SHINee's Impact on Music

[@JonathanMillerMusic]

OMG I just saw this! Thank you so much for reacting to my SHINee video! I'm glad you liked it. I appreciate what you had to say especially toward the end about how young Taemin was and how that alone might've had an impact on his mental health. Thank you for sharing the Shiny Foundation too. 💙

[@kit_subs]

Thank you for making such a beautiful video for SHINee and Shawols 💎💎💎💎💎

[@JimGames]

Thank you for the fantastic video. :)

[@sofeels_]

The Shiny Foundation is very, very legit. The SHINee members themselves and many other SM artists and even Jonghyun's friends in the music industry outside of SM support it to this day.

[@maggot2259]

YES and his sister goes very often too, I'm happy it's still a thing till this day and it didn't fade away, it's very important to shinee, jjongs family, shawols, and others that need it and want to support it.

[@blueonew2848]

when shinee's don't call me came out, some people said they didn't like it because it wasn't shinee's usual style of music. which made no sense since shinee is an experimental group. It's really fun to follow their music, it's like opening a blind box, you never know what you'll get next.

[@Saddlemomma]

Yeah, I said the exact same thing. I think most of those comments came from newer fans who didn't understand all the risks and musical experiments from SHINee. Literally every comeback was some different form/genre or mix of genres from SHINee. The funniest comment was from some who said DCM sounded like the copy of an EXO song. Then a video came out of SHINee talking with two music producers (not involved in DCM) who were lauding SHINee for their risk in using the song because it was so different from standard Kpop fare. SHINee revealed they worked on the existing, bare-bones song quite a bit to make it unique: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGPUqmCpm9pnqbc

[@maggot2259]

I didn't get why people said that and said that they don't do hiphop, like they haven't done a full hiphop title track but they have many hiphop mixed with R&B bsides and they do it WELL. And as u said, there whole thing is about experimenting with music and genres 😂

[@zhisu2665]

Don't call me was just missing the extra SHINee factor that still comes out in their other genres and I don't find myself willingly clicking on it, I've been a shawol for 11 years

[@jackiekun4545]

@@maggot2259 shinee doesn't have good rapper. Hip hop doesn't work well with them.

[@maggot2259]

@jackie kun Dude minho is a good rapper, and Key is decent, it's obvious they aren't the best and I know that but they are still good, Minho has literally been writing his own verses since he was 16 unlike other kpop idols, and when his rap verses are necessary to the song ITS GOOD, ofc their are some songs we're it isn't great but that's because it's forced, but many Kpop groups do that(which is annoying) And as I said they have done Hip hop mixed with RnB and it sound good so I don't know why they can't do hip-hop when other K-pop groups can(even tho they have 1 or 2 decent rappers??)

[@Oliviaanna1212]

The fact that they've had this career for 15 years and the oldest member is only 33 years old is crazy. The impact and path they paved for a whole countries industry, they opened the global door for the next generation to explode on the west. Truly the idols of idols so excited for their upcoming album this month. SHINee are back baby!

[@cocotaem5101]

On Taemin training at 14, you can see in his own music that he struggled a lot with finding himself amidst growing up in the toxic entertainment industry. It's really a wonder he grew up as well as he did and I think the other members played a large part in that too.

[@amparobiosca3387]

Realmente los demas miembros protegieron a Taemin como a su propio hijo, de echo lo sigen haciendo, ha sido y sera el maknae mas mimado de la industria jajjaj y el lo sige disfrutando, cuando debuto sufrio bulling en su escuela, y alli que ivan sin que él los vieran como guardaespaldas al entrar y salir incluso se turnaban para hacerlo, Key le preparaba el amuerzo todos los dias, cierto que habia cosas de las que no podian protegerlo, como cuando le preguntaron si veia nopor y su ingenuidad le hizo contestar que si !! y eso que solo Onew era el unico mayor de edad al debutar

[@lunapau]

So nice seeing people get to know SHINee a bit more. And get ready for the 15th anniversary comeback 🎉 it’s going to be HARD.

[@kitsuneborahae]

The name still makes me laugh 😂

[@kginmyheart]

there is an advantage for labeling shinee's genre as contemporary.. it allows their music to be experimental and edgy.. and listening to them after many years still sound timeless

[@itsaleksziajor]

I still remember that day when the news about Jonghyun came out. I just finished classes for the day and saw the news articles, I stood at the bus stop crying my eyes out. What an emotional day.... Honestly, he was and is one of the best vocalists. I enjoy listening to his voice so much, it's so unique. I miss him a lot!

[@krysk3141]

I'm a pretty close to an OG Shawol(2008-2009). I had to order albums and wait like 4 weeks for it to arrive(I'm old!). Thanks for appreciating my boys for all they have done. I still think of Jjong often and cry when I think of all he could have accomplished. I literally remember crying in my car in the parking lot of a Barnes and Noble in December 2017. My ult bias is Onew, please treat him with all the respect that an angel baby deserves (I'm so worried for him). Signing out, SHINee groupie, 2017, Toronto, ON to Dallas, TX. Respect your sunbaes.

[@jannyjanecornejo6853]

SHINee top tier artists legends 👑👑👑👑👑💯💯💯💯💯💎💎💎💎💎

[@mariondaim4491]

They were the one who've have done the first hard dance move and choreography in kpop too, Taemin is known to be the MJ of Korea, Onew can sing Opera, Jonghyun is known to be one of the most beautiful voice in korea, Key is the first korean artist who've design outfit for his groupe, .... etc .... Articles: *"15 Idols & groups all Named Legendary Sunbaes Shinee as their inspiration" *"Prince of Kpop Shinee's stability in an Ever-Changing Industry" *"SHINee Fans Praised For Being One Of The Most Trustworthy And Polite Fandoms" *"Shinee: Strong Muscicality - Unique Fashion Sense - Distinct sound - Distinct voices of each members Shinee is a group that cannot be overlooked when looking at the History of Kpop" (By RollingStone) *Shinee the groupe that probably started all of the kpop trend" *Shinee don't repeat concepts; Rather, they expand concept and stories" *Shinee recognized as the irreplaceable "Edge of Kpop" by Korean Media .... & so many more ( most are rescent ones) Not everyone will love their song, i'm Shawol since their debut & Shinee is one of the only groupe still today who have touch so many type & style of music during their career (they're so creative) but even if i'm a Shawol i have some song that i'm not a fan of & song that i love, it's normal & depend on the music test of peoples. When i see today so many toxic fans ( of Bts & Blackpink) posting toxic comment about Shinee disrespecting them just for existing not because of something in particular (probably cause they see them still being popular today even if they're an old groupe & that they don't know them or else ...) it really make me angry cause SHINEE have build the Kpop & what it is today , most trend or thing that their groupes do today SHINEE were the first one doing it . They're known to be the Pilar of Kpop, Most celebrity who've came after them love them & some are even fan of them (They're well respected by everyone in the industry) Now Kpop really look a like, have "same concept same type of music" etc (it change little by little but ..) & most importantly the fandoms have became so TOXIC (of course back then Fandoms were toxic too in some ways) but today it 100% worst than in the past

[@jackiekun4545]

I disagree, they are not the only one that shaped kpop industry to what it is today. Their legacy are smaller compared to bigbang, suju and tvxq if we are talking about boygroup. Almost all boygroup now either follow blueprint by bigbang and suju line. Also if we're talking about expansion in asia, suju was the first one to open barrier to southeast asia, tvxq in japan and bigbang outside of asia, breaking stereotypes, producing and writing their own songs (which nowadays idol have been given and follow chance). Known to have fun and unchanging concept every comeback, they also great discography with almost all genre try, trot, r&b, hip hop,blues,pop and many more. I also disagree with trend and fashion ,if we're talking about fashion, gd is the king of fashion. Even idol acknowledged it and he literally founded and own peaceminesone, it's the third highest sell in asia, and number one in korea. He's also the first to become ambassador for brand like chanel and work with them. He literally gave opportunity to every idol now. The changing hair color for comeback was also bigbang trend that they have popularized. They are many achievement of 2nd gen group and they are the one that shaped and exert more influence compared to shinee. Not saying shinee didn't but it's smaller than the three group mentioned

[@soapwol]

Thank you Jim for reacting to this. SHINee's artistry is underappreciated. It saddens me that certain people can view that essay and instead of taking away an appreciation for SHINee, a spotlight on mental health, they make it about stupid uninportant fandom beef. Anyway, SHINee for life!

[@shanbeauty4193]

Shinee💎💎💎💎 yet this vid still have not sum it all up, these boys R Legends n respected by A lot 💎💎🎊🎊🎊

[@sofeels_]

SHINee's fandom name isn't "shallows" 😂 It's SHINee World, or "shawols" for short. "Shawol" is a combination of the first syllables of the words "SHINee World" as written in hangul (korean alphabet) so it's pronounced sha (like the shi in shiny) wols (exactly as it's written).

[@JimGames]

😳

[@sofeels_]

​@@JimGames let me correct myself. "Sha" is pronounced like with an "ah" sound, not "sha-ee" like in "shiny" (sha-ee-nee). Or like the "sha" in "shallows" actually hahaha I just noticed I didn't explain that one correctly, sorry 😅 I hope this makes sense!

[@JimGames]

@@sofeels_ it dose, thank you :)

[@LFNZE]

Sherlock by shinee the best KPOP song ever created

[@maggot2259]

SHINee did not have it easy and Jjongs depression started before debuting and in my opinions Koreas mental health system fucked up on him(doctors excused his mental health!!) and i think Korea overall needs better educational and mental health system. But back to Shinee, i would say Taemin did have it pretty bad when he debuted at 14(started traning at 11), he was criticized on his vocal skills and was called tone deaf before he debuted and had almost 0 lines in their first song/album, he spent very little time with his family and would cry thinking about his brother(a problem shinee and all of kpop have, underage kids should get to see their family more often) He was also heavily sexualized by men and women(constantly touched without permission, inappropriate jokes, and made to do uncomfortable/sexual things) and was femanized, which caused him to not like his androgynous look and took him a while(until MOVE era) for him to embrace it. I can go on about the other members but that would be way too long, but i have lots of appreciation and more respect towards them after finding out what they've been thru.

[@Saddlemomma]

Jim, if you want to see a more serious and excellent interview between SHINee and two music producers regarding their music process (especially in creating 2021's "Don't Call Me"), I would like to suggest this interview: "What Makes SHINee Scared" ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGPUqmCpm9pnqbc ) It was a much longer interview, but this is the only part put on YT. The "SHINy Foundation is legit, and they just recently had this year's event.

[@milindawilson9175]

I totally agree. I think not enough people have seen this interview.

[@kitsuneborahae]

I think Jim could be considered a babywol now.

[@stephanieyminho]

YEEEESSSS,LEYEND 💎 Kings SHINee...thanks for your reaction ❤

[@pyejammiesfanfic640]

I was really surprised to see the problems at SM as I had thought they treated their groups better than most. I can't claim to be a Shawol but I enjoy finding out about the members. They have gone through so much as a group. Losing Jonghyun must have been devastating on both a professional and personal level. I have friends who think that famous people have nothing to complain about but we don't know what strains they are under. Imagine falling in love and getting married and your fans camp outside your agency demanding you divorce as has happened to one K-Pop star. Or when you announce your daughter's birth a group of people try to destroy you as happened to, Tablo, of Epic High. It's good to hear that the SHINee Foundation is a great support for young artists. I was interested to learn that SHINee started the filming of dance practices. I believe that Taemin was a lot younger than 14 when he started training. He was fourteen at debut.

[@Saddlemomma]

Taemin was 12 when he entered SM and, at that time, one of the youngest idols to ever debut.

[@edithcaceres4251]

Si,taemin tenía 12 años cuando ingreso a la SM y a los 14 debutó.

[@yokonamigaara]

SM unfortunately has a long and storied history with artist mistreatment, you can look into the story of TVXQ/JYJ, Hangeng from Super Junior, as well as the original Chinese members of EXO (Luhan, Kris, and Tao) for some of the more well known lawsuits.

[@Julianna_w]

Not really. Another reader has commented about what happened to TVXQ and EXO. Shinhwa (a top 1st gen group) was also torn apart when they were about to renew their contracts. To cut a long story short, the members decided to leave together but ended up in a decade-long legal battle for the rights to use their name. This together with what they did to JYJ's careers in a way show how vindictive they can be. SME's profit distribution rates with its artists are generally known to be one of the lowest (if not the lowest) in the industry....not exactly treating their groups well IMHO

[@gumgurl2140]

53:35 absolutely, even if you understand evolvement, people lose boundaries after watching over you for years. For example, while taemin was serving, ppl kept taking photos of him in the shower while he slept... this got to him leading his condition to deteriorate

[@LADYSILVERWOLF028]

Thanks for reacting to this. I appreciate that this takes nothing from the achievements of other groups to recognize the works of SHINee. Sending love to everyone in the kpop families Shawol and otherwise.❤

[@leydarachadey465]

Maravilloso documental de SHINEE .Hermoso que la gente conosca todo el legado que an dejado a toda la industria del K-POP . Siempre seran unas leyendas queridas respetadas por las nuevas generaciones del K-POP. Un maravilliso ejemplo a seguir . FELIZ 15 ANIVERSARIO SHINEe .🎉,❤ Siempre seras una inmensa luz como tu nombre.

[@зайканалужайке-м9л]

Thank you for shinee journey

[@marinal.]

Hi, I am back. Good reaction, ty. This popped up in my suggested and since i am a new Taemin bias and am still learning about Shinee decided to watch. This was a good info vid. BTS were close friends with Shinee and were inspired by them a lot. Their dance practices are a must watch as well as their Halloween dance practices, lol. Taemin debuted at 14 yo but so did JK. Taemin deals with mental health issues to this day. And many of BTS members too. BTS writes about mental health often. And i see new groups do the same like Seventeen and Le SERRAFIM. I am excited for Shinee's comeback. I am looking forward to their new sound. Hugs.-NY USA 2019 Army 💜

[@aprild6330]

Please jump on shinee the feeling. You are guaranteed hope and beautiful summer vocals

[@catreggio3241]

I am here just after listening to "The Feeling" song. I am happy to see again so many shawol here. Have a nice day all

[@destinee9912]

Rest in peace moonbin and jonghyung

[@zoe-0752]

Shinee was my first group, if you haven't listened to them, I assure you that you won't regret it so give them a chance

[@BABYMONSTER_AHYEON_RORA_RAMI]

SHINee !! They are fantastic !!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@sheliatice]

The teaining system is the same in Japan. You should look theough some of their agencies as well. Kpop was big in Jaoan before it was big in Korea. Most of the kids have fo work as junior backup dancers, etc.

[@rumachintapalli4516]

While BTS has recieved it's popularity,shinee already achieved so much. I don't understand the hype that BTS gets. It's not they aren't talented or don't deserve. However they get bit too much hype than what actually they need to get. Every artist has talent and visuals. Shinee is definitely one of them. I don't understand what shinee/exo is lacking and what only BTS has to get such huge popularity. No offence plz. Am not hater of BTS. It's just my perception.

[@lillipupzilla]

Granted I am not a fan of BTS, I am sure they are all cool and talented dudes, but I will say this: BTS had a lot of good international social media marketing at a time when most groups were still only promoting on old school TV shows. Shinee barely got an official Twitter account like three or four years ago, meanwhile BTS was posting daily for like years before that. Their company was ahead of the curve in that aspect and it paid off for them.

[@blossom6693]

​@@rumachintapalli4516 BTS is not lucky, they come from bankrupt company, they were cut off from broadcast in korea bcz of big3 power, they find their own way by using social media bcz that the only way left for them. Please don't spread half information.

[@delasmercedes2940]

@@rumachintapalli4516 You claim not to be against BTS, still you repeat the by now obsolete views about them, lack of skills and good luck of having a “good” company, and so on. BTS is celebrating 10 years of an extraordinary successful career, and considering that no matter the publicity invested by companies/corporations, artists never hold onto fame/popularity for that long, if they have nothing extraordinary to offer to the public, why continue repeating such fallacies, instead of celebrating this reaction on your favs careers. I understand you would have liked your fav artists to be at their fame level, well, they just couldn’t. I like some of the music of Exo and Shinee, I respect their work and skills, this why I watched the reaction. Would I invest time streaming, voting, and money on them, like I do in BTS? Not, but then I don’t do it with any other artists that I like either. Im 60+, lover of hip hop, funk, and rock. I never liked pop artists, such as Exo and Shinee, until I listened to BTS hip hop music, through them I learned of K-music. RM’s collabs in his solo album and latest singles have opened the doors for me to several incredible Korean artists. I know I’m not the only person who has had a similar experience. It’s OK not to like BTS, what it isn’t OK is to disregard/dismiss the choices fans like myself have made in supporting them.

[@bhavna7707]

@@delasmercedes2940 nd ya they don't hate bts but still hating on them by calling them out overrated on a video of their favrts. I mean have armys ever mentioned about u on a bts video so ruma chintapalli shut up stop ur jealousy.

[@jackiekun4545]

Shinee has never been the top boy group. You talk about bts but shinee can't even beat bigbang, tvxq, super junior legacy. Forget about beating bts, they can't even beat other group in 2nd gen

[@atrapadosenelkpop]

It is SHINee, not Shinee

[@JimGames]

Thank you just fixed it :)

[@bhavna7707]

the one who made this documentary was bitter towards bts deny if u want. Wt can be expected from smone who reacts to bp.

[@jackiekun4545]

Yeah, i think so too. Shinee has never been the top group. Their fandom talk about them being the best in kpop and dream about beating bts😂. They can't even defeat bigbang, tvxq and suju in their own gen😂

[@bhavna7707]

@@jackiekun4545 i think we should not be mean like them by demeaning wt shinee had dn bcz they have done a gud amount of work but i didn't like that ya i know every kpop grp does a lot of hardwork but bts was a bit different than others bcz they were only doing concerts nd cbs nd when had time they had to make content for run unlike all other grps who go to various tv shows nd all. BTS never had much interaction wd other idols the reason being they were always busy so how can u even compare them nd here theyre calling them overrarted. All i had to say is that if the video would have been about bts then u giving ur pov (i.e.useless)can still be understandable but its a shinee video but still ur obsessed wd bts then sorry but ur a fan of bts not shinee bcz u never forget them

[@milindawilson9175]

And this is what gives your fandom such a bad reputation. You only look to find ways to feel slighted instead of actually listening to what people say. If you weren't so bias you would see that all he said in the video was that SHINee was making waves and making it big in the same way that BTS is doing it now, but way before BTS was even popular. That doesn't mean he is looking down on BTS or hatting on them. If you don't have the open mindedness to objectively support other groups and give them the accolades they deserve, regardless of whether someone else is more successful today, than don't bother even watching anything else. Just stick to BTS and leave the rest of the fandoms alone. There's no reason to be mean. And its very bad form and sets a bad example for your fandom when you feel the need to assert your bias in a video that is meant to be a tribute to a group who deserve your respect, whether you are a fan of theirs or not. If you don't like a video or a reaction just don't watch it, don't be the reason why BTS fans get a bad reputation. The BTS members would be the first ones to tell you that SHINee deserves respect, regardless of whether BTS is more popular or not. And the SHINee members would also tell you that they respect and love all the BTS members just the same. Shawols support all artists, not just SHINee. You should consider doing the same.

[@amparobiosca3387]

@@milindawilson9175 Estoy completamente contigo en tu comentario, si ves la entrevista a Taemin de un miembro de BTS ( perdona si no escribo el nombre por que lo aria mal pues no escribo coreano) solo se que le decia que asi tenian que hacerlo cuando veian una coreografia como Serlok en el escenario y cantando en vivo, que al bajar del escenario que necesitaran oxigeno y eso se lo decia en Ceo de su agencia!!!!, luego aparece Jimin que es intimo amigo de Taemin, en la misma entrevista. Cuando Minho es amigo de 2 integrantes de BTS. Nunca entendere que le pasa al fandom de BTS, cuando alguien habla sobre los exitos o promociones de otros grupos es como si hablasen mal de BTS, y cuando recuerdo que algunas fans intentaron secuestralos, con una camioneta identica a la suya, menos mal que el manager se dio cuenta. Yo soy Española y ese comportamiento no lo entiendo (posesión de la persona o idolo) yo seria igualmente feliz si alguno de los integrantes de SHINee se casara o tubiese hijos, que SHInee fue un grupo famoso y lo sigue siendo despues de 16 años sera por que algo han hecho que a macado la historia de la Música en Asia y el resto del Mundo, al fin y al cabo Minho fue el primer asiatico en ser considerado uno de los hombres mas atractibo del mundo en una revista Americana en la era de Dinamita. Al igual que Key es el Ceo de vestuario y ha participado en la creación del vestuario del grupo, y ahora de la agencia, Bien antes de que existiesen Super Junior ya era conocido en America, y SHINee tambien fueron conocidos aunque no hablasen Ingles. No veras en China a BTS en las listas de música o en Japon, Rusia, etc Y ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡OJO NO ESTOY MENOSPRECIANDO A BTS !!!!!!! Solo recordandote que aqui se habla de SHInee. si no puedes contribuir o decir algo amable sobre ellos y su sacrificio e influencia en la música en 16 años, por favor que no te moleste que te recuerde cosas como que BTS fue y sigen siendo fans y los tomarón como modelos. Algo en la industria de la música es algo normal, los grandes, siempre admiran a otros que son grandes Michael Jackson - Prince: James Brown