SHOCKING CHEATING SCANDAL ON GGPOKER!! (FULL BREAKDOWN)

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[@Sgt.Gamble]

I watch this, and all i can think of is "damn its a good thing a large portion of criminals are dumb" then i started thinking, how many Smart cheaters are staying below radar enough to never get caught, then i think why would i ever want to play online poker again?

[@Fr33co]

what if the smart criminals are the owners? Corruption, there is no transparency in poker sites, just some certifications that proofs nothing. We basically trust on the sites on their good will.

[@insomnyteq]

imagine what someone who isnt an idiot can do.

[@timoruotsalainen303]

I suspected that something like this is going on GG after they banned Sharkscope and made so difficult to follow other players results.

[@nolimitpoker]

Yup blocking usernames in hand histories.

[@ohnoslomo]

GG is sus as fuck. Tell me how someone open shoving EVERY hand in plo for over an hour can win 8/10 hands vs regs who know what hands to call in a spot like that. Joke site

[@YouTubeaidsreal]

​@@ohnoslomobro that's possible lol ain't nobody cheating with an open jam strategy 😂

[@TheBadGuy69]

@@ohnoslomour just a losing player. Womp womp

[@ManicMindTrick]

I thought sharkscope only captured tournament and sit n go stats. I had one of the sickest graphs when I checked myself.

[@kinam1917]

If you played on gg before, you would've felt that some players just folds easily when you hit and calls or raises you when you miss all the time. Very suspicious it was. Also tight player suddenly goes off with some random hands pre and smashes on flop to Crack your aces. Very very wierd at ggpoker when I was playing. There is no way in hell this is 1st and only incident imo.

[@LinusHate]

shut up bro you are just playing face up 😂

[@Naturalmystic25]

True is fucked up

[@Yerbero777]

Yeah, also when you got a good hand like AA, KK board is very wet from the start often ends with 4cards of the same suit or straight to easily crack your hand. GG poker stands for riGGed poker, not good game or any other 😄

[@dennisbeckham64]

You are probably just bad at poker😊

[@DD-rk6kn]

yep i already knew It I even asked a player before if he can see my cards. Most stay low key but their arfe hundreds if not thousands that use this cheating method

[@n1ckname246]

Thanks, Fernando for making this. It is obvious hype here in the comment section. I have played on GG for around 3 years now (PLO 200, 500, 1K and PLO 5 in the same limits). I'm an active member of PLO Mastermind. I am absolutely not the greatest player of all time, but somehow I'm a winning player in Poker Stars for about 3M Hands, but in GG for about 1M hand, I'm a solid losing player. It's not really hard to see how games in GG look really soft and there are a lot of weak/fun players, and it has to be really easy to beat these games with a good solid/tight strategy (considering the highest rake). But this just not happening. The only reason I still play on GG, is because I make some money from rakeback, daily promotion etc. I am pretty sure that the game is somehow not fair. But I can't prove anything. The way that GG handling this case is very disturbing. I'm sure this is not an isolated case and many more smarter ones haven't been discovered. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts with us.

[@JNandezPoker]

Thank you for sharing this.

[@abstract1603]

Y wast yr time and yr life there bro give up that crappie site

[@maybe-xh8il]

I always played ipoker platform. Annfetamine ipoker and thumbitin ipoker are my names for sharkscope... winning player.... I opened a account on gg ANN FETAMINE... please if you have a minute spare check those 3 out on sharkscope you would never believe its the same person my gg account is a solid nose dive the others only go up... its so so blatant that things are not mathematically correct on gg

[@colinwichman1084]

How often does this happen with smarter cheaters that go undetected

[@mmfb88]

Yep if you are smart you can win 6 bb100 and win millions and never get caught

[@GrizzlyAdams101]

I had my suspicions on GGpoker I made a post on Reddit about it. I kept on getting the same guy in spin and gos. He would sit out until he had a big blind, then join back at 1BB EVERYTIME! Then he would go all in and just win every hand, the first time I thought just a fluke, but then it happened 3 more times in the same session. It was like he just wanted to be a troll because he knew he’d win anyways.

[@AcidOllie]

God the more I watch Robbie and Garrett the more convinced I am that she cheated. It's so obvious it's painful to watch.

[@gbpg2016]

Yeah, hilarious she said I thought you had ace high and yet she still called his all in with Jack high. LOL

[@bootsie5396]

I just don't get how they don't have a system already in place that would detect if someone was winning massive bb/100. if the users of gg (who have much less data) were the ones who had to blow the whistle on this then I can only imagine what else is going on. definitely a lot of rta

[@ohnoslomo]

This. If the players hadn't taken upon themselves to find the proof who knows how long this guy would've continued.

[@kas_v2]

They do. They know every winrate.

[@user-vw7wh4zd1v]

GGPoker knew about this for a long time. Watch what will come out in the coming days. They should be very worried.

[@mystro5050]

If this can happen on GG imagine what could be happening on sites like ACR 😳

[@theculturewatch2414]

I’m 99% sure it is happening on ACR. I’ve seen ridiculous hands that only make sense if you know the cards. This happens vs 1-2 specific players and I’m terrorizing the rest of the table. Go on tilt and then get beat up.

[@PatrickS.Tomlinson]

nah ur just a fish@@theculturewatch2414

[@laplace2282]

Pretty sure. Yesterday i was playing against a guy in nl25 with a VIP 98 with more than 1000bb 😂😂. Only losing small pots and winning the big ones 😂😂

[@Paul_pp]

Or Ignition/Bovada where every player is random and no hand histories

[@kylecannarile7161]

On a side note, love those bluff-shoves from his opponents. Definitely should've worked lol

[@Demondoink1]

Haha yeah you have to respect some of those plays. I like to bluff, but I wouldn't be finding most of these plays- the K9hh double float in to river jam was pretty hilarious tbh.

[@YouTubeaidsreal]

Yea those poor dudes are analyzing their play wondering where they fucked up because this dude seen their cards most likely 😂

[@willemreker5770]

Thanks for adding Robbi in showing the hands. Still one of the strangest hands I ever saw in a live game. No smoking gun, but feels simular. If she cheated, it just shows cheaters arent always the smartest for the long-term. This situation seems like they were testing. If they are smart enough to get this done and know thw basics of poker, they will know what will be flagged by other players.

[@relaxationmeditationsleep2934]

Robbie didn't cheat!

[@tt121tt]

She deffo cheated 😂😂 no ifs about it

[@An00bisY00tubis]

The thing with the Robbi hand is the board texture was very different.

[@ohnoslomo]

How do you come to that conclusion?​@@relaxationmeditationsleep2934

[@88mphDrBrown]

The Robbi hand is borderline meaningless, it's one single hand. There just isn't enough play or information to know with a high degree of certainty. If they were cheating they implemented just about the worst strategy humanly possible, especially with one bullet.

[@captainclutch8463]

even just seeing pot equity during flop turn in river would make sense as to why they were playing over half the hands to see more equity post flop

[@user-ei9jc2qq2r]

+10 BB/100 on PS, -6 BB/100 on GG. It cannot be rake and/or variance only. I have seen this kind of play several times, specially with aggro Russian players.

[@jacopo-lh4zn]

And from Brazil and China. We all see the same fake accounts

[@omarcampospalma]

I live in CR, I used to work for most of on line poker sites... Only one of them was ok with having in-house super-users...another was caught like Doug said, 15 years ago. I wonder if GG is doing the same on a big scale, like people working from Home in UK or RUSSIA, Croatia, Montenegro..etc...this could be anywhere with a VPN, but broooo what the actual fuck, this could be bots programmed to be super-users.

[@touchdgrassonce]

Any an attempt to strengthen the security of a specific piece of software can be seen as securing a walled city from all invaders; including each and every rat capable of burrowing through each seemingly benign weakness on the exterior surface of the walls that we who live within the walls are unlikely to notice.

[@user-zw7zf3rs1o]

That is such bullshit statement from GG! They come with such a kindergarten response, then the money doesn't add up so unprofessional!Also we thank the community who are 99% winning regulars but in fact they are doing everything possible if you are a winning player to remove you from their site!Farfetch acusation of bumhunting to numerous players who are winning the mega rake the rakeback only God knows how their system works.This site continues to amaze and not in a good way.But people are starting to figure things out and ultimately poker will exist with and without this company.

[@wyzone7326]

How does the $ not add up. Who says he didn’t cheat people out of $29k? Just because his profit is $15k doesn’t mean he didn’t cheat people out of more and lose some as we see in some of the examples.

[@JNandezPoker]

He also won a tournament for 47k and got 10th in a 1k tournament.

[@ajacinth]

Why would the all-in equity odds percentage be broadcast to the client side prior to the hand reveal any way? It would appear that this is intentionally written into the code. That's scary. So GG just blocked this single thumbs up thumbs down access vector to that information but didn't remove the that part of the code that sends the all-in equity to begin with. So to me, they didn't really fix the actual issue.

[@JNandezPoker]

Good point. I agree the backend code needs to be completely redesigned.

[@user-vw7wh4zd1v]

Paul Burke was in Marketing for Full Tilt poker. What happened to Full Tilt Poker again? Then he started in marketing for GG Poker, before being promoted to Head of PR, then elevated to MD. I can tell you that is not the normal route for an MD. PR to MD? Nah. Dodge city.

[@ohnoslomo]

Do you think it's possible US pulled out partly because, among other reasons, they knew shit like this was going on but didn't want to blow the whistle and destroy online poker for good. If they allowed US to stay then the average american would eventually find this out and destroy pokers rep for good. This way the average joe that never uses 2+2 etc isn't clued up to situations like this so when it finally comes back to US these companies will still make bank regardless of the fallout from the rest of the world. Something not quite right with the whole situation around online poker in the US.

[@chanb9040]

I got a player in my pool on partypoker who 3.5xs or limps and vpips well above 50%. But he's a winning player according to Sharkscope. I wonder if he's got something similar.

[@EvertfromNederland]

Here's a theory. Say I want to smuggle 10kg of Coke across a border, but I know that customs will for sure find it if I put ten kg in a suitcase on one person. So what do I do? I divide it. Not across 2 or 3 persons, but on way more, say ten. And here's the kicker. I make sure of those 10 people at least one is really obvious and he gets caught. If I repeat this process a couple of times, at a certain point, customs will think the signals of the ones that get caught are the signals they should be looking out for. So now I have all agents looking for signs that I know the real smugglers won't convey thus making sure the 10K gets across safely at the measly cost of a ringer with only half a kilo or even less. Edit: So what I'm saying is; MoneyTaker69 could be the ringer that distracts the security agents with false signals, leaving the rest of the group unnoticed.

[@JNandezPoker]

Interesting theory.

[@johnkimble2258]

My guess is this account was made just to poke fun at GGpoker as the hackers knew thier exploits had been more or less patched, and before long thier modified client would not work either. Hence the blatent cheating and username. The real question is how many times this exploit was used properly and how long has this been going on. I bet they have stolen a whole lot more than 30k.

[@JNandezPoker]

Seems plausible

[@roy-aishaworldoftanksconso9754]

Friend, at 93% playing your hands, you can see the flops and play from there. Limping is pimping. After the flop, that is when you see the mistakes of AK holders. And by the way, where are the no rebuy option tournaments?

[@abruzi88]

@Fernando Hello!What is your opinion about clubGG are they the same owners?Miracles happen there and somehow I have the feeling that people are shy to make a topic or ask questions..😒

[@JNandezPoker]

To my knowledge, it's the same company.

[@jacopo-lh4zn]

I just saw that a player complained about a SuperUser in the chat, and rightly so. The player/bot with no history "SniperJack" is playing with complete information. The scandals surrounding GGpoker and SuperUser just won't stop. ✋✋

[@RB-ux4jg]

online poker is a scam

[@jasontyler2185]

It’s a scapegoat for GG.

[@staffanbergholm]

I think the most interesting part is that the player didnt care, wanted or didnt know he/she would get caught. The name indicates he/she wanted to get caught and get the fame. But you must ask yourself how long you would wait until you reveal yourself like this. How long did this go on, how many accounts has been used, has this client been sold on the black marketetc. This is more probably than not bigger than this account alone and there is no incentive for GG to get to the bottom of it

[@JNandezPoker]

It seems likely to me that this is bigger than just this one account.

[@EvertfromNederland]

You know, everybody talks about how bad Robbi's hand was, but when she leans over the table we can clearly see she has a big pair.

[@abody499]

I still think there's a significant possibility that they just didn't understand poker that well and didn't realise that their unconventional moves would easily be flagged, rather than some kind of attempt to expose the vulnerability and themselves. [edit: to be clear, I mean a hacker who doesn't know poker, not an innocent situation]

[@Demondoink1]

Yeah exactly. If you take a complete beginner and try to get him to play 'reasonable' poker (even if he knows the equities etc) he will have no clue how to play. I remember x calling a J high gut shot on the turn (on something like Q98x) the first time I ever played at the casino. These sorts of plays look reasonable to a beginner.

[@MammiPoppins]

I mean if ur smart/lucky enough to find this glitch I would imagine you are smart enough to watch 2 videos about how poker works 😢

[@abody499]

​ @MammiPoppins you can understand how to play poker yet still have little awareness of what would get you caught cheating. I know this chic who plays high stakes and this one time she called a 3bet shove all in on the turn with J high no draw for 5.5x her raise when her opponent was holding 78s with a combo draw. The river bricked out and when she tabled the J high it was shortly after that it started to become apparent to her that everyone instantly knew she was cheating. Not saying she's the smartest cookie, but she does have a double degree in law and philosophy.

[@aidenguo5580]

7:36 Putting in the Garrett clip is HILARIOUS.

[@omerlaleli]

This guy definitely wanted to make a statement and so wanted to be caught. Assuming that he is a very smart person he could continue to cheat without going any showdown and not showing any holding in cash games. I dont know what it is but guess he had other motives than money

[@Javis586]

Did you not listen literally at all? The exploit is he could only see all-in equity. All-in was mandatory. He couldn't see their cards, just the equities.

[@omerlaleli]

@@Javis586 He can see %0 vs. %100 at the river or he can see %90 vs. %10 with a very weak hand on flop-turn and then he shoves and doesnt show any hand. U r not that smart u would also get caught 😂😂

[@poker_]

Online poker will never be safe, especially unregulated sites like betonline and ACR!

[@vasildyulgerov795]

Similar/Or Same thing is going on at plo 200/500. I played around 200k hands there to be able to claim that with absolute certainty. I wrote an email to GG sending evidence of very suspicious hands and stats of players ( basically half of the pool is 40/20/25 guys ). Anyone in this pool here that shares this view ?

[@CourageOfMyConvictions]

My experience from slightly lower PLO is just fish who go on insane heaters where it seems inevitable that certain players will lose to them. Been suspicious of their BBJ system as well. Not the same issues at all, so take that with a grain of salt.

[@JNandezPoker]

Can you share any screennames that you think are suspicious ?

[@vasildyulgerov795]

@@JNandezPoker I will but I think they are working in a group creating new ones constantly because those are "the fish" accounts with the most crazy stats and you would think they are just fish and not suspect them for a while. And then there are some regs with lower 3 bet but still not normal - like 16+. They work together imo. Below I will share screennames with stats at the time of the screenshot but as I said they are probably replaced with new ones. Fish - pinkp88nter (34/27/42 - 333 hands) , DolUmBerlst (29/26/43 - 565 hands) , Ching-Ha (23/18/50 - 412 hands) , bingula (20/12/26 - 379 hands) , coco555 , Acedimond (last 2 I have no screenshots of but there were in the same ballpark); Regs I will say only Back2Bak! (23/20/18 - 2k hands) because he is the most obvious imo and don't want to risk to throw someone under the bus without being sure. But he is playing always, winning the leaderboard or being second every day last couple of weeks while sometimes playing 4 tables 100 zoom as well so 8 tables zoom in total the whole day with 18 to up to 30% 3bet at times. Also the last hand I played in that pool is vs him that left no doubt what was going on ( I can share it somehow amongst other hands ) Those are just couple of examples because I only started documenting this the last week or so because before that I was giving the benefit of a doubt that I might be paranoid and this might be variance. But if I was to take screenshots just 1 more week I would have a lot more. Still I have hands that I can share and some more screennames of "fish" with 30% 3bet if you are interested. Also all of the "fish" mentioned above are gone already and probably replaced by new ones. TLDR: Screennames are in the middle paragraph I can dig through screenshots for more I have screenshots of shady hands that I can share if you want

[@the3rdtruth211]

What if it was an actual hacker group/individual that was the super user with limited poker knowledge that was cheating? Makes more sense for that to be the case, as many have pointed out that even a moderately skilled losing poker player would realise this cheating strategy is too damn obvious and will lead to being caught.

[@timoriato5342]

It's just a gg bot

[@teeraw4575]

Whats also crazy to me is plenty of highstakes regs were still happily playing nl 10k+ while knowing gg security was compromised

[@vojtechmatulik1292]

They know who they play against usually

[@erikeriksson6372]

reminds me of the superuser in the old absolutepoker days.. if i was superuser id just play my normal 22/19 and seattle for 10bb/100 to not raise suspicion

[@charleswaldon8362]

I'm not sure if I can get down with the understanding of vpip..

[@antaresvega2037]

GG Poker itself is a scam! What surprise me the most is the fact that people are so naive and can't see how bad and unfair gg poker is

[@rolexer]

I'm not shocked and I can tell you this. It is not the only one on the site.

[@Raskolnikov32]

If there was a hack, he won't have been the first to find it. Imagine how steamed those who played it smart must be right now for having their spot blown. Good (if they exist).

[@petrandreev2418]

Yeahh situation looks very similar with Robbie and Garret hackers could get equity calculations, it's not very simple module to make calculation, so in that live poker situations hackers could catch information about calculations about equity of hands

[@JNandezPoker]

Interesting take.

[@callemity9104]

Now i'm gonna be paranoid every time some1 makes strange call vs me in PLO. Damn even today i had a hand when a "grinder" with 8k hands in session call with 7 high flush vs my 120bb shove with nut blockers on a paired board. Maybe i just played it obvious, but still it's gonna make me suspicious now.

[@paulmitchell6485]

I'll occasionally call shit like that against big raises when I start to fall asleep

[@callemity9104]

@@paulmitchell6485 i know, but now it's gonna make me suspicious every time

[@effortlessawareness8778]

any chance this guy was just on a sun run good run? 8900 hands not enough to drtetmine that its a superuser maybe ggpoker has some more intel that they won’t release

[@Frank.Gh1968]

No wonder why we get busted in unbelievable spots

[@jacksykes3879]

are there any good apps that anybody recommends to play poker with real money ?

[@babyfacebowers01]

being smart enough to be a hacker does not instantly make you a smart poker player. It takes years to learn the intricate details of playing high level poker when hackers coordinate with highly skilled poker players on very subtle ways to cheat without obvious evidence, which is most likely already happening at every online poker site, then what? GG to GG

[@wyzone7326]

You don’t need to know how to play when you can read your equity vs the opponents

[@babyfacebowers01]

@@wyzone7326 if you don't want to get caught it matters, that was the whole point, ffs smh

[@timsam3688]

Everething is simple- GG is superuser itself!

[@anttiovaskainen1458]

Dont keep big money on that site. If you find one this bad cheater, there is more cheaters and most likely there still is. When this goes public, how Manu wants to take money out. Crazy how gg is handling this. All withdraws should paused and they should check all data from all players.

[@Flux881]

Thanks JNandez for making it public even though you're an amabassador. Not something everyone would do

[@jackieparul]

Don’t think he is an ambassador anymore

[@JNandezPoker]

I am not an ambassador for ggpoker anymore. And I think we can blame any active ambassadors for not speaking up. They are hired to represent the interests of the company. Speaking against the company is possibly against the contractual terms too.

[@lawrencelevine2447]

@@JNandezPokeru mean CANNOT, right?

[@lukefarley-fc7yj]

Dude that background beat/music in the beginning 😢

[@oliverjacobson3371]

I once played a stud tournament and i played basically every hand and won the tournament. It was all exploitation, but like halfway through the toury, action stopped and my account was under review. It was resolved quickly, but it was hilarious people thoufht i was cheating in a $10 stud tourny.

[@flexmemes1]

I once won a stud8 tournament. With absolutley no clue how to actually play it at the time😂

[@ftterguf6735]

Wasn’t Adobe Air discontinued years ago?

[@JNandezPoker]

Think so, someone commented that on 2+2... discontinued in 2020

[@paullampl1]

I just don't understand why the player would limit themselves to lower stakes. If you truly had access to other players cards wouldn't you want to just fire the highest stakes cash games/tournaments and get out with piles of money before anyone notices?

[@naswiipp]

They perceived that list stakes players are stupid.

[@taav2518]

Well, if some of these hands were played by a bot, we all know that bots don't know about being too obvious, they just follow instructions, if the equity is x do it, if it is y do that, maybe those un- common hands were played by the bot while the guy was sleeping or in the toilet!

[@lucasdesiqueira6122]

Makes total sense

[@ACougarHunter]

When you were playing out the J2 off vs 54 clubs, I was thinking it was eerily similar to the Robbi/Garrett hand. And then you posted the clip. This hack isn’t very sophisticated and not very difficult either. A 14 year old with a basic understanding of Kali Linux could probably execute this.

[@gappuma7883]

How can you say playing 52% is a losing strategy? Doesn't it depend on the strategy?

[@JNandezPoker]

52% VPIP is such a limiting factor in your strategy, that you can't win long-term, even if you're worldclass postflop.

[@ro55onero]

For me it seems as internal conflict in hacker group where the guy just showed up to break the game for others inside group. I bet this was exploited for months or even years with some bad regs who can simulate legit play. Moreover I'm pretty sure that problem is still in protocol rather than client glitch, this guy can't win 90bb/100 based on on equity, you should know the river card to be sure you win

[@thanhtung-uf8vj]

You are right, he must have known in advance the cards that would be dealt

[@wyzone7326]

Exactly what I said. Maybe he was cheating the cheaters based on some of those bluffs against him lol.

[@naswiipp]

If you think you are not being cheated online than you deserve to be cheated playing online poker

[@Naturalmystic25]

I been scammed big time online.

[@robertwolff3221]

Who ever did this is just testing GG's response. Next time they will make adjustments.

[@HouseRemixesHungary]

Something strange just came into my mind, which has not been mentioned in the comments. What if this all was organized by the competition to ruin the 'reputation' of GG?

[@roy-aishaworldoftanksconso9754]

Send out patch, that prevents all previous versions from syncing with the host.

[@petruungur]

It is easy to give the money back to the cash game players, but how about the ones who played the tournament that he won? He won 47.000$, how can you calculate who should have won that tournament and recompensate it?

[@frankdevries5739]

How many don't get caught. If you are not that greedy you can play there for years. I am sure this is happening,

[@letsinvestigateit]

Think if there wasn't smart hand and couldn't be tracked. A few players on global poker are very fishy...

[@DannieJensen]

Scary part is that if the hacker wasn't so greedy he could've have gotten away with it.

[@duckduckov4362]

One day the whole truth about online poker will be revealed. it will be interesting to look at the people who poured their lives into this trash heap

[@alexandersnow5867]

I’ve had a larger than expected number of hands against me like these (I’m not exaggerating). I play on bovada and I shook these off as part of an unlucky swing. However, knowing this is possible really makes me question whether some out there are doing this without leaving a trace noticeable enough. Especially on less popular sites. I’ve felt unmotivated to play online and this makes my frustration seem somewhat warranted. again not saying I’m not just bad/experiencing downswing but after a while of being called with nonsense you get suspicious.

[@burkhartlaw1]

If you think you’re getting cheated on a smaller site, you probably are.

[@godloves9163]

I see multiple players be a 60+ VPIP in cash and tournaments and constantly winning and being chip lead or close to it. It’s sickening.

[@skullduggery3377]

They always have avatars like 'cheater 2023' or something like that.

[@jasonreuvers2189]

Moneytaker is the nephew of Moneymaker. Both great lads ❤

[@jedongbaguio8845]

Feels stupid now when someone claims "online poker is not rigged" lols... ive been playing poker for a year before poker black friday... I can say, back then, poker was more legitmate, after that it seems operators/players stopped caring for fair games and just go on and grabbed what they can... Plays that make no sense are common...Online poker is rigged either by the operator or your playing against people who see your cards or know what cards are coming...

[@jasontyler2185]

This type of play has occurred repeatedly on GG all over the world. It’s weird the ONE that is called out is a security hacking company hired (probably) by GG itself. Is this to cover up all the other blatant cheating??? Also GG Ontario still has the “thumbs up/down” emotes which are the supposed door in!?!? No players on GG Ontario have been warned and the “strange” play and runouts still continue!! The government must step in.

[@JNandezPoker]

I don't see how positioning a cheater would help gg with covering up other cheaters. The Ontario stuff is concerning.

[@jbca]

I found similar (less severe) issues last year, and GG was taking forever to address it so I contacted Ontario’s gambling regulator under whom they are licensed. (I found that players hole cards were exposed as soon as a hand was over, and every players full name was exposed, and every players private notes were exposed.) I wanted them to push GG to do a proper security audit. The regulator told me they didn’t care. These platforms are terrible and nobody is looking out for the players.

[@Da1337DoOD]

Makes you think about all the times some idiot min raised you on the turn with some bullshit and actually won, doesn't it?

[@roy-aishaworldoftanksconso9754]

You know, all things are possible. Thus also is it possible that one understands the GGpoker AI. I myself see plenty of hands that win, but I folded coz of whatever. Point is, it's not unimaginable that one gets a feeling for this. As I see more straights than trips.

[@wendellwinters4811]

Class action lawsuits!!! Contact legal counsel they will do the rest! This is sad…every angle of poker is corrupted live…Wesley Fei marked card live scam to the GG manipulated gameplay!! Some of same players in that Wesley Fei live marked card scam hold influential positions with GG poker!!

[@brilliantbeaches5389]

I stopped playing online. Not because of superusers, but because on GG you can have a great winrate, but if you don't play 5 hours a day, there's not much money to be made. I'll rather play in my soft casino game, especially since my casino offers a cash game league, where it's easy to finish in the money, so i basically don't pay any rake and i play against 2 fishes at least.

[@LinusHate]

i stopped playing on gg just cause of the rake, its really frustrating looking at the GG graph and seeing that basically 70% of it is actually rake it is crazy. And they lie about the cap of rake on NL200 R and C, they say is 3 bb 6 $ but its actually 9$ thats absolutely insane so i dont think it is worth it anymore there are other regulared sites with many more fishes ad lower rake, which i wont mention cause i dont want regs pilling up there.

[@DamnDirtyIrish]

ALL online poker is rigged. All online anything is rigged.

[@jman2k0]

Investigate club Wpt as well. Players calling down bluffs with bottom pair on dangerous boards. Fishy AF

[@F0rtysxity]

What is shocking about this is that they were cheating 200NL. I always thought I was safe there. :/

[@abody499]

200nl seems right around where it would be perfect - large player pool, not as exposed. Trying to do that at the nosebleed stakes would be too obvious.

[@blantant]

You are. This cheater was a rare type of idiot. No idea what his motive was but it sure wasn't to maximize $

[@adammartin2846]

Black Friday II. GG Poker is definitely behind this.

[@christophermanning6146]

Which scammers do we not know about?

[@oscar-br1lp]

Of will let us know what the hackers can see the cards of course they will do it

[@FirstHolyGrandsonofHeaven926]

GG keeps getting caught cheating. The stakeholders need to be held accountable. 😊

[@bogipepper]

Much thanks.

[@franssjoman9212]

He name himself moneytaker, he wanna show us - i do not belive shit when it comes down to GG. They do what ever they want, this guy prob just wanna show the world how easy it is. That you have some fucking package that you can look into so you can see your own EQ before should not even be possible for GG, it should be unknow data. I mean - i smell something here. And i don't like it.

[@franssjoman9212]

ALSO : Like the reaction when the president of GG get the biggest mystery bounty(for anyone playing live poker and know some tells, thats not the face). Like this. The most profit for GG is to have guys rake, no money out from the site - if you have your VIP's you know can put 20.000$ every month why not let them have a slight edge in the tournaments or against players who are not big boys rakegame. I use to play with a friend who is a VIP, and man - i will not give names but this account his fucking hot - i can pay to just be able to play some high stakes on it becuse yeah - i already had bad belives in this shit.

[@namaman]

Absolutely unbelievable

[@masipequa1]

I think it’s inside job, the site has always been sketchy. Aren’t they tied to that scam casino chumba?

[@justinthomas27]

The hacker just had a bot playing.. 😂

[@liamo4287]

Their are lots of people using these hacks. If this guy wasn't so prolific in trying to win so many pots in the most ridiculous ways, he would still be getting away with it. Lots of people have been doing this since the dawn of online poker

[@JS-tm1gq]

It's ALWAYS the jack high hero. It's what lit up potripper, what lit up that botox chick v g-man, and whats lit up this dude as well.

[@kinordnave]

Thats extremally bad explainned by GGPoker. In a Client/Server archtecture the information that is sended from the server to the clients are just the players names, stacks, timeout, the communitary cards and the own player cards... if the information about the opponent cards is not sended to all the table players, how this guy could hack a client information that hi didn't received? GgPoker is fully of bots doing money and this user was just another bot badly configured....

[@sultankhair7017]

there is no community ... if it was not for players and their incentive to protect their own money this would have went on undetected ... people who want to sell u the community story have a product they are selling ... in poker and esp. online poker if it goes south your on your own ... no one from the community will care for you ... be smart

[@JNandezPoker]

I mean I see your point, it's each for their own in poker. However in this case, the cheater got detected by a poker player or group of and brought forward to all other players. Isn't that a community?

[@sultankhair7017]

Honestly, I do not think It can be called a community because everyone is there to exploit each other for their money It is fine as long as we just clearly see it for what it is ,,, the main reason they came public is their own self-interest first I think ... the same community members called for higher rake, colluded, ghosted, etc. but once they sell something it becomes a community @@JNandezPoker

[@abody499]

​ @JNandezPoker I suspect it's an individualist trying to disparage the idea of a community. Remember Thatcher's infamous "Sermon on the Mound" in which she claimed, "there's no such thing as society" - same thing.

[@sultankhair7017]

btw I know Jnandez in real life and I was not implying he was trying to sell in all honesty I think his work and coaching are of extreme value-added and he really cares about what he does. You can see it in his work ethic. However, I am talking from experience in poker for many years. No one paid me back when Full Flush Poker disappeared. We had to contact the dept of Justice after few years after the black Friday incident to get full tilt or stars money and they didn't help or do anything. Certain sites will tell you that you have been cheated and refund you $11.89 for example with no explanation but no one knows how much value u actually lost, so for those reasons I do not believe there is a community in poker but if you do good for you. @@abody499

[@FriendsForFriends666]

​@@JNandezPokerlet's say that I personally remember several people bringing forward several occasions of collusion in few sites and got the "you're just bad and losing at poker" response from the community. Like it's normal to have 16 players from Brazil out of the 18 left in a 2k people tourney and they overcall 40bb shoves with 93o, k2o etc. No, there's no poker community. There are groups in that community who split winnings at tables, cheat each other while pretending to be your friends, bring marked decks in friendly home games, ghosting each other and multi account, should i keep going? What did the community do about Chris fucken Ferguson when that bastard came back? Nothing. Look bonomo walk around with no problem and play high stakes. Fuck that and fuck the community. It always victims who bring the truth forward. After spending more money and time than the money and time they have been already cheated from. Not the community. Victims bro.

[@mmfb88]

Got Robbie vibes once I saw the first hand lol

[@zupazjeza5880]

like always people are so greedy. This guy stumbple upon a gold mina and f*ckt it up, if he went for delay gratificiation, he could just play mtt and pick his spots jus corectly callin shoves ar making alin blufs, no he went for quick way inducing bluf shaves alin an calling with underpair or a hight peope are so layzy

[@Arashhh85]

The first part of your reasoning is not correct. You can play 50% vpip and be a winning player “if” you choose the games in which other players also have high vpip.

[@JNandezPoker]

That's true. But obviously not the case in the environment MoneyTaker has played in.

[@wchen2340]

nice pr bullsh1t from gg at 17.45. "client side data leak". is that thing doing p2p? id start off by removing the code in the server message broker to disrupt propagation of card/equity data. then go ahead and delete the rest of the code. ...and rewrite in rust^^

[@mrnikoleta18]

Absolutly agreed,that cheater want to be detected