Shooting the Model 1890 Winchester slide action rifle

[@britishmuzzleloaders]

Full of nostalgia for me... First rifle I ever owned,.. as a kid... a carbine version. You filmed it beautifully.

[@capandball]

Thanks Rob!

[@pecospest]

sixty years ago , i walked with my father into the hardware store and we came out with a brand new 62A, it was shot by him , me and my children, it is part of the family. The way the bolt locks is pure genius. Excellent video, Balasz !

[@Rusty_Shackleford1]

I have a Remington Model 12 (another takedown, slide action.22 rimfire) made in the 1930s, passed down through my family to me. It is a beutiful, accurate rifle and is my favorite rifle to shoot.

[@mrunderhood]

I love the old pumps. I have found that the rifling at the crown usually needs to be dressed up. Recutting the rifling at the crown really tightens the groups up. I've also made speed loaders that work great for packing ammo out to the field.

[@TheGunBandit]

I live in America but this is the best gun Channel I've ever seen you always have interesting rifles or pistols the show

[@SNOUPS4]

This channel, ForgottenWeapons, and InRangeTV, are the only three channels one needs, really: they are perfect and encompass everything fascinating!

[@danthefrst]

Not only that, they are very professionally and beautifully done too!

[@mattm9689]

Forantique firearms this channel and Duelist1954 are my favorites.

[@JohnCBobcat]

I'd personally add C&Rsenal to that, for both their Primer and Anvil series. Bloke on the Range, perhaps, as well.

[@shootmcrunfast]

SNOUPS4, throw in C&Rsenal and you have the best.

[@kidhammer2567]

Thank you for educating us with your informative video. I own an original Win-Mod 1906 takedown rifle, manufactured in 1912. It was originally my maternal grandfather's .22 rifle, now mine. I did lots of hunting small game with it in Montana USA while growing up. Thanks again, sir.

[@montanamountainmen6104]

My father in law has a 1890 belonged to his grandfather, thing is very accurate and still functions today as well as it did when made.

[@joesmoke9624]

Wonderfully presented. I recall around 60 years back firing a gun like this at the fairground, rifle range, and I paid for 2 shots. The first shot knocked the bullseye out, and after I fired the second shot I thought I’d missed the target altogether; until the guy in charge said my second shot had gone though the same hole has the first. Wow! I thought, especially being just a lad back then. I so wish I had a gun like that now. Thanks for the memory 👍

[@scotttilson8876]

I have one of these 1890 models and 22 Long rifle. It was made in 1919. Still in reasonably good shape.

[@ericgabriel4190]

I recently found a an 1890 from 1907. It is also a 22 short. It cycles beautifully, but needs refinishing. I can't wait to get a chance to get it back close to its original glory.

[@vigunfighter]

There is no 'disconnector' on those, so you can hold the trigger back and keep cycling the slide and it will fire every time the bolt goes into battery. Big Fun!

[@therideneverends1697]

@Aniquin no it works

[@deniscleaver7544]

The genius of John Browning never ceases to amaze me. What a beautiful rifle. Thank you.

[@SuperMelllo]

The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago kzbin.infoUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.

[@21DaHoagie12]

My great grandfather owned one of these and passed it down through the family. It was the first gun I ever shot when I was a kid. Brings back memories of a great gun!

[@Bayan1905]

I had a Winchester 1906, the successor to this gun, that was a lot of fun to shoot. Later on I got a Remington 12A pump, but the pump Winchesters were the best of the bunch.

[@USAAmutual45]

I inherited one of these from my Grandfather in 22 WRF, (He always bought the remington ammo, so he called it a 22 Remington special. Good video.

[@rickt1154]

I have a 1906 that I plan to restore. The barrel is shot and needs re-lined. I bought new wood and will have the parts cleaned and blued. This will make an excellent Christmas gift for my grandson.

[@nicholaspietrzak9992]

First rifle I ever fired. My uncle has one and it is one of my favorites.

[@sebathadah1559]

Proud to support you on patreon. Your videos are always the best.

[@capandball]

Many thanks, Sir!

[@3ducs]

They are wonderful rifles, iconic in the US. That peep sight is very nice on it. I have the rifle in .22 short and .22WRF. An interesting contemporary of the 1890 is the Remington Model 12, a more complex piece but very nice. I don't think it was intended as a youth rifle, more a small game rifle to put meat on the table and as a target gun. Thank-you for reviewing this rifle, I know you will enjoy it for many years.

[@avenstad8433]

I was under the impression with these that if you held down the trigger, it would fire as fast as you could work the pump. My friend received a rifle very much like this when his grandfather died and that was the case.

[@capandball]

It is true for the Colt Lightning.

[@jaredgreen5840]

I actually live where the great designer John Moses Browning lived and am very familiar with most of his designs. It's really nice to hear you talk about the history of these guns and the cartridges they were designed to shoot because you always make it interesting. As always, another great video and I'm always looking forward to seeing what you have next 😉😀👍

[@SteveRoutt]

Thank you for such a wonderfully researched and carefully delivered history. Your interest and professionalism are greatly appreciated. Cheers.

[@jjohnston94]

Good tip on using the firing pin as an action release. I just verified that it works on mine.

[@wolfwind9658]

Takedown? Folding sights? That there is an assault type wepon!

[@Dja05]

With a High cap, 20+ .22short (that won't feed) capacity, the unlimate leftie killing machine !

[@マトリックスマトリックス-m7h]

*500000 rounds per minute*

[@glennthomas7435]

If it only had the pistol grip stock version, it would be an excellent assault rifle!

[@TexasTrained]

Nice old gun.Ive always loved this model and most especially with the octagon barrel.

[@drmaudio]

105 years old! I wonder how many kids may have learned on that rifle.

[@57WillysCJ]

I have one in my cabinet. The old "corn shucker" or "gallery gun" was popular and as the the last name refers most shooting galleries which were popular back then used these rifles. That is why many are worn out. The fact that it takes down made it popular with back packers and canoist for a long time.

[@dealspeed6756]

My grandpa passed his down to me and I never thought I would find a video on YT with this rifle

[@TheAwkwardStuffShow]

The Varmint Rifle

[@jameshealy4594]

Thank you so much for the video, this is the first rifle I ever fired and it was so nice to see it covered in detail, especially since the example that was in my family was handed in and destroyed before I could own it legally, following some new laws being instated. Again, many thanks, it was a real treat.

[@jameshealy4594]

Australia

[@necessaryevilzero1885]

@Cw Sayre These are legal to own and use in England.......................................For now.

[@stephenarling1667]

There must be a special section in hell for those who wantonly cause the destruction of fine old tools like these.

[@necessaryevilzero1885]

@@stephenarling1667 I would hope so !

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

My first rifle was a Colt Courier in .22lr. It was a 7 th birthday gift. By the time I was 16, I could split a blade of grass offhand at 40 yards, 9 times out of ten. I miss my teenage eyes lol.

[@hamm6033]

Just checked the channel to see if I missed a post and I had. Great to see you again. Hope the future allows the time for you to post more.

[@christiansanchez1486]

Very impressed with your video quality and information very accurate with your guns and your facts

[@1722blackbart]

It's a great design. I have a Model 62A and it is my favorite 22.

[@SyluxXIV]

This is fantastic. Never seen a weapon like that

[@ej732]

My Winchester 62A is my favorite rifle.

[@behindenemylines3361]

Awesome video! My Dad had a Winchester Model 1906 .22 when I was kid, many-a squirrel fell to that gun! Unfortunately, he sold the gun, wish he had kept it. :(

[@wesleysmith5580]

If you move your hand up and actuate the pump action with your last three fingers and then support the bottom of the barrel with your thumb and first finger when discharging a round your accuracy will increase substantially. Thanks for the video I did enjoy it.

[@tmack11]

What cool little rifle. Can barely tell it's 100+ years old!

[@Doc_Vega]

This is such a fine elegant beautiful rifle. And a nice video of course, instantly subscribed

[@Cherokie89]

That rifle is in incredible condition.

[@tevetanders9729]

What a passion for the old fire armes.

[@reddevilparatrooper]

I loved shooting this as a kid growing up.

[@steelgila]

That action is so cool. So crisp and responsive. I may trade my auto in for one!

[@MasterChief-sl9ro]

Growing up in Texas. These things were all over the place. Just as the Ruger 10/22 is now....As people used them for small game. You can still find them in great condition. I still prefer my two Browning BLR .22 and SA-22 rifles. They are grade II versions. And are tack drivers..

[@boomsticks_and_battlefield]

3:59 Sjögren Inertial shotgun...?

[@sebathadah1559]

calvin langford kinda looks,like a browning

[@SpruceReduce8854]

calvin langford That caught my eye too, I was about to point it out until I saw your comment

[@greentoptrekker]

Thanks for another wonderful presentation.

[@Rancherinaz]

So cool . I have a Browning Trombone . Made by FN in Belgium . Pump .22’s are just such fun to shoot . Thing is in nice shape . A nice piece to be proud to own . 👍👍

[@nickdipaolofan5948]

Trombones are harder to find in my neck of the woods! I have owned several 1890's, but never even seen a Trombone in person.

[@shootmcrunfast]

Excellent video and a lovely little rifle.

[@grommel5693]

I would have liked to see more of the Breechblock mechanism

[@steventhompson9257]

Awesome, looking forward to some new videos

[@bosstube9046]

A friend of mine found one of these stuck behind his dishwasher been there God knows how long

[@glennthomas7435]

Excellent video, thank you

[@stevenivers8560]

Do I understand correctly that the Winchester Model 1890, third version, takedown model, manufactured in 1909, octagonal barrel stamped 22 Short can also fire .22 Long and .22 Long rifle ammunition?

[@strider04]

No, his gun was specifically changed to fire .22long rifle. In an unchanged 22 short gun anything bigger than 22 short won't chamber correctly

[@redmegalord]

I've been shouting you out over on TheGunCollective, hopefully they'll get around to talking about your awesome channel!

[@turbowolf302]

lovely little rifle. I'm jealous.

[@constantinvenitikidi]

Just the best channel!!!!

[@loquat4440]

I have always wanted a winchester pump .22, but just never got around to buying one. I have a neat chinese knock off of the browning designed .22 semiauto. I mainly these days use a Czech 452 bolt gun to kill the local grey squirrels since they rob my fruit and nut trees. I have so many other .22's that I do not shoot, that likely it does not make a good sense to buy another .22. I do have a unique Hungarian made pistol, a fromer stop pistol, but nothing else from that country. When it comes to owning guns the USA is still a great place and there is no registration in my state of Florida.

[@IvorMektin1701]

I have my grandfather's, and I wish ammo was more readily available.

[@3ducs]

.22 short is again plentiful, shop at a real gun shop, not Walmart.

[@IvorMektin1701]

Tim Mullican .22 WRF

[@IvorMektin1701]

Tim Mullican Thanks

[@sergeantbigmac]

WRF is a bitch to find. Ironically it was a lot harder to find pre-internet, now we have options and a way to find it at least. I do wish there was a way to easily convert WRF to LR but there inst short of reaming and relining and changing the carrier and some other parts. More expensive than just dealing with the rarity of WRF.

[@5USgRWFH]

@@IvorMektin1701 my local Sportman's Warehouse is selling 50-round boxes for $10.99. I buy 2 or 3 boxes every time I go in.

[@Bayan1905]

I owned a Winchester 1906 once but I recently found a Winchester 1890 in .22 Shorts which I have a lot of for some of my older and antique .22 rifles. It's not as nice as yours but I am hoping it will make a good shooter, I would love to take it squirrel hunting.

[@davevann2925]

Can you put in a ramp and replace the elevation screw?

[@stephenarling1667]

I learned to shoot with the same model takedown 1890 22WRF, with folding Lyman tang sight. It was a nice gallery gun. Some owners have apparently been brave or foolish enough to have their guns rechambered for 22WMR, and the loading mechanism modified to cycle the longer cartridge, but this seems foolish because of the higher pressures. It would also lower the collector value.

[@bomyers5345]

That is just a beautiful gun did Winchester make any other calibors with the pump like action?

[@joewilson3393]

My father in law left me one of these. It took me a while to figure out what it was, but running there serial number (which matches in both places) it was manufactured in 1900.

[@pmjn0943]

Thank'you, yet another very interesting Historical video.

[@IvorMektin1701]

My girlfriend just said, "Rimfire sounds like a gay problem!" I need ear bleach now.

[@ar6985]

Dump her and buy more guns.

[@FordPrefect23]

Your girlfriend sounds defective, you should find a replacement and/or more guns

[@IvorMektin1701]

FordPrefect23 I have _enough_ guns. And she likes my Winchester 62A & 1906... Gotta find .22WRF for the 1890.

[@IvorMektin1701]

Also, she was an actress, so anything with a remotely gay double meaning gets pointed out.

[@loviedebiasio8864]

THATS FUNNY SHIT

[@alanalan1062]

Nice videos! Really nice videos! Greetings from Brazil!

[@loupanella9632]

I love your channel. I live in the USA and I love old guns. I have been blackpowder fan before shooting modern guns. In the 1980s I got my start when all those wonderful reproductions coming from Europe. Sadly the blackpowder shooting sport had decline due to the high cost reproduction firearms. They were once very affordable and economical to shoot. Sadly after 9/11 the feds had put high regulations on blackpowder. They are no longer available in sporting goods stores. You can buy substitute black powder but it's not the same thing. One of the things I love about your shooting videos is the wonderful range where you go!! Are they up to the public or members only?

[@deandeann1541]

Your state is different than mine, black powder weapons still available at walmart etc, black powder still easily available, cap and ball revolvers are still cheap when you catch a good sale, eg black friday sales. My first cap and ball, a colt 1860 army, cost me $85 30 years ago, my 1851 navy cost me $130 on sale about 10 years ago, my rem 1858 cost me about $220 on sale a couple years ago, still very economical compared with my blackhawk. Especially if you cast your own balls at 2 cents each from ebay lead. Good homemade black powder is only about $5/lb, but it is easiest to buy it mail order 4 or 5 lbs at once to reduce the stiff federal hazard fees, you still get enough to last years for under $100. Its all what you want for your money.

[@loupanella9632]

Dean DeanN I used to love my navy arms catalog and Dixie gun works. Navy arms is gone I think. I am seeing repo like the Brown Bess and civil war long arms going for near and over a $1000.00. Yikes. I lived in PA most of my life. I remembered getting powder for $5.00 pound in 1987 and on. I moved to TX 14 years ago and cannot find any. Looks like I have to order up like you said.

[@jesslnorton83]

My father gave me one of those when I was a boy. It’s still very accurate. I’ve killed many squirrels with it.

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

Balasz, what do you think of the new pump action/slide action .22 rimfire rifle made be the Henry rifle company? Would you buy one?

[@ADRay1999]

All I have to say that in America that rifle is very difficult to find in premier condition because they were utilized so much..... plus it was very popular in shooting galleries..... The Single Action Shooting Society owns and original gallery and with original Winchester pumps

[@rjonzen34]

Better accuracy than the new Ruger RPR! Great vid brother

[@daveybass655]

I find that with this rifle, versus the lever action, that this rifle will give me a shotgun mentality to the shooting technique incorporated , whilst with a lever gun, I will take an extra moment and incorporate a bolt action precision technique with a breathing technique for more accuracy, but at the same time, the pump action shotgun technique is also extremely accurate. Ruminate upon that....

[@Sgtdoc]

Woah! That looks pretty cool.

[@kdurk7546]

How in the world do you get a hold of these guns. By the way this gun is awesome

[@Cherokie89]

Does a gun license in hungary allow you to buy multiple weapons, or do you have to apply for a license for each gun? Do you need a license for black powder weapons? Are you allowed to keep them at home?

[@Platano_macho]

Just bought one for my son who turned 10 yesterday

[@Platano_macho]

Dang lucky my sons is only chamberd in .22 short only

[@skully_8500]

@@Platano_macho did you just reply to your own comment?

[@Platano_macho]

@@skully_8500 yeah covid got me

[@ironnerd8336]

Great video. I have one of these that my grandfather gave me. I have never seen one of these that is realistically sized in .22 short. Did those ever exist? Take care, and happy hunting!

[@JS-ob4oh]

Good video...as usual. What's the longest shot with that rifle you made that hit in or near the center ring?

[@stephenarling1667]

In my teens, I could shoot a walnut off a fencepost at 50 paces with grandfather's 1890. It was chambered 22WRF, a stronger round than 22LR but maybe not as accurate on average.

[@ar6985]

Classic rifle. You'll have fun with that old girl! Great squirrel and varmint rifle too. Thanks for the video's- first rate production as usual.

[@linasmagnum]

What about .22 ExtraLong from 1880 ? They used its 40 gr bullet and .22Long case for .22LR in 1887

[@faramund9865]

Perfect video!

[@CandidZulu]

quality like that would be a "custom rifle" these days, no zamak alloy anywhere.

[@sergeantbigmac]

Well to be fair, quality like this wasnt exactly cheap back then either. Theres a reason most families only owned 1 or 2 guns. Not a whole lot of people with massive gun collections like there is now.

[@stephenarling1667]

No Zamak, no aluminum, no MiM, no polymer, just blued or case hardened steel and American walnut. An accurate replica would likely run well over $1K regardless of where it might be made today. Remember, though, an ounce of gold in those days was about $30. That tells us how severely the Treasury and the Federal Reserve have slowly swindled away the real value of the US dollar.

[@dennisbelleza8682]

Very nice gun

[@tangoalfa1970]

I had one a kid. Many a small game animals bought home with it to.

[@ScrogginHausen]

Pretty much just like my grandfather's 1933 Model 62 that's sitting in my closet. It shoots down and to the left.

[@grantfitz2047]

Are you still filming? I enjoy your channel just hasn't been updated in 2 months

[@capandball]

Yes I do, but recently I am in a large scale research about the Swiss Feldstutzer: kapszli.hu/en/the-model-1851-feldstutzer-and-its-impact-on-rifle-development-part-1/

[@3ducs]

Where have you been? So few videos.

[@silas__3994]

Great video once again!

[@mr.thickey1820]

"Ach du lieber, mein schatz"! Mr. Balasz (pardon my spelling please!). What a wonderful gun. How in the world (or out of it!) do you get these guns? Are they yours, or loaners?? The flattened egg cartons under your leather gun rest was the "class act" of the whole video!!! Did you eat all those eggs at one meal? Hard boiled or scrambled? If I would ever get to visit you, I hope you would take me to a favorite Hungarian restaurant to enjoy some wonderful Hungarian cooking. I still wish you could have been my son-in-law!!!

[@General.Longstreet]

Hi Balaz do you have a wanzl rifle? Always been interested in them. If you do would love to see it.

[@capandball]

No yet. But it's on my bucket list.

[@daveybass655]

Love this gun.

[@joebaker2343]

I own a 1890 in 22 winchester rimfire nice little gun hard to find ammo for tho!

[@scottdickie908]

I just bought 500 rounds from Target Sports USA for my WRF not bad pricing for ammo that's almost obsolete.

[@jerryogstad]

i have one 1890 22 long and cant to ger to load they wountx cone intothe loading help

[@mellowyellow416]

Its exactly what I wanted

[@Glanthor88]

bojler for sale? I can notice by the accent that this guy has one for sale.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

kapszli.hu az oldala

[@jvleasure]

Inherited a 1910 or so Model 90 in .22 long. Not very easy to find .22 long in anything except for the quiet cb ammo. Still fun to shoot, we call it the "hushpuppy." All you really hear is the action and shells tinkling out of it.

[@datapro007]

I have the 1906. It cycles short, long or long rifle.

[@scotttilson8876]

Mine is chambered in 22WRF. It was made in 1919.