Shokz OpenSwim Pro Review - Unsponsored!

[@JakeOski]

Just as a heads up - after many of you've asked about this, I've reached out to Shokz to see if they're planning on brining back option to switch between the folders in future firmware updates. Here's what came back (UPDATE! SOLUTION BELOW THE QUOTE): "Openswim pro has cancelled the folder switching function, and can only play in the order of folder import. This is a product definition and cannot be improved by upgrading the firmware. We are sorry for the inconvenience." WORKAROUND: - Put songs for each of your playlists in separate folders. - When in MP3 mode switch playback to "Shuffle" by pressing Volume+ and Multifunction button (on the side of the speaker) for 2 secs. - Keep shuffling until you'll hear the song from the album/playlist of your choice (typically within 2/3 songs). - Switch back to "Normal" as in step 2. It's not ideal but it works. Thanks to @PaigeEscapes for the tip off!

[@Shelboooooo]

Was gonna purchase them until I read this. Your review was great as well, thank you.

[@JakeOski]

@ yeah it’s a pretty stupid move on their behalf…

[@xen0m]

Thanks for the information. Not going to buy now. Great work Shokz. Looks like you don't need money.

[@scottcuk1]

Unsponsored is the only reason I clicked on this, thank you!

[@karinfransson3129]

Thank you! Exactly the sort of info I wanted. Also, loving the way you mentioned your mindset regarding filmning in the swimmingpool. That right there is what respect looks like ❤

[@JakeOski]

Stoked it helped and thanks for the kind words :-)

[@ZenEndurance]

Agreed. I've been a user of the regular Shokz for years and used to swim with music a long time ago. A never bought Shokz's swim headphones because they are really limited (no bluetooth) but also was having to buy a new set of regular Shokz every year because my sweat would eventually kill them. Finally, a pair that is both totally waterproof AND bluetooth AND mp3 capable! I wear them for everything and they just work. Yes, they need help with the music selection while swimming... but that hopefully is coming and it's nice to have it at all. And it's so cool to come in from a bike ride or run and just go straight into the shower or jump in the pool without having to worry about getting them too wet. Splashproof is ok, but truly waterproof is way better and more convenient for sure.

[@OWS777]

Hi, can you hear a difference in sound quality between openrun pro and the new openswim pro?

[@allahousalami]

What is coming?

[@sebkeccu4546]

I love the upgrade from 4GB (not enough) to 32GB , we can now hold up to 10.000 songs by putting them in folders on the headphones, however they forgot to add a "Next folder" feature, which makes it impossible to use the 32GB because you cant navigate.I for example have put a folder of audio books, a folde rwith podcasts and a folder with all my music, but the playing always starts at the first folder, so you have to click hundreds of times the next button. I hope one day they make it possible to select the folder from the phone app, or via 4 clicks on the multifunction button.

[@krystian4725]

@@sebkeccu4546agree I’m literally either sick of my 50 songs rotation or bored or switching them every few seconds because I don’t like that type of music or don’t want to listen to audiobook

[@Calmdown1354]

Hi, just wondering what your thoughts on chopping the old Openswims and Openrun Pros in exchange for a pair of these? I like only needing one pair for everything, but don't want to loose the sound quality when using outside of the pool!

[@Stevonoles1]

I swim on a masters team everyday. The open swim and previous name were flawless, until either the plastic charger tab would brake and the clam shell would not stay shut, or the actual earphone part separates from the headband, near the buttons, allowing water to get in and ruin them. That being said, I have had 3 pair and each lasted about 1 year, swimming around 3000 yards each day. Just bought the pro versiion, so we will see how long they last. The seam between the headphone and headband area, does appear to be different and more robust. SHOKZ WILL NOT stand behind the 2 year warranty when registered, so don't count on that. They really should be ashamed of that policy.

[@JakeOski]

Hey dude, that sounds crap - what's the point in 2 year warranty if doesn't cover the seam which is pretty crucial? Sorry to hear that you've gotta replace them every year. So far mine have been stellar but I'm not anywhere near your usage load - 3k yds sounds insane!

[@WariWahab]

Awesome review Jake.. I don't swim as much as I'd like, but I do like headphones that I can use after a good bike/run workout and straight to the shower! And, I also don't care much about sound quality, other than I just need to be able to hear them. I've broken a few Shokz due to this habit of mine, so this would be great if it works as advertised

[@JakeOski]

Same here, no probs even with Bluetooth under the shower. However, a speaker works better - cancelling out my singing 😂

[@pollymaephillips5793]

can you leave it in Bluetooth mode when swimming i dont go underwater so it shouldn't cut out?

[@xen0m]

Would like to know too

[@dayneupperman7675]

So I have the open run pros and I had wondered the same thing. I figured since they were somewhat water resistant I would give it a try. If you dip your head in the water at all (like in freestyle swimming) then the connection is lost but then regained as soon as you breach the water again.

[@mooping9398]

I own these and YES. However after about 50 feet or so the Bluetooth starts to cut in and out. I swam laps today with my phone next to the pool and enjoyed the jazz.

[@parisetflorian]

In my case, I do open water swimming and even with my phone in my swim suit on my neck/back and the moment I put my water under the water, they start dropping every few seconds. So I guess, the Bluetooth doesn’t go through water even for a few centimeters. Hope that helps!

[@rolo07S]

Have been someone that have al ready tried in laps on a pool of 25m (~30 yard or ~80 feet). I mean using in BT and not in MP3, it still working when you are swimming in crawl style?

[@PatríciaSilva-t9w]

Great review, thanks. I am looking for some earbuds for swimming. I am currently deciding between Shokz OpenSwim pro vs. Sony WS623. who's the best? Thanks

[@JakeOski]

Never had Sony ones but Shokz have both MP3 and Bluetooth. There are also the new Suunto Aqua that I’m currently testing and they’re awesome!

[@lltc7185]

​@@JakeOskiare you going to be posting a review of the suunto aqua?

[@JakeOski]

@@lltc7185 Yes! Got them just now, just need to get them wet now. Great headphones! I won't be able to trial the advanced swimming tracking functions as I'm rocking messed up shoulder (I swim like I'm drowning 🤣) but I'll test everything else. Stay tuned!

[@lltc7185]

@@JakeOski oh great I've been waiting for your review to decide between them and the open swim pros! I'll look forward to it :)

[@marcosrocha7661]

Awesome review, I was looking at these for Kitesurfing and coincidentally you kite with those, so after your review I will definitely get one!

[@JakeOski]

It defo give you bigger balls when pulling off kiteloops 😂 I tend to suffer a massive skill deficiency vs ambitions when riding with some heavy stuff playing 🤘🏻 Enjoy dude 🤙🏻

[@ralphgermershausen66]

Great review. Ordered mine today. Will report how they feel while wingfoiling!

[@JakeOski]

Good music adds more flow to the flow ;)

[@Genesiobob]

Great review, thank you! If I listen to an mp3 audiobook or podcast, is there a way to resume from where I left it at the end of my previous swim?

[@JakeOski]

Every time when you power down it will start the mp3 from the beginning I'm afraid

[@MrBartHeijnen]

They resume from where you left it ( I have the openwim not the openswim pro)

[@5ohard2findau5ernam3]

thank you for comparing all the Shokz to compare the openswim pro! Was thinking of upgrading my open swim for the pro

[@JakeOski]

I think it's worth it for the Bluetooth for running :)

[@PaigeEscapes]

Thank you! Just wondering can I drag music directly from an external hard drive ( that is plugged into my Mac) to the shokz? Thank you so much!! And you don’t find it distracting while swimming at all? Thank you!

[@JakeOski]

Yeah that’s pretty much it - plug it into your Mac and drag and drop mp3 files onto the headphones. And nah, easier than trying to sing to yourself with headphones under the water 😂

[@PaigeEscapes]

@ thank you! And I don’t need to install the music on my Mac first? Just annoying and takes up space get it on and off! Thank SO much for your quick reply!

[@JakeOski]

Nah it’s just a simple mp3 files transfer - no need for any software etc - headphones are just getting discovered as another disc drive :)

[@PaigeEscapes]

@@JakeOski thank you so much! With the aqua earphones you are talking about, can you fast forward/ rewind the song without actually going the whole way back? I was given these for my birthday and I kind of feel like maybe I should have the aqua Shinto ones? Petrified. Shokz are amazing still??? Just saw the file formats for the sun to aqua tho- no mp3? What ?

[@paulfriedhelm]

Thanks. Do they really hold firmly while kitesurfing? I have the Sony WS Modell Series from a fee years ago (in ears). They do well, but, well I would live to hear my environment. Thanks

[@JakeOski]

Never really had a problem of them coming off but having a wee tether to the wetsuit is always good - just in case!

[@lennylink8772]

Good review. that special plug really sucks when you loose the cord.

[@kycalo]

Thanks for the video! It stopped me from buying the new OpenSwim Pro due to the lack of a ‘next folder’ function, the awkward placement of the main button on the side, and, as I understand, a shorter battery life compared to the older model. I’ll stick with my trusty OpenSwim for now. Shokz should consider integrating a way to transfer music from Apple Music, rather than relying on primitive copying from KZbin, especially when we’re paying for premium music services. That said, Shokz is still the best on the market when it comes to underwater use.

[@JakeOski]

I've just got the new Suunto Aqua and they have an option to switch playlists - I'll put up a detailed vid soon.

[@rockylincoln8418]

Excellent unpaid review Jake, thank you, great info made my decision to buy some of these, cheers from Australia

[@JakeOski]

Glad I could help :) They're awesome!

[@trentonendres485]

Wait so can I use these with my phone placed somewhere near the pool through Bluetooth while swimming or so I need to download my music/podcast onto it?

[@JakeOski]

In theory yes but as soon as the headset is under water it’ll break the Bluetooth connection. It’s better to just download stuff onto the headset

[@JustAFatGuyInTX]

How much of a difference do these sound between the Openrun Pro 2? I recently bought the latter recently and I'm lamenting losing the IP68 water resistance. The Openrun Pro 2 does sound nice but I'm curious how much nicer.

[@JakeOski]

It’s a fair bit cleaner sound from the Openrun Pro 2’s but not enough for me to switch from Openswim Pro since about 70% of my usage is in a water environment. And I really don’t mind the sound either.

[@campingprep4017]

I'm looking at OpenSwim Pro and OpenRun Pro 2. They are the same price. Would you know the difference in sound quality? I would love to go swimming and take baths with it (+cycling and walking) but is the sound quality difference significant?

[@JakeOski]

If you wanna go swimming then the Openswim Pro are defo the way to go. Openrun Pro 2 produce a clearer sound for sure but because of the air tech you can’t submerge these. I’d 100% go with Openswims in this case

[@campingprep4017]

@@JakeOski Thank you for your valuable insight! Just ordered mine, it will be arriving tomorrow. 💕

[@tommysafford2425]

I don’t wear a swim cap either and you said what sounded like they stay on fairly well would I be right? Sorry you also mentioned a swim cap so I kinda couldn’t tell if you think it would be needed

[@JakeOski]

Nah you don't need one, I never use one either. The sound is really decent for the type of headset and it stays on your head in most scenarios - mine has not fallen off yet and between surfing and kitesurfing that's a decent score!

[@user-th6il6zp8q]

Hi, great video! Would you consider comparing them with the just released Suunto Aqua Headphones? They also have some interesting tracking sensors and none has reviewed them yet!

[@JakeOski]

Hey! Good shout, just asked Suunto for a pair!

[@user-th6il6zp8q]

Great! Can’t wait to see them reviewed! Thank you very much!

[@JakeOski]

@ it’ll probs be after new year but I’m really interested how they compare!

[@322Patricia]

Very helpful Review, thank you very much for doing this

[@chickennugget11470]

Is the sound the exact same as the current openruns? I tried on some open run pros and found that the “bass” they added in those just uncomfortably vibrated on the sides of my head and actually preferred the normal openruns instead lol. I know you said these are more punchy so I’m curious if that’s in comparison to the current gen openruns

[@JakeOski]

This might be a pretty personal thing, I've found RunPro's being a bit annoying at first vs the standard ones but I got used to it fairly quickly. OpenSwim Pro are kinda similar in terms of vibrations - you can defo feel getting massaged by bass but the sound is a tad cleaner. It's something you'd definitely need to try - I think you can always send them back via Amazon if you feel they're giving you too much of a weird buzz :)

[@cheekbones2]

I consider the vocal mode as a bass reducer. .. reduces the vibrations while sacrificing music quality when you've got to have high volume. Best for calls and podcasts.. When it comes to surface swimming, the Achilles heel of my G7 is the touch control that will activate play/pause in water. Otherwise it's far better for sound and is proving just as durable otherwise. (volume/track physical buttons are also much easier to locate/use)

[@mustafakurce362]

Hello, thanks for the comments. I have a critical question. I tried the headphones in the store but the back is a bit loose, will this cause a problem while swimming? While other shokz models have a mini size, the swim model does not. Should the back be loose while swimming?

[@JakeOski]

I haven't had that issue even when smashing into the water kitesurfing so I'm sure that swimming won't be a problem either. And yeah the back band feels a bit loose on both Openrun Pro's in Small and Openswim Pro's. Otherwise it would latch onto your neck.

[@McLartyFilms]

Great review. Is the charging cable the same as the first generation open swim? Thx

[@JakeOski]

Thanks bud! Possibly! My Openswim pair is with a friend but I’ll check and report back towards end of the week :)

[@McLartyFilms]

@@JakeOski thanks I lost my charge cable first week after purchase !

[@krystian4725]

Good to hear that I’m not the only one using them on the maximum volume or at least 80% all the times I use them just for swimming but they just not loud enough for me

[@JakeOski]

Have you tried ear plugs? That kinda amplifies the sound a bit more - something I can’t do kitesurfing so I won’t jump into others :)

[@krystian4725]

@@JakeOski yes always with earplugs still not loud enough

[@AdrianO-od1xy]

I have had several (too many? maybe) pairs of both the "dry" Bluetooth and the open swim ones for years and I ABUSE THEM every day, all day, I also swim every day and finally consolidate them into a single pair it's perfect!

[@JakeOski]

My thoughts exactly!

[@janpakulski3889]

If I want to use them while lap swimming in a pool, how long is the bluetooth range? Can I do 25m laps while keeping my phone at the pool edge?

[@JakeOski]

You’d be ok with 25m but as soon as your head goes under the water the BT connection will break. Bluetooth has pretty much 0 water penetration, hence the MP3 mode

[@janpakulski3889]

@@JakeOski thanks.

[@poet8236]

I got mine and sent them back same day. The inability to actually manage your music library on the device and at least pick the folder you want to listen to is a 100% deal-breaker for me, and I am surprised not more people point out this massive failure of the Shokz's product managers. This feels like a product in early alpha, never should have been released with such huge lacks in usability.

[@JakeOski]

Yeah I kinda hope they'll add this in a firmware update ASAP. I've sent them an email, I'll see what comes back!

[@poet8236]

@@JakeOski Yes, unfortunately many have, and some already beginning of the year when the device was released. It's not explainable to me why Shokz would not react. This feels like a bricked device currently.

[@seband87]

Agreed and this is why I'm not purchasing

[@xen0m]

Seems like management is sabotaging the company. Even cheap noname waterproof headphones from aliexpress can switch folders. It's a firmware function FFS, why can't you have it?

[@adamcarrol2049]

You said you're dependent on the shuffle/mp3 feature while swimming - does the bluetooth connection not work while swimming?

[@JakeOski]

Bluetooth doesn’t work with water, so if you’re wearing a watch to stream music off as soon as your hand goes under it’ll break the connection.

[@adamcarrol2049]

@@JakeOski Okay, bummer, but thank you for the review!

[@yuktachidanandan5678]

@@JakeOski Great video, thanks for putting it out! I see some people saying they put their phone on in a waterproof bag or slipped their smart watch into the goggles to make the Bluetooth work. Do you think that could work?

[@JakeOski]

It’s about BT signal not travelling through the water well, I might give it a shot with Apple Watch and these and report back but usually you’re looking at something tiny as 4” of range when submerged.

[@kimphan9874]

It definitely worth the test to see if you can swim with the headphone and BT turn on with your phone by the pool.

[@sandralee7862]

i have one but it only lasts for 2 hrs. Is there specific way to charge battery? I bought it for longer battery, but it doesn't last more than 2 hrs.

[@JakeOski]

That's really weird - have you got in touch with warranty team? Has to be a faulty model...

[@sandralee7862]

@@JakeOski I'm very close to return it or call customer service. Thanks for your feedback.

[@JakeOski]

@@sandralee7862 Defo get in touch with them, I've had them a while now and they're still going strong!

[@sandralee7862]

@@JakeOski thanks. They are considering replacing a new one. Thanks.

[@sandralee7862]

Is this only for swim? Or can it work for run too?

[@Labrador7]

How does the bluetooth audio compare to the Suunto Wing? Is the fit equally comfortable? At first I really liked the idea of IP67 coupled with bluetooth audio and MP3 storage but I find the lack of playlist support to be a major oversight. By the way, thank you for the review. Your reviews are always very helpful, sharing honest insights unlike many reviews by sponsored influencers.

[@JakeOski]

It's pretty much the same fit and audio quality as Suunto Wing - if there are any differences, they are negligible. Totally, it's a bummer. If you've seen my pinned comment, Shokz acknowledged that managing playlists / jumping between the folders functionality has been removed and won't be included in any future firmware updates. Which sucks as previous model of Openswim had that... just not the Bluetooth. And many thanks for the kind words!

[@Labrador7]

@@JakeOski thanks for the replying to my question! 🙏

[@ironmangx-1969]

if you’re a swimmer or spends time mostly on water, go for the swimpro but if you bike run or walk go for the open run 2. but its weird using headphones on water, just enjoy swimming or the rain

[@Danysmolk]

I just got my open run pro 2, and saw someone at the pool with shokz and I was like 😮 didn't know there was a swimming option, should I change my open run 2 pro for this one?

[@JakeOski]

Haha it totally depends how often you take a dip. The Openswim Pro are my daily driver, the Openrun 2 Pro ended up with my wife :)

[@OWS777]

Can you compare the sound quality between openrun pro and the new openswim pro?

[@JakeOski]

They are very close, OS Pro sound a tiny bit cleaner but otherwise it’s a very comparable sound quality

[@erktigli5248]

I used openswim pro for the first time today. At first I swam a bit without earplugs and each time my head submerges and then up for a breath the sound was so much like distorted. Then I put earplugs and it stabilized a lot. Sound quality wasn't that good expecially under water that it's muffled a lot but it something we wouldn't expect anyway. Overall my first experience was okeyish, think I'm gonna get used to it by time. Also thanks for to review.

[@57esther]

I’m disappointed by them but the idea of using their ear plugs gives me hope.

[@57esther]

I’m disappointed by them but the idea of using their ear plugs gives me hope

[@tonyoertli6255]

I need Folders for the music!!!!! why did you remove this feature? I might return the headphones.

[@JakeOski]

Yeah switching folders is no longer an option sadly

[@Север-Юг-щ6э]

Yes, this is outrageous. I was unpleasantly surprised that they released such a crude product for sale.

[@niekverkuylen7388]

Would these be okay in the shower? I have worn the normal pros in the shower but it didnt feel safe for the buds

[@JakeOski]

Yeah no issues! Just keep in mind that different to a waterproof speaker you can actually hear yourself singing which, for me, what’s a bit traumatic 😂

[@niekverkuylen7388]

@@JakeOski hahaha crap, 😜 thank you very much, im a big fan of the others shokz has put out, so im going to get them for sure!

[@amirhalabi6608]

Please help me understand If I’m streaming music from my phone via Bluetooth I will not be able to listen while swimming ?

[@JakeOski]

Nope, Bluetooth and water don't mix, hence the MP3 mode for swimming.

[@60lader]

How do You attach the cable provided to an Apple laptop for Mp3

[@amirhalabi6608]

@@60lader easy, the cable is USB

[@pcexpertzzz]

@@60lader You need an adapter to go from USB C (thunderbolt) to USB A. I have a multip port dongle so I can connect many and multiple devices using just one port on my Mac. Once you havethen then just plugin and it works like a thumbdrive, just drag and drop the music flles.

[@zzbuckley]

Good review thanks. I am sorry if I have missed this but can you load your MP3’s by Bluetooth? I returned a previous set because I could get downloading to work

[@JakeOski]

You’ve gotta use a cable to do that dude

[@zzbuckley]

@@JakeOski 😖 thanks Jake

[@JustAFatGuyInTX]

I recently switched to these after briefly having the Openrun Pro 2. (Which I sold back for the Soundcore Aerofit 2, great headset) And these are pretty decent if you fit a specific niche. And that niche is if you're very active and absolutely need something with near perfect water proofing while keeping your ears exposed and open to hear your environment. As well as these being a single unit that goes around your head, since individual open ear headphones can potentially fall off. (Like the Shokz Open air) However if you want something a bit more basic for walks and jogging, there's many more options. The Openswim Pro's are an extreme when it comes to water resistance, usage and price. That and the sound is about equal to what I had with their original Openrun headphones, the only improvements are the water resistance and vibration. (Which they just limited the volume to not go as loud) Only get these if water resistance and hearing your surroundings are an absolute must.

[@JakeOski]

Pretty much this. Or if you're running without anything that can stream music.

[@koljarafferty681]

Great review, thanks for taking the effort.

[@JakeOski]

Glad it was helpful!

[@AnnaGriboedova]

The most interesting question for me- are they resistant to salt water? I really want to buy this ones as swim a lot, but I also do it in the sea pretty often. I have already kill my Apple Watch with salt water, but they was old, but I am scared about this nee and expensive headphones. I saw you swim kites, was it in the sea or not??))

[@JakeOski]

Yeah so far so good - my standard pair of Openswins survived countless sessions in the North Sea 🤙🏻

[@cheers70]

Subscribed because not sponsored.

[@Mrmmgramsfilms]

Is the microphone through bone conduction as well? I’m wondering if It would make it easier to take calls while cycling vs air pods etc which drown out your voice with wind and the person you are talking to has no chance of hearing you.

[@JakeOski]

Nah, also, I think the AirPods Pro 2 are much better at wind cancelling than these mate

[@Mrmmgramsfilms]

@@JakeOski bummer, because my airpod pro 2s don’t do shit for cancelling wind.

[@JakeOski]

@@Mrmmgramsfilms I haven't found ones that do any better dude :/

[@pcexpertzzz]

@@JakeOski I have Open SwimPro and the OpenComm 2. The OpenComm 2 is OUTSTANING for wind and other NC features. I can wear the Opencomm2 in my convertible and have phone conversations easily when the top is down. IMO a must for anyone who talks in a convertible with the top down.

[@owenneedham4651]

I'm a mountain biker, what type of bike do you have? Helpful review btw!

[@JakeOski]

Thanks dude! Currently Nukeproof Mega 290 but I’m thinking of Giga as next :)

[@deborahbullett1298]

HI - I have a small head and they feel so big on my head - any suggestion

[@JakeOski]

There’s not much you can do - the Openrun Pro 2 come in two sizes but they’re not made for swimming sadly :(

[@gl8282]

Should I buy open swim again or the pro. Sigh - I just lost my open swim …. Banging head now

[@JakeOski]

If you have a use for them outside the water then the Pro’s make sense

[@gl8282]

@@JakeOski good point - maybe that will encourage me to walk as well

[@janpakulski3889]

If they fall off in the water, do they sink or float? I like swimming in lakes …

[@JakeOski]

They sink dude, they never came off my head when swimming or kitesurfing mind.

[@janpakulski3889]

@@JakeOski Then, it's design shortcoming. They could easily design an air filled tiny compartment that would the headphones float.

[@JakeOski]

@ nope, if you’d get under water during say a flip transition it would pull the headphones off your head.

[@paraDice145]

Can you pair them to a watch with Spotify directly?

[@JakeOski]

You can, got them paired with my Ultra 2

[@MrKernkraft4000]

How's the bluetooth distance if you swim in a lap pool (and can't take the phone in the water with you obviously)

[@JakeOski]

You can't swim with BT - bluetooth signal doesn't penetrate water too well, some say they get away with having phone strapped to back of their heads but... I wouldn't recommend that. BT cuts off when one of the devices is under the water - hence why you can't stream music from your watch either. Just a tech limitation, hence the mp3 mode :)

[@MrKernkraft4000]

@@JakeOski Got it. That makes sense. Thank you for your response.

[@PaigeEscapes]

I found this on reddit & would love to know if it worked for you with switching folders ( do the pro have folders??): “SOLUTION: How to Change Folders in Shozk OpenSwim Pro I solved the folder problem by switching to shuffle mode, then changing a couple of songs until I recognize the other folder, and then switch it back to normal mode to select previous and next songs from that other folder. I did several tests and always switches between folders at 2nd and 3rd try. Unfortunately this is the only alternative solution since the OpenSwim Pro does not have a folder-switching function as indicated by customer service and confirmed in the user manual.”

[@JakeOski]

Got to try this on my headphones today and it works! Bloody awesome :) You just have to remember which songs are in which folder! To shuffle between the normal/shuffle/repeat modes without using the phone press Volume+ and Multifunction button (on the side of the speaker) for 2 secs.

[@PaigeEscapes]

@@JakeOski So glad it helped! Also if you have trouble getting the songs to play in the same order as on your computer if you batch drag to the shokz, I found this on shokz site. It makes sense- usbs and other things rearrange it too do to how they work. This should allow you to have the songs in the order you want. If it doesn’t work, do stem 2 kind of in reverse ( ie at step “2)” Click to select the first file. Hold down the shift button on the keyboard and click to select the last file. At this time, 1~20 are all selected). Still scared to open mine and not sure what to do or if I should swap- feel horrendous as they were a gift. Just scared it may get tiresome sorting things Links I tried to put in were seen as spam so just search “int help shokz how to lost track order on openswim formerly x trainer” & “en help shokz Name how to list tracks order “ . Hopefully it will come up

[@PaigeEscapes]

@@JakeOski oh it’s also very easy to batch rename a list of songs 01 to 30 et …

[@PaigeEscapes]

@ ah! Have you tried to stream music from your phone via Bluetooth to the Suntoo aqua headphones while swimming ? The shokz apparently can a little so wonder if the suunto aqua can too?

[@JakeOski]

@@PaigeEscapes only when neither of the devices is under water - BT doesn't penetrate liquids so it cuts off. In theory, if you keep your head above the water you're fine but as soon as you dive to make a turn it will cut off.

[@drnekodr]

What do you use as a tether for the headphones?

[@JakeOski]

For kitesurfing? Just a lanyard to the wetsuit. They haven't came off though which is a plus!

[@tidewalkermv]

Hello. What is the one you said you got for your kid, for like $30. I need the best budget option.

[@JakeOski]

They’re all about the same at that price range. And they work ok for what they are :)

[@tidewalkermv]

@@JakeOski I couldn't figure out what either of them were. Could you give me a name

[@narcoticmonke2382]

I had a different pair of shokz and they did work with my full face when i tilt the band down (didn't do much to the sound) i hope the pros are the same

[@JakeOski]

Might be down to head and helmet size too - I ride a Medium Leatt Enduro and the band sticks out a bit too much for my head size. Run Pro and Run Pro 2 come in Standard and Small so I guess the Small one might fit under the lid. Can't wait for weird looks in the store when I'll come to try them on 😂

[@narcoticmonke2382]

@JakeOski oh got it the only difference is i run a large but yeah Leatts are nice

[@JakeOski]

@@narcoticmonke2382 they might fit closer then :) I've just tried that on the new Openrun Pro 2's and there's no way 😂 Posted a vid on this yesterday :)

[@danmac9170]

Does it connect to a Garmin watch whilst swimming? Or do I need to download music MP3 style to the shoks?

[@JakeOski]

You can connect it to Garmin no probs but as soon as your hand goes under the water the connection will break - Bluetooth doesn't penetrate water too well. Hence the mp3 mode.

[@michaelconnolly3960]

Good review man. Many thanks.

[@JakeOski]

Stoked it was helpful 🤘🏻

[@soapyvanshoey]

So how loud are they? I want to wear them for music in the hot tub and long in door rowing sessions. And i have some cheaper waterproof bone conduction headphones and the volume when rowing is none existent.

[@JakeOski]

I can hear music when kitesurfing so rowing should be easy enough :)

[@mctechies745]

Does it have a folder navigation capability, to keep podcasts and audio books seperated from music?

[@JakeOski]

Nope, the previous Openswim headphones had that (pressing and holding + button you were skipping between the folders) and for some reason Pro doesn't have that... It might come in a firmware update... I hope!

[@YoutubeSalvatrucha]

What are better mojawa run plus or Schokz openswim pro. Also Sound Compirson. Because i cant Consider between these two.

[@JakeOski]

Sorry, I've never had Mojawa's so can't say.

[@andrzejkubiak1461]

Is there any way to control the order of the Playlist? For example with numbers in the file name? I listen to audiobooks while swimming and it would make me furious if I couldn't get the thing to play the parts of the book in order.

[@JakeOski]

Yeah you can set playback as Normal, Shuffle and Repeat so if you'll name files in the right way it should just go through them in order.

[@sam10818]

Can we connect to the phone/laptop?

[@JakeOski]

Yeah no probs, Openswim Pro connects via Bluetooth, it's the standard Openswims that only have the MP3.

[@craigslist220]

Is the band that goes around the head smaller on the newer one?

[@JakeOski]

It’s the same

[@mikesilas23]

@jakeoski When you are swimming laps, and your head goes underwater and your ears fill up with water, do you really still hear the music well? I've never used bone induction players before. thanks.

[@JakeOski]

You actually hear it better! That’s why they add ear plugs with these but with my stupid ears they never stay in :)

[@mikesilas23]

@@JakeOski Thanks for the review and getting back to me. I have been using sony waterproof mp3 for years, but my cap pushes them out of my ears soo i think this may solve the problem. I ordered a pair :)

[@mikephilpot]

Could one surf with these? Not HUGE surf if you will, but small - medium size Florida surf.

[@JakeOski]

Yeah easy, I’d use some kind of tether though when you’re getting minced on the inside ;)

[@royaldo7]

Just bought one based of your review. I'm about to return them as any songs I move to the folder, Shokz doesnt recognise it when I move to MP3 mode. Anyone else had this issue? Can it be resolved?

[@JakeOski]

That’s really odd, never had an issue like this - it recognises all mp3 files I’ve used…

[@tom0nott]

Please put chapter markers in. Couldn't find mic test which is all I wanted after the in store audio check.

[@JakeOski]

Dunnio where they went! Got them re-added, hope it helps!

[@adinacristescu5789]

What if I swim in an indoor pool with my head above the surface? Can I use bluetooth? Thank you

[@JakeOski]

Theoretically yes

[@Stevonoles1]

Yes

[@pcexpertzzz]

@@Stevonoles1 100% YES, If I am doing water training in the pool my head is always above the water, and these work fantasticly. I just place my phone ANYWHERE around the pool and they just work.

[@pollymaephillips5793]

i wanted to know the answer to this as it could still connect to the Bluetooth on my watch and my head is always above the water

[@JakeOski]

@@pollymaephillips5793 but your arm isn’t

[@MatthewMarvel189]

But when i use for swimming the bluetooth sound doesnt work

[@JakeOski]

That's why you've got mp3 mode for swimming

[@pranze3484]

Mine only worked for 6 months before the left ear stopped working, pretty disappointed given the high price tag. Meanwhile my H2O audio tri is still rocking after 18+ months.The transfers are super slow and it's only 8G, but I'd rather have something that works than something that doesn't...

[@JakeOski]

Have you claimed warranty on it? Mine are still going strong despite all the salt water use

[@pranze3484]

@@JakeOski yes, and they're sending me a new one without asking to return the defective one so really good support. Hope this one lasts...

[@JakeOski]

@@pranze3484 fingers crossed!

[@kawh8719]

I like that you say 'swimming costume' it's more fun, imo, than 'swim suit.'

[@ezrajordan9020]

Do they work in Bluetooth Mode while swimming?

[@JakeOski]

Nope, Bluetooth doesn't penetrate water hence the mp3 option

[@JPH675]

Do these allow for phone calls?

[@JakeOski]

They do in mp3 mode

[@edexireland3542]

Are these ok in Steam room ?

[@JakeOski]

I’ve no idea, never tried it 😂 I guess so :)

[@Stevonoles1]

Yes

[@kavenvaillancourt3318]

I just bought them swimming mode give a great quality when the ear are fill with water. When you use the earplugs the quality is not that good and the swimming mode is awful. on land they are ok but I will not recommande if you main goal is not swimming

[@JakeOski]

Yeah the sound quality in general is nowhere near normal buds but I haven’t found any that are so unobtrusive as Shokz when running or doing anything vigorous.

[@ezrajordan9020]

Do they work in Bluetooth Mode while swimming?

[@cheekbones2]

I'm still surprised that water and earplugs "sound" differently. Anyone make water-filled earplugs?

[@Север-Юг-щ6э]

I received these headphones the other day with 32 GB of memory. I liked the headphones themselves but not the mp3 player. I did not find in this player a file search function or a rewind function, just flipping through files one by one. The controls are the same in the smartphone app. It's unbearably long and boring. It's like an old cheap MP3 player. And why does such a player need 32 GB memory?

[@JakeOski]

They've had the folders skipping in the previous Openswims so I hope they'll add this back in with a software update. You can go back on a song by pressing and holding volume - for 2 seconds.

[@jondivision5518]

Why would it be creepy to ask you to test the swimming headphones while swimming?? Do you only have access to pools with only kids???

[@JakeOski]

I've tested them while swimming but I won't film in a swimming pool with other people in their swim suits. Not sure what's so hard to understand. Put more question marks next time.

[@Bhallmed]

The idea behind using these out of the water is to keep situational awareness while running or biking. And some races don’t allow in ear headphones due to safety concerns.

[@AnarchyEnsues]

Whats the Bluetooth range like when swimming laps?

[@JakeOski]

Haven't tried leaving my phone by the pool but given that my head goes under the water when swimming my best guess is that it would cut the BT connection

[@tomlawless4406]

Just unboxed a pair and I’m sending them straight back sound quality is so so disappointing

[@JakeOski]

Compared to standard headphones - for sure, but that's how bone conduction works.

[@SaudAlWahbi1]

Non of you guys ever tests a microphone, that's a conflict of interest

[@JakeOski]

Two things - look up "conflict of interest" because you're not using it right. Look at 10 minutes for microphone test, I've even made a chapter. Here, served on a silver platter.

[@adriangabrielgramada1016]

Nice review but terrible jaw issues :)

[@JakeOski]

From all my faults I’ve never consider my jaw to be one of them 😂 Since everything is “phobic” now… my jaw is offended by your jawphobism! 🤣

[@adriangabrielgramada1016]

@@JakeOski What I meant was that you really need to exercise opening more your jaw if ever you need to visit a dentist (hopefully not). It was never an aesthetic debate ;)

[@JakeOski]

@@adriangabrielgramada1016 see and everyone else says I've got a big mouth 😂

[@joco2826]

Called OpenSwim but he barely talks about swimming 🙄

[@JakeOski]

There are some epic channels on swimming lessons - just have a look 😂

[@PaigeEscapes]

These still better than the suunto (?) aqua? 🫣🩵surely they are both great?

[@JakeOski]

Just got the Suunto Aqua and testing them right now - great headphones with one big (IMO advantage) over these, I'll get it published in the coming days :)

[@PaigeEscapes]

@ I just got shokz for my birthday 😣 I feel like I should have got these now and feel terrible

[@JakeOski]

@ nah don't, it's just option to make playlists with mp3's. In the first version of Openswims we've had an option to switch between the folders which was taken away in the Pro's for some bizarre reason. Both sound very similar as there's only so much you can do with bone conduction tech. I've been using these since the release date (bikes, runs, skateboarding, kitesurfing) and they've done awesome. So don't get FOMO over small things :-)

[@PaigeEscapes]

@ gosh! Thank you!! So keep the shokz? They are still the best? I still can have folders but just not switch them in the mp3 mode? And I made a comment about folder switching- found it on reddit ☺️ Someone apparently fixed the folder issue…. “SOLUTION: How to Change Folders in Shozk OpenSwim Pro I solved the folder problem by switching to shuffle mode, then changing a couple of songs until I recognize the other folder, and then switch it back to normal mode to select previous and next songs from that other folder. I did several tests and always switches between folders at 2nd and 3rd try. Unfortunately this is the only alternative solution since the OpenSwim Pro does not have a folder-switching function as indicated by customer service and confirmed in the user manual.”

[@PaigeEscapes]

@ I am SO sorry again! Can you actually change folders on the headphones when I’m mo3 mode? Understand you can create playlists on the app but swapping folders/ playlists easy on the headset when in mo3 mode? I just read that it is not possible