She Was Born Different - But Nobody Told Her.

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@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for all of the kind words, I really appreciate it. It's crazy to me just how many people this has helped, and it's all I ever wanted from this video. So again, thank you, you're all fantastic
@dappercoat249
@dappercoat249 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t really know if your open to questions but figured I could ask anyway and hope it doesn’t come off as rude; What is non-binary? Cause I kind of get it but also kind of don’t and figured best way to find an answer was to ask a non-binary person.
@Bigdumdum3
@Bigdumdum3 2 жыл бұрын
@@dappercoat249 so im not non-binary but i have a few friends who are and from my understanding, i believe it's somebody who dosent neccesarily apply to a sexuality or gender and is kind of a middle ground I think, but if this dosent help there is always google Edit: ok I found a definition, nobody fear for google is here, "Non-binary or genderqueer is an umbrella term for gender identities that are neither male nor female‍-‌identities that are outside the gender binary. Non-binary identities fall under the transgender umbrella, since non-binary people typically identify with a gender that is different from their assigned sex, though some non-binary individuals do not consider themselves transgender."
@dappercoat249
@dappercoat249 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bigdumdum3 Thank you!
@somelass231
@somelass231 2 жыл бұрын
@@dappercoat249 idk if this’ll be entirely correct, but it’s everything that falls outside of the definition of male/female. it could be a middle ground, it could be closer to one than tho other, it could be neither, but it’s still non binary, i think
@Bigdumdum3
@Bigdumdum3 2 жыл бұрын
@@dappercoat249 np
@justaperson8381
@justaperson8381 2 жыл бұрын
I've known an intersex person before, their mother used their condition as an excuse to treat them like a female despite them being a majority male (from what they've told me I haven't looked at their genitals for obvious reasons) I feel the condition is quite misunderstood and it's great to see someone talk about it.
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, a lot of intersex people suffer like that, parents will usually completely cover it up, or use it as ammunition to push their child to be what they want them to be. There's a character in 'Assassination Classroom' who is implied to be intersex, and his mother forces him to be a girl despite him feeling strongly male. It was super impactful to see
@mooshroom3475
@mooshroom3475 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster nagisa :D
@hasanmuttaqin464
@hasanmuttaqin464 2 жыл бұрын
@@mooshroom3475 poor nagi, f
@AMIRRRR510
@AMIRRRR510 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster omg nooo I wanna hug nagisa now 😭
@greysonholtz
@greysonholtz 2 жыл бұрын
It's the shittiest thing that parents get to choose their kids gender despite them being born as intersex, raise the kid as intersex or raise the kid as what they say they want to be.
@iamrazor9831
@iamrazor9831 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how much better her life would've been if she'd been born into a loving family
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder that a lot myself, I'm still terrified of my biological family appearing out of nowhere and being abusive, dismissive, etc. But I've managed to move past a lot of what happened to me, and my friend's family are pretty much my own now! I even adopted their last name, they've been so good to me
@bread8507
@bread8507 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster good on you my guy!
@somelass231
@somelass231 2 жыл бұрын
@@bread8507 she’s a gal
@lahar2412
@lahar2412 2 жыл бұрын
@@somelass231 guy can be used for both genders
@Night_Stary
@Night_Stary 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. Ngl, this story hit me hard
@MasterMagikarp
@MasterMagikarp 2 жыл бұрын
Evie: * has an insane amount of evidence pointing to being intersex * Doctor: *Nah.*
@Danshy1803
@Danshy1803 2 жыл бұрын
This sign won't stop me, because I can't read*
@Nitram4392
@Nitram4392 2 жыл бұрын
"I reject your reality and substitude it with my own."
@originalname5096
@originalname5096 2 жыл бұрын
"But it's sooooo rare. You can't possibly have this rare condition I've never had anyone else come in for"
@MasterMagikarp
@MasterMagikarp 2 жыл бұрын
@@originalname5096 yeah even though it’s rare doesn’t mean it’s impossible to have.
@originalname5096
@originalname5096 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterMagikarp Absolutely. A rare chance is still non-zero
@Buselmann
@Buselmann 2 жыл бұрын
I've only learned about this in biology class before, but hearing about an intersexual person and their experiences is really cool
@mason4903
@mason4903 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard about this just till now
@seantaggart7382
@seantaggart7382 2 жыл бұрын
They are pretty cool One guy could have gotten pregnant but was unable to But imagine that? And there is no way to say *they are female* when reality they are both so technically a guy could have gave birth Now that is interesting
@alwaysyouramanda
@alwaysyouramanda 2 жыл бұрын
I wish it was mentioned more!
@ssffe529
@ssffe529 2 жыл бұрын
@@seantaggart7382 Males can't give birth as they don't reproduce large gametes and only produce small gametes. Intersex males still produce small gametes or can often be infertile due to their condition.
@seantaggart7382
@seantaggart7382 2 жыл бұрын
@@ssffe529 but maybe with the right tech maybe?
@Cole-te2rz
@Cole-te2rz 2 жыл бұрын
I am intersex as well. I feel like its not as uncommon as people may think. I knew a guy who got into a crash accident and had to be operated on, and when they opened him up they found ovaries.
@petergraywolf6671
@petergraywolf6671 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is like with autism, are really more and more autistic people being born, or just more autistic people diagnosed ? (no matter if self diagnosis or by the medical professional) and same goes for so many other things... propably much more common than people think.
@BygoneT
@BygoneT 2 жыл бұрын
@@petergraywolf6671 Autism and having ovaries as a man, are two very different things
@petergraywolf6671
@petergraywolf6671 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneT no shit Sherlock. The point stands the same, same as with autism, there can be enough and more than they thought bigender people or how to call them (i mean biologically, dont mean trans) therefore i dont understand your comment ? of course they are two very different things, yet i used autism as example for to make certain rational point.
@petergraywolf6671
@petergraywolf6671 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneT you heard her in the video right ? even when they were finding out things like she having ovaries, still they didnt accepted she could be bigender since ,,it is too rare" so even when confronted with proofs or partial proofs doctors were in denial. So yeah logically it is much much more common than we think, when someone who had even biological proofs still (atleast for some time) could not find a doctor who would not be in denial
@petergraywolf6671
@petergraywolf6671 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneT PS: even tho science still doesnt know what causes autism, it is being suggested that people are born that way. NeuroATYPICAL is common term for autistic people, specially since so many autistic people doesnt see it as ilness or disorder (since it has both advantages and disadvantages and it is part of who they are.. they are simply different... it is like claiming that if you have Linux on your Pc your Pc is broken because Windows is the most common operating system) even after many years of research, so little is known about autism. And it will be quite similar with this bigender issue. Where not enough research is being done, plus it takes too many years, plus doctors being in denial even when confronted with proofs.... Doctors are not immune to cognitive dissonance and many suffer from it obviously.
@HRIWanderousOne
@HRIWanderousOne 2 жыл бұрын
I've only heard of this condition once before in a medical documentary, so a personal account of what it was like to go through everyday life went over my head at first, then became immediately frustrating for how much Evies privacy was disrespected. Love how this channel raises awareness of what living is like for so many diverse people
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I chose Azeal to do this interview with because his channel is so laser-focused on hearing the story of those who have something to share, it's always educational and wonderful. And yes, I basically had zero privacy for the majority of my childhood, and it was the worst. Still, I'm in a much better place now
@TheNunWhoKnocks
@TheNunWhoKnocks 2 жыл бұрын
Then KZbin demonizes his videos
@silver1253
@silver1253 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster I imagine your smile like the profile picture 😊
@goldjaws
@goldjaws 2 жыл бұрын
I've known of this type of "condition" for a lack of a better word I honestly have gotten into a great deal of arguments on this subject because allot of people refuse to admit this kind of thing happens and that is saddening and frustrating I don't think i know anyone with a similar condition but i just think this a conversation that needs to brought up more often both because the the people with condition might end up outcastes and because we need understand the people we interact with if we're going to tell them what to do I apologize if i have in some way depersonalized the situation as that was not my intent
@dailysacrificedoublee
@dailysacrificedoublee 2 жыл бұрын
I’d always assumed this existed and was unsurprised to find out it did. Never thought much about the social implications.
@jvr543
@jvr543 2 жыл бұрын
I just hope one day her mom can notice what a great of a human being you're, and that she is actually losing the opportunity to see you become an incredible person as you grow in life.
@silver1253
@silver1253 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly that's not a choice 😕 sometimes people are just delusional and naive about these kind of things especially the parents how can her mother do that to her that's unfair and unjustified just because she didn't understand
@cytusallcore
@cytusallcore 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that at some point everyone can do this. I was lucky enough to get a dad who doesn't openly support ace me and gay brother, but at the same time doesn't straight up kick us out of the family or hate or degenerize us because of it. We still talk and hang out just never talk about lgbtq+ because it's a sore spot. And my school was very open about this stuff too. Almost no bullying happened and when it did. No one stood idly and watched. I remember one time a teacher through one of those heavy textbooks at a student because the student was openly bullying another and before the 10 or so others got to him the teacher was there. (This is the same teacher that caught a student bringing moonshine into class and instead of reprimand, he took a bottle of whiskey out of his desk and drank with her. It was the last day of school and he was retiring) Side note. It's not grammatical incorrect but for some reason it bothers me that you used you're instead of you are there. Because you're is commonly used to describe what you do. Not trying to correct you but I just wanted to say it because ocd and adhd
@eugenewaterslide7328
@eugenewaterslide7328 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly: just because you're means you are in some instances doesn't mean it's a shortened slang version, you're is only applicable with a verb or noun after it. What a great person you're: incorrect You're a great person: correct Secondly no, her mums decided not to do that and that's likely the end of that. Thirdly you're judging this entire person off of one thing, you don't know if she is or isn't a great person, you could literally be describing a peadofile. Like why go entirely off of one thing for anybody. Fourthly parents aren't required to accept their child for anything, good ones do though. Fifthly you've got an anime profile picture, and support subjective identity but will likely get offended if somebody says subjective gender identity isn't solid. Sixthly I can see that one person in the comments taking some deep breaths and getting ready to say "you said that he shouldn't base her as an entire person off of one thing, but also based JaeyoVR off of the fact they've got an anime profile picture", and to that I say, I'm basing one reaction off of their profile picture and comment, not them as a whole person.
@michaellane4054
@michaellane4054 2 жыл бұрын
@@cytusallcore wow! I would have loved a teacher like that.
@somelass231
@somelass231 2 жыл бұрын
i am not intersex, but as soon as she talked about coming out to her mom and she “not agreeing” with it and making jabs about not saying that kind of thing anymore reeeeaaaally hit me hard because i am treated the same way currently. it hurts to have to lock yourself in the closet and throw the key out, but y’know, i can’t do anything else currently.
@somelass231
@somelass231 2 жыл бұрын
i hope evie is doing well now at least :]
@Hockeytimeforlife
@Hockeytimeforlife 2 жыл бұрын
same
@somelass231
@somelass231 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hockeytimeforlife I’m sorry about that, i hope things get better for you soon
@Hockeytimeforlife
@Hockeytimeforlife 2 жыл бұрын
@@somelass231 its more like a off on thing like i forget the trash and then the bottle of soap get thorwed at me
@Hockeytimeforlife
@Hockeytimeforlife 2 жыл бұрын
form my mom or she hit me she really just uses anything near here to make more pain
@darienb1127
@darienb1127 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly unrelated, but their model is so cute! I love it so much! And I love how the mouth is actually a set of audio bars instead of a mouth, that's so cool!
@finn3448
@finn3448 2 жыл бұрын
So I wasn't the only one thinking that xd
@IndustrialParrot2816
@IndustrialParrot2816 2 жыл бұрын
i know also it looks like those mining robots from murder drones
@SirZelean
@SirZelean 2 жыл бұрын
I also loved how her mic's sound going weird actually fit pretty well with that xD
@jlbjlb
@jlbjlb 2 жыл бұрын
@@IndustrialParrot2816 I love Glitch productions (Smg4) murder drones
@secretly8072
@secretly8072 2 жыл бұрын
it looks like a worker/murder drone
@Biodrox
@Biodrox 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s really cool to hear a intersex person’s experience, because there’s a lot of things in their life. Yes I know what intersex was, but never really looked into it that much til now
@Azeal
@Azeal 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you learned something!
@sugarnova5522
@sugarnova5522 2 жыл бұрын
Not only were her parents so frustrating, but honestly hearing the incompetence of medical professionals made my blood boil. I feel so bad for her having to go through such a bad experience. I wish her the best in her life going forward, from one nonbinary individual to another.
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Yeah authority figures aren't always right, and I'm glad people are starting to question the status quo. We should be led by evidence, not ignorance
@sugarnova5522
@sugarnova5522 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster 100% agree. Thank you so much for sharing your story. You have such a lovely speaking voice and I'm looking forward to reading your graphic novel!
@eugenewaterslide7328
@eugenewaterslide7328 2 жыл бұрын
She's non binary because she was literally born without a specific gender. You're non binary because you choose to be, it's a subjective identity that you can change at any point should you decide, same as how you chose to be non binary to begin with. So that lil "from one non binary individual to another" means nothing aside from "I'm on the same level as you, even though you were born this way and I'm choosing to say I am"
@sugarnova5522
@sugarnova5522 2 жыл бұрын
@@eugenewaterslide7328 if that's what you believe then I don't think you truly listened to what she had to say during her video. While, yes, she is intersex, she also several times did question her gender identity (ei, wether she wanted to present as male, female, nonbinary, etc.). Sex and gender are two different and separate concepts. So yes, while I'm stuck with my sexual hardware (without surgical intervention), and can choose to change the gender I identify as, that also does apply to her as well - and all individuals. And, as is the case with myself, most nonbinary people suffer from gender dysphoria - which isn't something I just woke up and decided "to have". I was assigned female at birth but from young as I could remember I wish I had been born a boy (even telling my parents on several occasions that I wish I had been born as a boy). But as became an adult, I didn't really find comfort in that either, finding myself weirdly unattached regardless of the anatomy I envisioned myself with. Those feelings don't come from the genitalia I was born with...nor is it something I feel like I could change or discard so simply. Your gender identity is part of your /Identity/. While it's always okay to change aspects of yourself and your identity it's never just lightly taken.
@eugenewaterslide7328
@eugenewaterslide7328 2 жыл бұрын
@@sugarnova5522 aaahhh a paragraph, my need to troll can rest easy now, twas a reaction I wanted, and a reaction I got. Enjoy ur identity, or don't, it's ur thing and I'll let u do u bro
@Allplussomeminus
@Allplussomeminus 2 жыл бұрын
Even their voice sounds like both depending on how you imagine the person. Either a deep, soft female voice, or very tenor male.
@nukiradio
@nukiradio 2 жыл бұрын
Just an intersex voice
@BygoneT
@BygoneT 2 жыл бұрын
I don't hear the male
@tecc9999
@tecc9999 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneT and i can barely hear a female. she’s intersex, so that’s not surprising lol
@BygoneT
@BygoneT 2 жыл бұрын
@@tecc9999 I should be able to hear both
@lone2234
@lone2234 2 жыл бұрын
@@BygoneT Her voice is very androgynous to me. Just like other lovely sound waves in the world everyone hears it differently and thats cool. If you can't hear both than thats ok.
@brenndanmcdonaugh1672
@brenndanmcdonaugh1672 2 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting to hear a testimonial from someone who has an intersex condition. It's somewhat rare yes, but when you hear the experiences of something you've only read about in books. It humanizes the people with this condition. Being intersex is actually a lot more common than people think. The reason it's not talked about more, is that parents choose not to disclose the corrective surgery in favor of making the decision and forgetting about it. Since some Intersex conditions can effect fertility some people don't learn they are intersex until they try to have children and discover their chromosomes are a-typical.
@brenndanmcdonaugh1672
@brenndanmcdonaugh1672 2 жыл бұрын
@Sydney McKee I'm happy you feel less alone. Maybe join a community online. There's definitely some for intersex people!
@Steph.98114
@Steph.98114 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even that uncommon, about 1-2 people per 100 are intersex
@sopadumacacoumadelicia5
@sopadumacacoumadelicia5 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you, brother. Ad Victoriam, as the power armored nazis would say 🗿
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, can you imagine? "Doctor why is my sperm count so low" "You never actually had balls. What's in your scrotum probably used to be ovaries, but by now they're probably tumors. Good day, sir."
@lucianogonzalez9227
@lucianogonzalez9227 2 жыл бұрын
The part of the letter to her mother actually hit me. I actually did leave one for mine(telling her I am pansexual). She straight up told me it was the worst day of her life after knowing that. Thanks mom. You just showed your kid how self centered you are. My best wishes to Evie and hope she enjoy her time doing the Q&A
@JettySpaghetti1
@JettySpaghetti1 2 жыл бұрын
Stay the fuck away from my pans bro, you DONT wanna mess with me 😈🤜
@thegreydragon954
@thegreydragon954 2 жыл бұрын
@@JettySpaghetti1 Yeah this person stole my frying pan and now I can’t eat eggs anymore. :(
@JettySpaghetti1
@JettySpaghetti1 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegreydragon954 wait seriously?! Hold on a second
@JettySpaghetti1
@JettySpaghetti1 2 жыл бұрын
What tf bro u stole his pan?! U know what square up bro right now!
@toasxter9804
@toasxter9804 2 жыл бұрын
poor mother
@mataschmata
@mataschmata 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to give Evie a hug after hearing all of this. She seems like such an amazing and intelligent person.
@lazybones8962
@lazybones8962 2 жыл бұрын
Parents are supposed to support you for who you are, it absolutely hurts me to hear about these Parents who refuse to accept their children for who they are.
@cowboysandallthegoodstuff3713
@cowboysandallthegoodstuff3713 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1 did you forget the part where he was abusive to his family and emotionally and physically assaulted them
@dwagon6706
@dwagon6706 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1 oh no a child abuser died. How sad ;(
@dwagon6706
@dwagon6706 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1 she was never his son and he literally broke her ribs at some point
@pewpewcricketsalt5574
@pewpewcricketsalt5574 2 жыл бұрын
If I told my dad if I was anything but straight he would.... I do'nt even know
@Syntheticbreed
@Syntheticbreed 2 жыл бұрын
There's a quote that I live my life by, especially in vrchat. "Sharing tea with a fascinating stranger is one of life's true delights." Thank you for sharing your story. It's truly an eye opener. I'm in my mid 30's and I've been on a journey of becoming a better, more accepting person for almost a decade now, and hearing personal stories like this helps with the learning process. I wish Evie the best of luck in her journey through life.
@whyisyoutubeshowinghandles
@whyisyoutubeshowinghandles 3 ай бұрын
I'm like two years late but is that a quote from Uncle Iroh?
@sankyumiku
@sankyumiku 2 жыл бұрын
This was such an eye-opener and definitely made me learn so much about not only intersex, but gender and sexual identity. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@bibliosmiia
@bibliosmiia 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1 ...
@somelass231
@somelass231 2 жыл бұрын
@selenite. this is like next level transph0bia from this guy cishets when biology tells them gender isn’t binary
@jewelswhite5366
@jewelswhite5366 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, being intersex is only relatively rare. It's about as rare as having red hair. Imagine all the people with red hair you've ever met or seen on TV in your life. There are just as many intersex people walking around you!
@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811
@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's considering the secondary sex features when the primary sex features are intersex it's more rare but doesn't mean they don't matter.
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
@@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4811 The condition is about how the body develops, though, not specifically about sex characteristics. You could be a chimera and have all your body of one karyotype and your spleen of another, medically that still counts as intersex, no? Not that anyone would find out unless you had a medical reason to DNA test your spleen. Hell, maybe I have a female pancreas and never knew, the possibilities are endless. (I'm oversimplifying to the point of cartoonishly wrong, it's just to say that the biology of these things doesn't really work by considering the body as one whole, it's all about localized phenomena within the body)
@fujeeb1354
@fujeeb1354 2 жыл бұрын
I knew about this condition, but to hear a person talk about it gives more understanding to the condition. I always knew/imagined people would be freaks around people like them, but to learn that even doctors were dismissive is sad. I am so glad Evie grew up to be such a strong person. Sending lots of love to Evie and even a virtual hug if they want it ♥
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
Virtual hug accepted! I'm glad you liked the interview
@Dan280974
@Dan280974 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster how wholesome
@Saltylolz
@Saltylolz 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad that they had to go through this,they were so kind throughout this aswell! But besides the topic,I love their avatar and they seem very nice.
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
Ah thank you! I just tried to be me
@Saltylolz
@Saltylolz 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster ahh Hello! I just really like the whole vibe. It suits you very well!
@angrimelon7551
@angrimelon7551 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a character from compass?
@beetleknight4661
@beetleknight4661 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool to learn about because i didn't know intersex was a thing but learning it is so cool, but it's also sad to hear about how doctors and parents are towards intersex children, like me personally if i ever had a kid and they were intersex i would tell them about it (well as much as i know anyway) because I would want them to know that they are intersex and that they get a choice of what they want to identify as male, female or non-binary but that's just my thought on it anyway but yea thank you for this video because from what I've watched so far it's taught me quite a bit and I've learnt something new
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad! And that's absolutely the right way to handle an intersex child, always be up front, and let them know the power to figure out who they are is in their hands.
@superduperbooper3987
@superduperbooper3987 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster I’m sorry to hear about your story of your abuse at school and at home. My middle school years were hell because of how my mind works. Even though I am male and I identify as I man, I am a more sensitive person. I am also easy crier(not as easy as I used to) and I got angry easily as well. Especially as a boy, people made fun of me for being sensitive that by the end of middle school, I cut myself off emotionally from many of the people I knew at school. I only ended up feeling better slowly but sure each year after I met a girl from Taiwan during my freshman year of highschool who accepted me for who I am. It was only until my senior year I truly felt comfortable with my friends. Now I’m in college and even though I am still an introvert, I am much more open to people. P. S. I am still really good friends with her even after she moved back to Taiwan.
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose the full thing is they get a choice anyway, innit?
@fmf5304
@fmf5304 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if intersex conditions are so rare because doctors wont diagnose them as such.
@Azeal
@Azeal 2 жыл бұрын
that's a very good question actually.
@predatedcoma2379
@predatedcoma2379 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who only believed a person could be male or female this has really helped me open up too people being beyond those 2 groupings. I used to think people who said that they were trans or non-binary just weren’t right in the head because to me it was a matter of wether or not you had a certain type of junk, but hearing this has really helped open myself to seeing people beyond just male and female. Thank you both for sharing this story and posting it for people like me who just didn’t understand why people wouldn’t fall into the 2 common genders, I hope more people will see this and open up like I did and see the world from a less narrow view of the world, thank you Evie for sharing your story about being non-binary and finding out your own place in the world despite some of the people in your life being against how you want to be, and thank you Azeal for giving people a way to share their life experiences and how they handled them.
@Steph.98114
@Steph.98114 2 жыл бұрын
Please continue to learn about this, the more we educate people the less hate there is in the world
@AdriftInTheWatersGorge
@AdriftInTheWatersGorge 2 жыл бұрын
Look up 2 spirit as well, indigenous cultures and various religions had experiences with gender identity as well... its not new and its not a disorder its a wide vast multitude of different people having similar experiences as people
@drzaius8430
@drzaius8430 2 жыл бұрын
@@caseyschannel you can't argue with the sick Casey, these people loth their ancestors and despise their heritage. They grasp nothing of what it means to feel a link there people so they don't understand other cultures either. You can not understand others if you do not understand yourself. I love me Celtic and Norse heritage, my red beard and green eyes are a testimony to that my people existed. Also 3rd gen American so that probably helps me to know my bloodline. Don't feel to bad, people think my ancestors where the game skyrim lol. Horned helmits and meed alday.
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steph.98114 So much of the "hate" people suffer isn't actually originated as hate. It really does start off as ignorance, not that it makes much difference to the outcomes.
@jambott5520
@jambott5520 2 жыл бұрын
@@Poldovico where there is ignorance someome with bad intentions can fill on the gaps with hateful rhetoric. Or even someone who just makes baseless assumptions based on the norms of the society they are in, that happens a lot.
@spritebug3666
@spritebug3666 2 жыл бұрын
major props to the friends that pulled them out of their abusive household. sending hugs to you, Evie!
@Mo-xj4yd
@Mo-xj4yd 2 жыл бұрын
Its reeeally good that you do those videos. Even if you dont have many videos they are still informative. You deserve more reach.
@Mo-xj4yd
@Mo-xj4yd 2 жыл бұрын
(My english isnt good so sorry if i write something wrong)
@Azeal
@Azeal 2 жыл бұрын
thanks so much!! your english is great :)
@Mo-xj4yd
@Mo-xj4yd 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@darthrevan431
@darthrevan431 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mo-xj4yd bro, your English is better than mine and I was born in America and have been speaking English for all my life
@ivythealiencat
@ivythealiencat 2 жыл бұрын
@@darthrevan431 same lmao 💀
@tentative_flora2690
@tentative_flora2690 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid I remember having reoccurring dreams about someone who had black hair and bright blue eyes. Calling out as if she needed help. That was before I realized I was transfeminine and despite having been raised in a cult and never told about transgender people, or even gay people existing, I knew they did on some primal level. As soon as I read about it online I immediately connected spiritually with something like I hadn't before. Its weird but it's like millions of transgender people around the world were there when I had nobody. I was in my early 20s before I went to my first pride event. It was very jarring, finally I was in a space where everyone was assumed LGBT until proven otherwise. No more gaslighting that these people, thousands of them, didn't exist. Reminds me back when I was a child and asked what being gay meant and my parents lied. Just saying that a gay guy didn't like girls and a gay girl didn't like guys. They never gave me space to know that love were possible outside of their idea of a family. And in those same developmental years they fought each-other like horrendously bad. I asked them about divorce and they promised that they never would. They did break up and I lived with a heavily abusive mother and my 3 brothers for most of my life. Love wasn't possible in my family either and I can definitely echo the sentiment of cutting them off was the best thing I ever did.
@kmatford
@kmatford 2 жыл бұрын
Man I feel bad for them being sexually assaulted and nothing was being done about it and their parents are horrible too for not supporting them.
@geodim3904
@geodim3904 2 жыл бұрын
Byzantium profile pic is always a plus. Are you Greek perhaps?
@kmatford
@kmatford 2 жыл бұрын
@@geodim3904 no I just love history and rome
@geodim3904
@geodim3904 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmatford fellow history lover I see.
@kmatford
@kmatford 2 жыл бұрын
@@geodim3904 haza a man of culture
@kmatford
@kmatford 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1 and what's the problem with that no one else would help them and would you like to be harassed every day at school because people don't like or know what gender you are. Knowing that your parents refuse to acknowledge who you are and even force you to be someone your not would you want that.
@diabeticjesus87
@diabeticjesus87 2 жыл бұрын
Turns out I was very wrong about what intersex was and I'm glad to hear somebody who actually dealt with it explain the troubles it causes.
@spritepepsiplushes8353
@spritepepsiplushes8353 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I remember when I thought bi and trans were the same thing
@grimxprothereaper8949
@grimxprothereaper8949 2 жыл бұрын
Still no one should go through this and you should be who you want to be and no one can tell you who you want to be. If you want to be transgender just go for it. You will be supported no matter what you do and will be with you all the way. Just don't let other people get you down and continued to be positive.
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, how does "wanting to be transgender" work? The "trans" part describes how the identity relates to the body, it's not part of the identity in itself, is it? In fact, I guess Evie would have a super rare achievement, managing to be non-binary and cis at the same time.
@Champion_Vapor
@Champion_Vapor Ай бұрын
i don't mean this lightly, but this video changed my life. around when this video came out, i was in a very terrible home situation. while my current situation isn't ideal, its significantly better. im a trans woman who was (and still is to a lesser extent) extremely repressed. this video helped to give me the vision of leaving that house, about a month after this video i left. in febuary of this year, my father told me i am intersex. Immediately after that conversation i was reminded of this video, and everything started to make sense. thank you Azeal for platforming Evie, I genuinely don't know where i would be without this interview.
@Azeal
@Azeal Ай бұрын
This. This is why I make these videos. You are the prime example of this all being worth it. Thank you for sharing your story here 🧡
@Champion_Vapor
@Champion_Vapor Ай бұрын
@Azeal you're so welcome!!! please keep doing what you're doing, it has more of an impact than you could probably imagine
@Finstrax
@Finstrax 2 жыл бұрын
i personally love everyone that deserves it so do they, people like them are unique and i like them because they just seem different then others. accepting everyone how they are, that's how people should do it i personally think.
@kannonsircy7748
@kannonsircy7748 2 жыл бұрын
It astounds me people say that no one is born LGBTQ+ when Intersex people are proof that they are. And that some religious people say it's a sin to be LGBTQ+ when they're basically saying it's a sin to be born. I hope more people learn about what Evie and people like her are going through so they can better understand them and learn to keep an open mind when it comes to LGBTQ+ topics. Thanks for sharing this video with us.
@pewpewcricketsalt5574
@pewpewcricketsalt5574 2 жыл бұрын
I'm religious and I support your comment
@clostridiumtetani9947
@clostridiumtetani9947 2 жыл бұрын
like 70% of the religions in human history have had some third gender recognized or gay references in mythology at least. And there's nothing explicitly homophobic about the abrahamic ones either
@kannonsircy7748
@kannonsircy7748 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.mistersquidspongesquare9652 Ok I see what you're saying. I probably shouldn't speak on behalf of Intersex people. Especially if I don't know a lot about them. And I wasn't trying to. This was just a little rant about homo/transphobes and all their nonsense. I will be more mindful of what I say moving forward. And if I offended anyone. I apologize. It was not my attention.
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
Religions come with their own theories of how the universe works. In that sense, they're like physics, but more incorrect. When we encounter a phenomenon that should be impossible under that religion's "physics", trying to apply a logical framework derived from that religion to the situation is bound to result in contradictions.
@brattrox2939
@brattrox2939 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised she was gaslit so much in the medical community considering how heavily intersex conditions are covered in schools for the medical community now. I'm glad she finally found a well educated non judgmental team to help figure all of this out and ensure proper health.
@Azeal
@Azeal 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's really awful to think about everyone in your life going against the reality you know to be true :/
@thereaperreadings7014
@thereaperreadings7014 2 жыл бұрын
Evie, as someone who did know very little about this, I am happy to hear you're in a better place. Personally dealing with identity problems is something I know personally as my mother has D.I.D and it was passed down to me, currently I am being diagnosed by speaking to doctors and somewhat hoping I can understand more.. but so far no one was able to properly diagnose me. Living your life unsure of what you're thinking or understanding, thinking it is in your head or wishing people could understand is terrifying and destructive. But as time goes on you learned to cope and I am so proud that you're more comfortable now. If anyone ever labels you a freak again, just know we can be freaks together, there is nothing wrong with being different and we love you!
@Azeal
@Azeal 2 жыл бұрын
Wholesome comment :)
@thereaperreadings7014
@thereaperreadings7014 2 жыл бұрын
@@Azeal Evie's story is very touching. It helps people like me to understand we aren't alone. Hearing her life and seeing how her family treated her is.. horrible and me living in a family that doesn't support me or understand currently at the age of 21, it is hell sometimes. I wish Evie the best and thank you so much Azeal for posting her story.. maybe there is a positive end to everything after all!
@clampmotosua1789
@clampmotosua1789 2 жыл бұрын
Realize that most identity disorders come with alot of other mental problems. Its your life but that doesn't mean it's going to be easy even afterwards. A disability will always be what it says it is and dis able you. Dont let yourself and others lie and let you live in delusions, own your limitations just like you own your disorder.
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
Your head is real. Stuff that's in your head is in there for real. It has real effects.
@idk-np2zz
@idk-np2zz 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve to get more popularity because these videos inform people what people with disorders feel like irl
@ChristianF15cher
@ChristianF15cher 2 жыл бұрын
It begs the question as to what is considered a “disorder” and what is considered an anomaly or unusual. If a person has genitals or genetics that don’t fit into the clear boy/girl definition of biological sex, that’s not necessarily something that is disordering their lives. This person obviously does have a disorder seeing as how medication is necessary to make order of their health.
@BreachDad
@BreachDad 2 жыл бұрын
This interview really changed my perspective. I am one of those people who think "You do you, as long as you're happy and don't harm anyone else." This made me feel a little more proactive.
@adrienlawrence1024
@adrienlawrence1024 2 жыл бұрын
every intersex persons story I listen to has me so fucking mad at doctors "oh you can't have this its so rare" EIWURGIWERG RARE! MEANING ITS A POSIBILITY! YOU PEOPLE MIGHT EVEN FIND ITS NOT AS RARE AS YOU THINK BECAUSE EVERYONE WITH IT YOU ASSUME IS LYING OR INCORRECT sorry this got me fired up, i don't get to be angry much so I'm doing it here and on your side
@Steph.98114
@Steph.98114 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even that rare, it's about 1-2%
@toby_that_one_random_guy
@toby_that_one_random_guy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steph.98114 considering the human population thats actually alot
@harlgg
@harlgg 2 жыл бұрын
There is about as many intersex people as there are redheads
@Aconspiracyofravens1
@Aconspiracyofravens1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steph.98114 its lower then that wait I just googled it, 0.5%? Thats massive!
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aconspiracyofravens1 Yeah. Those aren't "rare disease" numbers, they're "you probably know someone" numbers. And they're affected by underreporting due to doctors turning people away on the basis of it being rare.
@ShadowmarkReturns
@ShadowmarkReturns 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not intersex, or at least not that I know of, but the doctors just giving that same line of "it's just soooo rare." Made my blood boil. I'm on the ace spectrum so that line reminds me so much of "Maybe you just haven't met the right person yet." Or people telling me it's a libido problem. We really need to push for LGBTQIA+ education is schools.
@ssffe529
@ssffe529 2 жыл бұрын
While it is rare, medical professionals who treat intersex individuals like Evie are simply pure evil.
@kuenka91
@kuenka91 2 жыл бұрын
ok rare is a penicilin allergy, like it happens is not that often this rare its like a person being strucked by a lighting rare and im sure there are far more people that have been strucked by a lighthing than intersex folks
@CherryBotV2
@CherryBotV2 2 жыл бұрын
@@kuenka91 1-2 in 100 people born in the U.S. are intersex. The odds of being struck by lightning in your lifetime is 1 in 3,000.
@Steph.98114
@Steph.98114 2 жыл бұрын
@@CherryBotV2 exactly, it's not even rare at all, it's about as rare as having Asperger's is (yes Ik Asperger's is no longer used a medical description)
@marenjones6665
@marenjones6665 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to go to an elementary school where the male/female divide wasn't an integral part of the curriculum, and I've never been able to understand why dividing 7 yr olds into two halves was so important to some schools.
@ItsPronouncedShawna
@ItsPronouncedShawna 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with a similar DSD, I'm only at the intro and I want to cry. I've never heard another person, another voice, ever, even so much as talk about experiencing what I hide from most of the world. I've only met one other intersex person IRL, that I knew of. And it's almost like I'd been living in a soundproof room my entire life, except emotionally so and on a human level. Thank you both so, so much for sharing this.
@lumon_
@lumon_ 2 жыл бұрын
im not non binary or intersex, but I am gender fluid and have always been more curious about biology especially with gender. this video was really amazing and helpful, thankyou for covering this. :)
@dreamhubproductions753
@dreamhubproductions753 2 жыл бұрын
Gender fluid is part of the non-binary spectrum.
@redbaron2918
@redbaron2918 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that this is the first way to learn about intersex. If I would her in this situation I wouldn’t be able to tell someone about this myself. I’m so glad that this channel exists and people like her are here for me and other people.
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you think it's such a good introduction to intersex conditions! Azeal has been fantastic to me, and he's got so many other fascinating stories to come
@ssffe529
@ssffe529 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very sorry but Evie gave out some misinformation regarding sex development and intersex itself. I am not invalidating Evie's identity or experience however. Just telling you that you have been misinformed. If you really want to know about intersex I have some sources to how sex is binary and DSD's or intersex conditions within males/females.
@serenity5702
@serenity5702 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1 Transphobe, you're been everywhere being Transphobic in the comment section :/
@Damian_1989
@Damian_1989 2 жыл бұрын
Bad faith is very easy to spot.
@space7588
@space7588 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful stuff and I’m only a few minutes in. Thanks for sharing.
@Itsreallywhisky2002
@Itsreallywhisky2002 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@altf4undo01
@altf4undo01 2 жыл бұрын
i love evie's voice, i hope she's doing well. i wish there was more acceptance for people who have this condition.
@starshifter4
@starshifter4 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling your story. I'm a trans guy. And my mom is a single mom. She loves me but has a hard time with understanding and switching to the right pronouns and name. And I have a hard time reminding people of my pronouns. Because growing up I've learned that 'it hurts and makes people uncomfortable if I remind them of my pronouns'. I was just wondering if you had any tips on overcoming this issue. If you don't, it's ok. I loved hearing your story.
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, thank you! I'm glad you liked hearing what I had to say. To answer your question, my solution to that kind of thing is to give people the benefit of the doubt initially, try to be very candid and explain how I feel, why, and what not listening will do. E.g., by not respecting you they may lose you, because it hurts to be misgendered and deadnamed. If that doesn't work, I just do a hard line cut toxic people out of my life, which can be hard to do with family members. I'd approach it as "If a friend treated me this way, would I want to keep being friends with them?". I hope this helps, it's a difficult situation, but just keep your head high and push forward, you've got this
@starshifter4
@starshifter4 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvieWebster Thank you! I think you're right. I'll never get what I want if I don't fight for it. Thank you for your help 😊
@p3anutbutt3rtoast11
@p3anutbutt3rtoast11 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1 getting punched in the face is a male thing?? Sir are you okay?? Violence isn’t a good thing?? Also, it’s a very rude thing to ask for someone’s medical history when you don’t even know them. Do you go around asking everyone about their medical history or illnesses? If not, why is it ok to ask him about his?
@p3anutbutt3rtoast11
@p3anutbutt3rtoast11 2 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1 bruh what time period are you living in?? Girls work as firefighters now too?? Girls get in fights too but also getting in fighting isn’t a good thing?? Do you know how terrible conditions mines were in?? People DIED SO OFTEN! You saying if a man doesn’t die doing work they’re not a man? What about your oh so beloved X Y chromosomes huh? Also you’re contradicting yourself. You said trans men are men but you’re still saying he’s a girl that’s just saying they’re a guy? Make up your mind? Pick a struggle? You’d totally be the type that when your daughter brings home a guy you’d be like “I’m getting my shot gun” But if your son brought home a girl you’d be like “aye right on boy” Bro first world problems, seriously.
@AhamkaraMommy
@AhamkaraMommy 10 ай бұрын
Drawing some crazy similarities from this story, useless father, horrible school life, beyond confusing identity issues, a body that causes nothing but mental anguish etc. I'm glad they found a solution for them though, I've still got my fingers crossed and this story definitely gives a small boost.
@overdramaticpan
@overdramaticpan 2 жыл бұрын
Goodness, that's a long video! I'm glad they managed to make the transition, and sorry for what they went through. Stay strong!
@ycleptprof.5249
@ycleptprof.5249 2 жыл бұрын
To all those who feel ostracized by society or are failed by our suffocating culture, the world will change for the better. Evie is, to me, one of the many signs of that. Still, it hurt to hear how she's suffered just for existing.
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 2 жыл бұрын
The world will not changed for the better
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
@@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 Sure it will. So long as we actually go and do it.
@jademonass2954
@jademonass2954 2 жыл бұрын
oh this is a longer video! love these documentaries videos you do, as always!
@EncephalonBubble
@EncephalonBubble 2 жыл бұрын
As a med student I want to apologize for the behavior of my colleagues. I’m just hoping that with the new generations of young doctors coming by things like this will go better. If you have a doubt about what your practitioner does, don’t hesitate to seek a second or third opinion, it can save lives !
@erake8269
@erake8269 2 жыл бұрын
This actually reminds me of a story of an intersex person that was born (with both a meat and hole) and the parents decided they wanted a girl. The meat was cut off and as the years went on, said person never developed any breast and their whole body clearly sided (and they choose to identify) on male. Now he lives as a dude without balls or sticks. Edit: presents - parents
@Steph.98114
@Steph.98114 2 жыл бұрын
This is why at birth corrective surgery should be banned, my ex had it as a baby and hated their mum for it.
@quillmorningstar8713
@quillmorningstar8713 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steph.98114 I also read somewhere birth corrective surgery is actually worse than just keeping it there as it is because it can majorly impact development of bones and shit. This isn't the same for full grown adults, I'm talking about literal babies.
@LifeAvoiding
@LifeAvoiding 2 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who said “there’s only male and female, the rest are mental disorders” Soon as I brought up intersex he’s a broken record “God made you this way” but as soon as it’s intersex, it’s “not normal” Soon as it’s not heteronormative or genderbinary, it’s a flaw. But ‘God’ made me this way. ‘He’ ‘made me’ trans//nonconformative. What happened to “him who doesn’t make mistakes” or “him who is perfect and all around us in every way”, and “him who made YOU special and knew who YOU were before you were born” ? Right. He doesn’t exist now because of your decree. It’s sickening that there is so many things like this people refuse everyone. And not just LGBTQIA+ people. Cishet people with deformities//physical conditions and or mental conditions too. Anything that isn’t perfect does not exist. Which keeps their ideals of “God is perfect” in play. He can’t have made a mistake, because you don’t exist. I hate it
@Cortalpsychmajor
@Cortalpsychmajor 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I'm intersex, and it is flaw. If it wasn't we wouldn't need HRT to remain healthy. But we do. Most of us are also infertile, that is a flaw.
@LifeAvoiding
@LifeAvoiding 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cortalpsychmajor It is a flaw//mutation, yes, but they always say that you were made ‘specially that way’, and that you ‘shouldn’t change it’ and never want to talk about the people who face stuff like this. They never want to talk about the people who come out ‘flawed’ (even though I think you’re all very nice people), because then they would have to admit either they’re wrong or their god is wrong. I’m very sorry you’re going through this, and that it’s hard for you. I’m just so very angry that anything that doesn’t fit the narrative they enjoy is cast aside. I hope you have good help for yourself , Wishing you good health and happy travels!! !
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cortalpsychmajor Thing with nature is that nothing's intended. Shit just kinda happens. There's no morality or inherent value to the way reality expresses itself. So what's a flaw?
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
I guess religion is kind of a core belief to people. Like, imagine you're living your life, quietly secure in the knowledge that God's got your back, everything will work out, and then you'll get to go to heaven. And then you encounter something that by all logic shouldn't happen under what you thought were God's rules. And it sets you thinking about how you never heard back from anyone in heaven. And the people who told you about this God thing were human too, anyway. They wouldn't have heard back either. And maybe that one bit with the wine seemed kinda weird. You know about fermentation, that's not how wine works. Oh shit, is there no safety net? Will you just get what you get and then it's over? It can't be over, right? There has to be something after. Does there? Yeah, I can see how someone whose stability hinged on faith might spiral into existential horror if that faith is shaken. And so their mind goes on the defensive, because the full scale of true oblivion is too scary to confront straight from the comfort of a human-centric fairytale.
@LifeAvoiding
@LifeAvoiding 2 жыл бұрын
@@Poldovico mhmmh, that makes sense
@queen_scylla4516
@queen_scylla4516 2 жыл бұрын
I think this topic should be addressed more, I'm really glad I saw this video
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really think it should be a mandatory school topic, but I hope this interview can at least help inform people a bit, and give them a jumping off point for further research
@LoveBoyflux
@LoveBoyflux 16 күн бұрын
Im intersex, and was raised female, but i consider myself to be a genderless boy and/or a pangender boy of sorts. I had surgery when i was just a baby, but mom didn't know about it. And i am always so happy to hear about other peoples stories. Thank you for sharing all of this. I hope you are having a good life right now.
@Fizzilie
@Fizzilie 16 күн бұрын
💖💖💖💖💖
@MowenXyZ
@MowenXyZ 2 жыл бұрын
literally built different
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
I love this, this broke me
@sayi50ch
@sayi50ch 2 жыл бұрын
You can say "I'm just built different" and mean it. Love you. Keep on keeping on.
@sleepyloaf1148
@sleepyloaf1148 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know this was a thing but now I do, thanks to you! We may not be part of your personal life but most of us are here to support you Evie, I’m so glad that your still here despite everything you’ve been through, that really shows that you’re strong!
@LyddPlant
@LyddPlant Жыл бұрын
I'm transmasc but my issues with the medical system have been horrendous even whilst not out to any medical professionals other than just my GP. I recently finally got an MRI on my spine privately after having complained about my neck since I was a child and having had a traumatic birth. My neck curve is inverted. The orthopaedic surgeon who had the MRI done said my deformity is 'not pathologically significant' as it doesn't press on my spinal cord. I have seizures when I twist my neck wrong, and have had chronic migraines since I was 11. I've also nearly drowned whilst swimming due to changing my neck posture. I now use a wheelchair. The other week, a flare up of my neck meant I went unresponsive and had to be woken up forcefully twice by paramedics. My private osteopath has since seen the MRI, and is not happy lmao
@Azeal
@Azeal Жыл бұрын
oof ;-;
@vulkan4108
@vulkan4108 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I didn't know that intersex condition existed until now, It's very fascinating to find out about it from essentially the source
@wingsofzero5732
@wingsofzero5732 Жыл бұрын
Evie is such an intelligent and well spoken person - listening to her is fascinating. Intersex people need to be listened to and the condition as a whole needs to be more commonly known - not only to help and support intersex people who are struggling with identity and other things, but to also (as Evie puts it) to put a spanner in the narrative that 'biological sex is binary' & 'sex = gender'. The mere existence of intersex people shows that sex has never been as binary as it's thought to be. Of course, I hate sounding like I'm weaponising intersex people to be a 'gotcha' at bigots. I hope Evie, and all intersex people who are struggling, go on to live happy and fulfilling lives.
@theemperoroverlord6226
@theemperoroverlord6226 2 жыл бұрын
This had me crying, I recovered, only to have it get me actually sobbing again by the end. Thank you so much for sharing this!
@SuperHexer123
@SuperHexer123 2 жыл бұрын
This was a phenomenal video, with a lot of good world views. I fully agree with the statements "It's about what makes me feel comfortable" and "the world is still not fully understood". People are weird whether its physical or mental and it may not always have a set explanation, and we really need to account for that as a society. People should be allowed to live thier life in thier skin comfortably as long as it doesn't bring legitimate harm to others even if its perceived as "weird". Even myself can relate to this video as I also have a "rare" (at least according to the nurse who finally diagnosed it) condition, and while I wasn't turned away, it took YEARS of pestering doctors and many ER visits to pin down the right person to see. The relief of finally finding that right professional is so good, and really lifts the weight off of your shoulders. On an off topic note, I really like the avatar, its a neat design.
@Azeal
@Azeal 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed :)
@DonnaPinciot
@DonnaPinciot 2 жыл бұрын
From the thumbnail, I thought this would have been a fun, heartwarming story about a robot, somehow born to human parents or otherwise constructed, who was never told about the differences in their existence until much later. This was a much more serious topic than I expecting going in, but it's an important thing to talk about and I'm glad you were able to share this with us.
@WereAllHuman
@WereAllHuman 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story and raising awareness, I'm honestly shocked how you still pushed forwards despite every setback you had and every person who pushed you down. You're a beautiful human being and I'm glad you didn't change for anybody. You're amazing, thank you for everything thank you.
@mxwes1549
@mxwes1549 2 жыл бұрын
If I had an intersex kid, I would definitely want them to know. A) your medical history is useful to know, but B) none of us have an instruction manual for their meatsuit, and not knowing enough about the human body - YOUR OWN BODY - can be extremely overwhelming and alienating when you feel something's not quite right. There is no harm in educating each other about the human body and its many variations observed throughout nature. It angers me so much that so many people (doctors, even!) are so fearful about learning newly discovered facts about biology that could shatter their binary world view. And boi, don't get me started on sex ed...
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, how is someone supposed to make sense of their identity when they weren't even given enough information to make sense of their pants.
@TheFoxfiend
@TheFoxfiend 2 жыл бұрын
I've met people who were trans, bi, non-bi, or whatever else on the spectrum that is gender, and as someone who is a straight guy it was so weird and confusing at first because it didn't fit with my world view at first. That being said, I was raised to observe and question everything that was different, and finding it to be the truth update my world view. So when I was confronted with this new world of what gender means it was a real eye opener. I had times where I was asking myself "what does this mean to me?", "what if I am not just a straight guy, what would that mean?", "if I realized I wasn't a straight guy how would that affect my social life and my home life?", and also "what are my friends who have gone through this experiencing?". Suffice to say, this led to a confusing time in my life where I played with a whole bunch of concepts in my head of what else I could be and asked myself if it felt any more right. I also went to my mother, who is the more supportive of my pair of parents, though both are really supportive and loving of me, and asked her straight up "what would happen if one day I came out as trans?" and I think I caught her off guard with it cause I tend to internalize things long before I externally express things. She thought about it for a moment before telling me that she would continue to love me as her daughter, it would probably be weird for a bit, but she would get over it and she would help my father get over it too. The funny thing is, that knowledge that I would be supported helped me definitively come to the decision that I am a straight guy while having the freedom to explore what it means for others who are different, helped me to ask my friends who are their various flavors of queer what that is like and be open minded about it so I can learn so much more. I have had friends who have told me that I don't feel 100% straight to them, and maybe they are right and if so I'll figure that out as it becomes more apparent and relevant. I realize I don't remember where I was going with that. I guess I just want to say that I support all those who are going through those confusing times figuring yourselves out, I know it is difficult and confusing and I've experienced and internalized a piece of that so I can understand you people more.
@Yourlocaltrashgoblin
@Yourlocaltrashgoblin 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not intersex, but I’m trans and I understand certain aspects of this, I’m glad they have been telling their story, Edit: good exists a-holes, also they identify as trans (non-binary they state it)
@mostly6760
@mostly6760 2 жыл бұрын
the difference is you had a choice and she didn't, not saying theres anything wrong but i feel like after the abuse she went through she'd prolly rather not go through it lol
@Yourlocaltrashgoblin
@Yourlocaltrashgoblin 2 жыл бұрын
@@mostly6760 that not how trans works-
@mostly6760
@mostly6760 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yourlocaltrashgoblin so you dont have the choice to indentify as male or female??
@Yourlocaltrashgoblin
@Yourlocaltrashgoblin 2 жыл бұрын
@@mostly6760 no :/ one doesn’t choose it, I also went through a shot ton cause of being queer so if I could just be cishet then u would
@mostly6760
@mostly6760 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yourlocaltrashgoblin that's sad... knowing you guys can't even control something as simple as an identification. It's not even hard to choose a gender lmaoo
@raicantgame6634
@raicantgame6634 2 жыл бұрын
It's so wild to me that someone could have a child with obviously non-traditional genitals, who goes through essentially female puberty, and rather than thinking "You know, maybe there's something to this" they just double down on "You're a boy you're a boy you're a boy!" Like??? I know people tend to not be logical about things that make them uncomfortable and that they don't understand, but it just seems... wild.
@LouKaioken
@LouKaioken 2 жыл бұрын
You give so many people the opportunity to share their stories and make us learn really important things about our world along the way and while it might not be always pleasant it is a joy knowing that despite everything we can all aspire to a better and happy life. Thank you for being one of the best channel on KZbin, I will aspire to be happy too.
@SCtopogigio
@SCtopogigio 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experiences. It is eye opening showing us how hateful people can be. It is a tragedy that rather than seeking to understand, people fall into the trap of the familiar and attack anything that challenges the norm. I hope that you only grow happier in this increasingly accepting world we are trying to make for everyone, because we all deserve it!
@DesTheMagicDog
@DesTheMagicDog 2 жыл бұрын
While I'm not intersex myself (I'm an amab Nonbinary person) , but I do know the feeling of being left out or ignored. Evie definitely went through way more fucked up situations than I ever have been through in my whole life. I'd like to meet Evie someday and just talk about stuff, she's a very cool person.
@JustValiant-
@JustValiant- Жыл бұрын
I am amazed at how strong of an individual you are to have so many people you encounter turn their back on you, or refuse to listen and understand you, and still manage to keep pushing forward and not giving up. Truly inspiring story.
@Chxy
@Chxy 2 жыл бұрын
This has helped me so much more on understanding intersex! I'm so glad that Evie has gotten past her troubles and shes done an amazing job aswell!!
@Lego-ik7eo
@Lego-ik7eo 2 жыл бұрын
Goodness, what a calming voice. It's sad how people discriminate against their same gender or race or whatever because they are different. WE ARE THE SAME. That does NOT mean everyone has to have the same interests and/or sexualities, we actually all SHOULD be different because no one could discriminate. Everyone should have a choice to be whatever they want to be, not be controlled by society to do this or do that.
@krobinhood4505
@krobinhood4505 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I weirdly needed to listen to her story, so thank you.
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was able to help ~
@ThatOneGuySometime
@ThatOneGuySometime Жыл бұрын
I just want to give this person a big cozy hug. Just to let them feel safe. Biggest hugs.
@tadesubaru1383
@tadesubaru1383 2 жыл бұрын
My best friend is intersex as well, glad intersex people are getting the spotlight, we need to hear their stories!!
@digitalwarrior5862
@digitalwarrior5862 2 жыл бұрын
my friend, you are perfectly in the right to identify yourself in the gender you feel most comfortable in. don't let people tell you otherwise cause they are either unaware of what it's like, just being perverted or being racist. as long as you don't give up and you are happy with the gender you want to be, then all is good
@TylireousGaming
@TylireousGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Perverted yes. Racist how? It's discrimination based on gender orientation, not race my dude. Please enlighten me how it's racist, I'd love to expand my knowledge on the subject.
@digitalwarrior5862
@digitalwarrior5862 2 жыл бұрын
@@TylireousGaming it's racist because they aren't just one people, but also multiple people at the same time who are having gender issue's and they judge them for what it makes there race looks like for having this issue
@TylireousGaming
@TylireousGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@digitalwarrior5862 who's "they" you're referring to? The intersex person or someone else? Also, you bring up discrimination but label it as racism. Not everything is racist my guy. Gender issues =/= race issues. Good day.
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 жыл бұрын
@@digitalwarrior5862 Please don't mix everything together. It makes it really hard to address the fucked up stuff out there when you get people calling any bad thing by the name of any other bad thing interchangeably.
@Nalisification
@Nalisification 2 жыл бұрын
Intersex variations are fascinating. And significantly more common than many realize. That you for taking the time to talk about your story.
@iseetheendisnear2416
@iseetheendisnear2416 2 жыл бұрын
From a scientific perspective, the differences between male and female are FAR outweighed by the similarities. We’re biased towards looking for differences to affirm ourselves. The evidence for psychological differences is so minor, it’s foolish to conclude anything by it. And anyway, neither nature nor nurture should define us as autonomous human beings
@TheNoobRapter
@TheNoobRapter 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has a family history of people working in the medical field I can tell you doctors are some of the most stubborn people out their. I understand why they have to be stubborn (a guy doing 15 minuets of research on the internet vs a guy who spent 5-10 years in medical school) but that is why you always get a second opinion. Plus medical information changes fairly regularly, just look at medical reports about covid, a good variety of new and old medical knowledge makes things a lot easier.
@EvieWebster
@EvieWebster 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, doctors can be overly set in their ways. It's important to remember that the patient is the key part of care, you have to listen to their symptoms. If someone does come to you with their own research, the best thing to do is verify it yourself in as objective a way as possible. It takes time sure, but it helps so so much
@Maplenr
@Maplenr 2 жыл бұрын
She did a better job of explaining gender than anything else ever has. What an eye opener. Incredible interview
@natanyacline7720
@natanyacline7720 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of intersex before and honestly found it fascinating on a scientific standpoint on how people can have male and female body parts but I never realized the struggles they go through when it comes to figuring out what gender they are. I’m glad the person spoke out because it really opened my eyes.
@lolicantthinkofabettername3437
@lolicantthinkofabettername3437 2 жыл бұрын
Why do I still watch these types of stories? I feel so bad for them every time. My childhood wasn't the best either, but I feel bad for others who had an even worse childhood.
@korbin0717
@korbin0717 2 жыл бұрын
This was very educational and I know that the earlier you realize you are LGBTQ the better. I have a friend who is 12 who is gay and is very happy with his new boyfriend. Also, people coming out now as LGBTQ are much better treated than 20-30 years ago and aren't treated like outcasts. I know we live in different time zones but I kinda want to be friends.
@Azeal
@Azeal 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, society has made so much progress. I feel like ending discrimination may be a never ending battle, but it's certainly being won right now :)
@korbin0717
@korbin0717 2 жыл бұрын
@@Azeal I feel like earlier stereotypes of LGBTQ is where most of the current discrimination is.
@Dan280974
@Dan280974 2 жыл бұрын
@@korbin0717 yeah pretty much
@cormoranoimperatore8413
@cormoranoimperatore8413 2 жыл бұрын
Dear God why can people be so bad?! I’m so sorry you had to go through all these things, you are incredibly strong, I hope everything is or will be ok for you, much love ❤️
@Dr_Teath-aka-Faolan
@Dr_Teath-aka-Faolan 2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing and eye opening. I just want to give her a big hug and apologize for how shitty the world as been to her. You are an incredibly brave person Evie and I hope that the world treats you with all of the dignity and respect that you deserve.
@ShinyHunterMuck
@ShinyHunterMuck 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just say I love their voice so so much?!?! It is so soothing and so beautiful, I can tell that Evie is so kind!! One of the huge reasons i enjoyed this video :)
@Damian_1989
@Damian_1989 3 ай бұрын
I like to revisit this video sometimes. It was the first vid that made me open my mind a bit more and try to better understand queer folk. Helped me "unlearn" some awful stuff i associated with LGBT+ people, so in a way this video made me a better person, and i'm thankful for it.
@ohheylads
@ohheylads 2 жыл бұрын
Her voice and her tone is really comforting, hope she'd have a amazing life from now on
@The_Horizon
@The_Horizon 2 жыл бұрын
holy hell I did not realize this was 50 minutes
@Azeal
@Azeal 2 жыл бұрын
I sent this to you early doofus
@The_Horizon
@The_Horizon 2 жыл бұрын
oopsy
@thatdudeinasuit5422
@thatdudeinasuit5422 2 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely say your life is book worthy. With experiences like that going through those sort of changes while dealing with the concept this constant confusion, because you've been lied to by not only your family but medical professionals for so long is truly a journey to behold.
@gdfish3532
@gdfish3532 2 жыл бұрын
the most crazy thing to me is the idea of PE being segregated by gender. I didn't know that was a thing anywhere.
@DanielSanchez-wv2lg
@DanielSanchez-wv2lg 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this , is educational in many ways, and just wanted to say as someone raised christian, im sorry for all of all the people that have to go thru such experiences
@raisamike3
@raisamike3 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing about Evie's mother's wedding was heartbreaking. God why are families the worst.
@LPaudaxviator
@LPaudaxviator 22 күн бұрын
This was really touching to listen to, I'm glad you kept pushing and got to where you are now. When I was younger I used to babysit for a family that had adopted an intersex kid, they were the coolest baby I ever sat for and I'm thankful for having had my worldview on what gender and sex means get corrected so early in my life. =/ I wish your parents were more like theirs, in their case the parents plan was to just let the kid lean towards whatever they wanted and explain the complexity of it once they were 5 or so and have a fund set aside for when they got closer to puberty to aid in whatever the kid needed when that time came. It's cruel you went through so much hardship, but inspiring that you are the you that you are today. I hope you continue to help spread the word and make the world a better place, more doctors need to be knowledgeable and accepting.
@SuussyBakka
@SuussyBakka 2 жыл бұрын
I’m ‪absolutely pissed at the older gen healthcare professionals for being dismissive! That is way past not cool and unprofessional as all hell. They are supposed to help people, not dictate what they think they need help with. Seriously, they are stubborn af! Anyways, I hope Evie gets the treatment she deserves on both a healthcare sense & a social sense~
@LTMaverick27894
@LTMaverick27894 2 жыл бұрын
I 1000% agree with you in that people have the right to be who they want, and that others shouldn't tell you how to be in order to fit into boxes. It's okay to be be seen as outside of the box, it makes us special and who we are. We should be accepted, not shunned. Understood, not ignored.
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