[@cherylpeterson2289]

Ok to forgive, but never forget. She really should have been true to her Mom snd been at the parole hesrings to keep him behind bars.

[@karenmulloy1085]

@@cherylpeterson2289 I absolutely agree with you 💯%,

[@Gboye_propertiesGboye-rg2dg]

An ultimate price to pay for righteous foolishness...

[@Jen-rose76]

No good deed goes unpunished!! What a horrible ending to what could have been a story of love, forgiveness and trust. Makes me sick!! R.I.P. to all those lost. ♥️🙏🏽♥️

[@samjohns3227]

One can forgive but being a naive doormat will come with consequences....poor Martha.

[@lorirausch3326]

Crime A to Z is one of the best true crime storytellers out there! Always a great job.

[@shawngross5420]

It is possible to forgive without reconciling with a dangerous or toxic person. Releasing the power and pain they have over you does not mean you should now have them in your life.

[@genmasaotome3503]

Wait.. wait.. wait.. murdered 2 people... and he was let out of prison?

[@ad6417]

Maybe black rage was a defense?

[@wyzasukitan]

Sadly, this brings to mind the fable of the frog and the scorpion

[@RobertHenderson-zy1cn]

wow this was the nicest woman in the world! It's a shame that her kindness was wasted on the wrong guy. I have to admit I`m a fifty-year-old black man and, there's still NO WAY I would have let this guy in my home after what he did let alone give him a job. Hell I don't even think I could have forgiven him. I hate when things like this happen, because there are people out there who deserve a second chance. tragedies like this are why they won't get them. R.I.P. Martha you were a great lady.🙏

[@Soffity]

I think people need to truely repent to be forgiven. I’m not saying this in a “Christian or “biblical way" just the way I like to live my life. Be kind and considerate but don’t be so open minded your brain falls out, I don’t believe in a god but I do believe forgiveness needs to be both ways. You can’t take on another’s cruel deeds. If they are not at all sorry for what they did then what are you forgiving? You sound like a nice person. But sensible. People get so “taught"” told” carried away with being “kind” at times they forget to think.

[@susiew2521]

Absolutely true. There are so many people who would thrive given a second chance like Travis had.

[@berniehand5528]

I agree with you. This is the kind of stuff that affects others who really do deserve a 2nd chance. However the recidivism for people going back to jail is still quite high.

[@pippa3150]

You guys do such a beautiful job with these stories. I am heartbroken to see such a kind, forgiving woman have her life end this way. There are so many out there who truly do deserve a second chance. This only blurs the lines that much more. 🥺💔

[@ead3nblvck938]

She could’ve just forgiven him and gone on about her business. I forgive a lot of people who wronged me. Even those who have done unspeakable acts against me as a child, but I will not reach out to you or speak to you again.

[@CrimeStoriesXX]

These crime stories really help me sleep better. Admin, please add more stories. Thanks admin.

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

This is such a strange and eery tale. Well scripted and presented as always. R.I.P Martha. 🙏🕯️❤️

[@John-kv7jo]

It's one thing to forgive. It's another thing to throw caution to the wind.

[@Namanzw]

Some people dont deserve second chances

[@roxwashington]

I love to tune in to your channel to watch the new stories you post. The way you present it keeps you glued to the story. It was sad, Martha was a good and truly believed that Travis could change. Great job!

[@truecrime-r9o]

this story is so heartbreaking and chilling at the same time. Martha’s forgiveness was inspiring, but the ending is heartbreaking

[@Ammo08]

When I was a kid in Memphis in the 1960s, I used to mow lawns for some of the Snowdens who lived off of Lamar Avenue. Very nice people. Memphis royalty. I remember seeing Joe in various venues around Memphis.

[@jenn9935]

Native Memphian as well. Born in 70, I can vouch for your comment. The story is unbelievable to anyone hearing it.

[@alanhindmarch4483]

It takes a very special person to forgive the murder of your Mother, Martha was a very special person, RIP Martha

[@generalinfo3598]

I bet Martha's relatives and friends thought of writing "I told you so" on her tombstone

[@ParisFashionista]

UnFknbelievable! That poor woman forgave that demon for killing her family and then she lets him Into her home and life, and he offs her. Wow…just wow. Welp he’s in h ell now.

[@judyrosy]

You are an excellent story teller!

[@WendyButt-h4c]

How horrific, the poor woman...what an evil man...and how merciful of her to forgive - it can be a hard thing to do

[@joycebrackbill-henderly8311]

She could have forgiven without endangering herself. Silent forgiveness! She went too far in her forgiveness. 😮

[@MattWiggyWiggins]

Exactly why you don't give people a second chance.

[@karenmulloy1085]

@@MattWiggyWiggins You can't judge one person , by one person's actions!!!

[@saynotohookups]

@@karenmulloy1085 You can forgive without letting the offender back into your life. It's not wise to let them back in.

[@JB-bm1to]

Agreed!! I don’t need to forgive someone in order to heal. That’s a bs narrative to make people think it’s morally righteous. I’m more about FAFO! No second chances for malicious intent!

[@JB-bm1to]

@@karenmulloy1085no, but you can judge a person by their own actions.

[@bigwoogc]

Yay..new upload...been waiting for this. Thx for all your hard work!

[@OURWORLD4EVER]

This is why the death penalty is important, would have prevented this.

[@Eagles.Fan.Since.Super.Bowl.52]

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time". -Maya Angelou

[@LeanneFowler-ms5xc]

Thanks for the quote. I like to repeat them if/ when necessary.

[@michaelboris2500]

"Bish, you knew I was a snake..."

[@moncollet2282]

I've forgiven those who did me wrong but I would never trust them again.

[@juniorynwa8634]

Unbelievable just unbelievable, this is one of the case that I'll never ever going to forgot. This wonderful woman have the most beautiful kind heart ever. Unfortunately for her, she didn't listen to her family and decided to help that disgusting man. R.I.P Beautiful Martha. And thanks for sharing this with us, I really appreciate your hard work ❤️

[@ArtzFenix]

So sad that he thought so little of the family to hurt them so deeply again. RIP

[@Lily-e8z8t]

What a loss to our 🌎... we have such a dearth of kindness in this world... Hoping you have a wonderful Holiday Season, Dark, and that everyone watching this video too!❤❤❤❤

[@karenmulloy1085]

Forgiveness is one thing , to interact was very foolish !!! Rip to all who lost their lives 😢😢😢

[@Karenanne247]

Crime A-Z….the channel always hits their videos out of the park ⚾️

[@RR-mv1vr]

Unfortunately forgiveness only leads to be taken advantage of 😢

[@MimifromChicago]

Forgiveness is one thing, but why play russian roulette with a murderer? Her behavior was just stupid. So sorry for her surviving family members.

[@JJ-zv2vc]

agreed 💯

[@NaneelQueenOfDarknes]

Martha seemed like a wonderful lady, what a tragic end, her old dog was so handsome, I hope he was looked after.

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for the upload!

[@Godzooky]

Forgiveness is one thing. It’s likes set out to prove she’s a good person. People usually forgive these kinds of acts at a distance for themselves. She was doing too much.

[@ragugod8267]

I would’ve fired his mom 😂😅 wtf she’s working there after all that??!

[@reignman30]

Yeah even if Martha never hired Travis, he'd probably still be there trying to steal while visiting his mother.

[@hsuanlin0227]

Kindness doesn’t work for everyone . This extremely evil killer should never been released ! Such a tragic for this family !

[@nrh1240]

Too forgiving.

[@IceSkater8491]

That man had evil in every cell of his body. I sure couldn't (and wouldn't) forgive him. Martha, you were too good.😢

[@mamadukes9791]

Make no peace with evil. 💔

[@stedydubdetroit]

9:51 that’s not forgiveness. She became obsessed with trying to prove to people that she was a forgiving and kind person. Her obsession is what got her killed.

[@ianflawlez]

yes and it's called simply pride.

[@asha4736]

Amen. I bet she was insufferable to him and his mother, lording it over them and the other 'servants'

[@JJ-zv2vc]

Usually I don't agree with statements being made w little to no evidence. However, you may be right. Only cus earlier in the video she bragged about having servants and living like royalty. That's not kindness from a person because that's not humble. So in this case most likely you are correct.

[@rachymn7883]

I was about to say. We maybe missing something. The mother worked there. So it's odd

[@reignman30]

It was probably her politics too.

[@n0tofthisw0rld]

Forgive without reconnection.

[@StingRaeTheSingingSiren]

So sad… Forgiveness is one thing but trust is another…

[@keepushinkp]

I will never in my life care that much to be a forgiving person .

[@momentswithyahya4239]

Word

[@Netbug]

Her biggest mistake was not recognizing just how vacant this man's mind was... absolutely no critical thinking ability. Zero self-awareness or impulse control. Completely incapable of compassion or gratitude. He basically sat in prison for 20 years without making an ounce of progress as a person, just waiting. He was what he was... nothing could be done about that. He was basically an animal. It was entirely up to her, as the human in the relationship, to recognize this but ultimately let her compassion get in the way and paid the price. It's OK not to forgive someone unconditionally. It's OK not to trust someone in the slightest. These things are part of basic survival instinct and don't make you a bad person.

[@amberravine2232]

She was red riding hood. Even walked a dog in a red coat.😢 She let the wolf in

[@SheridanONeill]

I have no sympathy for her. There is forgiveness and there is stupidity. She was the latter. Especially since she was warned by his own mother!!

[@reignman30]

Yep, and the way it sounds, she didn't have any kids so this should earn her a Darwin Award nomination.

[@veronicasawyer77]

wow i’ve been living in memphis for 5 years and never heard of this.

[@fightingfisherman9690]

This not kindness this is stupid, what would her mum and think, wasn’t like her rob a bank, he shot her mother and burned the house down, jees how low can you be at 17,

[@ruthmusser4449]

This young man's voice is really nice. Can't imagine why people are saying AI.

[@reignman30]

I've heard this voice on other channels, like AiTelly.

[@Zeb-gb2uk]

Lady of the lake indeed, lake had her back 😮

[@catzcool89]

New ghosts in the manor, including the "lady of the lake" and her killer who's actually in the lake..

[@teevee396]

I saw Less forgiveness more stupidity

[@alonaonyoutube]

This video came on my feed randomly, my ears perked up when I heard “Memphis.” Sadly I’ve never heard of this case, but unfortunately redemption was given to someone who ultimately didn’t deserve it.

[@Joanna-j2r]

Oh Martha….. this is one of the saddest stories ive read.

[@reignman30]

This is the least sad I think I've ever felt for someone who was murdered.

[@badshot3146]

OMG. Dude jumped in the lake but didn’t know how to swim. Stereotype much 😂

[@AccentYouLovingheart]

I forgive but a must establish boundaries. No turning the other cheek. Martha should never have allowed him to get close to her after what he did to her family.RIP Martha.

[@Lybrel]

15:00 "Was she actually too forgiving?" While it's easy to dismiss this as "white savior lol", it's more a lesson on playing God. Any psych expert could have foreseen the forced envy of living in a mansion, the dangers of surrounding him with other people who universally despise him, and the psychological pressure of forced gratitude forever as a groundskeeper/servant.

[@urban1337]

No good deed goes unpunished

[@dreamofmermaids]

Why I don't believe in rehabilitation.

[@butwhyisthis]

Any extreme is dangerous, if violent extreme is dangerous, so is stoic extreme.

[@michellejones8966]

She played with fire, even after being burned and warned about the danger. Prayers to her family.

[@SR71GIRL]

"A leopard RARELY changes his spots."~ Herf I've been burned pretty well in the past. Some lessons are very painful.

[@cadillacdeville5828]

😊 this is such a phenomenal channel

[@reneedennis2011]

Thank you for this video. I have heard about this case.

[@EdgedShadow]

What an idiot. This was basically a glorified suicide.

[@nevaberg4546]

Does anybody else think this narrator sounds like Dean Cain? 😆

[@BeeWhistler]

Forgiven? Maybe. But I wouldn’t go anywhere near him either.

[@briannemccann9012]

Never allow Evil into your home - period!

[@bcl4177]

Not to victim blame but wtf was she thinking?

[@lynette8918]

She was dumb as hell. I don’t feel bad for her at all.

[@woo9238]

He said he was rehabilitated.That is sufficient proof for me. What possibly could go wrong?

[@tiffanysantiago516]

Sorry but she was just dumb . Very sad this happened to her still

[@Joy_Sugar246]

She shouldn't of bring him into her life like that😢😢😢! It's good to forgive, but to go all that mileage and for him to think bout killing her... her playing mad or just wanted to be notice

[@notyours405]

Thank you for the video… I heard about this case many years ago and wanted to find it, but couldn’t remember names, just vague details, but you nailed it!

[@kasyasatubo]

God wants us to forgive, also God wants us to use our brain. I mean, if I was the mother, I would want my daughter to forgive my killer, learn a lesson, then move on and be happy with other things.... not forgive my killer, get curious with my killer, then get obsessed with my killer, be hooked with my killer, be manipulated with my killer, and worst, TRUST my killer. Really no words.

[@Just_Smile-n2w]

As a Christian, I could eventually forgive, but I don’t think I could do what she did. No good deed goes unpunished.

[@CNile-se9xw]

The shame is that he earned enough to get into drugs. THAT, is where it all spiralled out of control.

[@patz24]

What a lesson for us all!

[@JB-bm1to]

I just ordered myself a hoodie that says “I believe in holding grudges, I’ll heel in hell” and now I really think I’m making the right choice.

[@karanveersingh3428]

In my culture we wait for them to come out 😂 but not to rehabilitate them

[@Whatever8197V]

There's no forgiveness, just a narcissistic Lil twerp ...ong why would you do that it's just idiotic. Your kindness was mistaken as weakness .. Typical..ugh😢

[@lauries.nicewaner3876]

This is such a devastating ending but I admire Martha for holding true to her principles. Chris Williams also decided to forgive the young man who killed his pregnant wife and two children in a drunk driving crash. (See movie Just Let Go) This true story has a beautiful ending. You just never know how others respond to being forgiven. I hope if I'm ever in that situation, I can be forgiving.

[@MichaelWalsh-qn3ef]

Silly Martha,to get to her age and even think for a minute that thing would have changed. We all know the ending. R.I.P.