SHOCKING RESULTS: Ucan Superstarch vs Bonking on Carbs

[@brianstucky554]

This is an ad

[@1dsammie]

Ucan is my go to gel... love no sugar

[@DublinDapper]

So much sponsorship..

[@drberrydds1]

Came here for the comments

[@mrgq2000]

Your body never completely switches energy systems. It is always burning both carbs and fats. The difference is going to be how much of either it is using at any given point and how adapted is your body to burn fat for fuel but it is not like, oh you took sugars I am going to stop burning fat or vice versa.

[@neon-3467]

Agree

[@cylack]

You get 90% of the benefits of "superstarch" by just taking regular corn starch at a fraction of the price.

[@Justnothankyou132]

One of the most misinformed videos I've seen in a while.

[@nicholi1246]

Nobody has ever “bonked on carbs”. They bonked from running out of carbs

[@trepidati0n533]

True..but we can point to athletes who are pre-diabetic because they also went too far the other way (carbs day in and day out). If you want to use fast carbs on race day...great. If you want to do it day in and day out then you are in the same logical camp as people who say "carbs bad".

[@AntiVilificationLeague]

The facts say otherwise. Cornstarch might not be the miracle cure.

[@gunnercool1971]

I didn't plan to have this bottle here🤔😂 WTF is that green slop you're eating!

[@ericthered.147]

Did I catch that correctly that your pre-ride meal was only a chia seed pudding? Is that just for test purposes?

[@triathlon9045]

only one supplier of ucan in uk no discount

[@DavidC-rt3or]

Sorry Taren, but videos like this particular one bother me (seen others doing similar "test"), I'm no doctor and I don't know your health situation, but it makes me nervous seeing this when there are a) diabetics that sometimes don't have or can't get continuous glucose monitors to monitor their levels in order to just stay healthy (due to insurance, cost, not known about or whatever), yet top athletes are getting/promoting them to just "optimize" the performance. b) bodies are different and deal with this potentially different every day depending on things like stress, sleep, hydration, does the liver decide to do a glucose dump etc.. so while, yes if your test you did may give you some idea (especially if only done once) someone's day/day can be significantly different. c) the highs/lows/bonks.. some could say welcome to the daily life of a diabetic. not fun for anyone..

[@yohannmiglis7551]

Is there a shortage of CGM that we know of ? I mean is Taren preventing (stealing from) people with diabetes to get a CGM by getting one for himself? Or don't you think making these CGM widely available going to drive the production cost down and making them more affordable for people who have diabetes... Lastly, is it your business how he/top athletes spend their money ? On the other hand, taking one gel and stopping feeding during exercise has never been a recommended strategy by anyone in the history of the sport. You continue feeding during exercise so well, you don't crash.

[@DavidC-rt3or]

@@yohannmiglis7551 Shortage of CGM's specifically.. not that I know of.. electronics in general stemming from pandemic/transportation etc yes there currently are issues... I don't have an issue with him/top pro/anyone that wants to go and purchase one to understand/optimize their health.. it's more of the "assumption" that quite a number of these in this scenario probably aren't purchased but given to for testing/demo/promotion/advertising of the cgm and the app(s) and may also may have up to a team of health professionals assisting the top athletes with nutrition etc. So, more from a disclosure perspective in these kinds of videos (nothing personal health as to the person's specific health situation) but more of things like was the test done once? same test done on multiple days eating the exact same things, same hydration, same etc (aka more lab/clinical like).. vs at least what kinds seems like did this once so... not to mention depending on the cgm.. knowing/mentioning things like first 24hrs may not be quite as accurate, or that there may be a 15-20min lag between what is shown vs current reality, or if it was/wasn't checked also against a test using a finger stick/glucometer

[@hiking7521]

Howdy, im 40 and new to tri...I've been running for awhile 3 miles twice a week. Should I go to a running store and have video my running to get me the correct shoes?

[@ZenEndurance]

Yep. I get the same thing! When I start to bonk, I get aches and pains in my back, feet, old injury spots. That’s how I can tell. What device are you using for blood sugar monitoring?

[@MaartenAnna]

Dude, why don’t you put 2 gels (40gr carbs each) with water into a 750ml bottle for the 2nd hour? Take like 2-3 gulps every 5k & you’re golden. Keeps your glucose levels at a steady level all the way through. Then running you can switch water with carbs @ every other aid station. (Personally I like to eat something like an energy bar or protein bar every 90 mins or so, just to have something solid in my stomache whilst absorbing all that fluid).

[@nicholi1246]

He purposefully does a bad test to get the results he wants so he can plug his bs sponsor

[@jerodkillick]

Great vid. What glucose monitoring system and app were u using?

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[@joepak123]

This ride isn't long enough to yield any meaningful results. You can burn fat for fuel for a majority of that type of ride. I would like to see 3-5 hour ride.

[@caseydog237]

Perfect video for me to watch. 11 days out from my first 70.3 in Boulder. Probably not going to do try new nutrition now, but at least I know that’s I’ll probably have to keep the glucose intake higher than I thought. I’m a pretty big/muscular guy. Shooting for 350-400 cal per hour.

[@neon-3467]

That's kind of high even for a big guy. I understand that is roughly what your burning per hour but I would recommend fueling a tad bit less to avoid gi distress. Maybe shoot for 200-300 cals a hour. Some of that being gels and some being liquids. You may even have to go lower if your not racing at super fast rate. Good luck in Boulder

[@caseydog237]

@@neon-3467 thanks for the feedback. I was probably hedging high. 300 is probably a good number.

[@jmwalsh2]

Paid advertisement. I guess Frodeno and every TdF team is just doing it wrong.

[@trepidati0n533]

There is a difference between pro calorie needs and average joe energy needs....this is often forgotten. The pro's are burning stupid amounts of calories per hour. The pro's are pushing 300W+ average which is 1100 calories hour. They cannot, even with a 1.5g/min fat burn rate keep up...not even close. Even then since they are pushing past the first threshold quite a bit they can't even use their full fat burn rate. Sam Long on his most recent victory consumed 3500 calories ON THE BIKE. I average around 150W which means I burn around 540 calories per hour. If I run a decent fat burn rate of 1g/hour covers that. Since I run fully zone 2 this means I get most of my fat oxidation rate. I really don't need "fast carbs", I just need carbs that keep me going. So if I want a liquid approach things like UCAN work. However, I tend to just run "real food" with water + electrolytes.

[@jmwalsh2]

@@trepidati0n533 I get what you are saying but it comes down to weight loss/management vs performance. What's the goal? If you want to ride longer/faster and increase your zone 2 power I guarantee that actually fueling the work and not worrying about some magical fat burning will work. If want to trying to lose weight... sure.. try the low carb approach and be content with never getting any better.

[@trepidati0n533]

​@@jmwalsh2 Sigh....saying you "I get what you are trying to say" but repeating the same thing you said before with different words is sorta not helping your point. Race day is not the same as a one hour VO2mx workout...but you seem to think they are. *shrug* Regardless, where did "low carb" come into this. Did I ever say "low carb"...no, you did. Maybe you realized my counter point blunted yours and you had to make up some nuclear argument to feel better. Stay safe out there....​

[@jmwalsh2]

@@trepidati0n533 I think I know what I'm doing... and I'll take my track record. "nuclear arguement". You keep worrying about your "fat burn rate" (basically impossible to actually measure... even in a lab).... I'll keep worrying about actually trying to get stronger and faster. This channel is a train wreck and it's why it's fun to watch. Mediocre athletes buying into marketing in its fullest extent. I hope you are following his training plans too......

[@trepidati0n533]

@@jmwalsh2 People who think they know what they are doing telling people they don't know what they are doing who think they are knowing what they are doing. The irony is not lost on me. Again...with the insults. Your internet argument skills really are amazing...you must know what you are doing.

[@The_classicnoob]

Dates and walnuts work best for me

[@FunkyFaulc]

I thought you'd use the 160 or 320 Maurten mix, not the gel. That 100 kcal in the gels won't fuel you very long unless you keep taking them every 30 mins or so. That's why I use them on the run only.

[@Thomas1969H]

Great video. I train for full Ironman just fueling on Ucan gels and bars. What fueling regiment would you recommend for the race?

[@tludwig400]

I appreciate this testing at a high level, but agree with the concerns that there are too many uncontrolled variables here. Energy gels are good for a quick bump if needed at the end of a ride or workout but aren’t a good choice for sustained output. I’m early on in my nutrition experimentation, but I’ve been having a lot of success with a highly branched cyclic dextrin product. I tried UCan for awhile based on your recommendation, but it just didn’t work for me.

[@MegaMagicbeans]

It has zero relevance to the video, but over the past 2-3 years I have been watching these videos and as of Sunday i can call myself a OUTLAW :) (full distance) Of course all the hints and tips i took from this channel were totally forgotten on the day, and we don't talk the mistake of forgetting to actually put the bike computer on the bike, the lack of sun cream a mechanical issue from mile one when the front mech exploded but we got their in the end, but the thought was their at least Taren :) Thankyou.

[@Justnothankyou132]

Why are you seeking validation from a YT comment section.

[@quincyfreeman2901]

Great vid - I did a bunch of subjective testing leading up to my first marathon and landed on Ucan myself. I do think the timed carb approach of Ucan is generally superior, but it’s worth noting that there a lot of additional factors at play not discussed - the biggest being one’s overall regular diet and “sensitivity” to faster carb options.

[@positiveandhealthy2728]

I feel healthy everytime I watch this kind of videos 😊

[@stevesears8241]

Enjoyed the video. Thankful for your contributions to the sport. However, I think the science is pretty clear that sugar during competition is optimal, as evidenced by the fact that effectively 100% of the ironman pros use this approach. Jan Frodeno trains with ultra-high carbs and races on sugar.

[@nnoo6227]

My husband and I, respectively 64 and 52 years old, have ditched sugar gel and maltodextrin a few years ago after years of gastric distress and screwed up races due to stomach problems, nausea, bonking etc. I was the first to start low carb high fat training and the U Can bars were instrumental (and S Fuel) to transition. OMG what a difference they make! We are healthier, stronger, and much more motivated now than ever to pursue triathlon. Note to UCan: please don’t cover the bars with chocolate. They melt horribly during the hot rides. And bring back the coffee flavor!

[@bd4945]

Just use Cluster Dextrin . You won’t get any GI issues .

[@Justnothankyou132]

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[@9to5triathlon96]

Awesome content! In line with what I'm trying to communicate in my channel

[@jimmyjones6497]

Keto is the Way, dude.