Short turns exercises 2021, visual learning

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Skiing short turns with some exercises,main focus is on skiing. If you want contact Andy send me msg. All comments are welcome. Best ski for short turn training are with smaller radius 12 to 16m, Andy is a PRO so he can do it with gs skis too.

[@artieedwards]

I have watched this video several times, focusing especially on your edges, your stance, and the positioning of your skis as you move through the turns. Andy, your rhythmic movement is beautiful! It's PERFECTLY beautiful! I can't wait to get to get out to the slope so that I can practice this lesson. Thank you so much!!!

[@miromiro]

thanks

[@anthonyalpha4118]

I've been doing the Poles Up drill a couple decades now, is among my favorite drills. Poles behind the knees haven't seen that 1 before another thing to try! Thanks love to see an OG like myself SEND IT!

[@miromiro]

thanks man, have a great winter

[@grahammurray6785]

Like the poles by the side which then developed into a natural pole plant ,, can’t wait to try ,, if we can get out this season 🤞👍👍👍

[@miromiro]

I know if you dont live in skiresort is hard. But Switzerland is open

[@dasalpengluhen1747]

Nice Video, effective exercises 👍 But: As Ski-Instructors should be good „idols“, please wear a helmet 🧐😉💪

[@miromiro]

Good point!

[@ardenpowers7730]

Nice display of controlled corridor Skiing ! Great example of "short swing" and "crossing under" !!

[@miromiro]

Thank you very much!

[@ivantaribe4769]

Beautiful video miromiro the best

[@pawstol]

Thank you for this video and other too, plz more!

[@miromiro]

Will do!

[@ivanzovko6712]

Bravo Miro :) super video

[@williamspostoronnim9845]

Хорошо. На лыжах GS выходит не карвинговый. а классический поворот с боковым проскальзыванием. Он же лучше годится в случае. когда необходимо ограничивать скорость, и меньше требует усилий. Okay. On GS skis, it's not a carving turn, but a classic "brush" turn. It is also better suited in cases where you need to limit the speed and it requires less effort.

[@Mikey8405]

Wow...this Video is perfect to improve my skiing practice! Very easy explained and some helpful exercises!! Please make more of these videos...very professional!! Keep on skiing!!

[@miromiro]

just remember speed is your friend

[@dadalsak1097]

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[@rokzadravec2246]

Such a cool bluebird day for some turns 🤟🤟

[@miromiro]

And 10 skiers in whole ski resort

[@smallbiz9852]

I'd emphasize less "up" as you unload the old turn and more of a retraction and roll to start the new turn in order to get on the new edge quickly. If you look closely the skis are not getting on edge until they reach the fall line or even after the fall line. The heavy outside leg push from almost an old a-frame position takes the body uphill at the end of the turn whereas if you allow that outside leg to collapse into the new turn the body follows and moves down the hill, allowing the skis to get on edge much sooner. In the medium turns I see this movement and you will see a carve throughout the turn. Take that same movement and just tighten up the radius. Good stuff, Nice video.

[@inquistive]

#MSSmllBiz I agree with all of what you say except the bit about getting on new edges before fall line. Show me a video of someone on edges before the fall line.

[@mauricetate3571]

Look at any harb video

[@user-hk6vs4eo8j]

Браво,это круто и красиво!!!!!!!

[@Radoslav946]

Bravo Miro, seriously useful video. Thx.

[@miromiro]

Thanks

[@falllinemaniac]

Your video is very well done. Summertime here you have me missing my Deacon 76 on firm snow. Andy has great mechanics, the positioning and timing is spot on. Unfortunately he doesn't commit to the crossover. Edge changes look forced and the oversteering on the second half of the turn becomes a heel push. Short turns are best momentum control using the front half of the ski during the first half of the turn. Force the ski to drift into the fall line and the second half of the turn needs zero braking action. All the pole tricks can be productive but when the feet are wrong they're not going to change it. I'm only posting this because the video is a bit misleading to skiers trying to improve. Thanks

[@miromiro]

i love deacons

[@shelloiluk]

Brilliant video thanks from london U.K. 🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@miromiro]

Thankyou. I hope we can ski soon.

[@bornarajnovic8245]

Odlično!

[@alexriley2337]

Definitely the best ski tutorial Ive ever seen! Well done Miro

[@miromiro]

Glad it was helpful!

[@reinterpret_cast]

Those short turns look like skidding not carving, i.e. the skis are moving sideways the first half of the turn

[@williamspostoronnim9845]

Да. И лыжи, похоже, не слаломные, а GS.

[@fatdoudou]

So many ways to short turn. This may be the most popular one. Definitely not a carving short turn

[@nickbalashov1780]

@@williamspostoronnim9845 , о чем собственно в видео и сообщается. Лыжи - R23m =))

[@jeffscott7223]

Totally agree

[@janwalor3014]

I like the window. I’ll steal that.

[@peterd7157]

Nice

[@ps.inga.youtube]

Best tutorial on short turns! Keep it up

[@miromiro]

Thanks ips

[@sunnyjjang6472]

Fantastic...^^

[@miromiro]

thanks

[@riccapatrol]

Do it again! 😄👏🎿

[@marcosreis6311]

Here in Brasil i love to spent my evenings looking.... to see

[@oss1213]

Super👍

[@miromiro]

Will you try it?

[@oss1213]

@@miromiro I will try it one day for sure but I have no skis for that yet )

[@miromiro]

@@oss1213 any ski is good for start

[@Esperluet]

0:31 It is a question of pushing laterally with legs, turning ankles ? Is it skidding or is it carving ?

[@miromiro]

Its pushing and then turning ankles but pushing goes from thumb inside to get edge, and a bit skidding beacose to turn ski with r23 you cant do it on edge all the way, so you need to turn the feet, but it is strong pressure on foot just below thumb toe.

[@Esperluet]

@@miromiro R23 are too long, aren't they ?

[@miromiro]

@@Esperluet yea they are for gs the best

[@ewallt]

Some of those look hard on the back.

[@user-mi2rv9bu1h]

Нормально валит ✌

[@xm1429]

miromiro the brand I trust 😃

[@miromiro]

Its brand you canot buy but it is free for watching 🤪

[@xm1429]

@@miromiro love it, keeping going back to watch them. Thank you for sharing and please bring it more 😆

[@maki1710]

Odličan video, i nekoliko novih vježbica za kurzschwung, na kojem osobno moram još puno raditi (posebno kad se vozi na crnim stazama). Vidim u St. Osvaldu odlični uvjeti, ali ja uvijek potrefim kad je vjetar ili magla🙄

[@miromiro]

Ma mi snimamo samo kad je sunce 😀

[@miromiro]

ako budes tu na planini javi se

[@maki1710]

Da, planiram ići. Samo jedan vikend kad bude prognoza povoljnija. Prije neek mi karta propadne ili prije nek zatvore 👍

[@ivanbogicevic9247]

S tell us something about your ski boots and skis?!

[@miromiro]

Boot is stiff tecnica 130 flex or more, race boot, and ski are alsow stiff and fast, it is blizzard master model. I use boot 130 lange rs, but you can ski good with 120 flex too and medium hard ski. For learning 177 size is bit better. So race skis are build to ski on icy conditions so they have really good torison stiffnes and when you put ski on edge ski holds and will not slide. If its softer snow i have allmountain ski fischer 80 mtn 180cm and scarpa maestrale rs 120 boots.

[@nikserebro349]

Сейчас выйду на лестницу и попробую так спуститься, потом отпишусь 😀😀😀

[@miromiro]

Davaj davaj

[@nickbalashov1780]

@@miromiro , there is still no report from him ... Something went wrong! ... 😆 // Что-то пошло не так!... =))

[@nickbalashov1780]

@@miromiro , /// the season is gone ... now I just watch the videos ... and prepare for next year😊 I hope to break out to Austria, and to the hintertux too))

[@miromiro]

@@nickbalashov1780 o shit he is not looking at smartphone

[@nickbalashov1780]

@@miromiro , yeah... it looks like you lost a subscriber... 😭 Maybe you should use a disclaimer next time? - "Don't try this at home!" ?🤔 //especially on a stone staircase inside an apartment building 😁😁

[@jcmoye1]

Looks good, but we don’t have a chance to ski short turns on edges like that in the East. Trails are not groomed like carpet up here 😂.

[@user-du3rx5lw9m]

Where is your helmet? Safety education is also important in the learning video, so set an example for beginners. Let's recall Michael Schumacher.

[@miromiro]

Allways helmet !

[@deal2live]

What about ice conditions?

[@miromiro]

For ice good serviced ski with 88 or 87 edge will hold, if ski is not sharp it is gonna be hard to hold edge without sliding, but key things, lower skier position, and center body balance, every move on back will result to sliding and going out of contol, important to push knie inside to get more edge angle. I hope i helpd a bit.

[@ericheintz5761]

No helmet in this age?!? trying to teach kids and need to tech safety too

[@ionelamarinau]

I can’t look downhill as I panic any suggestions?

[@miromiro]

maybe one Jägermeister shot

[@ozgurgultekin683]

Washing out too much from your tail.You can not stay forward all the time. You should transfer your weight during the carv

[@chrispowers1862]

Agree. Tom Gellie is best I’ve found showing weight moving front to back in the turn

[@janturek766]

Honestly I don't think it is technically right. There is no smooth transition of weight from one leg to the other. It looks like he goes down and does half hockey stops just to controll his speed.

[@gregscottjung]

Thanks for confirming. Guess this is okay for recreational, but not racing technique

[@jcmoye1]

He’s accentuating the movement so you can get an idea of the movement.

[@jcmoye1]

He’s accentuating the movement for demonstrating purposes. He’s a very accomplished downhill skier.

[@mattweitz7615]

"Up forward, down forward"? What are getting at with that expression?

[@miromiro]

It is movement folowed by pressure on front and not leaning back, it means just not to go down in seatback and not to go up leaning back. It is usually tippical mistake by beginners to go in lower possition by going bit back and then it is all wrong later. Happy training i hope i helped.

[@mattweitz7615]

I think that instruction may have value for novice skiers who are often unintentionally allowing their centers to move back, but in dynamic skiing we want to move subtly fore and *aft* as we move through our turn phases. Also, on the groomed conditions shown here, there’s no point where an “up” body extension is helpful. In turns that start with extension, early pressure transfer to the new outside ski is important, otherwise the skier unweights the skis as shown in your video, losing snow contact in a quick windshield-wiper-like edge change. Compact, retracted turns are of course also inconsistent with the “up” command.

[@miromiro]

@@mattweitz7615 it is about proces and exercises, for shure we can find mistakes. but it is step by step proces, every step gets a bit more info to process, and not to perfectly explaining the turn in detail, that is learning by doing, as you say advanced short slalom carved turns are without up and down and, but this will be in some new video in future.

[@mattweitz7615]

Many good instructors over the past 20 years have founds that it’s possible and preferable to teach carved turns from the start with no up unweighting - shaped skis don’t need it, and the loss of ski/snow contact resulting from “up” movement kills dynamic flow. For most of the intermediate skiers I teach, and virtually every skier who learned to ski before 2000, a foundational focus is eliminating unnecessary up unweighting, and that unlearning process can be hard. Up unweighting has its occasional place in heavy, choppy snow and tight terrain with obstacles, but for groomed carving progressions it’s clearly regressive as evidence and experience has shown now for decades. I’ll look forward to your future videos where you smooth things out.

[@Esperluet]

1:51

[@miromiro]

🤪🤪🤪

[@hanyulan4617]

R23 ski for a short turn exercise video😅😂😂

[@miromiro]

it is about skill not equipment

[@hanyulan4617]

@@miromiro fantatisc skills show off then. try the VanDeer GS Pro R21 next time

[@miromiro]

@@hanyulan4617 super stiff and fast

[@hanyulan4617]

@@miromiro 😬😬😬

[@user-op5tp9kd3v]

Класс..., только это не карвинг... - он же задниками гребёт... До 3:39 на это невозможно смотреть - это каталка, как не надо... А с 4:10 опять началось... Зачем он так пяткой работает - это же лыжи, а не метла...

[@nickbalashov1780]

Анди может и карвить и в SL трассу пройти. Здесь он просто показывает возможную технику работы "сбросом пятки" на "тяжёлых" лыжах. Новички должны уметь применять эту технику, потому как для них вначале все лыжи - "тяжёлые"! 😁

[@sidporobic9310]

too much popping, skies not parallel and carving on inside ski (a frame)

[@andrewpeters9520]

Poor technical ability. He’s only using the tails of his skis to “turn” . Nice video otherwise IMO. Look at Paul Lorenz on KZbin to see the difference.😉🙏🏻

[@fernandogonzalezherrero8622]

Y habló el listo, el mundo esta lleno de espabilaos

[@maki1710]

Paul Lorenz-Slalom Ski R13 This Video GS Ski R23

[@miromiro]

so too turn nice gs ski you need more technical movement then just slalom edge carve, so there are two different styles you see here.

[@gregscottjung]

The difference is Paul Lorenz uses proper radius skis in his demos, this one not so much. Gs R23 = gs turn demo, not sl

[@dj_617]

Definitely not the best example of good short turns. Too much heel pushing.