SHOP TALK | 2023 Sequoia Build Part 1 | Do 35" Tires Fit?

[@stevefossum9065]

I like the look of the Sequoia so much more than the Tundra. Great video!

[@ChuongNguyen-up9fy]

😂 I agree

[@alwaysmorecowbell]

It's the front end. Mustache vs none... people are already swapping Sequoia front ends onto their Tundras.

[@raymonddurkin]

Post 2021 I agree. I picked up the last V8 Tundra and I still can't believe Toyota changed the front end look to what it is now.

[@davincisuper4801]

I love this 2023 Sequoia, I want one👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@daniels2761]

Did the team take travel/articulation measurements with the factory suspension? How about with the aftermarket? Seems shortsighted to throw the most expensive suspension there is at it without measuring anything before & after.

[@dizi17]

what a treat! Taking apart a vehicle when it is that clean :-P Tanner didn't even need gloves 😛

[@alwaysmorecowbell]

That smart-suspension really looks like a solution in search of a problem.

[@BoredThatsWhy]

How so

[@FinallyMe78]

I always do one side at a time. I already found all the tools, so no need to re-find them. And, I have the other side to look at when I forget how it fit together.

[@kudraadk]

It's got to be nice working on a brand new truck. No rust issues to deal with and nice and clean. I live in upstate NY and used to own an FJ Cruiser. I bought it new and after the first winter I started with suspension and that quick the upper steering knuckle nuts started rounding off and I ended up unbolting the two lower ball joint bolts instead.

[@LoneStarSwirl]

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods" You guys make it SOOOOO hard for me to follow the 10th commandment. UUUGGGHHH! Good stuff though, love y'all's stuff!

[@enkrypt3d]

did you have any rubbing issues with 35" tires? Mine are rubbing at full lock on the ICON Tubular UCA or Spindle.... no rubbing anywhere else. I have the ICON 3.0 CDCV suspension... otherwise it's fantastic!

[@Tanner_Johnson]

We found that the offset of the new tundra in Sequoia is different so the current Toyota offset wheels that we were running with a 0 Offset Stuck Way out, which did cause rubbing. We worked with icon to create a negative offset wheel that allows the tire to sit flush in the wheel well and eliminated any rubbing for us.

[@robertochoa9180]

How do you get 18mpg is what I want to know mine always says 12.1 and it’s stock lol

[@ryanberls]

What's the exact size you ordered from icon for the package. I realize it's all custom built from icon

[@ssjdarren]

What is the payload capacity as stated in the door sticker? Is it much lower with the TRD Off Road package?

[@garretlewis4103]

Nice truck. It must be awesome to have that Toyota support/sponsorship. If I was going to do a Toyota build, I would do a Tacoma 4 door with the long bed; however, Toyota isn’t going to give me a truck. “We are going to see what is changed and what is different.” Isn’t that the same thing? 😂😂😂

[@elvirBMT]

Wondering if the brake change effects the way the hybrid system works ?

[@theninja001]

Id like to see you guys build a 1st Gen Sequoia!

[@Indolesco25]

check out "Last Line of Defense", he is doing one as a 'budget overland build' series

[@OffRoadDiscovery]

Great details, thanks for the walk through.

[@karelesterhuizen7117]

Your stilling and detail is is just awesome, love it

[@roberthanna5497]

5 months after putting 35s on simba do you think he needs a re-gear rolling the bigger heavier tires? Are you guys planning a re-gear at all on him? I want to put 35s on mine but I can’t find bigger gears yet

[@mauricioenrique5094]

So the 35 tires wont fit without the lifting???? +

[@jazminforbes209]

Curious. Why didn’t you guys pick the TRD Pro model? 🤔 was it gas mileage?

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

I believe the Sequoia is the most desirable off roader Toyota produces that would be used for overland. It is near perfect.

[@CyberSamurai4Life]

Now that the new 2024 Land Cruiser has been revealed, do you think the Sequoia still stands at the top?

[@sotjin4]

When your a professional, You make it look so easy.

[@BreakTheAlgorithmYT]

Am I understanding that all the Tundra suspension with work on the Sequoia? What springs were used in the rear?

[@azian6er]

What is the largest tire without a lift kit do you think? 34” maybe?

[@mohammedraheemuddin7002]

Another amazing build! Can't wait for the Nordic series!

[@jmo0311]

Great video, can't wait for the remainder of the build series. But miss the adventure video series. Haven't seen one in a long time!

[@brianh5393]

I love the look of the new Sequoia inside and out, but it stops there... I'm sure XO is going to sugarcoat and not comment harshly on the high dollar Sequoia they were given. I find it interesting they are LOVING a vehicle that they replaced the wheels, tires, suspension, brakes, bumpers, and removed the third row seat (the very thing that people buy a Sequoia for). Here are my gripes: For a $70k+ vehicle it feels cheep. It has less interior space then the competition and also the previous version. The 2nd row seats are less adjustable then the competition and previous version (they don't slide and can't be tumbed separately). It has less cargo space then the competition and previous version. It lacks an AWD setting like the previous version (competition offers auto 4wd). Real world fuel economy is about 15mpg! The long term reliability and cost of ownership will be much worse then the previous version because of the turbos and hybrid system. Toyota has lost touch with their roots. What happened to simple and reliable?

[@brianh5393]

@@JimmyDevere You seem to be a person that needs to find things out for yourself. Look into what average mpgs people are actually getting in the Tundra and Sequoia hybrids. Not sure where you came up with 30% savings? What Landcruiser are you referring to? 200 series? 300 series? Or maybe the LX 600? Sequoia lacks many things the Landcruiser offers, i.e., real leather, full-time 4wd, KDSS or AHC, turn assist, front locker (300 series), and better offroad dimensions! My thought is that when you want a Landcruiser, the Sequoia misses the bar. And when you want something to move families around like the old Sequoia or any of the full-size competition, again, the new Sequoia misses the bar. If you want an expensive, really fast, oversized 4runner, with a small cargo area, the new Sequoia is for you!

[@brianh5393]

@@JimmyDevere LC 300 series has lockers front and rear. That's why I asked you which land cruiser you were talking about!

[@brianh5393]

@@JimmyDevere I don't think you get it. The average msrp increase for the 2022 to 2023 Sequoia is about $6000. Even with a 5mpg gain, it will take 100k miles to break even at $3.50 per gal pump price. The numbers are always changing, but I hope you are tracking with me. The hybrid battery in most US states has an 8yr 100k mi. warranty. With an estimated replacement cost of $4k. So if you are stuck with an out of warranty battery repair, it will take another 69k mi. to break even again. Now add in the increased purchase tax, registration, insurance, and financing interest, for the 2022 vs 2023 Sequoia. In the end your paying more and not saving enough at the pump to justify it. Meanwhile the government laughing their way to the bank because they forced the car manufacturers to meet fuel efficiency regulations and are now collecting more taxes because of it! If you want a new Tundra or Sequoia iforce max then buy it. You might be able to better justify the purchase, but it's not saving you any money in the long run. I would more compare the iforce max to a supercharged V8. It's a luxury! Back to my original point. The New Sequoia is missing out on the demographic of the outgoing Sequoia. Other manufacturers have stayed true to their demographic. For Toyota's sake, I hope they choose wisely. For my sake, I'm disappointed!

[@brianh5393]

@@JimmyDevere That's the problem. Toyota didn't offer the new Landcruiser in the US. And the Sequoia is a poor replacement. That's why I don't consider the Sequoia to be a cheaper Landcruiser.

[@U20E27]

27 yrs of Toyota SUVs 4runner, J80, 07 Sequoia. The Sequoia was my favorite but looking for a new replacement I felt like the new Sequoia was a huge miss. And in our region Toyota dealers have marked up all their vehicles $8000+ or more. No thanks. I have 50,000miles on my Platinum heavy tow fully loaded Expedition which was $72,000 final deal cost. Its been an awesome rig can honestly say I probably won’t ever own Toyota again. Their design updates have been too far behind yrs behind, add the insane dealer scalping price no thanks.. The Expedition has been rock solid big road trips 22-23mpg tank averages on 3peak rated BFGs is pretty much the norm. The brutal local kid sports shuttling around town is a solid 16-17mpg tank average. My old Sequoia was 12-13mpg in town and 15-16mpg big road trips. It was definitely superior to the old J80 in many ways but still a fuel pig. These bigger SUVs aren’t jeeps so not kidding my self that your doing jeep trails. But the muddy, snowy, logging road to a trail head or camp spot is easily doable with good tires in any of these rigs.

[@edconder2956]

I like this build even more after watching the video. Future Toyota Sequoia Trail Hunter model? …. I hope so!

[@alexandrucovaliov8989]

But.... did you update the firmware on the computer "telling" it has bigger wheels than before?

[@MikeT808]

I’d be more than a little nervous travelling remotely with such complicated suspension. Mechanical problems can be fixed. But when elec-trickery is involved it can easily leave you stranded.

[@Tanner_Johnson]

Nice thing is that all it does is electronically change the compression setting vs the manual knob on the old versions. That’s all. If it were to fail it just defaults where it’s at. There’s nothing that can fail to prevent the shock from working at all

[@daniels2761]

I have heard the XO team talk repeatedly about it being important to set up the vehicle properly, even how they dislike airbags because a properly set up vehicle shouldn't need them. Seems hypocritical to throw on a shock with on-the-fly electronic valving adjustments.

[@jsoverland]

Looks awesome!

[@stevekluba7402]

Great video, truck looked good.

[@markhopper4600]

And now to win the lottery!

[@jimjasinski4861]

Right on...6 Foot Tall is almost like the rest of us 😊

[@flatsixer105]

Silly question from a newbie: once you instal the icon suspension, how does it play nice with the Toyota "brains" and suspension controls?

[@Tanner_Johnson]

No issues at all. Its a completely independent system

[@darrellshofstall9708]

What is the total overall height of the sequoia with the Icon list and 35" tires to the top of the rear antenna? I want to make sure I can fit that build in my garage before I spend the money. Thanks in advance.

[@ExpeditionOverland]

Not sure! It’s under 8ft

[@bryanz5904]

Really really cool, love it!!!!

[@carvdecarv]

"No trimming, except for the frame" 😂

[@Neberheim]

Does it sound like his voice has been sped up or otherwise distorted? Trying to decide if I’m hearing things or not since playback is at x1.0

[@truthkeeperfilms]

I think those Icon suspension kits are a huge waste. I've seen guys with good ol' Bilstein 5100s or similar go everywhere that the overly complex/expensive Icon suspension guys went too, while being far more reliable and cheaper. Never has suspension been a make or break where Expedition Overland goes not you are rock climbing.

[@USNVET81]

I’ve had both. Currently Icon on a Gen 5 runner. Biggest diff is ON road quality

[@ryanschmitt2]

Getting there and getting there comfortably is the big difference.

[@chiefkeef4L]

its stock weight is 6,150 lbs, i think the sequoia’s deserving

[@timbrown7980]

If you got the latest and greatest for free you take ‘em over some good ole 5100’s too!

[@andyham6094]

Not if you get them for free like them. Lolll. But most guys rock either Fox, bilstein, kings, or old man emu. Rarely rarely do I see icon on rigs that people actually use and off road and wheel and overland alot.

[@bradleysargent9803]

What is the payload capacity of the stock vehicle? And does any of the modifications to the suspension increase the payload capacity? Or does the added suspension and tire weight count against the payload capacity.

[@U20E27]

Rated Payload cant be changed with modifications. In fact overland built rigs get so much weight added to them you’ll never hear them talk about weight and final payload. But their mods are fun to see and get youtube viewers. In reality all their trips the stock trucks with upgraded tires will do the trips just fine.

[@slyry4496]

Grabbers!

[@rolandowijayas7387]

how many inch lifted?

[@ranger1752]

wow! pretty impressive

[@dontask7898]

Can not believe toyota with this hybrid did not put an inverter system in like ford did

[@dimitristsagdis7340]

how much for these 3 mods so far : wheels, breaks, and suspension

[@azian6er]

Brakes are 4k, wheels and tires likely 5k, suspension likely 7-8k. So all in 15-17k over stock

[@dimitristsagdis7340]

@@azian6er tnx

[@trekandoverland]

Looks nice!

[@theninja001]

If they were done shooting Nordic in September, must need a lot of editing!

[@Baebon6259]

wait what? I thought the 3rd gen Sequoia comes with independent rear suspension like 2nd gen.

[@arneservatius1982]

My Al - Terrain (2010) weighs 6000lbs BFG AlTerrain tires 0-60 4.2 seconds. “ Oh what fun it is to tide in a horse and sleigh 😅

[@kanderson1996]

The “non body mount” is to help prevent the wheel coming through the firewall into your lap in the event of an accident. Probably would try and keep it if possible

[@MrSaamman]

They are lifting their truck. They don’t care about safety lol

[@drewolm]

Cool video, great looking shop, cool that the host is actually doing the work. I don’t get the comment, “35’s will fit in a lifted stock sequoia.” Lastly, I just think Toyota totally ruined the looks of the Tundra and sequoia. Ugly.

[@fwdadventuresza254]

An interesting build for sure 🤤

[@Mid_Life_Adventurer]

Hey guys! Looks great!

[@ExpeditionOverland]

Thank you!

[@rusiatevulakoro3169]

Good job Awesome

[@garret2042]

In 2003 the MSRP on Porche 911 Carrera was $79,000. Fast forward 20 years. Today the MSRP on a Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro is $77,000. Are people actually buying these things?

[@jcd2403]

Seriously, what a joke. Same with the new Grand Wagoneer, I believe some are specced at almost $110k

[@overislander8084]

What rear coil did you guys use? Looks great!! 👍🏼

[@Tanner_Johnson]

It’s a heavy load OME for an 80 series Land Cruiser. I wouldn’t recommend the heavy unless your adding a lot of weight which we will in the next episode. For daily driving in this configuration I’d go to a medium

[@RCGJR_]

@@Tanner_Johnson ^^this, never get heavy duty coils unless you actually have the extra weight.

[@AF_Gulfstream]

Hearing the fake V8 sound is so funny. I turned mine off at the dealer and can hear the turbos spool now.

[@TheJdelos]

I saw 8 tires on the trailer whats the other build

[@bradentokoly]

Word on the street... Toyota is going to make a TRD Off Road Sienna in 2024..... I'm sure the dealerships will be charging a $15K "dealer premium".... but, I'm still going to buy it.... hopefully ICON is already working on a top secret suspension kit... and bumpers with swing-out spare.

[@drewolm]

Yeah, that'll be badass.

[@jangofett5806]

Expedition Overland in a 3 row mom wagon that can’t removed the 3rd row seating. 😂

[@jamalfaisal21]

Beautifuulaaa😍😍💸💸💷💷💰💰

[@ncd7184]

Are they bringing content back to KZbin? Or is this a teaser and everything will remain on the overlander network?

[@ExpeditionOverland]

Almost everything will be on YT about a month after it's on Overlander Network.

[@Greghook]

I’m buying one right now…

[@andrewjarvis7777]

oh my god *repeats/chants to self* "my 4runner is enough for me, my 4runner is enough for me" gaahhh oihoiuuewinfuiwejfwe i need that sequoiaaaa

[@Tanner_Johnson]

Haha. I love my 4Runner too, but I am in the same boat as you. I really want a sequoia now.

[@Oosik91]

Me still waiting for the Greenland expedition to be online to watch 😅

[@ExpeditionOverland]

Working on it! ;)

[@ludviglyberth257]

Yeeh haar👏🤙🕺

[@lukeclement7132]

Are Tanner and Clay related? They look and sound so similar.

[@Tanner_Johnson]

Brothers from another mother 😂

[@lukeclement7132]

@@Tanner_Johnson fair enough

[@phlfly10]

That is lots money for the lift. The complex lifts are just high profit margin for the manufactures, plus you have rebuild these struts every 20 K to 30 K. Too much maintenance just drive for 100 miles way camping. I might understand the reason, if u do this on Aussie corrugate roads for 1,000 miles.

[@JimmyDevere]

No doubt. Not necessary. But for a feature build I think I understand why they go for the latest/greatest. It gets the attention.

[@kmaracinglmor6107]

😍😍😍

[@kenzurita3096]

😮

[@nbookie]

Some CAD engineer is losing his mind as you cut the knub off. He spent 3 mo the designing that! Anyone have an idea what it's for?

[@carlosarroyo5262]

Watching these makes me miss my 4th gen 4runner something awful

[@duckhunter71]

I sold my 2008 Limited 4WD V8 last spring to go back to a pickup. I understand where you're coming from 100%.

[@Baebon6259]

4th gen V8 4Runner is too damn expensive used. So I settled with its big brother. The 1st gen Sequoia

[@duckhunter71]

@@Baebon6259 That's why I sold mine when I did. Market was hot and it was a lower mile example in tip top shape. I needed a truck for farm use so it made sense to sell when I did, but that doesn't make me miss it any less! 1st Gen Sequoias are awesome!

[@ابراهيمالحيدر-ح8ذ]

سيارات تويوتا صديق وفي على الطرق الطويله افخر الصناعات

[@haibo7934]

这车在加州分分钟三元催化器就被盗走，底盘太高了

[@mcjogom]

👍👍👍

[@groundfog]

👋🏻

[@Junior-fs1lb]

Hi handsome. My complaints are the following sound noise in cabin insulation, not having double panels glass in ALL glass, not having an extra large fuel tank for a coast to coast cannonball runs. Not offering satellite service for the life of the vehicle, the sequia lacks technology equivalent to audi A8L long wheelbase. This vehicle has a poor suspension. Toyota give us what we want.

[@kurtgellert9166]

The Sequoia and Tundra redesigns have such horrible proportions. The 35's are a great improvement on the Sequoia to help bring the scale of the body in better proportion with the wheels and tires. Well done. Now do a Tundra and cut back the "nose" about a foot so that it looks right. Such an ugly truck.

[@BillyGoatsAdventures]

The non gas option is a deal killer for me, call me old school but it's not tech that appeals to me for off grid travel. I'll stick with my 80 Series, 26 years old and bulletproof. Super disappointed Toyota doesn't bring in the 79 series diesel also disappointed Toyota isn't offering a diesel or gas in the Sequoia. We were all in for a new Sequoia to add to our Toyota fleet but no straight gas killed it. It's not like you can even fix it out in the bush anyway........ Adventurous types we don't buy our vehicles for MPG it's not miles per gallon it's memories and smiles per gallon You know it's like what they've done with the Land Cruiser in North America. It's such a disappointment you can't even buy one and who would want to buy one for over 100k. Can't really build a 200, real lift 3" real tires, come on Toyota bring us the candy from. Across the world!!! Here in North America we miss out on so much amazing things Toyota has to offer around the world. I have a fully built 98 Tacoma, 97 Land Cruiser, mildly built 2007 Tundra and 2007 Sequoia. I Say this because if Toyota is reading this I want them to know that a lot of us are die-hard Toyota purests and believers. Come on Toyota offer a diesel in the Tacoma, 4runner, Tundra, and Sequoia. You would dominate the market unlike ever before! Also, I know it's a long shot but if Toyota brought in a 79 series diesel I would be the first in line! I know I sound like I'm complaining and that's not my normal MO, we are just frustrated we're going to pass on the Sequoia when we were so excited to get it. Super appreciate your content love your channel love your adventures you guys inspire me to pack the family up in the Land Cruiser and go make memories. XOverland also inspired me to start with a little KZbin for adventures and Instagram for the 1997 80 Series (The Mistress) Build and Adventures. Thank You!

[@saml5073]

You're complaining about models not being available in NA... In the UK we can't buy a 4Runner, Sequoia, Tundra, or Tacoma... I could go on

[@BillyGoatsAdventures]

@@saml5073 I have no doubt a similar situation will soon evolved here. Try as we might we can't seem to keep these people voted out.

[@jakesteve5803]

It's hybrid assist, not an EV. No plug in to worry about. I'd prefer to see an all gas option as well, but it's not like you'll be stranded. I think Toyota was right to put off adding hybrid tech to their off road vehicles and let the Prius and rest of the product line sort it out first. I hope it lasts for 200k+...if anyone will get it right it's Toyota. (Sent from my 218k mile daily driven 2UZ...)

[@BillyGoatsAdventures]

@@jakesteve5803 I understand that it's a hybrid it's certainly not for me, I'll stick to my late 1990s early 2000's Toyotas

[@бредлит]

👍🍬👋

[@themajesticmanic]

ALWAYS do one side COMPLETELY, then do the other side. That way, you can reference the other side if there's any confusion as to how it's supposed to be. That was HORRIBLE advice. Besides, when you finish the first side, you ALREADY have all the tools out that you need.

[@JoeO.]

Blaspheme! So sad to have sacrificed the venerable off-road/overlander Landcruiser for Sequoia in North America. Not to slam the Sequoia for what it is - a rugged family hauler, but Toyota decontented the Sequoia rear hatch and got rid of the power rear window. Tired of Toyota trying to promote this as an alternative to their flagship that they poorly marketed/supported in this hemisphere for more than a decade before dumping it due to poor sales…. Might as well add an AWD Sienna to the fleet.

[@JimmyDevere]

If you remove the Landcruiser name, what really are the differences? They share a lot of the same components. The modern LC is IFS, body on frame, same engine, trans, transfer case. The Sequoia is bigger but the LC is not exactly nimble and light either. If somebody wants a smaller Toyota, there are other options. I won't miss the modern LC.

[@teamturner4300]

Shame it's a hybrid. I know Toyota makes a good hybrid, but its extremely overcomplicated for only a couple mpg over what Sequoias got 15 years ago when they had a V8.This hybrid system is not something I'd want to be worrying about having to deal with or fix off-grid.

[@deanfirnatine7814]

As a firefighter I would never have a EV, they are dangerous as hell. If they catch fire (which they often do) you cannot put that fire out hardly and if you do put it out the odds are it will reignite, probably several times. Many auto wrecking yards will not even take them because of the fire danger.

[@AF_Gulfstream]

It is NiMH and not a lithium based battery ; much less volatile and cheaper to replace by a large margin. Plus they are small and take charge discharge cycles better. Additionally, they been in Prius for over two decades with no problems.

[@dell7054]

Man i want a sequoia but man, they ARE expesive, this around what 80k for the truck and lift and tires around 10k so almost 100k ouch

[@MegaRetr]

Looks awesome!