Umarex Gauntlet 2 ...WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY!!!

[@STKO2011]

Hey everyone, hope you enjoy this video, thanks for watching!!!

[@jumpkickman1993]

This gun didn't turn out like you wanted it to I can imagine

[@pcthawmte6645]

@STKO, I am a professional barrel inspector and polisher for more than 15 years now, looking at how this gun shoots and assuming that all the other parts and mechanisms of the gun is working fine in general, this barrel have some serious issues with the rifling. First of all I suspect, inconsistencies in the rifling pattern and a very poorly finished inside. Please check it with a bore scope and compare with your other guns. I think even the lower priced guns with mass produced non selected lothar walter barrels would beat this barrel in every class.

[@zappastail]

Rarely do I see a review that explains rifle twist rate and its effect on accuracy ...with an authentic demonstration no less. Thanks for reducing the mysteries behind the advertising hype. Still NEED one of these hahaha

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@garthjensen245]

the g2 has a twist rate of 1:16 and does not change with diff pellets, this guy does not know what he is doing. im sorry for his miss information

[@frankbrowning328]

As always a great no BS review. when the Gauntlet 1 1st came out I bought one. I sent my Gauntlet 1 to Hajimoto Productions for a complete accuracy and power upgrade. I get 885 fps with 18 grain JSBs and 934 fps with 14 gr Crosmans. The real news is the accuracy and shots per fill. I get 75 shots at full power and it shoots anything with the name JSB on it at 18 gr and more better than I can hold it out to 70 yards. 14 gr Crosman pellets go under a dime at 50 yards. The sheet that accompanies the rifle includes 21 items addressed on the rifle, It wasn't cheap but custom guns aren't cheap. Add a Hajimoto tune like he did to mine at $325 to a Gauntlet and you have a substantial investment but wow does it shoot

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@jaygeeantonio]

Is this recommended on the .25

[@michaelb.42112]

YES !!! I love my 1st gen Gauntlet. I have it all maxed out Haji'd style, bigger air tank, and all carbon fiber wrap. It looks like a sci-fi prop. I love it and it's accurate as can be.

[@STKO2011]

Right on!

[@adrianstuart921]

Can we have it for the UK please!

[@obedyahujryahuah2454]

Got my G2 30 cal. Amazing accuracy at 100 yards. Had to tighten many screws but once I did, crazy. I got it for coyotes but I’m taking out mice at 50 yards. Love it. Very heavy my only complaint.

[@STKO2011]

I have a G2 30cal video, the 30cal is a night and day difference compared to the 22/25...it had to be redesigned so it's def a better gun

[@jamessissem7319]

I have a UMAREX ORIGIN and it too prefers a heavier pellet.Love it though.

[@justjoeoutdoors3499]

Knowing what they've done with this rifle, it is designed to shoot heavier pellets and potentially slugs..with such a fast twist rate and higher pressure on the regulator, it is a no brainer that light pellets was a no-go. You should know once you push those pellets beyond the 1000 fps range that they're gonna lose stability, and adding the barrel twist rate on top of that is just fuel to the fire. Should have started off the review with 18 grain, 21 grain, and 25 grain pellets, and maybe a couple of slug sizes and weights, I was shocked when you said your pellet selection at the beginning of the video.

[@STKO2011]

fps is irrelevant...the twist at the breech is what causes instability thats why I also used 21gr to show this, these pellets were unstable before even pulling the trigger

[@justjoeoutdoors3499]

@@STKO2011 fps is absolutely relevant, the diablo shape is not stable beyond 875ish fps as a general rule, which you already know I'm sure, so I just would've thought starting off with a heavier pellet would have been the move to make. I have a 1st gen gauntlet, it has been a great gun, but I wouldn't expect the gen 2 guns to shoot/like the same ammo because they're built to deliver so much more power. Oh, something else worth mentioning, I recently purchased a FFP scope off of Amazon for like 160 bucks, 4-16 power, that thing is absolutely awesome for air rifles and for the price..worth looking into if you're ever in the market for a scope in the future. Keep making these videos, I do enjoy em.

[@STKO2011]

Don't know who told ya that but it wasn't me ....I can shoot pellets @1000fps accurately and way below 600fps, and backwards since I know how to read rifling or stability...and I swapped the barrel over to G1 in this G2 and shot 14gr over 1000fps no prob....4x better than g2 barrel, thanks!

[@jamesbroomjr]

You may have to loosen barrel and push it forward slightly...with barrel loose put magazine in breech to make sure perfect fit

[@knybean]

You’re exactly right.

[@STKO2011]

this gun has bigger problems than that

[@heithwatkins]

Thanks brother. I learned nothing but complaints from this video.

[@STKO2011]

@@heithwatkins your welcome my word means alot in the airgun community especially since I tell it like it is

[@garthjensen245]

@@heithwatkins his word means nothing in any airgun community that he does not belong to. This guy spreads false info

[@paulherndon8306]

We've been waiting for this vid thanks buddy

[@STKO2011]

You bet

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

The barrel wasn't cleaned and not yet broken in??

[@FirstStateAirgun]

Excellent work right out of the box got to love them crossmen domes

[@STKO2011]

Thanks 👍

[@todaylets2583]

Love your hat man!!

[@dwaynebaker8733]

Great honest, and unbiased review👍

[@STKO2011]

Thanks 👍

[@robertguzman4075]

Great review STKO ,I got mine about 2 weeks ago and my first mag got jammed and stuck on my 3 shot i went thru hell trying to get the mag out so i tried the 2nd mag and it would not go into the breech so i called Umarex and the guy told me to mail them back to them and they would look at them but heres the kicker i would have to pay for mailing it back to them so that pissed me off here you buy something new and it sucks but the single tray works great. So i going to order so other mags off line.

[@justletmeinnow100]

Your honesty is appreciated.

[@heithwatkins]

I love this as a bench rest rifle. The poor man's RAW. 🎯

[@suedeashton7313]

What is raw

[@ikoknyphausen198]

I enjoy your reviews. Thx. Have you tried shooting custom slugs through this gun? AVS makes them in different custom diameters and different weights, up to 40gr in 22.

[@denniscampbell8240]

Well in my opion and I'm,no expert ,,,,,the first groups you shot,,,,the 3rd set was pretty good ,,,if you zeroed it in and shot ,,,the center would be gone ,,,,in,my opion ,,,,,plus the barrel is not broke in so ,,,,give it about 2 or 3 hundred pellets then see what you come up with 😁

[@daisyduke8139]

I wonder if the .25 cal is different

[@deadhorse3389]

I read many reports of people liking their Gen1 Gauntlet vs the Gen2. when it came to accuracy. especially the people who have a newer Gen 1 with the barrel band.

[@STKO2011]

Yep!

[@jarredthorkelson1693]

so, did you just get a lemon or are they all pos and need chamber finished? (Yes I saw your other video on them), because all the other reviews I've seen everybody's drooling down one leg and crapping down the other! Your in-put is very valuable as I'm on the verge of purchasing (1) in .22 and (1) in .25.

[@ja9915]

Hi. Did Umarex ever correct the barrel twist issue ? I was leaning towards this model for my first PCP rifle. Also looking at the Avenger, but read about issues with poppet failure on all variants of the avenger series. Any problems with your Avenger ? Thanks.

[@gmanneod8085]

Wow James. If anyone thought you were a Umarex or Gauntlet fanboy you proved them wrong. Your reviews are from a straight shooter and in line with other earlier commenters who didn't like the rifle's weight. Umarex made a powerhouse for long distance and slugs. It will take some work but you can make it a more balanced polished rifle. You up for the challenge?

[@STKO2011]

Yea being honest is the best policy because I am not partnered or bought out by any brand so I can say what I feel without hesitation...the work this rifle needs is beyond its worth in my opinion...probably make few more videos on it and call it quits...due to other findings I didn't mention

[@tbsomerville5798]

Do you have a bottle or compressor? I can’t see using a hand pump on that

[@tonyd4346]

Great video! I almost made this purchase. At the end of the day. What would you recommend for the first time PCP buyer for almost hassle free shooting?

[@tejasmulay6535]

Bro give details about pcp power tuning and hammer spring

[@STKO2011]

cant tune this gun...only adjustable airguns

[@tejasmulay6535]

Not about this gun other pcps like diana stromrider,bendamin marauder unregulated

[@garthjensen245]

stko says this isnt tuneable, he lies, go to hajimotos videos this dudes videos suck

[@jfishingandhunting7671]

That gun is mint for heavy pellets

[@suedeashton7313]

What do heavy pellet do anything different

[@jfishingandhunting7671]

Same reason when you shoot a slingshot when you shoot something small it gets off course but if you shoot something big it’s hard for the air to affect it

[@lorenray9479]

My machinist boy has a blunt expression for poor quality that needs mods just to function. You sir are being honest! This gives you an A plus! I cry in frustration and give it to him. No prob. He teaches me to shape, buff, polish! Oh yeah! Success!

[@BillyBobTup]

What seemed apparent right off the bat was that it is the crappy magazine. I wish you had tried it with your Carm or mag band. ( oh wait, I jumped the gun, I see you did go to the Carm. Let me watch the rest and see if that helped) OK, it did help, a lot, but was it the Carm magazine or the longer, heavier projectiles? It would have been interesting to see that magazine also used with the pellets you began with. Thanks for the review!

[@LesSchaub]

If you really want to shoot those light weight pellets try shooting them at about 900 fps. I think you are driving them about 150 fps to fast. Betcha they will shoot as well as your UG1

[@stevehatfield1828]

You got a bad rifle; you shouldn't need to fight the magazines into and out of position. The G2 that Hagimoto tested is VERY nice. I can't go back and forth to get his URL. You and your viewers need to watch his video.

[@STKO2011]

Because he's partnered with Umarex so of course he got good gun, and I did shoot heavier pellets...everyone on UX Gauntlet Shooters Association Facebook page dont care for there's either...gun is not bad it's the barrel that needs finished properly unless your an airgunsmith or engineer you wouldn't know

[@garthjensen245]

@@STKO2011 Haji is not partnered with Umarex HAHAHA

[@STKO2011]

@@garthjensen245 dude STFU...you don't know anything...

[@olivercorpus2019]

What a honest and legit video you got there bro! I think I've change my mind and consider other brands instead thanks dude you really gave a big help🤗

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@raulaguilar392]

Thanks james for your video ,experience,advice on the gauntlet 2 I was waiting for this rifle but I will stick with the first version and look a different options, as always nice review and shooting thanks again amigo!!!!

[@pel05661]

As fast as that gun shoots you should be using a heavier pellet . Try a JSB 18.13 or heavier .

[@kansasairhunters2057]

James...getcha some 25.4 fx or jsb monsters

[@STKO2011]

I am not going to waste too much time on this rifle since there are bigger problems I have found

[@kansasairhunters2057]

@@STKO2011 that's too bad man...

[@domingoliao2724]

As the Gauntlet, has improved a bit, all tests of pcps of higher power should have the standard pellet weight of all .22 pellets right now! being all of them joining the 18.13 gr.JSB, H&Ns , FX, DayState AirArms! 14.3 gr. are too light for a full size pcp like the gauntlet !!! a good dose also are 21.14 to 25.39 gr. for. accuracy & stability!

[@STKO2011]

it's whatever the pellets match to the rifling not weight...

[@garthjensen245]

@@STKO2011 combination of both, why do you not know this???

[@haroldrisner2057]

is the barrel broke in you dont have a gun that shoots better then my gauntlets

[@STKO2011]

Haha yea my accuracy/precision is untouchable with my Avengers

[@garthjensen245]

LMAO his "avengers" and with his wal mart pellets! this dude is a reeree i swear!

[@tyrantwitness2482]

How many of these are currently stuck on container ships off LA !

[@wcb22516]

Is this gun adjustable? Is the regulator adjustable?

[@STKO2011]

No it is not

[@garthjensen245]

yes it is, dont listen to this jokester. go to hajimotos videos for the best info and how to tune. this guys a joke

[@svg_pikachu5816]

What scope are you using sir?

[@randomcuriosities8441]

Another great video with stuff you should know before investing.

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@daveb1523]

The gun is great, but still too heavy

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@rayediaz]

Such a great review. Thanks man

[@kansasairhunters2057]

Wow..thats a fast twist..I think my fastest twist in my fx rifles is 1:18.

[@gmanneod8085]

@Kansas Air Hunters Most modern air rifles I've seen are between 1:16 to 1:20. What were they thinking?

[@kansasairhunters2057]

@@gmanneod8085 I'm sure they know what they're doing...with those pellets flying THAT fast..it tells me you need heavy projectiles..I'll betcha there's a pellet or slug that will go sub-moa at 100 yards. Just wait...someone will find it.

[@STKO2011]

@@kansasairhunters2057 there's a few HN Barracuda, JSB redesigns, and more longer....but the longer heavier pellets/slugs arent that popular that's what I dont get why their barrel supplier is someone with that fast of a twist...

[@kansasairhunters2057]

I wonder if this is they're way of entering the slug market.

[@STKO2011]

@@kansasairhunters2057 but with a choke in the barrel about 3" at the muzzle....i dont know

[@fjqtaxch9]

You can swap that bottle with bottles with lower reg pressures and 3000psi fill pressure. Not everyone can do 4500 psi. Can you adjust the hammer spring externally?

[@STKO2011]

You can not adjust anything on this gun from factory

[@fjqtaxch9]

@@STKO2011 That sucks.

[@johnwilson3891]

Thanks for your honesty, enjoy your videos.

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@thraparthurlomongolomongo876]

I like your review complete information

[@Dowan_Gim]

Thanks for video.

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@vincegonzalez7249]

Seems he is selling the pellets and not the rifle...

[@garthjensen245]

he gets his pellets from wal mart 🤣

[@vincegonzalez7249]

@@garthjensen245 Maybe I should as well.? 🤔

[@garthjensen245]

@@vincegonzalez7249 i would limit range to minus 10 yards 😂

[@vincegonzalez7249]

@@garthjensen245 What rifles do you have? I bought the Hatsan .22 caliber but the tube that holds the barrel blew up, not sure how or why because there is no air in that tube, I am awaiting my new one to arrive hopefully this coming week...

[@garthjensen245]

@@vincegonzalez7249 im lucky to own a few high dollar impacts a AEA. All in diff calibers, along with the g1 and g2, a .50 hammer. You talkin about the flash? i have a Flashpup in .22 also. Thats weird it did that! im not sure how that can happen 😬. im so lucky to not have had any problems with any of my airguns besides a few showing up with leaks

[@matthewvannoy2414]

Thanks for the review very good information

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@STKO2011]

No problem 👍

[@heithwatkins]

Watched this again. I must say I don't understand why you are using lightweight pellets. You said you already know the rifle is designed for long heavy pellets. Why not use what the rifle was made for??????. Break in the rifle and use the JSB monsters/Beast. That is what the rifle is made to shoot 🔫 👌

[@STKO2011]

Because I did this video to prove a point that Hajimoto making blanket statements about the G1 and G2 are incorrect the twist rates are not the same....and I did use heavier pellets 21gr HN which match the barrel if you actually watched the video and I know how to read rifling that tells me which will shoot good....and MOST shooters dont shoot the most heavy 22 pellets ....my subscribers/viewers use the most common pellets available ...

[@heithwatkins]

@@STKO2011 OK. But I did watch the video. That's why I specifically mentioned the JSB monsters/beast pellets. The are long and more slug like. That's what I would use. 21gr is still too light. Also most shooters are using the pellets I mentioned. That's why they are currently sold out.

[@STKO2011]

@@heithwatkins well actually buy the gun then...quit commenting about buying it...see I actually have one ?

[@heithwatkins]

@@STKO2011 I can't argue with that brother. I would have one already. But unfortunately I don't own a 22cal currently. So I don't have any pellets and the monsters are sold out. So yesterday I brought a 177cal Avenger. I already have 16,000 pellets from 10 to 16gr. from every manufacturer. Also 400 12.5gr slugs. I will see how the mags and O rings hold up. Never take any comments of mine too seriously. I just enjoy talking airguns and different thoughts. I love your channel. You helped me on making the decision to buy the Avenger. God bless you brother and your family. ❤

[@STKO2011]

@@heithwatkins it's all good! Thanks for being a subscriber and enjoy the 177 Avenger definitely fun to shoot

[@chopsddy3]

I would have been happier if Umarex focused more on bringing out the Origin in .25 caliber instead of a four foot long slug gun.

[@romeoalphafoxtrot9517]

...That weighs as much as a boat anchor.

[@chopsddy3]

@@romeoalphafoxtrot9517 Exactly. They should get the fashion designers out of the drafting room and let the shooters back in.

[@STKO2011]

Yep!

[@heithwatkins]

This is designed to be a heavy/powerful bench rest rifle. The length and weight help in bench rest competition. Shooters even add weight to eliminate recoil. It's also designed for 25 to 34gr pellets. The Origin is great but designed for different types of shooting.

[@bushinbritishcolumbia6935]

Nother awesome review bud

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@joeg986]

I would send it back.

[@STKO2011]

yep!

[@AliBaba-xv4jp]

What's the hardest hitting 25 or 30 cal avail? I know issues are common but can be fixed but which is best and most powerful and with less problems ? Between G2 and AEA challenger or Avenger

[@rowania1]

I won't watch. Anytime it says "watch before you buy".... I'm out

[@STKO2011]

technically you did watch according to analytics, and you commented on the video so sorry not sorry

[@garthjensen245]

I wouldnt waste your time on this dudes videos, has no idea what hes doing/talking about

[@kurtfirestone2761]

Sending them pellets too fast that's the problem they're destabilizing

[@STKO2011]

It's the rifling twist not velocity....they're unstable to begin with at the breech

[@garthjensen245]

@@STKO2011 wrong

[@mustafaabid485]

I don't know why but some youtubers including you waste time on light weight pellets maybe because you guys use more .177 and the weight is kept constant maybe but over here in Pakistan the .177 is not popular at all. People use .22 only. Some people who are crazy for power like me use .25 and above any how i want to tell that we here use jsb 18 grain as the bear minimum we dont look at 13 or 14 grains. Only some guns like lightweight pellets which are 16 grains jsb. Others usually like 18 grain or above and guns available and popular over here shoot slugs as well quite good. I use 18 to 25 grain in .22 cal. And also the chronograph data itself speaks that you wont get accurate groups with light pellets because what i have seen for over 2 years of experience i saw that most guns love their fps to be set around 850 to 940 fps, the weight of pelleta doesn't matter if you want accurate results. You can use 25.4 grain jsb knockouts slugs at 920 fps which give a bit over ¼ inch @ 50 yards without wind. I used to buy very cheap pellets which didn't even had their weight mentioned on it but after testing i saw jsb pellets the best for both accuracy and price. For some people jsb is very expensive but the results are out class. Some h&n pellets are 1.5 times the price of jsb which aren't even good. I love jsb and so does my guns. But for chrony data i have some extra cheap tins which are not damaging for the gun but it gives a good data 😂😂. Oh and btw check artemis m22. It is the best bolt action available and plus its a budget pcp as well. I love its bolt. You have to see a video on m22 or get your hands on one, then you will know what a bolt action really is. I have tried many even some top tiers ones of my friends arent that good. Also i noticed that extra top tier guns are sidelever only which are great for rapid/competitive shooting. Also if you have budget then definitely try hatsan mod 125 sniper. You will love it.

[@heithwatkins]

177cal works great to. The UK has 12ft pounds restrictions. But other places 177cal can be very powerful. Look at the AEAC video of the 177cal Daystate RedWolf. 40ft pounds of energy. A 15gr Sniper Magnum, or 16.2gr beast, are long heavy 177cal pellets. Piledrivers are 21gr. Plus they are cheaper than the rest. Hi from the USA 🇺🇸

[@mustafaabid485]

@@heithwatkins i love the daystate huntsman and red wolf in .22. I have some guns on my shopping list like daystate redwolf, airforce texan or condor, fx impact m3 and a kaliburgun cricket as well. The only hindrance in buying these is my wallet. Once my wallet allows i will buy these and yes 177 are good but the groups open up quite a bit beyond 80 yards from what i have seen using different 177 guns of my friend. So i atleast have .22 and then my favourite is .25 but once i buy an airforce airgun i will be in love with that and ofcourse i will buy a big bore maybe a .357 or something. Also you can't compare daystate with some guns because daystate is electronic pcp which are far far better than mechanical pcp and this is why it a bit expensive as well. But 177 also has its own use like in 12fpe restriction countries or in a field where you want to take down small game without making the pellet or slug pass through the animal. But i use .22 for that purpose if needed otherwise now i am using .25 mostly and i think i will shift on a big bore once i get hands on it. These small bores would be my plinking guns, maybe i would use. 25 as well

[@vincebelmonte7710]

Great video thanks

[@STKO2011]

No problem 👍

[@JesusSaves86AB]

Gauntlet 1 it is.

[@stevehatfield1828]

I'l bet you need a heavier pellet (by a bunch). The barrel length is stabilizing these light pellets quite well. Pellets like 750 fps to 900 fps max. You got a bad

[@heithwatkins]

Monsters are the pellets to use. Anyone with a brain knows that.

[@rico334]

Yep..... If wherever you got that POS from won't give your money back, I'd have that stupid thing on the Yellow Forum for sale at the best offer........ HATSAN all the way brother !!!!!!

[@gunner5178]

Boo Hoo. It was designed as a hunters rig not a target plinker

[@stedyone1090]

Never liked Gauntlet and Marauder magazines.

[@STKO2011]

I hear ya!

[@terminadorairgunsandoutdoors]

Try to fix the trigger, then do a slug video at 75 or 100y. If the trigger can’t be fixed, throw it away

[@STKO2011]

I am not going to waste too much time on this rifle since there are bigger problems I have found

[@jacobpaul13]

Avenger hand's down !!!

[@STKO2011]

exactly!

[@tw5315]

Made in CHINA. No thanks. Quality going to be luck of the draw.

[@chillmurray7529]

Why is he YELLING!?!

[@redgum1340]

Looks like a POS. When will you do a review on the Umarex Walther Reign?

[@calvinjones1781]

👍🏿

[@STKO2011]

Thanks!

[@garthjensen245]

The twist rate does not change with different pellets! The correct twist rate for the g2 is 1 in 16. Get rid of those wal mart fall apart junk pellets and use some heavy pellets. Once again, terrible video

[@jjsstreettv5295]

STKO OVER HIJIMOTO AND RICK....WHEN U BUY SOMETHING IT TELLS THE TRUE STORY.

[@craiguderwood2388]

Thank you, My 880 powerline shoots better at 25 yards than that! It only costs 50$ I'm glad I didn't buy that crap!!!!

[@douglasuhde799]

THIS GUN SUCKS ASS!

[@tonyfriesen3237]

Try JSB HEAVY Diablo thank me later tightest groups possible out of that gun stock

[@TheMrodla]

Why don't you adjust your scope to the right so you hit bulls eye . Come on dude