Shocking video shows float plane crash into boat during takeoff in BC harbour, 2 seriously injured

[@joesantos99]

Four people on the boat and not one of them had a pair of eyes or ears?!

[@vapormissile]

"pleasure craft.". BUI..?

[@AsiaOceans-nx5lr]

On the boat??? That was not the fault of the boat or the people on it . They didn’t drive into the plane. The plane drove into them. What on earth was that pilot on to make that kind of stupid mistake?

[@stardust4987]

@@AsiaOceans-nx5lr Your wrong,the plane has the right of way.

[@justanotheryoutube]

@@stardust4987 NO, sorry your wrong. Licensed marine captain here. Float planes must obey all the same rules as any other vessel while in the water. The rule is yield to vessels on your right. That boat was clearly on his right. Float planes while landing and in air are at the very bottom of the list of rights.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@justanotheryoutube So, a boat operator just lets a collision happen, asserting his 'right'.

[@jimw1615]

The pilot sitting on the left side of the cockpit (where the pilot in command does sit) cannot see a water-borne vessel that is close-in to its front and right. The floatplane's nose is high at that point in the takeoff, before the floats begin to plane. How a pleasure boater in an open power boat misses an aircraft taking off or landing in that area is just amazing to me.

[@rockyjohnson9243]

booze or worse

[@Alsatiagent-zu1rx]

Yes, they are very loud.

[@Thomas-r8w9x]

There are too many drunk, stoned, and or incompetent people running power boats in the harbour here. One sees a lot of stupidity in the harbour, especially during big public events. It is likely that alcohol played some role in this as heavy drinking is common on the water in the harbour. Two years ago a friend invited me to spend the day on his boat that was taking off from coal harbour. When I arrived the owner of the boat and his friends were already quite drunk. I called the taxi and went home, leaving them in their drunken state. Never get into a boat operated by a drunk or otherwise stoned person. Alcohol is a factor in many water way accidents.

[@jimmyarbutus2555]

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[@Zak6959]

@@jimmyarbutus2555 I hear tinfoil makes great hats too. Lol.

[@kbr1064]

The Harbour Port Authority addressed all the speculation online this morning and said the floatplane had the right of way!! Told you!

[@rboddington]

Correct.

[@NicholasVincent-ol1zk]

Okay 4th july keys to the city GTAed.

[@JUVI9596]

How do you not notice a plane coming at you from miles away?

[@polska905]

How do you not notice a boat in front of you when taking off in open water anyway?

[@JUVI9596]

@@polska905 a boat can stop and turn suddenly. A taking off airplane can’t.

[@markadler8968]

@@polska905 I ride my jet ski all the time around in that area. There are buoys and markers that boaters have to follow when they are coming out of the nearby marina so they can steer clear of the float planes. The people in the boat had no business anywhere around that area.

[@TheUnknownVideographer]

I film down there all the time. You'd be amazed how many morons in boats deliberately go into the area to film with smartphones close up to planes. There's a boat rental nearby as well. They give out a map showing where not to go. people ignore it.

[@stuartb3609]

@@markadler8968 Have watched the planes there many times. Aren’t they normally airborne before this point?

[@bosvarkutube]

Boat operator needs to be arrested

[@tjm3900]

Technically the plane pilot is at fault.

[@DoylesDigs]

​​@@tjm3900technically you know nothing about flight paths or marine right of way regulations..

[@robhunter2435]

@@tjm3900 How is the pilot at fault when the boat is in the wrong area. Explain that !!

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@tjm3900 Nope. The boater crossed the path of an aircraft on its prior takeoff run.

[@crossroads5771]

Boat captain should be jailed That's criminal negligence

[@redeyedmongoose2963]

You are wrong

[@Mo_Taser]

If the boat did not change speed or direction prior to the collision the blame may be on the floatplane's pilot for not making sure he or she had an unobstructed takeoff path.

[@billjones261]

No its the pilot's fault for taking the path directly in line with the travelling boat. Boaters are looking forward all the time they dont expect to be crossed up in line with fast moving float plane coming at them from the side. I fly float planes and a licensed pilot of 30 years. 😳

[@Ketowski]

@@billjones261 Would audible signals before takeoff on floatplanes help prevent this kind of tragedy?

[@jjdude5531]

@@billjones261 You don't fly float planes. You've never flown any plane.

[@Arational]

The boat intruded into a no boat zone reserved for the float plane takeoffs and landings. When the Beaver on floats is accelerating it is in a nose up attitude and the pilot cannot see watercraft coming in from the side. That is why there is an exclusion zone.

[@pierre_desbiens]

It’s very easy to get your boating license, here is a prime example. For the people blaming the pilot …. they have right of way and cannot turn effectively at speed.

[@wally7856]

They do not have right of way! All planes must give way to boats. While taxing it is a vessel and maritime law states all vessels must give way to anything on their starboard (right). That plane is 100% at fault with a double whammy.

[@JXero]

​@wally7856 I mean let's pretend we live in your fantasy world what evasive action could the pilot take? Also if that was really the hard and fast rule people would be trying to drift before crashes to avoid responsibility just by spinning the boat 😂

[@flywithme7]

​@@wally7856You absolutely don't know what you are talking about.

[@wally7856]

@@flywithme7 FAA regulations: (a) General. Each person operating an aircraft on the water shall, insofar as possible, keep clear of all vessels and avoid impeding their navigation, and shall give way to any vessel or other aircraft that is given the right-of-way by any rule of this section. (b) Crossing. When aircraft, or an aircraft and a vessel, are on crossing courses, the aircraft or vessel to the other's right has the right-of-way. No person shall conduct or attempt to conduct a take-off or landing in an aircraft until there is no apparent risk of collision with any aircraft, person, vessel, vehicle or structure in the take-off or landing path.

[@howunacceptibleofme2145]

​@@flywithme7that's why he's called "Wally" ...

[@fayknox2138]

Boats fault.

[@joec9553]

Stopped in the path

[@billjones261]

No its the pilot's fault for taking the path directly in line with the travelling boat. Boaters are looking forward all the time they dont expect to be crossed up in line with fast moving float plane coming at them from the side. I fly float planes and a licensed pilot of 30 years.

[@blueabattoir]

billjones261 Bull!

[@Ketowski]

Float plane pilot weighed in and suggested it’s the pilot’s responsibility. Most boaters aren’t thinking in terms of being hit by Pelicans or planes.

[@Elo-hv3fw]

Rule number one in open oceans and harbors : The one with the least maneuverability has the right of way !!!

[@davem8836]

"Hey Bill, is that an airplane charging down on us?" "Don't worry, he'll lift off before it gets here."

[@BeachcomberNZ]

Surely, when a float plane is in the process of actually taking off, and NOT just puttering around preparing to do so, it would have the right of way? I mean, how does a plane in full take off mode 'swerve' out of the way without flipping over and wrecking?

[@Milkmans_Son]

I thought so, but nope: 14 CFR PART 91, SECTION 91.115 RIGHT-OF-WAY RULES: WATER OPERATIONS The right-of-way rules for operation on water are similar, but not identical, to the rules governing right-of-way between aircraft in flight. (a) General. Each person operating an aircraft on the water shall, insofar as possible, keep clear of all vessels and avoid impeding their navigation, and shall give way to any vessel or other aircraft that is given the right-of-way by any rule of this section. (b) Crossing. When aircraft, or an aircraft and a vessel, are on crossing courses, the aircraft or vessel to the other’s right has the right-of-way.

[@AsiaOceans-nx5lr]

It simply does not take off or continue to accelerate when a boat is crossing their path. The pilot is at fault and never should have attempted a take off under those conditions.

[@blueabattoir]

AsiaOceans-nx5lr I think the boat swerved into the path of the plane.

[@pajamatime5750]

@@Milkmans_SonWho cares what the rules are. If a plane is taking off, as a boat operator, your head should be on a swivel and see that. If you follow the rules and don’t use common sense on the water you’ll die. I’ve seen it before - no one else out there knows the “right of way” rules so you have to be smart…. Plain and simple.

[@jessefarsang5143]

@@Milkmans_Son Unfortunately for the boater they were operating (doing donuts) in a restricted zone. The floatplane was not taxiing - boating rules are not applicable. It was already on step taking off and could not change course. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear.

[@davidwhite6440]

To all those quoting the colregs, the Harbour Master said on one of the news channels that the area was reserved for aircraft. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. If this is the case, then the local bylaws would take precedence over rule 18.

[@colinlawrence36]

Further proof of social media where people say so much yet know so little

[@Scott_fonz81]

And your opinion?

[@rdmgwinn]

yet know nothing in some cases

[@blueabattoir]

colinlawrence36 I call it The KZbin Factor.

[@colinlawrence36]

@@Scott_fonz81 No opinion just the facts that aviation accidents usually result from multiple factors. I have piloted floatplanes out of busy channels where boaters like to get close but transport canada has guidelines of who has right of way. The boater was in a restricted area, but the pilot was advised by ATC of a boat and from his seat would have been difficult to see the boat on his take off run. I'll wait for the final report and then learn what went wrong

[@doc2help]

Wow! The boat operator had plenty of time to avoid a collision as the pay of the plane was totally predictable. Such a shame.

[@AsiaOceans-nx5lr]

Are you serious? The boat was perpendicular to the plane and has the right of way. The plane drove into the boat not the other way around.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@AsiaOceans-nx5lr How does a seaplane stop its takeoff run?

[@mikewiltshire9121]

​@@AsiaOceans-nx5lrare you serious? That area is like a runway for planes. They have the right of way.

[@AsiaOceans-nx5lr]

@@RideAcrossTheRiverIt can’t most likely. That is why it is not supposed to take off when any vessels are potentially in it’s path. It is the pilot who needs to ensure that before takeoff.

[@AsiaOceans-nx5lr]

@@mikewiltshire9121However it is not a runway and boats are the norm on the water. Marine regulations apply to both and as such the pilot is clearly at fault. “RIGHT-OF-WAY RULES: WATER OPERATIONS The right-of-way rules for operation on water are similar, but not identical, to the rules governing right- of-way between aircraft in flight. (a) General. Each person operating an aircraft on the water shall, insofar as possible, keep clear of all vessels and avoid impeding their navigation, and shall give way to any vessel or other aircraft that is given the right-of-way by any rule of this section. (b) Crossing. When aircraft, or an aircraft and a ves- sel, are on crossing courses, the aircraft or vessel to the other’s right has the right-of-way.” As the regulations clearly state it is the boat that has the right of way not the plane.

[@LincolnLoud-ht1vb]

i actually live in coal harbour and this is something that has never happened before

[@edy21865]

What an irresponsible boat captain! Had all the room to steer clear of the float plane and still managed to crash into it.

[@markadler8968]

I was out in that area yesterday and the ocean was packed with every kind of boat imaginable because of the hot weather. Most of the people operating them are either drunk or clueless about the regulations in that type of situation.

[@justanotheryoutube]

It was the planes fault

[@DwightStJohn-w1l]

I used to row my Bevin skiff around Burrard Inlet and the Port Authority pulled up in a boat half a football field long (I'm 12 feet) and told me self powered boats aren't allowed in the Inlet. BECAUSE the drunk power boat operators might run over me.

[@marilynturcotte5304]

The speed Boat operator, Blind? You get the heck away, stop, turn away!

[@MrUranium238]

so the float plan randomly takes off from anywhere , 100% plan pilot is at fault

[@TheUnknownVideographer]

@@MrUranium238 There's nothing "Random" That area is an Aerodrome and marked with buoys. There are designated landing and takeoff areas. That boat was not allowed to be there.

[@ysesq]

@@TheUnknownVideographer that is not true

[@markadler8968]

@@ysesq Yes it is dum dum. I ride my PWC there all the time and was in that area yesterday morning.

[@marilynturcotte5304]

The boat operator should have heard the plane ,looked, and realized they were in its flight path! As for random, air space is controlled!!!

[@gielectric626]

The tower operator is mostly at fault here. It’s my understanding that once a float plane begins its run for a take-off, the nose tips up and as a result reduces the pilots ability to see directly in front of the plane basically to zero thus making the pilot solely dependent on the tower operator. It sounds like the power to the planes engines was full on right up to the moment of impact. Certainly the boat operator should not have been there but why was the engine of the plane still at full throttle when it hit the boat? Didn’t the tower operator see the dumb boat in the way and call off the take off? Or is there even a tower operator? I’m not a pro in this stuff…

[@trappedinkalifornee]

The boat was operating in a RESTRICTED NO GO ZONE reserved for float plane activity…,

[@1doug62]

It's a Harbour, Not a Restricted No Go Zone!

[@trappedinkalifornee]

@@1doug62 check your nautical warning maps.

[@jessefarsang5143]

@@1doug62 The boater (that was doing donuts prior) is 100% at fault due to being in the restricted zone. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. Look at the nautical chart of the port and you can see they are inside the restricted zone (take off / landing zone for CXH Vancouver Harbour Water Aerodrome)

[@greggreg2263]

Absolute dumbest boat driver, we could get😢

[@billjones261]

No its the pilot's fault for taking the path directly in line with the travelling boat. Boaters are looking forward all the time they dont expect to be crossed up in line with fast moving float plane coming at them from the side. I fly float planes and a licensed pilot of 30 years.

[@greggreg2263]

I thought the rule was the float planes ✈️ have the right away in this particular harbor. I’ve been using these float planes for the last 50 years.

[@califoo]

How is the boat operator supposed to know the plane is going to go full throttle and take off? A lot of times the planes are just idling or turning around. The boat had no chance to make evasive maneuvers. The way the news is reported is to make it seem like the "speed" boat intentionally turned into the plane's path. Ridiculous editorializing. The boat was going pretty slow.

[@blueabattoir]

@califoo You are tripping on something.

[@kevint1910]

@@califoo"How is the boat operator supposed to know?" The same way that you are REQUIRED to know who has the right of way at a highway intersection. In this case the highway is a harbor channel that the plane was USING and the Boat was crossing...does that clear it up for you or do I need to get remedial?

[@sculptus5708]

What a tragedy. I hope the airplane is okay and is able to get back into service very soon. The fault is 100% the operator of the motorboat. He should be charged and made an example of. Also never be allowed to operate a motorboat.

[@naga2015kk]

"I will captain my boat anywhere I please as I have freedom of navigation regardless of whatever is in my path"

[@gielectric626]

The tower operator was at fault because they should have told the plane to abort take off and power down once the boat foolishly entered the planes path. The boat should not have been there but that doesn’t mean that the plane gets to ram into it. That plane should have been told to abort take off from the tower operator. Harbour Air is ultimately at fault for the crash.

[@seanjesso9817]

Boat ran into the plane ,,The Plane did not run in to the boat ,,, Whys the plane Pilot getting the blame ""

[@billjones261]

No its the pilot's fault for taking the path directly in line with the travelling boat. Boaters are looking forward all the time they dont expect to be crossed up in line with fast moving float plane coming at them from the side. I fly float planes and a licensed pilot of 30 years.

[@AsiaOceans-nx5lr]

Are you out to lunch? How does a boat perpendicular to a plane drive into it. Watch the video carefully. The plane drives into the middle of the side of the boat.

[@kbr1064]

The FLOATPLANES HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY THERE! There are signs all over that harbour saying “ Float planes have right of way caution” etc etc! That is their runway path!! That boat operator should be jailed right now!!

[@justanotheryoutube]

The plane did not have the right of way

[@scotabot7826]

There are no bounds to stupidity and ignorance!!!

[@serioustoday]

It is easier for the pleasure boater to see and evade. The plane's field of vision downwards toward the water is not good.

[@TheUnknownVideographer]

It's ZERO when taking off. The pilot is running on instruments. It's a DHC-2 Beaver, the blind spots on that is massive.

[@robhunter2435]

That is what I thought it might be after asking why the plane did not shut down the engine. Probably would have made no difference anyways as he was already at liftoff speed. Awhile back a boater went between a tug and a barge before the fireworks had started. It did not end well for him. Lack of awareness will get you killed.

[@luisaraujo4708]

Some boaters don’t know how to boat. The plane can’t turn once it’s committed the a take off path.

[@HamidA-to8vy]

I would be shocked if private boats are allowed to move freely in that area

[@kbr1064]

Exactly! They are not even supposed to be in that area! There are signs all over that harbour saying “caution, float planes have right of way, Stay back” etc. That boat operator should be in jail right now!

[@stanpatterson5033]

@@joshanderson924 I believe that the area in question is a restricted area for aircraft only. If this is the case, then the pleasure boat should not have been where he was. Right-of-way becomes a moot point if unauthorized craft invade restricted space.

[@jessefarsang5143]

The boater (that was doing donuts prior) is 100% at fault due to being in the restricted zone. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. Look at the nautical chart of the port and you can see they are inside the restricted zone (take off / landing zone for CXH Vancouver Harbour Water Aerodrome)

[@madbager1]

Apparently somebody didn't pass their test had somebody do it for them that boaters fault completely

[@NicholasVincent-ol1zk]

That boat looked like a free safety what an angle was he preventing a dope smuggler from scoring?

[@ramit439]

100% the boater’s fault. As a power boater the driver is out of his lane in reference to aircraft landing or taking off in that particular area. Guaranteed the pilot couldn’t see the boater while in a nose high attitude. It’s a miracle someone didn’t lose their head by virtue of the prop.

[@WhiskeyGulf71]

Honestly, if you can’t see & hear a plane coming toward you then you should not be at the helm of a boat ! It’s obviously the boat that must keep out of the path of the airplane, I suspect the boat crew were assuming that the plane would fly over them which would make for a cool video.

[@Confidentk9sCa]

Not surprised this happened for how busy it is there. Wishing the injured all speedy recoveries. ❤

[@bomber767]

Anyone who’s ever watched a float plane take off knows how LOUD that is. It’s deafening!

[@604mattcee]

It’s hard to believe the captain of the boat couldn’t hear or see the plane.

[@cdncitizen4700]

Boater wasn't looking laterally, but likely his OWN engine likely drowned out the sound of the incoming floatplane.

[@MichaelGillespie-iy2qe]

Maybe the boater thought because he was on a "starboard tack" he had the right-of-way.

[@billjones261]

Kind of thinking of the same thing

[@justanotheryoutube]

the plane did not have the right of way

[@reinhardtkk]

There’s a a 7 knot limit in that part Harbour. Power boat going way too fast

[@Ignatiusyip1978]

I was reading online a 2022 regulations it said 5 knots

[@vincevincent6984]

Probably drunk boaters or just oblivious to their surroundings like so many are .

[@Coyotehello]

I certainly agree that boaters are ignorant, I am a boarter and I work in the industry. I also can look at this harbour from my apartment. At 0:42 you see the red marker The power and if you look at the boat location he is between the markers. I have never seen a HA plane trying to take off aiming directly at the bauxite depot / Lion's gate marina before. the take-off landing strip for HA almost follow the south shore. What is he doing (apparently) crossing the navigating water to VRC and RVYC???

[@AaronMathison-v4i]

Boat operator impaired?

[@Arrogan28]

They should definitely check....

[@TH-mf1hn]

This clip doesn’t show enough of what happened in the lead up to make any determinations. The investigation will need to play out.

[@isailwind3471]

The only possible way the boat isn’t at fault is if he was having engine trouble.

[@jessefarsang5143]

The boater (that was doing donuts prior) is 100% at fault due to being in the restricted zone. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. The boater is inside the restricted zone (take off / landing zone for CXH Vancouver Harbour Water Aerodrome) and should not have been there. Going by the videos they were over the 5kt limit as well.

[@Themilkmanskid.]

It all happened because water is natural habitat of a plane and land is the natural habitat of a boat.

[@marcelstanford430]

The boat has far more ability to avoid the accident in this case. The plane can only continue in a straight line at that point and not going fast enough to generate sufficient lift for takeoff. The plane could only cut power, if he even saw the boat.

[@Leeann-gs5qz]

It's the boats fault.

[@joshanderson924]

wrong. boat is stupid but not at fault. So if a broken down or anchored boat gets hit by a seaplane its their fault?

[@virgilhilts3924]

Nope

[@buckshotgigalo]

We'll have this conversation again after the Transport Canada Investigation.

[@DaTripper]

I use the fuel dock in Coal Harbour regularly. The only thing on my mind in a 30 ft sailboat is harbour Air and a getting to the dock in one piece. That boater hadn't a clue where he was.

[@conork325]

So videoing, not calling 911. Spectator pulls out her phone and starts videoing, friend watches. Other guy walks up and shields his eyes to see better. Noone calls 911 !?!?!?

[@billjones261]

In aviation rules (FAA) concerning float planes taking off on water, it's the pilot's responsibility "before" take off to make sure the chosen path is clear and unobstructed from any other vessel on the water such as boats, moving or stationary, that could pose a possible danger by taking that path of take off. 😳

[@AM-my3jk]

Ouch! Looks like that’s going to sting.

[@andg5194]

So many marine craft and float plane experts here, amazing!!🤣

[@blueabattoir]

It really gives us the chance to show off our knowledge!

[@grahamkearnon6682]

"Packeged' what stupid language is that, he is speaking to the public, ridiculous!

[@jolevalot]

How dare he use proper terminology!?!

[@Arrogan28]

@grahamkernon6632 If you are going to criticize someone's use of language, at least get your spelling right. Packaged is a perfect word for what they did... "enclosed in a package or protective covering" Which is exactly what they did, they presented each patient in protective covering designed to prevent any more harm coming to that patient during transport. Sadly some people's vocabulary only resolves around being a consumer, so the only time they would use 'packaged' would be in terms of food, or goods being wrapped in protective covering. But the actual usage of the word is not limited to consumer goods/food. Packed/Packaged are often used to describe how to store something on boats... so it's familiar nautical terminology...

[@rebeccahenderson7761]

It's definitely the boat fault. The boat has the maneuverability to get out of the way, the plane does not.

[@pajamatime5750]

What the hell is wrong with the people on the boat??????? Can’t see an airplane????

[@billjones261]

It's the pilot's fault for taking the path directly in line with the travelling boat. Boaters are looking forward all the time they dont expect to be crossed up in line with fast moving float planes coming at them from the side. I fly float planes and am a licensed pilot of 30 years. Boaters on the open waters think they have the right away over float planes and to an extent they are right. I am guessing the person controlling the boat thought the plane was going to pass in front of him or behind so he (maybe she) kept on course. This is still the float plane pilot majority at fault in this collision. The Beavers are very loud planes so there must have been some audible notice of the plane . 😳

[@blueabattoir]

billjones261 Nobody believes you.

[@billjones261]

@@blueabattoir The fact is there are rules and regulations (laws) pertaining to both boaters and planes that operate on water. someone already pointed that out just look it up 😡😡😡😡

[@jessefarsang5143]

The boater (that was doing donuts prior) is 100% at fault due to being in the restricted zone. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. Look at the nautical chart of the port and you can see they are inside the restricted zone (take off / landing zone for CXH Vancouver Harbour Water Aerodrome). The plane was already on step (taking off) and would not see the boater. You should know this being a PIC yourself.

[@EBikes420]

The Seaplane is 100% at fault.

[@RC-wt7fr]

What a dumb boat. They are without question 100% at fault. They should be arrested.

[@dalelange845]

😮 The boat has the right of way and anyone that has taken the USCG's basic boater safety class knows this. Additionally, the floatplane operator knew, or should have known, that the area was shared with pleasure craft operated by captains with varying degrees of experience.

[@winstonsmith935]

All that space out there, trying to occupy that same spot is not a good move

[@NicholasVincent-ol1zk]

Anytime a boat sinks under suspicious circumstances check cargo see why some faction is trying to expose thier manifest & destiny.

[@DEVILDOG1964]

INSANE!!

[@bongcrosby5598]

"I almost got head from Amelia Earhart!"

[@bobcrane9945]

So regardless of who is legally responsible here is the boat not more manouverabal and could they not have avoided this?

[@JessiJohnson1]

Pretty sure that is the fault of the boat captain

[@prussiaaero1802]

Anyone else hear the Dukes of Hazzard Dixie horn a moment before impact?

[@stardust4987]

Been in a float plane, they are very loud during take off and those in the boat certainly would be able to hear it and see it coming toward them.The plane would have been nose up as it picked up speed and would not have seen the small boat.Why didn't they get out of the way? A small boat has far more flexibility than a plane.

[@iuliandragomir1]

100% boat driver is guilty. He cross the path of the seaplane. To be honest all are guilty. In such a crowded spot all must be more careful. Is more easy to change the course of a boat than to stop a plane at full throttle.

[@bobwoods1302]

Float planes have right of way.

[@wally7856]

They do not! All planes must give way to boats, always! While taxing the plane is considered a vessel and all vessels must give way to all traffic on their starboard (right) according to maritime law. That was double the airplanes fault 100%!!!

[@wally7856]

@@marc37921 FAA regulations: (a) General. Each person operating an aircraft on the water shall, insofar as possible, keep clear of all vessels and avoid impeding their navigation, and shall give way to any vessel or other aircraft that is given the right-of-way by any rule of this section. (b) Crossing. When aircraft, or an aircraft and a vessel, are on crossing courses, the aircraft or vessel to the other's right has the right-of-way.

[@billjones261]

No its the pilot's fault for taking the path directly in line with the travelling boat. Boaters are looking forward all the time they dont expect to be crossed up in line with fast moving float plane coming at them from the side. I fly float planes and a licensed pilot of 30 years.

[@bobwoods1302]

@@billjones261 "boaters are looking ahead all the time". 😂😂. No the captain of a vessel has to maintain visual awareness just like anyone else

[@coastdogaviation1835]

Wrong

[@junior-ro9wi]

why would you slow down with a plane comming at you

[@breakwindfarms5583]

It's such a massive waterway.

[@markadler8968]

I don't know if you are being sarcastic but it is not massive at all.

[@superrich2719]

Regardless of who has the right of way. How do you not hear or see a plane? Ive been on the lake with planes and regardless of wind direction……. You hear the plane!! The entire lake does ….. that harbour is not that big.

[@tjm3900]

Regardless of the boat technically having right of way, the plane pilot should expect stupid, inexperienced boaters in that location. Traffic control warned of small craft but pilot did not acknowledge. It is EVERYBODY'S responsibility to prevent accidents, but the float plane pilot carries extra responsibility.

[@tjm3900]

@plantbasedstrong2363 No ! Boats are legally entitled to use that area but are 'advised' to avoid it. Rental boats can let out to anybody without any certification (Operators just have a short safety breif) The pilot was advised by control of a craft heading into the zone but did not acknowledge this. This is a dangerous area, congested, poorly marked and with the likelihood of inexperienced people operating small craft. The pilot should have been more cautious. Lots could have been done to avoid accidents like this.

[@jessefarsang5143]

The boater (that was doing donuts prior above the 5kt speed limit *reckless to begin with) is 100% at fault due to being in the restricted zone. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. Look at the nautical chart of the port and you can see they are inside the restricted zone (take off / landing zone for CXH Vancouver Harbour Water Aerodrome). The plane was already on step (taking off) and would not see the boater.

[@WW-sj7zk]

Channel 16 is there for a reason. Good thing the plane at point of contact was carrying as much speed as she was otherwise would certainly be looking at fatalities here.

[@NicholasVincent-ol1zk]

What cargo did plane have?

[@imadrone3862]

A commercial seaplane operation obviously lacks a perfect method of ensuring the water runway is clear of intrusions for a given take off time period. The main airport has a tower and air traffic controllers for a reason. Maybe they need a tower and air traffic control system as well for the harbor. The big picture safety is the plane taking off without a clear water runway needs to be fixed. I would not blame the boat or the plane for this collision, they both are part of a bigger safety failure that was waiting to happen.

[@virgilhilts3924]

Gotta love all the KZbin "experts" who have no clue what they are babbling about 14 CFR PART 91, SECTION 91.115 RIGHT-OF-WAY RULES: WATER OPERATIONS (b) Crossing. When aircraft, or an aircraft and a ves- sel, are on crossing courses, the aircraft or vessel to the other’s right has the right-of-way.

[@troyjollimore4100]

Pretty sure they have established ‘corridors’ for aircraft operation. The airplane was nose high. The pilot probably couldn’t even see the oncoming powerboat, much less guess they’d be stupid enough not to get out of the way… 🤦‍♂️

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@troyjollimore4100 The boat had the ROW The pilot screwed up Period

[@misterfunnybones]

@@troyjollimore4100 ATC can see everything from 200 Granville St. Why clearance with a stand-on vessel in the path?

[@billjones261]

You'll notice just before impact the boat that was in the collision probably had to maneuver away from another boat coming at him which could have caused a sight distraction from the oncoming float plane. 😳😳😳

[@jessefarsang5143]

5kn speed limit and the boat was in restricted aerodrome water way. Unfortunately, they should never have been there.

[@jonflanagin6682]

Looks like the boat stop right in the path.

[@andrewhazenberg3398]

That pilot intentionally ran into that boat ! 😡😡

[@ncljoy]

That area is a designated zone for aircraft

[@MAgaSUXX]

What makes more noise than an aircraft taking off and for goodness sakes can’t pilot. Make sure the area is clear before he guns it for takeoff.? A “collision of dunces” 👀

[@DONUTFORME]

coast guard rules state vessel on the right has the right of way. coal harbor does not have a designated take off and landing pattern in the harbor. they fly in and out of lake union several times a day. however, there is a designated marked landing area that boateers have to yield right of way to aircraft.

[@SnowTiger45]

The Pilot is supposed to be sure that his path is clear before commencing any water take-off, but then Boaters are supposed to watch where they are going and make sure they don't cross anyone's path. I'd say both Party's have some blame in this incident but likely more so on the Pilot.

[@jessefarsang5143]

The boater (that was doing donuts prior) is 100% at fault due to being in the restricted zone. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. Look at the nautical chart of the port and you can see they are inside the restricted zone (take off / landing zone for CXH Vancouver Harbour Water Aerodrome). The plane was already on step (taking off) and would not see the boater.

[@eneshadzic3778]

What country did that boat driver come from

[@edstraight846]

So many 'experts', so little knowledge

[@jungle991]

Still Investigation ? It was a Boats fault he can spees out away when he saw plane is coming

[@gtatours1542]

Who's fault?

[@justanotheryoutube]

Please do not comment on who was at fault unless you are a licensed marine captain or a licensed sea plane captain.

[@blueabattoir]

But that’s what these videos are for.

[@BramStoked-uq4hp]

Do I have to show my license to you before I can comment? Anyone who has a boating license is deemed to know the Rules of the Road. Do you know them?

[@robhunter2435]

Both are at fault. How can they not see the collision coming. WOW!!!

[@jessefarsang5143]

The boater (that was doing donuts prior) is 100% at fault due to being in the restricted zone. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. Look at the nautical chart of the port and you can see they are inside the restricted zone (take off / landing zone for CXH Vancouver Harbour Water Aerodrome). The plane was already on step (taking off) and would not see the boater.

[@steve9503]

Is the Beaver write-off?

[@Woolverine25]

Boat should have paid attention to what was going on around it!!

[@jomarlefevre5311]

Who's at fault? Are boats allowed in that area? Are there signs? If that part of the water is consider active "landing / take off area" boats should not be allowed to cross it.

[@misterfunnybones]

It's pretty busy. Kelowna is worse for landings with all the rec boaters & jet ski operators. But that boat was the stand-on vessel, so ATC + pilot have some paperwork to fill out.

[@jessefarsang5143]

The boater (that was doing donuts prior) is 100% at fault due to being in the restricted zone. The Port of Vancouver Information states: The aircraft operations zones marked * on the chart are areas of high activity and operators of recreational vessels or pleasure craft are required to keep clear. Look at the nautical chart of the port and you can see they are inside the restricted zone (take off / landing zone for CXH Vancouver Harbour Water Aerodrome). The plane was already on step (taking off) and would not see the boater.

[@misterfunnybones]

@@jessefarsang5143 that doesn't exonerate the pilot. Initiating a takeoff after being warned of traffic by ATC does not give you unequivocal right of way even in a restricted traffic area. "I have the right of way & I didn't see that vessel" might buy some lenience, but the warning from ATC is a clear indication that the takeoff should have been delayed until the area was clear of traffic.

[@jessefarsang5143]

@@misterfunnybones The traffic referred was on the other side out of the camera view. What you don’t see is the two boats ripping around over 30+kt doing donuts in the aerodrome lane past the signage and red buoys just minutes before. I was there on the point and saw the whole thing as unfortunate as it is, the pleasure craft operator was at fault will likely face charges.

[@Loveconcert2006]

I just took harbour air this week and feel like it is very unsafe to ride on it again. If it is a bigger boat, there will be explosion and more injuries

[@DwightStJohn-w1l]

DECADES of Harbour Air taking off and landing many times a day in the inlet (Vancouver downtown) and landing in Victoria (downtown). Soooooooooooooo, drum roll, REGALE me with your ACUMEN, Clarice. How many times has a boat /plane incident happened in DECADES of operation???

[@Loveconcert2006]

@@DwightStJohn-w1l no matter whose fault it is, one accident like this can incur serious damage to the seaplanes reputation

[@jessefarsang5143]

Fortunately you have the personal choice of transportation.

[@tweegster-canadianbrickcaf1011]

Maybe to help prevent this in the future there should be buoys marking float plane runways to help ensure no boat gets in the way.

[@bradmercier8267]

Planes have to take off into the wind, and land into the wind, they need the ability to use all 360 degrees of the water area. Boats by law have to give way to aircraft landing or taking off.

[@rockyjohnson9243]

The driver of the boat is at fault and could have easily moved out of the way. However booze was most likely involved or just stupidity.

[@wally7856]

@@bradmercier8267 They do not, it is the other way around. All planes must give way to boats, period.

[@BlueTeamRedTeam]

@@wally7856no that’s not correct. Its is the pilot’s fault, however it’s not because boats have the right of way in all circumstances. Right of Way - Aircraft Manoeuvring on Water 602.20 (1) Where an aircraft on the water has another aircraft or a vessel on its right, the pilot-in-command of the first-mentioned aircraft shall give way. (2) Where an aircraft on the water is approaching another aircraft or a vessel head-on, or approximately so, the pilot-in-command of the first-mentioned aircraft shall alter its heading to the right. (3) The pilot-in-command of an aircraft that is overtaking another aircraft or a vessel on the water shall alter its heading to keep well clear of the other aircraft or the vessel. No person shall conduct or attempt to conduct a take-off or landing in an aircraft until there is no apparent risk of collision with any aircraft, person, vessel, vehicle or structure in the take-off or landing path.

[@wally7856]

@@BlueTeamRedTeam I was correcting bradmercier who said boats must give way to aircraft landing or taking off, not taxing. Planes landing and taking off must give way to boats in all circumstances. Taxing they follow normal maritime rules (give way to vessels on the right).

[@rboddington]

Boater, 100% at fault.

[@misterfunnybones]

Nope. Boat is stand-on vessel. ATC clearance may be at fault plus the pilot.

[@rboddington]

@@misterfunnybones No the plane cannot avoid the collision as easily as the boat. The boater has an obligation to change course and avoid the collision.

[@misterfunnybones]

@@rboddington Audio from the ATC gave clearance, but warned pilot to avoid the westbound boat. It's going to be pilot error.

[@rboddington]

@@misterfunnybones I posted a video of an interview with the government official in charge who clearly stated it was the boater's fault. For some reason KZbin keeps deleting comments?

[@rboddington]

@@misterfunnybones I heard the audio, it's still the responsibility of the more easily maneuverable vessel to change course.

[@SaanichtonMinistries]

So sick of the noise from the stupid harbour air float planes. It was 100% the fault of the Harbour Air pilot. This business must be regulated. Rookie Pilots getting minimum wage if they are e lucky… it is a terrible business, and the public should not support it.

[@danielleclare2938]

Planes are totally silent when coming at you the noise happens after it goes by. I had a few go arounds because of people standing in the way at a flyin breakfast or even a fox and a goose were crossing the runway one time and they did not see or hear me coming. And boats make their own noise as well. No way to hear the plane. Real question is who had the right of way???

[@daveroberts7295]

The take off sound of an aircraft travels at the speed of sound in all directions. It might be louder behind the exhaust ports but it still can be heard 360 degrees. Landing aircraft are quieter. A glance at the chart would have indicated air traffic in the area. The sound would have announced a plane in takeoff mode. Planes take off in straight lines as a rule. The boat can change course in an instant, a plane taking off is not a boat, it is limited in turning capacity. He was in the air at impact. I rest my case.

[@goforitrazz]

At the speed of sound or close to it the sound is behind,these aircraft are air born at about 70 mph or a bit less and they are loud.

[@danielleclare2938]

@@daveroberts7295 Boats make noise and you are not a pilot so rest away but those of us with actual experiece may differ.

[@Colinmcdougall6996]

Our beautiful city Vancouver bc

[@cometdust]

Lol at all the armchair accident investigators. The lawyers will be making their week's pay over this.

[@blueabattoir]

I is a expert!

[@Ketowski]

Looks like small aircraft like that will need to be fitted with audible signals to prevent this with increased numbers of pilots and larger population numbers. And maybe all watercraft drivers will need to have training to prevent this unfortunate incident.

[@jessefarsang5143]

There are nautical markings/buoys to prevent this. The boater ventured into the restricted aerodrome waterway. They were also speeding above the 5kt limit. Unfortunately, the pleasure craft captain is at fault.

[@Ketowski]

@@jessefarsang5143 It’s unfortunate for everyone concerned.

[@brobb5767]

Boat driver to be Charged: Attempted Murder. Deliberately drove boat into path of wind powered vessel. Motor must give way to wind.

[@offshorequest]

Does "right of way" rules apply there?

[@rodneyelutz3418]

Not sure,does stupid apply to you? Asking for my friend who's been flying float planes longer than you've been alive!

[@blueabattoir]

rodneyelutz3418 What the futz are you talking about?

[@Elo-hv3fw]

@@rodneyelutz3418 Please stop using U Tube to piss into comments. Thank you.

[@bruced1429]

THe float plane has right of way, boater either tried to get past or did not see the plane either way boater is negilent.

[@kbr1064]

THE ONLY INTELLIGENT COMMENT ON HERE!!! Can you believe everybody else saying it was the pilot’s fault? Ignorant fools. SMH

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@kbr1064 Well except for the FACT that the boat had the right of way Instead of "SHM" maybe you should educate yourself

[@BramStoked-uq4hp]

Do you know the “Rules of the Road” or just making a comment based on feelings?

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@BramStoked-uq4hp 14 CFR PART 91, SECTION 91.115 RIGHT-OF-WAY RULES: WATER OPERATIONS (b) Crossing. When aircraft, or an aircraft and a vessel, are on crossing courses, the aircraft or vessel to the other’s right has the right-of-way.

[@bruced1429]

@@BramStoked-uq4hp I was an investigator for 20 + years.