Shia vs Sunni on Imamah in Quran (MUST WATCH!)

One of the main differences, if not the main difference, between Sunni and Shia schools is imamah. This is an attempt to debate the proof of imamah in the one text that both Sunnis and Shias agree on - the Quran.
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[@ghozmit1]

I use to be Shia, Alhamdulillah it has been 5 years that I reverted to Quran and Sunnah upon Manhaj of the Salaf.

[@shahid8545]

This Ummah needs more brothers like him. Study your deen brothers. STUDY YOUR RELIGION!! May Allah expand brother Hijab in knowledge and sabr and he guide those open hearts to truth Ameen

[@fahmuu_x]

It's good you apologised at the start of the video Mohammed. Alhamdulilah keep up the good work Insha'Allah.

[@user-ut1hl6ib3b]

loved this debate... so respectful mashaAllah! Allahummah Salli ala Mohamad Wa ale Mohammad

[@jessejames9441]

I genuinely tried to listen and concentrate more on what the Shia brother was saying in order to gain an understanding. I am not convinced in the slightest. It seems so here and there, pick this from here and put it there. Seems quite mess. I know Allah is testing us but He has made the truth clear otherwise that would be really unfair. May Allah protect us and guide all Muslims.

[@hms4115]

Good for you, for apologising. Difference or no difference, manners are a representation of your deen.

[@eiciuwnuibwbwicbwc]

Mashallah brother Mohammed Hijab. You are a very knowledgable person and a good debater. I was brought up in a Shia family but I knew instictively that what did was wrong. There was no evidence for it in Quran. Wallahi the closer you get to quran the farther you move away from shiaism. as selamu aleykum

[@GringoleboZebulon]

I remember watching the person sitting next to Adnan with the Thawb was a Shia himself then he became a Sunni Mashallah. I see him on the speaker's corner as well.

[@gazirehman9421]

The Shia guy doesn't want to talk about the explicit evidence for Imamah, because there is none. :)

[@yasbae4165]

Oh Allah guide who wants to be guided

[@Hammama]

I was born to a Shia family and have accepted Islam according to the understanding of the Salaf when I was 6 years old walillah alhamd. wAllah it never made sense to me their beliefs even at that young of an age!

[@TastyCookie.]

Mohammad Jihab Brother, May Allah Bless and preserve and reward you amen. I used to be a shia and i came to true Islam after i completed my pilgrimage (hajj) and umrah. From then on my life changed imand i found true islam. Ahle sunnah wal jammah. Immamah is a false made up concept by jewish rafidas however those who 12 individuals are infact pious honourable noble and well moralled servants of allah and family of the prophet saw. They are ahlubayt yes but not infallible etc.

[@sheib9749]

so respectful and humble from both sides , may Allah guide our shia brother

[@ibnishakhafiz]

This discussion needs to be like 10 hours. I really appreciate the friendly manner. Hope to see more 😊

[@mazraja]

I think that last Shia questioner really was clutching at straws to make a point but was just digging a deeper hole. Nice discussion overall, gentleman-like etiquette on both sides Alhamdulilah

[@ahmedw5]

Subhan Allah Walhamdulilah. Truly Allah has made the truth clear. When i listen to christians go in explaining their beliefs and when i listen to shias explain their beliefs it's so similar. Im not talking about their belief systems in comparison per se, but the way they come to conclusions. They delve deep into implicit stuff while ignoring explicit clear verses. Alhamdulilah i thank Allah for having revealed the 7th verse of Surah 3. That verse makes it clear who is a deviant and who is not. Those that follow the explicit teachings of Allah are the ones on truth. Shias follow and rely on implicit against explicit, thus making them deviants. Easy, i thank Allah for teaching me something so simple from Ayah 7 in surah aali imran.

[@Hamzino7]

Mashallah Mohammed Hijab, really have a lot of respect for you and what you are doing to resolve the issue between Sunni and Shia. May Allah grant you Jannah inshallah.

[@shal43]

Muhammad Hijab the LEGEND 🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@EyeIn_The_Sky]

Why should the Shia avoid trying to prove his imama from the Quran when given a prime opportunity to do so...

[@adelbelaifa5492]

Instead of answering the questions, he always says we leave that in another discussion!

[@hummyhumacide3688]

Every time he gets trapped in a corner he says I dis not come here to discuss this and that! What??? This is a debate, u look crazy when u try to stipulate anythin.

[@MrHsmile]

Alhumdulillah , makes me very proud that discussions like this happen and I learned a lot .Jazaakala

[@ismaieladen4814]

MashAllah!! Brother Mohamed back again with another Victory No Doubt :) "And say, "Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart." (17:81) Allahu Akbar Wa Lillahil Hamd.

[@Drillakilla80]

Mashallah brother Muhammad, may Allah keep increasing you, so much more respect after you started with apology. An most of all, this was one of the most educational videos.

[@yusradufani3457]

الله يكثر من امثالك ...رسالتك نبيله وهدفك عظيم ...حفظك الله ورعاك وسدد خطاك وزادك علما ونورا في درب القرآن الكريم

[@NajashiProductions]

the shia brother was very respectful and didn't seek to change discussion like the one before, plus the fact that he doesn't have a position for everything yet shows he's open minded and thinks... insha Allah he got Sunni potential

[@MultiKiller2005]

I wanna thank both parties for arranging this platform to have a peaceful debate unlike the majority of the people who pick up weapons kill each other. jezakellah.may allah guide the entire humanity to the right path.

[@leeebaps793]

The Shia guy wants to preach and only say what he prepared. He can't answer any questions without saying they are irrelevant. Thank you to the shia for convincing me that the shia are in fact on the wrong path. Alhamdullilah for Islam!

[@mohamedhussein2799]

Brother Muhammad came with his papers as usual and smashed it

[@HalleyCookie]

Look up (الشيخ ‏ خالد الوصابي ) he's a Yemeni sheik that has really dedicated his career to exposing the true face of shiaism. 👍🏻

[@smooth2477]

Masha Allah mohamed. I like the way you presented your view clear cut. I also like the video setup compared to last one

[@MrPumkinDude]

Good debate instead of people coming in and trying to fight

[@Ayod2k7]

salam from the states to you bro mohammed! keep up the good work!

[@TheAhmadafghan]

Great discussion. Truth always dominates.

[@gilabola4642]

shia guy said im here to talk about imamah, but i wont discuss who those are. Its like he lost before he starts 😂

[@machalattes]

I love and appreciate how he apologised for supposedly coming off as an aggressive debater, though I've seen and judged for myself that that's not the case. He was just simply passionate in upholding the Truth, but some misunderstood it as an act of aggression. Humbleness goes a long way, and shows the excellence in one's mannerism. May Allah bless you and your family in mutitudes ya Akhi. Love and support from Singapore! 🌷💖

[@craik7]

أسأل الله العلي القدير أن يجعل هذا في ميزان حسناتكم يوم القيامة بإذنه تعالى.. اخي محمد حجاب بارك الله فيك وجزاك الله خير على هذا الجهد في سبيل الله وأدعو إلى الله أن يتقبل منك ويدخلك جنات الفردوس الاعلى مع الصديقين و الشهداء

[@jamesvickery6158]

Slight typo in the description habibi, for the twelvershia site...JzkAllah khayr for the vid

[@Ayod2k7]

i want to say that its nice to see things went good and everyone was smiles

[@fahadahmedoo7]

Br Hijab Refuted their concepts from their own Books... lol

[@Trellick96]

Did anyone actually understand what the shia was talking about?

[@edwardnewgate3721]

notice how brother mohammed is willing to discuss anything but the shia guys (even in last vid) make all these restrictions, they know brother mohammed will catch them out

[@Umer-]

It's painful to watch someone trying prove something without evidence. You can't justify a made up belief, just like the concept of the trinity . summed up at 29:56

[@johnwaynepresley]

Allahu Akbar. i love these videos. May Allah guide this brother and all the muslims.

[@koysorali281]

Ahlul-Sunnah-wal-jamah all the way.

[@muzhakkirali2108]

40:22 Eyyy that's Adnan Rashid!

[@banabak6732]

shia speaker looks stressed. I feel he knows ASWJ is the truth. Inshallah he comes to the truth ameen.

[@Borjigin.]

Alhamdulillah, I think this was the most positive video I've seen on your channel :)

[@timesfitnessgymphase2dhala391]

Brother hijabi first time i liked your debate... coz you showed respect and did not interrupt

[@samone5618]

Need more of these debates.

[@MrRafsany]

1:08:10 this is a good point indeed. thanks Br. Adnan

[@EyeIn_The_Sky]

Every time the shite throws out the "going off topic" each time he gets asked a direct question on the topic . He's basically told him don't ask questions that prove Shias wrong

[@petiteiusmhe4954]

Well done 👍🏻 brother Muhammed

[@titosantana8782]

Mashallah this is a good example of agreeing to disagree then go to lunch together

[@Just_logic]

Bro Hijab Big of you to apologize for previous debate. Can you guys not get a separate microphones? Voice of brother Adnan is unique

[@IIM3RK-UII]

Why does the shia akh avoid every question and act like they have no time...he just looks very uncomfortable to be debating

[@NicheXclusive]

The other Shia guy didn't know about hajj he nearly flipped out.. I dnt think he is ready for imaamah lol

[@Yousef0208]

may Allah reward you brother

[@adamabdulmumin3157]

brother hijab may allah bless u n grant u jannah for knowing better . i appreciate very much what u r doing by engaging our shia brothers dis is da only way not da violence rhetoric .

[@EyeIn_The_Sky]

"The imama is different to the Naboo, the immama divinely designated " So the prophets were not divinely designated???? Lol crazy sects

[@mohammadirfaansulliman9032]

Mohammed Hijab vs Ammar Nakshwani please please please

[@abdirahmanibrahim9777]

this guy is not even answering the question

[@IslamOriginal14]

Quran 33:40 مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ اَبَآ اَحَدٍ مِّنۡ رِّجَالِكُمۡ وَلٰـكِنۡ رَّسُوۡلَ اللّٰهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيّٖنَ ؕ وَكَانَ اللّٰهُ بِكُلِّ شَىۡءٍ عَلِيۡمًا "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the seal of the Prophets. Allah has full knowledge of everything." This verse explains Muhammad is: رَّسُوۡلَ اللّٰهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيّٖن "Messenger of God and seal of Prophets." He is the last messengerرسول‎ and prophet نبي ;he is the 'seal' خَاتَم of Prophethood نُبُوَّة. And he is the seal of messages/ رسالات from God. Quran 3:33-34 اِنَّ اللّٰهَ اصۡطَفٰۤى اٰدَمَ وَنُوۡحًا وَّاٰلَ اِبۡرٰهِيۡمَ وَاٰلَ عِمۡرٰنَ عَلَى الۡعٰلَمِيۡنَۙ‏ ذُرِّيَّةًۢ بَعۡضُهَا مِنۡۢ بَعۡضٍ​ؕ وَاللّٰهُ سَمِيۡعٌ عَلِيۡمٌ​ۚ‏ "Truly God chose Adam and Noah and the descendants of Abraham and of 'Imran above all the worlds, offspring, one from the other; and verily God is All-Hearing, All-Knowing." God keeps the rank of messengerرسول‎ or prophet نبي in the family. Quran 28:68 وَرَبُّكَ يَخۡلُقُ مَا يَشَآءُ وَيَخۡتَارُ​ؕ مَا كَانَ لَهُمُ الۡخِيَرَةُ​ؕ سُبۡحٰنَ اللّٰهِ وَتَعٰلٰى عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُوۡنَ‏ "Your Lord creates what He will and chooses (for His tasks) whomsoever He will. It is not for them to make the choice..." There are also other divine ranks mentioned in isolation from prophet and messenger. And these roles are kept in a prophets family. They are: a) King مَـلِـك‎ (Quran 2:247), b) Vicegerent خَلِيۡفَة (Quran 2:30, 6:165, 12:76, 17:21, 58:11), c) Leaders أَئِمَّة (Quran 32:24, 28:5, 25:74, 21:73). d) Messiah مَسِيۡح (Quran 3:45) Quranically, these chosen roles are kept in the family. Thats sunna. God chooses, not man. If you think one rank or role that God chooses someone for encompasses all other roles, then Quran wouldn't have explicitly differentiated them the way it does. Examples from Quran are: 1. Adam was termed the vicegerent of God 2:30 in Quran. He was also dubbed prophet by God in a different verse. In fact, all people are vicegerents according to Quran 6:165, me and you. Does that mean we are all prophets? Or that we are خَلِيۡفَة like Adam? Quran mentions degrees explicitly 6:165, grouping divine chosen ones with all of mankind. 2. Talut a.s was chosen to be 'King' by God Himself in Quran. Quran 2:247 ...اِنَّ اللّٰهَ قَدۡ بَعَثَ لَـکُمۡ طَالُوۡتَ مَلِكًا... Quran makes no mention in calling Talut نبي prophet. Just king مَلِك. 3. Jesus is termed Messiah in Quran, to which no other chosen person is dubbed. Proving furthermore that being chosen for one divine role does not encompass other roles automatically (Quran 3:45) 4. Abraham, in Quran, is given rank of اِمَامًا leader after the fact of already being a prophet of God. And leadersip stays in his family 2:124. This drives the point that these ranks are different from each other. 5. The story of Moses meeting Khidr in Quran is another example Quran 18:65. Khidr is more knowledgeable than Moses. But God only calls Khidr a servant vouchsafed with mercy and taught knowledge by God Himself. He is not called a prophet or messenger in Quran. 6. In fact Mehdi, who is a chosen figure by God recognized by all Islamic schools, is neither a prophet or messenger. He is undoubtedly a divinely chosen leader after the Prophet Muhammad, that is not a Prophet bringing revelation. So when God says Muhammad is the seal of prophets, God is saying there are no more 'prophets' that will bring revelation after Muhammad. God is not saying there are no more chosen kings, chosen leaders, or chosen vicegerents.

[@KarimBilal1]

very respectful debate!

[@bionipower4965]

Sick video g love it more please

[@TruthHurts0]

What did the sheikh say to the student to improve his recitation? Read more..

[@awaisjamil9956]

Who else recognised Brother Adnan Rashid's voice 41:00

[@ItachiAli1993]

At 57:40 the Shia speaker makes clear that he is still searching if it is Part of the UsoolEDeen or UsoolEMadhab and not Rejecting Imamah. He mentioned if Imamah consists of Infallibility and Guidance then that can be found in the Quran. But the 12imams are not mentioned. Those names are specified in the Hadiths.

[@NicheXclusive]

Haq is haq & baatil is baatil... Na'am Tayyib

[@Prisondboy]

Mohammad Hijab, debate Sayyed Ammar Nakshawani or Allayyari who both are more knowledgable students of Islam from the Shii School and upload the video.

[@tjsimpson4744]

just a christian passing through the comments.....

[@tma2620]

is there a problem with the video😓..keeps breaking(a brief pause) every few seconds? or is it just me..i did watch another video to verify, it was fine.

[@FSAYED04]

Over all it was a better discussion than the before... it was more respectful. Brother Mohammad Hijab has learned some manners (Good job brother Mohammad Hijab). Lets all keep it up and keep researching to learn and get closer to Allah ( azza wa jal). Inshallah! amen.

[@shohelahmed7352]

MashAllah I like brother Mohammed hijab debates great job 👍🏾

[@aziz313786]

Asslamualaikum, Alhamdulillah, nice video...well done brother Mohammed Hijab...well presented please do this kind of discussion with the qadiani too....

[@NicheXclusive]

Imaam concept from the Quran is very hard to prove only two points infallibility and leader

[@ItachiAli1993]

another debate??? Ma shaa Allah

[@7LamarOdom]

no evidence has been provided for the infallibility or the importance or the divinity of this maint point. utter obliteration... sorry but Mohamed Hijab uppercut this dude

[@Lifeistransitory1]

Assalamu alakum Ya Muhammad Hijab.

[@zdakila1]

Mashallah. Both brothers did great

[@redsox7897]

Ya Allah please guide as all..

[@highoutlaw]

muhammad “the heavyweight” hijab, knocking the shiite out of the shia.

[@zacharymason6798]

For those of you who speak arabic, please watch Rami Issa (رامي عيسي)... He asks Shia Scholars some questions over the phone and exposes their beliefs.. He's a must watch!

[@nazshah3932]

well done brothers Mohammed has never been hostile to the shia brothers.

[@mdrahman442]

first one to comment. alhamdullah

[@zacneymar]

there isn't, worse than the Christians with their daleel, the messengers are the best of people but no where imaamah isnt even mentioned.

[@MK-pt9xt]

that was toooooo short, may god guide us all. the shai brothers were trapped.

[@786jaff]

what we need here is unity and peace not hating on each other like most people here commenting negative things about shia.. there was no winners here its was unity #onelove "the biggest shame is to mock at something that you have in yourself" imam Ali (AS)

[@mathayogisosi9254]

what is wrong with shia brother (am not discussing it today)

[@mystiqur1148]

I need another discussion on the infallibility and following these imams.

[@hashimwara]

If someone dose only good dose that mean their are not capable of doing wrong, then why are the imamah when their are not designated nabi regarded as infallibly?

[@tshelby9808]

Jheeze fresh trim

[@Kuch.bhi.official]

Very Sorry to Say mixing salah with imamah. dear there is difference between Emaaniyaat and Ebaadaat. for example in Emaaniyaat we believe Touheed Risalat Nabuwat . other prophet Quran and other books angels Gebrail mikail israfeel etc but there is nothing in Quran about imamah of 12 or even immah is not mention in the sense what shia believe. Quran clearly mention Emaaniyaat but in Ebaadaat there is sunnah and ijma/amal e tawatur etc. PLEASE DON't Misguide your laymen by mixing Ebaadaat with Emaaniyaat. prove your emaaniyaat from Quran otherwise except that your are just following shubuhaat

[@TazKidNoah]

This is great discussion =] However to say that Sunnis r running around the bush on not disproving Imamate is ridiculous. There is NO clear verse where Infallible is granted outside of Allah, his Messages, & Prophethood?! Wali and Caliph has been assumed as Imamate. I personally think that Zaydi-Sunni peace is more possible then Shia-Sunni because Oldest Sect of Shia shares more in common with Main Stream Muslims then rest of other Shia sects. If people want to point out what is happening in Yemen; I say its Political Domain then Religous differences. Hanbali Muslims r not GIVING Zaydis EQUITY of Rights as Citizens of Yemen. The Political Reform must be Zaydi-Sunni solution, not Nationalism backed by the Gulf States & The West.....

[@MisterSolitude]

When hijab stops writing , you know your getting battered

[@habiburrahman5420]

was the shia talking chinese did not understand a single point of his,no disrespect

[@jehanzebz]

This was a wonderful discussion, because there was real respect and friendliness, although the subject was very serious and contentious. God bless you all. The main objective of this discussion was to find out aspects of Imama in the Qur’an that match with Shi’a beliefs. I will not give all the relevant Qur’anic verses (just one sample of verses). Instead I will give a summary from Wilferd Madelung, who is arguably the most respected living western scholar of Islam. One scholar has said the following about him: “There is no branch of knowledge of medieval Islamic history and religion that Wilferd Madelung has left untouched. Few have been as prolific in the depth and breadth of their scholarship, while possessing the humility, humanity and perspicacity that he does.” This is what Madelung says, which is not complicated, and also easy for the layman to verify: “In the Qurʾān, the descendants and close kin of the prophets are their heirs also in respect to kingship (mulk), rule (ḥukm), wisdom (ḥikma), the book and the imamate. …The Qurʾān advises the faithful to settle some matters by consultation, but not the succession to prophets. That, according to the Qurʾān, is settled by divine election, and God usually chooses their successors, whether they become prophets or not, from their own kin.” - Wilferd Madelung, The Succession to Muhammad: A Study of the Early Caliphate. pg. 17. Here are some verses that are close to each other and develop a theme: [4: 54] “Or do they envy the people for what Allah has given them of His grace? Indeed We have given to the Family of Ibrahim the Book and the Wisdom, and We have given them a great Kingdom (mulkan azima).” [4: 58-63] “God commands you to return things entrusted to you to their rightful owners, and, if you judge between people, do so with justice: God’s instructions to you are excellent, for He hears and sees everything. You who believe, obey God and the Messenger, and those in authority among you. If you are in dispute over any matter, refer it to God and the Messenger, if you truly believe in God and the Last Day: that is better and fairer in the end. Do you [Muhammad] not see those who claim to believe in what has been sent down to you, and in what was sent down before you, yet still want to turn to transgressors for judgement (hukm), although they have been ordered to reject them? Satan wants to lead them far astray. When they are told, ‘Turn to God’s revelations and the Messenger [for judgement],’ you see the hypocrites turn right away from you [Prophet]. If disaster strikes them because of what they themselves have done, then they will come to you, swearing by God, ‘We only wanted to do good and achieve harmony.’ God knows well what is in the hearts of these people, so ignore what they say, instruct them, and speak to them about themselves using penetrating words.” [4: 65] “By your Lord, they will not be true believers until they let you decide between them in all matters of dispute, and find no resistance in their souls to your decisions, accepting them totally.”

[@acancertumor9086]

wow, dislikes already, the dedication...

[@missunknownunknown]

Why Shia are so shady???

[@halidali1652]

Mashallah i like this opponent of mohammed hijab being a truly said that all 12 imama and infallible is not clear mentioned in quran mashallah i wish all the shia will be slowly accept what is clearly not in the foundation which is quran and do rejected what is correct and not included to our guide quran ameen