Shootout! JVC DLA-NZ7/ RS2100 vs SONY VPL-XW5000ES. MWAVE 2022

[@user-zq7qh5vt9f]

I have a room with controlled lighting and a screen size of 130 inch. I am looking at JVC NP5, Sony 5000ES and Epson LS12000. Which one would you recommend for a budget not more than $7,000? Thanks.

[@commanderrussels2612]

This wasn't a fair comparison. The 6000 from Sony is the one that is priced like a NZ7. The 5000 is nearly half the price of a NZ7.

[@wooowoo6291]

Agree. It should be NZ5.

[@larsv6144]

@@wooowoo6291 NP5

[@bryanp4827]

Agree with you all! 👍👍

[@stevewright1539]

But at less than half the price the 5000 is pretty damn good!

[@commanderrussels2612]

@@stevewright1539 Agreed, I'd recommend a JVC NP5 over the Sony 5000. Unless I was a VERY heavy user, the laser isn't worth the cost to me for NZ7 versus NP5. NP5 is a lamp, but is around the same money as the 5000 only better tone mapping.

[@Chuck-RETROGAMECAVE]

I agree with @Commander Russels . The NZ7 should have been compared to the XW6000 which is much closer in price and Light output. This felt a bit unfair since the selected XW5000 is nearly half the price of the NZ7. I understand getting a hold of a 6000 at the time of this shootout might not have been possible. I hope Dream Media does another shootout using a fair compare with the 6000 and NZ7.

[@Espiritiv]

Sony XW5000 is more comparison to Epson LS12000

[@scottwallace1]

A 6000 has 500 more lumens and a much better lens than the 5000. It’s also only $1,000 difference in price compared to an NZ7.

[@bryanp4827]

@@Espiritiv Nope, the 12000 is still a pixel shifter...

[@Topper_Harley68]

The sony looses to much details, even if it cost half it is still very bad compared to the jvc.

[@GalvatronTypeR]

I know it’s difficult to tell from a KZbin video but the JVC was brighter but it had elevated blacks, clipped whites, crushed shadow detail, and blown out ineffectual tone mapping (this was very obvious during the wand duel). The Sony was not as bright but it had its black, shadows, and colors more under control than the JVC. I never thought I’d see a cheaper Sony have better blacks, colors, and shadows than a very expensive JVC. The Sony is thousands less and I didn’t see onscreen the JVC justify its price premium.

[@Dreamediaav]

We do the best we can to show you what it was like at the shows but you have to go in person next year to get the full experience. MWAVE 2023 is going to be even better! All these models we used are amazing units and you really can’t go wrong but everyone was drooling over the JVCs. Thanks for watching! 😁

[@FrankieKennethL]

The black crush is not what was seen in person, What you see is a result of the limitations if the recording equipment. But if you listen to their narration, They did however comment that there was peak HL and color clipping. Something that they didnt optimize for. They only calibrated for color accuracy not for ‘environment (room) blacks and HLs’

[@davo01BKK]

Do you think the black floor on the sony would actually be as low as the Jvc? I have the Nx7 and the black floor is not good at all. On pure black scenes there is significant light leakage. I'm hoping there's been some improvement in that dept

[@FrankieKennethL]

@@davo01BKK the overwhelming opinion of the participants was that the JVCs had the inkiest blacks of all the projectors. They were however mostly NZ series. But the NX5 they used still beat the LS12000 in black levels also

[@davo01BKK]

@@FrankieKennethL So to confirm the black floor was superior on the JVCN7? By that I mean the minimum amount of light emitted on pure black? That's specifically what I'm interested in

[@SuperBloodyskull]

It's not a fair comparison because the lumens on each screen wasn't matched, if they had matched the lumens then you could properly see if the differences seen were projector and not the extra lumens.

[@Losttouchjs]

Trust no one that smiles and talks at the same time!

[@bryanp4827]

HAHAHA, TOO TRUE! Politicians do it all the time!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Chuck-RETROGAMECAVE]

I would love to see shootout 5000 vs 6000. A much more meaningful shootout for me and many. For me the NZ7 won't be a good fit due to screen size and back wall limitations. The Sony's can produce a larger image than the JVC with the same throw distance so I am going with either 5000 or 6000 but have not yet decided if the 6000's price bump matches its added benefits for my needs.

[@MrILStatek]

What size screen do you have?

[@scotttild]

The Sony does not need as much room as the JVC. It also makes less noise. I would take a look at the Epson LS1200 if you don’t mind a non native projector. It actually a decent option and is almost 1,000 cheaper.

[@matta9316]

Appreciate these - it's tough because you have good relationships with both providers, but like how you do you best to compare the two honestly!

[@jdgamma]

I would like to know the model and brand of the speakers on the wall, the look powerful.

[@badgastein2]

We do not have the Sony 6000 in other territories, just the 5000 and 7000

[@scotttild]

Sony does not make as much noise as the JVC is smaller and has better blacks. It less bright which I actually prefer. You can tell they are far superior to the non native projectors. The Sony is also less expensive.

[@Dreamediaav]

There is a projector for everyone! These shootouts are using top brands and models for 2022. You really can’t go wrong with any of them. Thanks for watching Scott! 😁

[@larsv6144]

I have seen the Sony XW5000 vs Epson LS1200 vs JVC NP5 and JVC NZ8 (NZ8 blows all the others out of the water, no doubt), but the NP5 has better black levels, better HDR, more natural colors than the XW5000. The Sony has more punchy colors and is a bit sharper (processing, not lens). It is a matter of preference. I have chosen for the JVC NP5, because of the above, the Sony was a bit too "cartoonish" for me. But both are excellent in their own way. Do go and see, don't just buy blind. The Epson's black levels are worse than Sony and JVC, so a no no for me. All projectors were calibrated.

[@MrILStatek]

Scott you sound like a Sony fan boy. Js

[@hassan4080]

"It less bright which I actually prefer. " Tell me you're a Pony without telling me you're a Pony.

[@scotttild]

@@MrILStatek No I am actually not. I don’t really like Sony products in general. I don’t like their operating system and don’t like that sometimes they don’t seem to play nice with other products. I do like the Sony projectors over the JVC. I have seen them side by side. Everyone has an opinion, what you can’t dispute is that Sony is smaller in size and makes less noise. The noise has been tested a number of times by lots of different reviewers and Sony always makes less noise. With all that said between the JVC and Sony its very close. I would actually be fine with either if I end up with one. The JvC is brighter but I think the Sony has better black levels which has been a theme with most of their products. On the other hand Sony has had issues with their panels in the past. I have also looked at the non native LS 1200 which is cheaper then both but holds up with either. The issue I have with the LS1200 is the blacks get washed out and the picture overall is not as sharp as either the Sony or JVC but that’s really comparing Apples and Oranges between the three. Finally the reason I like better blacks over brightness is simply the type of movies I watch which are darker in general and have more black levels to them over colors so I prefer better black levels over a brighter projector.

[@pf5658]

Only thing I really saw was one being brighter than the other and most people will probably go for the brighter unit. JMO!

[@Dreamediaav]

It’s hard to tell over KZbin but we do our best! The peoples choice was definitely the JVCs. Thanks for watching PF! 😁

[@davo01BKK]

So if you have a full blackout theater the Sony 5000 should be suitable enough? Black floor is most important to me. Extreme brights just hurt my eyes anyway

[@FrankieKennethL]

Sony does not have superior black floor to the JVC series. The Sony is not s bright nor gets as detailed in the darks. The extreme bright HL loss seen I. The comparisons could be tempered with some tweaking. From my understanding, Sony Reps prepared all of the Sony’s for the comparisons….JVCs didn’t get that level of preparation. Other than color calibration, they weren’t setup for their ‘best’ performance. I think I heard Michael say they wanted more of a casual user experience comparison which is how most users will do.

[@jeremylupke7443]

How does the jvc dla-nz9 compare to the rs 4500?

[@ronstertv4336]

CRAZY STUFF HERE YOUTHMAN AND DREAMEDIA AND Ryan Charpentier TOGETHER AT MWAVE HOLYCOW AM I DREAMING THE GODS OF Audio And Video

[@gregwillis4001]

I would love to see a comparison between the Sony 5000es and the 6000es

[@Chuck-RETROGAMECAVE]

Yes! I would love to see that as well. 5000 vs 6000. A much more meaningful shootout.

[@Manikanta-pl7dd]

Its time to best projectors showing a better viewed... Its pretty

[@Dreamediaav]

All the units at this event are industry leading! It was a special experience and we are happy to be able to share with you guys. Thanks for watching! 😁

[@annonym8990]

Which Harry Potter Scene is that?

[@bluemarble4051]

Goblet of fire tournament scene.

[@alameri40]

What is aspect ratio

[@shadowfallenable]

which one support 4K120p, 3D, and its Native4K?

[@larsv6144]

JVC NZ7. Sony lacks 3D and 120p at 4K.

[@mrjazzycharon2]

I don't understand the benefit of 4096-4K over 3840-UHD. There's just no content with 4096 pixels width, which means upscaling has to be done all the time to fill the pixels. And with very common 16:9-content you lose lumens as the outer pixels of the 17:9-panels stay black.

[@mrjazzycharon2]

The Sony does motion smoothing to 4K120p, but just doesn't accept 4K120p signals. 120Hz-gaming with a projector really is a niche thing as shutter-based 3D is nowadays.

[@sage11x]

Old comparison is also a useless comparison. The 5000ES is not a competitor for the NZ7. It’s nearly half the price. JVC has literally nothing at that price (besides an odd single chip DLP model at $3500).

[@percybedford6266]

I think the 5000es will do better with the right calibration.

[@Dreamediaav]

The Sony reps where at the event and they tried to make it as fair as possible but the Sony 5000es is a great unit for the money! We have more videos coming out and will be showing the 5000es against the epson ls12000. It should be interesting! Thanks for watching Percy! 😁

[@percybedford6266]

@@Dreamediaav thanks Zack. Will you be selling the Sony?

[@afraga23]

@@Dreamediaav That will be an awesome comparison as both units are at a much closer price point. Looking forward to that video. Thanks for the great content as always!

[@Strofary]

Need calibrated by X-Rite and all bi good

[@KSULynch]

How do these compare to the Epson LS12000

[@scotttild]

There is another video with the Epson LS12000. That is not really in the same category its a pixel shifting 4k where as the Sony and JVC are native projectors.

[@bryanp4827]

They're native 4k, the Epson is still a pixel shifter, it will NEVER compare...

[@Dreamediaav]

Stay tuned to our channel. We have that video coming shortly! Scott and Bryan are right though. They really aren’t on the same level but the shootout will be interesting. Thanks for watching! 😁

[@bryanp4827]

@@Dreamediaav Cheers Zack! 👍

[@KSULynch]

@@Dreamediaav Thanks. Looking forward to how the pixel shift compares to true 4K.

[@Tonyfix]

Why stop the fomo is even there?

[@bryanp4827]

Yeah, his comparison is BS also

[@PhotoJohn80]

Doesn’t seem like a good comparison. These two projectors are nowhere near each other in price. I’d rather see the Sony against the NP5

[@Topper_Harley68]

It's laser vs laser, NP5 is bulb.

[@larsv6144]

The JVC NZ7 is 5000 euros more expensive than the Sony XW5000. So almost double in price. Europe doesn’t get the Sony XW6000. That’s the direct match of the NZ7

[@Dreamediaav]

Absolutely! We have more shootouts coming soon to the channel. Stay tuned and thanks for watching Lars! 😁

[@lkg-ukg]

Buy low price AVR & Projector

[@did3d523]

not same price stupid comparaison.. no setting .. sony is low setting at stock setting... fake

[@nagumaninagu9368]

Hi sir

[@Dreamediaav]

Hello! 😁

[@Iknowurwhoami]

Couldn’t tell what image was actually better and source material was all CGI so very poor image choice for comparison. But these are two different animals, apples and oranges. 120hz vs 60hz at 4K. No HDR10+ on Sony or 8k pixel shift, less lumens and no 3D. All comments on image seemed subjective too as we don’t know what was intended by movie producers. And testing room was not light controlled. Overall not a good, controlled comparison, nothing to learn here 👎🏼

[@joshvlog66]

Your realy awsome

[@Dreamediaav]

Thanks for your support Joshva! 😁

[@markcary8165]

Virtuially impossible to actually tell WHAT anyone thought of it! Are we supposed to be able to judge for ourselves from the You Tube video?? Have no more idea of wht the conclusions were than before I started watching it!

[@rafars2246]

The winner is the $300 tv from Walmart. Avoid projectors...

[@ptroy72blue]

I'm not smashing anything

[@bryanp4827]

NEVER SEEN SO MUCH BS IN ALL MY LIFE! You're comparing Sony's ENTRY level projector at about $5k, against something high end from JVC worth $20k plus! Furthermore, you are also comparing something that has an all glass lens, WITH dynamic iris, to something that has a glass and resin lens combo, with NO IRIS! You lot call yourselves reviewers? You're nothing more than JVC fanboys, and I'm not even a Sony owner...well not yet anyway...

[@BigSaulo]

I hate that fake smiling face and voice you are doing. I like the content though. I've had a few (about 10 projectors) in the past and currently enjoying out Epson 5050UB along with a spare Sony large venue projector. I'm always looking to what's out there. Keep up the good work., just not that fake smile. Being a real person with good content is more then enough bud.

[@johnyeffenberg5747]

SONY is the best picture quality…