SHOGUN 1x1 'Anjin' Blind Reaction!

[@732ReviewCrew]

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[@SpitFir3Tornado]

By the way this show is in VASTLY superior quality on Disney+ than it is on Hulu (at least that is what my American friend told me who was watching it on Hulu at first). The story is roughly based on real historical events but all of the names are changed, some changed a bit (which is probably why Toranaga sounds familiar, won't say more than that), some a lot. Couple other details: Blackthorne is English but the ship is Dutch (Erasmus was a Dutch philosopher). With the exception of when the crew of the Erasmus is speaking to each other (which is Dutch), spoken English in the show is actually Portuguese. I saw some people get confused by this because the subtitles can be inconsistent in saying which language they are speaking.

[@732ReviewCrew]

Good to know!!

[@DBCuzitis]

Yes, James Clavell wanted his novel to be based in an authentic historical period and inspired by real events and people. However, he knew he was writing a fiction novel so he changed or tweaked the names of characters from history to let him tell a fictional story without being tied to trying to be accurate to actual people or events. “Inspired by” is a great way to look at his novel and the series.

[@Sinewmire]

Characters are: In Japan, your family name comes before your given name John Blackthorne, English pilot on a Dutch privateer. Toranaga, council member and Lord of Foreign Affairs Ishido, leader of the council and rival to Toranaga Yabushige (Kasigi Yabu) opportunistic ally to Toranaga Omi, Yabushige's nephew and master of the village of Ajiro Kiku, the best courtesan near Ajiro Toda Hiromatsu, Toranaga's right-hand man Toda Mariko, daughter in law of Hiromatsu, and christian Vasco Rodriguez, Spanish ship pilot Dayoin, nun, and wife of the late Taiko Yaechio, the Taiko's heir Lady Ochiba, Yaechio's mother, currently not a hostage at Toranaga's castle.

[@732ReviewCrew]

Thank you so much, the official page also has the characters too! Appreciate this

[@Shadowman4710]

Just a clarification, Toranaga doesn't have a claim to the Imperial Throne. What he's after is the Shogunate, which is basically the equivalent of a military dictator. The Emperor was a ceremonial figurehead at this point. Shogun translates to "Barbarian Suppressing General" or something along those lines. It's been over 30 years since I read the novel.

[@732ReviewCrew]

That makes more sense. The young boy has the claim, correct?

[@Shadowman4710]

@@732ReviewCrew Well, he has the claim to the Shogunate, since his mother is a member of the Samaurai ruling class. His father, The Taiko was a famous general but was a peasant so he couldn't technically be Shogun. Toranaga is also a member of the aristocracy with a technically better claim that the boy does. That's why everybody is afraid of him...that and the fact he's one of the richest men in Japan and has a huge army behind him. It's all very Henry Vth.

[@arahard25017]

By the way, Toranaga's descendant, Ieyasu tokugawa , and his family reigned for approximately 260 years.

[@shirankedo-ib8uv]

This was the period when Japan was unified under the military dictatorship of the Taikō. Shōgun was appointed by Emperor, meaning "general to defeat the eastern barbarians". Although the Emperor was deprived of real political power, their authority continued to exist, as when samurais asked, "What should we do if the Emperor comes to the battlefield to conquer us?" the Shōgun replied, "Immediately cut the bowstring, get off your horse, and kneel to the Emperor". Basically, the Emperor's job is a priesthood, so the Pope's close.

[@JonInCanada1]

James Clavell wrote Shogun in 1975 which is an engrossing read. His first book was King Rat, followed by Tai-Pan, then came Shogun followed by Noble House, Whirlwind and Gai-Jin. All of which are brilliant stories all set in the Japans.

[@732ReviewCrew]

Definitely gonna have to take a look into them thank you

[@Shadowman4710]

Umm, no they're not. Tai-Pan and Noble house are set in China and Whirlwind is set in 1979 Iran. I haven't read Gai-Jin so I can't speak to that.

[@JonInCanada1]

@@Shadowman4710 apologies, you are quite right. My heart is in Japan and so too, it seems, is my brain. 🤪

[@Bnio]

@@Shadowman4710 King Rat is set in the Changi prisoner of war camp in Singapore during WWII. Tai-pan is set in Hong Kong during the first year it was a British colony in 1841. Shogun is Japan in 1600. Noble House is Hong Kong in 1963 (and starring many of the decendents of Tai-Pan). Whirlwind is Iran just before the revolution of 1979 (and stars people who work for the company from Noble House). Gai-Jin is Japan in 1864 (and features decendents of both Shogun and Tai-Pan.)

[@corgiluver9718]

Really enjoying the show so far, glad you are reacting to it.

[@732ReviewCrew]

Woop Corgi is joining us!

[@arahard25017]

09:24 Shogun is a temporary position in the imperial court called Seii Taishogun. The Seii Taishogun was originally the commander-in-chief of the army that was formed to subjugate the EZO (a powerful clan in Hokkaido), an ethnic group in the northeast region who did not submit to and were in conflict with the Yamato Imperial Court(currently the japan imperial family). From 1185 onwards, samurai families (a general term for families with military-related government positions in Japan) were appointed by the imperial court, held military power, and held real political power.

[@732ReviewCrew]

Thank you!

[@paintedjaguar]

🌸⛩ I really hope you guys will also do the the 1980 mini-series. The two shows feel quite different, which would make an interesting comparison and the original was excellent. After seeing the first 4 episodes of this one and re-watching the original adaptation, I think the new version just isn't as impressive as the old one, which: - didn't use constant dark & gloom to hide a bunch ofI and choppy editing - was beautifully filmed on location in Japan, including Osaka Castle - used full-scale Japanese and European ships (the Erasmus was actually sailed to Japan before filming started) - used authentic sets and costumes hand constructed with traditional methods, including an entire fishing village - had a largely Japanese cast speaking Japanese dialogue with no subtitles, putting the viewer in the place of the foreigner Blackthorne - had a wonderful Mariko (Yoko Shimada) who moved and spoke like a traditional Japanese woman, not a bitchy 21st century girl. Best thing in the show IMO. - had a Blackthorne who didn't resemble a block of wood - had a great performance by John Rhys Davies as Rodrigo. - had a remaining cast every one of whom was memorable and well acted, even the small roles 🌸⛩ On the other hand, I've always wished to see more of the Japanese politics from the novel, so there's that, and I have no complaints about Sanada as Toranaga. Also, the new costuming is very elaborate and pretty, even though it feels a but too modern Hollywood - reminds me of current superhero outfits with all the textured materials. Maybe I'm wrong about that. But where are the orange robes the Jesuits should be wearing?

[@huga9705]

Love your guys reaction.

[@fen3184]

I first read Shogun 42 years ago, when I was on holiday, a few months before my 10th birthday... 😂 I spent almost that entire holiday sitting on the beach with a book as big as my head...! Needless to say, I struggled with ideas like navigation rutters, and imagined them as maps, but I was captivated with the story and have reread it so many times. Game of Thrones isn't a terrible modern comparison, but maybe it's more like House of Cards?

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

MVP of the series, I can already tell you, the Spaniard. if you have a grumpy Spaniard in your cast who's always pissed off at life for whatever reason, you know he's a solid bro.

[@732ReviewCrew]

That's our middle guy on the channel!

[@Bekka_Noyb]

such a great show! ♥

[@RandomNPC001]

FYI: Blackthorn speaks English only to his crew, after that EVERY TIME you hear English being spoken it is supposed to be Portuguese. This show is a remake of a TV mini series from the 80`s.

[@732ReviewCrew]

I noticed that on edits! Makes sense for audiences

[@RandomNPC001]

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[@JonInCanada1]

And that series itself is based on the Amazing book Shogun by James Clavell

[@RandomNPC001]

@@JonInCanada1👍👍

[@Shadowman4710]

I think it's more of an adaptation of the novel, then a direct remake of the 80's miniseries. This is quite different from that one.

[@alesh2275]

lol, I liked you three guys’ review!

[@BlackDeathThrash]

IRL, Yoshii Toranaga is Tokugawa Ieyasu, the first Tokugawa shogun. Ishido is Ishida Mitsunari. Most of the characters are based on real people.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Many thanks to Mikey, Joe and Mike! 🗾 My mother and I loved the mini-series from 44 years ago. This one is great, so far, too.

[@vayne-he9yi]

Ishido can't actually become shogun, he doesn't have the bloodline for it. Also, he wasn't really wrong. Toranaga IS suddenly building up his power through marriages and other means, which is pretty suspicious in their eyes.

[@otohime8516]

Kiku is the "best" cause she's the only one doing these stuff, if you don't have competition ofc you're the best, other women and men are suffering and worried about the tomorrow, without the "pretty previlege" and the "power", women and men was left to the porverty and opression.

[@mcgee227]

I've seen the original at least 40 times since 1980.

[@Aeolusdallas]

The story is a real story but the author changed the names and moved things around a bit

[@Sinewmire]

Ooops, got my comment deleted, must have been about the bucket! It's just to ritually clean his sword before he does The Thing I Can't Say. I loved the rope joke, didn't see it myself, but yeah, it's got to be on purpose. Try watching episodes 1-5 of Sengoku Jidai by Extra Credits, it'll give you some of the historical context.

[@732ReviewCrew]

Weird! I didn't delete any comments, let me check flagged messages &edit Not there. Maybe KZbin said no

[@Sinewmire]

@@732ReviewCrew Yeah, it was fast so I think I used the Japanese word for The Thing With The Bucket and youtube objected.

[@Shadowman4710]

@@732ReviewCrew It's KZbin. Comments are getting deleted randomly having nothing to do with content.

[@beeaye7944]

Yep. First delete your son, then self delete. Lady Fuji is pissed to not only lose her son, but also forced to live with the shame.

[@beeaye7944]

Yep. First delete your son, then self delete. Lady Fuji is pissed to not only lose her son, but also forced to live with the shame.

[@takaoageishi]

7:20 The previous film in 1980 also had this scene. Is it an epoch-making scene that must be inserted?　It is an unpleasant scene.

[@Bnio]

The book remarks the guy's inner thoughts about how until the day that barbarian dies, he will never be able to rid himself the feeling of being peed on.

[@BlackDeathThrash]

In the 1980 mini-series John Rhys-Davies (Gimli from LOTR) played Rodrigues, I like him in the role better than this new guy, but overall this new series is spectacular.

[@732ReviewCrew]

That's a crazy casting

[@BlackDeathThrash]

it is a great series, but your editing really took away from the episode, hope it improves with subsequent episodes. "throwing rope" wins the Internet!

[@732ReviewCrew]

I'm still relatively new to editing(one year in, self taught) and absolutely will take any critique or suggestions :)! Also glad to see someone enjoyed the throwing rope joke.

[@Aeolusdallas]

The story is a real story but the author changed the names and moved things around a bit