Shooting Standards: OTG 3 x 2 Rifle and Pistol Drill

[@Adriano-A7]

The plate carrier this guy in the red shirt is one of the best put together I've ever seen, I'm talking about the entire assembly, load out and organization.Lots of features on a minimalist board.

[@Renrondog]

Excellent video, thank you for making it. Bullets down in mag holder tips in front, pointer finger touches the mags when drawing from holster and inserts into mag well. We naturally know where our pointer finger is so it's easy to find the mag well. IMO

[@mt_shoots8918]

I cant wait to bring this to my guys. This looks like a great drill.

[@dancausey2024]

How bout the slide reciprocation on the first pistol shot

[@birdup1739]

Yeah 4:07. I was waiting for him to mention it.

[@justjames7809]

Yeah that was weird maybe he was riding the slide with to much pressure idk 🤷

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

My thumb was about a quarter inch higher than it should’ve been, little extra pressure on that slide is enough to do it. Those pistols are pretty under sprung.

[@justjames7809]

Thought that. Either great shooting Jared.

[@birdup1739]

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 the reloads were emaculate even with the ar mag not dropping like you wanted you still loaded fast as phuck.

[@dalehenry4694]

Great training 🔫

[@parkeratwood2717]

I’ll work on sending in a video on my next range day.

[@armandochavira87]

Another drill to work on , 🤙🤙🤙!!!!!

[@brettlewishomes]

Great drill guys! Thank you for all your content. And yes, turn to Christ and stay grounded is right!!! Take care.

[@Praetorianarmory]

I thought you were done with "cool beans" 😂

[@kanepreton9588]

9:22 You can add slight retention to esstacs if you slide something down the inside of the pouch butbthe out side of the kydex, it creates more pressure

[@Cg.Training_Addicts]

I dig it

[@dimemmo]

How do you like the llul-21? I have a set but I’d be curious to get your input as I imagine you’ve had much more use with it than I have

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

I like them a lot. No complaints.

[@Milstache_Productions]

You guys needa head out to Wichita where Rainier Firearms Academy is!

[@kamdene29]

this has nothing to do with this video but could you make a video of where you cut on your velocity systems scarab to attach the ferro adapt cummerbund i’ve been looking all over for it and can’t find it

[@ADDAmerican]

Had no clue you guys were in baton rouge, do y’all know any good outdoor ranges nearby? Im tired of training indoors

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

Unfortunately I do not.

[@Kenposhinobi]

If you don’t mind a small drive, MCTA in Kiln Mississippi is a good range. A membership is 160ish every 6 months and you get 24/7 access. Me and my buddies would go out at 2am and shoot under nods and white light. They have 5 25 yard pistol bays, a 50 yard pistol and rifle bay, a 100 yard rifle bay and a 200 yard rifle bay. If you’re not a member, it’s open Friday, Saturday and Sunday and you just can’t draw from holster.

[@ADDAmerican]

@@Kenposhinobi oh wow huge difference though huh

[@ADDAmerican]

@@Kenposhinobi but if youre a member you can draw from holster?

[@Kenposhinobi]

@@ADDAmerican yeah, drawing from holster is fine if you’re a member

[@Wammywammsters2024]

Awesome video! What Glock is the 2nd guy running?

[@HiramProjectProductions]

Glock 17 Gen 5, milled slide for Lead Steel PB3, X300U

[@SouthernStacker]

I'm so glad I found your channel! It's very detailed an informative! However! I don't have a team per say! I'm just 1 man! I'm looking for teqniues that may benefit me as an individual?

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

I would suggest a solo CQB course. We offer those, check out the schedule online

[@WhiskeyOutWest]

Here in Esstac land,it never gets above 90○ on our worst day.

[@tactical_mumin]

can you please make a truthful review with ferror concepts NVG pouch. no one shares anything and the pad seems thin and weak maybe. please make this video i really want one but cant tell anything online

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

It was a niche item for a govt contract. It’s nothing special but gets the job done. Thats the truth.

[@tactical_mumin]

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 thank u man, how would u say the padded is?

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

@@tactical_muminit’s padded. Not much else to say.

[@o0oitzJimmy]

Show us your Swat/SRT qual.

[@BeastJu]

Did y’all lose the clubhouse? Is this where all local classes will be from now on?

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

This is just a local range. Clubhouse is still there.

[@christophnegron2827]

So ....15yds on a 5" circle.?? I have homework to do. Also...props on the L&S LP1 and PB3. I too support the boys. And look forward to seeing them @ ORD this year.

[@dimemmo]

@@christophnegron2827 looked like an LCO on the rifle

[@christophnegron2827]

@@dimemmo it's not it's an Lead and Steel LP1. They've been using them for a bit now.

[@dimemmo]

@@christophnegron2827 I shoulda double checked the video before saying that lol I thought it was an LCO when I first watched, they do look very similar I’m just so used to seeing the two tone LP1

[@tylerreis7627]

Curious why you’re in full kit to train hard skills. Or why the drill incorporates an irrelevant hypothetical in its justification. Or why you think there is literally any value in sliding behind a paper target. Or why you think 3 slow rounds from a rifle at 10 is any sort of meaningful standard. Would love to see yall shoot a uspsa or 2 gun match lol

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

Watch the video and listen to the words that are coming out of my mouth. It’s a simple diagnostic tool for someone to test all the movements, while having a high accuracy standard (half the size of an A zone). You would be surprised how many people have not put this all together in a single drill, or have not incorporated lateral movement with a reload, and so-on. Shooting competitions is great, and I am actively doing that locally, but there’s a lot more than that to train on.

[@tylerreis7627]

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 there is literally nothing this drill “diagnoses” that cannot be diagnosed in dry fire. Contextualized outcome based live fire training is quite worthless when it comes to building hard skills

[@tylerreis7627]

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 the title of the video is literally “shooting standards”, now it’s a diagnostic tool? Lol

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

@@tylerreis7627when you search shooting standards stuff comes up. When you search diagnostic tool nothing like this comes up. There’s an art to getting content out there, which is a separate skill 😊

[@ludybahneman7229]

@@tylerreis7627talk is cheap, ammo is expensive. At least he is demonstrating skill.

[@ghostgk5888]

I jumped into Panama with less stuff on

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

I’m not jumping into Panama so that makes sense

[@Whiskey.Tango.Actual]

No you didn't. Lol. 😂 What was your MOS?

[@TehZoadi]

So you can control the tension of esstac carriers. Its called a hair dryer.

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

I like them and still use them, but they have some downsides that these do not.

[@marioroagna5207]

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[@lukasBe77]

I did it. Can u send me the patch and i proof it later ? Thanks

[@CR12221]

Cool drill, but I don't see the point of disengaging the grip safety. Just get a 2011 or something without it all together.

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

That is a 2011

[@CR12221]

@oriontraininggroupllc2782 I know that's why I said get 1 or something without it all together. I'm almost positive someone is making a grip module for 2011 that gets rid of the grip safety or it's pinned already.

[@tylerreis7627]

Why do you say PCCs, you weren’t mil lol

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

I was taught by guys like Jason who were, their language becomes my language. Does one need to be a veteran to use a universally applicable acronym?

[@tylerreis7627]

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 because it’s not applicable. PCCs and PCIs are not making sure your rifle is loaded

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

@@tylerreis7627we got a whole video on what it is, this is just a reference to the whole concept.

[@Annoyingdog37]

Booo Illinois sucks

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

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[@BBEEAATTNNGGUU]

As far as fun laws? Oh yeah! Outside of Chicago, Illinois is a nice place with great people.

[@Annoyingdog37]

@@BBEEAATTNNGGUU i like the state, but the property taxes and fun laws suck

[@JB4545-v2j]

I cant believe anyone takes shooting instruction from these guys. Low skill shooters marketing them selves as experts.

[@evane2808]

Send in your video!

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

Nice burner account 😂

[@JB4545-v2j]

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782bro your walking around a gun store advertising with NODs on your head, this ain’t a training company, your marketing. And it couldn’t be more obvious when you shoot. What are those .4 splits with a comped staccato?

[@oriontraininggroupllc2782]

@@JB4545-v2j This video was filmed at a store that simply asked us to plug them in exchange for use of the venue. That’s basic business practices, but I know a lot of people have no idea how to run a business. Generally speaking, when shooting on a small circle for a drill focusing on accuracy and economy of motion more than splits, it makes sense to confirm at a higher level than when the target is a (relatively speaking) tall A zone. The a zone is designed for drills like doubles, whereas a bullseye is designed more for slow fire. The target here was specifically picked as a small circle so that the shooter is focusing on more things than their split time lol. Obviously the better one is, even on the small circle targets the split speeds up. Shooting this for a demo and wanting to not fail it, I shot a passing time, but if we use the drill as a diagnostic like the video says, a simple self critique is to go a bit faster next time. To clarify, I take the time to explain this because I know others will read it. You are using a fake account in order to spread negative comments, and I know I’ll never change your mind about this company. Thanks for the free engagement:)

[@JB4545-v2j]

@@oriontraininggroupllc2782so you’re using a drill where you shoot from cover, do reloads, and re holster your hand gun under time to test and assess slow fire accuracy/ marksmenship fundamentals on a bulls eye? Right… that totally makes sense. Can you make some videos on footwork please? Im not spreading negativity, you’re spreading shit training and over selling experience to market .