She says she went just to prove her friends wrong but..

[@uncle0eric]

Infidelity is defined by deception and breaching of trust. She ABSOLUTELY was guilty of infidelity.

[@SnowyWolborg]

She's one of those people who will only stay in a relationship until she finds a better deal. If she was loyal, she would have told her friends to screw off and that she would never even entertain the idea of dating someone else while engaged.

[@johnbradbury8610]

@@SnowyWolborg Yeah, and that is you believe her story. She probably slept with him but OP has money and that's why she didn't want to ruin things. When you're an adult you can no longer use "my friends told me to do it" as an excuse.

[@davidj.leavitt7176]

@@SnowyWolborg….Yup, just another cheating 304 sl*t in the making. What do you think would have happened if she was actually honest &truthful, and had told him beforehand that she hada date with another guy? So she broke the engagement promise, didn’t answer his texts or call, lied, evaded answering his questions, cheated on him, and then made herself out to be the victim with her family. What a piece of crap.

[@peterhen7050]

As soon as she said those ill fated words "insecure and conrtolling" you know she was up to no good. Anytime someone uses those words, they are trying to get over with something, and it's never good. Huge Red Flag

[@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121]

Yup. It shows a lack of regard for your partner’s emotions. Always a sign of emotional distancing. A partner that loves you wouldn’t treat you like a stranger.

[@Booker1992]

She tried gaslighting him, but he was too strong and smart for her. Good job, my dude.

[@lifeisamess8100]

Actions have consequences, but she did nothing wrong though. Normal women tend to look for better options while keeping someone as a back-up.

[@milicavujanovic9715]

​@@lifeisamess8100 Yeah, and I'm sure those same women would have nothing against being treated as backup themselves.

[@Holasoyfelipesochao]

@@lifeisamess8100 lying and ignoring his texts isn't bad? while she was with another guy? while she was engaged? no sir, she was wrong, her move works if she's single, not engaged. For me after engaging, if ur still looking for backup, then why the f are you settling by getting engaged? What a rat.

[@arjundhaliwal8853]

@@lifeisamess8100lmao idk what normal women ur talking to but they sounds like gardnening tools

[@VRDejaVu]

​@@lifeisamess8100you do understand that these comments you make are just outing you, right?

[@mannydcbianco]

Always love it when the OP isn't a spineless pushover doormat. Seems like in 95% of all similar stories the OP is weak and forgiving and agrees to give the cheater another chance and so on. So refreshing when the OP stands his or her ground and won't back down, even if it hurts like hell at the time.

[@guyledouche7939]

I just read a really good one where not only did the guy NOT be a doormat, he went out and banged all the female co-workers his wife hated, then showed her pictures and videos of it. Incredible. Men need to be more vindictive. Its the only way they change their behavior.

[@nicknitro86]

She was not pressured, she wanted to.

[@scottm8076]

Pressured??? What was the consequence if she DIDN’T go??? There has to be a negative consequence in order to ‘pressure’ you to do something. She went because she WANTED to go. All women are with the man they’re with until a man they think is ‘better’ becomes available.

[@glundgren2097]

Lying to her parents is proof of her acknowledgment of her wrongdoing. If the truth makes her look bad, then she's bad! Never wait until you have kids and financial ties to wise up!

[@johnbradbury8610]

Op needs to watch out, because she will probably be begging him to take her back when things don't work out.

[@mehdiw8924]

It's when women think their old doormat is still clean enough to be reused

[@Sephlock]

Dude dodged a bullet

[@vamaranthus4555]

If married she would 'cave to peer pressure'. And F every guy her so called friends threw at her.

[@jameslyons6655]

Just to keep everything on track. Her friends have been talking down OP for a while and she didn’t defend him, draw a boundary or let him know about it. Her friends want to set her up on a date even though she is engaged and she doesn’t say no, draw a boundary or let OP know about it. She goes on a date with another man while she is engaged to OP and with the full knowledge of some of her friends absolutely mindless about how disrespectful that is and knowing that if her GFs share this information with others in their friend circle OP will be pitied, clowned and ridiculed. She lies to his face the day of the date and continues to lie and gaslight afterwards. Even after getting caught she still lies about the nature of the date (it was all innocent) and her motive (trying to “prove her friends wrong”). No, she was checking out her options and if she had felt the dude was an upgrade she would have shined OP on. This creature is worthless. Hopefully her friends will continue to keep her single in the future.

[@darthbiscuit]

even gets mad at him for not lying for her after she spread lies about him to her parents

[@bobfg3130]

Those aren't her friends anymore. 😂

[@davidj.leavitt7176]

@@bobfg3130… perhaps. I’m pretty sure that she is still hanging around with them now that she is single. Hell, they will probably set her up with many more “better than him” dates in the future.

[@AliothAncalagon]

If your partner knows that something would hurt you and does it anyway, just find a better partner.

[@urchbsmirch22]

If she really loved him she would have just ignored what they were saying about him and told them to shut their mouth instead of giving it in like that

[@sandman3698]

Easy to say as a man. We tend to hold our own values and opinions higher than other where as women dont. My fiancee whom I had a kid with at the time was talked into leaving me by the woman who birthed me. Just because she was tired of us living in the basement trying to save money for our first place.

[@agm5424]

​​@@sandman3698 Well there's the problem, people having subjective values based on subconscious desires and most likely societal conditioning instead of shared objective morals and values that have been proven to lead to positive outcomes.

[@sandman3698]

@@agm5424 No. Whats wrong is assuming that there is no difference between the genders and expecting eachother to act as eachother instead of themselves. I knew the poisonous snake that birthed me. I knew the social tendencies of the female mind.. Yet I did nothing to keep my fiancee from being poisoned by making sure they had sufficient distance and giving her reassurance. I instead assumed she'd be strong willed enough to see through it. As I am.. Since Im a man. There is no "objective" morals or values. The 2 genders are different. We want and expect very different things from eachother.

[@urchbsmirch22]

@@sandman3698 sounds like to me she was weak-minded and your mother was manipulative I'm sorry you had to go through that

[@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121]

@@sandman3698Mom of the year lol

[@hisdudeness8328]

He should have just said after her claim that it was just dinner to prove her friends wrong, “Ok, hand over your phone. If your texts to your friends match your story, I’ll consider forgiving you.” If she refused to hand over the phone, then he would have known right there that her story was bs.

[@davidj.leavitt7176]

@hisdudeness8328….very good point. All of the texts, social media vlogs, emails, everything. I’m sure that this was set up way in advance and not a sudden spur of the moment thing.

[@treevenewson]

Always trust your gut. Single women keep women single.

[@HumanBeingResisting]

Let's put this into perspective. She was willing to throw him in the dark, by attacking his character calling him insecure and controlling. These types women are evil and can't be trusted

[@jessedunn9835]

So boils down to she cheated becouse her friends wanted her to. She chose to go on a date with another man. She blew him off doing so. Maybe his texts made her not go home with her date but hey, she still cheated, lied and has no true remorse. Guy knows he needs his ring back and to move forward in life. She threw away the relationship together and decided to date another.

[@lgates4]

Does anybody else think there is more to her story than what she told OP?

[@patrickh6571]

No matter if she actually did it with the guy, she wasn't able to stand up to defend her relationship against those so called friends. And instead of telling OP beforehand, she agrees to dinner with the other man and then tries to play mind games.

[@hyperorso4416]

What is up with friend groups ruining relationships? I hear about it constantly

[@ommadawn8434]

She got caught monkey branching. It's that simple.

[@mannydcbianco]

Yup, 100%. And as if going on a damn date wasn't bad enough, then she lied about it and tried to cover it up. Then she attacked OP and called him controlling when he wouldn't back down and accept her non-answers. Then she attacked him again for telling her parents the truth, after she had lied to her parents in order to summon them to attack OP. What a nasty skank of a woman. OP should count himself lucky to have discovered her true self before it was too late.

[@bobfg3130]

Not really. 😆 Make sure the relationship is not transactional. If anyone asks "what are you bringing to the table", it's transactional.

[@BiggusThiccus]

​@@bobfg3130 you are delusional. Of course people have to bring something into a relationship for it to work. It being reciprocal doesn't mean it's transactional.

[@VRDejaVu]

​@@bobfg3130yeah, really.

[@bobfg3130]

@@BiggusThiccus I'm not delusional. You are. 😆 You do that, don't complain if she leaves you. This is what the first dates are for. That not reciprocal, it's transactional.

[@logician32gaming31]

this dude actually has self respect. Bravo

[@mkelly534]

Disaster avoided. She was clearly not ready to be a wife. Or she is a person of very low character that does not believe loyalty is important as long as she is the one getting her cake

[@Steve-nu4sv]

After 6 years together what she did is a clear indication she was willing to 'experiment' why would friends suddenly decide to say "I think you can do better" My suggestion she'd been complaining about you to them! Then she lied to her parents about the situation instead of being honest! "Maybe my friends were right about you" were her final words! Your decision was right. She never once accepted responsibility for HER actions and choices. "It was my friend's idea!" You did not call her parents and tell them anything. Maybe her story sounded sketchy to them so they called you and you told them the truth. Move on concentrate on yourself you deserve better.

[@Levithos]

If she can cave under peer pressure that easily, then what else will she cave under? Having a side guy? Sleeping with someone else?

[@andrewlayton9760]

Just dinner, but out aaaaaaallllllll night with no diqk? Riiiiiight!

[@chetp8423]

Clarity was eventually achieved regarding her weak character. He dodged a bullet. I think a woman calling a man “controlling” has become a big red flag.

[@nephastgweiz1022]

Why are girls friend group constantly trying to ruin their relationship ? Girls between them : "You could do so much better than him honey, you don't even realize. Leave him" Guys between them : "You found a good one, you should really think it through and try to reconciliate I'm sure it will work out"

[@nirolf12]

It's simple, misery loves company

[@agm5424]

And the thing is that when modern women say that a girl is settling what they mean is that she isn't marrying a billionaire that goes on overseas vacations every weekend. Men that would never look at that type of woman twice.

[@armorking7258]

Single women keep woman single

[@XanderKuro]

Can also be that they want the boyfriend and so want them to split so he's single again.

[@emperorconstantinexipalaio4121]

Girls like this want their friend to themselves and don’t want a man in the way. Men are objects to use for short-term pleasure, not serious investments of time, affection, and commitment.

[@scottm8076]

ZERO trust in this behavior!!! If she is so easily duped by her friends then she will be easily ‘talked’ into betrayal in the future.

[@Waluigi7891]

If what she did was as perfectly innocent as she claimed, why did she feel the need to hide it and gaslight him? She knew exactly what she was doing. And her “friends” deliberately sabotaged her relationship. Plenty of modern women can’t stand seeing other women in happy healthy relationships.

[@jacksongunner7122]

I think that she was lying about her friends to deflect from her just going on a date with a guy that hit her up that she thought was better than OP. The gf sounds like a coward that uses lies and distortions of the truth to make her look good while avoiding conflict. Really what she did is not all that uncommon, once she had her beta provider locked down with the engagement it was time to get a little side action in with Chad.

[@reedergrant6108]

Let here and her friends have each other. She did you a favor.

[@aussiewalkabout4x4]

Ask for the ring back, If she shows you this much disrespect its not worth staying with her.

[@janvajs6139]

absolute lack of respect from her side ... good for guy that he broke up with her because she is definitely a cheating material.

[@dollyl5596]

Her friends had that much influence? I don’t think so, more like she had ALWAYS been one of them just did not want to admit it to herself. she chose to not contain during the whole “date”, dodged his questions, gaslight him, and even lied to her own parents to save herself from being a disappointment to her parents and threw OP under the bus. And also she did not really defend him from her friends who talked behind his back and thought he was not enough for her so they looked for someone suitable to their taste which eventually she gave in and said “I should have believed my friends…” line in admission she never really cared about OP gotta ask these friends though is apologizing for the ex for pressuring her on that date? Or because talked negatively about him? Because either of these, their apologies are complete BS

[@damoneboyd9945]

If wanted to prove them wrong why go

[@deathcyth1987]

"Now that I've tried out other dudes i know you're the best one so.... you know unless someone better comes along in your!" 😂 real attractive package there

[@michaelsutton3092]

She did what she did to prove beyond any doubt that she can't be trusted to not cheat

[@hockey_rules]

Yeah, she didn’t just have dinner with the guy - she slept with him. After Op went to her parents to tell them the whole story, and then she gets mad and says her friends were right about him being less than what she should settle for, it brought out her true nature. My guess is, between her and her friends, they are going to end up being lonely cat ladies.

[@darrellgray191]

The love of your life 😂 break off the engagement !!

[@carson2646]

what really happened here is some jealous woman sabotaged their friends relationship to get their wing girl back. Misery loves company and she fell for it. Never underestimate your girls ability to be influenced by stupid idea's from her friends.

[@RedditTales68]

This story is a great reminder of important values and life lessons

[@TheCentralScrutinizerAgain]

Lying is a small leap to cheating.

[@johnbutler1323]

She went radio silent for rhe entire night. It was more than "just dinner."

[@csatterley]

Birds of feather flock together, she is no different to her friends. They were all massively overconfident she could behave how she liked without consequences, didn't even think it through properly. The real her was the one who called him after he let her parents know the truth. Bullet dodged.

[@justinchristoph3725]

A woman I knew was told this by her friends father: If something feels wrong, listen to it because unless you're a paranoid, nine times out of ten, your instinct is steering you in the right direction.

[@gwenrichard7507]

Ladies, your single friends are going to try to keep you single until you date a guy they want.

[@jacobkimble9757]

Well now she's free to get that better option that her friends convinced her was out there.

[@TheCentralScrutinizerAgain]

Ah, the standard cheating `insecure and controlling` tags.

[@DarkMage1100]

Even if she went only on a date, there isnt a valid reason to not answer your fiance unless its more than meet the eye, and im sure there is some dirt under the carpet which she didnt wanted to be found

[@anastasevlasseros9658]

You're a hero buddy

[@eleethtahgra7182]

6:00 nah. No dinner with opposite sex in private setting.

[@agm5424]

When modern women say that a girl is settling what they mean is that she isn't marrying a billionaire that goes in overseas vacations every weekend.

[@mafer4443]

I recently read a similar story, only in that case they got married and after giving birth she found out that her husband had a date with his ex weeks before the wedding. At least here, he found out before the wedding.

[@karishma_k]

Yup he got lucky!

[@bobfg3130]

She just blocked her friends after this. 😆 I get the feeling she probably blames her parents too. Sure, her parents did damage her chances of getting OP back. She will he on her own.

[@Aznataku02]

Classic example of single women keep other women single.

[@theoneandonly9775]

my guess is her friends are single

[@nunomateus243]

if it was just a dinner then why didnt she answer him during? whats was the problem with sending a text? yeah she sus af! cheater for sure!

[@stevebowman421]

She caved once she will do it again, so good move man.

[@kilamkam]

Her friends just hadddd to ruin a relationship.. Single women keep women single.. Now she about to be hitting the streets at 29yrs old being a 304.. When she should have been getting married and starting a family....

[@TheSean89420]

She will be single n run through 4 a few years before "settling" again 😂

[@TK8866275]

When his engaged fiancée started to blame her friends for organizing the date, OP should've started to ask more specific questions about them. Who actually said what and whose friend the other guy in the secret date was, whose idea the date was etc. At that point even if OP hasn't yet decided to break the engagement, he should've realized that her friends are the real enemy and he can't continue their relationship as long they're still in the picture. OP should've also started to extend his line of questions about the relationships her friends have and why do they think their relationships are better than what OP has with his fiancée or if they are cheating for their SO's as an attempt to make her badmouth them and get all kinds of dirt about them. Women are constantly disloyal to each others and even a little bit encouraging combined with some guilt-tripping would've probably made her reveal all their secrets to OP. If OP then still liked to continue relationship in the end he should've presented an ultimatum for his fiancée to choose between him or her toxic friends. If she chooses her friends then the break up is imminent but with the information he learned about the coven he could've make sure that his ex-fiancée becames pariah and they'd cut contact with her. Even if she chooses him he should've make it one the condition for continuing that it's she who'd divulge the information to ensure that also her friends will cut her off.

[@JoeUzzolino]

Take the ring money and rent a call girl. Best $250 you’ll ever spend.

[@009AWB]

She should just go ahead and marry her friends.

[@columkenn]

The very dumbest excuse for cheating. She wanted to prove her friends wrong)) Just after getting engaged and she goes on dates with other dudes. Dumping her was the only option.

[@Direwolf216]

All her friends are single carousel riders who can't stand to see someone in a happy, committed relationship. They convinced her that she needs to ride the carousel for a while before she 'settles' for OP (the 'safe' option) and gets married. The friends forgot to tell her how to lie to OP (and her family) so she got busted. In the end, her friends won. By the end of the week she was definitely 'dating' the dinner guy (who has definitely been with all her friends) or some other random Chad.

[@triggerticker]

I wanted to prove them wrong. By going on a date with someone else, you are proving them right lol 😂😂😂

[@jacqmarthy536]

Pressured is only an acceptable reason when you're a kid. If not it's just agreement

[@robertcampbell9550]

This sounds suspiciously like a sister code ridiculous cover story for a last ride before marriage. You have to make it so ridiculous that it can't be made up. She went on a date to spite her friends. And in defence of her fiance really, she was protecting his honor. So she goes out, gets blown out, and if he asks questions then blame crazy story and all her friends are the bad guys and she is on his side.

[@Educated_Guesser]

Engaged women don't go shopping for a new husband. That's what married women do.

[@mikeh3240]

This one gave me a good laugh lol.

[@weezee123456]

I wouldn't believe the story of her friends talking her into it. Go ask her friends, I'll bet theres a different story. Guaranteed she knows the guy

[@graysoldier]

Bad decision. Didn’t think this through.

[@johnbalogna803]

Run Forest Run. If she was not secure enough in you and your relationship to tell her friends to piss off what's next?? After a few years of marriage her 304 friends convince her she's entitled to a little something on the side? Again run forest run and don't look back.

[@coolgoyim1133]

Imagine thinking its alright to go on a date with another person after just getting engaged “to prove them wrong”. She gone there with curiousity to try another guy, she kept gaslighting him

[@remeokits]

Woman give each other bad advice and cant stand others beeing happy. So they sabotage.

[@guyledouche7939]

Its vicarious living. Women view their lives as a novel....it's a part of their low level psychopathy and NPD that the overwhelming majority of women under 40 in the anglosphere have but go undiagnosed. Everyone, including their children and husbands, are just characters to make HER story seem more interesting. So other women will live vicariously through others and advise married/engaged women to throw it all away for something new and exciting...because a novel about a girl that gets married, has kids, and lives a comfortable married life is boring. A girl that gets the marriage chapter in her book...AND the chapter where she is in a whirlwind relationship with a stud who's amazing in bed is the goal for most women...and it doesn't matter which order those chapters occur, because again, most women don't REALLY have empathy (even for people they claim to love)...they know how to emulate empathy to bolster their social capital and manipulate people into thinking they're less selfish than they are.

[@blackfire6009]

You can probably forgive her for everything that transpired with her friends: being pressured and worked and convinced she's settling down etc, I mean, insecurity can rise at moments of stress. Maybe she's even telling the truth about not wanting the other guy initially and also being pressured into. **BUT** you can never forgive her for cheating. She litterally went to a romantic dinner (which she knew was a romantic dinner) with another man. That's cheating 101, period. The reason is irrelevant : -she was unhappy with you: well she cheated -she was pressured and never wantedthat (although, you'll note she said she realize she wanted to be with you *after* the dinner, so she was open to the guy *before*) : she still did it, what does it say about her character, what about when office gossip convince her to go with the new manager? -she never told you about either doubts or her friends behavior: if she's unwilling to trust and share with you something that grave, how many things has she hidden? -she actively lied to you: so she at least knows what she did yet argues that it isn't what it is. -she's surrounded by people constantly trying to break you up, do you want to live like that? Sometimes you really don't know someone as well as you though

[@009AWB]

She can just marry her friends since they matter more to her than her fiancé.

[@glundgren2097]

Omissions are lies!

[@kingsking2816]

6 years you can notice the slightest difference with your partner ..

[@MikhailScottKy]

IF you gave her the ring GET IT BACK!!!! The ring is conditional assuming there is a wedding. NO Wedding means you get the ring back!!!!!

[@scotthinger6397]

Single women keep women single.

[@3333-e1d]

She went out with another man. The reason doesn't matter.

[@TechnoMageB5]

If your girl uses "insecure and controlling": "Oh no, I wouldn't want to be that!" /takes ring back... "There. You're free now. Go be with whomever you want. It was nice while it lasted. Good bye." Then leave. She wants to act single, let her BE single! If enough men did that, the "insecure and controlling" manipulation would disappear.

[@dank_jetha-memes]

All i see is now completed group of single cat ladies. The other cat ladies wanted to make her a catlady and succeeded

[@eleethtahgra7182]

Sooo....she tried to monkey branch.

[@draconisdragonheart4248]

The fact that she can cave in to peer pressure is the exact reason you don't want to marry her.

[@marcusduncan7546]

Dodge a bullet

[@JoeUzzolino]

Eject brother….eject!!!

[@tabicat.puccino7425]

left her

[@BetaRayBill-yx9eb]

And she left out the part where she slept with him. You were so lucky. The same friends would’ve talked her into cheating after she got married or during the bachelorette party.

[@michaelharris6662]

If she continually goes out with her single friends, then she needs to be single because the guy will soon be.

[@mehdiw8924]

The moment she used the word "insecure" OP should've dumped her

[@Detector1977]

Talk about real trash. IF it was only dinner there is NO WAY she wouldn't have answered any calls during the evening/night. 6 years and she cared that little....

[@dougboggs1042]

I think calling off the wedding because she was trying to show her friends they were wrong by JUST having dinner with this guy an that's the only thing she did I think she is better off without you

[@JasonWildy]

You can't be serious, her friends are that important that she goes with their advice? That marriage would be dictated to and controlled by her friends!!!you are an almighty fool!!!

[@Arizona1776]

Women wonder why men dont marry them after a year or two. Six years and she cheated. It was more than a date the 304 did nor go back to her friends to prove they were wrong, she wqs at the new guys house. So the worse rhat happened to this guy was the loss of six years. Had he been married, he would have loss 50 percent and paid her alimony.

[@scaredpaul540]

Always when i see that woman is older then guy i cringe...dude, breakup with old hag cheater first, hit gym excessively, work overtimes and when youre 30 start again with undamaged girls not older than 25...you welcome

[@glundgren2097]

DTB!

[@paulefstathiou1819]

Sketchy ..... , ??

[@johnbradbury8610]

the first 2:46 are OP rambling like a teenage girl.

[@adityanair4185]

Poor girl. OP was a controlling bf.

[@ronaldocruz4594]

@@adityanair4185 troll

[@alphaq3368]

It's obvious this guy truly didn't love her and good thing they didn't get married. She does deserve better

[@BenDerHoverunicorn]

and she will run to that guy who 100% will ghost her or use her for sex and then run away from her. The fact the friends are that awful tells me that guy 100% is a tool who uses women. if she is smart, which she obviously isn't, she would dump all those friends and find better friends who wont ruin her relationship. albeit, she will probably end up having like 5 baby daddies now.