Short Barrels - .40 S&W VS .357 Magnum - Hornady Critical Defense Ballistic Gel Test

[@GunSam]

I been messing with this pistol, seems to mostly have magazine issues but maybe mag release issues as well. Here's a follow up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5moZoykmNaLeMk and EDIT I did do more tweaking a couple days after this of the feed lips and magazine springs as well as swap the mag release to the opposite side. I ran twenty rounds of hollowpoints with no issues. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJjOl3h4esx6pJI

[@samslaughter6828]

You should stop fooling around with cheap guns and consider some quality equipment like Smith, Colt, Sig. Glock,H&K ! You Sir are doing a show, and the cheap equipment says something about you! I enjoy your show, but I learned a long time ago you get what you pay for! And a professional grade weapon only cost a little more money than the cheap Saturday night special made in some 3rd world country and mil.spec/ law enforcement grade weapon are less likely to malfunction and embarrass you. $300.00 for a Taurus or $500.00 for a Sig.! That works! And please don't waste your time and money with a Ruger they are almost as bad!

[@samslaughter6828]

Good show Sam! Get you a Glock for the auto and a Smith for the rev. Test. I carry a Colt King Cobra for my rev. and a Sig. 365 or a Glock 32; for my auto. They never let me down, I can't say that about Taurus or Ruger, that's why you don't see the police carrying that junk, I'm ret.LEO. and still alive.. thanks for all you do

[@GunSam]

@@samslaughter6828 I do not agree as I started exactly as you say. Nothing but S&W handguns, Ruger and all of that. A few years ago I got a lot of people commenting that they just cannot afford the type of firearms I use and I should start to also incorporate firearms like Taurus so that people who cannot afford better firearms can see my tests with their own guns they use. You are acting like I am a beginner that needs to upgrade, when I specifically downgraded to be more real. The fact is, people are cheap and there's more people wanting to see the cheaper guns than the better ones. I am not embarrassed but you should be for making such an ignorant comment.

[@user-ch9rz3ov9e]

I got lucky with a G3c 9 mm

[@GunSam]

@@user-ch9rz3ov9e My G2C 9mm is fine as well. I have never had a 9mm not work well with many different pistols other than an older Ruger P95 I used to have.

[@GunSam]

Simple thing here, I believe that the issue with the Taurus G2C not feeding correctly (after looking at my 9mm version) and tinkering, was a simple feed lip issue. The magazine follower was staying about 1/8" lower than proper position, which not only caused the rounds to not properly lift high enough, but also the metal hook/stop on the front of the magazine (that prevents the follower from coming out) was also acting as a hook to make the rounds nose dive. The lips were about .380" space which I have no idea if this is within spec or not, but by bending to an average of about .40", I can manually cycle rounds without issue. Also I could not load more than 6 rounds and I can now load 9 rounds. With the magazine falling out, I honestly think that the force of the nosedive into that front hook/stop was enough to vibrate the mag free. I have not fired it live fire yet, but plan to soon.

[@jaycee30865]

I hope you’re feeling all the way better Sam. Isn’t the 357 about 357 times louder than... anything?

[@GunSam]

Yet another new Taurus that doesn't work out of the box. I feel like Taurus firearms are 80% firearms, in their own way. After this video I did polish the feed ramp and exterior of barrel as well and manipulate magazine feed lips. Also there is a large follower hook that is almost non-existent on the 9mm version, but on the .40 S&W version it actually hooks over the bullet noses and causes them to nose dive down, so I bent them outward a tad. I was able to rack in and out a couple magazines worth of rounds without issues, but I have not fired it since then. Hopefully there's some improvement.

[@dylanunderpar]

I have lost all faith in Taurus revolvers, they don’t have long term quality or value

[@FoulPet]

I like Taurus. It's like playing the lottery.

[@michaellavaughnrobinson]

Garbage guns just piss me off so much.

[@dodgeboy5150]

I have the same model Taurus G2C in .40 S&W. Has been great since buying over 6 months ago-accurate and reliable. Although-- I did swap around the mag release because with using the same grip style as you are (thumb over thumb) - I kept hitting the mag release and dropping the mag 🙄 Hope you get the problems with that G2C ironed out-- keep up the great videos!

[@santiagogiuntoli6726]

Yeah brazilian. It's like a little worse quality than chinese and not even a quarter of quality control.

[@ElainesDomain]

New guns that don't work gets my goat. A good test for the ammo. I prefer 180 gr .40 and 158 gr in the .357. Take care Mr. Sam.

[@buttercup8583]

I really appreciated the video. I've been hoping for one testing .40 s&w through a short barrel, especially comparing it to .357 ammo. Thank you

[@laurineil-morin3792]

I appreciate the calibers performance capabilities .40 S&W is still relevant for it's designed intent. Very good comparison great video. Thanks.

[@n0tthemessiah]

No joke, I thought towards the end 'I'm frustrated just watching him deal with that pistol, I would've tossed it already' and then you immediately did!

[@SCH292]

My conspiracy tin foil hat is telling me that when "manufacturers" send their gun product to YTubers to review they send the "good ones" to the Ytubers and ONLY to the big Ytubers.

[@josephpepper3087]

Yea. I've had Taurus autos and revolvers. All gone. No more. They are for people who have $200 and can't wait to have $400 to get a quality gun. I recently got back in to .40 and yea, it's as good as .357 mag from a short barrel.

[@peternorton5648]

I could feel his frustration when he tossed it and said it’ll go back muddy. Sam was just plain done with it. Still, nice comparison between the two calibers.

[@JeffreyCotle]

​@@josephpepper3087 my only semi auto pistols I will ever own are Colts. One is 1943, and one is new. I've never had a feeding failure. The only failure was ammo. And 45 acp will get it done. God bless. I would have thrown that pistol sooner. How could you ever trust it again.i wouldnt.😊

[@pepere2205]

Great test. I've always liked the 40S&W and have never been able to figure why in some folks' minds 500 foot-pounds, with textbook penetration/expansion is "short and weak".

[@duaneridings6591]

Because they wear " skinny jeans " and have " man hair buns "

[@GunSam]

@@duaneridings6591 They also drink rockstar, drive a decommissioned patrol car and carry a radio. I have seen the type.

[@mikewithers299]

​@@GunSam🤣🤣🤣 ripping on those "wannabes"

[@GLOCKCOPG23]

Because their little kitten paws cant take 10% more recoil and they have to justify carrying a little 9mm Paraplegic like the “Navy Seals”. Never mind it was a cost over performance choice by the powers that be. 😂

[@adamsaylor7427]

Your tests are always so well timed. Just picked up a Glock 27 and I’m using Critical Defense in it. I found some other gel tests, but nobody does it as well as you do. I think for .357 Magnum in shorter barrels, a SJHP is as good as it gets

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

Yep

[@sinqros]

Me too out of a G27

[@KD-lb9bg]

Glad to see testing being carried out with the short barrels that people actually carry as opposed to 5” duty pistols.

[@curtk8130]

I once talked to an older man who was a retired engineer at Smith and Wesson for many years at a gun show. I always thought the 40sw was just a shortened 10mm but he told me it was actually based off a failed cartridge from about 10 years prior. The 40sb or something to that extent . It was being chambered in an all metal semi auto with a 10+1 capacity and was marketed exclusively to law enforcement. I guess it couldn’t gain any traction and never reached production in any sidearms . He told me the cartridge was designed to emulate the performance of the 357 but in a semi automatic with improved capacity to a revolver all while offering more stopping power than the 45 or 38 sp. the most popular duty calibers at the time.The original design was optimized to shoot weights from 125 to 165 with the 155gr load being the standard. It kinda makes sense because to this day the 40sw really shines while using those weights. Also he said they did make a few adjustments to fit what the fbi needed at the time but it’s not just a shorter 10mm. There’s a little bit of forgotten history behind the caliber that I thought was interesting. Both of those rounds did a good job. Critical Duty is usually a pretty solid offering in most calibers. Great test!!! I hope you got that g2c lined out I’ve always considered them a great value.

[@michaellavaughnrobinson]

Ive noted some quality control issues across the board lately, i think its a sign of the times. Appreciate the review Sam, I was happy with the 357 results from the short barrell. Thanks again for the testing.

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

So true

[@chaunceyhart1346]

I just had to send in a brand new 629 to S&W for warranty repair. Cylinder was jammed into the frame and I had to literally force it out, also the front sight was badly bent. So even the “good” companies are having these problems. It was very disappointing.

[@michaellavaughnrobinson]

@@chaunceyhart1346 no kidding. I just sent in a brand new charter arms bulldog 44 classic for warranty repairs, broken out of the box, soft striking and trigger getting hung up. Total let down, was thinking maybe s&w might be better...happy to hear your insight.

[@chaunceyhart1346]

@@michaellavaughnrobinson Yeah after looking around online apparently this is common with S&W as of late, bad quality control. If I had a re do I would buy a Ruger RedHawk .44 mag instead. My GP100 has 500 rounds through it and has been perfect. It’s really disappointing to spend over 950 dollars on a revolver and then not even be able to shoot it for probably a couple months. Thats unacceptable. Hopefully they’ll make it right but it still left me with a bad impression of that company.

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

Beautiful day there. Bet it feels good to be out in it testing. I appreciate this because I’m one of the few who still thinks 40 cal is a great choice for carry and home defense. My 642 with 357 doesn’t collect dust either. As always, great video Sam

[@bohnhoff346]

This is why I like revolvers less issues Looks like the ammo did great would definitely carry both these rounds thanks for another great test

[@maxmoody3074]

Don't judge all semi autos with a junk assed Taurus. There's a reason why they're so "inexpensive".

[@bohnhoff346]

@@maxmoody3074 I’m not I just like revolvers better and not all Taurus semi are junk I haven’t had a problem with any I owned they ran just as good as any of my smiths ect

[@maxmoody3074]

@@bohnhoff346 I have 2 Taurus revolvers, I've had nothing but issues with both. One I had to send back to Taurus loaded because it totally locked up. I'm glad you've had good luck with the. I'll never own another one.

[@sombra6153]

Great comparison. When the gun store gives you a lemon, make a video…. I liked the performance of both both rounds.

[@GunSam]

Not much I can do. I plan videos out with very little money into them. Then I buy ammo that's not refundable, and I buy a pistol for it, I have no choice but to film with what I got or not make videos for a month.

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

@@GunSamIt’s appreciated. I thought you handled it well.

[@MidwestPicker]

The way you handle that 2" snubby in 357 is amazing.

[@C8Z51Scott]

Great video as always. Don’t worry about gun issues. I had a S & W MP10 that was jamming. I sent it back to S & W a couple of times with no fixes. I had a gun smith look at it and found out they put a AR15 buffer spring and tube in a AR10. S&W couldn’t figure that out. I had a Ruger LC9 that had click and no bang. Recently, I had an Sig Sauer P365XL had multiple problems and finally the slide seized with bullet in the chamber. Even after multiple lubrications, I had to discharge the firearm safely to break the slide free. As they, stuff happens 😊😊.

[@michaelcurl9197]

If the slide “seized” how were you able to lube it?

[@erichanson7293]

Love the .40. excellent performance in semi autos. The .357 is the bomb in revolvers. Both are still relevant even in these 9mm obsessed times!

[@jfowler7604]

Another excellent test that sheds light on stuff I have practical uses for. My short .357 is a Kimber K6S and I do have some 125 CD for it but haven't chrono'd it. I DO know that I can place my semi autos better in rapid fire than I can my .357 snubby. My short .40 is a Smith shield 2.0 and I run the 175 Duty for carry but also load 165 plated for practice and 165 Cast for woods carry. My 175 Duty runs about 1150 in the Smith while my 165 hardcast loads can beat that by a little. My main focus for the short .40 is critters in the woods. If I'm in town or otherwise concerned about 2 legged critters, I carry one of several small 9's. Gotta look for some .40 cal CDef ammo.

[@rangetime6779]

Sorry about the Taurus 40 S&W. I believe they are making their autos in USA now? Still poor quality. At least the Hornady CD ammo performed really well. Thanks for testing 40 S&W it's still a great cartridge and some short barrel 40 S&W testing is great.

[@Levi_shep]

If you want a test bed for a short barrel 40 I highly recommend looking for an old school Sig P239. Excellent handgun.

[@eddielevangie4811]

I was also about to suggest the Sig P239 in 40sw when I saw this comment. Very good and reliable choice.

[@Levi_shep]

@@eddielevangie4811 I carry one almost daily and absolutely love it. Great size and heavy enough that the 40 is pleasant to shoot.

[@eddielevangie4811]

Same here. I've carried many others over the years but, the P239 is the one I always come back to. Sometimes in 9mm, sometimes in 40sw, and sometimes in 357sig. For me, it comes down to shootability and reliability. The P239 shoots like a larger gun. And, I prefer DA/SA triggers. As for reliability, I have put a little over 30,000rds through various P239s (all 3 calibers). In that 30k+rds, I have had exactly 1 jam. The P239 is very reliable.

[@Levi_shep]

@@eddielevangie4811I’d do a lot to get a 357 Sig barrel for mine. It’s so hard to find a factory one at this point.

[@joseywales9101]

Happy to see the performance of the round I’ve been carrying in my glock 23 and nothing I wasn’t already expecting from Taurus, good video.

[@frankhinkle5772]

Ignoring the problems with your testbed pistol, that was a very interesting review of these two cartridges from Hornady Critical Defense. I carry a short barrel .357Magnim revolver and was considering adding a .40S&W pistol to my carry rotation. The cartridge work! Thanks.

[@FeudingIncluding]

I also have the G2C in .40SW. Got 2 years ago. Mine does not like to feed hollow points of any kind, any weight. Gold dots, HSTs, Speer V crown. 165-180grs. It will however shoot those weights in fmjs. If I could go back I would have saved a little more and gotten a Glock 27.

[@metaldamnation276]

I will definitely buy that round. I carry HST 165's in my Glock 27. Thanks for video

[@peopleperson7263]

Good comparison - I’ve been shopping for a new ccw that is lightweight since I’m tired of lugging my g23(gen 4) around. I already have a good amount of federal H$T 165 which affects my choice. There’s only one problem that, imo, still makes 357 mag snub remain king: it’s called scandium - aka the 360pd. In that j frame you basically get a gun under 12oz that can still do 400+ ft pounds (or more) with decent control. All semi autos in that weight range aren’t .40 - and almost all (save for some guns no longer in production) are actually chambered in .380! - not even 9. I was looking at a seecamp .380 which is 13.5 oz- but again , that’s like half the ft pounds of energy. I love .40 , but due to that specific 360pd model - .357 is still the ultra light carry king- much better than .380 for the same weight. That’s why that 360pd is so much money haha - SW knows they have something special there.

[@txdino6063]

Some days are just snakebit. Good info answering a questioning I’ve wondered about as I both calibers.

[@DanTheWolfman]

Hey Sam & Guys, My 1st two Meat & Bone Target Tests were to OG Gun Sam Specs, my next 3 .357 Magnum Meat & Bone Target starting Saturday are 6-layer Heavy Winter Clothing & Double MDF, then I did 3 to my new Testing Protocol/Target that I think people will really like and in them use 3.7" 9mm, 3.6" .40, 3.64" .45, & 3" .357 so all not the smallest, but more Subcompact/Macro/Mid range. .40, even from short barrels, doesn't suck!

[@lutherpayne9957]

I have the Taurus PT140 G2 and had to move the mag release to the opposite side. When I did that it solved all the mag drop issues.

[@GunSam]

It falls out when I don't have anything possibly touching it. I tried a lot of weird things that made sure nothing touched it. Still dropped.

[@lutherpayne9957]

@@GunSam Sounds like you just got a bad one... I actually carry my PT140 on occasion for EDC. Eats anything I throw through it. It doesn't care much for the Hornady Critical Defense but does ok with the Critical Duty loads. My 605B is a little hand cannon with the 125 grain Critical Duty loads....yep I carry it as well. My friends laugh because I have a pair of them. I tell them it gives me balance...Good presentation as usual. Cheers.

[@johnqpublic2718]

Nice, i often carry that very stuff in 357 mag in a 2 1/4" sp101.

[@Yetified_Mayhem]

Love both. Thx for the vid!

[@duaneridings6591]

great video Sam

[@charlesdudek7713]

Wow that Taurus pistol definitely needs to go back. Interesting comparison between the cartridges though.

[@bryanengland2466]

Sadly not a lemon. Its a known problem with ghr g series from taurus. They dont like hornady ammo. Won't even chamber the handgun hunter line. Traditional hollowpoint ammo seems to work fine though. Thanks for the awesome videos over the years and I'm glad your feeling better.

[@OldTimeRevolver]

Good test, we gathered some information about the ammo and about Taurus.

[@HopefulForever-ln5xm]

I’ve been wanting a 357 revolver after watching all your videos. I qualified in the military decades ago with. 38 special and that was my only experience with a revolver. I can’t decide if I want a short barrel or a long barrel.

[@keythsmith7924]

Two of my favorite calibers, good video

[@gregentwistle5105]

Very well done video Sam. I found your channel yesterday and after watching a few vids sub’d, you do a great job on your tests. For me this particular video of CD in 357 & 40 was exactly what I was looking for. My Glock 27 and Smith 340 using exactly those loads gave me a good overview of the performance I would get. Thanks!

[@billvilla7799]

There is a reason that .357 mag is always on the top of the list as a self defense round. Good video Sam...don't think I will be buying the Taurus! 🤣

[@bud2935]

Thanks for the great review! I have a 605! I have not put 357's thru it yet, but I will try it eventually. I have the same grip too! 👍👍

[@imeprezime1285]

Interesting tests as usual. If you want to know more about exterior ballistics of pistol bullet calibers, put a jaw cards at 50, 75, 100 yards and observe shape of holes

[@waynedavis7245]

I had problems with my 45 XDS. After 100 rounds it shot fine . I would like to see a test on a short barrel 357sig . I also am curious about the recoil of a short barrel 357 sig . Great video as always Sam.

[@JeffreyCotle]

Hi gun Sam. It will be very hard to get better than 357 mag. But they 😊all will work if you can hit what your shooting at. Even a 38 spl hit in the right spot will k.ll ya. As always awsome. That is why i either carry a Colt 1911 45, or my Ruger security 6 4" 357. I cant stand a gamming gun. Thats why i sold my 357 sig glock and bought another Colt 1911.my jamming issues went away. God bless. Awsome video. 😊

[@chaunceyhart1346]

Great video! I’ve been thinking about getting a .40. I already have some .45s. Does the 40 give any advantages? Love to see a comparison

[@texasrex2222]

Not sure about Taurus models specifically, but I get 10 rounds in my G29 (10mm but same mag capacity and can shoot .40 out of it no problem). From what I've seen with factory ammo, you typically get on average the same energy ft-lbs as .45 factory loads, but with greater capacity + higher velocities. Usually 185gr loads I order beat the same weight in .45 in velocity off the shelf, but that could just be my own experience. I usually carry smaller calibers, and thus shoot the larger ones less, so I could be incorrect.

[@MAG-li5jo]

I have not been getting new video alerts for your channel for a while now. KZbin is messing with the firearm channels. I will catch up on the videos I missed.

[@murrayjimm]

I have the Taurus gc2 in 40 and to date have not had any issues with loading.

[@texasrex2222]

Sorry to see you have problems with a new pistol right off the bat, Sam. Hope you can get it fixed! I'd guess it would be the mag-catch or the feed lips. Hope you don't have any issues dealing with customer service and get it back in working order! Only Taurus I've owned has been my TX22 and it's been good to me, but I can definitely see where QC could be an issue for them.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

I would agree results are equally good.....very comparable performance. I have carried my 40s with the Critical Defense for a couple years. I found a great buy on a few hundred 165 & 155 Speer Gold Dots so I switched when it was a good time to rotate. But I wouldn't hesitate to use the Critical Defense in 40. It isn't my choice in 9mm or 45 though.

[@charlesphillips5906]

Thanks for the short barrels.

[@theoriginalOSOK]

Great review - as always. The .357 through the MDF though looked like it tumbled? Esp given that bullet really didn't expand that much - lopsided... I carry a G22 and when I carry my Taurus 605, its with 38 Special +P lehigh 140 grain defenders.

[@livincincy4498]

I would like to see a side by side comparison of the grip length between your 357’s and your 5” 40 caliber.

[@Brykk]

I can attest that these rounds function with zero issues in my glock 27. Ive put about 300 rounds of this thru it and have never had any issues at all.

[@paulscountry456]

They make on occasion a ok gun being the largest pistol maker in the world a huge variety, but horrible unreliable junk is mostly what they are about.I have shot several over the years and all junk with issues.

[@bobcatforever3485]

GS. Always a good and interesting video. BAD Gun! Things tend to go wrong when a person is recording. Thanks for sharing and take care.

[@IntoTheWildernessBushcraft]

Hornady Critical Defense has jammed up in every sub-compact & micro pistol. The polymer tip jams into the feed ramp.

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

Hey Sam, I know you're a handgun ballistics kinda guy, but have you ever thought about testing 357, 44 mag, 9mm, etc., from rifles? I'd like to see what a 16 inch lever gun in 357 mag would be capable of loaded with proper Buffalo Bore and Underwood ammo.

[@traumajock]

I have some of the 125's. They play 2nd string to the HST's now. I have the 165's also and some 175 grain Critical Duty, but only a 4.7 inch P320 to throw them with. Been kicking around the idea of getting a G3C in 40. Please run some other ammo through your G2C and let us know if the feeding problems persist. I'd prefer Taurus to come out with a GX40, but I'm not holding my breath. Thank you for all your work, and I hope you and yours are well.

[@jasonkeating9958]

The reviews I've watched on other channels with the taurus G3c 40cal have not been anything other than pretty positive and that the gun was reliable, Watched a 1000 round review done in 1 go and no problems, Maybe it's a problem child but with constant nose dives like that i was wondering what the overall length was with these rounds, Maybe I'm over thinking it but if possible can you let us know what the overall length of the rounds are and is there any noticeable difference in length, Love the channel and especially that it's a consistently the same subject just different rounds, Keep it up as there are not many doing it properly and consistently with good detail, Any chance you could test the grizzly 180gr vs 200gr or either on their own as there are good things being said about it, but I consider your testing and option as the no1 of any channels doing ballistic testing.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Let's start a fund for Sam, get a M&P40c from the used market, 3.5" barrel and 9-round mag. 🙂 How was the recoil with that snub .357mag?

[@True70woodsman]

Man, Taurus has addressed some of their issues but obviously still have some kinks to sort out. They are overselling the point that they have fixed their quality control. I laughed pretty hard when u tossed that thing like an empty coke can!

[@kc0lif]

I'm curious about the ammo cause companies show ballistics on longer barrels not realistic.

[@tedcollins4684]

Thanks for your hard work testing. The critical defense is a good choice in any caliber, and it is readily available. At least you didn't Paul Harrell "wildcat" it.

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

I'd like to know how the 357 critical defense performs out of a 3 inch barrel.

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

In terms of energy and velocity, that is.

[@user-dt8xy7ig2d]

You should put Barnes pioneer 357 magnum 180 grain sjhp 1225 velocity up against something

[@livincincy4498]

I like the idea of a 357 with a NYC, Chicago or LA reload.

[@CyborgZeta]

Hornady Critical Defense is good ammo, although these days it's a little light for caliber for my tastes. Lately, if I want carry ammo from one of the "big manufacturers", I usually opt for whatever Federal's got. Their Punch line isn't bad, and it's affordable...by today's standards.

[@ravenrise320]

This is about the same sort of gel performance and ballistic capability that one might get if shooting Critical Defense .40 from a Glock 27. The barrel length is the key. Not the different pistols and who made them. Both calibers in Critcal Defense are premo self-defense cartridges. Either one would be a good choice over 9mm in anything BUT a +P or +P+ variation. Both .40 Smith and Wesson and .357 magnum have the combat potential that 9mm Para only really gets from being juiced up into a higher pressure range. Which causes the same sharper recoil and weapon wear that the F.B.I, various PDs, and those in the shooting community blamed .40 S&W and .357 magnum for.

[@ChuckTruitt]

Good stuff. -Gunny T sends

[@davidbones8947]

I have a G2 and never a failure ive shot the heck out of it my DCG

[@mississippidrifter5960]

Critical duty ammunition has the same red plug.

[@trocadeconhecimentos4580]

Exprimentei pela primeira vez o .40 ha uma semana na walther pps m1 que para mim.é das melhores pistolas que já usei tambem ja tive a pps m1 em em 9mm...o coice da .40 é muito superior...qualquer dia tambem irei fazer um versus entre o .40 na walther pps m1 e o sp 101 acção dupla em 357

[@Billy-d1n]

Good to see the revolver didn’t have any mag issues. lol 😂

[@leog007888]

The recoil on both looks very stout. But then again, it's more difficult to carry a Glock 22 or a L frame 357 concealed even though they won't make your hand hurt after shooting

[@progunliberal]

Tree fiddy seven is such an all around good cartridge. Need self defense? 357. Need low recoil? Load it with 38. Need to hunt medium game? Grab a 6+ inch barrel and a scope. Need to defend against bear? Hard cast +p+. It's a do it all round.

[@GunSam]

I add one more bracket, and that's wadcutters. Even though they are ".38 Special" they are like half the pressure usually, and in my mind sort of a different cartridge as they are about as low recoil as the other option, .38 Colt ammo in a .357 Mag revolver.

[@weirdshibainu]

Imaging how fast Taurus would fix issues if the dealers took the faulty guns back and short paid the invoice to the factory.

[@highsecurityagent8778]

The Taurus 40S&W G2C has to be racked fast with Hornady ftx and hollow point bullets.

[@JLE0915]

I was going to buy a 40 subcompact for carry but after watching this I’ll just stick with my 357 magnum snubby

[@douglashass477]

I never had a problem with my Taurus G2, still sold it to afford my Glock 23

[@lens7859]

Good stuff, sorry about your Taurus

[@patrickbolthouse7354]

I've fired hundreds of thousands rounds in my life. I've never had a problem with a Taurus. But I've never owned one.

[@shinjiikari8999]

Did you really throw away the Taurus? lol

[@michaelrocole7174]

Its good allot of Utubers would have edited the video you showed reality.

[@semtech5852]

Never had a good experience with Taurus

[@Fudmottin]

I'm no terminal ballistics expert, but those rounds out of those barrel lengths seem about equal to me. Sucks that that particular Taurus is a lemon. It would probably make a decent carry gun otherwise.

[@GunSam]

I think it's the magazines. I been tweaking them and I feel like when I shoot it again it will work better. The feed lips were so tight that the follower wasn't even going up to where it should be. I was pretty shocked in editing (as I was too focused on malfunctions in the field to mental note the velocity I was getting) about how powerful the .40 S&W was. The 9mm Critical Defense is like maybe 330 ft lbs energy in the G2C 9mm, this .40 S&W was a LOT more than that.

[@Fudmottin]

@@GunSam The 40 is a good cartridge, IMO. It doesn't require the beefier frame that the 10mm does. I know you asked not to make the test all about the Taurus, but it is showing a big reason why I'm carrying a small revolver instead of a comparable sized semi-auto with its round count advantage. Trust really does matter.

[@oneboyscout3653]

Nice

[@josephkee1298]

Where’s the bologna

[@joeltowle2737]

Mag issues are terrible. That's why I buy as many as I can.

[@tommcqueen3145]

👍👍

[@3Pillers]

👍

[@mattnewcomb4147]

Sam you're working hard to put out good content! The video is informative but you have the worst luck with reliable guns lol

[@GunSam]

Thanks

[@hypervigilance1465]

wow i will never buy a taurus.

[@adamannala5498]

I don’t know man Taurus is pretty terrible with their tolerances. You should really anticipate a lemon from them.

[@CreasyEQ]

I lost my patience, just watching you shoit that damn gun 😠 😡 🤬 💯

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

Sorry about your luck dude. I've owned several Tauruss over the years and honestly its a crap shoot on what you get. Their quality control is essentially non existent. I feel like 15 years ago they were much better but unfortunately keep going down hill.

[@timrobinson6573]

I had a PT145 that would nose dive the first round of a full mag everytime and would sometimes drop the mag when shooting. It sat is the gun case for a long time and I just sold it in the last year.

[@steveo85]

Plenty of examples out there so others don’t make retard taurus purchases but some people have to make their own mistakes

[@Breal308]

Hopefully a lesson learned

[@eddybear771]

That's a seriously screwed up gun. It must have been finished by someone goin on vacation.

[@MrBuckeye63]

Im not a bit surprised with the performance of the 40 S&W I actually carry a Charter Arms revolver in 40 S&W The light 125gr 357mag would cause a good wound channel Light bullet high velocity The 40 S&W in 135gr would do similar type of wound channel I carry good ole 180gr in all my 40 S&W .. 27 & 23

[@jermainerace4156]

Taurus is actually a citrus fruit company.

[@dane5896]

I wouldn't own a taurus👎

[@FrankH-d6x]

I'm selling my two, one 605 and g3c, and trying to decide what to go with. Looking at a Springfield .40, 3" subcompact. for 300 at a local shop, but wanted to find out about expansion first.

[@CreasyEQ]

Dont used this .40 caliber in a stressful situation ❗❗