The Devil Wears Prada: Miranda Priestly - A Defense of Perfectionism

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[@jacquesboyadjian2300]

Please do jude law in the young pope next :((((((

[@ugochiokpara1121]

You guys need to do a video on euphoria please 😁

[@citycrusher9308]

@The Take - this video is a joke right? This woman's abuse is being excused and her villainy portrayed as good

[@citycrusher9308]

@BLAIR M Schirmer not a ''bad written'' character. Miranda is written perfectly as a villain.

[@dairithborquez8265]

If I’m not mistaken at the end Nate is dating someone else and Andy is happy for him. She does end up in her dream job. I guess that’s the happy ending.

[@saraho2255]

"Don't raise your voice, improve your argument."- Ruth Bader Ginsburg

[@Novarcharesk]

A shame how so many of her supporters only scream at those they disagree with.

[@pattystomper1]

But if you know your audience, you would realize some people won't respond to a calm voice. You MUST scream to get through to them.

[@gusy629]

Love that!

[@Ttoby89]

@Fuert Neigt lololol

[@CrabTastingMan]

*Did you know in Japan, it's legal for 13 year olds to have sex with adults?* There're even legalized institutions there that hook old fat middle aged married men with young schoolgirls. Hilarious! But what can you expect from a country where women are forced to use a separate pronoun (watashi) from males (boku) to refer to themselves lest they be seen "arrogant," and the word for husband is "Shujin" which literally means "Master," or a place where they recently ruled a few months back raping a drugged up woman does not count as rape because "she did not explicitly say 'no.'" And a drugged up reporter last year iirc get dragged into a motel by their hair by the editor in chief and he gets to walk free despite even the whole ordeal was filmed by a security camera?

[@elizabethzelaya6710]

The scene I always think about in this movie is when Andy gave expensive presents to her friends that she got because of her job and they all loved them BUT a few minutes later when she got a phone call from work they stole her phone and were being rude by not giving it back even though they’re receiving benefits from her working there. That scene always pissed me off because of how selfish her friends were

[@rosiebanks5618]

They were assholes in that scene. Get new friends.

[@hakuponyo1809]

Same!

[@queenning28]

ikr?? They want the perks but then makes fun of her "superficial" and "unimportant" job. The hypocricy. Somehow this reminds me of men (and just people in general) who enjoy porn, pole dancing etc. but also slut-shame women in these occupations. Like, what exactly do you want??

[@theserialbunny424]

Elizabeth Zelaya yeah exactly

[@daisybuchanan8205]

Ikr, that in thar exact scene, I was pissed off.

[@missdarkeyes]

"Florals? For Spring? Groundbreaking..." They could NOT have picked a better actor to play Miranda!

[@preranapradeep3963]

I didn't understand this line. Could you please explain

[@paradisekiss1893]

@@preranapradeep3963 haha me too😂 I can't relate what he talks about 😂

[@preranapradeep3963]

@@paradisekiss1893 I meant, the quote

[@paradisekiss1893]

@@preranapradeep3963 exactly! That's what I'm referring, why?

[@raitorino7520]

Flowery designs during spring is overdone and thus a grave sin for the fashion industry since it isn't anything original or groundbreaking. *flies away*

[@Cloudipy]

Reminds me of when one of my friends entered some very selective medical school and she said "guys i intend to give 1000% to these studies, that means i won't be able to see anyone until next summer except maybe my family on christmas and that's it, i love you all but the competition is so extreme i can't get any distraction" and we were ALL like Guuurl no problem! no worries! let's have one last party at the beach or something and then we'll say bye until next summer! And we did that and we just all focused on our own studies really hard and no one complained like "you weren't there for me/ you don't call as often/you changed" or any of that bs, we just gave each other a call/text on our birthdays and it was enough, no one was mad! And we were all even more happy to see each other again at the end of the year, we're all still friends after years, that's why i was really confused when watching this movie, if this were my friends and i were Andy they would have been like "Girl shut up why are you even apologizing?? Oh wait is that your boss calling?? quick answer your phone!! no wait go to the bathroom it'll be more quiet!!" And after she said she had to leave , they would have been like "Then why are you still here?? *slap butt* run bitch run!! Be careful not to get hit by a car though!" They didn't deserve Andy honestly

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

@@normandy2501 friendship knows no time or physical distance

[@kaashkaash8695]

Putting career... before you relationships? Groundbreaking

[@proggaparomita281]

@@normandy2501 some friendships really withstand absolutely everything. and sometimes, people are confident that their friendships have that strength, so they're okay with doing things like choosing career over relationships, because they know the friendship WILL withstand it.

[@sof3304]

I wish my friends were like that. Like we could all be busy and someones like "y'all are ignorant." not even giving us a chance to explain. I wish it was balance.

[@khatunamezvrishvili6211]

@@sof3304 wtf

[@belencita9526]

"why is no one reeeadyyyyy" lmaoo

[@hellokitty71]

belencita best line uttered !

[@19TAURUSGIRL91]

🏃🏻‍♀️💨

[@Girlhead]

I love that part too.

[@Fenrir2901]

And that's why I hate dubbing, they just missed that detail when they said it in Spanish

[@brandi5126]

I was about to comment that this is one of my favorite lines from the movie.

[@cesarabrahamcastanedavalen3788]

What is worst than having a perfectionist boss is to have mediocre, disorganized and still quite selfish people over you at work.

[@tyrant-den884]

thats why I hate the monitor lizard lady way more than Ton in Aggretsuko

[@mysteriiis]

A wise statement.

[@eloschk]

Both situations are awful. People don't have to be either perfect or mediocre, there is a middle ground for everything in life, specially leadership.

[@raraavis7782]

César Abraham Castañeda Valencia Amen 😄

[@raraavis7782]

César Abraham Castañeda Valencia A demanding boss at least allows for growth - if you’re willing, to put in the work. The kind of boss you’re referring to (which I‘m all too familiar with) just makes everyone miserable without even the boon of success and recognition as a carrot.

[@malihachowdhury7323]

"Please, by all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that thrills me." - A legend

[@brettkimura]

HA-HA

[@dp1451]

My constant go-to line!!!!

[@michaelcranstoun8296]

My favorite line too.

[@MiamiCoffee2023]

OMG! I get this in MIAMI daily, makes me crazy.

[@vladixv]

I didn't understand this. Can you explain please?

[@moggyjohnny3381]

I feel like a lot of people forget one big thing, Miranda loves her daughters. Her main worry in the divorce is how it will affect them over her. The impossible tasks she sets Andy are to please her children, not her. I think that's really sweet.

[@lucykoelle6602]

understandable, though I doubt new special book equals happy child.

[@marcioroberto9820]

Using someone to do your job as a mother? Really sweet.... Point is she knew very well she is an absent mother cause of her work and feel for it but it's all thanks to her job.

[@mysterroniouscherry326]

Miranda may be cold to the rest of the world, but she is still warmth and loving to her family especially her twin daughters.

[@bubbledreams6382]

It’s not really a bar to love your own kids. She can’t even do anything for her own children but is always making someone else do it. She knows her absence from their lives and their lack of a stable father figure hurts them but she continues anyway, because ultimately the job is more important than them.

[@bubbledreams6382]

@@lucykoelle6602bingo.

[@juliansew]

Florals... for spring? Groundbreaking

[@preranapradeep3963]

I didn't understand this. Can you explain please?

[@juliansew]

@@preranapradeep3963 A floral pattern features flowers, which are commonly associated with the spring season. So when she says its "groundbreaking", it's really just a sarcastic reply to something incredibly overdone. Like wow, florals for spring? what an original idea.

[@preranapradeep3963]

@@juliansew thank you!

[@paoloignacio1639]

@@preranapradeep3963 Slow signal?

[@MissMillsonxx]

"By all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that THRILLS me."

[@strydermclean]

The ending with her apologising to her boyfriend pissed me off.

[@jomos5900]

Me too! Leave the whinny mofo behind, girl! Upgrade him!

[@Acidhair]

ugh same! what an I considerate douche

[@AmazingAutist]

No, she was being distant. If the roles were reversed, you'd be saying he is an uncaring douche that doesn't value their relationship 🙄

[@SugarHoneyIceTea90]

He was such a bum

[@AmazingAutist]

@@SugarHoneyIceTea90 you don't know that at all. You don't even know what his job was. This movie was focusing around her life, not his. You can't just assume he's a bum based on the genuine lack of evidence.

[@Starbits7]

Chefs often work evenings & nights & many do prep work early-early in the morning. Nate being upset about her hours didn't make sense unless he said 'with your schedule & mine I barely see you' - but instead he comes across as a selfish brat.

[@lilyangel7611]

This 💯

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

The way he is portrayed in the movie is like a childish brat, which he is.

[@contr4dixion]

Haha... true

[@mssonoma1]

I get him being sad at her missing his birthday party though, but he still should've been more understanding of her new situation.

[@tracys169]

That's why it's so weird, their hours are also whacked. And him being upset over her hours just confuse me. I think he's just one those plot accessory, not very well-thought out character.

[@Kurkuma828]

i'm just gonna say that we need a backstory for Miranda to see how hard she had to work and what she had to give up to become the boss we know.

[@lft3636]

actually, that’ll be interesting.

[@eduardochavacano]

oh please, dont ruin something perfect. who is going to be the young Miranda? What we need a sequel, with a new Assistant! Emily Blunt could either be on the same post or she is the new Editor in Chief.

[@eduardochavacano]

LFT How Emily became Emily would be more interesting... So Miranda dont have to be some young Cruela.

[@Kurkuma828]

@@eduardochavacano oooh a better idea indeed 😊

[@venusinvoyage]

We have some details of her past in the book, being brought up in a poor English home by parents who were dedicated Orthodox Jews. She worked in Paris runway for ten years before becoming editor at American runway, and she’s the youngest out of eleven siblings! Apparently, she had a really strong cockney British accent, too. I would love to see more details of her, so I completely agree.

[@luthientinuviel101]

"Is there some reason my coffee isn't here? Has she died or something?" Always cracks me up

[@chlokepestaffinginc4548]

Amber Tirbhowan me too 😂😂😂

[@hectorvalle1031]

What I say is that if Miranda is in the way to be a coffee drinking habit why doesn't she have a coffee maker at the office with all the power and income she projects. It'd be a shame by the same way to make Andy a waitress at the office if she was already a coffee delivery girl.

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

You have to give Miranda several things, and one of them is her wit.

[@russyp]

I love the outtake where she says “has she gone to Rwanda for the beans?”

[@ebonyplummer4621]

She can always get her own coffee.

[@MEG4nerd]

To be fair I think Cruella De Vil's major sin was wanting to kill puppies.

[@MsBettyRubble]

If she weren't a smoker, it would be her only sin. She was very encouraging of Anita.

[@vulbvibe]

MsBettyR. Which movie are you talking about?

[@maggiemcfly5267]

@@papr1kaboo hahaha

[@maggiemcfly5267]

@@vulbvibe the 101 Dalmatians live action film that came out like 20 years ago

[@annabeinglazy5580]

Cruella De Vil's mistake was openly admitting that. If she had quietly gone to a puppy mill and grabbed a bunch noone would have cared that much. heck, Anita admits that she likes herself some furs... where does she think fur comes from if not from cute animals with nice coats :facepalm:

[@NeoNovastar]

I love this film, i only hate how the selfish friends and boyfriend are played as the good guys. Miranda may not be an objectively good person, but what her pressure brings out of Andy is incredible. I think everyone going into a field they're passionate about has an experience like that, and it's important to: that pressure shapes you into who you want to be. It makes you reassess goals, if the job is truly what you want. It makes you ready for the failures and hits.

[@Rose-cq3bf]

I'm sorry but Andy was pretty neglective of her boyfriend it's not her fault of course that she has to work 24/7 it's Miranda and the fact that pple think it's normal to work that long but it's horrible dating someone that probably forgot you existed no matter what the reason is you can't expect him to shut up and except his unhappy releshinship he has with her

[@mercyfabian4885]

@ferrod liles That's a profound way of thinking about it. I like it.

[@Rose-cq3bf]

@Dark Shadow Storm bruh everyone likes getting presents liking her presents that she herself is offering has nothing to do with her job

[@Rose-cq3bf]

@Dark Shadow Storm but mind you my memory about the movie is pretty foggy so correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember them trying to manipulate her to getting stuff for them she was the one offering to them eather to impress them with matirelistic things at the end of the day they ultimately they don't care about the stuff more than they care about the Andy they know

[@Rose-cq3bf]

@Dark Shadow Storm her whole life was turning into her job don't make it sound like she was spending a reasonable amount of time at her job even she realised this at the end so she left them being happy over presents doesn't equal benefiting from her if they were like that then they would've never criticized her about her job bc she gets them presents

[@sanchaitadas8015]

Yall notice how a woman aiming for perfection in her professional life makes her the devil, the known villain of a story, while if a man does it, he's usually the protaganist of that story.

[@3Katapa]

No? That usually means it's their fatal flaw. Like it was for Miranda here.

[@elvi1796]

Mhm, even the protagonist points it out in the movie

[@L_Martin]

@@3Katapa male ambition is painted as a fatal flaw? 🤔 getting ambitious is usually the “act 3” development for male protagonists as they lock into what they want to do and let nothing stand in their way. Rising up to be no.1 in their field is celebrated for men, and domestic life is most definitely placed lower. Look at any sports movie just for an example.

[@fxjrulpzxi]

But they are usually asshole characters as well.

[@Yeetuspoket]

@@PontschPauPau3451 i was literally thinking about Michael Douglas as Gordon Gekko too haha

[@trinaq]

Meryl Streep was truly the perfect choice to play the boss from hell, although it's established that she can play ANYONE!😄 Plus, the more I watch this movie, the less I sympathize with Andy's friends. They criticize her for dressing nicer, even though she has to make an effort when she's working at a fashion magazine, toss her phone around when her boss is calling, and her boyfriend gets upset when she misses his birthday, even though she had no real control over it. Andy definitely deserved better pals!😤

[@Velocitist]

Trina Q yup

[@Jackylification]

They have a sort of ‘just quit’ idea which made sense when I was a teen but now... I think they were just jealous. I mean, what do they think would happen in any career? Plus it’s New York... she’d have been homeless in weeks

[@amethystjess18]

I always said that I didn't care for them. Especially that scene where they were tossing her phone back and forth. IRL, you would never do something like that to a friend because as an adult, you realize that is your friend's JOB and know that if they got fired, YOU should take care of them because you caused it. Love the movie 😍 but they always irked me a little!

[@cattledogandstaffy]

Plus they were happy to take bags and gifts that Andy got from work, but were completely ungrateful for it!

[@Dunedien]

Yeah pretty much everyone in this movie is a horrible person.

[@bauxness]

By all means move at a glacial pace you know how that thrills me 🙄

[@kinseydesignsbrands]

Haha that's my favorite line and I say it in the car all the time!

[@Goat.Cheese]

That's my favorite line!

[@alicia9748]

california gurls! I love your pfp

[@TheHouseOffice]

I use it all the time

[@ayanomar1408]

I heard this in my head in her voice😩😅😅😅

[@cupofcait]

Her boyfriend is a chef so he should understand high demand jobs. Smh.

[@rathelmmc3194]

Except chefs stop working once the restaurant is closed. Andy worked 24/7 at Miranda’s whim. He didn’t like that, which is a fair critique of her job.

[@martasorangeberry]

Oh come on! The number of times I heard ' if he can't make time for you he doesn't care enough! Dump his ass!" If a guy works too much it's perfectly normal for society and especially women to criticize him about how he is neglecting his relationship, family etc. If a girlfriend is feeling neglected or like she has to fit in HIS schedule then obviously she is wronged. But a guy can't feel like that? It makes him a villain? I don't think so. He dated her before her demanding job- the change alone would be an adjustment, the disappointments and excuses would be an issue and finally her dismissing his feelings all together instead of even trying to be more of an actual partner to him, show he was right to cut her loose. He was not only unhappy with how she dismissed and treated him, but also disliked who she was becoming. He was 100% in the right and it's weird to me people would want him to be in an unhappy relationship with a person that barely remembers he exists just so what? so she wouldn't need to make any kind of effort in her relationship? No.

[@Kai555100]

It's a bit better in the second book were andy dates a guy called max who is very supportive

[@Ontinara]

As someone who works in a high stress restaurant but on the front of house side. Work does not end when we are outside of the job, if anything that’s the only time admin is done.

[@j_usteen]

@Máté Safranka preach it

[@emilyt6116]

Emily Blunt played her role so well. She's an incredible actress, but I really loved her in this.

[@sofia_rms]

The whole cast killed it. I could feel everything they felt

[@claricethefox7922]

She has such an intimidating expression.

[@VideosOfRandomContext]

YES!! “Wish me luck!” “Shan’t 😒” lmaooo I loved her

[@r-t9266]

I don't think that Miranda represents the evil of a career woman. I think that she represents how damaging and dehumanizing some industries can be, at any level.

[@eggsnspam]

I agree. Miranda is patterned for the type of people, men and women, that's on top of their game in their industry. They've all gotten bad press and been "misunderstood" by many... in the end, they just don't care what others think about them.

[@IsomerMashups]

She's not nice, she's not good, she's just right.

[@r-t9266]

@@IsomerMashups Youuuuu're so NICE ! You're not good, you're not bad, you're just NICE ! ;) Jokes appart, Miranda is pretty miserable in the movie. She is going throught a very public divorce.

[@timetraveller4763]

I agree. Though, in order for a mentee to really learn from this kind of boss, she/he should have a high level of Emotional Quotient. Talk about being degraded in every single way. I also had this kind of boss in the past in an industry I hated (but I needed the job). Every single day at work is hell. But at the end of my career in that company, I appreciated the lessons I gained. However, I no longer wanted to work for this kind of boss in the future.

[@timetraveller4763]

I agree. Though, in order for a mentee to really learn from this kind of boss, she/he should have a high level of Emotional Quotient. Talk about being degraded in every single way. I also had this kind of boss in the past in an industry I hated (but I needed the job). Every single day at work is hell. But at the end of my career in that company, I appreciated the lessons I gained. However, I no longer wanted to work for this kind of boss in the future.

[@ClayologyGift]

The Take: Skillshare is... Miranda Priestly: Details of your sponsorship do not interest me...

[@eduardochavacano]

lol, that is hilarious.

[@AA-kr9nr]

Ronny Robertus ouz m GoVOo l O

[@AA-kr9nr]

Ronny Robertusvzl

[@HuiyingKoh]

Gosh I actually read it in her voice! Hahahaha

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

Well, because of the sponsorship you can have access to the content for free.

[@doctorwholover1012]

Everything I've ever tried to explain to people about why I adore this movie

[@MonsieurDecent]

I am actually emotionally moved by this video, which did an excellent analysis of the movie -- which was my work life at one point ...

[@grapefives7762]

Yep

[@qle6]

Charlie yes yes yes

[@pastyourbedtime9445]

It's the only movie I've ever seen that's better than the book it was based on

[@sandydhaliwal6292]

Loved this, but Christine Lagarde is way more than a French lawyer. She's the President of the European Central Bank and was the MD of the International Monetary Fund, literally one of the most powerful women in the world.

[@dowhatyouwill]

Wow, amazing fact. Thanks for that.

[@sinisterkrex6465]

Oh shit. I thought her name was familiar. She helped put Greece into a inescapable debt.

[@adhishreetrivedy6718]

Yeah another neoliberal powerful woman

[@susansaphire5983]

I was wondering why they would base her look off of a 'random lawyer. That makes a TON more sense

[@albustran4855]

In 2005, Christie Lagarde was just a famous lawyer.

[@dadaTunes]

Andy should’ve let her boyfriend go. She’d find another one, probably a better one as she grows as a woman. I think she was too good for him.

[@braddyhyperchavz2335]

In the book, they actually broke up in the ending

[@Gfriend_Buddy99]

@@braddyhyperchavz2335 thanks... She deserves better

[@ileanabriannemari]

@@braddyhyperchavz2335 yeet

[@TrelliessRose]

...Or better still, a more successful one who would understand her struggle and be more than happy to help her succeed _and_ improve.

[@CherishCat]

She should have gotta girlfriend

[@baldarianagrande]

The Devil Wears A Chef's Hat

[@metanoiaaesthetic9682]

snatched wig OMFG YESSSS

[@ellewoods3811]

The devil take freebies from working frnd and then act unsupportive

[@uselessvampire]

The devil acts clingy and possessive and doesn't like that Andy was starting to get passionate for her career and excelling in it

[@horsinaround4404]

Gordon Ramsay? I mean he has Hell's kitchen.

[@BubbyNikko]

Lol I'll never get how is it possible that Nate was a chef and yet had plenty of free time, especially in the nights, like, aren't you supposed to cook dinner in your restaurant?

[@sentient.ball.of.stardust]

I really hate how normalised woking overtime is. How it's expected in order to advance your career, or sometimes to keep it. My own manager told me he expects me to do a lot of more (unpaid) overtime if i expect a positive review from him. I hate this, i hate that society sees it as perfectly normal to be missing from your personal life for 12+hrs per day.

[@kritianant9012]

Looks like we share a manager. The whole city was flooded today and he asked me to explain why I can't come in.

[@niggardkikeinghunter6560]

@@kritianant9012 prolly he has an asshole client too I guess

[@brittasings]

I know the feeling. I think the only way to escape is to be a Miranda no matter what job position you're in. The self respect she saw in Andy, etc

[@jodie3950]

This makes no sense. What is the point of stating working hours if you are expected to not stick to them? You need to review the Labour Law in your country/state and hit them with the facts next time they try to bully you. So long as you clock in on time, you have every right to leave on time. The state should be on your side.

[@eliza.the.earthling]

So true. My first full-time job as a primary school teacher I was working 11 hours at school, followed by work at home and on the weekends. I later quit. Not a sustainable lifestyle at all yet somehow so common.

[@thatsrealroughbud...2394]

The incredible double standard women face is appalling, and I DESPISE the fact that Andy apologized to Nate and got back together with him. Andy's intent wasn't to work there forever, she asked for ONE YEAR. That's it. That's all Nate had to tolerate, and he sulked and guilted her for putting him in a position that women are CONSTANTLY put in and expected, if not demanded to be supportive, encouraging and patient in when, objectively, women have less time to wait during their fertile years. How many guys go off to join the military, and how many girls and women are treated like monsters for not waiting for them when training and initial service often takes YEARS of absenteeism? Basic training takes months, then onto Land/Soldier Qualification, then onto their trades course. None of which they are allowed to live outside of barracks where their families are not permitted. Then, an expected move (which the woman is expected to go along with, education, career or family be damned), only for the guy to be sent off on a tour that's at least 6 months, but can go up to 3 years! Now imagine all that, but many girls/women find themselves baby trapped during that time too! Hard to leave a guy after you had a couple of kids with him before he bothered to tell you he's up and joining the army. If his boss was framed like Miranda, it would be "Oh wow, so organized, so driven", yet this point is MOCKED in the movie when Andy points out the double standard. Miranda isn't a "good person", but who TF cares? Andy wasn't there to work forever, it was ONE year, and she was there to learn from objectively, the best. The skills she taught Andy were not only attention to detail, but something called "implicit tasks/orders". It's obvious to many that if I tell you to make scrambled eggs, I expect that you will not expect me in turn to hold your hand through buying the eggs, using the stove, or getting a pan, through making the eggs, and plating. Andy was shown to absolutely master anticipated direction, and implicit tasks in the "Harry Potter" scene. She not only got the copy, but made one for each kid, had them bound, dropped off to the girls for their train ride etc. all without being told, because she was able to think ahead. Those skills are VITAL in leadership positions. Anyways, long rant short, Nate and Andy's friends were trash. Women are expected to support men during trying periods while building their education and careers, but DWP comes down on a gross double standard.

[@ShootingStarFromDeepSpace]

Underrated comment.

[@Ichigo-dh9rd]

UP!

[@imsickoflifeanditstactics5063]

This. *THIS* comment is everything. And I love the way you described it. Maybe you could consider a journalism career for yourself?:P

[@christopherbrown5409]

Okay... Let me be your supportive house husband who lives with you while you work to pay most of the bills.

[@saludsinfiltros6854]

That's it : think ahead

[@rakotoarisonhenintsoa4278]

I hated Andy's insecure boyfriend

[@illneverbeyourdreamgirl]

I love how all the characters in this story are incredibly flawed. I think the only exception might be Nigel who ends up - rather unexpectedly - as the proverbial sacrificial lamb. Even though he starts out a tad unlikable your heart breaks for him in the end. I don't think I've seen a story like his ever since and I think that it's an important lesson we can all learn: no matter how much you fight the good fight you could very well still end up the loser. Oh and yeah, the bf is annoying as all hell! Same goes for the unnecessarily mean friends.

[@haja_luc1525]

@@illneverbeyourdreamgirl I totally agree. I feel like Emily is a better friend.

[@valentinomiller6251]

I think her personal life bogs down the film. I skip through it.

[@illneverbeyourdreamgirl]

@@valentinomiller6251 Exactly! Working in the magazine is so frantically glamorous that when she's back with them it's like oh yeah, she's an American who hangs out with regular people who lead boring lifes...

[@veronicab15]

Was he wrong though? you cant have a relationship without investing time in it. When one parter changes so much of their values it feels like you are not in relationship with the same person anymore and she did end up sleeping with someone else. So...it makes one think whether all this hatred towards Andy's boyfriend isnt also societal pressure into the new feminist views.

[@Jjrmtv]

side note: fell in love with Emily Blunt

[@wordforger]

...How did I never notice that was Emily Blunt under all that makeup?!

[@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi]

She is absolutely brilliant and hilarious in the film. I don't think Anne Hathaway would shine if not for Emily's mannerisms. I adore adore adore her in this movie.

[@Lafemmefutile]

She was gimmicky and funny in this one, but I only started liking her when she was in The Edge Of Tomorrow with Tom “Scientology” Cruise. She was great in that.

[@Ryan-pg1tw]

@@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi Maybe you should express your opinion more respectful

[@shreya446]

us all, my friend.

[@drfunnybones8239]

Me watching this movie as a kid: the boyfriend is so cute though Me watching this movie now: gross, leave, out of here

[@Oshin_Life]

same

[@temin2776]

Book was better

[@milenasarkowicz3080]

God, same

[@temin2776]

@@milenasarkowicz3080 Were you reading the book?

[@zah936]

same here

[@dianabanana08]

*i PRAY i never end up with a group of friends and a boyfriend/partner/husband like that*

[@ptboy18]

Then don't. There are WAAAAAY too many people in this world to surround yourself with trash. Know your worth.

[@玖-d3n]

same nate and the friends are disgusting i’d ditch them if i were in andy’s place

[@SeattlePioneer]

Don't worry. If you display a hypermasculine personality like that, few men will be interested in you, and they will dump you before long. Just as is illustrated in the movie with repeated divorces. Women can make men of themselves, but those same women don't want feminine men, and masculine men wont have them for long. Of course you can have a fuck with a man when you like, but be prepared to die alone.

[@shreyofsunshine]

My favorite moment is when that one lady changes her shoes from some ugly ass sneakers to these really nice heels before Miranda shows up. edit: okay they were clogs, not sneakers. i stand corrected

[@trinaq]

Mine too, it may have been a brief shot, but it already told us SO much about the intimidating, formidable Ms. Priestly just seconds before she made her first appearance!👠

[@tyrant-den884]

it also sums up several paragraphs of information in the book in two seconds.

[@overthecounterbeanie]

Technically, they were mules not sneakers!

[@HelgaCavoli]

For me it's the call Andy makes to Emily* to pass on the clothes, with their conversation in two levels. Sweet and cool. *Thanks, Brookie. 😂

[@jlortizdk]

They were NOT sneakers!

[@petarirkic]

"Details of your incompetence do not interest me." The end.

[@lotrfan8]

But it wasn't because of Emily's incompetence, it was because the stylist (?) was sick. Should the stylist have known she would be sick ahead of time? Should she have risked her health to meet Miranda's demands? I don't care who you are or how hard you've worked to get to where you are, entitlement to Miranda's scale is not acceptable

[@conatcha]

@@lotrfan8 Exactly.

[@aelius9907]

@@lotrfan8 i agree she should be a bit nicer

[@candelariagarlot8666]

@@aelius9907 is not even about being nice, but at least the bare minimum of human decency and respect

[@aelius9907]

@@candelariagarlot8666 :(

[@tseamus8288]

"Meryl Streep can play batman, and that's a perfect choice." - Cam Tucker, Modern Family.

[@MrSexydivas]

@bertasu me too

[@kawaiipanda8892]

I totally would watch it

[@MaryJosephrobi]

i agree

[@eduardochavacano]

great quote. Modern Family has really great script.

[@domicioannioulpiano6845]

Ok, too much internet for today

[@sebastianboeddinghaus3505]

The panic before Miranda arrives at work is literally my dad arriving home

[@mariamkarjiker301]

It is so sad the way some parents terrorise their families with their rage. It is typical of an individual who is a narcissist.

[@sleepx3651]

@@mariamkarjiker301 Exactly. This your dad…not some random stranger invading your home. This is all backwards culture

[@ClariceH]

I can relate --my siblings and I would anticipate an uneventful, restricted weekend because our dad came home.That's part of the reason why the ccl of this video (excellent people don't have to be nice) feels at best ambiguous, at worst not a really healthy takeaway. I don't really understand why we would need to look up to narcissists, male or female...

[@amisha25211]

@@mariamkarjiker301 so true

[@BillyBob-oi9kl]

@@ClariceH I 100% identify with this. However, there's a huge difference between this being your home life, and then going to work at a job with world class standards. One is imposed on you without your consent and one is sought after.

[@healingypsy]

The devil wears a sulk when his girlfriend is succeeding in her career

[@akirachinatsuken]

@ThePabloSylar why? If Andy wants to put her carrier above her friends and family that's her choice. Sounds rough but have you ever seen a movie, where the head manager of a huge cooperation was shamed for not being home enough and not caring about his family enough? No, he's a tough man and he wants to climb the career ladder. But when Andy does it she's selfish. And made fun of, cause the field she's in is feminine and not publicly accepted to be real work. And her friends and family in their narrow mindset do not even consider to support something that is obviously Andy's dream. They shame her for perusing her career. They ARE wrong. And shitty people they are too.

[@JadeCaro]

@@akirachinatsuken ikr! and when the boyfriend criticized her for dressing fashionably. Like, dude, that's part of her job! I remember being so pissed when I saw that part of the movie

[@akirachinatsuken]

@@JadeCaro yes!

[@lochofmceo]

But he was right and andy quits ar the end

[@akirachinatsuken]

@@lochofmceo just because she quit doesn't mean he was right? Like???

[@noface3928]

What made me angry about the movie/novel was that Nate and Andy’s friends were so quick to drop her. She deserved a lot more support and acknowledgment than they had offered. I’m glad Miranda made Andy realize that she didn’t need to settle for just the “Okay,” or she would’ve never seen her full potential.

[@Dina8485]

I never understood her ending up with Nate when the other guy was so clearly understanding of her job and still interested in her. I felt even then that she should've cut ties with Nate.

[@tillyboos]

Adina McCray Christian lies to Andy though, and is duplicitous and manipulative; even if he was willing to help open doors for Andy as a writer. Nate at least treated her well, and was a more genuine boyfriend to her.

[@CJ-im2uu]

Adina McCray Christian reminds me a guy who would treat Andy as a trophy, pretty, arm candy.

[@glendagonzalez9038]

In what Christian lie to Andy?nothing

[@josephquesnel1737]

She didn't end up with the other guy was he was willing to betray Miranda near the end. She felt he had bad morals and was ruthless.

[@tinyfreckle]

For a second I thought you were talking about Andy's incredibly gay friend XD

[@alexmeiai774]

Miranda is also a self oriented perfectionist. The reason that she has such high standards is because she has higher standards for herself. People forget that she was born into poverty and crawled her way to the top by working her ass off. She worked so hard to become EIC and she didn't have her job handed to her (like Andy). People often make the assumption that bosses like Miranda didn't work hard to get where they are. I can only imagine the amount of stress Miranda is under, and based on her childhood, there is no room for failure. The pressure she puts on herself reflects onto her staff. Miranda is not the bad guy.

[@vincentcerasoli5969]

I agree that Miranda is not the bad guy, but what do you mean by "people forget she was born into poverty and crawled her way to the top?" Who in the audience is forgetting? The movie never said any of that about Miranda's backstory. Please explain where your information comes from. We don't know if she grew up poor, she could have been born rich and went to ivy league college or inherited the company from someone else. What if the job was handed to her? Not saying it was, but my point is you can infer a hypothesis or extrapolate ideas, but you can't just make stuff up as if it were part of the actual story. Clearly, Miranda has spent decades building up this magazine to be successful and she has the unenviable task of doing three jobs in one. She has to be a business manager, killing autumn jackets wasting hundreds of thousands in order save millions of dollars in advertising revenue. She also has to be fashion forward, predicting the future without ripping off other ideas they've already done (ie "we did that two years ago"), and she has to be the final arbiter of taste. Anyone can throw together pieces of fabric and call it "fashion" or "art." And along comes this young millennial know it all, who can't even be bothered to do basic research on the company she's interviewing for, and pushes back against everyone who tries to help her, while acknowledging she is totally unqualified for the job. I would never hire someone who didn't want to be there, on the hopes that maybe someday they would change their attitude. When all is said and done, she flat out abandons her job and doesn't even put in two weeks notice, yet somehow gets a glowing recommendation. How long will it be at her new journalism job until she walks out of that one too? Like you said, Miranda is not the bad guy. Maybe, just maybe, Andy is the real antogonist here.

[@ridaashraf4919]

@@vincentcerasoli5969 Miranda had a rags to riches story, it was in the book. Looks like you are the one who didn't research.

[@vincentcerasoli5969]

@@ridaashraf4919 First piece of advice, trolling will get you nowhere if you wish to be taken seriously. Second, I highly recommend you watch the above video if you haven't already. Miranda's backstory is never motioned in the film. This video is about the film not the book. There is no such thing as a film that is a carbon copy of a book. Finally, go back and read the comments again. I'm AGREEING with this person, Miranda is not the bad guy. Andy is the antagonist. The point is NOT how many people in the audience read the book (most people don't), but rather how much our perspectives evolve over the course of our lifetimes as we change and mature. THAT's what makes this a genius film, NOT the source material in the book. In undergrad, I never questioned the idea that Miranda was the antagonist and Andy was the protagonist. Most people that age feel the same. But once you get out in the real world and work in a job for a decade or two, you go back and realize it was actually Miranda who is the hero here. A truly great film will help you evolve and grow as a person because you can find new meanings in the message, and sometimes reinterpret it as you get older and more mature. That's what you would understand if you thought about it with more nuance and depth instead of unsuccessfully attempting to troll me or own me. In other words, try to keep up next time.

[@msk-qp6fn]

It was never mentioned in the movie that she came from poverty. Maybe it was from the books but not in the movie and it is not fair to assume someone does or someone should when the video itself is based on the movie miranda.

[@chilathecreativefox9098]

​@@vincentcerasoli5969 But Andy seems nice.

[@abela1228]

I would have liked it if you had mentioned that the perfectionism at work is to fulfill the expectation of being accepted and respected at work because miranda works "like a man" but she is criticized by the media and her husband for not fulfilling her role as a housewife, a mother, and a spouse. She is being called to by society and her family to be even more perfect just as she does with those who work with her. Basically, the exaggerated version of the unreasonable expectations put upon women everywhere

[@fuyoutube5708]

abela1228 Omg please like it, you are so import to all of us, I'm begin you

[@mophead_xu]

@Agatha jay agreed. it's hard to find the balance especially if yer ambitious about yer career, but unless ye cant balance it then perhaps it's better to not dip into that pond in the first place.

[@Lafemmefutile]

Agatha jay Yet this kids go cry at their therapists when their dad wasn’t there. We are talking how women are PUBLICLY roasted when they do not strive to have it all. Look at the stupid questions women get “how do you manage work life balance?” Yet men never get asked those silly questions, there is an assumption that someone else dies child rearing for them. We have to look at things realistically how they happen, not how we think they should.

[@AverageWagie]

Some women choose to focus on their careers over starting a family, that's fine. But you can't have your cake and eat it too. Don't have children if you're not going to be there for them. It makes no sense why Miranda had kids in the first place when she doesn't seem to give two shits about them. I don't buy that her husband pressured her into having children, she looks like the type to get rid of a partner the moment he starts demanding things from her she doesn't agree with. She could have made it very clear to him from the beginning that she never wanted children, and some childless marriages work perfectly well when both partners are on that same mindset. But it's like she decided to have children like "oh, whatever, I'll just hire a nanny" and now her daughters are going to suffer an unhappy childhood and growup with a bunch of issues.

[@Lea-ep1bi]

The ghost of John Wick's puppy The problem here is that you can say as often as you want that you don't want children, but people still tell you that you will change your mind and if you are too old to have children you will be pitied even though you might be happy. I don't want children of my own, because I like to work and learn new things and I have a severe phobia of doctors that is the result of a childhood trauma. I want to adopt a child though. Even if I explain this to people, I still get the same answer or just silence. (Important stuff is over, I just rant here.) Furthermore it's not only my job to care for a child my partner is going to have the same responsibilities as I do. It comes down to how we BOTH balance out our work and our private life. If you are in a long lasting relationship, you will have to make sacrifices and that might also consist of talking to each other about their job and if they should take that opportunity or if they are happy in their current position.

[@WhelmedButReady]

I really enjoyed The Devil Wears Prada. But I have always been disappointed with it's ending, as it took a less sophisticated approach to human development than what I thought the movie was going for. Throughout the movie you see Andy and her friends speak down of those who work in the fashion industry. Until she finally gains a new perspective of their lives and realizes that everyone has their different interest and values that differ from other's. Yet by the end she almost entirely rejects that which she learned as if what she and her friends thought in the beginning were right all along. I thought Entourage Dude's beef was incredibly unfair, he wasn't happy with her change as a person. Bottom line, people grow and evolve like different things and he should've championed that shift in Andy rather than shame her as well. The end just felt too black and white like a kid's movie about different cliques. I don't mind the fact she left, but that she started looking down on the culture of the fashion industry again.

[@queenning28]

There are a lot of problems in the fashion industry that are more exacerbated than some other industries. But the fact that she now works in the (infamous) journalist industry... I mean, she is just not in a position to look down on fashion. That's my issue with it.

[@seatheparade]

Hm I think she didn't look down on the fashion industry, but on the way she was working there to please Miranda and now she's career orientated for herself. I do agree that Nate (entourage guy) had a *lot* of flawed points he said to Andy, but I don't think she meant that he was right about those aspects. Especially since the way she prepared for the end interview was much different to the beginning of the movie

[@raspyswirly]

I didn't think she was looking down on it--she just didn't want the life Miranda had. Emily pointed it out to her in the hospital that Andy didn't care, which was true. Andy only saw it as a stepping stone to doing greater things she wanted, and Miranda had to admire that about her, even if she also knew that fashion wasn't what Andy was gunning for. That's what changed in the end, when Miranda was talking to her about people wanting their lives. Andy realized she just didn't agree, and realized she was already there all along, just because she wanted to get ahead.

[@BigWorldx]

i don't think she looks down at the fashion industry by the end of it, but has understood its good and bad, which is also reflected in her style at the interview at the end of the movie - still stylish in a miranda sense, but also somehow more "her own" and a little more basic than what she wore while she was working for miranda.

[@kristoferwilson6593]

i dont think it was them saying they we're right all along but realizing that yes fashion us hard, but she NEVER planned to stay in fashion

[@xtxpxhx]

Also Miranda redeemed herself when she gave Andy a positive reference for her new job. I mean she left her at the busiest week of her industry without notice or any backup. She truly considered her an equal.

[@jannraymondruedas3474]

I don't know if this redeems Miranda because Andy worked hard for it anyway. She just handed the recommendation out. Doesn't excuse any of her abusive behaviors.

[@Jordan-xg4pn]

@@jannraymondruedas3474 im confused, didn't she tell him that andy was her worst assistent of all time? she was a petty bitch

[@jannraymondruedas3474]

@@Jordan-xg4pn It was followed up with "and if you don't hire her, you're an idiot."

[@Tonshmar]

jordan gucci That’s not what he said, he said “Biggest DISAPPOINTMENT.” Play of words that are very important considering. 🤷‍♀️😌

[@marlenebean]

@@Jordan-xg4pn I think what she meant by "she was the biggest disappointment" is that she was disappointed that she lost her in the end bc she quit.

[@thatonedog819]

You know, I never got the whole betrayal of Emily thing. Miranda basically said she'd be fired if Andy didn't go. Miranda is the boss and of she doesn't want to take Emily, she isn't going to. So how was Emily betrayed?

[@galmanferguson]

Exactly. Emily was just being salty cuz Andy has proved she's a lot better.

[@jennv2948]

I think Miranda’s point was that Andy put her own career above Emily’s dreams, who at that point, Andy viewed as a friend. Miranda did the same thing and put her career above Nigel’s dreams. Andy felt that Miranda should have stepped down rather than betray Nigel, but she didn’t step down rather than betray Emily.

[@rashigupta4864]

I think its a fair comparison between the choices made by Andy and Miranda. Both of their careers' were on the line and they betrayed their colleague/friend by crushing their dreams to save it. Its a test of loyalty to the other person, they both failed by being selfish and did what they had to do to save themselves.

[@rasheedabasheer4046]

I still love how after all that Andy made a move to make things right with Emily. That scene where she sends her clothes to Emily is so cute. Their dynamic made me smile every time.

[@christianealshut1123]

Well, it was Miranda's decision all right - so strictly speaking she should have called both girls to her office and communicated that decision to them. What she chose to do instead was to tell Andy that SHE was to tell Emily about that decision. In this way, she makes Andy to be the agent of Emily's demotion rather than herself - on the morning after the charity event, she throws her coat and bag on Emily's table instead of Andy's which suggests she considers Andy to be first assistant now. She has probably noticed on that evening that something like a friendship was developing between Andy and Emily and she wanted to crush that - she wanted to teach Andy that in order to get on in this world, you sometimes also need to trample on other people, notwithstanding they are your friends.

[@saraheerie]

When Miranda called Andy while Andy was not at work, demanding Andy work, that's when I realized she wasn't a character I wanted to aspire to be like. That's a big pet peeve with me. When I'm not at work, I'm not "on the clock", I do not owe my boss anything. People have lives beyond work. Too many times we forget this and portray people in media as "hustlers" for doing the job even when it completely interrupts our lives.

[@kathlyncontreras6565]

I agree with you. I rather be labeled as an unprofessional than sacrificing my physical and mental health for a work that can easily replace me when I die.

[@veralenora7368]

Yet everyone expects teachers to spend time after / before school grading papers, planning lessons, creating materials, calling parents to be friendly and "in touch:". I was a school librarian and as it's a little hard to take the library home, i typically spent 2 -4 hours after school still in the library. One benefit: I got to know the custodians really well and admired them! Retired school librarian

[@yachishairclips2250]

That actually depends on your profession.. You are lucky when no one is calling you when you are out of your work... Take medical professionals.. Especially doctors.. There are some doctors who are disturbed when out of rotation and clinics.. And need to be in hospital because of an emergency.

[@weliveinasociety4629]

@@yachishairclips2250 Exactly. I'm going into Psychology and its very likely in that career to get called outside of work from patients or other medical matters.

[@iwanttobeasailor]

Yes, if you're not willing / able to work outside of ypour regular working hours, don't pick a career that might require you to do it, simple as that. For some people who are passionate about their career, it's not just about "owing something to your boss", but about owing yourself. Or as discussed in previous comments, other people who actually depend on your help.

[@npiontek]

Have you ever tried working for a person like that? It is absolutely nervwrecking and anxiety-inducing. Being controlling and cruel does not make you excellent. (Yes, my boss is like that and am trying to get away from it.)

[@jade5615]

Nadine Piontek I used to be an assistant for a high level investments manager at a global firm, and as soon as I met her, I couldn’t believe the similarities between her and Miranda, right down to their style, voice, mannerisms, facial expressions, behaviour and treatment. All of the women in the work place looked up to her and worshipped her despite being treated poorly, and I swear to you, she hated men. She was treated equally and fairly in the office by her male counterparts, if anything, they were intimidated by her as she really was the embodiment of the ‘dragon lady’ without ever raising her voice. Those 2 years I spent as her assistant was 2 of the most stressful, unhappy years of my life. I was returning home in tears every night, my mental health declined and anxiety increased greatly, my hair started falling out and I was suffering from extreme burn out something massive. Her expectations were impossible to live up to and the way she treated others was despicable. And for what? Because she’s smart and successful? I don’t believe that’s a good enough excuse to behave that way. I love the Devil Wears Pravda as it’s so relatable for me and a really entertaining film with fabulous acting, but experiencing this in real life makes me believe that Miranda is no role model for women at all.

[@celanba]

I have worked in an environment like that, too, as a waitress in a restaurant. It wrecks your mental health.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

@@jade5615 I agree, and i will add: it does not matter the sex or gender of the abuser, but this video say: this is the difference.

[@reinebautistamercado4286]

I doubt you were working for a Miranda. The point of the video is: Miranda is an exemplary role model in her field from whom people can learn many things. If your boss was toxic, but not excellent, then she's not a Miranda. If she was, indeed, a paragon of excellence and you couldn't handle her, then you're just incompetent and the one who was toxic in your working environment as what incompetent people usually are.

[@katn5400]

@@reinebautistamercado4286 this is a hideous take omg

[@itzelgc4637]

I always disliked Nate.

[@trinaq]

Me too, he doesn't support Andy, whines that she's changing, and that he "misses the old Andy", and gets stroppy when she has to work late, and misses his birthday, even though she couldn't find anyone else to cover for her at the last moment.

[@Lafemmefutile]

He was below her on every level. They were going to divorce at some point, good thing they broke up.

[@aishalee5924]

Me too! If it was HIS career as a chef at a 5 star michilin restaurant he would be going up and beyond and expect Andy to lovingly support his goals but if she has the same work pace? Then she’s a saleout for some mind boggling reason 😤

[@itzelgc4637]

@@aishalee5924 thank you!!! I've been saying it for years.

[@PabloEmanuel96]

Except he's super hot

[@RSMJ]

While I agree with several parts of this video, I assume it's mostly work obsessed Americans who think a boss like her is a good boss. Where I live, it's illegal to get an email or call from work outside of working hours. She also body shames in several occasions and has absolutely no concern for people's feelings or personal circumstances. Demanding good performance is not equal to belittling people. There are better ways.

[@chitrag3114]

Ya i understand..this kind of work environment is not okay for a long term..but for a year it's good i feel cause it's gona bring out the best in you.. edit: and yes bodyshaming is not acceptable at any cost..

[@VideosOfRandomContext]

EXACTLY!! A boss like that should never be tolerated. It’s not good for your mental health. Idk why people are glorifying her character :/

[@kattodoggo3868]

@@VideosOfRandomContext right. Even ify ou are an assistant, getting phone call outside your working hours unless its stated in the contract are a no-no. In our office when its 4pm thats it. Everybody leaves work behind. Lets assume she is on the call assistant, its fine because she gets paid for it but the streesful enviroment is very bad for people. she could theach her everything she did without this cold attitude. and lets be honest. She was often very rude.

[@blobyeol27i72]

@@VideosOfRandomContext no one is glorifying her. Yes she exploits her assistants and belittles people BUT we're saying she's not all devil. All characters in this movie are more or less grey, that's what makes it interesting.

[@inkubator320]

True !

[@charisleighmusic]

“By all means, move at a glacial pace you know how that thrills me.” Always a great line.

[@LaneMaxfield]

One thing bothers me about every defense of Miranda - the "it would be okay if she was a man" should make us analyze what we let MEN get away with, not just blanket excuse her behavior. We should work hard and hold ourselves to high standards, but it's toxic to force people to neglect their personal lives. A good boss, male or female, knows when to say, "hey, you need to go home and get some rest." I love that your video acknowledges this! I think if we really want to create a world where women aren't pressured to "have it all" in that unrealistic sense, we need to make work/life balance acceptable across the board. More women could rise to the top if more men were given lengthy paternity leave, or if it was socially acceptable to take a couple years off to be a stay-at-home dad... I'm in serious danger of soapboxing for pages and pages so I'd better cut myself off here.

[@henrycolestage4249]

Exactly. I'm retired military. One of my best commanding officers was a guy who would walk around (LBWA - leadership by walking around) about 5pm. If there was anybody still there he would ask why? In the military there is a perfectionist culture too and the norm is you are in before the commander and out after. This guy though, if found you at your desk he would tell you to go home. If you couldn't get your job done by 5pm you weren't doing it right. And god help the officer that kept his troops around until after the CO left just to impress him. THAT's leadership! I gladly followed where he led us even though it was extremely dangerous.

[@LaneMaxfield]

@@henrycolestage4249 That guy sounds awesome! I love stories like that. I'm now thinking of my favorite boss (a woman in a special needs program). She was incredibly detail oriented and put together the most demanding plans I've ever seen, but she got results. She was also collaborative. Team meetings were long but everybody got their say and everybody felt appreciated for whatever they brought to the table. Plus, you could talk to her about anything. I cried when I left that job.

[@MsSphinx91]

I had a part time job in grad school (nothing fancy, just an old theater), where my boss was the kindest, most down to earth lady ever. Her attitude made me want to show up and do a good job. She would occasionally buy us lunch and would defend us if customers got out of line. If an employee were unprofessional, she would talk to them very bluntly about their performance and their standing. Overall, she was fair-minded. I respect that type of person way more than showy perfectionists, who think their positions gives them license to berate others.

[@emilykraken2804]

@@MsSphinx91 I like hearing stories like this because it makes me think of the kind of boss I want to be one day

[@irondragonmaiden]

Yep, the day that "right to work" laws (or anything similar) are a thing of history and the PAID working hours are the only ones anyone is ever allowed to work on will be a day worth celebrating. As is, too many employees abuse of the mentality of "if I don't work unpaid overtime, I might get laid off!"

[@lizhenry5783]

Miranda isn't the devil here. It's Nate and Andy's friends.

[@Pinkranger87]

Oh yeah

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

Agreed!

[@birbwho]

nah abusive bosses aren't really all that funny, she's funny cause she's not insulting you 24/7 but rather a doormat called andy

[@Oscar-hs6nl]

@@birbwho Did you even watch the video?

[@fwuuton]

One of her friends is actually supportive. That one enthusiastic chubby guy hypes her up more than Nate and gallery girl

[@DodaGarcia]

That part where you ladies point out how the whole "work a year for Miranda and you can work anywhere" might really have less to do with Miranda's brand value than it does with how competent you're forced to become when you work for her was mindblowing to me. I had never caught onto that.

[@KorbyPonyo]

Miranda can only be a perfectionist in her work since her life outside of it is in chaos. My favorite video of all time

[@Lafemmefutile]

Angelika Torres Isn’t it the other way around? Her outside life is chaos because she’s a professional perfectionist. I think she cared more about her kids than her husband who was also an egomaniac.

[@lhallnance]

Yeah I agree that Nate was really the villain in that movie lol

[@katherinemorelle7115]

And the rest of her “friends”. Tossing around her phone when the boss is calling? No actual friend would endanger their friends job and livelihood like that.

[@lmaf132]

@-- U sound mad

[@datuangela]

@-- The Take has video essay on Cinderella. Maybe you should give that a watch

[@fuyoutube5708]

-- As a woman that have to minimize another woman to fell superior, you will have to learn way more about empathy and true self-esteem before became a winner.

[@daynabailen4331]

GalloY Nate doesn’t fight for their relationship though. He never tries to understand where she is coming from or compromise on anything.

[@ibrahimabarry4937]

No, no.....that wasn’t a question.

[@itzelgc4637]

That's all.

[@Lafemmefutile]

I don’t even know why Andi thought it was a good idea to reply to this 😂. She really was a job searching noob.

[@debblouin]

If Andy had been as assertive with Nate as she was with Miranda, she might have set a more revolutionary standard.

[@chamab.6800]

One small thing that I think folks missed or at least I’ve never heard anyone talk about is her style change by the end. We see how Andy has changed when it came to her personal style. The fact that she maintains a look after she left Runway is telling. As much as we want to say that how you style yourself doesn’t matter...it does. “End of the movie Andy” was wearing a leather coat, basic turtleneck, stylish jeans and accessories. She also maintained her haircut. “Beginning of the movie Andy” was sloppy and thought that to look put together was pretentious. She was just as judgmental as the girls in that office. She may have left Miranda but what she learned as far as style and work ethic will stay with her.

[@lovelyeyessee]

I thought she went back to her formal style. She gave all her fancy clothes to Emily, in the end

[@chamab.6800]

lovelyeyessee she gave Emily her couture stuff that she got from Paris, yes. But what she was wearing at the end when she saw Miranda outside and waved. That’s what I’m talking about. Its Andy but a more pulled together Andy. An Andy who cares what she looks like and how she presents.

[@glendagonzalez9038]

She wasn't dress properly for the interview with Miranda,or any other job interview.

[@бронза.вафля.конус]

@@lovelyeyessee no, she went back to her former clothes. Her STYLE changed. Style is how to wear clothes, not the price of the clothes

[@lindseybailes2706]

Miranda Priestly made me want to rock that haircut, but I knew it would never look like hers.

[@shineeis5657]

Straight hair that short is a lot of maintenance anyway.

[@lindseybailes2706]

@@shineeis5657 I have to be honest w skill level here too. But yeah you're definitely right. Although my hair is so straight naturally

[@EmmyV2002]

Her haircut is ugly for my taste anyway. I'd rather take an emo/scenelike haircut over an old butchy one any day.

[@Passions5555]

She has what has been defamed in internet culture as a "Karen haircut."

[@GullibleTarget]

@@shineeis5657 maintenance Miranda can afford. She just makes it part of her job to find the time to tweak her hair. Anna Wintour gets up at 5:30 to work out and then goes to work. Where does she find the time; she makes time and goes to bed early

[@ciciheart6085]

I wish they would make more movies like this these days.

[@GirlWithThePlumbobTattoo]

YES! The good old days of creativity.

[@valentinamarquez6305]

“Florals for spring, ground breaking” I had a flashback to my first year studying design

[@srami004]

"Nope. That's all." Iconic words.

[@haitamkataka531]

pls make a separate video about how Andy's boyfriend was trash and blamed her for just wanting a successful career

[@hyacinthannah]

and her friends!!! like you’re okay with her job/success when you can reap the benefits of it (i.e. the purse) but not when they have requirements/obligations

[@aishalee5924]

THIS ☝🏽

[@jenniferhiemstra5228]

That’s not what the issue was at all. Nate’s claim was that she became the very kind of person she said would have claimed to hate. “You used to make fun of the Runway girls, now you’ve become one of them” Andy almost had none of her true self left. Success is fine, but don’t sacrifice oneself.

[@cassy7203]

@@jenniferhiemstra5228 Ehhh I don't agree. Whilst of course I see where your take comes from, I saw it as; yes- she made fun of them, before she realised how hard they worked and the tenacity it takes to be able to work for runway. She actually grew to realise that fashion is a serious field in both art and commerce esp. in the scene with her friends when she was showing them different articles by a fashion journalist so it's evident that she still had her passion for writing. She was still herself but was being challenged in a field outside of her preconceived identity which I think is an opportunity everyone should take if given the chance. Nate was fixed, while Any was growing.

[@jenniferhiemstra5228]

Cassy I also see YOUR point, and you’ll never hear me say hard work is a problem. However, Andy saw that they were working themselves to death to meet impossible, tyrannical demands. That’s the rub and where she made fun of them. She did grow through the experience by realizing she threw a lot of herself away for the job. And one will notice she upped her fashion game at the end, but did it in her own way and didn’t go completely overboard by being someone she isn’t. And in the end Miranda was creating a toxic environment that would have eaten everyone who worked there alive. One can’t deny this. Minus Nigel somehow...but even Emily who seemingly cares to the nth degree was being chewed up and spat out and had to convince even herself that she loved her job. That kind of stress will create literal health problems IRL.

[@MariahiDontCarey]

I hated nick so much, like she’s trying to get ahead in life and you’re trying to hold her back? Really?!

[@IceQueen975]

A relationship is a partnership. Not a dance for one. He has a right to be upset. By that token, though, so does Andrea. Both also have the right to split if they are unhappy. Neither is the villain.

[@BabsChannel]

@Agatha jay If you truly believe that, you don't know very much about the reality of relationships or work. If people like Walt Disney didn't have the mutual understanding with their family that work was just as important, then there would be no Disney.

[@BabsChannel]

@Agatha jay You're a liberal, aren't you?

[@mtv565]

Andy will get ahead in life working for Miranda BUT lose herself!!

[@cris_here]

Ivan Espinoza you mean Nate?

[@akom3640]

Andy won't be able to "have it all" with Nate anyway. The moment she starts to excel at her new job, he'll get attention-deprived again and will try to guilt her into choosing an unsupportive partner instead of her dreams, again. Hopefully this time she'll understand that the true problem is not her job, but her boyfriend and will break up with him.

[@cyan7181]

I read above that she broke up with her boyfriend at the end of the book. I'm sticking with that in my mind. Movie director(s) probably wanted to give people who liked andy+nate an "happy ending" of some sort as to not leave them disappointed.

[@SeattlePioneer]

[@nelsonth]

Talking about perfectionism, here's an inspirational story: A man says to his boss one day, "Wow, boss, is that a Lamborghini I saw you drive in?" The boss says, "Yes, and if you continue to work hard, put in your all and strive for excellence, I will be able to get another next year."

[@reng935]

Haha so true

[@elleofhearts8471]

That has nothing to do with perfectionism. But it has everything to do with how capitolism gets confused with meritocracy.

[@TrelliessRose]

@@elleofhearts8471 Yeah, what?

[@xinthebox]

Lmao didn't expect that 😅

[@xinthebox]

@@elleofhearts8471. English please

[@bedroombunny9529]

"They are vilified for not fitting the role of the self-sacrificing domestic woman." Or the fact that they are extremely cruel. I like Miranda as much as the next person but people need to stop pretending that they want to work for her because 'they liked the movie'. You only liked the movie because you weren't in the main characters shoes, if Miranda was your boss you'd call her a sadist too.

[@trendingnews9003]

Bedroon Bunny Too bad for your logic here, there are a lot Mirandas in this world and YES there are a lot willing work under those Mirandas. I knew a professor who is exactly like Miranda. You know what? My gay coursemate wanted to work under her as her student assistant. Why? Because he thinks that working for that professor is a privilege. So yeah, many people like Miranda in this movie and many people are willing to work under a "Miranda". Just because you won't like working for a "Miranda" doesn't mean others will have the same idea.

[@bedroombunny9529]

@@trendingnews9003 If you're willing to let yourself get treated this terribly by your boss, you have some serious issues that you need to work through. She threatens to FIRE the main character if she doesn't get her an unpublished manuscript of a long running series. If you did get fired because of this you would have the easiest unfair dismissal case in the history of the courts.

[@MiamiPush2theLimit]

Bedroom Bunny most Americans are masochists. The sadists rule the world.

[@angrybuddha7613]

Bedroom Bunny i once heard read on a running shirt that when a gazelle wakes up it knows it needs to run faster than the fastest lion or it will be eaten. there was more to it and certain concepts of the shirt were a little ridiculous but it paints a realistic picture of a truth we all know: human beings, animals, the survivors, are survivors because they’ve learned how to outperform their peers. how the survivors learn this is often a trial by fire. being kicked down so hard you are forced to learn how to walk again but this time better. it’s being at our weakest when we scream the loudest, kick the hardest and through that, discover our voice, our strength, our worth. and that’s the benefit of working for a miranda. it’s not that people have issues or enjoy being abused. it’s that they’re interested in outperforming their peers, in not limping along but joining the race and WINNING the race. we’d take years to reach that on our own, a miranda teaches us how to run faster, better and stronger in less time. there’s nothing wrong with that and the fact you feel the need to shame that drive is sad

[@bedroombunny9529]

@@angrybuddha7613 Human beings are more intelligent than wild creatures, we have evolved further than they have, we live in societies to avoid the wild. But I will be sure to remember your beliefs when it is you who needs a helping hand and do as you say and spit in your face because you should just fight harder.

[@stopstalkingmegoogl]

of COURSE this would drop right at the start of Virgo season. we see you.

[@FabalociousDee]

Yep! ♍💯

[@bloodtypena]

I live with Virgos, they can be a bit nuts about details

[@savannah983]

Fun fact: Miranda is a Scorpio

[@NicLolTorres]

@@savannah983 That's where the tyrant comes from ...

[@sersastark]

Lolz yep!

[@gitahastarika7080]

I was both Andy and Miranda, and then I got major depression. I have liberated myself from that perfect images and am feeling significantly happier now. But still, those days taught me a lot about life and about myself. And I am grateful for it.

[@Kayizcray]

I'm cryin thank y'all for being so thorough in every deep dive you do of these "chick flick" movies that everyone puts down for being about women. The multifaceted character development that so many people overlook in female characters but that you always cover in extremely thoughtful essays is absolutely wonderful. I love TDVP desperately and I was very excited to see your Take on it :')

[@bennyton2560]

Spoiler alert: hate on "chick flicks" is just misogyny, a distaste for things tagged "feminine"

[@jacobgraham8363]

I think Miranda’s greatest weakness is that by adopting these traits that are usually masculine in the workplace or the fact she is forced to act like a man to survive in a male dominated business setting she has also adopted a lot of those toxic traits of those types of leadership

[@tyrant-den884]

the interesting thing is that, at least for movies versions of business, she conducts things in very feminine way. She doesn't yell, she strikes with careful barbs. She doesn't punch anyone. She doesn't even outright threaten her boss to keep her, she "explains what would happen if she was fired". She doesn't even sexually harass anyone.

[@Lafemmefutile]

She was better than any male leader. I didn’t see any toxic stuff in her. She was playing the game very well and she’s winning. She just cannot escape the duties of motherhood and marriage (even men are marginally spared by this).

[@91838072]

“Male dominated”? Most of the people there are women, her rival is a woman and most men there are homosexuals.

[@rishaa682]

this is a good point ....

[@FanyLI]

@@91838072 "Male dominated" as in the business world in general, not the fashion industry.

[@notsogrump625]

I'm so glad you mentioned that about the boyfriend, I never liked the fact that she had to give it all up to be with him but he gets to keep his life the way he wants it

[@idkjustwatching8117]

did i cry when miranda seemed to be proud of andy? well, yes

[@eyreyereye]

ngl i'm p sure cruella de ville is villified for wanting to murder puppies, not cus she's a working woman miranda priestly is an icon tho

[@MyPopcornfreak]

Reye yeah but what is the reason that they chose that type of woman to be the villain?

[@91838072]

Libbi Rose Jaffar is a hardworking wizard.

[@FireofGia111]

They could've easily made Cruella a stay-at-home mom with an affinity for fur coats

[@edwintovar1505]

@@FireofGia111 maybe but many people relate bosses with large amount of money and buy fur is expensive

[@FireofGia111]

@@edwintovar1505 while that is true, she could very well have a wealthy husband. The point is that 101 Dalmatians pits Anita and Cruella against each other- they're foils- and by having Cruella be the villain, it sends a message about working, ambitious women

[@robertashafer8945]

Ande's transformation is a consequence of her own resourcefulness and Nigel's clear analysis, persuasion and generosity - not Miranda's hyper-critical demanding behaviors.. I think this video tries to put forward as virtues, obvious flaws in Miranda's character.

[@MCheesesushi]

Roberta Shafer yes! He is the mentor who slapped sense into her and supported her with a firm hand to reach her best self

[@ejgonzal13]

Ommgggg yesss. I think Nigel is the true hero here!

[@celanba]

Exactly.

[@HDloly]

That is so necessary to be noticed.

[@ellep.6204]

I see your point, but I think it goes both ways. Andy needed both of them to succeed. Each of them was one half of the "High expectations, high support" model often used in education to help students grow, and in Andy's case, it worked! This video just focuses more on Miranda because Nigel was always obviously one of the good guys haha.

[@bellanerd9057]

Andy lost self-respect every time Miranda called her 'Emily' and she responded. That's why I don't think Nate was completely wrong in being disappointed in Andy. Instead of changing herself for a guy (such as any traditional romance movie you might watch), she was changing herself for a job that was only a stepping stone. I guess there were two transformations that happened in Andy over this whole ordeal. She lost self-respect, but she also learned how awesome she can be when she applies herself and goes above and beyond for what she wants, ergo, she quits. Nick was right to remind her that she isn't Miranda's dog, but he should've been more supportive and understanding about why she was doing what she was doing and Andy didn't need to apologize for her actions because she never did anything wrong.

[@nikolinapopovic5864]

Totally agree with you, Miranda was bad for Andy's mental health as much as Andy's friends and boyfriend were, but were also helpful/right to some extent.

[@sofia_rms]

Agreed

[@hofhofandaway]

And yet what made Andy happy was her job. Watch the film again-everyone working there was scared and tired, but Andy was actually happy and succeeding. In that time of her life, it was actually her career that was bringing her life and joy!

[@sv-uz8ow]

Thank you whoever hates Nate doesn't have a sound understanding of relationships sorry not sorry.🤷🏾‍♀️

[@hofhofandaway]

@@sv-uz8ow Maybe you don’t have a sound understanding of how careers work.

[@Hifirrrr]

"Even if we don't achieve perfection, we just might arrive at greatness."

[@Dimetropteryx]

Greatness doing something trivial for most of the very limited time we have here on Earth.

[@miipmiipmiip]

More like burn out.

[@beansNcables]

I’ve always said Nate was the worst person in this story!

[@eduardochavacano]

no, there is that black girl, who like designer bags but calls Andy a scheming slut for enjoying a glass of champagne and flirting.

[@triumphantsound]

omg, that "don't touch it" at 3:00 -- i always wondered if that was an improv, it's *mwah* perfect.

[@bennyton2560]

Interesting enough, the ad I got between this is Anna Wintour's master class on leadership style, in which she is good at bringing a team together instead of herself doing all the work. This shows that in reality, Miranda's toxic workplace behaviors would not take her very far. Even if she was a man, putting your staff down and not being loyal are neither applaudable or effective

[@elenanojkovic2554]

Just thinking about working for a boss like her makes me anxious. And just saying that "some people just don't cut it" doesn't make it right. Ok sure, there are jobs in which you need presence of mind and such. But this is not a case of a doctor expecting an intern not to puke during surgery. This is someone expecting their workers to cator to their every need. And even in my example, if said doctor downright BULLIED said intern for puking-it would not be right. Maybe they're not right for the job but there is no need to ruin their self esteem over it. It can ruin their mental health. It doesn't make those people weak or broken or whatever someone will tell you. It makes them human.

[@TrelliessRose]

You saw that, too? 🤩

[@diannaparis]

Meryl Streep's evergreen beauty literally amazes me

[@merylstreeplover49]

I may be heavily biased bc I love her so much, but she’s literally the most beautiful woman in the world

[@FabalociousDee]

I liked this video. It explored both the pros and cons of Miranda's attitude. Tough love is great when it comes to making sure things are taken care of, but cruelty and a lack of proper communication can slow things down. And it's true - nobody can have it all in a world that demands you pick a side. Not even men, let alone women.

[@belib5911]

At the end of the movie, I thought that Andy and her ex-boyfriend were just going to be friends since he was moving away and she was staying in the city. Also, this movie bears only a slight resemblance to the original text. In the movie, Andy becomes a competent assistant and reliable employee; while in the book, Andrea never ever becomes competent at her job. The book is mostly a compendium of Andrea's complaints but never any job growth. Great movie form a less-than-good book.

[@91clarie]

unlikable, but undeniably a hard-working feminist icon

[@Lafemmefutile]

91clarie Being likable is overrated. If you are not efficient, it won’t matter.

[@BetzyArosemena]

@@Lafemmefutile depends on where you live or who do you work with/for I guess. I was fired by my unqualified boss for (and I quote) taking my job too seriously. Meanwhile a guy who was sexist and unprofessional but more likeable is still working there.

[@Lafemmefutile]

Betzy Arosemena I think the caveat should be that only when you get at the top can you then apply these leadership principles. When you are in the pit with others, you have to be a team player otherwise you get ejected really fast. You have to read your company and identify where you can add your extra 20% and not try to be 200% when most other employees are at 80%. You have to understand your company culture. Usually it’s because people take themselves too seriously that they get ejected, not because they take their job too seriously.

[@catonfire5010]

Unlikeable? Like, in-verse?

[@queenning28]

I like her. She reminds me of Tywin Lannister from GoT. Powerful, principled, demanding and cruel. I'll probably only admire and fear from afar if I ever encounter this type of ruthless leaders in real life. But they are very charismatic in their own unapologetic way.

[@LakeNarrow]

You can demand a lot from your employees - in a positive, supportive way. I would not work for a person like Miranda, because I would not feel like I'm getting the support I need to do my best. In reality, supportive, co-operative work environments produce the best results for any business. Competitive, hierarchical work environments have the opposite effect: they produce nothing but yes-men who either damage other people's work performance or hide important information from their colleagues that would help to achieve a goal - all to the detriment of the business they work for. I do agree that, in our society, men get away with toxic behavior that women are chastised for.

[@jcp7647]

Miranda wouldn't hire you anyway, so the joke is on you.

[@asalwaysashntir]

What I realized about Miranda is that she supportive, she is just incredibly subtle about it.

[@m.falcon6412]

And vice versa. For each sex society has certain demands and allowances. They are just, mostly, different for each, doesn't mean the other has none.

[@rimadaschakraborty8411]

As a company head let me tell you something. Sometimes compromise and being nice can lead to heavy depts and at last only attacks the leader. Sometimes being nice doesn't get you far cause people find a leeway to be lazy and not present their best. So, sometimes acting tough is the only way to get the damn work done in the BEST WAY POSSIBLE!

[@lucykoelle6602]

@@rimadaschakraborty8411 I would think people who choose to be lazy could be not/hire fired quickly so managers can devote time to dedicated employees.

[@eringassner5663]

One thing I've never understood about this movie (and it's one of my favorites) is why does she constantly have people going out to buy her coffee? Wouldn't it make more sense to have a Starbucks inside the Runway headquarters so she doesn't have to wait as long for her coffee? T

[@MsSphinx91]

That would be real leadership. Finding a simple, long term solution to an obvious problem.

[@doloreslehmann8628]

@@MsSphinx91 You're right, but on the other hand, why does she even need this much coffee? Because she's exhausted by her lifestyle and sacrificing her health for her job. That's not a good example to follow or to be proud of.

[@GullibleTarget]

The magazine is part of a bigger whole:Elias&Clark. The building his owned by them and they own the magazines. Miranda is 'just' one of many editors. The building has its own cafeteria. Now why would Elias and Clark invest in their own cafeteria, to maximize productivity(staff doesnt need to leave the office to get lunch) and then invite the biggest franchise of cafeterias in the world because one editor likes Starbucks? If staff wants to get Starbucks; they can go out and get it or let an assistant do it.

[@lovelyeyessee]

L😂L

[@dantracy621]

Why Starbucks?

[@tirsden]

This deconstruction was hitting some great points until the end... and then asks why do excellent people NEED to be nice? So, if you're really, really good at something, you have the right to be utter shit to everyone around you? Wow. Just... wow.

[@olgachafeeva7615]

You have the power to be, certainly.

[@thatsrealroughbud...2394]

Except you're omitting the fact that the majority of the video points out that it's a double standard on the basis of sex. Male characters literally worse than Miranda are acclaimed, real life men like Miranda exist and are praised. The demand of "being nice" for someone highly competent and leading in a field are only really placed on women. That's the entire take away. It would be nice if people in these positions were nice, but at the end of the day, do you need/want the person performing heart surgery on your loved one to be "nice", and tolerant of mistakes and low on foresight with the OR nurses, PAs, respiratory therapists etc. that they work with, or do you want them to be like Miranda and run "a tight ship", literally a naval saying for a strict Captain that demands perfection?

[@lillysnet9345]

Inspiration coming in many forms...🤫

[@queenning28]

To be honest, no one NEEDS to be nice. It's preferable that all people are nice. It's a nice thing to be nice. It's certainly undesirable and sometimes unethical to be "not nice" especially if that behaviour causes a lot of unjustified harm. Miranda is a very impolite and demanding boss. Her rudeness is undesirable but not serious enough to make her a villain or "bad person" in my opinion. More importantly, she (and bosses like her in real life - most of them are men who are often normalised and even romanticised for having Miranda's bossy personality - a huge double standard) wouldn't really have the power to treat her employees like slave labour and threaten to fire them when they disobey, if the US has stronger laws and unions to protect the workers' basic rights and punish toxic exploitative employers. Without changing the laws and hence leveling the playing field between all employers (so none of them can act like slave owners), those nice bosses within extremely competitive fields such as fashion would suffer major disadvantages, because they choose not to exploit their employees as intensely as those insanely demanding bosses. In fact I doubt Miranda could rise to her position in such a toxic industry without being so toxic herself. The nice version of Miranda would be likely to fall and fail before she had the chance to reach the top and become a boss in the first place. So I guess she just threw away much of her humanity in exchange for her career advancement and success. That's a bad thing to do. But then again, not everyone values being sociable and respectful more than their ambition and goals. There's no point telling those people "you are so insufferable! you need be nice!" because they just don't care that much about the moral judgment - especially from people who are less successful than them. Public shaming is not very effective in stopping the rich and powerful from being insensitive and cruel. The more meaningful question to me, from a sociological/political POV, is how to create a much healthier and humane work environment in which the competition is sufficiently regulated so that extremely ambitious people (and there are a loooooooot of them out there) are able to pursue their careers without either reluctantly or habitually or even enthusiastically being evil to their powerless and unprotected employees.

[@thatbooknerdoverthere7899]

@@thatsrealroughbud...2394 So women are allowed to be rude because men do too? Let's all become "like men" then? Thanks but that's not the brand of feminism I like...

[@MissElisabelle]

When you realize Emily Blunt is Emily. Gosh, I did not recognize her.

[@eduardochavacano]

if she was black and fat, they would have given her an OSCAR for best supporting actress. Emily Blunt really deserved an Oscar for this character. I want an EMILY movie.

[@TQM]

@@eduardochavacano That is just not true. Additionally, if Emily were black and overweight, she wouldn't have been cast in the movie in the first place. Please reconsider your understanding of social minorities

[@pagusmusic6254]

She’s iconic, I used to be so obsessed with her but I can see now that perfectionism is toxic and she might be amazing at her job but she’s a tyrant and a bad leader.

[@marine463]

Totally. She is a terrible manager and leader. She may be good at fashion but that's it.

[@madanmohan1024]

@@marine463 Thank you and thanks to PaGus Music as well. Good to see not everyone has drunk the koolaid. When I worked at an automobile company, the scale of which is far more complex than that of a fashion magazine and where the margins are wafer thin, I did not see CEOs operate in the MP way. They were more like orchestra conductors, choosing the best products (compositions), the best talent (highly trained musicians) and then guiding rather than ordering them to success. MP is super talented about fashion but a poor people manager. That does not take away from the success of the real person on whom MP is based but it is horrible to use that success to whitewash the bad aspects of her management style or even elevate it as 'perfectionism'. I have just finished the book and it reads very differently from the movie. I cannot help but wonder that with Streep possibly being a friend of AW as well as Hollywood in general fawning over her, they decided to rewrite it both as a favour to Vogue and to cover their own toxic 'geniuses', the sordid details of some of whom like the man Streep called The Punisher have now started to pour out.

[@mysterroniouscherry326]

Yes she can still be competent and perfectionistic in her work, at the same time work on cultivating more empathy. She doesn't have to be nice of course, just be good in some of her moral decisions, ie. Emily and Nigel. The last thing we want is a nice Miranda, no God please no hahaha.

[@curlychapina]

Being a perfectionist doesn’t mean working 16-18 hours a day, a boss asking that of a employee is inhumane. Also it doesn’t mean being unreasonable as to not understanding what a freaking storm/hurricane does.

[@Gothiqueluv]

I use to work 16-18 hours a day all the time. It's necessary when you are on a tight timeline sometimes. Depending on the job, that's what's expected. Suck it up or get out.

[@curlychapina]

@@Gothiqueluv What kind of answer is "suck it up or get out"? That would totally erase sympathy from people who are being mistreated. "Oh, your boss makes you work overtime and not pay you? suck it up or get out. Oh, you are doing cheap labour in a sweat shop? suck it up or get out." I am very glad you work a million hours and love it, its amazing that you are "sucking it up". Most humans don't want to live their life "sucking it up", and they should not have to.

[@netball4eva101]

I always thought that in a way Andy was the villain of the movie, especially when you consider that Miranda never actually wears Prada in the movie, but Andy does.

[@abigail_yang]

Randomperson Miranda was carrying a Prada purse in her first scene in the film. Besides, the film doesn’t have to have a villain.

[@olivercuenca4109]

12:15 Well I mean I'd say kidnapping a bunch of pets and trying to peel their skin off to wear it is probably a bit beyond simply being "outside the social norm".

[@larryjones4314]

I think an interesting male equivalent can been drawn in J.K Simmons' performance in Whiplash. At the heart of his tyrannical tendencies and vitriolic method of getting things done is an innate desire for perfection in the music of his band. In the same way Miranda displays pride with Andy, so too does Fletcher with Andrew Neiman in the final performance of the film.

[@ruzzelladrian907]

Miranda knows who she is and what she stands for, that's why even though she was abusive to Andrea, she was very consistent in her values for what her work stood for. That's why I love her. She was keeping it real. I would love to have a colleague like Emily. She embodies professionalism in the workplace, even though she didn't like Andrea, she taught her everything and there wasn't any lying or some sort of backstabbing when it was about work, no sucking up or being a tattletale.

[@strawberry6532]

i mean cruella was demonize for skinning puppies but great video!

[@J2thePower0f3]

Katlyn Downing 😂😂😂😂👌🏻

[@Arineedstostop]

now, whenever i think of giving up with my job I'll think about Miranda Priestly. She's just that inspirational

[@Respectable_Username]

This annoys me because perfectionism is actually one of those traits that hold women back in the workplace. On average, a woman won't apply for a job until they have 100% of the required skills whereas a man will apply with only half the skills listed. On average, women will spend extra time perfecting their work when a mad will get "good enough" and move on to the next thing. On average, highly skilled and successful women will stress about not being good enough whereas a mediocre man will saunter past with complete confidence in themselves. These are of course generalisations and people do fall on the opposite sides, but society has conditioned us women to try _too_ hard sometimes, where we hamstring ourselves because we think we're not good enough. Imposter syndrome runs rampant amongst successful professional women. We need to be teaching kids that actually, perfectionism isn't a good thing, and while high standards are good, they have to be reasonable and realistic. TL;DR: Us women have been trained by society to give too much credit to others' opinions of ourselves, resulting in the stress of overly high standards and limiting risk taking opportunities cos we think we're not good enough. Perfectionism stands in the way of a truly happy and successful life. We need to stop praising perfectionist women, because it's giving girls standards that are not only higher than men's but also near impossible to achieve.

[@arlet101]

All you said is right except for one thing. It was not conditend on us by society. Its programmed in our genes. You can thank evolution for that. Women and men have different brains, hormones, overall biology, different needs and "roles" that affected us through the many hundred of thousands of years. Society was built around them. Sometimes very wrongly strict, as people don't fit like a cookie cutter to the same ideal cultural (i may dare to say religion) have over the sexes. But, nevertheless, because of different programming it so happened that women are more careful, need to feel more secure, tend to take less risks. while men are generally the opposite. This is something we see ALL OVER the world. From china to south america this programming generally is the same. I recommend you read 'sex matters' by Mona Charen for more sources and backed up data. Its not culture. Its science. But anyway, my point is first to correct you, and second that if we want more women in business we need to change the model of modern business to fit WITH women. Not the other way around. Modern businesses today are thriving with womens creativity and compassion where the focus is more on identifying what the customers really need. I actually read that Victoria secret is having a downfall because people don't relate to them anymore. And then we see many small business (led by women) creating products that are comfortable and actually relatable to the average woman and not the "barbie idol". That's just one example.

[@Hearthburn1]

I've always loved the line of "Start your day with the confidence of a mediocre white man."

[@geetee2392]

Society, society, society. Take responsibility for your many flaws.

[@Thundernymph]

everything you said is gold. perfectionism is NOT a good quality. prevents people from taking risks and really succeeding. women do need more confidence when it comes to going for higher level positions.

[@ravenn2631]

High standards, if anything, worsens creativity. I’ve read a lot of productivity books like “Essentialism”, and from what I know, creativity is best found when relaxed. (Looking up a list of creativity techniques online can help.) Sure, having high standards allow you to do a lot of hard work, but it doesn’t allow you to really do anything original. Overly strict work environments encourage yes men who are not willing to challenge the leader or offer any ideas to move forward. It’s more important to do smart work than hard work. There were a list of statistics analyzing different millionaires in the “Millionaire Mind,” and what they found what separates those who could earn a lot over time with those who don’t isn’t just hard work, but the strategy and creativity of how they allow their business as possible. Even if they’re extremely rich, they find as many ways to allow for cheaper options as possible, and new ideas to increase the quality and not just quantity of work. This is why people who work hard don’t always receive any rewards no matter how hard things get. It’s because even if it’s hard work, nothing allows for them to stand out in the market. A lot of other people can do the hard work of doing something old and traditional, but to be able to do something different entirely and to take that risk is what gets you up. My guess that’s why Miranda chose Andy over Emily as her assistant. After all, the greatest enemy of creativity is perfectionism. If you’re perfectionistic and afraid of failure, you would not have any guts to try anything original, refreshing and risky.

[@businessxx7632]

My goal in life is to be perfect without taking anyone down.

[@reallife231a]

Me too. You just talk to them privately.

[@jclima79]

I'm sorry to be the one to say that to you, but it's impossible.

[@cherrybun_chu]

@@jclima79 One can always try.

[@anate8791]

So fetch

[@vlra2021]

José Filho lol its not , you can be straightforward without being mean

[@kevin_andrews735]

Miranda was the bad guy because she treated her workers terribly causing a toxic workplace, but everyone in the industry knows about it so it's "okay". Emily got hit by a car because of her being overworked, often on frivolous things that don't involve the actual magazine where she supposedly works. I can't recall if it was an intern position or not, but if it was, it'd be an illegal intern position since she's running personal errands instead of learning workplace skills. If Miranda was a man, I'd also think he was a bad person. In reality, being overworked doesn't allow someone to perform at their best. The plot is fictitious idealism. It's good to push oneself, but there is a limit and to expect it continuously is evil. Andrea only survived because she didn't take Miranda's spiteful criticisms to heart, and because she's new. If she was there long enough no matter how thick her skin was it would eventually erode in some way. Then she would be just like Emily. How is that positive? How does insulting your staff get a pass? Even if Miranda changes to positive feedback when she believes Andrea does a good job, does it justify that spiteful behaviour? If this was reality, Andrea would work herself until she also got hurt, get fired, lose her insurance, and wind up in a worse place than when she started. It is no right to glorify these people like the Wolf of Wall Street or Miranda with narcissistic personality disorder because it's a fun take. That's how you get corrupt leaders. The terrible boss that treats you like garbage but is only pushes you for your own good is capitalistic propaganda that should have died back in the 80's. Self-gratifying, contemptuous behaviour shouldn't be justified because of elitism.

[@eloschk]

Perfect!!!! That's the comment I was looking for! 👏👏

[@jenniferhiemstra5228]

YEP. THIS RIGHT HERE. I do love the movie, it’s a modern classic, but I will not defend toxic workplaces.

[@joanareis6248]

This!!!! 👏👏👏👏

[@Birdfreak2010]

I’ve worked for people like Miranda, and you are spot on.

[@BabsChannel]

The work place is where they weed out the weak. So far I see 6 weak employees.

[@naungthaw]

I still hate Andy’s boyfriend.

[@jshell0771]

For valuing their relationship and having self-respect? Lol

[@karlareyes1671]

@@jshell0771 for dismiss the work of her girlfriend when he knows that can be CRUCIAL in her career and also being happy whit her makeover but complain saying that she had change (something that had to happen with life)

[@jshell0771]

@@karlareyes1671 when that work basically took ALL of her time and made her LITERALLY obsessed with it he had the full right to complain about it and her absence in their relationship at all. And secondly those "changes" were Andy becoming a person she have despised previously, it was more like a shadow of Miranda, not true Andy, which we see at the end of the movie - more confident, but with her own mind and values in life. How the hell can you call such transformation something that had to happen?

[@Neha-ue3uk]

@@jshell0771 but if andy did not take the job, she would not have even gotten that job at the end where miranda wrote the reference letter for. she would not have that many job opportunities opened up to her if she didn't work for miranda. it was crucial to her career and the boyfriend should've grown up and been more supportive of her career. she was supportive of his career as a chef? he even got a promotion at the end. he has andy and the job he wants in the end. also the job didn't even take all her time? she still had time to go to dinner with them, give them presents, cake and go to her friend's art museum or something. her friends and boyfriend were selfish as hell and expected too much from her. it was too much pressure for her and they should've been way more mature than they were in the film.

[@jshell0771]

@@Neha-ue3uk it's not that she shouldn't have got the job, what bothers me is that you all are justifying miranda and demonizing her boyfriend. He was supportive of her at the beginning, but after she didn't show up at his birthday because of another Miranda's task after hours he didn't even make a scene, just was disappointed. The theme of the movie is choosing between work and private life, and i have no idea why you all are acting like you'd also support your bf/gf, if she didn't even have time for you. Her bf got the job, but you could see that he wasn't so overloaded with work and still had a decent amount of time for his gf. Sure Andy still managed to see her friends sometimes etc., but you could see that the more miranda relied on her, the less time she had for herself and the more she changed like a person into the image she despised previously, that's what made her reject miranda at the end. And such working hours is the reason why Miranda's marriage fell apart in the middle of the movie, it showed us that you can't dedicate most of your time to your job and hope that your relationship would still work. Her friends and boyfriend didn't put pressure on her, it was Miranda doing it all along because of her work ethic. And I don't blame her for it, i'm just irritated of everyone in the comments not seeing the point of the movie at all.