The Elves You Didn't See in Skyrim - The Unexplained Mystery of the Maormer - Elder Scrolls Lore

[@Dham_Pyra]

If you guys are curious, there is a side lands mod project that has associations with Beyond Skyrim called Nirn Uncharted. Each team is making a place outside of Tamriel (not akavir) like Pyandonea, Esroniet, Systres and Pankor, and Alinor (alinor is currently on Hiatus). While the projects are still on their 2D and early 3D phases, I still want to send the word out.

[@Argornash]

Some of which are a part of Creation Mod Con!

[@HolyClownFuckarus]

Hell yea ❤

[@hollyhartwick3832]

Sounds like fun. I do wish they could release it for PS4/5, but I know asset restrictions make that likely unfeasible. Still, might get it for the Steam version when it releases.

[@larryblake842]

They are saying that the huge mod skyblivion will be down by 2025 at the latest and that mod is massive.

[@Dovah_Slayer]

awesome i do wish Bethesda actually decided to answer something about these mysterious lands instead of giving the excuse of "no answer would be satisfying"

[@tommyawsm7132]

Finally! A full genuine video on the Maormer! I’m playing a Maormer in a Skyrim DND right now and I’ve wanted a good Fudgemuppet video on them for so long! Thank you guys!

[@quantumfrost9467]

You would probably enjoy elder kings 1 and Elder kings 2

[@reidzalewski4563]

@@quantumfrost9467 Shame they are barely present in EK2, but still happy to see them in the game.

[@blackjacklover99]

I think it would be really cool if the empire formed an alliance with the Maomer for the second great war.

[@quantumfrost9467]

That would be mad cool

[@MrMogwaiMan]

Bruh they'd betray us in a heartbeat, they're the elder scrolls version of as close to the drukhari from Warhammer as you can get

[@kekero540]

@@MrMogwaiManpretty sure that was ayleids with their flayed skin tapestries and gardens strewn with intestines like they were party ribbons.

[@blackjacklover99]

@@MrMogwaiMan I don’t know they seem to just be interested in talking the Summerset Isle/Alinor. Also what @kekero540 said.

[@badluck5647]

A Dominion-Pyandonea alliance would be the Elder Scrolls version of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. The ideologically opposed autocrats would work together when convenient but stab the other in the back as soon as an opportunity arrives.

[@tazo8658]

No doubt my favorite unplayable race. Being firstly exposed to the Sea Elves in ESO and seeing them cast Weather Magic was so damn cool. I wasn't expecting to be taken aback after learning more about yet another elusive group of people, i thought i heard it all when learning about the Dwemer and the Akavir. This series' universe is absurd

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

Are you familiar with The Sload?

[@tazo8658]

@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger 6 months to respond, but not enough. I know they can become soap but that's it!

[@tpbenze5032]

@@tazo8658if you haven’t watched more since then they also caused the most devastating disease in Tamriel history called the Thrassian plague. I think it wiped out like half the population of Tamriel if I remember. And yeah they make soap out of their babies for necromancy

[@spider-spectre]

IMO, Elnofey are shapeless animal spirits that were formed to Elves. Hence why Khajiit and Bosmer came from the same spirit type of south-west Tamriel and why someone might think Khajiit came from "elf stock" but, technically the khajiit were created before bosmer were even pointy eared people because they became elves AFTER Yffre was gifted the ability to give them a permanent shape from Nirni as she was convinced that Azura tricked her by making the Khajiit from her "children".

[@fishbone5430]

I really hope the Maomer are playable in the next Elder scrolls. I wanna be a pretty sea elf so bad

[@danbauer3669]

You'll always be a pretty sea elf to me.

[@donut3733]

I didn't realize the sea elves' existence until I played the Sirenroot mod, I hope we can see them in the next game.

[@badluck5647]

ESO 👀

[@annamaria9073]

​@badluck5647 not everybody is into mmorpgs 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@badluck5647]

@@annamaria9073 I'm not a fan of the genre either, but it is pretty easy to ignore the MMO elements if you just want to do story missions.

[@annamaria9073]

@@badluck5647really not my experience but nice that it works for you. Nvm that people are very likely not buying an mmo to begin with when they don't like mmo.

[@fireblast133]

Course we don’t get much lore as the only one we talk to has no real knowledge of her heritage, and the other is just a ghost

[@FalloutMidwest]

King orgnum sounds like a sea dragon and uses unique shouts to forge his magics it would explain why he is immortal and has an affinity for strange unique magics

[@TheZeroNeonix]

I find the Maomer to be super interesting, and I hope we get to see some of them in TESVI. I doubt they will be a playable race, given how isolationist they are and how little info about them is concrete, but I'd be happy enough to see them as NPCs. To encounter them riding their sea serpents would be pretty cool. Hopefully, they wouldn't all be hostile, but some would be willing to converse.

[@OmniZero1178]

Would love to see them in ES6 this is the first I've heard of them and honestly they may have just made a spot as one of my favorites. Thanks for the info scott

[@Henrex2000]

It's not unlikely for them to appear in ES6 since they're in Online

[@BansheeKing22]

Independent Skyrim with the voice allies with sword singer Hammerfell and the sea elves with crazy wild hunt, cannibalistic wood elves to take on the thalmor and save the world.. I can see it.

[@BansheeKing22]

@Leeloo_the_fox late response but the voice and sword singing are two very powerful non aetherius magics. Imagine if the dwemer were still around or were to return with their tonal architecture. The thalmor would be wiped from existence.

[@JXEditor]

Looking at the timestamps, you mention a “weird theory” and later “Satakal.” Are you suggesting the Maomer were the left handed elves and they’re “slightly under water” nation is actually the sunken nation?

[@LilFeralGangrel]

i wonder if they're related? perhaps descendants of the lefthanded elves that fled from Yokudan might and genocide. Not too dissimilar from the Falmer and the Nords, yes?

[@spider-spectre]

tbh, I've thought this from the "sea elves" inception. It fits perfectly, I mean what other Mer fits perfectly with the islander, coastal, pirate theme, being the elf opposition to the redguard, than the Maomer that were added in ESO? The alternative is that the left handed are all dead and these are completely different but, we know bethesda/elder scrolls writing is full of combacks and returns. They even already have an explanation for not being in other games but, possibly existing in present times. The way Maomer are written seems to have full intentions that they are a lost group of Elves from the sea, which fits into Yokudan and also gives an Atlantis feel, which I can see Beth doing for the elves, an advanced ancient society in the water.

[@LilFeralGangrel]

though also i wonder if they have any relation to the Dreugh, The Altmer of the Sea.

[@chriswilder9719]

​@@spider-spectreit doesn't disprove your theory but the sea elves are mentioned as part of the wolf queen's plans. If I remember correctly she made a deal with them that they would invade but the psidic order stopped it via giant storm. It was in the books about the wolf queen in Skyrim

[@izb1678]

🤔

[@VLarraechea]

Heck yes, FudgeMuppet is back again. Can’t wait to hear more of the Maormer. Also gotta love Beyond Skyrim’s work. Masterpiece level indeed!

[@iesika7387]

Regarding the idea that looking the most like the ancestor is tied to being "closer" to the ancestor, may I just point out that a chihuahua or teacup poodle is exactly the same amount of related to wolves as any german shepherd or husky.

[@consensus810]

We need a sea elf race in the next game, and we need a sea elf polymorph/skin in elder scrolls online! So much potential!

[@liviaabreu2235]

There is a skin in ESO already or kind of. It's the "Maormer Fish" skin, you can check how it looks in UESP. I have in my main char to take the vampire appearance,

[@consensus810]

@@liviaabreu2235 Yes I've seen it before :) Unfortunately it doesn't really give the effect that a lot of people want. It's pretty cool, but it doesn't really make you look like the other sea elves in the game. Maybe they'll add another that changes your ears and skin tone? Fingers crossed!

[@lennoxshepherd3905]

yeah we need more diversity of khajit options as race options before we add in such a fringe obscure race like the sea elves with no precedent in the previous games for us playing as them, unlike the khajit, hell I'd say another proper beast race should be added before we get another man or mer option.

[@consensus810]

@@lennoxshepherd3905 At least the khajiit are already a playable race though. Sure, there are versions they could add and that would be cool, but the sea elves aren't playable at all, period. They have had a lot of lore built on them over the course of ESO. I still think they would be a cool addition!

[@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle]

I hope we get minotaurs too, they were really treated badly by the Empire and I believe they are own a lot of reparations for being forced into devolving beasts

[@fumarc4501]

I often wondered if the reason the Empire became an enemy of the Maormer was because they conquered the Summer Set Isles, or was it because the Maormer attacked anyone indiscriminately?

[@fictionschmiction4478]

Currently doing a campaign of ES with my friends, I'm playing as a Maormer that picked them up after they washed ashore on Pyandonea. Gotta be my favorite mer.

[@Darkside-tr3sx]

I seriously didn’t know that Beyond Skyrim: Cyrodiil would include Maormer!

[@Argornash]

Not that much, but they will have a very small presence.

[@more17]

I'd love to see the Maormer as a playable race in TESVI. I feel like in general they and the Reachmen (if Bethesda really decided to emphasize them as their own people) would be the easiest for playable race expansions. Also, is that thumbnail a modded Skyrim armor? It looks awesome!

[@FyrsaVT]

ESO has done a great job of emphasising Reach culture, and that the Forsworn of Skyrim are merely the sole survivors of Ulfric's crusade. Seeing how the surviving clans west of the mountains interact with Bretons is an interesting prospect. Perhaps I'm setting my hopes too high, but new playable races would definitely draw people back into the series. Maormer seem less likely, though they are known to scout the more southern parts of the region. Them taking advantage of the Thalmor-Alik'r conflict to gain a foothold on Tamriel could be a fun concept. My personal favourite, though unlikely a playable race, would be to see a more developed Falmer culture, expanding westward from the Forgotten Vale.

[@Unidentified_Entity6]

it wouldn't make sense to play as a Sea Elf, and Reachmen are basically Bretons with a different culture it would be cool if you could say you are a reachman in dialogue or something

[@christophermills7693]

@@FyrsaVT Speaking of the Falmer, do you think Ysgramor butchered the right race of mer?? Even the college of Winterhold admitted that nobody really knew what happened on the Night of Tears. You do the college quest and go to that one dwemer place that has the magic item detector that shows where the eye is and the staff is. The Dwemer and the Atmorans had the most to gain with the Falmer gone and look at what happened to the snow elves at the hands of the Dwemer. I think either the Dwemer sacked Sarthaal or they tricked the Falmer and were still to blame. Can you tell the difference between the Maomer, an Altmer, A Chimer or a Dwemer at night under torchlight if they were all wearing cloaks?- Esareth Leafblade Altmer conspiracy theorist, Hater of Talos, the thalmor and the empire all equally . Do you know about Talos? He used the Numeridion to butcher Mer into submission to form your worthless Empire - Faeril of Valenwood No man should Rule over the Mer and no Mer should rule over man. - Greth'al'en exiled Thalmor Also down with the thalmor, they killed my father, those dirty rats.- also Greth'al'en Exiled Thalmor This one thinks you all need to calm down - Safrot of Elsewyr Cheese for everyone - Lord Sheogorath

[@soldierinsane2689]

@@FyrsaVTthe snow elves are such a cool people, maybe if a game were to take place when they were in power, then we could play as them. At least we have mods but still…

[@keeganwilson9062]

​@@Unidentified_Entity6lorewise reachmen are definitely not "basically bretons" in the lore they have a distinct look, very different from the bretons and their culture is completely different that's like saying a dark else is basically high elf there are distinct differences between them.

[@Janoha17]

What mod did you use for the non-ESO Maormer? Lost Races of Aetherius adds playable Maormer, along with Falmer, Dwemer, Ayleid, and Tsaesci. And the Maormer would be exactly the sort of wild card to undermine the Thalmor's attempts to conquer Tamriel. The Empire may be crumbling, but only a fool fights a war on two fronts. There could even be a plot/quest about finding and returning King Orgnum's Coffer so he can take on the Thalmor with his fleet directly (and the Thalmor are at a disadvantage due to not having either the Psijics or the Empire to help against the Maormer fleets)

[@gabriellaburke6915]

I'm pretty sure it's from Beyond Skyrim: Cyrodil, which is a work in progress and, from my understanding, not widely available to people not working on the project. FudgeMuppet, if I understand correctly, is given snippets of footage to use in their videos by the developers of Beyond Skyrim

[@notatruck2640]

There's that one and then another maormer race mod it could be either

[@SCP_Wandsman13_13]

Makes sense. The Maormer almost destroyed the first dominion.

[@OuterRimPride]

An actual thorough exploration of Maormer, thank you so much. I’ve always felt like I knew so much about them that couldn’t be found on the wiki, or in lore videos.

[@twinphalanx4465]

Hed paint with all the colors of the rainbow

[@Vahmung]

Very interesting take on Satakal. I can see it being a lost piece of mythology. If the Maomer helped the Yokudans and learn of the sea to leave the island and their destruction. When a race makes exodus, a lot of their history and culture get left behind. Hammerfell is one of the most political provinces of Tamriel. I can easily seeing how some of the upper echelon would want to rewrite the narrative of a Mer helping them.

[@crandleberrysadie]

Always excited to see new content from Scott. TY 🙏

[@MaDBoaB2o2o]

I like the idea that he appears younger at certain points in time because he shed his skin like a snake.

[@Sasuke81a]

I admire the Sea Elves of Nirn. I hope there'll be more Lore and Content about them be released in the future.

[@treygreypaws3689]

Lore!!! Also I love how I got a Starfield ad before this video started lol

[@ZeroMayhemZX]

Great video. I quite like the Sea Elves/Maomer, having interacted with many in ESO, and this was insightful and informative.

[@saviorseraph318]

We need more sea elf mods 🔥🔥🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@connornicholas8628]

These art designs are beautiful.

[@povilzem]

I remember reading a non- canon book called "Raid on Pyandonea" in the SHOTN mod for Morrowind. It has an interesting interpretation: King Orgnum is, in fact, a title - he gets killed near the beginning, and a new one rises up and takes the mantle. Orgnum also appears to be able to transform into a serpent and use his Sight the same way the Nords use Voice to manipulate the rules of nature.

[@panzerviiimaus1581]

Everything changed when the Water Nation attacked

[@neohyberboreantechnosteppe3185]

Rather than Satakal being based on Orgnum, instead could Orgnum be mantling Satakal? (Like how Talos mantled Lorkhan)

[@jeffdroog]

Or how I mantled your mom?

[@AlbelNox]

KZbin's at it again the bell is on all and yet no notifications of new videos

[@RealBradMiller]

That's how it is always going to be... They don't care to change it. The only notification I get is when I see an upcoming premiere on my homepage, and that means they have to set a premiere, and I have to be scrolling YT.

[@King-ji4fv]

0:31 That glass armor on the high elf looks sick! I've never seen it before, is it from beyond skyrim?

[@Argornash]

No that's from a different mod. It does look amazing though

[@highwaystar4518]

black mesa logo at 26:30? neat

[@gabriellaburke6915]

What I'm wondering is how well serpent magic works on other reptiles. It would be quite a shock if the Maormer were to suddenly attempt to control Argonians or the like. The only issues I can think of that would make this more difficult would be the fact that Argonians are likely more intelligent than the sea serpents the Maormer regularly manipulate, thus making them more difficult to control, and the fact that the Hist already has a strong influence over the minds of the Argonians. Regardless, this does not seem like it would be the most absurd thing for the Maormer to attempt, given their great understanding of magic

[@d-pod_L]

I was thinking if their snake magic works on tsaesci

[@platinumgame3048]

Interesting point, but I think what would make it harder for the pandoneans is the argonians' link with the hist tree which acts sort of like a hivemind. I wonder which one is stronger, the hist influence or Orgnum's magic

[@flavoredair9479]

Amazing video as always guys!

[@numnut154]

Maormer easily my fav Mer, I hope they become a bigger part of the Elder Scrolls in the future.

[@CeleriaRosencroix]

The theory of Satakal being a corrupt memory of Orgnum from the period before the Ehlnofey War is a very fascinating one which I had not heard before, by the way. Very interesting speculation, even if the lack of additional texts to help build up a proper foundation for it makes it a bit tenuous.

[@symbiotesoda1148]

The Maormer really should be playable in 6. The last time we got new playable races was the orcs and Imperials, and that was all the way back in TES 3. Making them a playable race would simply offer so many new character opportunities, as well as developers a chance to explore how NPCs would react to a PC that is wholly alien.

[@darealblazegamer2416]

Build Idea: The Aquatic Arcanist, which serves as a self build and a champion of hermaeus mora, leaning into both the nautical aspects of hermaeus mora and using the new spell mods to create a skyrim version of eso's arcanist class

[@natabugg1e]

yess i hope we see more of the maormer and other non-tamriel races in the future!!!

[@smuggrog9821]

Interestingly enough, the cult of Diagna originated in Yokuda during the "Twenty Seven Snake Folk Slaughter". Diagna was also said to be the deity that was instrumental in the Redguards war and eventual victory over the Left Handed Elves and looking at how close Yokuda was to Pyandonea I doubt those "snake folk" were Tsaesci which leaves the Moamer being the race that fits that description of "snake folk" the most. So I do think its is likely that the Left Handed Elves were a offshoot of Moamer.

[@DelinquentChibi]

The Left Handed Elves supposed came from the previous Kalpa with the Yokudans, so perhaps they were a previous incarnation?

[@DickyReeves]

18:37 This is probably one of my favorite pieces of furniture that I achieved from scrying for a good long while due to its size and history connected to it.

[@dl4121]

Thank you for your content, it's my favourite media on KZbin. Sky above, voice within.

[@bacd-nn2lg]

I wonder how Pelinal Whitestrake would do with Maormer?

[@mnk9073]

Add them to his body count.

[@HappyBuffalo347]

6310

[@Flesh_Wizard]

If it ends in "mer", you know what Pelinal will do

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

The idea of a Maomer invasion as the threat we face in ES6 instead of some godly threat this time around really tickles me. King Orgnum is a mysterious, god-like character already so we wouldn't really need a greater threat.

[@jetpilledmyron2056]

Hell yeah

[@aceundead4750]

Godly threats can wait til DLC, i only started playing shortly before the second or third Skyrim DLC was released, but reading about the Maormer in the few books i remember seeing anything about sea elves mentioned and yet seeing nothing of them otherwise really makes me want some type of interaction with them.

[@idipped2521]

To be honest I don’t see it, maybe as the biggest DLC for TES VI it would make sense but the Thalmor situation needs to be resolved. What I think they’re going to do in TES VI is let you chose any side you want, even an independent high rock/hammerfell but the canon ending will be that the Thalmor and Empire both lose at the same time. The reason being is that this current empire is essentially destined to fail and the Thalmor are not built to last either since they look down on their Khajiiti and Bosmeri allies. What I think is going to happen is that the canon ending will be basically that of the battle of glenumbria moors. The dominion is utterly crushed in the final battle but the empire loses so many troops that it was basically a Pyrrhic victory and their military utterly collapses. This would not immediately reflect in the game, and the main general of the empire similar to a general tullius type of character would say “we lost countless men but the dominion threat is null, we have some rebuilding to do” that never gets done and the canon result is an independent hammerfell, balfiera, high rock, and orsinium with Bretons, Direnni, Orcs, Reachmen, etc all sharing power until a new empire arises. In TES VI we should get a spinoff made by Bethesda themselves in the early eras to hold us over until TES VII which will be Todd’s last game

[@jetpilledmyron2056]

@@idipped2521 we all know that, at the end of the day, the Dunmeri Great Houses will win

[@idipped2521]

@@jetpilledmyron2056 they always do

[@spiritB0mber]

Well we do see the maromer quite a bit in eso and I bet we get an expansion based on them at some point

[@badluck5647]

Hopefully. It would be nice to see what their society is like beyond raiders. I also have a feeling that Captain Siravaen is a preview of a Pyandonea chapter.

[@kachigar8948]

Instantlike and comment, will definitely watch later

[@nicklagoni7306]

Man now I gotta start a Maomer playthrough

[@allihavearepasta-basedthou2890]

3:22 Pelinal Whitestrake really out here doing the science so we don't have to.

[@Michealxlr]

Great, now I have an urge to install a sea elf race mod and start a new playthrough where I attack summerset using an army of sea elf followers

[@anthonyKolesov]

If Orgnum gets younger with time doesn't that mean that eventually he will become child and thus less powerful, than he used to be? Perhaps his best chance to defeat Altmer was early on, when he was old and wise. I do appreciate those Elder Scrolls myths where gods look like squabbling nobles, perhaps from a previous kalpa, who just became creators of the new kalpa and brought in all of they old grudges and aliances into the new world.

[@chironOwlglass]

Honestly just love listening to your voice

[@thalmoragent9344]

Not gonna lie, if the Thalmor could, even if just for a moment, look past the prejudice (difficult to say the least), they would be wise to ally with the Maormer, just as they did in the 2nd Aldmeri Dominion, in order to bring an end to the Empire. It wasn't just Altmer, but also Maormer fleets that were decimated when the Numidium came and created a devastating cataclysmic event upon the Summerset Isles, and many Pyandonean ships were likely lost in the defense of Summerset's shores. If the Altmer could focus most of its power in its land assault, and let the Maormer handle the Fleet movements accordingly, they'd be able to give the Empire hell.

[@ncrrangerrolandtembo4615]

Thank you for another awesome lore vid

[@stephencampbell7603]

Hey man, love your content! When running around skyrim the other day, i found the Sleeping Tree Giant Camp, and was mesmerized by the glowing purple tree in dark evening. Have you done a video on this, or are you considering one?

[@redchylde]

What graphics and character mods are you guys using? Looks gorgeous.

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

Skyrim gave us a country with a massive coast that stretches pretty far out... and then made combat impossible in water and only made a small handful of shipwrecks to explore. The ships that are seaworthy only move if you charter one to take you to a different city and even then you don't actually see anything. Such a massively missed opportunity.

[@MeigetsuNoSeishin]

Oof... 27:47 mark and my immersion in the Lore being told to me is Shattered by horrible clipping on the armor over those arms 😂

[@MrDarthtelos]

Orgnum could be turning or have turned into a serpent like how Akaviri can become dragons.

[@jimejohns4988]

The sea elves are probably my favorite TES elf race besides the dark elves. I’ll enjoy this video.

[@LandStrider23]

Brah! Incredibly interesting take

[@gerbenvanegmond4007]

Great video!

[@vulpecula165]

Did anyone else notice the Black Mesa sign in that Redguard village around 26:24 minutes into the movie? Thats from the Halflife game right, whats it doing in elder scrolls? 😆 I doubt its very lore friendly but funny to spot though 🙂

[@MeanAndPristine]

Maormer being the Aldmeri equivalent of the first fish to grow legs is not a theory I was prepared for 😂

[@spider-spectre]

26:26 Black Mesa in Hammerfell? lol

[@garyodonnell7111]

You said in another video that the khajiit may be a type of elf. Would that mean they are meowmer?

[@nurrakugy5126]

I like to imagine that the maomer have underwater cities like jar jar binks race

[@MeanAndPristine]

No, but the Sload have coral kingdoms

[@dread-cthulu]

I've had my fingers crossed for a while, hoping that Zenimax gives us playable Maormer in ESO. In my opinion, they are the only race that would make any sense if they add a new playable race. They could give us a story tie in and let us go to Pyandonea. It would be awesome.

[@thelordofcringe]

I wish they went all out in the next elder scrolls game. Give us ALL the races. There's like 30 in lore and even modders have only implemented a small number (minotaurs, the frog people, the races of akavir, etc).

[@Greye13]

Great video, Scott. The Maomer are quite fascinating. If your theory is proven to be true (and I truly hope it is, even if just a small part of it), then it looks like the Altmer will have some serious explaining to do. We know how the Maomer feel about the Altmer, but I am curious how they feel about the other Elven races, as well as the human ones....? I would love to see more about the Maormer - both in FudgeMuppet videos and in future TES games - as a playable race. They are right up there with the Snow Elves (tied), being my favorite races in the games. The Bosmer are a very close second favorite. Thanks for doing a video on the Maomer.

[@rememberthefallen1970]

What armor mod is that? You've made me want to create a Sea Elf build

[@leathalEly]

I just assumed all elves are the closest form to original elves as they reflect elven souls influenced by gods creation of Nirn. And that sea elves adapted to the sea, and high elves fucked with goblins of summerset. They’re all technically original eves in their purest form.

[@grzegorzha.]

If TES6 is in Hammerfell, I hope they make an appearance.

[@kingofnorthumbria]

Bro there are like 7 different elves I'm tryna meet in hammerfell lmao

[@LeviathanSpeaks1469]

Maormer in ES VI: *Thalmor conquer their homeland* *Forced into Sentinel slum and harassed by xenophobic Redguards like how Dark Elves are treated in the Grey Quarter*

[@kingofnorthumbria]

@@LeviathanSpeaks1469 no... not funny....

[@natabugg1e]

@@LeviathanSpeaks1469nah if the thalmor attempts to conquer the maormer they’re not gonna win very easily.

[@CeleriaRosencroix]

You know, listening to the Storm Magic section made something occur to me: It seems like it might be the case that the Maormer have some sort of interaction and possibly trade relation with the people of Akavir. In particular, I would guess that they probably have some sort of kindred relationship with the Saesci, and if I'm being honest, I think that would actually go a long way to explaining the failure of the invasion by Uriel Septim V against that people's lands. The unexplained, shocking changes to the weather that the snake men of Akavir greatly benefited from could be pretty easily answered by the Saesci having learned to do so via cultural exchange with the Maormer over time. That campaign seems to have seen weather manipulation occurring in a slightly different way than the people of Pyandonea tend to use it, but that makes some sense insofar as Akavir is a place which presumably has far more land territory than the Maormer's home; thus leading to innovations the sea elves wouldn't naturally come to, themselves.

[@jt3307]

Make them a playable race in TES6 Hammerfell is the perfect spot for it since you can meet plenty of them in that general area in ESO

[@mrlunatic4816]

I hope we’ll see these guys once elder scrolls VI is released

[@robertschulte611]

Have you guys made a Maormer build yet?

[@idipped2521]

I’ve been wondering about the Maormer since 2011. But lazy Bethesda Game Studios have given us nothing, not just about the Maormer, but with this franchise as a whole since 2012. I’ve been watching this channel for almost 8 years and it would be nice to see a bit more criticism from FM with how BGS have handled this franchise. FM and other similar channels and communities have kept this fandom going for almost a decade and Bethesda are really out of excuses at this point

[@mybutthasteeth1347]

Except we've had ESO, which has and still is expanding the lore a LOT. You even see a lot of the Maomer in ESO

[@idipped2521]

@@mybutthasteeth1347 note that I said BGS, not Bethesda softworks. And in my opinion, TESO did not really give us much (interesting) lore about the Maormer, but that’s not the purpose of online anyways, it was just to show us them and maybe give a slight amount of info

[@Henrex2000]

​imagine an alternate timeline where Redguards (game) didn't suck and the Adventure series survived alongside the main series till this day. Hell, even a novel like The Infernal City every couple years would be deeply appreciated.

[@idipped2521]

@@Henrex2000 Redguard sucking was just another excuse for Bethesda to be lazy and not venture out further. Whenever somebody asks why they don’t do more with the franchise and it’s sitting in a corner collecting dust, it’s “BUT MUH REDGUARD”. I’m not going to be making any excuses for Bethesda anymore and I’m sick of their laziness and people dicksucking making excuses for them saying they shouldn’t create spin-offs cuz a game that came out 25 years ago sucked

[@donovanfaust3227]

I've heard enough BGS criticism to last a lifetime and have plenty of my own. This is a lore and theory crafting channel, focusing on what they have to work with and creating great videos that immerse you in the lore and world of ES. I'm sure they do have their complaints but that's obviously not the kind of content they want to create. We all know BGS could be doing better, it is discussed ad nauseum. I personally don't see the point in talking about it though in the middle of a lore video. There's other places for that and it's not like the negativity is what's keeping the community alive. Really it sounds like you just want your complaints parroted back to you to get some kind of validation.

[@teyanuputorti7927]

Great makes me excited for elder scrolls 6

[@Airagon_]

Can you guys do a video on how developing up works in lore? Like I understand more magic means more spells or higher spells, and high skill means better attacks with a weapon. But how does health actually work?

[@moskaumaster1594]

It doesnt its just purely gameplay mechanics.

[@Airagon_]

@@moskaumaster1594 I guess. But does stamina represent how long one can fight and run like runners stamina? Makes sense as muscles gets stronger and people train as athletes or soldiers. More magic makes as one gets better they learn skill and efficiency with costs and more powerful sorcerers usually have more magic so it makes sense. I understand if health is just a mechanic but in some cases the trailers for eso makes it seem like the case.

[@moskaumaster1594]

@@Airagon_ It would represent the fact that in stories and legends heroes are rarely killed by just a random arrow going into their ribs. Its a hold over from older RPG systems and does not represent anything.

[@Mary_Beth_Reimer]

This was interesting, thank you! 😊 Any chance they are related to the Tsaesci, or learned some of the serpent magic from them?

[@idipped2521]

There’s no chance, there’s a chance they interacted but I highly doubt it was on a large scale since that would probably either mean war or a joint invasion of Tamriel since their interests both pretty much boil down to destroying Tamriel

[@badluck5647]

Unlikely, as they are from Summerset/Aldmeris, while the Tsaesci are from Akaviri However, there may be a connection between them and the Lefthanded Elves/Yokudan as the Sea Elves worship Satakal -- the Snake God.

[@idipped2521]

@@badluck5647 I highly doubt that as well but at least it’s plausible. The most fun way to think of the elder scrolls universe is to think about all of the things that happen on Tamriel that we don’t hear about or on Nirn in general. I’m sure Maormer and Tsaesci hypothetically have interacted before, but I mean it would have to be the most badass of the badass of Maormer to make it to Akavir and actually be accepted into their society to learn whatever they were going to learn. It would have to be somebody on the level of the nerevarine essentially. The same with the Tsaesci going to Pyandonea

[@idipped2521]

@@badluck5647 but now to think of it I’m sure there are sea snakes in the oceans of yokuda so what you’re saying about the connection to Satakal may be true. Perhaps the Maormer worship some god that is similar to Satakal since they rely on the sea snakes so heavily

[@badluck5647]

@@idipped2521 There is a Maormer artifact of Satakai in ESO.

[@ogrejoe8862]

Unrelated to the video but I had a question. What's your take on argonian Dragonborns? Do you think akatosh would bestow this gift upon a race that does not worship him or was not created by him?

[@moskaumaster1594]

I mean Akatosh didnt create Nords either, we actually dont know what Akatosh's opinion is on the different races of Tamriel

[@DapperTengu]

Sea elves in Tamriel? And they didn't call them Mermer? Missed opportunity.

[@Darzaqho]

I have a question since I’m not really in course of everything that happens on the channel. Did Drew leave the channel ? I know he’s got a channel of his own but it’s been a long time I haven’t seen him here

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

There was a creative schism between Drew and the rest of FudgeMuppet, so he branched off on his own. They don't have any beef that I know of; it's more a mutual agreement to terminate what they had.

[@vaznook3226]

I hope we see them in the next elder scrolls and made a playable race

[@requiem9167]

Will you guys be playing the new baldurs gate? Seems up your alley

[@bobbywasabi5982]

Is Sulan Dres part 3 coming soon?

[@twinphalanx4465]

I wonder if the snakelike Tsaesci and the maormer are related in any way

[@Ian-scott05]

Kind of unrelated but does anyone know if the dragon crisis extended outside of Skyrim to the rest of Tamriel/Nirn? I’ve always wondered this and if so how did the rest of the world outside of Skyrim deal with it?

[@moskaumaster1594]

We wont know till TES6 comes out. I think the Beyond Skyrim team is having them appear in other provinces but not at the same scale.

[@LennyJ.Aguilera]

Amazing!!!😮 ⭐

[@es68951]

Orgnum's Coffer? Sounds like someone found a duplication glitch 😄 ...but then the Godhead patched it 😢

[@bomchacalaca0]

Hot take: The "pure falmers" are actually aldmers And the "monstrified falmers" are the real snow elves with it's adaptation rushed by the dwemers. And the wispmother is the original form of the mer, so the dwemer were actually experimenting with rushing and reverting elven evolution with the powers of tonal magic and the heart of lorkhan.

[@Johny60545]

Maybe random thought but it would be an interesting idea to make a video on how would Skyrim look realistically according to lore. I mean actual population/scale of region/towns etc and maybe some monuments/towns/settlements not included in the game. Would probably require a lot of work but really think it would be interesting to see. In any case keep up the good work!

[@LemonCrisp_Gaming]

Would be great

[@GalaxyXLII]

Hey brothers this is totally unrelated to elder scrolls but on a Fallout topic. I know it's been years and not sure if anyone may still play fallout 3 and NV (maybe so) but would yall be able to do some newer builds for FO3 & NV and/or lore based content, me and some of the other people who watch your videos would love to see some of that. There's no FO3 builds on YT, so maybe yall could get the engine going possibly. Love your work brothers keep fighting the good fight.

[@angryvaultguy]

Imagine during the second great the maomer invade alinor when most of the dominion is pre occupied with the war

[@MeSoTrashed]

The Muppets of Fudge speaks it into existence.

[@Dwemerdude]

it would be really cool if you did a vampiric dragon priest🧛🧛🐲

[@captaincokecan]

Do the sea elves sell sea shells at the seashore?

[@lincolnlog5977]

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[@danbauer3669]

Yeah. Obviously. How else are they going to make an honest living?

[@thorodinsson5684]

Holy shit a new video