Shockingly Relevant Lessons from the Civil Rights Movement

[@auroraseyets8516]

10:10 The actual predator, who had their way with black women for centuries, still call black people the predator. Gaslighting at its most heinous.

[@hw6271]

Straight up! This is some wackass nonsense. White women are the WORST so called allies to black women. Just look at the past election. Straight up would sell all black people out at the hint of the possibility of using their whiteness to get ahead.

[@kleerism]

GOP: Gaslight Obstruct Project

[@laurencameron3150]

Had their way with black men too! Buck breaking aka the g(r)aping of black men was very much a thing throughout history

[@bamboosho0t]

They used their insecurities as cudgels against us. Their most vile depravities, they socially superimposed upon us. Because they knew they could get away with it.

[@Divigne]

She thought we weren't going to peep that.

[@TheKaurK]

I am a young brown immigrant woman and my “baggage” in this country looks different from a lot of other people. The more I learn about the history of this country, the more sad and angry I feel, the more grateful I feel for all those who fought for civil rights, and the more determined I feel to do my part and fight for what’s right. There’s no winning here until everyone gets their rights, and feels safe in this world.

[@Hope-Dasher]

You are very unique among black and brown immigrants most don’t acknowledge or disrespect the civil rights movement and refuse to acknowledge that they stand in the blood of immense sacrifice they tell stories about how their parents or grandparents came here and built a life from nothing never realizing that their very existence in this country was forged in the blood and flesh of the Black community that they look down upon

[@Yasmine1962]

Thank you for recognizing the truth behind the illusion of the American Dream. The tools to resist oppression have been built upon the struggles of others. MLKJr was inspired by Ghandi 20 years earlier

[@chayo4537]

WHY ARE YOU IN A COUNTRY YOU DON'T LIKE OR UNDERSTAND?! 😂 AND WHY DON'T YOU ADDRESS THE EUROPEANS FOR BEING THE REASON WHY YOUR BROWN SELF AND COUNTRY SPEAK ENGLISH?

[@byronmcgee4118]

You now understand. Please enlighten your community.

[@byronmcgee4118]

But white women abandoned Kamala Harris when it really counted. There are still trust issues with white women.

[@nic-tv4090]

"Ain't I a Woman?" - Sojourner Truth (1797-1883) at the Women's Rights Convention in 1851. That quote right there sums up the divide between white and non-white women.

[@GameOnRadio1]

It just came to light that the way we know that speech is not what was originally said and isn’t even the true title. The speech did not have a title when Truth delivered it at the Women's Rights Convention in Akron, Ohio on May 29, 1851. Also. Frances Gage who reported on the speech changed most of Truth's words and falsely attributed a Southern slave dialect to her.

[@nic-tv4090]

@@GameOnRadio1 Whether or not the speech was embellished is besides the point...the point is whether its suffrage or the modern era women's movement..in America its really always been the white woman's movement. Non white women have always been an afterthought or a "oh yeah them too" marginalized branch of the women's movement. The funny part is in the next 20 years there's going to another women's movement and its going to have people with penises in it. And non white women will STILL be a marginalized part of it.

[@gloriaf6971]

Yes, Ella Baker was an important person in the Civil Rights movement. Her contribution has been overlooked.

[@LiluBob]

I nearly passed this video by because I at first interpreted it as a slick, well-made attack on feminism and the upholding of the trad-wife trend currently being pushed by Christian nationalists. The well-meaning, reasonable, and civil tone, with an academic polish, is something I have seen used many times to draw people in before springing the trap. But because I didn't hear any typical and much-used catchphrases or veiled innuendos, I decided to let it play out further before making that decision, and boy, am I glad I did. I'm 70 years old; I grew up in a mixed-race family when, in 1960, my stepfather, a brilliant black artist, dated then married my very white mother, also an artist. Growing up in an all-white suburb in the far eastern part of the San Francisco Bay Area gave me a unique view of two worlds and points of view that came together under one roof. My stepfather and I bonded deeply because of his unconditional love and our kindred spirits. From him, I learned about the civil rights movement, Malcolm X, apartheid, racism, and even the women's rights movement and the NOW organization, even though I was a young teenager in the late 60s at the time. I did not learn these things from my mother but from my stepfather. Yet, most of what Amy McPhie Allebest talks about, I remember taking place quite vividly in the everyday interactions in my home between those living there and those who also visited from my extended family. Specific facts about the position paper and who wrote it do not surprise me, although it saddens me greatly. It is something that I run into to this day with very liberal and very earnest white feminist women and men. That is, the assumption that what is true for you is true for everybody regardless of life experience and circumstances. This often unrecognized bias leads many well-intentioned white liberals down the road of condescension and the negating of other legitimate life experiences and points of view. I thought Ms. Allebest both illustrated and explained this phenomenon extraordinarily well, and there were things that I learned from this video that explain questions I have had for a very long time as to why, how, and what happened to cause this painful schism. I cannot thank her enough, and I will continue to watch her videos to learn more and pass them on where and when I can. ❤

[@mactherealestateman]

Yeah, I came to San Francisco in 1969 as a 7mo old I fant. And I do remember the hippies, the Panthers, the Nation, The People's Temple, and many civil rights milestones. I was the 1st generation to grow up in that environment generally free from overt racism.

[@kathebridges4736]

Well done.

[@edwigeguerin894]

❤❤ Thank you verry much for sharing this story and these thoughts with us. If only there were more of you out there.

[@LiluBob]

@ Well, between you and me, that at least makes two, thank you. 👍❤️😊

[@LiluBob]

@@kathebridges4736 so sorry this took so long, life got in the way ❤️

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

Intersectionality is such an important factor in feminism, thank you so much for handling this story with nuance

[@lakitawright6003]

Intersectionality DESTROYED advancement for African Americans! It’s THE reason why black history can’t be taught without feminism (as apposed to womanism) & LGBTQ overshadowing it. IT NEEDS TO STOP!

[@ridge7524]

This is common sense. So if a large section and percentage of w females, some POC females aren't recognizing that, it is about everything but real feminism.,womanism etc A mistake is one time, anything after that isn't a mistake but a choice. Racism,misogny,sexism are tied together All cultures of women better get their head out of their as s because at this point in history, EVERYONE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I Respect the real w women and POC color who are truly our allies .

[@tm1464]

​@@ridge7524I hear you, but you Still have to look at the root cause; Oppression by way of Tortuous WS with the help of the WSs extremely edited versions of Christianity/Catholicism and etc. ~Respect

[@ridge7524]

@tm1464 True. We know who to leave behind and most will have to be for not understanding how dire this situation is for creating it in the first place. To the ones that truly understand, it starts there and it has to be something embedded in the heart for it to succeed. No excuses. Respect back to you🥂💐

[@kathleendonahue5955]

@@ridge7524AMEN!

[@marieugorek5917]

In fact, the feminist and social rights movements which failed or only partially succeeded prior to the 60s failed because they were not sufficiently intertwined... any time we do not understand that we must be together, our ability to accomplish goals falls apart.

[@thecollector6746]

No, they failed because Feminists do what they always do. Wait for "those people" (which were mostly by far Black Men) to do the actual work only to later come in and hijack the movement(s) for themselves. You have done with most recently with Intersectionality, BLM, and MeeToo.

[@tylersills9962]

As with any movement, “United we stand, divided we fall.”

[@ummeshariff]

Who is we??

[@ambushpredator7629]

These movements mainly failed because of infiltrators working from within

[@VMorgenthaler-yp6yz]

You also have to consider the role that social/economic class played at SNCC. These four white woman were undoubtedly from a higher class than their black counterparts in SNCC. And as is usually the case, they made the struggle against oppression of black Americans ALL ABOUT THEMSELVES. Look at us poor white women in this subservient role, while the black folks get all the power to run their liberation movement. Is it any wonder so many black folks couldn't take white people seriously? Especially when four white women were complaining that they weren't being allowed to turn a civil rights for black folks movement into their very own vanity project.

[@AB-rz3dv]

My thoughts exactly! 4 white women pen a letter without including thoughts from any of the black women.....seems that they already knew where the black women stood but were going to try and force their focus to the forefront.

[@LRGFLIGHT4LIFE]

Clean your ears ​@@bnwo

[@MatthewBretton-cu2el]

​@@bnwo lolol do you live on this world? In which dimension do black people get credit for white peoples work? If it was the case in this instance, that's 0.001% of the reverse, so why mention it? But this is from the white perspective of the intersectionality of anti racist and feminist movements so every slight to whites takes prime time.

[@jojoone1099]

​@@bnwo She said they were separated from Black men to prevent lynchings based on miscegenation.

[@abnormpsych17]

@bnwo nah you just ain't listen to the video. White women aren't used to being dehumanized to the level of the average black person 🙄 😒

[@KootFloris]

I'm a white older male and I find this educational, full of lessons and wisdom.

[@blackestknightx8881]

I'm not white and I don't care what the narrator has to say on race relations

[@paxwallace8324]

I'm a 65 yr old half Asian half white guy who grew up in Charlotte NC in the 60s . In 67 I was 7. I was on the 1st desegregation buses. I've made my living as a professional jazz pianist most of my life. It's all close to me. Every single woman I've lived with has been feminist. In my life it's always been about liberation politically culturally and spiritually.

[@KootFloris]

@@paxwallace8324 wonderful!

[@ssynestia]

​@blackestknightx8881 then why are you here?

[@edwigeguerin894]

❤❤❤

[@EvonneLindiwe]

I’m black, indigenous African Woman , and engineer.. ( I phrased my descriptors from the context/ and lenses with which I view my own struggle in the intersectional movement ). I say thank you for explaining what I observed.. particularly with white American women.. and the voting based on demographics..l it explains how they vote, in a way I knew why, but wasn’t able to articulate. You have explained where the separation began and I am grateful.

[@MotswanaTota-012]

Hao Lindiwe, representing us🇿🇦

[@ambushpredator7629]

Unless you know for a fact that you have African roots via genealogy back ground check you are Indigenous. We are the original ppl of the Americas, we are not from Africa, we are not afro or Black. There is no such thing as an Afro of black Indigenous Indian, there is only Indigenous Indians ❤.

[@lorelange]

​@@ambushpredator7629 oh boy 🤦🏿‍♀️ smh

[@trunks1109]

​​@@ambushpredator7629 A person would then also need to prove their genealogical indigenous ancestry. It is not solely implied based on lived experience and family history, unlike our African ancestry.

[@demoawo4968]

​@@ambushpredator7629 Many of us can trace our ancestry back centuries, our ancestors were here far below the advent of colonisation. We are Africans, and we are proud. We do not need to claim any other continent because we know where we are from, and we have no reason to deny our heritage. Our origins are not something to be ashamed of or deny.

[@RasheedGazzi]

Beware black sisters. Bonnie will always roll with Clyde.

[@kyrabarr2846]

👀👀👀👀😔

[@Ravenelvenlady]

Don't worry Sis. More of us are hip to this.

[@RasheedGazzi]

@@kyrabarr2846 🤷?

[@kyrabarr2846]

@@RasheedGazzi it's hidden in plain sight, and people don't want to see it. I understand the point that you were making and I agree 💯

[@ChristopherCade1959]

In this election 2024 the intersectionality was on the ballot. White women voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump. FACT! Please don't get it twisted. 🙄🤬

[@Shoshanavox]

I think really critical also, is the way you tell the story. Your judgements are easily understood as you do it with compassion and an eye for all. What a model for allyship, and humanity. Thank you!

[@brianarbenz1329]

Agree!

[@mayajewell6911]

I struggle with the characterizations of how much black and white women were ‘close’ or ‘loved each other’. This is impossible to know unless your sources are the black women themselves, or other black women who were confidants of those women. I have no doubt that many white women would ascribe an intimacy to those relationships that black women would not.

[@dariuschurch4119]

It’s bs

[@tylersills9962]

As a multi-ethnic person, I want to thank you personally for doing what I can tell was your absolute best to cover the facts and feelings of all sides involved. My nature of having basically all parts of the American “races” means I’m in constant internal conflict by nature. I have to watch a lot of content that doesn’t consider the cultural significance of one of my ancestors. I appreciate you for the “bigger pictureism” you displayed by attempting to be as impartial as possible.

[@HonestLeighSpeaking]

The history of snic shows the nuance needed to understand history. Thank you for handling it with care, respect and truth 🫡

[@Sheldonna-cg8lm]

Continue your educated rebuttal of patriarchy. I am cheering for you 🎉😊

[@kerstinhammer4034]

I could not really help asking myself if the latest events in history did not tell us that the black women at SNCC did what we always do best: putting the greater need above our own - with disastrous results?

[@thecollector6746]

Yeah, let's forget about all those Black Men who did all the heavy lifting, bled and died for the Civil Rights movement. LOL...Feminists never fail at being self centered, perpetual navel gazers.

[@ChristopherCade1959]

Agree!

[@nzingahoney]

Yh their pushback against WW back in the day seems a bit man centered looking at it with what's happened now.

[@thecollector6746]

@@nzingahoney Oh...I dunno...maybe it was more man-centered because WW were attacking BM ? It's interesting how BW these days are more likely to disparage BM than WW are these days but then want to cry that BM aren't protecting BW.

[@nzingahoney]

@thecollector6746 if BM are abusing and killing BW at a higher rate than ever before then that's just facts, not disparagement. And it's a fact BM should make sure they not part of by ensuring they DO protect BW when they can, online or offline. Apart from that I am thinking about the election and how some BM voted against reproductive rights for women. I mean if they could think anything could justify that, why should BW have been standing up for them in BLM marches and other things that defend BM?

[@dollarwil1234]

I'm an African American Man. As such, I spend a lot of time in "The Black Manosphere." You did a good job summarizing a complex, multifaceted, volatile issue. You've earned my subscription. I will share this video with others in the space.

[@LeonardGalit]

The Baha'i Faith teaches that all forms of prejudice must be eliminated; that includes racism, gender inequality and the Faith says that mankind is one family and the whole earth is one home.

[@lasfloresdicen]

notable exception: homosexuality

[@ellismarsalis6064]

Yes it may “teach” that it must be eliminated but do they teach you how? Do they show method and practice?

[@geekmeee]

And Christianity teaches, ‘there is no Jew or Gentile, but we are all one in Jesus Christ.’

[@ummeshariff]

Patriarchy is nothing but male nature placed on everybody. Can men evolve and govern their nature?? Men need to understand that they are not leaders, but that was forced upon women through patriarchy.

[@susanware1988]

You probably meant 'humankind'; I find it strange that so many decades after conscious attempts to foster non-sexist, inclusive language, too many people cling to saying 'mankind' and 'men' when talking about people in general. I notice this especially in American culture.

[@jaiyabyrd4177]

*The Civil Rights Movement and the Feminist Movement was not the same nor was it on the same Accord* The Feminist Movement was racially divided. Black American Women fought for racial equality which was intersectioned with Black American Women Equality White Women did not fight for the betterment of Black American Women but those white women fought for racial equality for Blacks

[@ChristopherCade1959]

That part!

[@MrUndersolo]

New sub, and thank you for sharing this! I have read about Alice Walker's time in the movement, and I think that she understood what was happening better than most of the so-called leaders who thought that lines could be drawn in the sand that would stand up to any test.

[@jamspringz]

I thought that as a black male, now in my 50s, I was going to be disappointed with the treatment of this topic. So, I initially scrolled past this video. However, against my initial thoughts, I gave it a listen. Surprisingly it was well done in detail and nuance. The "anding" of black (African American) interest in our initiatives and movements have been the achilles injury that has sidelined us significantly in the game of our own progress. To simplify what I mean by "anding" I will use an example. Imagine going to an American Diabetes association meeting and a group of people come in wanting to talk about Cancer. The diabetes advocates are sympathetic towards the plight of those with cancer, but would they ever alter their mission and focus because of their sympathy. No, they would not become the American Diabetes "and" Cancer association. There is a history of social movements by gender identity and minorty immigrant groups opportunistically tying themselves to African American interests. Their intentions have not been to genuinely help our causes but to advance their own. Once their agenda is accomplished group wise, they would distance themselves, if not entirely turn on us when it mattered to show solidarity with African Americans. The sense of betrayal we've know to this day, because of their alliegance to the racial hierarchy and kowtowing to white adjacency has been maddening. What SNCC understood and managed well with white advocates in their group was the externalities of threats and public perception. However, the internal management of solidarity and staff/volunteer issues was a disaster. Well meaning and green white women did not understand how their voice on a splintering issues could impactingly jack hammer the foundations of the entire organization. Feminism vs. Womanism (though the term wasn't coined yet) is a conversation that should've took place between white and black women in SNCC. The power of white women voices post the published thoughts behind womanism can be witnessed as feminism overshadowed womanism in black communities. This development lies the rub when it comes to the disruption and destablization of black marriages and families. This is a case of when helping hurts.

[@AC-ur2mz]

This was a great glimpse at how we got here in América. Your postín was even and I appreciate your voice in this space.

[@AngryManSki]

This was well done 👍🏾. Excellent work. You’ve added two books to my reading list. Thanks 🙏🏾

[@tm1464]

LYNCHING NEVER ENDED!!!..... ❤️Ebony Family Be Careful and Be Safe❤️

[@V4VestA]

Facts. 💯

[@AmeliaHouck-o9j]

Facts you need to know : any people who live in the back and beyond , have to take justice into their own hands, so back in them thar days , if have this big mean nasty bully who is causing everyone trouble and no police anywhere near, what did they have to do to these maniacs?? white or black , got some bad men, both would get rid of them , hanging or shooting ( but never waste a bullet ) so mr ebony , black communities had to keep the peace anyway they could and black people did get rid of them , really what choice did they have , so lets so easy on both our ancestors having to deal with the good for nothings!! So get a reality check and there are books written etc. really black racist hate is going to be the ruin of you , why? MLK WAS A COMMUNIST AND HE RUINED THE BLACK FAMILY , WHO YOU REALLY NEED TO READ AND WATCH ,AS I WAS THERE AND SAW HIM AND DID NOT CARE IF HE WAS IN THE BLACK ISLAMIST MOVEMENT , ISIASH , THE LEADER WANTED MALCOLM TO FOLLOW HIM AS THE LEADER MALCOLM WAS A THINKER AND HE WAS SO FURIOUS WITH MLK, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE , YOU COMMUNIST PIG, BLACK ISLAM IS ARE NOT COMMUNISTS ! SO MLK SOLD YOU DOWN THE RIVER AND MALCOLM WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ?? BLACKS HAD BUSINESSES , FAMILIES WERE IN GOOD SHAPE( HAVE YOU READ DR. THOMAS SOWELL , AS HE KNOWS EVERYTHING AND YOU NEED SOME EDUCATIN!!! ) , SO BLACKS WERE DOING GREAT AND SO WERE WHITES , BOTH HAD BUSINESSES AND BOTH RESPECTED THE OTHER !! THEY HAD RESPECT FOR EACH OHTER UNTIL: MLK AND YOU WENT BACK ON THE PLANTATION AND BECAME WHITES ARE OUR NANIES AND WE ALWAYS NEED HELP, YOU DID AFTER YOU TOOK WELFARE , COMMIES , NO MEN IN HOME WAS THE MLK #1 CONDITION NO MEN /FATHERS IN THE HOME AND MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, 70% OF BLACK WOMEN ON WELFARE AND 70% OF BLACK MEN COMMITT 50% OF ALL CRIMES !! SO YOU GOT WHAT?? YOU GOT WELFARE OR DO THIS AND THE WOMEN GET THIS , AND YOU DID IT AND NOW MAY I ASSURE YOU, 76% OF THE POPULATION IS NOT BLACK , YOU ARE 13% AND LOOK AT THE STATS I JUST WROTE !!!! SO EBONY , YOU ON THE WELFARE PLANTATION ??? SOON , NO MORE OF YOUR FREE??? 30% OF BLACKS ARE GOOD, DECENT , HARD WORKING , KIND, GREAT PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE STAINED THEM WITH YOUR HATE AND BTW: 1 OUT OF 5O BLACKS IN USA ARE MILLIONAIERS, SURPIRISE, MUST BE THOSE HOUSE WORKERS , GET IT??? SEE GET OFF THE PLANTATION BY DR THOMAS SOWELL , OUR GREATEST BLACK THINKER AND YOU MAKE YOUR ANCESTORS WEEP !! THEY WEEP !!

[@GgOlb-b7i]

As if they don't lunch other races of people through different dynamics

[@MAAT1111]

​@@GgOlb-b7iWE'RE NOT TALKING METAPHORICALLY LADY, WE'RE TALKING A YOUNG BLACK MAN WAS HUNG IN A TREE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO....STOP TRYING TO MINIMALIZE MY NEPHEW'S MURKER PLS..😢

[@Zombieflesheaters123]

@@GgOlb-b7iMinorities need to stop this division BS. If we don’t stand together, we will never get anything done.

[@sweetjalight]

I think that a missed opportunity in this video is the fail to mention that while it may have been true that the blk women were not just typing they also did not receive the credit or recognition for their work and leadership in the movement. And there were definitely blk women disturbed and upset by that. But as mentioned instead of the white women coming to the blk women to “link arms” they were very short sighted. Another good book is the black macho and the myth of the superwoman by Michele Wallace. She touches on freedom summer in her book in this specific topic.

[@msthang5366]

I will check it out

[@christinamclean]

I found this video very interesting because I am familiar with SNCC at Shaw University and am an alumnus of St. Augustine's. The discussion of intersectionality is often overlooked, and it is something I have explored a lot when completing coursework for my MSW, and I see how this topic is complex. As I have heard often recently, "Two things can both be true" situation when discussing race and gender. I think this video has added a powerful introduction of ideas I will continue exploring. Thank you for adding your voice to the conversation.

[@joeblow5087]

As Shirley Chisholm said regarding the difference between black men's and white men's reaction to the women's movement, "A man is always a man."

[@joeshmoe4062]

I love how she skips over a few facts, one that white women considered themselves as not only a part of the patriarchy, but that first wave feminism sought to strengthen it with their “balance”. Two, that white feminists often employed the same “patriarchy” they claimed to abhor, by calling for lynchings of black men who they believed were sexual predators, in order to protect the purity of white women.

[@joeshmoe4062]

WW have consistently not only upheld the patriarchy, but have stated that feminism was needed to improve upon the patriarchy, to give you a source, you can read “ Feminism as racist backlash” by dr Tommy j curry or watch the video where he lays out his argument with citations by well respected feminist to get some clarity.

[@nzingahoney]

I mean... you gotta actually be sure you have support for the right to live before you can move out of secretary mode. Duh.

[@stregalilith]

Thank you so much for clarifying the facts around Stokley Carmichael’s old oft- repeated remark. It puts it-and him-in an entirely new light. I’m so glad you did that deep dive on the civil rights movement and the women who did the heavy lifting there. Hopefully we can once again join together as sisters to work for change that benefits all❤❤❤

[@thecollector6746]

No, Women never did the heavy lifting. That's a lie. Women weren't the ones being sprayed by water hoes, and having dogs set on them. Black Women weren't the ones who were going out in armed neighborhood patrols and getting into literal fire fights with The Klan. Black Women ere not the ones being murdered. Black Men were doing THE REAL WORK, but of course "we" can never, ever admit that.

[@kristinbracy5189]

These issues still plague movements with mixed racial groups of women today. White women have continued to have blind spots when it comes to intersectional feminism and the things that directly affect Black women and other women of color.

[@lucasfrank8843]

That true because today it is still the case that black men suffer the most from racism, and instead of addressing that, black women will demand that white women restrict themselves and black men to second class citizenship.

[@bodyguardbrocksamson]

_Blind spots_ or sinister subversive intentions? 🤔

[@ramunebradfordtake2710]

​@@bodyguardbrocksamson That part. I always say that when it comes to white women participating, I always remember suffrage movement. White women lied before to advance their gain their own personal safety and advantage. They threw black women under the bus for their own gains. Which makes anyone think that white women won't do it again, unfortunately, are kidding themselves. It sad but mostly true. White supremacist ideology is a drug.

[@joeshmoe4062]

WW have consistently not only upheld the patriarchy, but have stated that feminism was needed to improve upon the patriarchy, to give you a source, you can read “ Feminism as racist backlash” by dr Tommy j curry or watch the video where he lays out his argument with citations by well respected feminist to get some clarity.

[@TheeOldest]

Thank you for sharing your research and for the encouragement at the beginning to engage with this story. I didn’t expect to get to the end but then I did and could have kept going. Will check out the books and history more too. Love your takeaways. My first response was that inclusion could have helped the manifesto. I loved your insights about how backgrounds and experiences are so influential to our response to injustice. And it’s definitely something to be curious about in our interactions with other humans ❤

[@edwigeguerin894]

Thank you for this video ❤. Your kindness, compassion and intelligence really moved me.

[@hellomordecai]

I wanna confess that when I started watching this I was triggered - exposing my hesitation to get advice from a white woman on such matters but you were spot on and super impartial.Thank you for giving me the opportunity to work through this and meet you on the other side. Good luck with the work you do.

[@irishhi8333]

Went to a feminist meeting in 1973 or '74. As a 17 year old black (almost a) woman I couldn't directly relate to the women I met and the discussion they were having. My life and the lives of the women I grew up around was distinctly divergent from their experience. Still I felt their struggle applied to aspects of the world I knew.

[@mcjohn5420]

This is excellent work, thank you. This history is reminiscent of the struggle within the American Equal Rights Association, which advocated for the recognition of civil rights for both women and African-Americans between 1866 and 1869. In the immediate aftermath of the Civil War and the abolition of chattel enslavement, Susan B. Anthony and Frederick Douglass, with years of difficult activism between them, sought to gain voting rights for both women and newly emancipated formerly enslaved people. The organization lasted only three years before crumbling from internal stress fractures. If brilliant, creative, experienced activists like Anthony and Douglass were unable to thread a path through competing participant histories and priority management, I don't know that anyone could figure it out. That's not a reason not to try, of course.

[@blackretrodivaflame2514]

The commentator did an amazing job with telling this story. She understood and touched each point with empathy. Thank you for making this video. I’m not sure if the wounds can be healed between black and white women. White women continue to show who is more important to them. This was made more apparent with the way they voted for Trump. Showing empathy for people is not a switch you can cut on and off like a light, it has to stay with you like your heart. You treat it like it’s a part of you at all times. White women have and will always follow the money of white men no matter what food or bad. They are trying to survive. In the past few years white men have shown that only concern is self. I see more white women on the internet crying about marriage to the white man than ever before. We continue to repeat history. Black women are over it and no longer want to be apart of the same old game that no one is winning. White men are loosing their grip and want to continue taking women’s rights away and that’s not good for anyone.

[@gammayin3245]

I am a white retired single woman living in Northern California and only know of 1 black person within my neighborhood. The historic red lining has disrupted the ability of people to intermix. This is one of the most egregious aspects of healing and I suspect that oligarchy likes it that way.

[@brianarbenz1329]

Your analysis is brilliant, and a tribute to what can be done to avert polarization when the time is taken to look at a complex matter with depth and nuance. Thank you! In this period when hot buttons and sectarian splits dominate discourse, your channel has revived my confidence and hope.

[@brianarbenz1329]

For what silliness this is worth, the first time I saw your last name, I thought it said "ableist." For a fleeting instant, I thought: "Oh well, that that must be her moral failing." That's why we should _always_ take the time to understand what we see online!

[@ultramarinewaters9325]

A thought provoking and well thought out history. I learned a lot through the different viewpoints presented. Thank you!

[@DarrylsB]

Excellent! The only additions I would suggest are Ida B. Wells Barnett and Pauli Murray in importance and the arc of history. Your video also enlightens me on the voices of Sweet Honey in the Rock. Songs are important in the movement.

[@ts6919]

Yes, Ida B. had to write herself back into herstory after Susan B. Anthony AND Carter G. Woodson tried to write her out. Thank God she knew the power of the pen or her contributions & story may have been lost to us forever.

[@StrudelNoodle]

Your videos are soooo good! Ty!!!❤❤❤

[@norrinRadd026]

You should pitch this to PBS. It is that good.

[@benjaminollis]

Why should the tax payer fund such junk?

[@Watch4Me]

YT is the new PBS. It's free and universally available.

[@biologicalwoman4364]

Thank you for this eye opening accounting. Very moving

[@MegaGraceiscool]

One thing that worries me about the "womanism" definition is that it ignores that black men are often the oppressors of black women. You can't separate them from the violence black women face. Having a movement that's meant to ignore this on the basis of not being man-haters is a movement doomed to fail, and given that nobody talks about womanism now, that's exactly what happened. I mean, it seems like the start of this whole divide started with the insensitive words of a black man...

[@kikijewell2967]

Edit: Thank you for sharing this nuance.

[@narlywaves2371]

Absolutely. White women are in tough spot though bc they look racist when they talk about it. If blk women don't care about their own victimization, how can white women speak louder for them.

[@narlywaves2371]

Today we shouldn't ignore it for sure. But, we need to have understanding and grace for those blk women back then. You really need to put yourself in that time period and realize blk women didn't really have the luxury to fully call out those men. Use your common sense. Seriously think about it. So, they have no male protection besides blk men. They're fighting white supremacy and you think it was gonna be so flawless to also fight blk men misogyny and have all that work out neatly and perfectly for all involved. Lol. 🤦🏾‍♀️ You're thinking too delusionally..and not stepping into that time... You're thinking about it likes it's 2024. The risk was too great to do all these battles at the same time. Black women had no power and safety to call out white men and blk men at the same time. You're kinda delusional. We need to look back at this as a sad predicament for them.

[@TyffanyHoward]

I appreciate your opinion; however, I feel the definition of "womanism" has been misunderstood. It doesn't ignore that many so-called Black men are also oppressors of many so-called Black women or excuse the oppressive behavior. ( I use the term "so-called" because race is a social construct, an illusion). The definition speaks of "not attacking Black men." In my opinion, one can hold someone accountable without attacking them. It's not mentioned in this video, but in my opinion, the divide began even before the Civil Rights Movement. For example, the Suffragette movement.

[@RasheedGazzi]

Give me a break.

[@Gwen3344]

Very insightful. Very healing. It's a very real feeling of relief to finally hear articulated what I, as an African American, have long felt but could never fully articulated. I've regarded the cause of the rift between Black and White women as a basic and implicit lack of lack of trust; an intuition and belief that when the proverbial you know what hits the fan, the white woman would align herself with white men, whiteness and her own privilege. Of course, with the recent election, this is exactly, or at least mostly, what we saw. Can this distrust be healed, the gulf bridged? In a strictly socio-political context, no. However(!), as we humans raise our collective consciousness beyond survival and status needs, as we evolve more fully into spiritual beings, distrust will naturally dissolve. In the meanwhile, we each do what we can, what we must, to heal our own inner wounds, mend the broken places. One-by-one, one-on-one, we will make progress. Learning these important lessons from history have a vital role to play. And so, I will definitely add the two recommended books to my reading list. Importantly, I commit to actually reading them. Thank you, Amy. I applaud your greater intention and good will. New subscriber!

[@ericcarlson6822]

Fascinating video! Thanks for sharing.

[@YoungBillyKatastrophe]

Soooo these women just joined a movement and then imposed their WS mentality, which is right on brand.. Nobody asked them to join anything smh

[@TyffanyHoward]

I feel this is a meaningful and much needed conversation; the topic has been on my mind for a while. I appreciate the care and consideration. How do we heal and move forward? By the way, "The Creation of Patriarchy" by Gerda Lerner is amazing. You may have already read it. Thank you! Peace and love to and for ALL sentient beings!

[@marlyjeudy2235]

Thanks for this conversation! and for educating the public.

[@monicasmith7050]

Thank you for the video

[@joeshmoe4062]

WW have consistently not only upheld the patriarchy, but have stated that feminism was needed to improve upon the patriarchy, to give you a source, you can read “ Feminism as racist backlash” by dr Tommy j curry or watch the video where he lays out his argument with citations by well respected feminist to get some clarity.

[@humblelivity]

I like the way you flesh out your topics. I'm glad I found your channel.

[@trenae77]

As a White Woman myself, it’s plain to see that what is uncomfortable to me does not trump what is point of survival to another. Do I like being put down by men or having men chosen over me? Absolutely not, but does it endanger my life?

[@2naija]

For this video I subscribed. The women writing such anonimous positions without bringing black women into it created the rift. I am glad you saw the reasons for black women reluctance to prioritise that position paper. Also I am concerned, knowing how history has turned out, that Delott was there to create that rift in the first place. Why omit their names? Why only white women? etc. One could see this coming from a mile away that it could cause a rift.

[@staceydavis4414]

Wow!! You make it sound so soft and gentle. Anything to make you feel human.

[@odnanrf1]

Well done; thank you

[@drgskates]

Thank you for providing this information! It makes a lot of sense to me how the movement stumbled because we [people at large] tend to think our personal struggles are what others are thinking about when that is not always the case. We must adopt a collaborative mindset and limit alienating/othering our peers/comrades.

[@sharonpollock9543]

I learn from your comments! Thank you and as always I’m sorry and vow to grow and learn.🙏❤️

[@greenspiritarts]

Thank you so much for making this video. I grew up in the late 60s in a northern, rural part of America that was mostly white, though my best friend in high school was one of two black students. I was all in for Kamala and was incredibly moved by her phenomenal run for office…. And like so many was deeply grief-stricken when the outcome was not what we expected. But I could not understand the backlash from black women and their anger towards white women (yes, I understand the voting demographics) but the anger by black women towards white women seemed very deep yet I did not understand it. Your video fills in so many gaps in my understanding. THANK YOU! I hope women and men of all skin types and cultural backgrounds can find solidarity in opposing patriarchy and misogyny. 💖

[@e.458]

... as well as racism, white supremacy, and any other form of bigotry. I'm sure you were about to mention that.

[@dailyjerk]

You seemed to have a beautiful upbringing. I believe Americans would have voted for a black qualified woman of color. I’m black these conversations I was having with my mom, aunties and cousins. These conversations will never be heard. If I went to my own black community publicly it was a different conversation. We all knew she was not the best we have. Socially the news reports what they think. Please understand there are secret conversations blacks are not ever comfortable telling others about. If you want to know the truth it’s not what is shared publicly.

[@chayo4537]

Whats up with white people in AMERICA claiming they had to "learn"... ?😂 talking about you "didn't know" something... who do you think you're fooling?! 😂 still?...

[@MatthewBretton-cu2el]

​@@e.458 she said what she said.

[@kenpack108]

I found this to be refreshingly insightful! Thank you!

[@Justjo4321]

Thank you for this information and insight!!

[@a.crawley5064]

Very informative video. Tho sadly not surprising info. From what I can tell, black ppl will support vast movements against injustice, but then don’t get the same support back. Which has led to more fractures, especially in the black communities. Good advice ya gave at the end tho.

[@MrTwenty20video]

This was a very good subject. Was presented very well. Thank you.

[@Tulpen23]

Fantastic video and explanation! Thank you 🙏

[@susancoleman6936]

youre doing a great job. Thank you.

[@gevdarg]

Good luck with your efforts. I've tried to explain the dynamics that unfolded, and are still unfolding today (BLM), but it's for naught. Sometimes, you can't fight two battles at the same time because there are competing interests. Learn how to be allies in empowering others to be true stakeholders. Then, hope and pray they return the favor when it's your turn 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@simplyblooming1649]

Beautiful discourse. Thank you! 🙏🏾🤗

[@pauljackson4075]

Thank you for this previously unknown by me perspective!

[@saturdayschild8535]

Thoughtful presentation. I’m glad I watched.

[@TrekCannon]

Weird how so many great things boil down to black ppl either fighting for freedom or inventing things to make their days easier. You're all quite welcome 😊

[@neilmondesir3049]

So very well put together. I did not know this.

[@nutmegz9534]

Thank you so much!

[@Euvari]

I don't know if the dead naming of Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) is intentional. It is generally seen as a sign of disrespect, which is why it's rarely done to the likes of Malcolm X or Muhammad Ali.

[@MegaGraceiscool]

Very interesting, I never heard of this before...

[@randomoldlady_]

Thank you! Hard work ahead hard work behind

[@narlywaves2371]

The white women seemed to only care bc they were being affected. Although they might have been well intentioned, they probably were over stepping a little bit. It was a very complicated situation. Its not that the black women didn't care... they indeed had their own battles with those blk men. It's the fact that all this would've just hurt movement and the greater goal. It would've been very difficult telling the country these men were sexist and needed white people's help at the same time. You can't do all that at the same time. But, dont assume blk women just happily accepted blk men's misogyny. Bc they absolutely did not. You're talking about women that still hold social power coming in trying to police things. It's just too complicated. They did the right thing to talk to them and encourage them to stand up for themselves. Sometimes you have to fight one battle at a time.. and that's what blk women were doing. Do you know the implications of calling blk men misogynistic at the time. It would not have been helpful at all to the cause...it would've given white people more excuses for their racism. Now, that's common sense. Even today, blk women are unfortunately protective of blk men bc of race loyalty and racism. Today, i disagree with this type of silence. It's not helpful for us today.

[@TMFJ747]

Well said ❤

[@hannahlang4703]

You’re using the same faulty rationale while people used to stave off black progress; wait your turn. Hilarious

[@saphire2214]

@@hannahlang4703BW understood that we couldn’t fight the patriarchy from six feet under. Our right to live has always been the priority. We are black first, then women. This is fundamentally what WW failed to understand in pursuit of their own agenda. Liberation for all should be the goal.

[@mrmrsplummer3526]

That's very interesting.. Thank you this was very informative.

[@utubeme28]

Excellent video, very informative and inspiring, thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom/thoughts on this very important issue. on the

[@hayskig1226]

I used to know Stokley and I’m happy to see him talked about.

[@alexwixom4599]

Lets pass eachother our lenses like kids with glasses. It's the only way to understand how we distort the world.

[@tosantutse-tonwe6897]

comprehensive and insightful

[@levmoses742]

Hi Amy, I thought you were of Latin & decent. In any case, I love that KZbin sent you my way. The timing is impeccable! Thank you!

[@karencannon9415]

I was a kid when all this happened but coming from a Black Baptist background I can see why this happened and why Shirley Chisom had such a hard time with the Women Movement!😊

[@Neema150]

Thank you for this educational video.

[@roseberry5253]

They should make a movie or a series about this organization.

[@CrystalZ-wh7bh]

I appreciate your balanced, progressive approach to the issue. Thank you 💚.

[@snogletree]

As a black woman I Thank you first for sharing your thoughts and this information.

[@mellod5615]

Thanking a white woman for sanitizing their willful and persistent violence toward Black women. Hate to see it smh

[@ssss13861]

Wow. Thank you so much for this. I always wondered about this but didn’t know anything beyond the tidbits I see on social media & reading some articles about the problems with the women’s march and the anger that my black friends feel towards white feminists. Knowledge is so important!

[@PuppiesinSpace]

Thank you for creating this.

[@bebaba1962]

Feminism is the driving force for achieving the Human Rights Declaration. Thank you Eleanor Roosevelt! ❤

[@Charles-tt3dr]

BS!! Feminism is one of the root causes of the division between Black men & Black women. Feminism is a diametrically opposed to the Black family..

[@MatthewBretton-cu2el]

Wow? Really?

[@robertberger8642]

Thank you for this lesson!

[@darrylwilliamson2272]

Simply, excellent.

[@originalcosmicgirl]

I tried to like this video, but for some reason the like button isn't registering it, so I'm making this comment in hopes that it helps you with the algorithm. Excellent work.

[@bnwo]

9:40 Anyone wonder why ever every movie movie has a black female and a white guy?

[@ummeshariff]

Tell us

[@alexaf7400]

This was all very interesting. I think from observing history and my own experiences is a lot of white women dont actually listen to anyone and still like to be seen as victims while having a form of oppression on others. The part that was stated about white women participating in the destruction of Africans who were forced into America is the equivalent to me in a way when they feel entitled getting others to do what they want but because they’re not “hurting” anyone it’s ok. Example is harassing people and then calling the cops because they fell threatened. Telling black people to separate themselves is very telling about these women. If they couldn’t see that people standing up for themselves no matter age, gender, class, demographic against people who look like them because they don’t want to be killed for existing then to me these women either didn’t stand for anything to begin with or forgot their main reason for joining the movement and that’s truly a shame.

[@Poopworld7889]

Great way to repackage and shine a light on american justice movements. And highlighting the strength in union. 👌🏽

[@moif_velocita]

This was a helpful video for me (as a Dane) to understand the context behind so many arguments I've seen played out in American culture, and which seem incomprehensible to me at the time. I wonder how much of what Amy says can relate to the sexism/racism debate in Denmark also 🤔

[@thabrutha2002]

Interestingly discussion and analysis by Amy the books she recommended will be a good read.

[@Andropov-l2w]

these groups that call themselves non violent have to say that out of fear. living in fear wont change anything