Shocking midair collision and miracle landing!

Aviation Accident Final Report - National Transportation Safety Board: app.ntsb.gov/pdf
Investigation Docket - National Transportation Safety Board: dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms
registry.faa.gov/N8115Q
Location: Chandler, AZ
Accident Number: WPR13LA004A
Date & Time: 10/05/2012, 1407 MST
Registration: N8115Q
Aircraft: PIPER PA-28-161
Aircraft Damage: Substantial
Defining Event: Midair collision
Injuries:2 None
Flight Conducted Under: Part 91
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[@6yjjk]

Cherokee on scene above the helicopter starts descending, sounds like a great way to have a second mid-air.

[@Flight_Follower]

Thats what i thought while working on the video

[@RobertsWorkbench2023]

Yeah, great comms by 044. "Hey, by the way, we've dropped down really close to the helicopter from above, just wanted to let you know" 🤦

[@koolaid203]

After seeing those images I am shocked, I have nearly 100 hours in a Warrior and I’m just stunned that even with half of its right wing missing and an aileron gone the pilot was able to land the aircraft and the plane itself didn’t suffer a catastrophic airframe failure

[@questioneverything6489]

Make foam board aircrafts, and you would be surprised what would fly

[@sarahlachman1349]

Its not a Boeing.

[@billk8579]

In 1970 while stationed at Webb AFB in Big Spring, TX a T-37 from another training base had a mid air collision with a twin engine prop plane. The twin engine plane was conducting an aerial survey. The T-37 passed head on under the twin. The T-37 canopy was broken apparently by the nose wheel of the prop plane. The T-37 landed safely. The prop plane control panel was shoved back against the pilots. The pilots were able use their legs to push the control panel forward enough so the yoke had some authority and also landed safely. There was enough luck for a life time.

[@MrTruckerf]

Holy cow that is a cool story!

[@yamkaw346]

Hey I just landed for fuel at the old Webb AFB in big spring earlier today, small world.

[@AVMamfortas]

First rate ATC. Good traffic directions and calls. Fine helping pilots. All very professional

[@hotsoup1001]

Interesting teaching moment for the student pilots in the search aircraft.

[@terrallputnam7979]

This is a great example of keeping your head up and out of the cockpit. I was concerned about pilots having eyes glued to the iPad.

[@markrix]

Someones angel filled in for that wing,.amazing professionalism w everyone

[@coriscotupi]

Someone should break the news to the instructors that while their students are flying VFR & practicing IFR under the hood, they (the instructors) should be specially keen looking out for traffic, as theirs are the only pair of eyes in the airplane looking at the outside. Flying VFR with all eyes staring at instruments is asking for trouble.

[@waynef.8158]

Same place a heli and plane had a mid air in 2021. Glad these folks made it back to the ground, safely. Might be time to look at this area for excessive congestion and practices.

[@8literbeater]

Sort of...

[@giftofthewild6665]

He was really flying on a wing and a prayer, and managed to land it somehow 😮

[@justplanefred]

good to see a video with a mostly positive outcome despite what was going on...

[@glsracer]

That's the luckiest Piper pilot ever. Those things lose a wing or horizontal stabilizer if you breathe on it wrong.

[@n085fs]

"Collision Aircrfats" - I knew this empennage made my butt look big.

[@lawrencemartin1113]

Well, so glad that seemed to work out well for all involved!! That must have been one scary ride back to the ground. Incredible piloting by the look of the damage.

[@FlyingCameraGuy]

It's hard to search when you are busy looking for traffic.

[@EJ-74]

Yep, traffic is priority

[@terrancestodolka4829]

Great teamwork... Yet all parties still have to be careful... Yet the good news that the aircraft both were able to make it safe to the ground....

[@EJ-74]

Its amazing how planes can still fly missing part of the wing, I learned this building and flying RC planes, With enough thrust and the correct CG you can make pretty much anything fly, lol.

[@AZWildk4t]

I live 5 miles south of KCHD and this is the first I’ve heard of this incident that happened in 2012. Lots of planes and helicopters fly south to the Gila River Reservation for practice. Most days i have 15-20 helicopters flying over my house heading to reservation

[@networkedperson]

The "Accident Final Report " link provided in the description is a broken link.

[@robertbandusky9565]

Lucky folks! Thank God🙏🏻

[@phillipzx3754]

Do you also thank your God when everyone dies?

[@computeraisle]

When I am safety pilot for friends practicing IFR approaches, my head is looking out 95%of the time - the ADSB won't show them all, and we have a busy VOR over here (KBUM)

[@theginjaninja9768]

How did that plane land missing an aileron. Crazy

[@alanrichardson1672]

Aircraft will fly just fine with one aileron, no aileron at a push!

[@Hot1765]

Oct 5,2012 this happened and posted 4 hours ago

[@Yosetime]

So what? Is there a rule that channel owners have to post in real time or something? Geez. You don't own the place. If someone wants to put together a historical event, they can. In fact, they can post anything they want on their own channel. If you want today's incidents, watch a news channel. Why waste your time with a comment like that? Entitled!

[@rogerrogerorger]

The internet was slow 😊

[@jamesmyers7066]

He was waiting for starlink to come online

[@MrTruckerf]

@@jamesmyers7066 Haha!

[@alanrichardson1672]

What is a suggested heading, never heard of that in the uk?

[@8literbeater]

Some controllers are not qualified nor required to be qualified to assign vectors depending on the airspace they're working and the equipment available. Because of that they can only make suggestions. In addition to that, the area where they had the collision and where they were looking for downed airplanes was well outside of the class D airspace that the tower controllers handle for that airport. (It's a 4 nm radius.)

[@pilotngb]

Know the pilots involved in 15Q. Situation handled very well by all involved.

[@douglasthompson2740]

The question left unanswered is what happened to the aircraft that smacked that wing????

[@ElementofKindness]

Both collision aircraft are shown throughout the video on the left.

[@8literbeater]

It landed on the east side of the north test track.

[@Mark-pp7jy]

The plural of "aircraft" is "aircraft".

[@AvgDude]

Oh deer.

[@marcston]

@@AvgDude kinda weird though, in other languages it changes if plural (no and I didn;t check all language(s) ;)

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Amazing. I'm a retired Air Force officer, and I didn't realise this. I don't think many AF crew members are aware of this. I did look it up, and you are right. Kudos to you, Sir ❤

[@Flight_Follower]

Thanks! Learnt something new today

[@richardconstantine6843]

Wow! This amazing video of two planes surviving a midair collision and you choose to comment on someone’s diction. You must be a joy to be around.

[@gavinboot4810]

I can understand how it could fly at speed,,but how could it not stall landing..??..

[@colintett6872]

It’s aircraft, not aircrfats!

[@jopool5840]

Easy to happen, wing in between eyes/sight of things underneath.

[@askiff1415]

This was over 10years ago

[@8literbeater]

Your power of observation is unsurpassed.

[@joycedudzinski9415]

Getting a 404 error looking for final report.

[@TheMcIke]

From 2012: here’s the final report - data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/85265/pdf

[@Flight_Follower]

www.kathrynsreport.com/2012/10/piper-pa-28-161-n8115q-two-planes-clip.html

[@CAROLUSPRIMA]

@@Flight_FollowerThanks.

[@user-tm6nq3ou1v]

A hack saw and some duct tape and you got a clip wing bonanza Reno air racer

[@ssnerd583]

need more motor....lol

[@AtomicTankGirl]

"Aircrfats" lol

[@Flight_Follower]

Sorry about that

[@prussiaaero1802]

Typical Australian - laid back approach calling a mayday, no biggie.

[@MeppyMan]

Yeah and he said “jeez” not Jesus 😂

[@marcston]

Another great video. I used to fly in and out of Lakeland and MZeroA has a great video on how to talk to ATC at busy time, Sun and Fun. I was there as well. The only thing he said and I agree completely that getting Flight Following is better than Cold Calls as the Tower than expects you! Hope you don't mind me posting this kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3a0amWCa8yUq8U

[@RetreadPhoto]

They’re not likely to be able to get flight following while doing simulated IMC and IFR training in a training area, since they’re not traveling point to point. There are a lot better resources out there than the one you mention, by the way, for ATC communications and general flight training.

[@marcston]

@@RetreadPhoto MzoA in my experience is very good and much better than others who only train to pass the written. If you know better resources let me know! PS my flight following comment was on the MZeroA vid. I posted it to show how it should be done in the hope that someone learns something Feel free to disagree and have a great day!

[@Flight_Follower]

Thanks for sharing!

[@stephenanderle5422]

Can't see shit!😎😎😎

[@MeaHeaR]

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[@hswing11]

TERRIBLE NOTHING VIDEO

[@Flight_Follower]

What did you expect sir?

[@MobilMobil-kv5ke]

Interesting that the control tower radar worked perfectly well for observing and vectoring the search aircraft. Too bad that radar was useless in helping avoid the midair collision.

[@F1fan007]

The accident aircraft were not using flight following and had not filed IFR. ATC has obligations to track anyone departing or arriving at the airport, IFR flights and flight following by request. Good example as to why flight following is a good idea.

[@8literbeater]

Also, the collision happened far outside their airspace.