She Was Demoted & Threatened with Deportation. Then She Won the Nobel Prize | Amanpour and Company

Katalin Karikó is making an extraordinary impact in the medical field. With her research partner she was awarded the Nobel Prize in medicine last month for groundbreaking work on Messenger RNA technology, a vital ingredient in COVID-19 vaccines. Karikó joins the show to discuss this milestone and her new memoir "Breaking Through: My Life in Science."
Originally aired on November 10, 2023
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[@trex3003]

Which is why the prevalent European mindset about childcare is so necessary here. This woman's dedication and talent protected my life and the lives of millions. Amazing.

[@Denise-ux4xd]

mRNA vaccines are US Military BI0WEAP0NS.

[@HL-gs8fi]

But don’t forget that this system was part of a socialist country. Other European countries didn’t have this kind of childcare available.

[@ernarc23]

I loved this. Thank you so much for sharing this interview with Katalin. I'm sure a lot of women scientists have lost careers and possible contributions to science and civilization, while having to choose between affordable child care and their research. We need to provide them with sufficient funding.

[@corujariousa]

Great interview and personal history shared. The point she raised about Child Care is so obvious that it is mindboggling that in the US any such program is sold, by Republicans, as Communism. Social safety net and assistance programs are an investment in society and great for the economy, now and into the future. Imagine if Mrs. Kariko had to leave her job because she didn't have anyone to help with her daughter... Congratulations Katalin Kariko!

[@ytcomms3945]

Her husband is five years younger than her ... And often she was the main bread winner ... That helped too in rasing her daughter well. The daughter was not yet three years old when they left her homeland.

[@eliseleonard3477]

What a delightful woman! She still has that sparkle in her eye when she talks about nature and scientific problem solving. She just didn’t give up ❤️

[@cmcdaniel171]

We need all people with all talents and backgrounds to solve the big worldwide problems like poverty and climate and health!!!! Weighing answers is important!!!!

[@alphaomega8373]

Or people can take responsibility for their lives, something people haven't needed to do for the pass 80 years or more.

[@Kalfie-yv2ni]

Delightful,uncorrupted,intelligent,down to earth woman!

[@ceciliahuang3984]

Way overdue, but finally! Congratulations to Dr. Karikó!

[@The6thelement9413]

Bless this doctor. She deserves the Nobel peace prize. Thank you, Hari

[@andydrewlinger9301]

Friendly correction: Nobel Prize in Medicine not the Peace Prize.

[@keep-ukraine-free]

Hari, wonderful job with interviewing an illustrious scientist whose work most people have some recognition of. You both managed the interview superbly! We got to see her immense caring for all peoples, people with genetics-related illnesses, women working in science, society's benefiting with basic scientific education, and then her loving childhood that encouraged her. Fantastic to see she's been recognized by the world. mRNA therapeutics have immense potential.

[@ewlchen]

Thank you Dr Katalin K, you are a truly humble and wonderful human being, brilliant, yet down to earth. You deserve all the honours in the world that come your way

[@elenaivanovski123]

Thank you for sharing this news story. What a remarkable woman. What great attitude.

[@alanmcrae8594]

A ton of lessons here that suggest ways to improve everything from education to childcare to pure research. Congratulations to this amazing woman who has applied her highest abilities in service to the health of humanity. My wife & I are in our 70's and we are very grateful for our Moderna mRNA vaccinations during the worst of the Covid epidemic. When the next epidemic comes along, as surely as the next sunrise, I will do my online research on the available vaccines and pick what will seem like the best one for us according to the best available science. Others are free to choose whatever. It is their Life that is at risk.

[@ceva7727]

Wonderful interview. Love to see women role models. She is right. It is necessary to find your right partner.

[@ytcomms3945]

Not all women can find a persistent young man five years younger who stays at home most of the time to raise their only child.

[@littlebirdie2]

She is SO right about her statements of childcare importance!

[@avocadomonkey4892]

Amazing and warm woman of science and humanity! So glad she was awarded the Nobel Prize -- her perseverance and dedication are inspirational.

[@sabine8419]

She is so right.

[@kathleenconway5774]

Excellent and inspirational interview.

[@tothelighthouse9843]

Just a little thing, but I love that the longer she talks about science, her particular Messenger RNA technology, & the ways both can help society...the closer she leans into her camera & the conversation. Katalin Kariko is passionate about & dedicated to her chosen path & the wellbeing of the world & people around her. Wonderful interview with a brilliant, humble, enthusiastic, inspired & inspiring woman.

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Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you!

[@tothelighthouse9843]

@@AmanpourandCompany Backatcha!!! This was a fantastic interview.

[@JonStocking-tk9id]

She was the real hero and main researcher with years put into the work before even meeting the male US counter part, who realised what she was trying to do and joined her, which gave her work more credence. The misogynistic attitudes in science research would not allow her to claim the Nobel on her own. She is a very humble and brilliant person who only cared about helping do good in the world, so much so that she even signed away the patents to the university who had demoted her for dumb reasons. But they called her back so they can back in the glory of having a nobel prize winner on their staff. She barely made any money from all her work until she was called back. If she had been a man, I doubt most of this would have happened,

[@retsub3]

Oh my god I love her. And Christine for this class-A channel, its carefully curated content, and the understated brilliance of her journalists 🙏

[@Joyous765]

Lovely interview. I would add that we need to factor in the fear and ignorance in these very stressful times of change. So, the fear factor coupled with fake news and the social internet seem to overload and manipulate people. I’m glad the profit motive was courageously raised in the very end. We need to hear more about that angle and the predator capitalism in this country.

[@lindacoffin5110]

Love it! What she helped to achieve is immeasurable!

[@Schildkrote21]

No doubt the University of Pennsylvania’s apology for its mistreatment of this woman will arrive any minute now…

[@pennycaldwell8141]

😂😮😅

[@gemmalee3032]

It's known her status at UPenn now is part-time as she went back to her home country. Best revenge is enjoying personal success without turning back at heartaches and failures permanently. If she was ignored and sidelined, maybe it was a blessing in disguise as her true courage, intelligence, and maturity prevailed.

[@JonStocking-tk9id]

She was treated abominably. UPenn practical stole her research and patents; most of the work she had done was prior to joing UPenn. She made no money off that. She was the real brains behind the whole research but she ended up having to share the prize with a made to get her dues. @@gemmalee3032

[@ytcomms3945]

@@gemmalee3032 she did not move back to her home country but she keeps traveling there quite often as she gets many prizes and honorary appointments from there too. She often visits Drew Weissman's laboratory at the University of Pennsylvania. He was Fauci's postdoctoral student. They lucked out nicely with the scary global covid pandemic and profited handsomely.

[@ytcomms3945]

@@gemmalee3032 then again perhaps we will find out some day how exactly the global covid pandemic got started. They had the synthetic mRNA vaccine for the flu virus. Listen to Fauci lamenting in 2019 at the Universal Flu Conference of the Milken Institute that people would not accept it universally because they are not afraid enough of the flu. She went to Biontech in 2013. Her colleague, Drew Weissman remained at University of Pennsylvania and received Biontech grants for his research. Bill Gates purchased Biontech shares in the summer of 2019 and sold in 2022 Spring with handsome profit.

[@vbowling593]

What an inspiration!

[@ytcomms3945]

For what? For your daughter to marry a good man five years younger? To have only one child? To leave your homeland and to set up house with your entire family in a different country at age 30? To find a Drew Weissman like colleague, Fauci'a former postdoctoral student and to luck out with the pandemic?

[@maddie9185]

Congratulations she earned this recognition. Her hard work is going to open the door for other uses of this great discovery. I totally agree that affordable childcare is something that needs to be funded. Humble woman

[@sarahcarder7076]

This is refreshing; wish the world had more of this type of energy and intellect. It is wonderful that she is bringing up these mundane points that effect the quality of everything in our lives.

[@garyleiser753]

Bravo!

[@sarahogawa5408]

Her point about childcare is crucial.

[@littlebirdie2]

Engaging informative interview with a wonderful person of science with great insight and ideas.

[@jessicacox1514]

Thank you Jesus for Katalin Kariko.

[@ytcomms3945]

Yes. Jesus helped Fauci out and brought the global covid pandemic fear to the world so his former postdoctoral student Drew Weissman and his research partner benefited mightily.

[@alexanderfriedman7027]

Moral value of Nobel Prize was demoted long time ago.Jaser Arafar, Baral Obama...

[@danielrawlings8355]

Ferrets have the closest immune type to humans. UK has roughly 500000 (half million) Ferrets. Ferrets spread influenza to humans. Not a single case of 1 Ferret contracting, spreading or dying of Sars Cov2. Which animal has been chosen to test model CV19 vaccines on? The Ferret.

[@LG-dj9qr]

Interestingly enough in the early stage of COVID scientist lost about a month of lab work because they realized ferrets heal quicker than humans and had to ditch that part of the study.

[@danielrawlings8355]

@@LG-dj9qr Curious.😎

[@caesmonde]

Dr. Karikó, thank you for your work. Thank you for this interview. Great work, Hari!

[@beerman204]

Wanted more info on the science.....

[@sabine8419]

There are documentaries on the web about that, and also books.

[@hanaluong2672]

The title might not be accurate. "Threatened to be deported" had happened at Templeton years before "demoted several times" (4?) at U-Penn. I think the Head of her Cardiology Department and the Dean of the Medical School (not sure about their correct titles) of U-Penn made it their life mission to belittle this lady and kicked her out of U-Penn. Gosh, you are professionally doomed if the two most important bosses do everything to make you fail. Katalin Kariko is someone so special. The irony is now U-Penn might have received up to $2 billion from the Covid vaccine royalty. They will stand to receive more and more from other vaccines like the one to prevent cancer caused by HPV, or HIV vaccines, or treatment of Hep-B. Sigh. 😪

[@avishevin3353]

Arafat got the Nobel for starting an Intifada. The prize means nothing, if it ever did.

[@ytcomms3945]

Moniz accepted the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for LOBOTOMY in 1949 even though he knew by then how many people got maimed with that procedure including Rosemary Kennedy in 1941. He probably blamed others for the problems just like these two researchers. The pandemic worked out for them quite nicely so they do not really care about others..

[@goldmother2238]

Unfortunately covid vaccine is not preventting covid😢

[@ekohfashis2962]

Jesuit Eugenicist.

[@Denise-ux4xd]

From the Nobel prize to the gallows.

[@cfrandre8319]

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