Sheep and Goat Abscess: Treating and Preventing CL and Other Abscess. Caseous Lymphadenitis

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Linessa Farms, LLC

Linessa Farms, LLC

3 жыл бұрын

Sheep and Goat Abscess: Treating and Preventing CL and Other Abscess. Caseous Lymphadenitis. In this video, Tim will give a comprehensive explanation on how to effectively treat and prevent ANY abscess in a sheep or goat to include treatment and prevention of dreaded CL (Caseous Lymphadenitis).
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@clc7800
@clc7800 3 жыл бұрын
I am very fortunate to have found your videos. Many others have helped in raising sheep, but you are the best!!! You may have no idea how helpful you are. A life saver! I am always looking forward to view your latest videos!!! How did you acquire so much knowledge and wisdom? Many thanks.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words and for watching our videos. I grew up working on a sheep farm that raised over 100 head of breeding ewes. I also work in healthcare which helps me to have a strong working knowledge of medications and procedures. Thanks again!
@dragonslayer89641
@dragonslayer89641 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent video. I am a new goat owner trying to make sure I am very informed on what to do if something happens with my goats and I found this video to be informative and very well demonstrated. Thank you 🙏 please keep making more
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jessica. We appreciate you taking the time to leave us a kind message. We appreciate you watching our videos.
@notinterested9097
@notinterested9097 Жыл бұрын
very clear and concise information with excellent footage on how to lance the lump .
@jihanissa4544
@jihanissa4544 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you! One of my sheep had an abscess and I wasn't quite sure what to do. This video really helped with clear steps.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching our channel, Jihan!
@juanmosqueda87
@juanmosqueda87 2 жыл бұрын
Great video my friend you are the man ! Thank you god bless you and your family !
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Juan! Best wishes for you this New Year. 😬
@MommaManda
@MommaManda 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Wish there were mkre videos like these for the small livestock holder. Our farm vet is outrageously priced, and if I just knew what to do/give, I could do it myself. So appreciate your help!
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 5 ай бұрын
You’re very welcome. Thank you for watching!
@JojoJojo-hd3xp
@JojoJojo-hd3xp 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video and info. Thank you so much.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We appreciate you taking the time to leave us a nice message.
@hephzibahbeulah237
@hephzibahbeulah237 Жыл бұрын
We dont have CL vaccines in Kenya, however this video is very very detailed , useful and timely. Thanks a lot . Wished i could press the like button multiple times.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@kimfolmar2021
@kimfolmar2021 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! I have a doe is has it and I need to lance it. Can you please list out each product you used with details as well as where you bought it? I heard you say you can only get lidocaine from the Vet but I am still fairly new to goats. The details would be very helpful. Thanks!
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Kim. You can pick up everything you need from any major farm store. We used a scalpel for the incision and injected the area with a 50/50 mix of hydrogen peroxide and iodine once done. The cup I am holding is just a generic plastic measuring cup. I would advise picking up your needles, syringes, and scalpels at tractor supply or any other large farm store. You can pick up the other supplies more cost effectively at Walmart. Thanks for watching our videos and for the feedback.
@visiononthebat319
@visiononthebat319 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words and for watching our videos!
@mosaicfarm2389
@mosaicfarm2389 3 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining and showing the entire procedure! I have a question about my Sheep that I was wondering if you have any ideas about... Do you know of anything that could cause a ewe to itch off their skin between their horn and their eye? We have one ewe that does not have lice, mites, has been dewormed, is in good body condition and every summer itches under her horns until it is raw. She is the only one in the herd that is affected. She leaves it alone all fall/winter, but come summer she always itches it until it is raw for multiple months. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. There are a few different issues which may be going on. More than likely, it is some time of fungal infection in that area. Try to wash her off well and treat her with an anti fungal spray every day for a week.
@emilyblascoe7146
@emilyblascoe7146 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Helpful as I prepare to do this on one of our goats. You’ve made this feel much less daunting than I was originally feeling about it. Also, what breed is this goat? I have one almost exactly like her, I was told full boer. But just curious!
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
She is a boer crossed with an alpine. Thanks for watching and good luck to you!
@georgetippner7940
@georgetippner7940 2 жыл бұрын
very informative!! Thx this helps out a lot!!
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, George. We appreciate you watching our videos.
@riptaylorswig4653
@riptaylorswig4653 11 ай бұрын
Wow. What a thorough and excellent explanation of this procedure. We have a goat with an abscess on her neck right above her wattle. As a new goat owner, it's like a ticking time bomb. However, your presentation was so calm and matter of fact that I feel a bit less concerned about the situation. Thanks again! Should one expect to be draining abscesses for the rest of the goat's life? Just curious, did the sample come back positive for CL?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 11 ай бұрын
We have seen multiple outcomes. Some animas seem to get recurring abscesses but most will get one or 2 and then you won’t see it again. The sample on this goat came back positive. So far as I know, she has never had another.
@inezvasquez8104
@inezvasquez8104 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Help! Just this evening, our new buck had an abscess rupture. I had supplies, but no iodine or syringe. I used povidone. In the morning I will check and clean him up again and attempt to clean out his abscess. Thank you Tim.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching our videos and for taking the time to leave us a message. Best of luck to you. 👍🏻
@sager3558
@sager3558 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Hoo yah green feet
@richardrodriguez2548
@richardrodriguez2548 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you for your detailed presentation.. where can the kits be purchased at ?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Most of what we used can be purchased right on Amazon. Any numbing medication like lidocaine will have to come from your local farm vet.
@chelseaanderson418
@chelseaanderson418 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! I have a ewe with an access by her mouth (which i assumed was from a thorn or something similar), but then one lymph node at the top of her throat is also slightly swollen (we're talking a very small lump that doesn't stretch the skin). Is that a smoking gun for CL, or a natural sign that her body is fighting infection from the thorn poke? All of the sources but I have read want to cry CL anytime lymph nodes are enlarged, without addressing the fact that these things swell up anytime the body is fighting anything.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 10 ай бұрын
It’s difficult to say for sure. She could be having lymph node swelling on that side due to the abscess in her mouth. Lymph nodes are all throughout the body and will usually swell “downstream” from an active infection. This is true with humans as well. CL abscesses are usually very large once they progress and the hair or wool will fall off the abscess as it gets closer to rupturing. Common size of CL abscesses can get around the size of a golf ball. Contents are generally yellow to white in color and the consistency of tooth paste. The contents usually have no odor. If it is CL, don’t be overly discouraged. This is a wide spread issue that effects many farms and has many methods of transmission. Birds, flies, boots, etc are just a few of the ways this can be transmitted besides the obvious problems involved with bringing in infected animals.
@adrienneweyers2464
@adrienneweyers2464 2 жыл бұрын
We just have a few goats, and I have been looking for the vaccine for CL but have not been able to find any. Texas Vet Labs(now Bimeda Biologicals), no longer makes theirs unless it is herd specific and you must purchase 100 vials. Also tried to find the Colorado Serums to no avail. So is there any other option for vaccinating.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, no. Many people have started using formalin injections into CL abscesses. You need to be very sure you are dealing with CL prior to injecting formalin though.
@wmkess
@wmkess Жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I watched it a while back and am revisiting to ask a question about the vaccine. Can you give the initial two doses to pregnant does? I believe mine are about 6-8 weeks bred. I know you likely give the booster to does 30 days prior to kidding but that’s a single dose and much later in gestation than we are now. I’d like to vax asap so we can let them out on pasture that may be infected by goats we are culling later in the fall who have had abscesses (culls for more reasons than possible CL abscesses).
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
Hello! They have discontinued the goat vaccine and it is no longer available. We have wanted to make a video on this but we don’t have any animals with CL, which makes it difficult. MANY producers are now injecting CL abscesses with 10% buffered formalin. This kills everything in the abscess capsule without harming the animal. I will attach a link to an article on this below. I would not advise the CL vaccine for sheep (still in existence and won’t work for goats) to a pregnant ewe. We’ve heard of too many side effects. www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/caseouslymphadea.html
@d.b.7444
@d.b.7444 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate this video. My sheep has an abscess on the side of her nose, not on it nose itself, but between the cheek and the nose. Can I still do this procedure on her?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for watching our video. Yes, you can still do this. Just be cautious and take your time. Don’t make any larger incision than necessary.
@tnmyruby4736
@tnmyruby4736 2 жыл бұрын
I followed the link for the goat vaccine, is it still available somewhere? The link said not found. Great video BTW!
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they have discontinued the vaccine. We need to make an updated video. We are now injecting 10% formalin into the abscess in order to treat it and prevent it from spreading. The sheep vaccine is still available but it is not the same and supposedly will not work for goats. We will have a new video coming out soon.
@keithmiller6277
@keithmiller6277 3 ай бұрын
I would recommend shaving around where you plan to make the ìncision. It makes it easier to see what you're doing. It helps to keep it from reinfectìng. Cleans the area well with soap and water, the with iodine. As thick as the puss was, I would stick my finger in the hole to break the wall on any hidden pockets of infection. I would then flush it with dilute iodine. Check to see if their is a sack wall and try to remove it. I once treated a colt that had survived a Cougar attack. We removed a broken claw from the wound. I'm not a Vet, just an oĺd Cowboy.
@haliebivins9715
@haliebivins9715 Жыл бұрын
Hey there! Thank you so much for your very informative video and info. I checked jeffers pet supply but it doesn’t appear that they carry the goat cl vaccine anymore. I’ve checked everywhere without success. Would you possibly know where or who may carry one now?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the got CL medication has been discontinued. 🫤 We have not used the sheep medication in it’s place so we can’t give you much insight into how this would help.
@kt3300
@kt3300 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video ! Do you give hands on classes? You should , your a good teacher :)
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 3 жыл бұрын
We offer limited courses at the farm. Our next class will be on shearing and will be held in the spring of 2022. 😬
@kt3300
@kt3300 3 жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms I will be moving to the farm around that time.. if settled I would love to attend :)
@milkywayranchsc
@milkywayranchsc Жыл бұрын
Thank you. That is what I came here to see. Also about the smell. One extension article said cl has a strong smell. Every other article I found said it has no smell. I have not had CL in my herd, knock on wood. I had a scare recently though. It was in an area most likely to be a saliva duct infection or a thorn in his cheek. It ruptured on its own. The contents were liquid, grey and smelled awful even without getting very close to it. I cleaned it the best I could without help, sprayed it with blukote and screw worm spray, and gave him LA 200. Continuing the LA 200. He has been isolated since this happened. No goat vets in my area who actually reply, show up or know goats well. I'll look for the sample swab you showed us just in case and vaccinate the herd if it is CL. I don't think so after seeing what the cheesy goo actually looks like. Thank you.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
Hello. Some will argue with me on this but you can generally have a 90% accuracy with a consistency and smell check. I’ve been dealing with CL on multiple farms for about 10 years and helping people limit and treat it. Historically, I can tell you samples I have sent in that came back positive had zero smell and very thick, off-white to yellow color. The first thing I usually check is the smell. If it smells, it’s almost always NOT CL. Specific bacteria have a certain smell. CL has none. In healthcare (unfortunately) you start to develop a nose for these things. Although, not scientific, I can tell you that I can tell with a certain degree of accuracy if I’m dealing with staph, CL, ecoli, a GI bleed, etc by simply smelling. The only real way to know is through sampling/lab. Unfortunately, the lab that was making the CL vaccine for goats has stopped and at this time there is no acceptable replacement. The sheep vaccine cannot be used for goats effectively. We have been treating abscesses with buffered formalin solution just prior to rupture with good results and antibiotics as you are already doing. In your case, I would assume you have a general abscess. Keep us posted.
@milkywayranchsc
@milkywayranchsc Жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms thank you for the info. I am slightly calmer now and hoping statistics are on my side, and his dirty sock mixed with dirty dishes smelling liquid was a run of the mill infected thorn poke. I have a sample packaged to send off for testing to make sure. I'm disappointed to read that the vaccine is out of production. I'll keep an eye out for it to become available. Hopefully it is not an urgent matter of protecting my herd from an infection that found its way here.
@geralddunn2654
@geralddunn2654 3 жыл бұрын
good one, thank you. on another note what minerals do you give your sheep? I know salt but what do you put in with it? thanks again and keep up the good work
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 3 жыл бұрын
We like to use a free choice mineral specifically made for sheep or goats. We offer the mineral and sodium bicarbonate. We have a video coming out soon. 👍🏻
@geralddunn2654
@geralddunn2654 3 жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms make it soon please, I have my sheep coming soon
@clc7800
@clc7800 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very instructional!!! You mentioned to irrigate the cyst area with hydrogen peroxide, then you actually used Iodine. What type of Iodine solution did you use? Thanks
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! We use a 7.5% iodine solution. The irrigation you saw me use for the procedure is a 50/50 mix of iodine and hydrogen peroxide. Hopefully this helps. If you have any other questions, let us know. Thank you! Tim
@clc7800
@clc7800 3 жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms Thank you very much!
@sprucemoose1133
@sprucemoose1133 Жыл бұрын
Do you ever advise shaving the area before incision and work?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
Yes. If the area is very hairy or wool covered, it would help to shave the area first. Many abscesses will lose hair on the affected area so you will have to see what you’re dealing with. Good question. Thank you!
@taylorpurdy2277
@taylorpurdy2277 2 жыл бұрын
If my dairy goat has CL is it safe to still drink the milk and use in goat soap? I'm unsure if she has it or not she has hard egg shaped bump in between her jaw bones under her chin around her thyroid that I can move around under the skin? Thank you!
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Merck Vet Manual says no. Since there can be CL abscesses internally, there is an assurance you will not put yourself in a dangerous position. Kids should be considered at increased risk as well. The only way to know for sure is to take a sample of the pus from the abscess and get it checked. With all this being said, is there any way this is her thyroid and is a goiter. If this is a goiter due to iodine deficiency, you can simply paint the bottom side of her tail with iodine for about 4 days and it will go away.
@dianacakelic4058
@dianacakelic4058 2 ай бұрын
Što će biti sada sa ovom kozom?moželi se još koristiti za mlijeko ili meso ? Hvala
@tianance6925
@tianance6925 2 жыл бұрын
Since they no longer make the goat specific vaccine what do you use to vaccinate your goat herd? And at what dosage?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
It is the same as the sheep vaccine at 1/2 the dose listed based on what I have been told. This is all second hand information I need to research. I will post something about this soon.
@rodtisdaletisdale8562
@rodtisdaletisdale8562 7 ай бұрын
the link does not work for the goat vaccine. is this something i can buy or do i have to go through a vet?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 7 ай бұрын
There is no longer a goat CL vaccine formulated in the US. Premier1 has been giving advice on how to use the sheep CL vaccine. You can contact their customer service and ask them.
@briankrishna1736
@briankrishna1736 2 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway to wash or disinfect with a certain solution that will kill CL on the ground or around the barn for future infection
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Brian. Any antiseptic solution such as chlorahexadine should help with hard surfaces although it is difficult to eliminate completely.
@aprilblack8916
@aprilblack8916 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Poor goat, I'm sure she feels better now that it's drained. What age can/do you vaccinate sheep and goats for CL?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
All of this has recently changed as the manufacture of the goat vaccination has stopped being produced. At this point, there aren’t any clear answers as to what we should do. We are currently working on this issue and should have some answers soon.
@500spyder
@500spyder 2 жыл бұрын
@Linessa Farms, it seems many people use the Case-bac in goats as well. Have you looked into this?
@KRowe
@KRowe 9 ай бұрын
What is the brand of goat vaccine? I can find the sheep one easy, but the goat one is not coming up for anything. Just had one of my sheep with a positive diagnosis and want to help prevent this in the rest of our animals. Thanks.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 9 ай бұрын
I sent you an email.
@carlos0418961
@carlos0418961 Жыл бұрын
Can we use the sheep vaccine, no more goat vaccine available. And is there a milk withdrawal with CL/vaccine
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
I have heard conflicting information on this. Contact premier1 and ask their vet about proper protocol.
@kylebales5329
@kylebales5329 2 жыл бұрын
Why does the CL vaccine for goats seem to be out of stock everywhere?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Kyle. Thanks for watching our videos and thanks for the question. The vaccine for goats has been discontinued and most producers are now using the sheep vaccine off label. I have not yet done this but I am being told the sheep vaccine is to be given at 1/2 recommended dose to the goat.
@lynnecody8442
@lynnecody8442 2 жыл бұрын
Did you vaccinate the goat after the treatment? If so, how soon? We had a suspected CL on an 8 mo old doeling lanced at the vet clinic on Monday. I have irrigated it twice since then (it isnt draining well) but she is currently the only goat here. Can I spray pens and ground with a bleach solution and bring other does in at some point? She was here with 2 market wethers (who showed no signs--they were all 3 4H projects) which we sold at the county fair end of July. She's been the only one here since then. Daughter loves her and wants to breed her in the future but if she can only be a pet, that's fine too.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Lynne and thanks for the question. This question comes up often and causes a lot of stress around the farm. Not so long ago, there was an often knee-jerk reaction to cull livestock suffering from CL. It was thought (incorrectly) that we could simply eradicate the disease through control and elimination measures. It is known now that CL is much harder to control than previously thought and many studies show it can be transmitted by horse flies, shearing, etc… most of us in the business will tell you, if you haven’t experienced it yet, you will. I don’t get excited about CL like I used to, especially since the vaccine is extremely effective. All of our goats are vaccinated as soon as possible. In the case of the goat from the video, she was vaccinated and all goats on her parent farm will be vaccinated as well. Both infected and non-infected goats should be vaccinated. The infected goats will show less (if any) symptoms again and this will prevent you from infecting other healthy goats as well. In your case, you will just want to vaccinate any new members to your flock. Your goat should have a buddy and I’m sure you will eventually get her one. The “downside” according to some people is, all your goats will test positive for CL antibodies after they have been vaccinated. My response to this is, so what? The alternative is to let them get infected. People are worried people will think they have CL if the blood test comes back positive. Over time, people will get over this. If you sell any goats, just let everyone know your goats are vaccinated. Most major producers are already adding the CL vaccine to their regiment and in short order it will be as common as CDT. So, long answer to your question, buy yourself some vaccine. Vaccinate the doe you have and any new goats you get. You can absolutely keep her and you should. Hope this helps. Thanks! Tim
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
You can vaccinate her as soon as you can get the vaccine. The goat in the video was vaccinated the next day.
@lynnecody8442
@lynnecody8442 2 жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms Can you tell me which vaccine you recommend? It looks quite affordable but I see there are several on the market now.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
There is a link in the video description that will take you to Jeffer’s for the goat vaccine. 👍🏻
@akavery
@akavery 10 ай бұрын
But the goat vaccine has been discontinued. What do we do now?
@bonniebjork-hiland8155
@bonniebjork-hiland8155 9 ай бұрын
My goat has 2 bumps right above his nostrils what could they be?? There soft yet he's not eating
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 8 ай бұрын
Could be damage from stickers or sharp objects while grazing. Depending on your location, it could also be botflies. If you are seeing hair loss around the nose and ears, you may want to consider treatment for mange mites as well. We like to use Dectomax.
@briankrishna1736
@briankrishna1736 2 жыл бұрын
Can you vaccinate a goat that has CL in their system to help them fight infection in the future?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Brian. Yes. If you have infected goats or sheep the vaccine helps to prevent future outbreaks. It is not curative, however it has shown to decrease symptoms significantly.
@tracydr01
@tracydr01 2 жыл бұрын
Can the abscess be between the front legs?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Abscesses are infections and can happen anywhere. CL abscesses are in the lymph nodes and would not present themselves in this location.
@saulpena7499
@saulpena7499 Жыл бұрын
Now that there is no vaccine for CL in goats what is the alternative ?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
Many of the producers have switched to injecting mature abscess with 10% buffered formalin. This kills the bacteria and significantly diminishes risk of contamination.
@OverOnTheWildSide
@OverOnTheWildSide 2 жыл бұрын
Can they be vaccinated after they’re already showing abscesses? Also can it be cured in a human if a human gets it?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great question and thank you for watching our channel. If you have infected animals on your farm, you should vaccinate all (infected and non-infected). There are 2 exceptions and those are pregnant/lactating does and kids under the age of 5 months. The vaccine will help prevent the spread of the disease in your flock and will also help lessen symptoms and abscesses in your already infected animals. People can get CL and there are limited studies to reference. A clinical paper published in 1997 lists approximately 12 individuals and treatment. This appears to be a fairly rare phenomenon. Working in surgery and healthcare for many years, I can tell you I have never seen or heard of a case occurring. However…. Most infections could be expected to occur in the arms or hands and clinical signs would more than likely manifest in the axillary (armpit) lymph nodes. Treatment would be removal of infected nodes and antibiotic treatment. One could expect to be on long term antibiotic treatment and depending on medication regiment, central line/PICC line placement might be warranted (specifically for long term antibiotics such as Vancomycin). You could also expect patients to need CT imaging and ultrasound imaging as well as various bloodwork to confirm diagnosis. More than likely this would all involve your primary care provider, a general surgeon, and more than likely an infectious disease specialist…. So yeah, don’t get CL. On the bright side, if you wear gloves and practice proper hygiene, your risks are more than likely very low. Hope this helps answer your question.
@OverOnTheWildSide
@OverOnTheWildSide 2 жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms yes that helps. One of my goats sneezed in my face. I don’t know if she has it or not I’m just learning about this and a bit nervous of it all.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
You would need to have pus from an active lesion get into your blood more than likely.
@OverOnTheWildSide
@OverOnTheWildSide 2 жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms ok thank you, I appreciate your responding. I hope you’re right :)
@jnunn3762
@jnunn3762 8 ай бұрын
Can you give vaccine to pregnant goats?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 8 ай бұрын
In many cases, yes. When it comes to CDT, you should. What vaccine are you specifically asking about?
@Gods_creation.His_harvest
@Gods_creation.His_harvest 3 ай бұрын
Should you vaccinate if you have never tested? What if you animal already has it then would it be beneficial to vaccinate the animal.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 3 ай бұрын
This is a complex question. Some people will refrain from testing because they don’t want the animals to test positive for CL. I think that’s a little silly but not really my business. Evidence supports vaccination even if they have had it and reportedly helps prevent future abscesses. More recently since this video has been posted, many veterinarians have moved to either injecting the abscess with buffered formalin or even more recently, injecting the abscess with Draxxin and also treating the animal with Draxxin as well. This has shown to prevent contamination and help prevent future outbreaks.
@Gods_creation.His_harvest
@Gods_creation.His_harvest 3 ай бұрын
@@LinessaFarms ok good to know
@andersonhobbyfarm2094
@andersonhobbyfarm2094 2 жыл бұрын
They're both the same vaccine. Corynebacterium Pseudotuberculosis Bacterin-Toxoid just different dosages.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. At the time, one was “labeled” for use for goats. We try (although not always possible) not to advise drugs that are off label but now that they stopped the sale of approved goat drug, we will just be using the sheep one for all of our goats and sheep. As you probably know, many of the drugs are off label for sheep and goats for everything from worming to antibiotics. It’s tough to advise drugs without getting dinged. Thanks for watching our videos and thanks for taking the time to leave a helpful comment. We appreciate it!
@jackle842000
@jackle842000 Жыл бұрын
Since cl is zoonotic then don't you think you shouldn't be telling people to cut the abscesses? Especially since the abscess is an easy way to catch it yourself if you happen to have a small cut or rub your nose or eyes? Why does it seem like you don't worry about any of this? There any additional info you have that's more reassuring? Can it be easily cured if you catch it or only treated? Thanks in advance for any info you can provide
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
As stated in the video, if you are not comfortable with performing the procedure, you should not. There are lots of considerations to make when doing this and there are lots of different methods. I will do my best to answer your questions. 1. It is zoonotic. This is why we mention multiple times to wear gloves, practice good hygiene, be cautious with sharp objects, and make sure to clean the site as well as possible. There are a lot of zoonotic diseases with sheep and goats that can make you very sick. These include but are not limited to ecoli, toxoplasmosis, orf, chlamydia, parasites, and others. The best I can tell you is to be responsible. Don’t rub your face with dirty hands, etc. this is good advice anytime you are handling animals at all. If I don’t seem concerned, it’s because I know what I’m doing and I’m not nervous or afraid. I also work in healthcare and perform surgical procedures on people. This is probably part of what you’re seeing as well. I think if you aren’t comfortable, just don’t do it. It’s not worth hurting yourself or the animal. We are simply showing people how to gather a sample of an abscess so they can get it tested. I have never heard of anyone catching this disease but I can speculate if you were to catch this, it would require diagnosis (more than likely through blood cultures, sampling of a lymph node, and more), and long term antibiotic therapy which may or may not involve long term IV antibiotics. I don’t know what kind of antibiotics this specific strain of bacteria is most susceptible to so it is difficult to say what specific medication administration would take place. I will answer your other questions as well. Check out your other comment to see them.
@jackle842000
@jackle842000 Жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms thanks for the thorough info, it's definitely appreciated
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms Жыл бұрын
@@jackle842000 you’re welcome. Have a great holiday season. Thanks for watching our videos. 👍🏻😬🎅🏻
@jackle842000
@jackle842000 Жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms you too! Thanks again for the info
@jackle842000
@jackle842000 Жыл бұрын
@@LinessaFarms You too! Thanks again for the info! Now, off to see what happens if it's caught. Always worried me tremendously that a drop of saliva, sneeze in the face, or anything like that can transmit many of these diseases.
@tracydr01
@tracydr01 2 жыл бұрын
Can dogs get this?
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 2 жыл бұрын
Dogs can get abscesses but cannot catch CL from a sheep or goat (so far as I am aware).
@asimplelifeinthephilippine1465
@asimplelifeinthephilippine1465 3 ай бұрын
Calfs with infection in navel area, not ruptured but infected, we use iodine tablets, small incision slide tablets into hole turn it sideways so it doesn't fall out. It sets it on fire for a little bit but it cleans all of the infection out, works great for navels. Don't you think it would work for cl after draining it. You know grandma must have been a doctor, damn she put iodine on ever cut and scrape, lord help you if you had a big skinned place.
@LinessaFarms
@LinessaFarms 3 ай бұрын
As you saw in the video, we flush it with an iodine solution. As far as “curing it” no. CL is an infection within the body. It would kill what’s in the specific abscess but would not prevent a future CL access. For the specific abscess being treated, yes, I assume your idea would work.
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