She Narrowly Escaped “The Dating Game Killer” At Age 14

[@thereIsaidit123]

When I was 8 year old...i was walking home with my sister. I was wearing a name tag with my name. A man approached me and said "Lisa?" I looked at him; he said "your mom told me to show you something" I believed him and followed him to his white van. My sister who was walking ahead of me; turned around, RAN and screamed "Lisa DONT GO WITH HIM" I turned around fast and ran to my sister. 1- I never buy my kids anything with her name or initials on it. 2- Sibblings are angels

[@ashleewarren8468]

This is why my nephew never gets his name on anything!!! And we have a family password, and my nephew knows if someone different is getting him from school, He’ll get a message from the school, from my sister, with who is getting him. This is so scary! I’m so sorry you went through that!

[@SchlichteToven]

That's super frightening! We were told to be wary of white vans in elementary school because there was a man driving around in the area trying to kidnap kids. Seems like there were men everywhere trying to kidnap kids in white vans.

[@chrissystewart6268]

I"m a 90s kid the first time I heard about Rodney Alcala🇲🇽🇺🇸 in my 20s before Covid I want to say to those who lost their love ones I'm sending my condolences to them

[@BJ-bc7sl]

@@thereIsaidit123 it’s always the white van 😬

[@Kt-cn2rq]

Well if your in US alot of schools using id tags now.

[@Myopinionmattersthemost]

This man was really sick. He kidnapped an 8 year old beat her brutally with a bar and raped her. The little girl was in a coma for over a month. If the judicial system did its job he should have put him in prison for life and there wouldn't have been all these other victims.

[@lindaa2437]

Did they know it was him (Rodney Alcala) that kidnapped, beat and raped that 8-y-o??

[@grumpyoldlady_rants]

The story of that little girl is so heartbreaking. Thank God that the police followed up right away when that man witnessed Alcala pick up little Talia.

[@zerdellbui8979]

Omg 8😢😢

[@iwantthe80sback59]

Her parents refused to go to Court and moved to Mexico. That did not help.

[@grumpyoldlady_rants]

@ - Oh, that’s right. I remember now. They didn’t want their daughter subjected to more trauma by having to testify.

[@jonschmidt9845]

"everybody looks like a human, but not everybody is a human", what a powerful and true quote.

[@kit2130]

Well that’s a scary fact

[@Happyhippy70]

Lol, we are all human Regardless if you like a person or not. Humans kill, the U.S is full of them. Its called the army lead by the nose of %1ers. In the name of freedom. 😢

[@Happyhippy70]

We are all human, Regardless. Humans kill, Look at the US. They have an army full of them killing in the name of freedom, ordered by the %1ers.

[@Happyhippy70]

We are all human, Regardless. Humans kill, Look at the US. They have an army full of them killing in the name of freedom, ordered by the %1ers.

[@Happyhippy70]

We are all human, Regardless. Humans kill, Look at the US. They have an army full of them killing in the name of freedom, ordered by the %1ers.

[@NanT.00]

In the 1980s, during my travels in the United States as a young Canadian, I experienced an incident that has stayed with me. While I was walking to a corner store, a kind woman sent her son to escort me back to my motel room. He informed me, "My mom says to stay in your room tonight, as white girls have been going missing recently." This occurred in Seattle, in a neighborhood that was later known to be associated with the Green River Killer. I only became aware of this context recently after watching a true crime story. Thank you to that family who helped a stranger for no other reason than kindness.

[@Fonoyb]

I had car trouble and had to walk a ways on a busy highway. A Guy stopped and ofcered me a ride. He was very Stoic and unfriendly In an odd way. All of his seats were removed in the car except the front. It just felt really CREEPY. So I refused the ride! I was thankful it was a busy road!

[@Fonoyb]

One time my Preteen Daughter and I went to Winnepig. We went to the Horae Races. We odered food and went to a table where we were standing. I walked about 30 Feet to get Napkins etc. When i returned to the Table, some Guy in his late 30s was standing next to my Daughter eating her food and making Conversation. I stood and stared at him scowling. He got uncomfortable and left. Its been over 20 yard now but he felt to me like a Trafficker. It was Bizarre how quick he swooped in! Still gives me the Creeps! Scarey!

[@Angie-v4r]

I think I might have been suspicious of a stranger offering to stay in my room all night.

[@latasha195]

@@Fonoyb😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@ParadigmRabbit]

@@Angie-v4r Nono. The mom was telling the girl to stay in the room, not the boy to stay with her.

[@Manila-wo3pi]

We're so lucky to have this woman. She was never "dumb." She was an innocent child. I wish the world were fair and even. We live amongst so many monsters. Be safe out there.

[@t-babyyupressed2906]

People Shouldn’t judge When She was only 14 and good for her to regain her control by telling her stories because believe me her story is saving lives all these years later

[@mrchopsticks3]

People shouldn't judge ANYTHING a 14-year old girl does. I'm a guy and I admit that I wasn't legally sane until I turned 24 or so.

[@RayneZaleska]

Let's not forget this was 1969. 'Stranger danger' wasn’t a widely taught concept back then-it didn’t really start being emphasized until the 70s. Back then, kids didn’t always tell their parents about things either, because mistakes were often punished instead of being used as teaching moments. On top of that, if a girl was SA’d, the blame was often placed on her rather than the abuser, even more so than what we sadly see today. Society was very different, and unfortunately, kids often didn’t feel safe speaking up.

[@nativechique7589]

@@t-babyyupressed2906 yes crazy how victims are judged

[@dmreddragon6]

@@RayneZaleska - Another reason not to tell was you wouldn't want to worry/upset your parents to where out of fear of losing ones freedom.

[@phunchurchgirl]

​@shadowkissed2370 stranger danger became a thing after experiences like this. Sadly children still make this mistakes and they're children so we shouldn't expect anything more of them. This man killed tons of people, she isn't the only one who got away, just one of a few willing to share.

[@neilm2794]

The fact he had no recollection at all of an event like that tells you the sheer volume of encounters he must have perpetrated.

[@mamalaiwahspiritualconsult5623]

She was 14. In 1969. She did the best she could in that moment. She wasn't dumb, he was a grown man who kills women. Nothing she did was her fault. She was a kid.

[@JulesinAZ]

How can anyone ever think she is dumb? She survived a prolific serial killer while many many others didn’t.

[@jillianohalloran]

Agreed. I was assaulted when I was 15 all I could think was if I told my parents I’d get in trouble for not being where I told them..

[@sportsman4545]

She was 14. Amazing story.

[@goofykitty286]

A friend and I just wanted to enjoy a nice sunny day at the beach our first year in college when some weirdo approached me saying he was a photographer and wanted to take my picture. I said “no thank you”. He told me “you could be a model”. I responded, “I don’t want to be a model. Have a nice day.” I’m very grateful my mother raised me to be skeptical. I also learned to always drive myself so I could leave whenever I wanted, to call the campus police for an escort to my vehicle and always be aware of my surroundings. Now I learned self defense. Stay safe ladies!

[@mallinalii]

[@cezarypuzdrowski3476]

Not much self defense if guy is twice big as you..

[@nixwestlake9196]

Campus security isn’t always safe. Be vigilant

[@SadieMccollough-mf3jl]

So many things we didn't tell our parents back then, because "dumb" was a punishable offense. Hope parents today are more understanding and approachable

[@nolipgloss1343]

Yup. More worried about getting in trouble for even stopping to talk to a stranger. My dad was off the chain so any hesitation would have been so my dad didn’t catch a case.

[@jemmajames6719]

I’m from the UK, one winter afternoon on a very cold and rainy day I got off the school bus ( I was ten years old and it was dark) on a busy road full of houses, I suddenly felt a man behind me, I quickened up,he quickened up, I went faster he did too, between a couple of houses there was an alleyway which ultimately led to a field and an abandoned railway track it occurred to me he planned to pounce and take me down it, I ran as fast as I could and he did too I felt his breathe on my neck, I didn’t stop until I reached my house about ten minutes away, I think he given up after we had passed the alley way entrance but I didn’t chance it. I fell into the house out of breathe and scared and all my mother said was who’d want to attack you!

[@je9833]

@@jemmajames6719😮😢❤

[@Manila-wo3pi]

@@nolipgloss1343 Same. The things I kept my mouth shut about are heartbreaking.

[@katrish786]

I completely agree. We were more afraid of getting in trouble. I think we're much more educated now about things like this & feel like parents are more approachable.

[@rayjump6096]

Calling him an animal is an insult to animals

[@Paula-om4xx]

🐶🐰🐼🐒🦧🐘🦓🦒🐅🦦🦮🐄🐴🐥🦁 Thank you 🙏

[@eatwithcandy7147]

She should know better than that thank you. Obviously she doesn’t have an animal or she would never use those terms😡

[@Paula-om4xx]

@@eatwithcandy7147 🎯🙏

[@cube5750]

man is a worse insult than animal

[@nancycrandall4545]

Alice, you have a very important message. You should speak to kids in schools to explain how “humans are not always human.” Well said.

[@JonteTheArtist]

I didn't get what she meant by that, but now I understand.

[@missjans1]

The host should just let Her guest tell Her own story. Stop interrupting her story.

[@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLife]

Right? It was enfuriating

[@Hillr2249]

YES

[@jwes869]

IMO what appears to be interrupting is just the host trying to get as much info in a short allotment of time. I don't watch her show but I'm sure she had other guests and topics to cover in under an hour.

[@willams_uncrustables]

Right?! So annoying!!

[@sharondalynnewton7562]

That’s one thing I dislike about this show.

[@sandy-ke1kr]

Trust your instincts and don't be afraid to be rude. That is so hard for women and for me. We need to make sure that our daughters now what to do when their instincts tell them to getaway. As she told her story I thought about all his victims that probably had the same feelings but ignored them. So very sad.

[@CatCat-v5g]

Yes! This!

[@Scriptease123]

That's exactly what security expert Gavin de Becker said in his book "The Gift of Fear". He said if someone makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up, there's a reason and to pay attention to those involuntary responses. They are there TO PROTECT YOU.

[@h3artands0uLL]

@@maiamystiaunfortunately what you say is very true. That’s why there’s flight/fight/freeze/and FAWN response in a dangerous situation. Sometimes we have to smile and laugh our way out, fawning over them to get the hell out of the situation so that they don’t hurt us

[@mackenziex3axl]

@@h3artands0uLLthat’s like the only way out of those situations!

[@jessieb7290]

Did that once too. Met up with a friend from high school, she wanted me to meet her in this bar she liked (id never been there and raised Catholic)…went in to meet her anyway and it felt and looked shady. So about 10minutes later of feeling really uncomfortable i just got up and left. Told her after she complained about, i told her i felt so uncomfortable in there, that i didn’t feel safe and that the bar man was giving me funny looks. My friend had a problem with that. I haven’t spoken to her since.

[@AM-xe4iq]

She interrupted her so much. She couldn’t even finish a sentence.

[@Emilia-tx3zw]

TV host have talking points to cover under a strict time constraints.

[@lora8706]

Sometimes ppl with trauma can have difficulty sharing. To me she seemed to pause, as if stuck in a thought when the interviewer helped her along...maybe?

[@dariustremaine6784]

It looks like editing cuts to me

[@elenad.2959]

​@@Emilia-tx3zwWe know that. The producers need to get this feedback from viewers so perhaps they decide to schedule less guests and the host doesn't need to be rude in order to get to the end of the story.

[@elenad.2959]

​@@dariustremaine6784If so, they need a new editing team

[@fg1977]

Tamron Hall, please let your guest that experience this speak on it. You spoke on nearly half of this interview.

[@jessieb7290]

All interviews go this way, even when celebs are interviewed. The other person has to always be thinking of questions to ask and try and get info. It is so annoying though

[@fg1977]

@jessieb7290 Yes, I understand. Thanks for responding respectfully. T.H seemed not to let her finish or start her answers.

[@delphinidin]

I think part of the problem here was that they were pressed for time, and TH wanted to make sure that they got all the most important details before time ran out. If they'd had more time, TH probably wouldn't have interrupted as much. // Also, when people aren't used to being in front of an audience or cameras, the adrenaline kicks in, and sometimes you just start rambling about stuff that isn't important. So if it's a live (not edited) interview, the interviewer may have to interrupt to get you back on the most important part of the story. I think that's what TH did when AF started talking about the detective who encouraged her to visit the killer. TH cut her off because that part of the story was less important than other parts she wanted to get to, like the story of the actual discussion with the killer.

[@nolipgloss1343]

They do a pre-interview. She obviously needed help to get thru her story. Many times they can get stuck on tiny details as they are going back thru the trauma in real time. It also helps them feel comfortable not having to lead.

[@Jasmine34952]

I thought the same thing. She was very annoying, interrupting her in the middle her speaking, often repeating what her guest had just said. The only reason I listened to the end is because I wanted to know the story in spite of Tamron Hall.

[@yvettetorres7829]

I can imagine a million things that could have happened to her at 14 y/o in that serial killer’s apt and on the roof top. God bless her, thankful she’s alive to warn everyone.

[@cocoaorange1]

She should be held accountable for not using her common sense, and not going on a rooftop with a weird guy. In addition, she should have told her parents, they might have had him arrested.

[@momma3204]

@@cocoaorange1The woman said in the interview I wouldn’t go into his apt I wasn’t that stupid but then there she is in his apt! wtf?!

[@laurischmidt9774]

My sister was kidnapped and escaped from a man in Pratt Is in the late 80's...years later, after his arrest and appearances on news stories, she's certain that it was him. It was a terrifying experience for her and the rest of our family.

[@nativechique7589]

So glad she escaped!! 😢

[@herpaderp-bp4pe]

Rodney was in prison by that time though

[@cliobhabie]

He was in prison by then

[@DaniRomero-z3y]

She didn’t say it was Rodney😂

[@dropkickninja5379]

Wow that is incredibly scary, but I’m glad she came home and you and your family could let out a collective sigh of relief. It’s just sad that your sister may have suffered from PTSD from something so frightening.

[@marimar2525]

She appears still shaken after all these years. She needs to be allowed to talk stop being interrupted. I get the sense that she feels guilt for surging.

[@chay0407]

So many interviewers love to hear their own voice.🙄

[@jaeshasway]

These type of fast paced talk shows have been on the air forever. This isn’t that type of slow, detailed interview format. It’s intended to spark interest. Why not google or do a search for more information? Why is everyone pretending like these shows should provide all the answers when they never have. They serve a purpose. Use google or chatgpt? KZbin search, or Better yet, buy her book.

[@curlygirl_code8047]

Tamron girl you were pissing me off here 🤣🤣🤣 Let her tell the story!!!!

[@Biggi-rt1pk]

Please don't ever go back to retrieve ANYTHING ! As a little girl I was walking home from my girlfriend. A few minutes after I left my friends stepp dad pulled up next to me offering me a ride home. I declined but 55 years later I still remember the creepy feeling I got from this man who I had only met briefly minutes before. My parents instilled in me the importance to never get into a car with a stranger. That was my second thought after considering a ride out of politeness. To this day I consider myself lucky I didn't. When I was a teenager a male friend and I were hitch hiking and a creepy man stopped offering a ride. As soon as I opened the door, I knew better not to get in and said no thank you. He persisted almost insisted that it was ok to get in the car. We declined. That man then parked his car on the side of the road and began to chase us across a highway bridge. I got away by jumping the railing and down an embankment on the other side but my friend wasn't as lucky as the guy cought up with him and punched him in the face and then came after me again. We both made it out of there and ran to the police. After reporting this encounter and the license plate of the man, they picked him up and brought him to the station where we came face to face to identify him. That was so uncomfortable and scary. I never hitchhiked again, and for years I looked over my shoulders thinking he would see me walking on the streets around the area where I lived. I am so grateful you made it out of there and survived.

[@Pippi-Longstocking]

Listening to her explain about the money and the book and her dad and all that, it speaks to me. We’ve all been there.

[@Katt54]

I was 19 years old in the mid 70’s and was living with two friends right after High School. I was the only one with a car, but that summer had taken a trip to Seattle and my VW bug engine died and I sold it a kid there and took the bus home. Shortly after, before I was able to buy another car, my roommate was invited to a party across town. She wanted all 3 of us to go. She suggested hitching a ride. Myself and the other girl said no, but somehow she convinced us it would be OK. Saying there is three of us and we will be careful who we get a ride from. She stuck out her thumb on a busy arterial and almost immediately a car pulls over. It was actually a black hearse, made to look like a hippie car with flowers & peace signs spray painted on it . Two young guys maybe about 4-5 years older than us said “where are you headed”? They looked harmless for the most part. We all hoped in the back and almost immediately the guy in the passenger seat opened the glove box and pull out a bag of marijuana. He offered us some and started rolling a joint. We did not smoke pot and declined, but the inside of the car got smoky fast. Anyway, I was going to roll down the window when I noticed there were no door handle on the inside in back. I nudged my friend and pointed and it was the same on her side. The window also would not roll down. When we got close to our destination, we told the driver he could let us out. He made some lame excuse about needed to make a quick stop and pick up his aunt’s mail since she was out if town. He said he will drop us off after. He drove out into this neighborhood and when the houses ended he just kept driving. He pulled over and it was a wooded area. Next he said he need to stop and go to the bathroom. Why didn’t he stop at a gas station or something ? So, he gets out and goes behind some trees and the other guy gets out and is smoking his joint leaning against the car. The keys were in the ignition and my friend behind the driver’s seat was like 5’l “and small , so she climbs over the seat really fast getting ready to start the car and take off. Right then he was almost to the drivers door and said “ what are you doing”. We all started screaming rape at the tops of our lungs and the guys freaked out and finally let us out. We had to walk like 6-7 miles home. About half way home a military guy in a jeep offered us a ride and we said NO. Never hitch hiked again.

[@grumpyoldlady_rants]

I’m the same age. I turned 14 in ‘69. I grew up in the San Fernando Valley and, even at 14, I would hitchhike. One place I would “thumb” a ride to was a park near Spahn Ranch, where Manson and his followers hung out. I feel very fortunate that nothing bad ever happened to me. I had a few close calls but was always able to get out of it.

[@smilinmoo]

Yikes! Spahn Ranch! You could’ve ended up being recruited by the crazy Manson Family into their cult! My friends and I were 13 in 1969 and we hitchhiked all over the San Fernando Valley. Looking back, I can’t believe how stupid-and how lucky-we were that nothing happened to us. Maybe it’s because we usually did it together.

[@grumpyoldlady_rants]

@ - I would have been an easy target for them. I had a terrible home life snd the idea of “freedom” would have been appealing to me. Where in the valley did you live? I mostly lived in Van Nuts, Sepulveda snd Panorams City.

[@qbconnect2883]

​@@grumpyoldlady_rants Praise God, He brought you through it all, the rough family and the wolves of the world!

[@kardoyle]

@@qbconnect2883yes protected for sure !! Angels and guides too!

[@drdreeaaa]

Did you live in the valley in the 80’s when Richard Ramirez the night stalker was going around? I live in the SFV and just get the creeps that maybe some day someone will copy cat these killers.

[@Musika1321]

If you saw her go back for the book in a movie you'd think, aww come on! but her story goes to show that people do do ridiculous things under pressure.

[@alfonzomoore2421]

That is something a kid would do. She did not have life experience. She was concerned about getting in trouble with her dad.

[@lakep7798]

I can understand that, as not thinking straight under pressure. But why go back AGAIN after all these years? After getting away as a teen then learning what he’d done to so many, I’d never want to see him again!!

[@DJKSB58]

@@alfonzomoore2421 Absolutely for fear of getting in trouble from her father. I would have received a belting from my father for “losing” the book

[@CruzinCait]

@@lakep7798closure.

[@toritori5835]

@@lakep7798- Probably because she’s a journalist and wrote an article about it.

[@matthix2678]

Don't be afraid to be rude to a stranger. It can be the difference between life and death.

[@st7728]

LET...HER...TALK!!!

[@phunchurchgirl]

The number of encounters in these comments is horrifying. Imagine how many more stories are untold

[@dropkickninja5379]

Couldn’t agree more

[@amyblue4204]

My mother lived a wild life. She had me at 14....when I was around 10 and my sister 4, we went to stay the weekend with our grandparents, as we often did. My mom had a date that night with some guy named Rusty Williams. They went back to her apartment and she took a shower, and then he went to take a shower. Im sure you can guess what they were about to do next. Anyway, while he was in the shower, my mom noticed on the side of the bed by the wall was duct tape, rope, a metal pole, and a knife. He must have put it all there while she was showering. She was wearing only a tshirt and she bolted out the door and banged on her downstairs neighbors doors screaming for help. He took off before the cops came. But that incident always stayed with her and made her leery of who she kept company with after then. Super scary, to think what he could have done to her.

[@darlamccracken4062]

Tamron needs to let her guest finish her statements before cutting her off

[@dsatt57]

Let people talk, Tamron!

[@dorothydanridge]

What a brave 14 year old and woman.

[@bamarealist]

I say moreso, blessed.

[@sjohnson65456]

Stupidity came first and then again! The words "brave" and "hero" (in other cases) are being used far too often, and incorrectly.

[@sylviashanabrough6515]

She was not brave. She was just desperate to get that book back.

[@nuthinmuffins5073]

As a parent to a fourteen year old, this is just that extra bit terrifying to hear. I think I’ve raised my child with the knowledge to avoid these kinds of situations, and I know I’ve done all I can to give them a sense they can tell me about anything, but every time my kid goes out into the world without me, there’s that feeling of being unable to protect them directly and it sucks. I know I gotta gradually extend the leash, but it’s not easy, especially after watching true crime content!

[@phunchurchgirl]

Keep letting them know to tell you the things that they think will get them in trouble or to tell a relative who they like more than you (lol). Things happen all day that our children keep from us even when we're super close, just like we kept things from our parents

[@lovingaqua1]

i’m 20 now and when i was younger i’d get so mad at my mom for not letting me go out of town with my friends family or spend the night at people’s houses she didn’t do a background check on. now i’m so incredibly grateful because i hear so many stories about girls being abused by a friends family or their friends family friends they have over.

[@ShalomShock]

Follow your gut instinct. Back in the day, I was waiting for a cab at Saint Joseph's Hospital in Phoeniz AZ. It was daytime, and I was in front of a clinic with my son who is special needs. At that time we had a serial shooter on the loose as well as the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. A man was across the street watching us. Everytime I looked up at him he would turn his head as if he wasn't watching. He had a shirt wrapped around his head, with skidproof shows on and had a basket with wheels on it. It was the kind of basket that you take to the store when you have to put lots of groceries in it. I thought that he was homeless but it was a disguise. After a while, he ran across Thomas Rd. and stood 15 feet close to us. He would look up and look around. My intuition said stand, face him. So, I stood up on my tippy toes, faced him and started jiggling my son's formula in my back to use it to throw it at him. I said a prayer of protection, then a lady and her son walked up from between two buildings at the time, he was moving stuff around in his basket and I could see the but of a gun. He looked me square in the eyes and at the point, I had realized that it was the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. I was determined to make a lot of noise and mess if need be. He looked at me and walked away. My cab came, I called the hotline on the way back home to Tempe. A day and a half later, Maricopa County Sheriffs Dept had called me back to say that they went and looked at the tape, and yes it was him, the Baseline Rapist Serial Killer. I would see him on Tuesdays at the clinic and would call, and give a description everytime I saw him. No one else could see him and I had imagined that I was going crazy BUT MCSO would look at the tapes and see that it was him. After a while I was no longer afraid and prayed that we were protected from him. After a while, they found him living not far from Saint Joseph's Hospital. Follow your gut instinct and keep your head on a swivel.

[@piscesgirl5062]

😮😮😮

[@toritori5835]

Boy, you must have had a whole squad of linebacker angels surrounding you. That is chilling.

[@Cometcast12]

You would call on Tuesdays but all the cops did was check footage later when they felt up to it? After checking the footage the first time you called, having proven yourself to be a credible witness who _accurately knows_ when it’s him, why in the world did they not fly to the location you were providing them with each call? To collect him at your 2nd call, or 3rd call? Did it not matter how many chances you provided them to make an arrest? I’m just baffled and confused why Phoenix Police just sat on your calls… ?

[@susanmei9980]

@@Cometcast12I agree! At the very least, knowing he kept showing up on Tuesdays, why did they not send some plain clothes officers there to wait and watch for him on Tuesdays? Unbelievable!

[@Cometcast12]

@@susanmei9980 It’s been said and known that Phoenix police performs terribly, but then again there are many cities police departments said and known to perform terribly, so maybe it’s just a nationwide problem going on with police, performing terribly

[@theapocalypse8273]

My sister had her picture taken by him on the beach in Southern California. She was 14. He had her come to his home to pick up the pictures. If she had not gone with a man, who knows what would have happened.

[@freden9234]

In the 1990s there was a serial killer whose MO was to troll for women driving cars with female name vanity plates on the highway. He would signal them to stop and claim that something was wrong with their cars, then offer to take them to “get help,” killing them after they accepted. During this time, a good friend, who had a vanity plate with her name on it, drove one of the expressways he frequented to pay me a visit. When she arrived, she asked me to follow her car around the block and tell me if something appeared to be wrong with it (she had a specific issue in mind, but I don’t remember what it was). After I assured her everything was fine, she told me about a man who approached her at the expressway rest stop after signaling her. He told her that she had a car problem and offered a ride, which she declined. She had no clue that it could have been a ruse. I was shocked and horrified and begged her to call the police and report it, but she seemed to just put it out of her mind. To this day I am convinced that she narrowly avoided becoming another victim of this killer. 😬

[@phunchurchgirl]

This is another problem we have - we don't want to report these near misses because we think we'll appear irrational. Those little reports add up, just like in the movie about Alcala.

[@clarecampbell4481]

@@phunchurchgirl100%!

[@deannesanv8931]

And not reporting may cause the deaths of others.

[@BJ-bc7sl]

When I was younger I was staying with my aunt in a sleep away camp that she working at to help her with her baby. There was an older man that funded some under privileged children’s camp experience. He came to visit the camp. One day he took some of the boys that he funded out of camp to take them on a hike. My aunt asked if I could join them on the hike to keep me busy. My young 10 year old mind was thinking… why would this old man pay for the kids camp experience and then take them out of camp for the day?? Anyway at the park he took the boys to the bathroom and one of them came back crying. I tried to comfort him but he was not interested and the old man got mad at me for trying to be nice to the boy. I can still remember the oddity of the situation. Many years later my aunt told me that the old man was a molester. I found it so odd that I knew all these years something was off with that man and the adults didn’t. 🤔

[@jackee1054]

Hall might be the single most obnoxious host I've ever watched. This poor woman literally could not get out a thought before she interrupted her.....again. She should win awards for her inability to run an interview.

[@KajunMs39]

Please!!!! Let her tell her story!!!

[@Julie-k3t]

I watched that film. Anna Kendrick did a great job and the film scared the hell out of me.

[@Luckyduck82180]

I agree

[@cherylwoyak1909]

Woman of the Hour​@@sweetbeauty2153

[@karolinesmith6119]

​@@sweetbeauty2153woman of the hour is the name of the movie

[@cliobhabie]

Yes she did her part and that was her directorial debut ! So happy for her

[@rachael8078]

The first part messed me up. She was pregnant. I just couldn’t imagine

[@86sineadw]

Jesus the crowd gasping at this woman’s choices is horrible. Talk about shaming her. She’s brave enough to get up there and share her story. You can tell she feels a lot of shame and guilt. Have some empathy and not gasp when someone tells you about decisions they made.

[@Jennifer-jn2qw]

Always listen to your gut. It's an instinct for survival, that we as humans so often dismiss. There was a man watching me in a gas station. My whole body reacted before I noticed him. I waited for him to walk away so I could run. I jumped in my car, locked the door and put it in reverse. He came running from behind the store and started violently trying to open the door screaming I better let him in. I kicked the gas pedal because I was willing to run over him. Another instance, my friend was dating a guy that sent chills through my body. I told her he's dangerous. He ended up stabbing her to death. And I had a man demanding me to get in his truck. I started running into traffic screaming. He figured I wasn't going down easy and got out of there. Always listen to your instincts. It's literally life or death.

[@dropkickninja5379]

That is so crazy that so many terrifying situations happened to you. Was this all in the same state?

[@Jennifer-jn2qw]

@dropkickninja5379 yes, same county in Georgia.

[@dropkickninja5379]

@@Jennifer-jn2qw God rest your friend’s soul. That is heartbreaking. Did they throw that scumbag in the chair?

[@Jennifer-jn2qw]

@@dropkickninja5379 he tried to cut into his veins with the same knife. The judge told him he'll die in prison thinking about her and being haunted by her face. I only hope she still haunts him in his grave.

[@wildflower2092]

When I was 14 and walking to a friend’s house after school a man driving his car pulled up along side me he got out of his car stood by his trunk and asked me my name and if I lived at the house we were in front of and I told him yes.He said are you sure? But it wasn’t , I was so scared. Thankfully a lady in that house was sewing at a window and seen what he was doing and when she opened her front door he ran and drove off fast. Thank goodness she seen it all and knew to come help me. He was short and chubby about 25 to 30 years old where a white collared shirt and light gray pants. That was back around 1975

[@wildflower2092]

Wearing *

[@bamarealist]

She was very blessed! We have to train kids early that the “book” can stay right where it got lost.😇

[@candicane1]

I was fathomed when she said she went back to a creepy naked guy’s apartment for a book. 😩

[@sjohnson65456]

​@@candicane1 the pit in my stomach when I heard that! It was as if I forgot for a quick second that the girl was this woman who is still alive in front of me telling her story!

[@Moonshadows_Musings]

My daughter is 35 now and I always brought her up to be aware, keep herself safe, and could tell me anything without me getting angry or judgemental. Because of things that had happened to me It was so important that she knew I would always be there for her and she could come to me about anything.

[@0230Raveena]

@@sjohnson65456 . I know exactly what you mean, my heart dropped when she mentioned returning. I was thinking that she let herself be a prey especially since she could now attest to his character.

[@sjohnson65456]

@@Moonshadows_Musings everyone needs parents like that. Just that alone shapes SO MUCH of who we become as adults.

[@laurenjeannegilbert]

It’s amazing reading all these comments. How important it is that we listen to our instincts! I remember being five or six and being approached by an older man in his car and just knowing that something was not right.

[@thecurethetop]

I had an encounter with him in August of 1977 in the Poconos in Pennsylvania when I was 11.

[@patriciacrane548]

Glad you are still here🙏. What happened?

[@thecurethetop]

@ I was at an amusement park and was riding the little rollercoaster. I was getting off wanted to keep riding it. So I asked the man who I thought worked there if I could just stay on and ride it again. He said to come with him and he would take me to his boss and give me all the rides I wanted. So he took my hand and started walking me towards an old looking shed type building but just then thank God my Dad ran up to me and said to come back here. I was actually mad at my Dad 🤦🏻‍♀️. I’m sure it was Randy Alcala. I thought the man was so handsome. When my Dad approached he just took off real fast. When I got older I recognized his photo and I researched the time periods and locations. I’m lucky to be alive and I’m grateful to have had my Dad save me.

[@toritori5835]

@@thecurethetop- I’m so glad your dad came when he did. That’s so scary.

[@LeddingGooo]

😮 so scary ​@@thecurethetop

[@Cometcast12]

He just yelled at his own daughter like she’s the one cooking up trouble, “Get back here!” but you were a child…🙈Did he just let that guy go about his merry way??

[@Dustrick]

Tamron, whoever she is, needs to let the guest speak, DAMN!

[@JonteTheArtist]

I remember the talks my dad had with me and my siblings growing up. Even though i didnt like how tough and strict my dad was but now i see why he was like that. Got to be safe in the world. My dad prepared me to have street smarts. It took me awhile to get it. Now at 45 im very aware more now. I moved out the house at age 22, and i think my folks taught me how to be independent. Im forever grateful to be raised with morals.

[@ednaatluxton4918]

I cant believe he was still alive decades later and not yet put to death.

[@loribreitbarth2215]

If you haven’t read Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker. Everyone should listen to that inner voice that knows things before your mind even knows why…. It has enlightened me so much

[@kizpaws]

You are so right. This is a very good and helpful book.

[@PokemonExpert-pm4qw]

Tamron interrupted her so much, I never even heard Alice’s story. Jeez.

[@beatpirate8]

I remember something scary like that and i also felt a sense of his control over me. He somehow almost pulled me to his apartment up these stairs when a man walked by and i broke free. I was picked up from the library too i was very bookish. He talked to me about books and asked me to walk with him and gave me a juice. I somehow was being dragged up to his apartment and felt his charm Fade to angry eyes. I know always that i was lucky and i was trusting too trusting for my own good. Thank god, god saved me too.

[@Cometcast12]

Omg, how old were you when this happened?

[@nrw7798]

This type of random encounter with maniacs is not as unusual as some people may think. They are not frothing at the mouth and howling at the moon. They can put on a mask of normalcy when necessary to trap a target. I remember walking home alone one evening years ago, and a car slowed down. It seemed like he was trying to ask me directions, so I started walking towards the car to hear him more clearly. Suddenly, I felt in my spirit to not take one more step towards that car. I turned around and walked away as quickly as possible. It’s sad that we have to have our guard up constantly, but it is what it is.🥺

[@reefglider]

Good to trust your instincts!

[@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLife]

This has to be one of the most frustrating interviewers ever. Is she always like that? She wouldn't let her speak, she would get ahead of the interviewee, she led the answers... extremeley aggravating

[@SimpleLifeAlways81]

That's why I don't watch her shows

[@patamakka08]

How do you not watched her shows? This is an interview, not a monologue!

[@bigred4379]

I think she was trying to keep the story moving along, because the guest seems scattered, and nervous.

[@travelinglight4656]

I agree..very unprofessional..she's horrible

[@Aname87]

I think it’s bc she’s a journalist. This is a very interesting story from a journalism standpoint.

[@0230Raveena]

I think the moral of her story and recounting her experience is a way to explain the mentality of the women who might have trusted him and did exactly what she did. They fell victim, perhaps to their sense of ignorance (not stupidity) about the true nature of what someone is capable of. We all try to give people the benefit of the doubt because we want that for ourselves. And I think that perhaps the world wasn't nearly as dangerous then as it is now and I absolutely agree with her, be wary and aware.

[@LN-fi1nf]

Alice did not say why the photographs scared her so much.

[@lukki7ster]

Super scary! Many years ago I was walking home from school and a man pulled up by the sidewalk askin for directions. I stayed on the side walk a d gave him the directions. He then asked me if I wanted a ride, a said no and kept walkin. He was Axel Rose looking and I am very "hip hop" for lack of better description. I found it odd and im glad I avoided getting close to the car

[@Emy53]

I can see why this host kept emphasizing she's 14 years old. She was "extremely fortunate" that he didn't grab her. See how quickly her first instinct to run, was completely dismissed because she was more concerned about getting in trouble for going with this stranger. We have to teach our children differently. I rather have my child with me than focus on a book that can easily be replaced.

[@Emy53]

My point exactly, don't tell mom and dad....why????? Your parents will understand and give you a good talking to, but you would have learned a vital lesson.

[@user-lo8ot9zw6y]

@@Emy53because she was not supposed to go with a stranger

[@debbieklose8776]

“Every body looks like a human but not every body is a human “ Well said ! 🙏 Thank you for being brave and vulnerable to share your experiences. We all learn from each other 💕

[@TT-zl1wf]

I used to work his tier on death row. He was in fact an arrogant creeper, even while locked up. Super full of himself.

[@lindalavino7567]

Aren't they all???? Just asking.

[@TT-zl1wf]

@ no. They aren’t. Most are surprisingly normal.

[@75717]

Serial killers aren't normal. They are all demented and evil.​@@TT-zl1wf

[@Sookielein]

You know a five minute segment during the superbowl could give so much exposure for cases like these or John and Jane Does. Sometimes it could be so easy to identify someone but the ones who could aren't even aware.

[@deborahdeldebbio]

Thinking of this young girl knocking on his door to get her book back, after narrowly escaping, made me laugh. It's so innocent.

[@Fonoyb]

Scarey

[@cocoaorange1]

I would have left that damn book there!

[@annrae1597]

Why does the interviewer keep interrupting the woman..it was so broken up.

[@dimitrovajunkie]

I think she was trying to keep the story going and had time limitations in mind. Sometimes people get too caught up in details that can drag out a story.

[@Emilia-lg1ll]

This was divine intervention 🙏

[@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLife]

For some reason god just didnt feel like intervene with the other victims

[@sharonrose50]

@@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLifeHe gives you a free will either you listen to your gut feeling or you don’t there is always consequences to your actions and they are not always good.

[@lesliecurran1704]

​@@sharonrose50it's amazing how there's always a rationalization for something you cannot defend with logic and reason.

[@maureenviola]

Please do not call him an ANIMAL. Animals do not wantonly rape and murder. Men do.

[@missmayflower]

Dolphins do.

[@jendee1260]

not true.

[@CarnivoreStork]

What planet are you on? Animals can be very cruel. Male lions & even male domestic cats, Bears, & wild stallions have been known to kill other females children, to Get to the mothers. Let alone all the carnivores. Chimpanzees & male mallard ducks rape. You need to read more.

[@oldyeller6518]

Some do

[@AceGoodheart]

Lol, what? Lions, bears, tigers, etc. don't kill?

[@PowerDiva]

If I had to guess, the reason he didn't hurt/kill her when she returned.... 1) He never expected her to come back once she escaped so there was no thought to plan for that scenario and 2) For serial killers, sometimes they have to be in the "mood" as strange as that sounds. Strange correlation but think about what it's like when you're about to get down with your partner. Maybe you light some candles, the clothes start to come off, everything's starting to get hot and heavy. Then your mother calls unexpectedly. After 10 minutes on the phone with mom.... we're back to the task at hand, but suddenly the magic ain't so magic anymore. The mood is ruined. That's kind of what (I'm guessing) it's like for killers. They get all pumped up and 'in the mood' then the girl gets away and it doesn't happen. Even if the girl suddenly comes back... the mood is ruined. I think this lady got very lucky.

[@boebender]

The tree remembers what the axe forgets

[@annelauzon567]

I remember when I was young, my mother told me about "bad" men. In my mind, they were ugly and scary. Then I saw the "All the Family" episode where Edith almost gets raped in her own home. The guy was sooo good looking. I had never pictured a bad man as being good looking.

[@cocoaorange1]

There are, but there are a lot of evil beautiful women as well.

[@carrieruston3770]

@@cocoaorange1 yeah, well I hardly think men have to live in fear because of them. look how many women on here have had very scary experiences with men

[@JustFamilyThings]

All In the Family could have been a PSA - especially that episode. I told my kids that sometimes normal looking people are monsters on the inside, and we just can’t always tell by looking. So we have to trust our feelings.

[@ensabahnur3104]

Child logic, thats why she went back for the book.

[@DJKSB58]

Fear of getting in trouble from dad. My father would have belted me for losing the book!

[@beckyshell4649]

Yes a child’s mind is ‘uncooked’ logic. There was a 16 year old girl who lived in my town, she had gotten in trouble for taking money from her parents. She then took their credit card and charged a couple of hundred dollars on it. She killed herself because she was afraid of getting in trouble with her father. He was devastated when he found the note.

[@CeeJay611]

I just watched this yesterday. It's sad how he got away with so many murders

[@sweetbeauty2153]

It's tragic!😥

[@ljk7785]

I just read an article about the women that are being killed on majors highways throughout the country. Be very vigilant while traveling. I don’t go to rest areas anymore. I only stop at highly busy gas stations and lock my doors to go inside and use the restroom. There are many creeps that are very skilled at conning woman.

[@elenad.2959]

This interview was ridiculously rushed. She couldn't even explain more than a short sentence about her actual visits with the killer. Very annoying to click on this video and watch it because it didn't cover the subject on the title. 👎

[@pamparker6876]

At a hotel with my ex on a business trip, i went to the hotel pool. Walking back to our room, i saw a maintenance man following me. The electricity to the room turned off. I decided to take a nap. As soon as my ex walked in the room, electricity was restored. Coincidence? Don't think so. Be safe. Not even a hotel worker can be trusted

[@earthling8585]

Angels were watching over her that day! Thankfully!!!❤

[@anovemberstar]

So, the angels weren't looking after the many other women who didn't get away? 🤔

[@earthling8585]

@anovemberstar I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend anyone. It seems a miracle she wasn't a victim. That's all.

[@peperochan12]

Nowadays, many women mistake bad instinct they felt towards someone as an attraction. That's why there are many unhappy couples everywhere and abuse.

[@SugarMollyHazel]

The same thing almost happed to me but I was adult. I was at Barns and Nobles looking for some books for my little cousin. Well a guy kept looking at me, then asked am I’m a teacher. For one thing that was a stupid question. Because I have a disability where I’m not able to speak. It’s not that hard to not know that by looking at me. But anyway I used my iPad and told him no. Then he started saying how pretty I was. I said thanks then told him I had to go. I didn’t feel safe staying in that store. So I went and pay then left, yes I can drive thank God. I saw him again 3 days later, but this time at Walmart. Again he tried hitting on me, and asking do I live alone and where. I said yes but lied about the town that I was living in. Before I walked away this time, he asking me for my number. I said sorry but no I never saw him again. Then there was another time when I was a teenager I was walking to my friend house. And on the way there a car pulled next to me and asked where’s the hospital. I pointed that way then kept walking. Well he didn’t drive off he slowly followed me then pulled over again. This time he asked could I help him find his dog. For some stupid reason I said yes. So as he was coming out of his car, I finally felt scared and shake my head and went back the way that I was heading. And as he got back into his car he wouldn’t stop following me up and down the street. Looking back I should had gone into the pizza shop and asks them to call my mom but I didn’t. So as I got near the street that my friend lived on. I slow down and waited until he passed me again and out of sight. Then ran as fast as I could before he turn around and came back. I never saw him again thank God. My friend dad took me back home after, I was too scared to walk back.

[@janicebooy1007]

Good grief Tamron learn to let the person tell her own story

[@LN-fi1nf]

I would have liked for the interviewer to not interrupt so much and let the guest talk more.

[@eweiner14]

I’m confused, I thought they were on the roof, didn’t she say she wasn’t going into the apartment?

[@PurrBiteMeow]

They must have jumped cut the story to shorten it ..

[@mommynab]

It's an old trick. I am sure coming down from the roof he made an excuse to go into his apartment and she fell for it. Clearly not the street smartest move but she also broke a bunch of rules. Don't leave a crowded area, don't go anywhere private so the roof wasn't really any better... she just got lucky, he didn't feel like killing at that moment.

[@Musika1321]

As be was naked by the time she ran out the door, perhaps this is why he didn't follow her and then quickly handed her the book. She got lucky.

[@clemdane]

Just when I cancelled my Netflix to save money...now I'm going to have to rejoin to watch this

[@GooinBoots]

It was rlly good. I was surprised. Anna Kendrick did great

[@clemdane]

@@GooinBoots Really want to see it

[@BlueJeansTarot]

I feel you! But it’s so worth it. Quit Netflix next month.

[@clemdane]

@@BlueJeansTarot Yeah I think I'll have to

[@angelabatterton5080]

It was a good film really enjoyed it x

[@heidis8713]

Why have a guest if you are going to tell their story for them??

[@elainewallace-e1o]

This is a horrifying story...Thank goodness you didn't become a victim.

[@PurrBiteMeow]

Bulsh¡t he didnt remember her! He knew goddamn well who she was. Creep.

[@SpykersB]

Oh yes agree he absolutely remembered her, but psychos know what a person wants n love to not give it, part of controlling the situation n enjoying the frustration they give by not answering. Sicko.

[@missmayflower]

He assaulted so many women. Quite possibly he did not remember each one. They wouldn’t be individuals/ people in his mind.

[@maryannmay7105]

Always listen to your gut instincts & never ever be afraid to say no to someone because your safety matters.

[@yahainHotPink]

😮😮 So glad for her. He was horrible!!

[@kellyann2242]

I keep thinking that if she would have told her parents when it happened there could have been lives saved

[@allisonday893]

Stop shaming victims. You have no idea

[@AishawithanEye]

"Everybody looks like a human but not everybody is a human." - Alice Feiring. And we've got a bunch of bobblehead dudes staring into space searching for them. 🙄🛸

[@geenalawrence8338]

I love Tamra but she really should stop interrupting and let her guests tell their story.

[@christineclark2479]

To go to that prison and absorb that energy was a horrible decision. You cannot reason or find “answers” from a serial killer

[@BabyDoll-fs3bu]

So many stories. 51 now ✨I was 16 (extremely naive) walking home at 8:00 pm. This man asked if I needed a ride- I said “No, I live close” I walked faster. His face changed and he had his right hand under a towel on the passenger’s seat - seemed to be holding a gun! He sped up and said “Get in!” His hand was moving and I ran and hid in bushes at my house. He took off n I locked myself inside. He drove up n down the street (I just stood in the dark watching him) Don’t think he believed I lived 2 houses down. Phew!!! I moved to another city 15 minutes away and I swear he lives here! Same car but older scrubbed off paint on purpose and he just looks older but it’s him!

[@bawillard2578]

1969 was another time and place so very different then today.. We have so much information..now.

[@Haileymum254]

Let her tell her damn story!!

[@vanessafranz7744]

She just said she didn’t go to his apt. Only the roof top. So now she’s in his apt.

[@tammysims8716]

"I had an hour to kill"... so did he. Thank God she got away from him.

[@Nigelsmom2136]

Tamron would you PLEASE stop interrupting your guests? Let them SPEAK.

[@mariaelenailla2659]

She should have got answers from her Guardian Angel, not that weirdo... God protected her !!!

[@kaylacharles3186]

So she needs to summon the guardian angel and ask questions? 😂

[@Paradys8]

So did she find out “WHY he didn’t kill her”?!?? 🤨🧐 or the host DIDNT let her speak ?

[@islandgal500]

I think he just said that he didn't remember her. She could have asked why he did not always kill every girl he knew.

[@BenTrue75]

Poor girl seems more terrified of Dads reaction than this rapist!

[@cliobhabie]

That’s what I was thinking cause I would’ve told somebody

[@MoniqueHoyt-t4u]

Ikr​@@cliobhabie

[@TammiJayneishere]

Probably should have reported him to the police.

[@NancyMoran-r3b]

She did!!

[@Cometcast12]

That’s what the movie is about. Tons of women came forward but the police would do nothing