Shimano Pedal Flaw?

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Expert Bike Fitter Neill Stanbury explains the biggest problem with some of the most popular pedal systems on the market. The 3 bolt design is a very good system and works well when brand new, but as soon as wear get's into the system this can cause havoc among your position.
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@rotecrl9719 10 ай бұрын

I went from yellow to blue a few years ago during a cycling holiday with lots of climbing. After three days one knee had taken damage which took months to recover from. After getting back on the bike with yellow cleats I never had these issues again.

@serdiezv 4 ай бұрын

To me the float was killing me, going for blue cleats solved the problem entirely. I needed my knee to stay in place.

@harrymaybourne8667 2 ай бұрын

I had a very similar experience except it was with reds. Going to yellow stopped the knee problems. I’m never going back.

@kuyajepjepvlogs 2 ай бұрын

Changing cleats attachment needs new pedal fitting.

@human-pl7kx 11 ай бұрын

Red cleats do not have lateral movement. That’s why they cause a lot of injuries and that’s why everybody use yellow cleats

@adamlipman1930 11 ай бұрын

Yeah leave it for the pro's.

@domestique3954 11 ай бұрын

red cleats are great and i use them for years but they have to be placed exact

@serdiezv 4 ай бұрын

No, the problem is angular float. No pedal system is supposed to have lateral float.

@ERIK31351 11 ай бұрын

Didn't actually mention any flaws, you just displayed the float that is specifically desired when buying that cleat...

@veganpotterthevegan 11 ай бұрын

The float is measured by the angle you can rotate your feet. Not how far right or left your shoe can move on the pedal. I always fit people off of where the tension of the pedal stops the foot if they're using a pedal that does this.

@gavinmercak-dinolfo1375 10 ай бұрын

The flaw is that your q factor can change one pedal to the other

@danielashleybaker 10 ай бұрын

angular float is the design. The lateral float is the flaw.

@adccars359 10 ай бұрын

That indeed is a major flaw. I think i may have been a victim to that issue. Switching to speedplays help alot. I do miss the feel of dura ace pedals under my feet.

@veganpotterthevegan 10 ай бұрын

@adccars359 I'm a huge Speedplay fan, personally and as a fitter. But Looks may be an ideal pedal for you if you miss that platform. I consider the cleat the platform for Speedplay and it's a sizeable one. But if you don't prefer it, try something else. We spend too much time pedaling circles to not like how they feel

@danielhertercasagrande1686 11 ай бұрын

That’s great the only thing I noticed is that I feel well with these cleats also with the red look cleats

@thebikegnome160 2 ай бұрын

Yeah ,not a flaw , a design choice. One I actually appreciate.

@ddddur 11 ай бұрын

thankfully, i dont have that problem with the mountain bike shimano cleats. or more particularly, i never feel like i have that problem

@richardhaselwood9478 Жыл бұрын

Interesting implication here given that most of us will keep our Shimano pedals for over a decade....

@kevinthepark 11 ай бұрын

I’ve never been a fan of pedal/cleat float on the road. Red Shimano cleats give the best feeling of being locked in and engaged with the pedals. I think the injury risk of zero float is highly over exaggerated by people who’ve never actually tried zero float and see how their body handles it.

@colincanyon2519 10 ай бұрын

I agree, I would hate movement and that's why I use red 👍

@serdiezv 4 ай бұрын

No two people are the same. I agree because my body behaves like that, but my brother needs float or his knees resent a lot

@Robert-mn8gc 4 ай бұрын

I have had 2 sets of Shimano Dura Ace Pedals. 1st set like these was there 1st ever set in approx 1988/90 & 6 yrs ago ultegra. But last April l went 2 Time Xpro 12 Pedals on my very very upgraded SL5 TARMAC EXPERT. Then in May last year Time Xpro 15 Pedals on my new SL7 S-WORKS TARMAC & end November last year Time Xpro 15 Pedals on my new SL8 S-WORKS TARMAC. Fantastic Pedals 84 grams each from memory. Neil Stainbury apparently has access 2 a Triathlon Pedal which also looks Gr8

@DeanPattrick 11 ай бұрын

This is why i use SPD 😅

@shamuslamont100 11 ай бұрын

Even more in SPD

@DeanPattrick 11 ай бұрын

@@shamuslamont100 you can dial in the float on the SPD

@ev-ezaye3580 10 ай бұрын

@@DeanPattrickinteresting!

@simonwarmer8777 10 ай бұрын

Blue 👍

@geothunder1971 Жыл бұрын

I like speedplay/wahoo pedals just because of all of the adjustment capabilities and no lateral movement, probably not a good pedal system for a novice. But I have the curse of the constant tinkerer.

@michelbinet5278 3 ай бұрын

"No lateral movement"...? I guess you're one of the lucky ones not having that issue with the Wahoo/Speedplay as I keep reading reviews after reviews about that problem..! Have to change my old Speedplays and I hesitate going on with Wahoo because of that..!

@ghgjftythnhcfghdty 10 ай бұрын

"Rotatory"?

@Maggie_n_Mitch23 2 ай бұрын

Shimano snaps ?

@Malte1878 10 ай бұрын

Is blue better ?

@yonglingng5640 6 ай бұрын

If you can handle that little float, why not? This is what I'm on now, coming from Look Keo's grey cleats (4.5°).

@Motorman1974 10 ай бұрын

New to clipless here, why is float desired or least desired? What are pros and cons for both float and no float?

@systemicchaos3921 10 ай бұрын

The thinking is that your foot cn naturally move through its best range of motion when there is float. For no float you get more lock down and morepower but you have to have your cleats setup perfectly for you to avoid injury. Some people need some float to avoid injury

@colincanyon2519 10 ай бұрын

Just buy red and if u don't get on with them then go yellow

@ev-ezaye3580 10 ай бұрын

@@colincanyon2519No! That's absurd advice.... one needs a bike fit to try out the varied floats... Next best thing is to start with the middle ground (with Shimano it's 2°, Look 4½°) then go up or down from there, depending on your bodies needs!

@colincanyon2519 10 ай бұрын

@ev-ezaye3580 My god listen you, u'd think it was a machine gun I was giving advice on! 😂😂😂

@yonglingng5640 6 ай бұрын

@@ev-ezaye3580 Of all customers I've served who started off clipless with SPD-SL, they use the yellow cleats that came with their pedals (except Dura-Ace). For me, I started with Look Keo, so I started off with grey cleats. Overtime, I felt 4.5° of float is a little too much for me, so when I switched to SPD-SL (this is what I wanted all this while), I'm now on blue cleats.

@sillypuddystl2907 10 ай бұрын

Yeah so? I’ve used 6* float for 30+ years. They’re great if you y try ride a-lot miles. Have had ZERO problems.

@jerm215 10 ай бұрын

They offer 6 degrees of float from what their spec sheets say . Perfect for overweight riders

@skandhaprasath2767 2 ай бұрын

Lateral float + rotation freedom is soooooo irritating, if you try to pedal standing up. I just ordered blue cleats. Hoping it would fix my issues without injuries.

@cashmoney56911 11 ай бұрын

They sell 0 float cleats

@johnbienaszii7729 11 ай бұрын

which they shouldn't

@serdiezv 4 ай бұрын

@@johnbienaszii7729why not? A perfectly dialed cleat can actually help cyclists who need their knee locked in because of previous injuries.

@e.aenterprises105 10 ай бұрын

Lol. All the muppets lapping this up, too.

@lazyac_ 11 ай бұрын

You’re going too far, take a breath or consult because youre talking about marginal bike fitting that have no incidence, majority of cyclist ride flats or mtb cleats…

@lazyac_ 11 ай бұрын

Human body is not a machinery, organic can adapt