Elder Scrolls Lore: Ch.22 - Tribunal - Rulers of Morrowind

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Sotha Sil. Almalexia. Vivec. Powerful, immortal deities born not of celestial providence, but of flesh and blood and pain. Much has been written of the Tribunal, and how three mere mortals dared reach out and grasp the power of gods with an act so brazen they transformed the world of Tamriel forevermore.
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[@ShoddyCast]

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[@naseemhemani]

epic for a role like azura

[@Wolvenmoth]

at first hand I say yes, it would be interesting

[@SPriested]

She sounds really good as Azura, and the british accent is a huge plus! =)

[@sagivn.s2237]

9/10

[@Foxy123101]

She sounded really good. At first I thought it was the voice of Azura from Morrowind.

[@PantherFox]

Doesn't explain well enough the disturbing theory that the tribunal themselves planned the death of Nerevar in order to gain access to the heart, and that Dagoth was his last true servant, staying by the heart to deny them access even though it ultimately twisted him into something unrecognisable

[@113Branty]

Wasn't it the Tribunal who murdered Nerevar? Vivec pretty much admits it.

[@noleramay6872]

The generally accepted theory is that after the Tribunal killed Nerevar and attained divinity, Vivec achieved CHIM and caused a Dragon Break by going back in history to "rewrite" those events. Thus he says that he both killed and did not kill Nerevar since both are technically true.

[@113Branty]

Aah right. So I've heard of this CHIM, but not sure what it is exactly. It's when someone realises they're in a fake world and this gives them the ability to shape it as they see fit?

[@noleramay6872]

Mike Brant Yeah, CHIM in a nutshell is the realization that everything (including yourself) is just the imagination of a figure called the "Godhead" and to retain your existence (I don't exist, but I exist, ie. looking at 1-1 = 0 but still saying that it'll equal 1). Otherwise you'll "zero-sum" and disappear as there's no way you can still logically continue to live. To achieve CHIM is pretty much to become a god. Look at Tiber Septim for one.

[@113Branty]

I have no idea what you just said :')

[@noleramay6872]

lol sure. If you're interested though, check out the Imperial Library's website. Pretty cool stuff there.

[@beep-beep]

Should do a video on how Vivec "bit off" Molag Bal's "spear". It's Canon.

[@madscientistshusta]

The Hiphopopotamus haha and how he gave his head to Malag bal to "know" for 3 days...btw to know someone biblically means to fuck them lolol

[@TheProGamerOfSpore]

Guess what Muatra represents

[@NarsMcain]

Where do I read about this?

[@ivy3134]

@@NarsMcain Lessons of Vivec, sermon 12-14

[@NarsMcain]

@@ivy3134 thanks Cait, appreciate it.

[@TacoHawk76]

7:11 "He might have have been born Chimer, but Sotha Sil was Dwemer through and through." *dies*

[@Lightscribe225]

Well he was. He spent all his time in his Clockwork city. He loved his Dwemer crap more than his own people.

[@viveka2994]

@@Lightscribe225 he was born chimer

[@trashcant69]

@@Lightscribe225 he did not, sotha sil loved his people much more than the other two parts of the tribunal

[@msb539]

He's a wannabe dwemer. Even with his god powers he never came close to the genius of dwarves like Kagrenac

[@Dynamodog7]

@msb539 didnt he surpass kagrenac? Kagrenac's the one who vanished. Sil was the one who uncovered the secret. Plus he used to be a teacher in the psijic order and was also taught by the dwemer.

[@alnotbiggaytho7124]

"You have chosen your fate, and the fate of your people, and all the dunmer shall share your fate from now to the end of time. You think yourself gods, but you are blind and all is darkness." -Azura Such an epic quote

[@valibrave]

I always thought azura's revenge was BS. "You angered me and broke you oath so I'm going to.... slightly change your skin and eye colour. I'm so good at punishment."

[@defrte]

makes sense they are her followers in the end, and unlike the other daedra, shes more benevolent. If it was boethiah, well, there might not be any followers in the end. what more to change the entire race as a reminder of the power of a daedra, and the betrayal they had committed in the past they were cursed

[@ChickenWilickers]

exactly, that her ridiculous revenge plan that would take thousands of years.

[@ryguy1483]

Idk what you're talking about. Having your whole identity (to some extent) change in an instant for breaking a vow is pretty harsh.

[@ChickenWilickers]

Ryan Seneczko Yes, but the moment you realize that you have a trio of gods that love you and are willing to do everything to give you a better life, you'd think its a pretty good trade.

[@ryguy1483]

good point

[@DomyTheMad420]

Hey ShoddyCast, a small thank you from a longtime fan. After hundreds of hours of gameplay the games had almost lost it's magic to me, untill you Blasted me in my face with all the lore that I have missed x3 Thanks alot, and keep it up

[@Nostaw03]

I met the Tribunal the other day is TESO, they were nice! A bit full of themselves :p

[@MrDefault08]

Almalexia kind of rubbed me the wrong way...but ill get my revenge in a few hundred years >:)

[@charlie7329]

They are gods, what did you expect.

[@lukemcinerny8220]

This is just one version of the tale you know.

[@kylem.7466]

Stating that there's more than one version to the tale isn't Tribunal propaganda, but anti-Tribunal propaganda. Minus 35 likes for lack of forethought.

[@harlemraider3347]

For season 3, could you guys do a video on each of the three Empires (Alessian, Reman & Septim)? Granted the Alessian Empire is very obscure but there is a lot of info on the Reman dynasty.

[@JacobSky5110]

Yeah, let's spend another 6+ episodes talking about the Imperials. -bangs head on table-

[@Medieval3d3d]

Don't mess with the Imperials!!

[@Sidorio]

Another fantastic episode guys, well done. It's been very interesting learning about the Dunmer lore from you guys in this awesome visual style. I've read up about all the races before now but it's very different experiencing the information in this way. I eagerly look forward to the next episode!

[@tetsuoswrath]

You know how there's a real religion based on Star Wars' Force? Jediism. How long till Elder Scrolls births a new religion? Someone you know survives a near death situation and you're all like: "Mara be praised!" Only to get the looks of WTF?

[@SYMBIOTEDINOSAUR]

+tetsuoswrath Perhaps someday someone will find the heart of a god in some ruin and craft tools to tamper with it and become living gods.

[@tetsuoswrath]

***** lol :l

[@Heffsta02]

+tetsuoswrath plan on using the Mara vows for my wedding :P

[@tetsuoswrath]

Heffsta02 Sweet. Congrats. :{

[@tetsuoswrath]

أحيرام أبيود I'm partial to Y'ffre meself. :{

[@darkinin]

"...she found comfort in Vivec and Sotha Sil, and the three of them-" Entered into a polyamorous relationship.

[@xanderellem3646]

this video is so sympathetic to the tribunal and i have no wonder did we play the same game? the tribunal were borderline monsters by my interpretation.

[@AngelCakes1997]

They were people at least. People with loves, desires, goals, friends and family. Azura and all her ilk care nothing for any mortal. I have no doubt that Mephala or some other Daedra intends to further manipulate the Dunmer in some way or another.

[@Varyalover]

+Xander Ellem Perhaps after steady defeat to both the Empire and Dagoth Ur with the weakening of their powers. No, the Tribunal were extremely benevolent in the First and Second Eras, it was the return of Dagoth Ur and the seizing of Keening and Sunder that saw Almalexia and Vivec becoming much less public and interventionist to help their people, and Sotha Sil locking himself away altogether. The removal of their powers saw Almalexia and Sotha Sil become even more insane, as these three, who were once able to defy an Empire and defeat Mehrunes Dagon, were powerless as the Imperials exerted their influence throughout Morrowind, and the leading political figures were all in the pockets of the Empire.

[@IIIBadBearIII]

the detail you guys put into this series is amazing and i love it to pieces, ive shown your lore videos to some of my elderscolls friends and they have all subscribed and watch every video you out up. keep up the great work and never stop posting these videos

[@Wourghk]

Fun facts: Sotha Sil is depicted as having no legs on shrines in TES3, suggesting he was physically handicapped after becoming a god and possibly before. Vivec is female or possibly a hermaphrodite, which is vaguely hinted in the 36 Lessons of Vivec. Note that Vivec's named spear, Muatra, means "milk-taker", and represents both a literal weapon and metaphorical sexual identity in the sermons.

[@MattWeismiller1994]

Wourghk She's an intersex woman or male to female transgender?

[@tombrown407]

Matt Weismiller No, Vivecs a Hermaphrodite, none of those is a hermaphrodite,

[@maxpain2037]

What Vivec is is weird

[@lukeclarkson7389]

The best episode yet. The script was brilliant and I love the artwork you're using.

[@ryderov0]

YAY!.. I needed my lore fix.

[@PEPPERC0OKIE]

These videos are SO great. I am really glad you take your time to do this. Great work!

[@Atomic0907]

2:35 render them immortal Nerevarine: “kills amalexia”

[@firedingo99365]

Amazing as always!! She had the perfect voice!!! I can't wait for more. I love this series!!!! Nobody does the lore quite like you guys do!!!!

[@devtrev85]

Brilliantly stylized animation. Excellent writing and narration. Solid editing.

[@alpha36455]

I look forward to these each week! You do an awesome job ShoddyCast keep up the good work!

[@guywiththeheadphones]

"A dark taint" lol

[@alesin1992]

Are we talking about Molag Bal again?

[@ThatGUY666666]

Love the work you guys have done here. I've tried to research the tribunal on my own but for some reason I had trouble making heads or tails of their story (no idea why) but your videos make it very clear and concise. Keep up the good work ShoddyCast

[@buchanan1314]

Boethiah... compassion? Did I miss something here? I'm not questioning your research, I'm just looking for make sense of that.

[@joshf2218]

The Dunmer/Chimer revered Boethia as their god-ancestor. Boethia is the one who lead the Veloth and the Chimer out of Summerset and into Morrowind by revealing to him the Endeavour. Dunmer view harshness and selfish acts (and the Daedra Lords by association) in a different light than most, because they believe these gods are to be used to cut mortals into better shapes.

[@gobluebuckeye]

I love this series!!! Literally one of the best thing on all of youtube. Great job!!!!!

[@500YenDevin]

This is one side of the coin. Why not present the other as well? Like, that Almalexia, Sotha Sil, and Vivec murdered Nerevar for the heart and Dagoth Ur was actually loyal to him, only corrupted and misguided by the time of the game. Ur was the reason the Tribunal had diminished powers, after all. Anyways, by the end of the game I came to believe that in-game theory over the "history" provided by the Tribunal themselves.

[@TheChrisEire]

These just get better and better great job

[@MNGN101]

Nice thumbnail guys... Nice, nice... NICE!

[@random2829]

Another awesome lore segment. I enjoyed the addition of the new voice-over. More please. :)

[@Person1................68]

Dagoth Ur welcomes you my sweet persistent friend! Dagoth Ur Dagoth Ur Dagoth Ur Dagoth Ur Dagoth Ur Dagoth Ur Dagoth Ur!

[@charlesgrover2797]

Wow amazing and you got the lore correct kudos to you and the team that worked on this.

[@poppedweasel]

I miss this shoddycast. All the storyteller nonsense doesn't compare to the old lore videos.

[@mythixthedragon6903]

Why are they doing Storyteller over Lore Episodes?

[@kylem.7466]

Archaon The Everchosen Dude, you literally never have to watch a let's play a day in your life. Just buy and play the game yourself, and I'm sure plenty of people would find your voice agitating due to your crappy disposition.

[@crimsonglory6194]

Her voice was really good it sounded like the prophacy that azura gave at the start of morrowind

[@basdau6487]

Almalexia (seeing masses of her followers): "I'VE GOT THE POWAAAAAR !" Vivec (looking his new complexion) : "Bitch, I'm uber-fabulous !" Sotha Sil (looking at a Dwemer Sphere) : "I seriously consider implants and pearling..." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indoril Nerevar's ghost : "Lady Azura can I resurrect and shove my precious Trueflame sword right into these moron's asses, with your blessings of course ?" Azura : "You're allowed but not until 3E427 my dear." Indoril Nerevar's ghost: "Gotta be so looooong... allright, wanking time !"

[@reviewthis18]

I've decided I don't like Azura, as the video said, the Tribunal brought a lot of peace to Morrowind

[@verminjerky]

Apologies for coming in so late relative to your comment. But I agree. Sotha Sil is a fairly dispassionate (or at least very closed off) person as he's since been characterized. Obviously, at the time this was put out that was not exactly established but it reframes this conversation, and I think it does so realistically. For him to come out and tell Azura to her face that the Daedra suck at godhood now strikes as a bit more than pride and the pursuit of power - on the contrary, it rings pretty true given that the three of them, with no experience, managed to usher in a significantly improved era in Dunmeri culture, and basically shrugged off her curse with none of the pride you'd see in Altmer. Sotha Sil, in particular, took his lumps with the rest of the Dunmer, which you could argue he earned richly given that he's the one who figured out how to use Kagrenac's tools and mouthed off to Azura. At the same time, I could imagine that conversation as an attempt to reason with her and a spectacular failure, or possibly just an outburst from someone who'd had quite enough Daedric bullshit for a lifetime. Things only devolved when Azura finally got her way and the tools to control the Heart of Lorkhan were stolen. Obviously, everything went to hell at that point. Best laid plans of mice and gods, I guess. Realizing you don't have a contingency until the moment you need it was uncharacteristically short-sighted, but everything was more or less fine up until that point, which vindicates the Tribunal more than anything. The irony is that it was Sotha Sil who wound up both the most benevolent and the most detached. He was the most guilty of what he saw as the cardinal sin of the Daedra - their detachment - in the end. As Almalexia herself once accused him of, he cared way too much, and it was his undoing as his compromises and means-to-justify-ends wounded him more and more deeply. You can see their eventual falls in each of their arcs. Sotha Sil withdrew because he was motivated by results and discouraged by suffering, Almalexia lashed out because she was motivated by ego and discouraged by insignificance, and Vivec deserted because he was motivated by transcendence and discouraged by limitations. The less they resembled the Daedra in power, the more they resembled them in their flaws. And they were very flawed. At times, horribly so and often by their own admission. (Well, Vivec's and Sotha Sil's, anyway.) But it's hard to argue with their results, and their results were... godlike. They were arrogant, but at least they genuinely gave a damn. TL;DR: Screw Azura, she was proven wrong in almost every way, except for pointing out the Tribunal's arrogance, and it was a goddamn tragedy what happened to the Dunmer after the fall of the Tribunal. Like them on a personal level or don't, they are objectively the best thing that ever happened to the Dunmer.

[@gzaaghon9785]

@@verminjerky Thank you for reviving this discussion. Every few months or so I find myself redrawn to the magic of the Morrowind lore and begin exploring. Your personal take on the situation was appreciated. Three blessings, Muthsera.

[@cgraham6]

I just realized how much Sotha Sil's mask looks like that of the horseman Death from Darksiders 2.

[@Pimmooohh]

ughhh this morrowind segment is making me want the skywind mod to come out more and more!

[@Aeghamedic]

It's already out, technically. The whole main quest is completed and ready to be played.

[@Apav1x]

Aeghamedic This is correct. However we removed the download link to Skywind on the forums. We recently had a massive influx of people come on the site, which overloaded the forums. Then we received many questions that can easily be answered by looking on the site, and complaints because things weren't working right. Apparently these people have never heard of pre-alpha. So, until the game is in a playable state, we will not be releasing any versions to the public anymore. We have a lot in the game right now, but we have a lot more to go.

[@alexmilchev5395]

Alex Pitt just put a big pre-alpha text somewhere on the screen during game and enjoy clear forums.

[@veryblackraven]

I con only wonder, how ShoddyCast manages to make such a great Lore series. Both Fallout and The Elder Scrolls Lore are my favorite. And this story is particularly close to me as Morrowind is my favorite part of The Elder Scrolls series.

[@VRichardsn]

I did not have a particularly high image of the Tribunal (specially after reading the books devoted to them, they can´t be more criptic!) but it looks like they are one of those rare cases in which seizing near unlimited power does end up doing a lot of good.

[@captainbronygaming1720]

i love the tribunal i dont know why just love the stories

[@Nattraks]

The Dunmer flourished once the Tribunal came to power. Sure, having much power and immortality is a nice perk, and they had to kill the first Narvarine, but they had good intentions as well. What makes Azura and the other Deadra so perfect? Azura cursed every Chimer and blamed it all on three elves. I personally like the Tribunal, especially Vivec, as he felt bad for what he and the others did, and went back in time to change that history.

[@viveka2994]

The Tribunal gave them prosperity, but they did not earn it, they abandoned Veloth, who is the creator of the Chimer, they abandoned their origins

[@VRichardsn]

@@viveka2994 Interesting words, coming from Vivec.

[@ryanburkhardt2287]

I agree with Reid, she definitely as the same feel as Azura from Morrowind. Its so close it sends shivers down my spine as I remember receiving the Moon-and-Star and Azura's blessing in the Cavern of the Incarnate. Great job, as usual, Josh & Kyle!

[@deuscognito8900]

Imagine if Skyrim, with its great and unique dungeons, gameplay, and mods, had the quality of Story Morrowind had, the depth in the factions as Morrowind had, the faction quests Oblivion had, the roleplay from the previous games, and the unforgiving aspects of Morrowind, just how much better it would be. If Skyrim had all these, it would have been, without a doubt, the greatest RPG ever, and the Witcher 3 wouldn't have even been in the conversation. Unfortunately, we should expect the next Elder Scrolls to be ever more mainstream than Skyrim, to have less roleplay, a worse story, shallow factions, and lore that makes no sense.

[@spacechimp751]

Deus Cognito join the sixth house and subscribe

[@MabiXxazurekitex]

Good Series. Will def be watching all of them at some point when I have time.

[@anhchuong99]

Where is the "Tamriel - the Dawn's beauty..." part?

[@RyanHDR]

4:22 Guild Wars music.. nice.

[@Michael-ol8he]

Thats oblivion music dumb ass

[@RyanHDR]

Same composer. Sounds really similar. You don't have to be a jerk.

[@skeletop]

Vivec is my favorite.

[@jasonberezowski2869]

The Dunmer absolutely have the most interesting and creative lore and back story.

[@kindle9597]

so the sill

[@brandonvistan7444]

Bee Vic.

[@MrSwagtastic87]

Another Spectacular video guys keep up the outstanding work.

[@tetsuoswrath]

Contaminated by a dark taint? Morrowind might want to get that checked out.

[@taylerford5764]

I love these lore video's that ShoddyCast has made their wonderful!!!

[@biguwu2599]

She's a pretty good Voice actor

[@ryanapperson8932]

WHAT? Morrowind didn't fall to Prince Juliek...they simply gave parts of the eastern coast to the empire. A few days later, Juliek was assassinated. Read the 2920 series in the game.

[@pedanticvampire8121]

ALL IS DARKNESS IN MY ROOM

[@zabac94]

Dude you guys are awesome! I really like the way you speak of this.... I have played only skyrim... But so curious about it's history... And now I have a chance to hear it from you guys! Thanks again and a big lick from Serbia to you guys! P. S. I'm going to show this to my friend he is also a fan of the elder scrolls :D

[@ColeWolfsson]

you think the dark elf curse is bad? look at malacaths curse on orcs lul

[@jaggerzite7208]

Great work guys keep it up watch u guys every week

[@robertthompsonede]

I've just got to say this, I love the Tribunal. I love everything that they did for Morrowind or Resdayn. I love every single structure and monument and city that was made because of them. I love that such a rich and beautiful culture was forged because of their rise to power. I love that Morrowind as we know it from TES 3, is such a beautiful and rich place. There is so much Lore and Canon from the land that I am astonished on a daily basis. Sure they may have killed Indoril Nerevar, and betrayed Azura, but they everything abou tthe land is so beautiful. The Tribunal didn't go mad, or start killing people, they made beautiful and wondrous things and places. The land itself is steeped in mystery and intrigue, something to be explored on a higher level. And the project Tamriel rebuilt just adds to all of that. What I'm trying to say is, the Tribunal made Morrowind a beautiful place full of everything a nerd like me loves, and I love them for that. Without them, the Morrowind region would just be another dull Altmer place, but with them, it is such a beautiful and lustrous and rich land. Thank you Tribunal, thank you for making Morrowind a beautiful place for me to lose myself in!

[@AdamMichalMarkowski]

Rich culture? You mean the culture based on giant bugs and mushrooms?

[@archaeologistify]

Adam Markowski You'd prefer culture of "Do you get to the Cloud district very often? Oh what am I saying, ofcourse you don't." Morrowind has original and perfect culture. I am more worried about slavory...

[@BlueDefender006]

I like Morrowind but there were many problems with that land, like all places in Tamriel. I love how as the Nerevarine you could try to fix those problems. Slavery was terrible under all 5 houses including house Hlaalu, which had members of the house setting up organizations to free the slaves but also had one of the worst and largest plantations and terrible slave treatment. There was mass corruption in both Imperial and traditional Dunmer organizations alike. After all the work that I as the Nerevarine did to try to fix these problems I am saddened that I would leave this land for Akavir and leave it to its demise. All that effort put in to making this land a better place, slavery abolished and then, wham Red Mountain erupting and Argonians killing people. I do wish that I could have done something to help against this and the Oblivion crisis in Morrowind. For the Great House Telvanni and the visions of Master Ayron!

[@garytaylor3880]

JohnWPATTERSON Don't worry my child. House Redoran rose to answer the call in Morrowind's hour of need and pushed back the slimy Argonian infidels and saved all of Dunmer society.

[@Casually_Unskilled]

Er, they kinda did go mad. Well, not Vivec. Sotha Sil became obsessed with his Clockwork City, to the point of it being near absurd. And Almalexia? She grew so afraid and paranoid, and plotted the death of Sotha Sil, he compatriot. She also plotted to defeat the Nerevarine, as well.

[@emielwarnier6324]

"Sotha Sil in his foolish pride went as far as mock Azura and question her authority." It wasn't in any way foolish for Seht to do that, seeing that all three of them were Gods, Azura wouldn't have been able to destroy them. With just Seht and Ayem being able to defeat Dagon (mind you, Sotha Sil is the most powerful of the three), they would easily be able to also defeat Azura with all three of them united. Seht was the most powerful and wise individual to have ever lived on Nirn, he created the city of Sotha Sil that would become one of the structures that would hold Nirn still together.

[@emielwarnier6324]

Yes through manipulation, not through actual strength. Besides Seht was never killed by the Nerevarine, neither do I believe that Ayem was ever able to kill Seht.

[@thedarkness6256]

+Emiel Warnier At the time of the appearance of the Nerevarine Sotha Sil was on life support in his city. He would've been easy to kill.

[@EyeOfEld]

+Emiel Warnier Wrong. Vivec was the most powerful member of the Tribunal and even achieved CHIM. However, he wasn't the most powerful being ever. "Talos. The HoonDing. Trinimac. Vivec. Leki. Reman. Auri-El. Wulfharth. Morihaus. Pelinal. That's my list, and pretty much in that order. Though Vivec did kill Tiber Septim once...but I mentioned Talos, not the Emperor." -Michael Kirkbride

[@AngelCakes1997]

+petargrad If they wanted they could summon her, bind her to Nirn, and just kill her over and over again until she goes mad. Vivec did it.

[@AngelCakes1997]

+EyeOfEld Pelinal is hilariously powerful. I love reading his lore just to remind myself that he was BATSHIT INSANE XD

[@verylazylewis]

Amazing. Thank you Shoddycast

[@Geraduss]

You really should start using the assets from Skywind for any morrowind refrences, they alredy recreated the entire Vvanderfell, with Dagoth Ur and all the rest, could simply use that instead of the annoying overly imperial looking Raven Rock assets, jut saying.. those Raven Rock immages kinda ..eeh, I can't say ruined it, but it just feelt wrong.

[@92Roar]

Man I hated that ending......you know......when it stopped. Great episode, looking forward to more!

[@chubbubdreamer6904]

I didn't know much about Elder Scrolls lore, but I'm really liking the Dark Elves more now.

[@powerthruster1505]

I really like your channel kyle and josh it seems like you giys really like doing this. Also the information is very easy to understand from you guys. You guys are just great youtubers

[@DaBear227]

I know I said I hate the tribunal and i do. i particularly don't like vivec because he's so petty and cocky ie. the moon he threatened his people with. That said though, i will admit that they were the best thing to happen to morrowind.

[@mylesguda2505]

+EV1LxDrP0rKCH0p yea they were. I kind of wish they didn't have to steal the divine power of the Heart, why couldn't Azura just be like "Ok guys, if you want to be gods, then you'll have to promise me that you'll lead my people with honor and not try and twist history and lie" if they really did kill Nerevar then she should have made them repent or something and then make then swear an oath to be god's as retribution, telling them that they won't have find it easy to be a god. I guess Vivec is kind of cocky, if you go and look him up on the morrowind wiki, he has quote saying "defy me and you will know what it is to stand against a god", but almalexia is perhaps the most conceded of the bunch, all throughout her dialog in Tribunal and ESO you can literally pick apart her high and mighty lines when speaking to her.

[@JesterMasque]

Captivating as usual! Please continue doing the good work!

[@akatosh2795]

There are many accounts of the Akavir, but what is that they look like? Were they like those of Tamriel (humanoid)? Then if so, were they more liek Elf or Man, neither?

[@brandonrocks10001]

Umbra Vindasel Akavir would be awesome for a TES game but I think they'll be taking care of the Thalmor and make a game about the Argonian occupation of Morrowind first

[@akatosh2795]

***** Probably in all honesty! I really want them to install a war engine. I really want to have some epic battles between the Empire and Thalmore. Kind of what Bungie did in Halo Reach, but bigger! I just want to command armies - it would enhance the RPG style a bit - being a glorious commander or a back stabbing one that sells out his own men. Think of the possibilities!

[@akatosh2795]

lol

[@joanedwards6477]

They were all beastfolk like the Khajiit and the Argonians. Look it up on TES Wiki. Most of the Akaviri forces who invaded were like snake people. (correct me if i'm wrong)

[@archaeologistify]

Umbra Vindasel They dont take over the Empire. Versidue Shaie just stands as Tamriel's emperor for few hunderds of years before assasinated by the Dark Brotherhood.

[@stefanpavlovic4534]

6:19 best version of of Almalexia ever!!! Who is watching this in 2019?

[@VEGITAS4]

CLICK THE LIKE BUTTON FOR MOAR LOAR!!!! Thank you Shoddycast! xoxo

[@Tracker947]

My mind can't process Vegeta ever typing "xoxo"... *mind explodes*

[@LEONx6x6x6x]

Ah those blue glowing giant mushrooms inder Red Mountain... So beautiful... But i didnt knew that thing about Mahrunes Dagon and the fight in Mournhold. Interesting little thing.

[@bdasaw]

I stole the power of God and you gave me a sunburn...Cruel punishment indeed ;)

[@pieniadz9156]

Don't forget about the red eyes!

[@Nighn_9]

I watch the lore series just like an actual show. PLEASE keep making them!

[@snookiewozo]

This series... this bloody series... Sometimes I wonder what it takes to be so blind as not to notice the obvious mistakes that you make over and over again.

[@AkujiMalice]

could you expand upon this? I have a friend I'm guiding through the lore and I'd like to, if nothing else, both personally understand and be able to show them the nature of the controversy.

[@snookiewozo]

AkujiMalice There's a moment in Morrowind's main story upon which you're invited to visit Vivec himself in his temple, where he explains everything you need to know and provides you with various scrolls. Vivec is wise enough to provide you with different versions of the same event, even if they speak against him. This is where I'd start, if I were you.

[@AkujiMalice]

Vultar666 Ahhh you're referring to THAT issue. Thanks. That'll do nicely. I've played Morrowind. I'm familiar with that spot. Just good to see the hotspots. As a rule you could say that the nerevarine wore an exquisite robe to red mountain and find 6 people who would threaten your life because they can prove with evidence it was a common robe. Good to see the direction on this one.

[@BigBeard]

I'm enjoying the series very much I found you guys threw MMOxReviews page. The hired Voice actors in this series are amazing along with yourself of course. Keep it up when you can guys and gals.

[@misterMed]

Oh no! not the MxR thumbnails -__-

[@DontTripChocolateDrip]

The false "gods" of the Tribunal murdered Sweet Moon and Star, Indoril Nerevar, the Sharmat! All for their own greed!

[@mr.ornstein3384]

yeah "comfort" ehuehuehue ( -~-)

[@gugelakaunt9523]

Thnks for the video man. I know its very hard to compile all the story in TES. Because Ive tried it once and let just say I gave up quite easily because of the amount of work it required. So, thnks once again.

[@deeliriyum]

Love it! But cringed at every pronunciation of Vivec's and Ur's name.

[@Kryojenix]

...and Chimer.

[@failedsensez]

Same, I'm not usually a stickler for pronunciation...but this kinda hurt.

[@deeliriyum]

It should be pronounced more like Veevec but with shorter "ee" and Oor. Chimer should be "Chaimer" right?

[@ealing456]

deeliriyum Chimer may well be pronounced chaimer, like in the video, or Kai-mer, with a pronunciation derived from our real world Greek mythology - Chimera, effectively: 'a being constructed of multiple animal parts'.

[@Dovahbormah]

***** thanks for pointing that out. I never thought vivec was that hard to pronounce. Hlaalu on the other hand... I don't even know where to start

[@ericcox2161]

Great Job as always guys.

[@im_clo_and_thats_ok]

Why do the Dunmer continue to worship Azura even after she cursed them?

[@im_clo_and_thats_ok]

+petargrad I understand them but it doesn't entirely make sense. Maybe if she's acting sort of like a parent, punishing her children but still loving them. But why would she curse all of them for the actions of three people?

[@im_clo_and_thats_ok]

So why would they worship her after they were cursed? Do they realize the mistake they made?

[@im_clo_and_thats_ok]

petargrad thanks for clearing that up

[@zzxp1]

+Cody V well... orcs worship malacath and he treats them like bitches.

[@im_clo_and_thats_ok]

He is their creator, just like Azura...

[@AslanBlood]

Splendid voice acting of "Azura", like The Elder Scrolls is in her blood.

[@artemisarrow179]

I really love Morrowind and if you think about the story correlates a lot with the Bible. Nerevarine = Nazarene Morrowind/Vvardenfell = Judea/Palestine Tribunal could be pseudo for the Trinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit The Tribunal Temple = The Jewish Pharisees, both were theopolitical bodies. The Pharisees taught the law of Moses while the Tribunal taught Almsivi and the like The Nerevarine Prophecy = Jesus' Prophecy. In Genesis God told the serpent that he would send a messiah to mend what temptation had wrought on the world Jesus and the Nerevarine would both be rejected by their respective theopolitical powers as blasphemers The Chimeri exodus to Morrowind = The Jewish exodus from slavery in Egypt to the Promised Land Indoril Nerevar could be somewhat akin to King David, a great warrior king Ashlander Tribes could be the 12 tribes of Isreal (Samaritans/Urshilaku) The Imperial Legions are easily the Roman Legions that occupied Judea during the time of the Christ prophecy Vivec could be pseudo of Nicodemus, a pharisee that liked Jesus and lowkey thought he was the prophecised messiah Dagoth Ur could be the devil while Azura takes on the role God What do you guys think?

[@AngelCakes1997]

Except that Each member of the Tribunal were physically present for their worship. Almalexia actively talked to her followers and Sotha Sil even researched magic with every powerful magic guild in the world. Vivec also achieved Chim, which allowed him to do whatever he wanted and gave him godhood beyond godhood. Also what about Dagoth Ur and the Heart of Lorkhan?

[@ninjaxxc4034]

+Ethan Stansmore Dagoth Ur would be satan. Using dreams/visions to manipulate people into losing their minds, wanting to drive out the forginers ( humans) from Morrowind. (Earth) Also Sharmat sounds similliar.

[@jabba762]

shoddy you really need to keep on doing this. i am in love with your channel

[@Beanmachine91]

azuras like "how many times do i have to tell you people?!"

[@nfnlord1]

Very nice video ShoddyCast I really love the elder scroll lore videos keep up the good work:)

[@playlistnation2005]

AAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW YYYYEEEAHHHHH saw my comment :)

[@maiku08]

Fantastic 2nd part. We want more!! A proposal for Bethesda : the books that we discover through our adventures should be given in this form. Animated! Imagine this project!

[@lordvivec7992]

Why did I try to kill Nerevar? Because he threatened the faith of my followers, and I needed their faith to hold back the darkness.

[@spacechimp751]

Lord Vivec you shoud consider joining the sixth house and subscribe

[@thequeenofgay9022]

I speak for another but have either of you tried cheese parties they are womderful

[@aviavlakeotes7671]

Funny I did not realize that was a voice actor at all just thought is was some ElderScrolls hidden word play. I think she is great and would be a great addition to the shoddycast she gets this fans approval ! And another great video guys can't wait to see Fallouts next week.

[@LosEagle]

"Must use the clickbaity thumbnail thats the only way my shitty wiki reading vids are going to get views!"

[@unclesesi5559]

God damn right!

[@borip765]

I have a feeling that the two of us are about to become very close!

[@Natef89]

Lmao no kidding.

[@NanaMamaS]

Not just any taint, "The Dark Taint". Sounds like an excellent name for a guild. Lol. Love the lore. Keep it coming.

[@cooladam2167]

Dagoth was right

[@OpossumPartyy]

Your mother wasn't when she didn't abort you

[@gregw2032]

As creator and producer of Morrowind I appreciate the interest and support from the large fan base of gamers worldwide thanks, Greg

[@GeorgeofGondor2]

Oh for gods sake whats with these so innacurate videos. The Chimmer never defeated the dwemer , certainly not in any major battle.The Dwemer dissapeared before the battle of red Mountain. Make some better research because your informing the fans wrong. On the contrary they had no chance against the Dwemer. Here is the proof : elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Chimarvamidium The lightly armored Chimmer no matter how good they were with blade and spell they just had no chance against heavy armor and robots.

[@t.trainwiz8861]

Plus the whole idea that Sotha Sil is this weird scheming crazy seducer, rather than just a regretful nerd.

[@Kaffee3rsatz]

soo... he made ONE mistake... butthurt much?

[@Drake-E]

you can tell there pretty accurate if people like you are calling things out like that. shoddy is like pro at this point.

[@GeorgeofGondor2]

I didnt get your point but just to make clear , im not a hater or smth. Im not against shoddy on the contrary im a fan and i have subscribed also and thats why i care about these videos being accurate. I am not boosting my ego or smth but i love the lore of Elder scrolls and i want these videos to be as accurate as possible

[@Drake-E]

if there are people out there being all "accurate" about the videos, you can see people are really into the game. is my point.

[@sith014]

Only after watching this video do I realize that it was Azura's voice speaking at the intro to the game, Morrowind.

[@timattwood9828]

Ugggh, no thanks, I want facts please.

[@Whocareslol]

Coming from an elder scrolls fan of well over 10 years, this is as far as I can tell all true. They just simply chose to present it in a more appealing format that keeps someones interest more then just rattling off random facts. But it sounds like they did their research before doing this, maybe you do too before trying to watch it.

[@timattwood9828]

Clayton Lilly This is not true, it is extremely biased and quite frankly a bit of a shit show.

[@BlueDefender006]

History is whoever tells it. There are diverging accounts of historical events including in Elder Scrolls history. It is left up to the player on what they believe happened in the past. We don't know who killed Lord Nerevar or exactly what happened when Mehrunes Dagon destroyed Mournhold. Just because you read it in a book does not mean that it was true. There are many instances of propaganda in this series so you will need to be careful in where you get your information. Ultimately it is up to you to decide what happened. The only facts you get is what you did when playing the games.

[@timattwood9828]

JohnWPATTERSON We need to immortalise this comment.

[@Whocareslol]

And you need to learn how to not jump to conclusions.

[@IC-23]

Small inaccuracy near the end, Dagoth wasn't his name, but his house title similar to how Telvanni is a house, but a group of Dunmer who are part of the Telvanni Clan also have the name as they are part of the oroginal clan that later became the house. Also the tribunal was well aware why their power was decreasing as they madr yearly pilgrimages to the Heart if Lorkhan to renew their divine power, but one day they were Ambushed by Dagoth Ur, and had to flee before they could reach the Heart Chamber, and renew their power.