Shooting The Rare Pedersen Rifle (The Rifle That Was Almost The M1)

With special guests Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons and Nathanial F. of our own TFB, Alex and Patrick take a look at a rare Pedersen model PB Autoloader. The Pedersen's unique action is quite an oddity within semi-automatic rifle design, but the real question is how does the gun shoot? We do our best with some 80 year old ammunition in tow to find out!
Watch Ian's take on the Pedersen here: www.full30.com/video/c91a71f6...
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[@irgendeintyp3120]

if you want to make your gun video better: put Ian in it

[@tfbtv]

+Julian Bott Truth

[@fidgit007burke7]

Irgend ein Typ and edit out the wind lol

[@patrickklocek3332]

Ian looks naked without a period-piece hat of some sort.

[@wolfenstien13]

Buy a microphone fluffy. It'll help reduce the wind sound.

[@notdjkhaled4885]

White Coyote dead cat.

[@Baka_Mop]

It's like.... a big luger.

[@legendaryprotectronwatcher5708]

the Luger's American cousin

[@sliceofcheese3890]

There is a luger rifle that uses a similar blowback

[@jeromezp]

Baka Mop the luger looks like...a short borchadt c93

[@alexsal2737]

Niles Niles from Fe Fates good job there

[@norfangl3480]

The Selbstlader 1906 is the big luger

[@FloorManiac]

Thumbs up because you got Gun Jesus to be in your video. Ian is the man.

[@barnabiswirley2132]

FloorManiac Gun Jesus hahaha now I'll always see him as that.

[@freidrickmace2366]

FloorManiac nah hikok 45 is the gun jesus

[@fuckinantipope5511]

freidrick mace naw. Hickok45 is our gun grandpa

[@danielaramburo7648]

freidrick mace I find your lack of faith disturbing. Repent before Gun Jesus forsakes you. Joke

[@nexxusnexxus1167]

Ian is the Jamie hyneman of guns

[@BurnTheNuance]

Such a great post! Had me laughing. Forgotten is hands down my favorite gun channel. Ian is highly knowledgeable, never brings up politics or religion and is all around a pleasure to watch. Keep supporting great channels my friend!

[@terriblycharismaticduck2717]

I like him, but he thinks ALL guns are forgotten and nobody knows about them.

[@runlarryrun77]

Ernie Castaneda I gave up with his channel after he I saw him being blunt to the point of rudeness when people were complimenting his knowledge & started using pay per view when he teamed up with another channel. Outstanding weapons knowledge, but no people skills when it comes to his audience.

[@MopSpadowski]

+runlarryrun77 Full30 has all those videos and they're free.

[@Johnnysthunder]

hahaha couldn't have said it better myself

[@TroopperFoFo]

Kind of want to see a Pederson vs Garand vs Johnson rifle video.

[@Nathaniel_F]

TroopperFoFo We had all three guns there, but didn't have time. :(

[@TroopperFoFo]

Tau Well that stinks. Would of been an interesting video.

[@XtremeConditions]

TroopperFoFo Damn, that really needs to happen!

[@dtnetlurker]

With a longer actual simulated field test in real world conditions that included field stripping, cleaning, and reassembly with only issued GI combo tools, you would quickly find out why the M1 was chosen. It is a beautifully simplistic rifle.

[@Viper2132]

@@dtnetlurker the Johnson is actually an even better rifle. The Marines found it to be more accurate and reliable than the Garand during their testing. Had it come around a few years earlier, there's no doubt that it would've won out over the Garand.

[@jeffreydancinger2875]

This rifle really lets you know when it's empty.

[@frugalsoul9984]

Jeffrey Dancinger lol RT. It blocks the sights, you're done. Reload dummy

[@ZGryphon]

That's actually cited as one of the points in its favor in the evaluation reports from 1931. (Amusingly, as Ian alludes to, one of the disadvantages noted in that same report is that the toggle "Has a tendency to strike the hat of the user. Sometimes makes holes in hat.")

[@ThomasHendrickson]

“HEY STOP AIMING DUMBASS; I’M EMPTY”

[@shorpy3407]

"I'm out of targets!" Probably the best possible review a rifle can receive.

[@FreeForAllFreak]

Ian probably knows the most about guns in the entire world! Genius man

[@tfbtv]

Adam Cooper I can tell you that he is not only fiercely intelligent, but a genuinely good person. It was a pleasure to spend time with him. -Alex

[@FreeForAllFreak]

TFB TV Awesome collab between yall!

[@nolanmythbuster]

TFB TV Do you know by any chance if the Forgotten Weapons channel is run by someone else than Ian directly? I've ask questions on their youtube videos a ton of times and have only ever gotten one response back that was quite prejudice, he said something about chlorinating the comment pool, which struck me...odd and didn't seem like the type of guy Ian would be.

[@FreeForAllFreak]

Nolan Mythbustor It was probably his evil identical twin!

[@silverballer1911]

Nolan Mythbustor he has killed before and he will kill again

[@MrTerrymiff]

Ian likes it because he can shoot left handed without getting a face full of hot brass.

[@Sickshooter0]

Ian, was that an en bloc clip in your pants or were just happy to shoot a Pedersen?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Sickshooter0 No comment.

[@FunkySpunky91]

+hoilst LOL

[@declanstewart17yearsago35]

+Brock Obama ian's crotch was banned?? interesting

[@Jose-kb6nc]

So we can't teabag now? k

[@HalJikaKick]

LOL

[@FearlessLeader2001]

7:42 His excitement is absolutely adorable

[@adamhuot5719]

I like how ian pointed it at the camera to upset the safety bois

[@elneutrino90]

The beard of the guy on the right inspired me to shave

[@ChiTownGuerrilla]

I heard a lot of beards have mites.

[@cannonball666]

I'm expecting Ian to whip out a foil at any moment and challenge you guys to a sword fight. He looks like one of the Three Musketeers.

[@TJ4774]

If only I had the money. I've seem one of those in a case but didn't get to play around with it. That Luger style toggle action amazed me. I wish someone would make a reproduction of this with a reasonable price tag.

[@sandbergmachineandtool6226]

yea, me too, but no. the complexity of this action does not relate to cost effectiveness. The only way they would ever be more affordable is mass production, and there's just no demand for that.

[@EmpressTiffanyOfBrittany]

Not to mention the action is so slow it would make for the slowest automatic in the world.

[@dtnetlurker]

Never ever gonna happen. Mass production of this action is so complicated and needs so much fitting that that's why the only company to make a reproduction of the German Luger P08 went out of business. It is also the main reason why (in addition to slam fires, failure to feed and failure of the breech toggle link to close) that the Pederson lost the contract. It was made up of 99 parts that had to have very tight and perfect tolerances to function, while the Garand did not need quite as tight a tolerances for it's action to function perfectly. The Garand only had 60 parts and was later refined down to 55. Less production time and cost by far. Also the Garand was very easy to quickly field strip and clean or repair out in the field, while the Pederson was a complicated mess and really couldn't be fully stripped out in the field. A bore brush cleaning was about all a soldier could do out on the battle zone. All this was tested and considered in the trials and the right choice was made.

[@ShawarmaFarmer]

Ian is one of my favorite KZbin personalities, and the Pedersen is just cool. Another gun I don't see shot often that you guys may have access to are the Fusil Mle or Berthier series of rifles that accompanied the Lebel in the First World War. It be cool to see a video of that or just a general impression on WW1 service rifles and pistols since you guys did the Lee Enfield video.

[@QUIROPTEROHOLLOW]

so that's like an overgrown P08

[@vriesvak9094]

Exactly what I thought xD

[@unoriginalname9556]

you also have a luger selbstlader witch is basicly the same but it's made by the germans

[@skylerslack5677]

unoriginal name that's not real. it's just a game man. bf1 is NOT historically accurate

[@fuckinantipope5511]

Skyler Slack the Selbstlader 1906 really existed. Every Bf1 gun existed

[@QUIROPTEROHOLLOW]

Skyler Slack No, Bf would not add unexisting things. That's a Luger Selbtslader 1906, several where made it just didn't enter mass production. please check your sources befor trying to slam someone bro

[@tfbtv]

In case you missed it: TFBTV on the rare Pedersen rifle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5rSo5yoiZV2lbs

[@tomthebomb9474]

TFB TV gay

[@masonsmith7018]

Ian! It's always good to see my favorite channels working together!

[@barnabiswirley2132]

Ian is the go too guy if you want information on lesser known or old weapons.

[@MoreSoNowThanEver]

Why do I keep imagining the ejector saying "Get that shit outta here!" every time it throws a shell.

[@dandannoodles7070]

Is it ever a problem with toggle lock weapons, where the mechanism breaks the sight picture between shots, or does it return to battery before you even notice it?

[@tfbtv]

+Daniel Messman It happens faster than the human eye can process that anything has happened.

[@dache.henrylee]

why every gun designer is call John...

[@nono-xw6qd]

John garand, John pedersen, John browning, geeze you're right.

[@Jose-kb6nc]

JOHN IS THE GOD OF GUNS.

[@MKRocker2012]

John Stoner, John Heckler, John Koch, John Mannlicher

[@Jose-kb6nc]

What if we're living in a alternate future, every gun designer is named John.

[@Armadurapersonal]

John Kalashnikov, John Simonov, John Tokarev, John Fedorov

[@taofledermaus]

I just watched on of those old Art Alphin videos where he discussed a little about this rifle and also Thompson's semi-auto design. Very cool seeing you shoot this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6OqYoRonbxlgqs

[@yakuzafnfal]

***** holy moly its the one and only talfloogermiester.

[@tfbtv]

FINALLY It is here: Shooting The Rare Pedersen Rifle (The Rifle That Was Almost The M1) kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5rSo5yoiZV2lbs

[@BrookDickerson]

I have that shirt...

[@wollinger]

TFB TV Can I have one?

[@LibertyNotLicense]

TFB TV Very cool. And as usual, excellent, Ian. Subbed and looking for ward to watching the rest of your content.

[@micnor14]

+TFB TV You guys need to put something over the mic next time to stop the wind blowing across it.

[@JoeSchmoeLivesHere]

+TFB TV +TFB TV Nice look at the old Pedersen. A bit difficult to imagine it giving the Garand much of a run though just with the loading issues you guys demonstrated. Well done!

[@hoodedman07]

I like that the shells go flying forward

[@bassist21685]

John Pedersen is my great grandfather! Thank you so much for making and sharing this! From my family to yours, thank you. (For anyone curious, Pedersen

[@karlgilbert8255]

love when you guys team up with Ian, gives even more diverse perspective to the conversation. great vid!

[@dchavez1528]

"I'm out of target's" Love it.

[@adammcdonald7268]

Good to see you guys making videos together with Forgotten Weapons and TFB TV, should do more!

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

It was nice to see Ian doing more than just showing off a gun for once, actually shooting.

[@heathcliffe8446]

TFB and Forgotten Weapons are two of my absolute favs. Excellent vid. as always. Thanks guys.

[@ericswain70]

you know you're going somewhere when you have Ian as a guest on the show.

[@franciscohernandez1759]

I've been waiting for someone to actually shoot it! It's awesome! I wouldn't go to war with it but is super cool to see it actually shoot!

[@jmatt781]

YEAH!!! I love all of your channels! Right on, LOVED this!!! Please do more collaborations in the future!!!!!

[@tonykovatto4425]

Glad to see two of my favorite channels collaborating. Hope to see more in the future.

[@aleramone23]

I really liked the video. i think you should make some other videos with Ian. im a big fan of his channel and he seems to be a really cool guy.

[@djolley61]

The .276 is an interesting caliber. A little more toward the medium caliber rifles.

[@caffeinatedinsanity2324]

Like intermediate calibers? John Pedersen was ahead of its time, because we all know that today, standard infantry weapons use intermediate calibers for the most part. Could it have saved years of development and research if it ever was adopted? I'm thinking the same of the british EM-2, chambered in .280, designed in early 50s

[@humansvd3269]

@@caffeinatedinsanity2324 it's more or less the same. And logistics of the 30 06 pushed the round away.

[@slaughterhound8793]

This video did a great job capturing how much everyone enjoyed shooting that rifle. You can see from the expressions on everyone's faces that a great time was had by all.

[@eltadashi1]

Reminds me a bit of the Luger Selbstlader Modell 06 from 1906.

[@Huckleberry68]

Am I the only one that laughed when they didn’t introduce the guy in the red shirt XD

[@johnharvey5412]

saw Ian in the thumbnail, clicked, wasn't disappointed

[@charliedontsurf4543]

Same here

[@kinguin7]

The way it ejects the clip when it's empty is definitely one of the more entertaining aspects of this rifle.

[@lazerlake]

I love these guys, seem like super down to earth genuinely happy dudes out to have fun and maybe teach you something in the process!

[@Hibernicus1968]

I'm surprised, that I didn't hear anyone mention what was probably one of the biggest concerns about this rifle as it went through the testing process: the need for cartridge lubrication. Being basically a delayed blowback, it suffered from the same problem that other guns using that system in conjunction with powerful cartridges did: violent extraction that could tear the heads off the cases, as the extractor attempted to pull the case out of a chamber when the pressure was still quite high. This wasn't really solved until late in WWII when the Germans learned that fluting the chamber took care of this issue without the need to lubricate the cartridge and ease extraction. Before that guns using delayed blowback and rifle-power cartridges had to lubricate the cartridges. Some, like a number of Japanese machine guns, as well as the Italian Breda 30 used a cartridge oiler built into the gun. Pedersen's solution was to use ammo coated with a dry wax. But cartridge lubrication is far from desirable, as the lube quite often picks up grit and dirt and loads it into the chamber with the round, with attendant effects on reliability and wear. Also there were concerns with the wax liquifying in hot climates and making this problem worse, or even running off the cartridges altogether in storage and leaving them dry when needed. What really killed the Pedersen's chances at adoption by the US army was MacArthur nixing the switch to the .276 cartridge, for economic reasons, and Garand, unlike Pedersen, having already worked up prototypes in .30-06. But the fact that Pedersen's gun could not be made to work reliably without cartridge lubrication was also a factor that probably played some part as well.

[@BrianFulmer]

Darren O'Connor Well stated and right on the money. A hack job requiring goofy ammunition to function was NOT a viable choice. Pretty is not the same as functional. Great job on the video segment, I subscribed based on this episode.

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

The Pedersen cartridge had absolutely no issues with picking up dirt, since it was a dry wax. Neither did it have a problem with warm climates, since e.g. microcrystalline wax can have a melting point of 90°C. Cartridge dry lubrication still deserves investigation today.

[@otisnelson3860]

"Need👏more👏crossovers!"

[@Reckec]

Excellent collaboration with guys I watch on their own sites! I'd like to see more of this type coverage.

[@reddevilparatrooper]

Fantastic guys!Nice to see an updated version of a Pedersen rifle being shot other than the pre WWII noir films.You guys demonstrated the loading and firing procedures very well.Glad you have Ian there because he has his shit together.Keep it up will be looking more to your videos.

[@elyeli6250]

Why do i wanna see one of these in automatic?

[@787awesome]

the action is so slow i cant imagine how it would work

[@t.k.326]

Probably as slow as the chauchat

[@zakharlock2162]

Yeesssssss

[@alexanderredneckthe3rd2]

" the m1 is more American" was the garand not invented by a Canadian ?

[@danielaramburo7648]

We Americans adopted him, so he’s American.

[@mattcullen6109]

@@danielaramburo7648 like when we Aussies adopt New Zealanders

[@RageUnchained]

@@mattcullen6109 precisely

[@mattcullen6109]

@@RageUnchained kiwi??have my neighbourhood are kiwis or Samoan.

[@RageUnchained]

@@mattcullen6109 nah, I'm a yank. I just have a multitude of friends from various nations, one of which was from dubbo. His best mate was a kiwi who had moved to Aus for work ended up marrying his sister

[@mikepipher3347]

Picture quality was amazing on this one guys. Well done.

[@MatSpeedle]

That's a seriously cool rifle, fantastically inovative for it's time! Thanks for sharing guys

[@celestialvoyager82]

The guy on the far right looks like Jon Snow ate Samuel Tarly

[@calvincazares]

I'm glad that we went with the M1 garand

[@Godzilla691138MW3]

Me too, although I must admit that this rifle seems fun as well.

[@aleramone23]

Two of my favourite gun youtubers together! so glad to see this video.

[@HonksterTheGoose]

Finally at last a video of the Penderson shooting! You folks are awesome!

[@Hurricane2k8]

Interesting rifle. On a side note, you guys might want to buy some basic clip-on microphones for future videos, with all that wind at your range it's sometimes kinda hard to hear you.

[@matthewmillar3804]

Nice video, but who's gun is it? where did you get it from?

[@azvoltman7335]

Man oh man, thanks for the awesome look at this historic rifle, i felt i was right there with you guys fumbling with loading the ammo and shooting!

[@PieterBreda]

Ian is a great guy. He explains everything so that it is easily understandable.

[@FIRSTtimeGAMER22]

forgetti weapi, moms spaggeti

[@mihaeltomasovic]

it just appears that this weapon might have been a bit less rugged than the Garand... does anyone agree? or what do you fellas feel might be the downside of this rifle compared to the Garand?

[@anthonymenjivar1326]

I feel like with the Luger style mechanism it would have failed with the marines

[@brianmoro6754]

In the video it seems like it jammed every couple of rounds, but that may be because of lack of maintenance or cleaning, maybe because it is old. It could also be the fact that an M1 Garand may have a more simple mechanism.

[@Franky46Boy]

Thanks guys, very interesting and very entertaining!

[@nicklaustietje2749]

A crossover episode with two of my faves! How have I not seen this until now. Alex if you read this. Please come back to TFB even if it’s just for one episode a year. Pleeeeaasssee!

[@derekneumann]

Patrick is twitchy AF in this vid....dude are you in withdrawl??!! :)

[@tfbtv]

I was very tired that day. Lots and lots of coffee. - Patrick

[@aharr3437]

Trust me, that man is nowhere near going through withdrawal. He just moves around a lot.

[@DeadlyBreath9790]

Lmaoooo

[@KingKiavash]

I dunno exactly what it is but something about the way Nathanial fundles with firearms is very irritating.

[@tfbtv]

+KingKiavash He was trying to summon the ghost of John Pedersen. Like a normal person might do with a genie and a mysterious looking oil lamp.

[@mcinteer19]

VERY irritating! He seems very uncomfortable and doesn't seem to know his way around a weapon. Maybe that's why he's a writer.

[@laytonaschauer3675]

I love seeing my favorite channels together!

[@snakeub9]

Thank you so much guys, phenomenal video!!

[@avnrulz]

2:38 I can see why it 'wasn't' the M-1.

[@MrHouse-fo1od]

rnd problem

[@nobodyspecial313]

You guys need a better microphone. Every time the wind blows, whatever you are running automatically attenuates the audio so don't here the wind noise, or anything else for that matter. Subtitles are fine, but I'd love to no use them.

[@Adamk24]

+Sir Mutton Chops They need to put a wind blimp over the mic to protect it from the wind, like this one: www.amazon.com/Rode-Microphone-Windshield-Suspension-System/dp/B001IFZEV6

[@ren52]

Great video guys! Great channels too. The add for the paracord rape whistle anklet was funny as hell too. Tactifruity!

[@PrintWizard89]

Awesome video! Love seeing Ian on the channel.

[@BelialsGenuflect]

somebody tell the wind it wasn't invited.

[@ramboxlegacy14]

Does it take Glock mags?

[@nono-xw6qd]

Hi-point brand 30 cal glockazine clips.

[@jimbasler9294]

Great collaboration,& a great video on the Pederson rifle.......

[@robdiam6600]

OMG yes! I'm a big forgotten weapons fan and realy happy that there's this video!

[@adrianlarkins7259]

Great gun but as a main infantry rifle, I would be wary of the toggle system. It is prone to jamming in the mud and grime of battle.

[@tfbtv]

Adrian Larkins So is the Garand: www.full30.com/video/9eef6b3a4eb6c8846a4c8dc4b8968bc4

[@ShaDOWDoG667]

+TFB TV Well it's not a Garand.

[@adrianlarkins7259]

TFB TV With exception of the AK47,any rifle will jam with THAT amount of mud. I still say the toggle system is more vulnerable than others.

[@gasmaskguys4965]

+TFB TV I would take this rifle if I was offered it, but I'm still considering harshly between this and the Earlier USMC issue Springfield bolt action! But I do like it's accuracy and speed of firing!

[@derekbrogan4241]

Adrian Larkins look up inrangetv, they have mud test of the luger, it does perfectly

[@strongside4565]

That is one of the goofiest rifle actions I have ever seen.

[@LiquidRelief]

+Randy ‘Macho Man’ Savage compared too the garand this is total shit.

[@strongside4565]

LiquidRelief Yeah I really wasn't comparing it to anything and I wasn't saying it was a decent weapon so I don't exactly see where you are going here.

[@LiquidRelief]

I go where I go. And I went where I went.

[@yalejohnson4687]

+LiquidRelief How do you reckon it's "total shit?"

[@havocdaemon]

That is a crazy action. I love crazy mechanisms! Thanks for sharing this.

[@allegedkurd]

Man that thing has a good deal of punch in the sound of the shot. Love it!

[@Juup2003]

It ejects forward it looks so weird

[@PotHat]

Poor red shirt guy

[@housepelagium5305]

TopHat yeah I noticed he kinda got stiffed in the intro... idk why I notice stuff like that but it's always the cringiest stuff

[@martinlag3234]

I really like that the four of you gave your own input and thougts about the rifle. More vids like this please 😃👍

[@ZGryphon]

If this rifle had been adopted and mass-produced, the motion Ian makes at 7:09 would be universally known as the Pedersen slap, and there would be raging arguments on 21st-century gun discussion boards about whether you're supposed to do it.

[@DrunkNotIAm]

So, why did it lose out to the m1?

[@tfbtv]

+Drunk Not I Am Basically, Pedersen built his rifle around his cartridge (the .276 Pedersen round) and so did Garand. However, Garand built a rifle in .30-06 as well. At some point, the US decided it would be foolish to adopt a new round what with all the ammo leftover from WWI, and since Garand had a rifle already in .30-06 it gave him a leg up. The Garand also does not require waxed ammunition.

[@DrunkNotIAm]

+TFB TV interesting, thanks for the reply.

[@podersen]

+TFB TV Can confirm ;)

[@CMURPHPHOTOG]

+TFB TV My understanding from information at the Springfield Armory Museum National Historic Site is the Pedersen was rejected due to jamming which was solved by waxed cartridges. The U.S. Army in trials determined waxed cartridges unacceptable under battle conditions. Also water from rain or dirt /mud could be propelled into the shooters face by the toggle . General McArthur made the decision to use the 30 06 round due to the amount of surplus ammo. I may be wrong ( I live in Springfield but haven't been to the Armory in a few years) but I believe the decision had already been made to go into production of the M1 when the order to change to the 06 came through. I do know the records at the Armory say waxed cartridges were the reason to reject the Pedersen. Also the M1s creators name is pronounced Ga rand like rand in Rand Paul. At least that's how his name has always been pronounced here in Springfield MA., just sayin.

[@gr_egg]

it didn't ping

[@hippyhappyhippo]

The sound is awful in this video, it's all over the place. I can tell it's really windy there but you need to invest in some better sound recording equipment.

[@LouisianaAstroRambler]

The action on this rifle Is too freaking cool lol. I like how It lifts up, then folds when It cycles. I'v never seen that before. I just found out about this rifle while looking up some pictures of the M1. So I just had to search for It on youtube. Thanks for the video..

[@Salty5ailor]

Dude, you guys are having so much fun!

[@monotok2011]

What about the M1941 Johnson rifle...

[@tfbtv]

We have a video on it, though they arent especially rare.

[@monotok2011]

Nice...

[@ashtonmeans7222]

Selbstader 1906

[@zach3955]

The lonely hairline Jeff lol

[@rosaria8384]

Both look mechanically similar, and the 1906 was based on the Luger pistol.

[@kevinmorley8119]

Awesome video guys, very cool to see the Pederson in action, and the 4 of you combined made a great presentation. Also, whatever camera you used that was shooting the 1080P60fps, keep using it, best quality vid yet, and the slow motion camera was the cherry on top. My only suggestion is to work on your sound recording when outdoors, which can be tricky due to wind, but it is something to think about.

[@ivankovchannel0172]

Wow, TFB crews and Ian Forgotten Weapon are join together and shooting rare piece of gun. Nice !

[@hungbulldaddy]

I only here because I saw Ian.

[@zimloki9801]

The Pedersen Rifle is basically a Springfield M1903 Rifle converted to fire semi-automatically.

[@tfbtv]

+Zim Loki you might be thinking of the pedersen device

[@zimloki9801]

+TFB TV I know, but the Pedersen Rifle and the Springfield Rifle do look similar. Don't you agree?

[@tfbtv]

Zim Loki I can't say that I do.

[@MrBioniclefan1]

+TFB TV Yes he was thinking of that device in fact you could say he was thinking of the M-1903 MKI rifle. Because that device fits into that one rifle.

[@claus2427]

I was basically stunned the first time I saw one of these guns and had the opportunity to handle it, all the machining and amount of precision that went into making one of these great rifles They knew how to make firearms back then and they did it well.

[@josephsaliba79]

Ian from forgotten weapons is a real gun Guru I enjoy listening to his inputs

[@samh1022]

this one looks nicer than the m1.

[@TheGhettoSpaghetti]

Sam H not evennn

[@787awesome]

carbine, yes, garand eeeeehhhhhh

[@klover224]

Sam H garand looks much better, fact. carbine even looks much better, imo.

[@samh1022]

Opinions aren't facts, it's just my personal preference. I'm referring to the aesthetic look of the gun not it's performance.

[@klover224]

Sam H oh I know but it's not my opinion that the garand is better looking that's a fact it's my opinion the carbine looks better

[@chikitabowow]

This really show how superior 60fps is, you can see the workings of the rifle in an entirely different way.

[@brettlandry8466]

Whatever you did with the Camera this episode...repeat it!!!! The quality was awesome guys!!!

[@Seekles]

Ian, please tell me you have more slow-mo footage of this beauty coming. Great videos, I was dreaming about something like this since your review on Forgotten Weapons. Edit: I just saw that there IS (on the FW website)...silly me.