Shoot your bow, Like a PRO! All about Nock Fit!

[@psilimit]

Wow, that's a big difference on the grouping!

[@Liz_S702]

Great job Sarah. Thanks for the tip.

[@practical_archery]

Thanks for watching!

[@ChanningDinger126]

Thanks for the tip

[@WayneStevenson-y6e]

I just put a new set on today and my normal nock is too loose. Gonna try a different nock or reserve with power grip tomorrow. Def not gonna leave it goose loose for sho! Great vid! Thanks!

[@practical_archery]

@@WayneStevenson-y6e It's amazing how something so small can make a huge difference in accuracy, but hey, that's archery! If you check the nock manufacturer's website they will often list the recommended finished serving diameter parameters for suggested nock fit. Take your calipers and measure your center serve to compare. For example the nocks I'm using, AAE IP-4 say "*Recommended serving size: .108-.112″ When measured, I end up on the high side of that for reference, but I go by feel like I showed in the video.

[@scottmatich1374]

Good stuff.

[@NO-0M3]

Hell of a group

[@PennNative]

Do you have any trouble with serving separation reserving like that on the bow? I was taught to always take the string off the bow. And reserve under 300# of tension. I have a jig I made up to do this. I have never reserved on the bow. I was always told you can’t get the serving tight enough to not have separation issues. And when you pull it tight like that it also lessens the chance of introducing twist into the string. When I put my string into the jig I use a piece of serving as a flag indicator and I can’t watch it to be sure my serving tool don’t have too much tension. Basically to keep and eye so you not adding or twisting up the string under the serving. Cause then you would have peep rotation issues. I have trouble with factory and even some custom strings with serving separation. Especially under my soft knots…

[@practical_archery]

That's a good question! I haven't had issues with serving separation pretty much since I switched to using Powergrip material for the center serve. It grips on to the string a lot better. Bloodline and other slick string material is becoming increasingly more popular because it stretches less than BCY 452x and some other materials which have been the industry standard for a while. However since the material is slicker, halo spectra center serve etc will just slip around even if you serve under tension on a serving jig. It's also important to note that if you are shooting different brand strings (even factory vs custom) they have be twisted in opposite directions and you need to have the serving done in the opposite direction of the twist of the string so they bite into each other. I do NOT take my string off and serve it on a jig under tension because strings (and cables) have memory (especially shot-in strings). Taking them off the bow and straightening them out under tension, then bending them back through the channels on the cams is a great way to get serving separation in the ends of the string where it makes sharp bends. Some models of bows have some extremely sharp bends and are more prone to this. The same goes to adding a twist to a string. You want to add a full twist not half twist because you don't want to bend the string opposite of the way it's already settled. I've never had issues with serving separation caused by redoing center serve while in the bow, but I keep the string under tension. Either the static tension or the string at rest or a couple turns in the press and I'm pulling up on the string if it's a bow model that needs clearance for the jig due to the cable slide. Sometimes you will get a peep that is pointing a different direction after reserving, but it's not the same as a peep that is rotating during the draw cycle. You just put a twist in the string and straighten it out like you would for a peep that isn't straight after tying it in. I made zero adjustments to the peep or string on the bow in this video, just reserved and walked out and shot what you saw on video.

[@James-y1u8u]

So the old question of which knot goes where. I see your loop knot on top is towards your face and the bottom one faces out. This is how I tied mine for yrs. But the KZbin experts have said this is incorrect. I feel the loop twist easier this way when my hand is at an angle along my face. Do you think it matters either way

[@practical_archery]

I have done testing to see if it makes a difference in either POI or group sizing and the short answer is no, not at all. I shot at 50y, all arrows stacked in the same hole, then removed my dloop and tied a new one on in the opposite direction. All arrows stacked in the same hole at 50y again. The important thing is that your knots face opposite directions, not which knot goes on top.

[@James-y1u8u]

@ cool. I wish all my arrows stacked at 50. The reason I asked is because the KZbin guy that wears shirts 3 sizes too small said it had to be top not facing out. I think my loop stays twisted the right way more so when the knot on top faces me. But either way I probably don’t shoot good enough to notice.

[@practical_archery]

@@James-y1u8u I think we all fall victim to worrying about tiny details instead of the big picture. If dloop direction mattered, then it would be different depending on which direction the strings you are shooting are twisted, and also left and handed people. So maybe only left handed people should shoot a right hand twist and have their dloop tied the opposite direction? Let's not go down that rabbit hole of thought and spend more time working on ourselves. The last short video I posted is a tongue-in-cheek video to say people will shoot better if they practice more and worry about their equipment less. The most important thing is for you to focus on your sight picture I believe. Work to make the bow hold the best and keep your circle in circle of peep and scope housing lined up. Consistency and repeatability will transfer to accuracy 🙂

[@James-y1u8u]

@ shoot more is good advice. Make your bow aim better is even better advice. I watch a bunch of Paige Pierce vids. She explains things real well. I just found your channel. Like the content of the nock fit. I like the guy in Australia too. He always is saying stop messing with your equipment just shoot. Thanks for the response.

[@practical_archery]

@@James-y1u8u thank you for enjoying the channel! I plan on adding a lot more long form videos with tips for different experience levels. I only started making videos a couple months ago. Paige is a great one to follow. She is one of the few women in archery that actually do all their own work on their equipment. I really enjoy talking and shooting with her.

[@hutchieboy242]

How does this apply to three under?

[@practical_archery]

My advice in this video is focusing on compound archery. For recurve and traditional archery, I would reference the manufacturer's recommended serving diameter parament for their nocks and use calipers to measure. Just like too loose a nock fit will cause erratic groups, too tight a nock fit will as well. I don't stand by the thought pattern of an arrow should fall off the string when the string is "plucked" however. The biggest point to consider is that nock fit will not be consistent across bow brands or string brands because a lot of them use different material or strand count. Trial and error is often the best way to figure something out, but knowing what to look for is half the battle.

[@CandyCaneLR]

Eleanor said “look dad! She hit them all the same!!!” Meaning same spot. We really need to stop watching your stuff because it’s going to cost me a fortune for bow crap for her Ha

[@GrowinwithAJ]

what peep is that

[@practical_archery]

@@GrowinwithAJ Hamskea Insight peep. I hunt with an A+ clarifier to clear up my sight picture so I don't have to wear glasses.