Shein's growth is slowing, according to data

[@thedevilwearsdata]

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[@yawenye2592]

😊😊😊

[@Chicago48]

The fashion consumer is fickle. And I sell a lot to consigners like Buffalo Exchange and a lot of women are doing "exchanges" for clothing. Also some brands are doing buybacks, so women aren't buying like they used to.

[@artimiss1238]

When I first heard about shein a couple years ago, a creator posted a video borderline in tears over her designs being stolen by shein and having to lose her small business because of it. She had compared her design book and pieces compared to the postings on shein and they were identical. Shein was using cheaper materials and cheaper labor for cheaper prices, basically knocking her out of the market. A real scummy business

[@evergreen1326]

The real criminal here is the virused mentality of the customers that prefer a plastic cheap item instead of a well made and sustainable one. If they would have made cheap items but we have valued quality ones it would not have been that hard for her. In turn our mentality was shaped by the society that doesn't educate us towards quality but expendure. Governments work with corporations which is insane. And that's why more and more radicalist parties arise in the world. We sell our well being for a fabricated comfort and we enslave ourselves.

[@AGULL]

They stole blogylates clothes too

[@evergreen1326]

@@AGULL yeah

[@mildlydispleased3221]

The fact that they use what is essentially slave Labour may be a bit more serious than shutting down startups.

[@Mia-pr9cd]

​@@mildlydispleased3221 why? Lifes ruined in both cases

[@susannarobinson399]

If you can’t stop yourself from buying shien you have a consumption problem. You don’t need to get new stuff constantly.

[@CordeliaWagner]

I buy at the Second Hand store around the corner. The prices are so low that it doesn't hurt when I buy new items regularly. Plus I can always bring some back and donate them if I don't like them anymore. Or I bring them to Clothes Swapping parties, where I donate them and therefore can get new stuff for free!

[@sodiumsodiumsodium1109]

​@@CordeliaWagner swapping parties can be such a good concept if everyone cooperates! In my family the older girls and aunts always passed down good quality clothing and it lasted for generations, I've had some items from my aunt for 10 years, and they were already used! Investing in good clothes and moving towards slower consumption is hard but possible ❤

[@minakiel2930]

@@CordeliaWagner i used to do that until they raised the prices a TON in early 2020. i was working in a grocery store and needed plain shirts so i had to buy from shein. spent 25 dollars and used those shirts until they were unwearable. now i use them as makeup rags and coin purses lol

[@mikafizz1022]

​@@sodiumsodiumsodium1109 Do you know of any other concepts, movements, apps or anything around this??????

[@sodiumsodiumsodium1109]

@@mikafizz1022 I don't, but you can ask local thrift shops if they know anything like that. In my country I've never heard of swapping parties but like I said, family and friends passed down clothes to me and I did to them. Depends on where you live, one of my friends from Scotland was the one who told me what swapping parties were around 2 years ago

[@dinaginzburg7351]

I got a shein ad for this video…..💀

[@Gabriellaella23]

Same 😂

[@asdkotable]

I got a Temu ad 😂

[@helengrierson2978]

And me

[@lidialavender]

Omg same🫠

[@evi6629]

So did i...

[@_maymie]

Unfortunately, there are studies showing that even luxury brands are just as bad as fast fashion when it comes to both using slave labour and causing harmful impact to the environment. Not to mention the number of luxury brands that use real fur and leather. In other words, this isn’t a problem that is SHEIN exclusive, but related to the fashion industry in general. Of course overconsumption is a problem with SHEIN, but we need to all stop blaming only the consumers and harshly judging them, and go for the government and corporations that are allowing this

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Great point! For anyone curious about those studies/articles, here are some you can read: Can luxury brands be ethical? www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0959652619320517 Are luxury fashion brands more sustainable? remake.world/stories/are-luxury-brands-more-sustainable/ Luxury brands: higher standards or just a higher markup? www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2014/dec/10/luxury-brands-behind-gloss-same-dirt-ethics-production

[@Serena-or7sl]

ethically crafted leather is 100% better than fake leather. If you want to avoid leather, then please avoid the plastic stuff too. At least leather, if treated well, can last forever. Plastic leather disintegrates after a few years only, even if not used or taken good care of.

[@nozomi3127]

true, luxury brands burn the stock of everything they can't sell

[@nozomi3127]

and also luxury brands are completely innecesary, even some of products aren´t even good quality ...

[@nozomi3127]

There are clothing brands that are already born with a real commitment to the environment, their prices are usually higher (but ofc not as much as luxury brands).

[@camm5245]

I usually shop second hand because I can't afford a lot of clothes, but the amount of Shein I find at secondhand stores is appalling.

[@MaryJaneJones.]

Right.

[@munmunil]

@katya-do4uithey do that on purpose actually my cousin said shein charges you like $7 for a return label 😭

[@skrittle555]

ironically the shein clothes at my local thrift stores are priced higher than they would be new too. thrift stores have no idea how to price things. they think trendy = costs more when it's entirely the opposite. trendy = low quality = costs less. i'll constantly see fast fashion items of super low quality for upwards of 20$. meanwhile i'm over here buying my authentic vintage harley davidson shirts for $3 and vintage levi's for 6$. lol they have no idea what they're doing at thrift stores.

[@blablabla4256]

Me too... I bought one piece of shein 2nd hand and i'll never do it again. The material was so bad...

[@CausaBrevitatis]

Same here (in Finland), I bought some cute shein clothes from a second hand shop and they literally started falling apart after two (very gentle) washes, loose threads popping up and stitching coming undone... Now I know to avoid them but it's so sad 'cause they're everywhere!

[@lfior]

I’m disgusted by shein and brands like it, killing the planet and abusing workers just for people to satisfy their consumerism. They also blatantly steal designs from tiny brands! I’m not a perfect consumer and I make minimum wage but i don’t go near such clothes, I buy second hand and if I really want something new I save for it and buy from a brand that at the very least pays its employees and makes an effort to design its own stuff.

[@laur83]

yes a million times to this. i completely agree. i haven’t got money for every expensive thing i like but that doesn’t mean we should be turning to shein. if they were more ethical in their practices, sure. but they leave a bad taste in my mouth.

[@phatweeb69]

Okay that's you. No need to basically say "I'm too poor to shop at shien"

[@pancakegamer335]

Well, there’s brands that are high end and they participate in disgusting activity such as grooming children and they even have a design of a s e x toy that looks like a child I think we need to hold all brands accountable not just shein

[@coffeebean4356]

@@dq8431 not everyone wants to do that, that’s such a simple answer?

[@LeolaGlamour]

I think the issue with this thinking is literally unless you are buying from a brand with in house manufacturing that is ethical(these clothes are uber expensive and the brands have limited styles), you are buying from sweatshops. I own a small boutique, I could lie to you and make you feel good about shopping with me but I am ethical enough to tell you the truth is we all buy from the same factories. I cannot afford to buy $1000 packs of clothing for 6 pieces, I also do not want to sell $100-200 plain sweaters. Even high end brands use unethical factories to produce items, they do not have to they are just greedy.

[@devinthomas5671]

Honestly thanks for mentioning temu. I shop exclusively second hand and all of a sudden my advertisements on my socials and KZbin were nothing but temu for the last few weeks. It's been weirding me out and the tag line, "shop like a billionaire" very cheap vibes, not just fashion though it appears they are selling everything.

[@thedevilwearsdata]

I've been bombarded with Temu ads too. I thought it was just because I was doing research for this video, and therefore googling them a lot. But interesting to hear that you've been seeing them a lot too!

[@lt2511]

​@@thedevilwearsdata If you are a female at a certain age bracket they will advertise temu. I think you can change your gender or age in Google profile to change your ads.

[@thedevilwearsdata]

@@lt2511 Good to know!

[@janebaker4912]

I thought the "I feel so rich" ad was a bit off too...

[@CordeliaWagner]

Before I deleted my Instagram Account there was an option to block advertisements you don't like. Does it still exist?

[@kairos-049]

Speaking of Temu, I'm rather appalled that it has caught on. Especially with Shein's waning popularity, I thought people would realize that selling cheap crap and marketing yourself with the tagline "shop like a billionaire" are colossal red flags. Temu pretty much looks like Amazon but operating under Shein's business model.

[@MsCoochi]

Temu is all junk

[@phoenixmorphix]

When I saw Temu pop up on my KZbin ads, I was like "aw sh** here we go again." 💀 It literally looks like Wish.

[@phoenixmorphix]

It's crazy how their advertising changed too! Like just a few months ago, they were making these cheap looking Chinese ads about earbuds, and now they seem to have similar production quality to Target and Ross.

[@ilikeudonnoodles]

And don’t forget the whole referral system just so you can get discounts on stuff you got from referring people

[@ghoulchan7525]

​@@ilikeudonnoodles i think i got someone banned for trying that on a discord server i do voluntary mod stuff for. Sorry they look like spam bot links. So they had to be kicked.

[@lilymulligan8180]

I'm proud to say I've never given a penny to Shein, and I don't plan to. Edit: to the people asking "who cares?" You cared enough to comment 😘 To the people asking "want a trophy for that?" Yes, I do. Go ahead and leave them in the comments for me. I will accept medals, ribbons, gifts, money, and bouquets as well. To the people saying "commented from an iphone" I have an android, thank you very much 💁🏻‍♀️ lol. Please feel free to insult my phone and call me a hypocrite but at least be creative about it. In all seriousness though: sustainability isn't all or nothing. I love thrifting and have never experienced the issue that apparently many others have of being unable to find anything cute in my size. Maybe I'm lucky, idk, I've thrifted everywhere from big west coast cities to teeny tiny Midwestern farm towns and never had an issue... but I know that not everyone has the time, energy, patience, or interest to go thrifting. That's okay. Not supporting companies like SheIn is easy for me & my lifestyle. If it's not easy for you, then maybe you can find some other area of life where you can improve your sustainability. Or simply cut back on how much you buy from them. It's a tiny drop in the bucket, but as my mom says, I try be part of the solution, not part of the problem 💗

[@Amal-ku9xq]

Same here 100%

[@schmaelepaulection1431]

Me too 💯

[@rra7490]

same here, forget Shein

[@likeadino8580]

Same

[@glauciamsq]

SAME! I do own a blouse, but it's second-hand

[@alostkoi]

Weirdly enough, in my country there's this "hustle" thing that's just getting a shitton of shein clothes and sell it as a "store". It has mlm-kind of vibes, and idk they don't even get the pretty clothes from that store... Hopefully it'll fade out.

[@thedevilwearsdata]

What country? I’d love to read more about it

[@angeliqueleduc4916]

Some girls In my city did this during Covid … needless to say the “business” (cash grab) is no longer standing

[@Internet_person12]

​@@alostkoi the same thing is happening in my country Zimbabwe

[@AmyKaylasVegas]

​@@angeliqueleduc4916 yes soon as returns are easier I'll bet their business is kaput

[@amethystdream8251]

You know the people's economy doesn't have the best interests of the people in mind and heart when the people resort to stuff like this to cover their cost of living

[@madeline.leeah2]

i think a lot of the pressure to buy from brands like shein stems from a constant need to overconsume. it's not that they "can't help themselves" to buy from a crappy company, it's because our society has pressured people into constantly shopping to avoid FOMO, be trendy, etc. when i started buying high-quality clothing that fit me and flattered my body, as well as had sustainable practices, my wardrobe shrunk considerably-- but i knew i could feel good about my purchases.

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Hi Madeline! Thanks for the insightful comment - what are some brands you enjoy buying from?

[@milkiekittie6659]

Yeah people actually make fun of you for still wearing old trendy clothes lol some of us got those clothes because we actually like the style not for a trend

[@bluehibiscus502]

🙄

[@annikan42]

I would also love to know where you shop from! Commenting to follow

[@LLLadySSS]

Where do you buy from?

[@XxMyvxRocksx382xX]

couldn't their decline also be from the recession and general inflation of everything? people don't have $800 to do massive shein hauls anymore like in 2020-2021 and almost all fashion stores suffer during recessions

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Yes, definitely a factor! Inflation meant higher production costs and high air freight costs, which impacted Shein's business, according to the Financial Times article I reference in the video (also linked below in this comment if you'd like to read). I debated on whether to get into inflation in this video, but decided to focus on problems specific to Shein instead of problems that were impacting the entire fashion industry/other industries as a whole. Link: www.ft.com/content/9709f1b8-a8b8-4210-bdd8-784a3025758d

[@XxMyvxRocksx382xX]

@Evelyn Greene yes but im referring more to the trend of unecessary $300-$1000 hauls that were going on, now most people have stopped that recently and just purchasing clothes in smaller doses also it seems that shein has raised prices in most of their merchandise but not necissarily quality

[@turquoisedeer]

They also lost Russia as I assume a pretty big market bcs there's the SWIFT ban against Russian banks.

[@LmaoMoni]

What’s crazy is their prices have slowly crept up too

[@Sabrina-sx9fl]

Tbh I didn‘t enjoy this video as it didn‘t highlight the 2 most important factors why people stopped buying so much on shein: inflation and shein‘s price increases which made MANY pieces just as expensive as h&m or even zara for worse quality. People used to buy from shein because it was dirt cheap but ofc with poor quality plus a large size range. Now it‘s like h&m but with the same bad quality as before. It is not because people are all of a sudden environmentally friendly shopping and ditching ALL fast fashion brands, yes it is a factor but it‘s so small in contrast to inflation and price increases without better quality. EVERY single brand produces unethically nearly the same way as shein except if the brand‘s whole concept is about producing environmentally friendly/paying workers enough. H&M, Bershka, Zara, Hollister, Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger literally ever single brand is the same but only shein gets shit on like this and people act like the more you pay for clothes the better it is for the environment/workers when you‘re just filling the wallets of billionaires with their high margins just to feel better and shame others for buying cheap.

[@SamWhite-pg7bj]

So I’m studying fashion and I remember a few years ago we did a unit on sustainability, and I feel like most people don’t even begin to realize how bad fast fashion is. The entire fashion industry alone is the second biggest polluter to the planet (oil is #1), and not even just it’s child labor but how the labor affects the countries, such as Indonesia being a big country for dying leather and textile creation in fast fashion, which has ruined its water supply and has lead to cancer and development issues among the children there. The fast fashion industry is insane

[@haha-eg8fj]

Yes but they also provide enough jobs for the labor market in developing countries. Otherwise these people would be begging for foods on the streets.

[@marvin2678]

@@haha-eg8fj dumb view lol

[@la_gobba_di_aigor]

It's become so difficult to find an ethical and ecological brand that I've literally decided to start making my own clothes so that I can at least control the materials used and the labour conditions (aka me in my kitchen).

[@bulgogimaster]

That's because an ethical and ecological brand will cost a lot of money and the margin isn't so great for scaling business. Best you could do is buy thrifted clothes and yes, make your own. There are small brands out there that offer what you want but the thing is, most do not want to pay premium for that kind of quality unless the brand is already established.

[@makenzie9088]

Is it harder to make your own clothes? Or like easier bc it’s ur size and if you want something you can just make it? Bc that sounds smart, but is it cheaper?

[@wren_.]

me too. if I see something online i want to buy, I’ll try to make it. If I don’t want to make it, then obviously I didn’t wanna buy it that much.

[@wren_.]

@@makenzie9088 depends on what kind of clothing you’re making. If you already have a sewing machine, then all you need is some spare fabric, which you can usually get pretty cheap at thrift shops or for a little bit more money at a fabric shop. of course, the thread costs a little bit too, and it does take some time to make a piece of clothing. overall, I would say sewing clothes isn’t that expensive, at least compared to other hobbies like crochet. Crochet is definitely more expensive than fast fashion, because you usually multiple skeins of yarn to finish one project. Yard is about $10 where I live, so if you want to make a shirt using three colors of yarn, that’s about $30-$40. however, making her own clothing is way more rewarding than buying it from a fashion shop, because it means you actually like the clothing that you’re making.

[@marvin2678]

how did you learn ?

[@xristinarose2409]

Shein is not the problem, overconsumption is. I recently bought 1 pair of jeans from shein and i dont feel bad because im poor rn and i needed the pants and buying from other fast fashion stores like zara or h&m wouldnt have made a big difference in environment but it is a big difference in price for me. Either way just try to not buy more then you need all the time and then everything will be much more balanced and environment friendly

[@Bn22133]

Did you miss the part about how SHEIN treats its workers??? Sure over consumption is the problem, but so is abuse. SHEIN is the problem too.

[@xristinarose2409]

@@Bn22133 Yes i heard but most big businesses do this crap unfortunately. We are not the problem, the greedy psychopath bosses do this evil. Switching from Shein to Zara would change almost nothing. The only thing I hope and pray for is that the government starts protecting its people against those monsters who abuse humans. I cannot stop this evil unfortunately and 80% of my clothes are thrifted anyways so i dont have the power to force businesses into being ethical

[@Bn22133]

@@xristinarose2409 I agree entirely!! 2nd hand and thrifting is 100% the way to go.

[@sophieminter0]

Both SheIn and overconsumption are the problem

[@digitalartemis333]

Exactly, I buy clothes from ROMWE but the last time I did was last summer, I needed new shirts and I’m a broke college student

[@xAlbinopiratex]

It blows my mind how people criticise Shein and the people who buy from them, then buy the EXACT SAME PRODUCT for more money at a different company. Just because you spend more, doesn't mean it's not made the same way, and coming from the same company. Its been this way for decades. Unless you are buying directly from a designer, majority of what you buy in stores and online is "fast fashion". Even thrifting is generally re-buying a lot of fast fashion. I understand that there are people who don't want to buy "fast fashion" but unless you are spending A LOT of money, and having a direct client designer relationship, its highly unlikely that you're not supporting "fast fashion" anyway. Even a lot of designers use the same "sweat shop" factories that companies like Shein use. I think if people actually did the research on their favourite brands, they'd be shocked.

[@Danislashed]

Okay but let's not pretend that buying secondhand or that buying from specific sustainable brands isn't better than buying from Shein or a luxury brand. Though, in general, we should focus on reducing our consumption.

[@twinkledinkle3458]

Look up the rana plaza disaster

[@LoveAndSnapple]

I agree. It's different heads connecting to the same monster.

[@hollystop]

There are layers to this though, not all fast fashion brands are as horrendous as shein! Yes they are also bad but these shein shoppers can’t even make themselves choose the slightly less bad option and that’s the sad part.

[@liv97497]

Most people who are highly critical of fast fashion do their research before purchasing. I don't know where you're from, but while the US is highly homogenized when it comes to brands, other places aren't. Where I live, for example, there are a whole lot of smaller shops or even smaller "chains", brands that have grown and have like 10 stores nation wide. That's an entirely different thing than any big fast fashion brand. Even more than that, there's been a rise in sustainably made clothing and a lot of shops are transparent abou where their supplies come from, because their consumers care about it. Personally, I am fortunate enough to be at a place where clothes shopping is entirely superfluous; there are no more garments that I absolutely need to buy to survive, and so I've made it my personal rule that if I can't easily find out who is making the items and where the materials are coming from, I simply don't buy it. I've been able to find and support quite a few great businesses this way. Something common in this business model is that the products aren't readily available - you make the purchase and then it goes into production. This cuts overproduction WAY down and makes it much more feasible for small businesses. There are also brands now that show you their production and the faces of the people who are making the thing you bought. I could go on and on and on!

[@Nkanyiso_K]

Hope we all transition to slow fashion trends

[@katrina-xh8rz]

I'm so glad their business is finally slowing down. Let's normalize buying clothes less, and saving up for pieces we really care about and need!!!

[@once6612]

Anyone know any ethical clothing sites? I'm a broke college student, I was gonna buy from shein so I can slowly build my dream wardrobe :( (don't recommend thrifting, there's only one thrift store in my town)

[@thedevilwearsdata]

I will pin your comment for a day so you get responses!

[@once6612]

@@thedevilwearsdata thank you!

[@aminahm8223]

I don’t enjoy thrifting irl but I love thrifting online. I prefer Depop and the Real Real

[@bargainbinboy]

mercari is my favorite online thrift. vestiare collective, real real, and grailed r good too

[@maryjanedodo]

Best way to buy ethical is to avoid synthetic fibres & poor quality as much as possible. Best way to invest in clothes ethically is to buy timelessly tailored garments made of natural fibres - they get better with age, keep you warmer / cooler & don't hurt anyone during production or decomposition + because they last they have re-sale value & wear or tear is repairable.

[@paigefaith4924]

As someone with sensory issues, Shein clothes make my skin itch. It’s like polyester clothing that itches as bad as a wool sweater 😭🤮 it also gets worn down quickly so I will never order from them again. They are the worst of the worst of clothing given the fact that they are fastest fashion brand that makes the worst quality clothes… which means clothes thrown out very often compared to better quality fast fashion brands or hopefully non fast fashion brands

[@amethystdream8251]

Oh god seriously they're so uncomfortable! Like who cares how sexy some of the stuff looks, it doesn't feel sexy lmao

[@paigefaith4924]

@@amethystdream8251 it’s literally the most cheap shit, when I bought lingerie from there I felt like a cheap prostitute…..

[@that_one_l0ne_ghost]

the only time i ever bought from Shein, i bought a Van Gogh themed shirt. to tell you how cheap it felt would be underselling it... it was gross just on a sensory level, i knew nothing about Shein beforehand but it absolutely guaranteed that i would never be buying from there again

[@basicange]

ugh their quality is always so random. I bought a shirt and the fabric was like a slippery fabric like the ones adidas uses for their pants and i sweat so much in it

[@miuletzmitzu6641]

Some of my best shirts are from Shein, and it's not like my wardrobe is full of 5$ shirts, I'm comparing some to like 40-50$ shirts. So far hoodies are decent but too thin for winter, holding up nice even more than a year later. The crop tops are the best, amazing material and it's the most comfortable thing ever. Shirts are pretty decent but I did come across one mediocre shirt once. It depends on what you got, there's a lot of shady products with like 10 bot reviews. The things I got always had thousands of reviews and I always read dozens of comments/look at pictures before getting something. It's your fault for not looking into the reviews and what material the clothing used.

[@takemeseriouslynt]

its so funny that their downfall is still crazy amounts of money , like imagine losing absurd amounts of customers and still winning, somethign is wrong there

[@odette4059]

as someone who’s young and isn’t very into all the environmental/political stuff to do with brands, my reason for pulling away from shein is their interface recommending products that have nothing to do with me and the fact that their products are kinda awfully bad quality, like, wearing it just makes me feel greasy. Idk how to explain it.

[@thedevilwearsdata]

That's a really interesting point! I wonder how they've programmed their recommendation algorithm (i.e. if they know your age, demographics, or if it's just based on search history). Might be something I look into in the future.

[@x77punk77x]

You care about how ‘cringe’ some garment or accessory makes you feel but not about the hellish work/life conditions of the workers who manufactured it. Interesting.

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

@@x77punk77x They're too young to realize that "not being into politics" doesn't mean your life isn't touched by them.

[@odette4059]

@@x77punk77x no, i’m putting this in perspective of a regular person, someone who if you really think about it, can’t do anything about the hellish conditions workers are put into. Do you think we specifically picked for it to be this way? Id love to have the workers paid fgs. I’ll assure you i and others are well aware of the issues but speaking on behalf of us young adults (sheins focus demographic), we really just can’t do anything about it. That’s the reality of it. The problems are overwhelming, but we can’t afford the better solutions/alternatives for clothing to help fix the problems especially in these horrible economies. Great that you had great quality affordable clothes back in your stone age made by workers who were paid a good amount of money but we don’t get that privilege, and jobs nowadays aren’t paying a lot, so yes i’m gonna buy cheap clothing cause I can’t afford to do much else, and i’m speaking for the majority here. Don’t assume things straight on.

[@miaferrari958]

That "greasy" feeling you're describing is probably the feeling of polyester on your skin. It's basically plastic. I can't wear polyester because it also makes me sweat like crazy.

[@iminacult1636]

The third party sellers on Shein are already a thing in Shein Mexico, a couple of brands show up in the tag of "Local brands" or "Local shipping". I think it's interesting and a good bussiness move tbh. Unfortunately, the makeup brands that sell thru Shein are brands that copy others to sell a cheaper version (just like Shein tho so I guess it's matches their values lol) BUT one brand specifically has sold moldy eyeshadow palettes.

[@phatweeb69]

So you are pointing and laughing at people who can't afford the overpriced branded make up. How nice. Dupes are a thing for good reason.

[@aylinrubiogarcia4619]

@@phatweeb69to be fair in México there’s a lot of makeup brands that are cheaper than shein’s and have a better quality than those overpriced branded, bissú, italia deluxe, pink up, beauty creations are some of those, and i don’t think they were laughing at those people (at least from what i understood in their comment)

[@ijwd424]

I sometimes shop from Shein because I'm on an extremely tight budget. Food prices have gone through the roof and I don't have money to spend $20 on a shirt that has the same quality as a $5 shirt from SHEIN. And going thrifting means I spend over an hour in a store just to find 1 thing that actually fit me (I'm petite and curvy). However I limit my purchases from there and only buy what I know I will use. Things like basic shirts that go with everything. Whenever possible, I also repair my clothes. If you learn how to care for your clothes, even cheap pieces can last you a really long time.

[@kaw8473]

I will never download Temu and will never give a dime to Shein. I buy 80% of what I own from Goodwill and yard sales, while the Just Between Friends sale is my go-to for children's clothes.

[@Irisicaaa]

Temu literally the same fucking garbage ? It's a Chinese company that's just going to spy on you and sell you crap products.

[@vacafuega]

So few views?? This channel is awesome, hope it blows up soon bc this is great content. Love how you include short content clips to give context like tiktok videos, etc. It helps bring the video to life and creates a nice change of pace from the data, keeps my mind focused.

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment! I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed the format! :)

[@extrastout1741]

Unfortunately, it is growth that is decreasing, not the company sales. When u r as big as shein u cannot grow so big continuously. For instance, if u sell 30 shoes u can double to 60 shoes. But if u already sell 30 million it is hard to double to 60 million.

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thank you for watching and commenting! Both are true - the sales declined in the latter half of 2022 due to a slowing economy (this data is from Earnest Research, a financial analysis company) and as a result the company's growth slowed as well.

[@extrastout1741]

@@thedevilwearsdata true, I mean I really hope it's a trend that marks the end and not just a little downtick for a company so big though. Ideally they don't get overrun by just another ultrafast fashion too.

[@derred723]

if a person doesn't want to buy from a brand that is their choice. And i think the environmental impact of plastic and worker treatment are perfectly understandable reasons. I can respect someone who will put their money where their moral conscious is. That being said, seems to me "they use lots of polyester and thus plastic" seems to apply to pretty much any clothing store. Like i'm sure, pick a clothier, banana republic, uniqlo, J. Crew, Brooks Brothers, Nike, all use polyester. And i do wonder how far that conviction goes. Again i'm not saying don't have the conviction. I'm saying being mad at Shein cause they have polyester and then going to The Gap and buying a cotton hoody even though they've got 10 other hoody's with polyester seems, well, weird. As maybe the issue is buying polyester clothes at all rather than any one store. Maybe the issue is all the stores. That said, as a person that likes wrinkle free men's dress shirts i have to say, I'm all for a good wrinkle free poly blend. not Sorry. Cause wrinkled dress shirts look bad.

[@SemekiIzuio]

The way I see it, the product has unfortunately already been made and if it isnt bought, it is trashed in landfills not recycled because recycling cost resources such as money. So I end up just buying from local businesses who buy left over inventory from these major big brands. Similar to Ross Burlington TJMax Marshalls except its from a local business. I rather give my money to someone whom isn't necessarily a billion dollar corporation like the previous stores mentioned. Ofc there is 2nd hand shopping but as I said the products are already made and us not buying from an official store doesn't mean theyll stop producing them.

[@hotjanuary]

@@FancyForestPerson fabric quality matters. You can have poor quality fabric made from cotton and it won’t last. I have vintage cotton clothes that I hand wash and hang to dry. The quality of the fabric doesn’t compare to that I currently find at the store. Furthermore, the quality of cotton fabric has really gone down hill at the fabric shop. I have quilting acquaintances that complained that the cotton fabric is shit compared to what used to be offered 15 years ago.

[@E42545]

@@hotjanuary yup. Less about fiber content more about quality of fiber and quality of weave. Polyester isn’t anymore evil than low quality and unethically picked and processed cotton. The supply chain (of quality and ethics) goes aaaall the way down to all of the components of the garment and where they came from. Low quality clothes are low quality clothes.

[@pipianvideos]

the problem is the output of shein in particular. with how many items they are producing, it outproduces all of the name brand fashion producers.. just look at how many listings they produce compared to competitors. not that the others dont contribute to the issue, but shein is notoriously bad about this.. but fast fashion is indeed everywhere its not just a shein problem

[@mutedroar]

I strive to only buy natural fibers in my day-to-day clothing. Theres a big difference between a poly tshirt and a cotton on. I get soaked in sweat wearing poly, or other plastics, but cotton lets my body breathe like in should, its far more comfortable. I recently bought one shirt that was 50% poly, and I can't wear it without a wool underlayer to help with the sweating. Its a winter only to now lol

[@SimplyStormy]

I have never purchased anything from shein…. But I am ashamed to admit my entire closet is fashion nova. I haven’t purchased from them in about a year. 1. The thot like clothes do not appeal to me anymore 2. They gouged priced while still overlong discounts but they increased the price by 30 % and then they give you a 30% coupon…. So you can buy it full price. I refuse to fall into the shein trap

[@xaviaaaa]

I just ordered some items from them. I probably order about $150-300 a year on clothes. I can say that I got some decent quality items from them for a great price (decent because its not paper thin like shein but not durable enough to last a lifetime) I think I will keep the clothes I ordered for a long time before feeling like I need to order more clothes again. They are having a sale right now & actual cute items I got 21 items averaging about $9 per item which is wayyyyy cheaper than the bs on shein & with slightly better quality. although I don’t fully agree with how fast fashion businesses operate thats about the most affordable option out their for clothing

[@anthropomorphicpeanut6160]

@@xaviaaaa I understand that it's more affordable but do you _really_ need those clothes? $300 of clothes can last many years for most people

[@larissabrglum3856]

I used to buy from fast fashion brands like Forever 21, but I stopped a few years ago. Progress is something to be proud of!

[@xaviaaaa]

@@anthropomorphicpeanut6160 yes I actually needed the clothes I purchased, I mentioned previously that I only spend about $150-$300 on clothes PER YEAR. Im not a over consumer I purchase items I need when I need them.

[@Loveit45]

Fashion nova material better

[@Patchouliprince]

Wait a whole decade??? How have I never heard of them until 2020 if they’ve been around that long? Bonkers

[@thedevilwearsdata]

They’ve actually been around since 2008! But started growing in 2012

[@Patchouliprince]

@@thedevilwearsdata That’s so wild! Thanks for sharing- You learn something new everyday

[@nattojelly8349]

Can a company that exists for a decade be still classified as a startup? Just wondering

[@thedevilwearsdata]

That’s a great question. There are different ways to answer this question. Some say a company is no longer a startup when it’s been profitable over a certain period of time, others say it’s when it has existed for a decade or more, others say it’s when a company has made a complete product. A less abstract rule people turn to (created by a writer named Alex Wilhelm at TechCrunch) is called the 50-100-500 rule, in which a company is no longer considered a startup if it has $50 million in revenue or more, 100 or more employees, or worth at least $500 million. Since Shein meets all of these, a lot of people wouldn’t consider it a startup, especially because it’s been around for so long, has billions in revenue, and employs a reported 10,000+ people. Hope that helps!

[@nattojelly8349]

@@thedevilwearsdata oh my god thank you so much for the detailed explanation ! That was very helpful!!

[@yunyunid981]

even putting aside morals, why would you waste money on something so trash? i happen to have a lingerie set from shein (didn't buy it thankfully), and it's the weirdest, worst thing i've ever laid my hands on. h&m is like loro piana compared to shein. the prices are ridiculous even for a fast fashion behemoth, there's almost 0 chance something so cheap can last even a month

[@ereristark425]

That's the thing, the clothes can last surprisingly long depending on how you buy. I only ever buy bitten blends and my clothes lasts a long time. Albeit, I've shopped ta SheIn 3 times within the last 2 years for myself & my younger sibling.

[@pinkiepiereincarnate2291]

Funny you say that cause there's many chances that it can last a month. I've had all my clothes from shein for over a year and they last as long as anything else I have.

[@Jaesdaes]

@@pinkiepiereincarnate2291 mhm see how well they last over the next 5 years, like a good garment would be able to, with minimal wear or tear. please, for the love of god, save up and buy ones that will last you for years.

[@celestegarcia923]

@@pinkiepiereincarnate2291 most of my shein clothes now have holes or undone threading. Not to mention the quality is awful and thin

[@pinkiepiereincarnate2291]

@Celeste Garcia very unfortunate that that's been the case for you but my mom also buys things from there as funnily being one of the easiest places to get well fitting plus size clothes and she's also not had any problems over the years

[@chickenlurkinyungchihuahua]

To be honest I can't blame people buying from Shein for their cheap price and not everyone can afford ethical clothings. Speaking demographically, many buyers usually come from developing countries and they make businesses buying bulk for the community.

[@yeskaitlyn8029]

affordability is not an excuse. Thrifting, walmart, donation stores, etc are all ways to find clothes and do it in an ethical way. Anyone spewing this is just looking for an excuse to buy from Shein and are the same people doing "$200 hauls"

[@booklover3449]

@chrrycola2717I will keep buying from them. The humans are killing the environment.

[@forsoktillvuxen]

@@yeskaitlyn8029 maybe you should direct your anger towards the stores instead of the buyers

[@chickenlurkinyungchihuahua]

@@yeskaitlyn8029 unfortunately people living outside of America (southeast asia, south asia) doesn’t have the luxury of “thrifting, walmart, donation stores” like you imagined. Different cultures have different perspective on those things and they are also entitled to feel good, rather than seen needy. It’s a complex topic to dive into. But that doesn’t justify that fast fashion is okay either. You have to remember not everything revolves around where we live and how we live.

[@chickenlurkinyungchihuahua]

@Chrry Cola right. People who grew up without being in two sides of the world will never understand this and think everything can be solved according to “how they think things should be” when in fact not everyone has the luxury like them to choose where to shop for basic neccessities smh.

[@bunnyblue9311]

As a plus size woman, Who has a low budget I have no choice but to shop at SHEIN. I used to shop at Fashion Nova but I can no longer afford to shop there . I usually only purchase once or twice a year from them by necessity. I have no choice. The thrift stores don’t usually sell my size and if they do on occasion it’s usually something granny or something a mature woman would wear.I wear their clothes till it falls apart and purchase new ones accordingly. But I’m not a fan of the constant hauls most of the time they wear it once or twice then get rid of it. Which doesn’t help the problem.

[@karolinakuc4783]

Clothes are said to contain toxic heavy metals like lead in their paint which also affects your body. Buy some chlorella and eat it or put it on your body to remove toxines.

[@dazedneptune]

Yay another great video! You’re off to a strong start. It’s so well researched and high quality. I can’t wait to see future videos

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it :)

[@spacewinter]

In 2012 I bought from a Chinese e-commerce company once. Got shoddy items and my credit card number stolen. Never bought from one of these places again😢 Buying cheap but high quality thrift items is a lot of fun though. Or from estate sales.

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Do you remember the name of it by any chance? Shein was around back in 2012, but not as reliable and popular as it is today!

[@spacewinter]

@@thedevilwearsdata hmm, I think it was Romwe. Definitely not shein. But its good to know the security has improved! I actually still have one of the shirts I bought, but doesn't have a tag so can't know for sure lol

[@hannahmartin7313]

One thing you did not mention in the video, but I find personally important, is the range of sizes Shein offers at an affordable price. As a plus sized woman myself, finding clothes in my size that aren't insanely expensive, terribly tacky, or granny clothes is difficult. Yes, there are more sustainable alternatives, but thrifting becomes less and less of an option as resalers buy up stock and jack up prices. Then there are straight-sized people buying "oversized" clothes several times their size for the aesthetic. I am one to very rarely get rid of clothes at all because my finds can be so far and few between. I understand that shein is bad, but I also understand that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

[@SamanthaBezzina]

Learn to sew your own clothing

[@undererock]

@@SamanthaBezzina You too then.

[@whatcanidooo]

People should be allowed to wear whatever sized clothes they want. I hate it when people complain about straight-sized people buying oversized clothing at thrift stores. What if they have dysphoria? Or what if they only feel comfortable in baggy clothing? Literally let people do what they want with their bodies it’s not the fault of those people that brands don’t make enough plus sized clothing

[@rustysushi5318]

@@whatcanidooo not that big of a deal when you’re buying new, but it’s a bit irritating when I want to thrift and all the halfway decent stuff was bought up by straight sized people and resellers.

[@whatcanidooo]

@@rustysushi5318 i just feel like we shouldn’t be telling some people that they aren’t allowed to wear what they’re comfortable in, and the anger should be directed at clothing companies instead

[@grape.juices]

I’m a graduate of central saint martins who studied material futures and had the opportunity to work with Stella McCartney to create sustainable materials for the fashion industry. The truth is that most fast fashion companies are just as responsible if not more responsible than Shein for environmentally and morally questionable practices. H&M, Zara, old Navy, the gap, Victoria’s Secret and Uniqlo (and so many more fast fashion brands) all paved the way for the acceptance of throwaway clothes and endless consumption. The biggest truth is that Shein is not any different, you need to be more open about discussing the politics surrounding the demonisation of Shein because it’s a Chinese brand, rather than a western brand that is taking a big chunk of the customer base away from legacy fast fashion brands which most likely also pour reasonable amounts of money into marketing campaigns against Shein and hiring influencers to make it seem as though Shein is the only bad company out there. Shein isn’t doing anything these other companies have been doing for decades, the only problem here you see is that this is a Chinese company that’s taking away business from western companies. That’s all there is to it. So for those of you out there intellectual enough that reject ever buying from this company put your research skills to good use and figure out if you aren’t already buying fast fashion from other companies with similar if not worse practices. You most probably are. Most people aren’t rich enough to have things custom made with natural fibres and natural dyes or buy from sustainable fashion brands like Stella McCartney and Patagonia. The only alternative would be to buy everything second hand, however these clothes that end up in these shops are mostly the very throwaway clothes being discussed here. Equally harmful, releasing toxic chemicals in the making of the material, exposing workers to toxicity and releasing microfibres into waterways. So you guys in the comments saying you will never buy Shein, how about you never buy any clothes? That would be magnificent though. Reducing is the only way to actually make an impact. Double standards make you guys hypocrites.

[@ownthegame3]

Great video. Regardless of what may happen with Shein, the next fast fashion company is likely to take a leaf from them than Zara and H&M -- the trend may not be reversed. Yes, Temu will be one to watch closely; it is an interesting business model, especially after its success in China against online giants like Alibaba and JD. Will you be doing a video next?

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thanks for watching and the comment Stephen! Temu is def on my list of videos to make :)

[@class6aa]

Temu has a bad reputation in China as compared to its counterparts

[@krk6216]

The algorithm said watch this and when I saw your channel name I said say no more

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Hahaha amazing, thank you

[@AlphaInsomnia]

People criticise me very harshly because i buy from Shein. While i of course don’t approve their work ethics, for someone who can BARELY afford Shein, there is no other alternatives for me. Thrifting doesn’t work because most of the time I can’t find anything that fits me due to my size. Ethical brands are so expensive and I don’t have a budget to pay 20 bucks for a shirt. That’s like one week of groceries for me. It’s so easy to judge people and preach about Shein. Good for you if you’re able to support ethical brands, i on the other hand don’t have a choice like you.

[@acesword8330]

I understand but I’m from a lower wage and have to dig to find my size shopping ethically is about patience and knowing where/how to find things (leena Norms did a great depop search video that really helped the way I find things online) (depop, Vinted, Etsy, eBay, charity shops and car boot/garage sales are all where I buy things) but I guess some people don’t have the mental space or time to do all that just to find a good shirt it’s more the people who buy shein 24/7 and have a good wage who are the worst offenders but here are some free tips take them or not I don’t mind you’re not the one causing the problems but I’m just showing you that you’re not restricted to buying just fast fashion good clothes are just hidden in corners and apps (I’m really trying to not come off as harsh I hate being rude to people who don’t deserve it this comment might come off strange I have a cold at the moment so my heads foggy 😅)

[@glamforall]

Sure but time is money, and I find it kind of condescending that you suggest she simply try harder (and waste time (money) that she already doesn’t have to waste) to fit your preferred narrative - when will we stop putting extremely global and systemic issues on the individual? This is why wokeness will never win; we are too concerned with tongue wagging at individuals, all the while corporations and governments are HAPPY to push the buck onto individuals to solve structural issues they will never have the power to solve via thrifting on a Tuesday.

[@scarletlady3727]

Why should she “ work harder” “dive deeper”..just to afford to buy from “ ethical companies “…HOW ABOUT YOU SAY THAT TO THE ETHICAL COMPANY INSTEAD….tell them to sell their products at low enough prices for hard working lower to working class people ..I shop at SHEIN because I can’t afford to shop anywhere else . ARE YOU going to give me 100$ so I can buy at outfit from an ethical company?!?!…NO , so STFU THEN!!

[@acesword8330]

@@glamforall really I was just giving advice (totally unsolicited but most replies are anyway) take it or leave it kind of thing honestly the original commenter could have ignored it and that’s completely fine maybe aimed at the wrong person though just related to the original comment being in a similar place it’s more of a personal choice (based on how privileged you are) like veganism btw as a person with adhd I know how time is money preaching to the choir here I mostly look for clothes during holidays or weekends and if I want nice clothes I have a savings account so I can save up for good quality things that last but again I understand why that’s a lot of energy that other people don’t have since they could be less privileged than me I really should have used my energy somewhere else (some things I took personally from this comment at first condescending preferred narrative and wagging as someone with adhd who has insecurities with not feeling like I should even have opinions or points of views and always double questioning myself and being told I’m talking to much it shook me up and I had a bit of cry while typing two replies that I deleted because they were practically an incoherent blubbery mess😅 but it all good now I know people can be frustrating but I’m being well intentioned maybe some things I should’ve worded better in my first comment since I think I sounded abit preachy like using but was trying to think of a connecting word while having foggy cold head just always think about the person behind the phone who you are replying to ) hope you have a good day bye 💕

[@acesword8330]

@@glamforall btw I agree that it’s the company’s and government who really are at fault since they are too head assed to look at what they are doing unless protested or seen under the “market” so really big change would come from voting, protesting, emailing crappy companies and donating to organizations I just like making a tiny difference even if it’s only like 0.55555 percent but that’s my own prerogative just giving advice to anybody out there in the void who wants to do the same ok now actually bye and good day 😂💕

[@CordeliaWagner]

I don't like Ultra Fast Fashion. The mindset behind it. The environmental damage. I have never bought clothes from SHEIN and never will. I like Second Hand shopping. I can get high quality items for a low price. And the chemicals are washed out, chemicals that can cause cancer and other health problems.

[@katelynwhitesnyder6404]

I’ve seen a shein crop top at Plato’s closet for $10 and it HAD A HUGE HOLE. I looked it up and the original asking price on shein was $5. 😂😂😂

[@laur83]

i wouldn’t lump zara and shein in the same category. yes, they both sell on-trend, mass produced fashion and accessories, but the quality and pricing of zara is much higher than shein. and their ethics far surpass shein’s.

[@Jaesdaes]

they're both fast fashion. they both suck.

[@kashishkukreja5904]

Can you please make one for luxury brands and what even makes a brand a luxury brand in the 21st century. Loving your content, subscribed!

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Great idea, and thank you for subscribing!

[@readbetterbooks6813]

I live by: if the clothing product is so cheap even when it's new (not secondhand or thrifted), chances are its quality is so bad or you have to be unreasonably careful so that the item will last for a while. So I'm trying to save for brands that are not crazy expensive but I know, by experience, to last a while.

[@harryishonline8600]

I’m not defending shein but I will say most everything I’ve gotten from there has lasted me now like 4+ years so I think it’s just looking about the quality pieces from them. DAZY is especially a good brand to me though it’s smaller sizes but their oversized sweaters have lasted me for so long

[@madz2013]

I have only bought one swimsuit years ago from Shein when it was just beginning to become popular. Somehow it's lasted me years and I still wear it but I still think about who made it and how it came to be in my possession and I'm reminded why I've never bought anything else from them.

[@Ohdeyummm]

With sales going down that also means that people are starting to do better and I’m so proud. I know a lot of people were really upset for getting called out for shopping there which is semi understandable clothes are definitely expensive out here. Especially with people taking all of the decent thrift clothes and reselling them for ridiculous prices.hopefully fast fashion continues to crumble or at least get to a presale or made to order mindset.

[@wren_.]

doubt it. Most of them are just going to move over to Temu and pretend like they did some thing

[@amethystdream8251]

Great channel name, and the data you're sharing is very much needed. Thank you for what you do!

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thank YOU for watching and leaving a nice comment!! :)

[@trishemerald2487]

So glad I found this - I love data and fashion/beauty, so it's a great mix. Cheers from Canada (home of fast fashion's joe fresh).

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Welcome! And thanks for watching. I’ll add Joe Fresh to my list of companies to look into!

[@esmeeteeuw1264]

As soon as I saw your channel name, I had to subscribe! I love the concept & the pun ❤

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thanks so much :)

[@-2250]

if a company goes public, from financial point of view it means that it can’t afford borrowing from the bank and goes through rough times - a bad sign for its investors 🤷‍♀️

[@sophiatomlinson1231]

Really good video! I love how you included explanations for terms that are maybe not well known!

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thanks so much Sophia!

[@jadeh23]

this is the kind of content my heart has been aching for💗 focusing on beauty and fashion while still being very informative

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thank you! Being informative is what I aim to do :)

[@chloebunbun]

Very high quality, well researched vid yet again ❤ keep it up. I'm looking forward to seeing more

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thank you :')

[@itsnolano]

Keep making videos please!!! So good and so informative!❤️

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thanks so much!

[@safy907]

I bought 3 t shirts. When they arrived they were so poor quality that I deleted the app.

[@munmunil]

what’s interesting is that in my logistics class we learned that sustainability is important to suppliers and brands but they know that most consumers SAY those things are important to them without fully researching the company. They can advertise how sustainable they are and still have slave labor or still use toxic chemicals in their clothing.

[@ec4145]

Shein is super successful because of the points system rewarding reviews, specifically giving more for each picture. People are more likely to buy online when they can see what it really looks like with a good variety of body types.

[@Amberxxbbunni]

Where else can I shop? My parents don’t have that much money. I live in the UK and my parents are both key workers (teacher and social worker) and people in their field of work are on strike. My dad couldn’t strike bc we’re desperate for money. The first time they actually were like “okay we can afford that” is when I bought clothes from SHIEN. Our local thrift shop is expensive and so is the online one. I want clothes that fit my style bc I still have clothes from when I was 8/9 years old. I honestly don’t know what to do. I even try to save up for money to be able to buy clothes from ethical clothing shops but I can only get 1-2 items.

[@MsKateC2K]

There is no reason to feel bad for buying Shein if it's what you can afford. People that stick their noses up at Shein and other affordable clothing are coming from a place of privilege where they have access to other clothes that claim to be more sustainable but are probably not in practice

[@KrisKim]

KZbin throwing a SHEIN ad at the beginning of the vid 💀💀💀

[@user-fe8uq9zp2g]

You should do this on fashion nova or pretty little thing. Since shein I feel like their presence on social media has declined immensely and they aren’t as popular anymore.

[@littlestpetshopjodee]

The only thing i got from shein was a dress that looked nice i seemed to be a nice fit... Plus i had no time to go shopping since i was neck deep into university work. Well it was really bad the straps weren't adjustable, wasn't form fitting and the 'skirt' was barely there and thought i would flash by just turning my body. The material was horrible and i said never again. My sister loves shein despite me telling her that it's bad quality, bad for you and not worth while but she stands by it. Tell my mam the same thing but she prefers to listen to my sister because "it's cheap"

[@sparklesparklesunshine4927]

I m living in a country where medium net salary is 850 euro so we can not afford anything else besides fast fashion but because we are kinda poor we are also kinda frugal and we keep our fast fashion items for years. I hope that people living in richer countries who can afford more sustainable brands will stop buying (so much) fast fashion. My country even has a lot of second hand stores and outlets so we are polluting less. Also we never buy huge shein hauls anyway bc we don t afford.

[@ayeoklex]

I got a shein ad before this vid started

[@ravenn532]

ugh it’s so bad for the environment, i’m glad to hear this

[@AlishaN-qj5iz]

Love the concept of your channel! Would NOT mind longer videos! 🤩

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thanks Alisha!

[@lunaangeleclipse9745]

A few years ago I was really tempted by Shein's low prices and nice styles, but because I'm a very anxious, miserly shopper who often cringes at the idea of making purchases that I haven't dwelled on for at least 6 months, I never ended up buying any. Now that I'm more educated about the fashion industry and more active in second-hand clothing, I'm glad my constant inability to commit to purchases has paid off 😂

[@lillipearse5579]

I use Vinted and I’m so sick of seeing plastic SHEIN trash on there! Most of it is new and unworn because it’s literally unwearable- the people selling it can’t get rid of it for £1-2!

[@lunaredelvour2972]

I turn to Shein if I need a specific piece of clothing (usually basics that I struggle to find reasonably priced in-store. Think white shirts, plain black turtlenecks, ect. that mix and match everywhere instead of being the main part of an outfit each time). I only ever get stuff I know I'm gonna be wearing/using for multiple years. So while I am still using Shein, I wouldn't say I'm in the group that's overdoing it. I can't afford to spend much, even for basics like this - and while I'd love to save up for good quality clothing, we're looking at several months worth of saving because I really don't have much wiggle room in my monthly spending (I gotta live within my means). I won't need the particular item anymore by the time I can afford it xD

[@lilyozment4618]

Just want to say that your channel concept is really interesting and I think you'll go far with it!

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thanks so much Lily!!

[@zg3342]

If all these fast fashion brands died we’d be better off.

[@Anonymous-bi5pv]

... unless you're poor and can't afford to buy 50$ t shirts of the same shi . tty quality as SheIn from other brands, lmao. The classism that always arises from discussions about SheIn is disappointing but not surprising

[@zg3342]

@@Anonymous-bi5pv shirts that aren’t shien and these other fast fashion brands aren’t 50 dollars? What’re you talking about? You can buy a Tshirt for 6 dollars at a Walmart that has documented and better supply chain practices than mystery ones shien and those like them. Ones that are run on basically slavery but you aren’t worried about those class problems?

[@kvothe3660]

​@@Anonymous-bi5pv That's a bs excuse. I'm on a tight budget, however, I can find high quality clothing items on second hand sites for shein prices. Why would I wait 2 months for a shein order of crappy plastic clothes when I can find high quality items for essentially the same price in my own country? People just want an excuse to overconsume. There's already so many garments going around, most of them end up in landfill. As a low income person, the biggest struggles are rent, bills and food prices. No poor person actually worries about overconsuming on cheap clothes.

[@StyleWithCami]

As person who lived in China for 8plus years and got involved in clothing manufacturing in South Africa, Shein is the biggest scam. To sell your clothing for so cheap, you must have your costs at an extreme low level meaning underpaying the labour, using the cheapest, toxic fabrics etc. on the other hand consumers are also the ones to blame as we overconsume heavily supporting fast fashion. But shein took fast fashion to the whole new level. I’m proud to say I never bought anything from shein and I realy hope they will get more backlash to improve their ethics.

[@wishqueen1096]

I know one reason why lotss of people buy shein in Australia is because we literally dont have half those clothes here Like we always get the leftover clothes from uk or america which means we never get access to "trendy clothes", so people turn to online shopping to buy their needs And shein has e v e r y t h i n g (Just to clarify ive never bought anything from them but i know people who have)

[@thedevilwearsdata]

That's great insight. I lived in Australia for some time and noticed that there are less options for clothes there than other parts of the world.

[@Consistent30]

Great video. Subscribed, your channel has huge potential. Keep up the good work 👏🏾

[@thedevilwearsdata]

This is so kind, thank you!!

[@Burbosya]

There is no private property in China, all companies are property of the government (even if it doesn't look like it on paper). So it will be funny to see Shein on IPO and it will be more funny if people will start to buy their stocks, which are controlled by the Chinese state

[@thedevilwearsdata]

That's interesting to know about China. The IPO would be in the US, where Shein is currently considered private!

[@Burbosya]

@@thedevilwearsdata Shein can't be private company, because it was founded in China and still operated from China.

[@meaw2m19]

I stared seeing Shein ads on web pages I browsed but have never clicked on them. Why? I was taught so many times not click on suspicious ads.

[@HelloThere12341]

I only get swim wear from Shein and even then I don’t have them as my first option. I’ve gotten clothes from there already and the clothes are basically useless after one to three washes. And damn near everything is see through. I’ve returned to buying more durable clothes from Ralph Lauren, Zara and Express. I purchase clothes more intentionally now for work and social. Shein doesn’t offer quality for that type of consumer.

[@GiggityGoo205]

I ordered a new bed set and a few pairs of jeans from Shein utilizing their valentine's sale. One of the pair of jeans said there was 7 left in my size. After like two weeks of it not even being shipped (promised delivery by the week of Valentines) I contacted their support to find out why and it was because the pair of pants that was low was now supposedly out of stock. They never tried contacting me about it or anything. They said they'd either have to wait for them to restock or cancel that portion of the order so I just told them to cancel the whole thing. They gave me a $1 off coupon as compensation.

[@imaniislander755]

Honestly the only reason I buy from is because I literally can't afford anything, but these people clearly can

[@xellso]

same - i'm a student w no job. if i could i would buy from more ethical sites, but i literally can't. i tried depop but people make clothing so expensive on there now (even shein stuff) i've been buying from them less now though, i haven't bought from them since november and i plan to buy from them for the very last time in june (since i'll be moving to sixth form and want to make sure my style is up to date).

[@xellso]

@@Ash-gx2zz ooh i'll have to give it a go !!! thanks for the recommendation :)

[@elektra_pop]

I live in Indonesia, which means no shein for me. But in our local ecommerce, we were able to purchase cheap, shein like clothes that are shipped right from 🇨🇳, and i think that is concerning too, knowing that everyone buys them… thank you for covering this! Subscribing now 😊

[@thedevilwearsdata]

That's so interesting, thank you for sharing!

[@LmaoMoni]

Kinda irked ppl in the comments are assuming that everyone who shops at shein has an overconsumption people. I escaped an abuse ex with not a lot of clothing, utensils, makeup(don’t judge I need make up for my job and utensils. Shein I’m made a purchase that could’ve been thousands a few hundred. I would’ve loved to stay on my moral high ground but I was desperate. And tbh when you see shein in reviews I only see ppl around my age or younger(22). I don’t think I need to explain the obvious that kids don’t have money. Feel free to insult me but I don’t think shein is the devil, it’s a resource and took like everything else. Are they a fucked up company hell yea. But I’m tired of the poor being blamed for environmental issues like we’re not just trying our best.

[@xylema.]

Exactly. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Although my parents have money, I’m a literal broke 16 year old, full-time student. I don’t like to continuously ask my parents for money to buy clothes, so I purchase what I can afford. It’s as simple as that, really. On another note, I hope you’re doing better my love ♥️ stay strong.

[@lactoseintolerantlol]

not me getting an ad for shein while watching this lol

[@_Sapph_]

Before Shein it was Wish and its moving from Shein to Temu. There's always going to be another one of these shitty companies 😒

[@orionstardust2060]

Love the video but I wish the subscribe and the newsletter was at the beginning or the ends so it doesn't interrupt the flow of it

[@thedevilwearsdata]

This is good feedback, thanks for watching and I'll try to shorten those parts next time for better flow!

[@inmaculadagonzalezgarcia4983]

Almost everything is fast fashion nowadays. Shein, inditex, adidas, nike, lulu lemmon, forever 21, urban outfitters, h&m...there are very few shops that are sustainable, and, unfortunately, even if you find a small brand like that, and even if you have the budget to buy a 50€ t-shirt and 300€ dress (which most people don't) it is very possible that the brand still is fast fashion somehow, it can be the tags, the packaging, how the fabrics are made....it's just silly how everyone has taken it against shein specifically when literally every other brand is quite the same or fast fashion at some level. I personally have lately started making my own clothes bc I enjoy it, it's cheaper, and more sustainable (aaaand the clothes will fit me perfectly) . However, I'll continue buying my underwear and gym clothes and jeans and winter jackets from whatever shop is convenient for me when I need it. I'have had the same bershka winter coat for 5 years, and I only have one. I bought it on sale for 20€, and tbh I take really good care of it and honour it by using it and repairing it if it rips. I think it's more about consuming less and taking better care of the clothes we already have guys. Cause with my salary I'll never afford a 500€ jacket for sure.

[@lalruatpuiikhiangte7030]

I will never buy from this brand again. The quality is cheap and looks cheap.

[@tina_span]

Not my phone giving me a shein ad right before this

[@XxMyvxRocksx382xX]

where are yall shopping for clothes recently, just curious? (NOT thrifting)

[@hawktalon7890]

Discount store chains like Ross Dress For Less.

[@XxMyvxRocksx382xX]

@@hawktalon7890 same i go there all the time but my ross is awful when it comes to clothes

[@Jjangbunbun]

I was also super suspicious of Temu immediately because of its crazy low prices

[@vl0731]

I can only afford Shein and I’m plus size too, so Shein is a lovely website

[@k.k.6480]

Right there isn't alot of clothes for plus size ppl

[@LmaoMoni]

And they have genuinely good fitting plus sized clothes instead of JCPenney’s tarp things

[@vl0731]

@@LmaoMoni exactly!

[@karolinakuc4783]

​@@LmaoMoniHave you tried Bonprix?

[@cmbdiscussions]

oh my goodness i’m so happy i found your content! i also love your channel name lol

[@thedevilwearsdata]

Thank you!

[@sallymoore6920]

If you don’t stop the fast fashion mentality this won’t stop

[@up2date918]

Not me getting a shein ad before this video 😭😭

[@victoriab637]

Their prices are going up, and their low prices are what kept people buying from them in the first place. I see a lot of pieces on Shein that had prices comparable to the likes of H&M or Forever 21. Why would you shop on Shein when you can find similar priced clothes that are better in quality?

[@gumimegpoid9099]

You are right but that's only in USA, here the retail shops sells SheIn quality clothes but even expensive than SheIn, and i find SheIn way expensive now too

[@hannahseling1513]

The absolute irony of me getting an H &M ad on a video about shein

[@mineworkings]

quick question about 4:43. How many clothe manufactured compared to how many hours do the coal plants run? otherwise this comparison seems redundant or am i missing something?

[@cosmicallyconnected]

Playing devil's advocate here, but I can't help but think if their products are so low quality you almost have to keep buying new items. And for people who can't afford a $40 quality top, instead buy an $8 top once every few months. That's of course for people who are buying out of necessity, not compulsion.

[@cosmicallyconnected]

$8 is also being very generous. Lol.