Shivam and Wheeler LOVE cEDH | Atraxa VS Rogsi VS Kinnan VS Winota

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[@casualmagicwithshivambhatt]

i never thought i'd say this, but i freaking loved this game. I had the absolute best time, and i'm grateful for the invite =)

[@casualmagicwithshivambhatt]

i should say, the edit makes this seem a lot quicker than it was, and cut out the 30 minutes or whatever of Jim and Wheeler teaching me the different lines and how to win, lol. it was so much fun!

[@stormtrooperjeepjk]

Kinnan is like my gruul stompy with svella I don't know why I don't just play kinnan lol I keep trying to work through sultai food chain lol

[@jdcommander7026]

Thankful you got to hit the perfect stride here and get a taste of a highlight win! Such an exhilarating situation when draws just come together!

[@oddynuff9139]

Bad ass that was cool to watch you have fun with it 😊

[@thedevilcomes2011]

Ahh way to ROFLstomp the god hand :) shame it got slowed down by one turn :D ggs

[@TheTamally]

I am once again protesting that these cEDH episodes contain a second game so that they are longer than 20 minutes.

[@casualmagicwithshivambhatt]

in their defense, we had to record a *lot* of games that weekend, so it isn't really feasible to do multiple games with one pod

[@robertoruiz742]

I 100% agree with this! More games in the video plz 👉👈😳

[@TheTamally]

@@casualmagicwithshivambhatt Although that is a totally reasonable explanation, I still wish the videos were longer 😅 Also, I love your content and it was awesome to see you play some cEDH

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

Go watch a second episode then

[@TheTamally]

@@TheSpiritombsableye I've been watching for years, I've already seen every episode?

[@ekplayscards]

Thanks for having Wheeler. It's great for you to have him be there.

[@MrGrovak]

Shivams overwhelming joy made this episode even more incredible than it normally would be. Good game Shivam, sorry about your luck everyone else.

[@Gorilkiax]

Wheeler’s Snoop Lion joke *chef’s kiss*

[@jacobtrahan1993]

Thank you for solid as a rock it’s great to cedh

[@B1gLupu]

Thasios actually puts Boseiju on the field tapped, but that is a reasonable spot to scoop regardless.

[@samsimmons8370]

I came here to comment the same thing

[@GamerdevilPro]

There's probably another way to get rid of eidolon in that whole pile. Just looked at the list, skyturtle would've done it as well

[@snaxmiller]

@@GamerdevilPro Skyturtle was on the battlefield

[@MrZpwnage]

Thorn mammoth would fight the eidolon

[@kevinwestermann1001]

"Even, I take damage... - You HEATHEN!"

[@Duskraven377]

Props for mentioning the Gitrog Flowchart

[@enoesiw]

Thank you for Eidolon, it's great to lose here.

[@Shadow298]

Shivam cackling with joy as he sees the lines and potential (and then at the shock of realising it was a 3 turn game) makes the video all that more special. Always wonderful to see he and Wheeler on screen (especially together).

[@TheOnlyOrk]

Shivam has a glooorius cackle

[@JoshTheHod]

i wish you guys posted more games in one video, love it tho! anytime wheeler is around its great to be here

[@burningpapersun1]

Need more super spike shivam on the show with jerry. I would pay to watch that every week.

[@edwardking1969]

Shivan’s background cackling during the post game review was the most unadulterated joy I’ve heard from anyone ever. You can’t help but love him!

[@pjdietrich4470]

My goodness commanderin podcast. That's a blast to the past

[@9clawtiger]

Shivam chuckling uncontrollably off camera is my favourite.

[@thenightangel05]

Why is everyone so adorkable today@@@@@!!!!! Love this, and everyone involved!

[@MarvelOfRain]

Note that in the end the line Shinan described to win doesn’t work since Thrasios puts the Boseiju in play. Instead he would put Reclamation Sage in play to kill the Eidelon. Thorn Mammoth would be the line in current meta version of Kinnan.

[@Natedogg2]

Shivam said he had the Boseiju in his hand since turn 1.

[@crookedknows2889]

No quippy riff. Just a genuine thank you for the awesome video/game ❤

[@crossr1984]

I'd love to see you invite more casual players to play Cedh.

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

We plan on it! Do you have anyone in mind?

[@jacobginter3615]

Just go ham and invite dillion and cam, from play to win

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

Oh that's a slam dunk. We love those guys!

[@crossr1984]

@@TheSpikeFeeders Prof. We want to see Prof. If I'm not mistaken, he sat and observed the Cedh game on Shuffle Up and Play. Let's see hm get his nds dirty.

[@mrTjstephens1]

Shivam definitely found his deck! This was a fun watch congrats to all

[@jdcommander7026]

Great to be here times two! Love to see the c(ag)EDH games, too.

[@zygrot]

Paused Shivam and Wheeler Love Magic Ep 32 - Time Spiral to watch this.

[@jacksoncrumbaugh6977]

Thrasios would put boseiju onto the battlefield tapped so you would have to draw into a bounce spell and go for it on the next turn with eidolon of rhetoric in play, doubtful that anyone could win at instant speed at that point but it is possible

[@shivambhatt8380]

Boseiju was in my hand from turn 1

[@HJOTech]

i love you too jerry

[@j2c695]

I’m solid as a rock!

[@jerry32123]

❤

[@aidennoir597]

Is the thumbnail the only image of Shivam that exists where he is not smiling?

[@TheJamesAJoyce]

More like Shivam and Wheeler’s Got Jokes….amiright?!?!? Wait, where did everyone but Wheeler go?

[@hanschristopherson8056]

Shivam playing cedh is a weird sight for sure

[@casualmagicwithshivambhatt]

it was super weird for me too, lol

[@dracul115]

Missed opportunity to create 100 billion treasures.

[@CodenameJD]

Shivam's maniacal laughter is fun

[@lightfut]

Quite the pod here! Great to see them

[@Halinn]

Thanks for being have, it's great to here you

[@Deer_God]

Thank you for having Wheeler, it was great to have him be here

[@dwpetrak]

When it takes longer to (set up &) shuffle than it does to play... These decks remind me why I eschew cEDH. (I watch occasional videos here because I like the people. )

[@Ymirism]

Spoilers below! Boseiju would've come into play tapped since it's a land, right? So the Eidolon couldn't have been removed this turn and so the finale couldn't have been played, giving the table a turn to deal with things. Still a fun game regardless!

[@imbecillicusrex2117]

boseiju is discarded to the channel ability, not played

[@Ymirism]

@@imbecillicusrex2117 Thrasios scry lets you draw if it's a nonland, lands go into the battlefield tapped. That's what I'm referring to

[@AceRichardson-v6l]

No he channeled boseju

[@Egovinco98]

@@AceRichardson-v6l the way it was narrated, he "drew his deck with thrasios", but Thrasios puts any lands directly into play tapped - so no BSJ in hand possible. There are other ways, like not putting Skyturtle into play as a creature, but insted drawing it with thrasions and channeling it to bounc e the eidolon. (or moonsnare prototype as per linked list in description)

[@AceRichardson-v6l]

@ArmorBreaker88 I did not catch that, yeah thrassios would've put the boseiju into play nice catch

[@Doug464]

I love that Jerry just gets cut off in the outro 😂

[@DerpyLaron]

always sweet to see Shivam and I guess Wheeler is also there

[@rickwood7483]

Feelsbad waiting so long for another video for it to be over so quickly lol

[@BreakRobots]

Spike Shivam is great.

[@adriagarciasarceda3579]

Actually, you can't draw boaeiju with thrasios, you have to find colossal skyturtle (if you run it) and then proceed

[@Natedogg2]

Shivam said elsewhere in the comments that Boseiju was in his hand from turn 1.

[@vincentmccue7481]

*checks video length* "oh noes!" *checks time left after intros* "oh noes!" *thoroughly enjoys the game that was played* "oh yeahs!" Games gotta end.

[@pwoo581]

Super spike shivam at it again

[@price69420]

Really shows the current weakness to stax. They can shut the other players out too much and if you don't have anything to follow up the stax piece you inadvertently kingmaked someone. Also keeping that 3 card hand (land, mana crypt, eidolon) as a first or second 7 going third is just a huge whiff. That said I loved the video, shows how important mulliganing is.

[@lucassloan1960]

he wouldve had to use skyturtle to bounce the idolon because boseju wouldve came in tapped from thrasios

[@lucassloan1960]

or something of the sort to bounce the creature

[@Natedogg2]

Shivam said Boseiju was in his hand from turn 1.

[@alexmcgregor8658]

Like this Comment to Love Magic

[@TripsAhoy]

Shivam...the guy who also blocked me on Twitter. 😂😂😂

[@floydyutiamco]

You advetise the deck box but the link doesn't show any prices or the ability to buy them

[@ajaydassani9931]

Seemed like a good time

[@wanderingaming5805]

Can see what deck wins just from looking at the commanders

[@embergeos]

Wheeler jokes about Leyline of Anticipation but I legit have it included in a deck, and there has been a stack war over removing it. Definitely not an inclusion I would make if I didn’t absolutely love the idea of including a leyline, but it does perform when it is on the table.

[@julianb.f4007]

The only thing is thrasios must put the lands in play so u need either a bounce land or to use prophet of distortion (im not sure on his list)to draw the deck instead of thrasios

[@Natedogg2]

Shivam said that Boseiju was in his hand from turn 1, so no danger from putting it onto the battlefield with Thrasios.

[@snaxmiller]

I'm not sure how Shivam should have won. Skyturtle was on the field from all the Kinnan activations and Thrasios puts Bosejiu onto the battlefield so Idk how he could have removed the Eidolon...

[@AutkastKain]

Mhivam and Sheeler love Wagic

[@nizo6673]

yuriko is offended

[@k0valik]

Loved seeing this game and especially Shivam. Also day 1 of asking Wheeler to play Nekusar so he can truly be the Wheeler at the table.

[@nicholasfalasco8539]

Shivam is good vibes.

[@Rgue-ei7ug]

love to see it

[@j2c695]

JERRY!!!!!!!

[@germanyjones2700]

Gamegenic so metal

[@WayneyMTG]

Well that just happened

[@stormtrooperjeepjk]

We need spank dice next!

[@ThePadOfChads]

Loved the video but just a heads up the Rogsi list you featured is kinda steeped in drama and also not very good. I won’t bore you with the details but the Rogsi lists that are actually doing well in tournaments are spin offs of the iteration legacy content creator Bryant Cook has written the primer for. Actually really surprised you didn’t show his list. Bryant puts up a ton of work and results. Natux’s list is only on the DDB because Natux is a mod there. It is a deck with no positive tournament results.

[@TheSpikeFeeders]

I'm glad you took the time to write out an explanation rather than dunking on me like a lot of others do, but for the purposes of this show I don't think it matters a whole lot. We're not tournament grinders and the decks we choose to play on the show don't resemble the current tournament meta, so tournament results aren't really at the top of my mind when I'm picking decks.

[@DevoidGoat]

Sees kinnan ❤ Watches Video 🎉 Winota too 😂

[@bryankopkin6869]

Hopefully Shivam doesnt bomb the table again!

[@RafaelPanazzo]

But if Boseiju wasn’t in his hand he would be able to channel it as Thrasios would put it into the battlefield tapped

[@Natedogg2]

Shivam said elsewhere that it was in his hand from turn 1.

[@ElDocBruh]

What kind of sicko takes damage on *even*

[@EmoChicken42]

I don’t hate this game, but it felt like it was 50% gameplay and 50% pregame and post game talk

[@hansolo8080]

I love the guests, love the gameplay, but cEDH, man, the games a re too short. :( The intro feels almost like half the video.

[@jwood99999]

thats not the rog list jim is on, where the real list

[@astrograph7875]

You should do more games. Games are short in cedh and you guys only putting one in the vid is criminal.

[@mtgpt7161]

Was excited to see RogSi but then saw it’s the worst version of the deck

[@adrianwakar41]

20 min episode with 8 min game....

[@lunameyers7093]

Meow

[@walrider8073]

People rly enjoy this over "normal" commander?

[@shivambhatt8380]

It's great for the end of the night when you have time for a quick game before the bus comes

[@samquinn2129]

The Boseiju(or Otawara for that matter) enter tapped from the Thrasios, so Shivam shouldn't win that way. Just saying

[@LightBulbPlayz]

Technically you're correct. However he can spin into hullbreaker and tidespout and then as long as he had any castable spell in hand he was golden.

[@samquinn2129]

@@LightBulbPlayz But he cast Basalt already with the Eidolon in play, and I don't think Kinnan can win at instant speed

[@LightBulbPlayz]

The deck runs Reclamation Sage. So just spins kinnan until he hits that and that'll blow up the Eidilon. Even if Sage wasn't in list, he could still have easily bounced it on next players upkeep and then had his whole deck in hand for everyone else's turns.

[@shivambhatt8380]

Boseiju was in hand already

[@krislagreca6152]

not the natux list ☠️

[@nickmitch1734]

Game starts at 6:20 lmao

[@pippofelipe6901]

Off course he is playing brainless kinnan 🤣🤣🤣 ggs guys, should have a g2

[@racewarkingdomsable]

gotta wonder what the point of uploading this episode was, TBH

[@yoshikagekira7661]

Magic is awesome, but i wonder why do they look like they are suffering even before the game started :/

[@casualmagicwithshivambhatt]

we genuinely had the best time!

[@EkkosUwU]

i only came for shivam bc i dont watch most cedh videos now if Kinnan is present, its so boring to see and i want some more variety lol.

[@casualmagicwithshivambhatt]

thanks for indulging me, lol =) I really wanted to try kinnan out!

[@EkkosUwU]

@@casualmagicwithshivambhatt oh don't get me wrong, if given the opportunity to pilot a CEDH kinnan list, or any CEDH list for that matter, I would take it but Its just in most videos and Im already a fan of more weird or gimmicky builds as is so I wanna see more 😂

[@nickmitch1734]

Long ahh intro 💀

[@lucamarsiglia7284]

what a bad game

[@moralessanchezoscarelias6412]

I loved watching Shivam having so much fun! ❤

[@hanfjord]

commenting before watching club

[@Poop_Master_PB_and_J]

What is the interaction that Wheeler keeps blaming the Eidolon for stopping?