Now THIS is bang for your buck! - Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro

[@Metal_Maxine]

"I hope it's not [something] lined - that way you'd die of neurotoxin poisoning" - Dan, as ever the cheerful member of the LMG team. The first time I saw him, he recommended doing electrical repairs standing on a metal chair because "if you get it wrong, they can't make you do it again"

[@SUPER_ZOMBIE]

LMAO I remember this! I don't remember what video it was from though

[@bubbledoubletrouble]

PTFE, aka Teflon. When heated to very high temperatures the fumes can be toxic.

[@BAoxymoron]

Dan, the Lumalee of LMG

[@kingdraconias]

@@SUPER_ZOMBIE It was the one where he was helping Linus setup his new living room's VR setup. And what he said was something more like "If you mess up, you don't have to go into work tomorrow."

[@MowMdown]

@@bubbledoubletrouble FYI - If you, or anyone reading this, ever uses the "self-cleaning" mode on your oven, you need to open all the windows, remove any persons and pets until the cleaning is complete because it does burn the PTFE lining off.

[@ZackMuffinMan]

LongCircuit

[@autofocusphotos]

We had the exact same idea for a comment lmao

[@sillyWillieBilly]

This one actually though was informative and covered everything. I didn't mind this one at all.

[@christophercannon769]

That's what she said

[@JackyAnimations]

Lol

[@Ripinda1911]

Shortn‘tCircuit

[@sstalder5]

Can Dan just have his own LMG maker channel at this point? He's got so much knowledge to share and I feel like it'd be an instant gold play button to add to the collection.

[@shanematthews1985]

Linus Maker Tips, where we make just the tip

[@wobblysauce]

Dan needs to re master the Christmas music

[@Cobyc5150]

I can hear it now, " welcome back to the shop to another episode with maker Dan. Today we will be.....

[@BenCos2018]

Facts I'd watch his channel for sure

[@Kyle496]

​@@BenCos2018 I'll not be making anything but for whatever reason I'll probably watch everything he's showing off.

[@Luck-r9l]

Can Dan review a handful of printers and give us his suggestions at each price point?

[@evilgremlin]

Well if you want most incompetent reviews... And he admits complete incompetency by "my home printer runs at 30mm/s"

[@imapotato5927]

@@evilgremlin yeah and when he said the heat sink fan was for part cooling

[@blacknovella]

as a hardcore resin and fdm enthusiast. Dan knows his stuff I want dan doing more of these.. he knows what he is talking about.

[@MonkeyWithAKnife]

Or MandicReally, Modbot, CNCkitchen, 3DNero, 3DPrintingNerd or one of the many other channels focused on 3d printing.

[@blacknovella]

@@MonkeyWithAKnife i too am in many of their communities :)

[@yohojones]

I could listen to Dan review anything. So calming. Great episode.

[@ssl3546]

I like how Dan has basically taken over Anthony's (RIP) function at LTT. Dan started as this unpleasant sarcastic guy but he's mellowed out at alot.

[@Internetianer]

@@ssl3546 rip? o.o

[@JWF111]

@@InternetianerAnthony is a lady now I think, so no more Anthony

[@verakoo6187]

Not a review

[@Internetianer]

@@JWF111 that doesn't really change who they are as a person though

[@OrDuckVet]

I like to picture Dan reviewing random things in his home. “Well, this fork is a bit small, but I mean, well, it’s fine.” 😂

[@vPeteWalker]

I love these videos where someone absoutely knows their shit with a particular product. I don't know jack shit about 3D printing, but I'm sold on this product based on Dan's assessment, and I understand why this is great. Very well done.

[@Brandon-jf9cv]

He actually knows very little. He called the heat sink fan the part cooling fan and he says his printer at home can only do 30 mm a second if you’d like to see 3d Print reviews there’s a lot better you can do not saying his is bad there’s just gaps in his knowledge.

[@mads6103]

​@@Brandon-jf9cvAgreed, could be way worse though

[@juts89]

It's a sponsored overview, absolutely do your own research

[@tonim.9460]

​@@monki_sudoafter two weeks? wtf you're lubing it with? water?

[@BeefIngot]

ugh. Don't be tricked my dude. He is absolutely not an expert by any means. Many many inaccuracies and misses. Not his fault, but don't take this as the be all end all source. Heck, don't even take the recommendation

[@sturdybutter]

Now this is a 25 minute shortcircuit I can actually get behind!

[@my_alibi]

For $300 that is an outstanding value.

[@privacyvalued4134]

Yup. This is the first PLA 3D printer I've seen that actually makes sense and looks pretty solidly engineered. It's a shame it's just a PLA printer. I'd love to see a desktop metal sintering 3D printer at $300. Currently, metal sintering printers run about $12,000 on the cheap end and easily push $100,000.

[@Leesboringlife]

I just looked it up and was like WOW!!

[@hazonku]

@@privacyvalued4134 True. I remain hopeful laser sintering printers will find their way down to affordable prices one day like FDM & resin did. As stupid and wannable Apple as Formlabs are I will give them credit for making the first effort in making at least nylon sintering printers that are more in the small business/rich hobbyist price range.

[@edenassos]

@@privacyvalued4134 Choosing beggars.

[@sxmtaekwon-do7685]

metal sintered for $300? dude.... are you even serious. LOL @@privacyvalued4134

[@s4nari]

Thanks to Dan for hosting today's video.

[@Shynd]

The tiny fan in the hotend is for cooling the heatsink, the two fans on the side are layer cooling fans.

[@tjCooper88]

Came here to say this. Why would you ever have two fans blowing at each other for the heatsink cooling 🤦🏻

[@GeneralRasp]

I love when Dan gets to review 3D printers. Always enjoyable and informative. I would love to see him do a general trouble shooting video for FDM printers.

[@ricknaam5658]

shortcircuit doesnt do reviews, this is an initial impression

[@sven2701]

Agreed. First time I've watched one of his videos, super informative. Subbed

[@xvr6036]

The best part of WAN Show, and now, the best part of ShortCircuit 👌

[@digiscream]

I've had my Neptune 4 (non-Pro) for about a week now, and this is probably the best video I've seen on it. That said, I've been printing at a real 250-300mm/s, and I haven't had any of the issues seen here - aside from a bit of ringing, my prints have all come out perfect. In practice, this is just as fast as the Bambu printers, and the only thing it lacks is proper input shaping; the accelerometer headers are present on the controller board and it's obviously present in the firmware, there just...isn't one. In a sub-$300 printer, that's not the worst thing in the world I guess.

[@Itsudemo1]

It may be close to as fast but it's still a v roller bedslinger. It'll wear down quickly when pushing 200mm/s Core XY is for fast printing

[@digiscream]

@@Itsudemo1 - when you can buy 2-4 of these for the price of a CoreXY, it's not really a problem...especially when you consider the closed ecosystem and crappy firmware limitations of most CoreXY printers on the market, compared with this one running Klipper.

[@blackeyespecialist88]

Bought this for my wife for Xmas. I was having second thoughts about this printer after I bought it,but your video made me feel much better. I was actually able to understand what you’re talking about. BRAVO man

[@nicksterspad]

Great video! I love how it feels like the editors are allowed to try to express their personality with funny clips but their editing doesn't distract from the content.

[@Anyobservation]

Dan is one of the best, if not the best host at LMG. Always lots of humor and knowledge while casually being well spoken and easy to follow.

[@koybuscho5880]

Mine just got here 4 days ago. It’s a fantastic printer. Done some complex prints like castles and stuff at full speed (250mm/s) and it KILLED IT. Amazing value!

[@BeefIngot]

You almost certainly did not. It's a common beginner mistake and I'm not the least bit judgey, but you should know at any usual layer height the hot end wouldn't be able to keep up, and the printer would never actually be able to hit top speed unless you cranked the accelerations so high that the print came out looking awful other than literal straight diagonal lines across the whole bed.

[@droniedj557]

But the Bambu lab X1 does a great job? It isn't that unbelieveable.@@BeefIngot

[@NimVim]

@@BeefIngot Youve never had a high speed printer before, have you? LMAO

[@BeefIngot]

@@NimVim I most certainly have. You are rarily printing at a speed this high even with a very high flow hotend. People get tricked by manufacturer listed travel speeds and think their printers must be hitting them while they can't handle the required volumetric flow. I have an X1C and a super modified kipper printer btw.

[@NimVim]

@@BeefIngot Ah like that, I thought you meant it just plain simple wasnt possible lol, apologies.

[@ReaperUnreal]

I was fully expecting this to be $600+, seeing it at $300 makes me seriously consider it.

[@TheTonie4]

@@monki_sudo This isn't meant to be a real review in the first place, these are just overviews of the products essentially, especially with this people a sponsored one.

[@talharoxen]

@@tombeardy4833 Is that good?

[@Digitness]

@@talharoxenit’s like a cult. Bambu lab has almost gained a following like apple. Apparently they are good

[@user-qr3em2zp8h]

Just bought one. Excited to see what it does.

[@NimVim]

@@user-qr3em2zp8h I think itll 3d print

[@DanielSalley3D]

FInally got my 4 pro. I was as concerned at home the head would move itself to death but the speed the bed moves really is amazing, it'll prevent the head unit burning out the rails ! Great printer, even compared to the Bambu its amazing for the money!

[@beardedgaming1337]

can you please make a how-to for setup? ensuring things are square, that motors are stepping correctly, that beds are level, that hotends are flowing properly... from square 1

[@Dramaican88]

It is very nice to see and quite obvious that Dan's knowledge around 3D printing has improved and grown a lot and in a relatively short time! Also really nice to hear that the engineers at LMG are using Vorons. This great as a "first printer with Klipper" option for newbies and I hope printers with stock Klipper that are this affordable reach "ender 3 status", especially since they seem to have a better out of the box user experience. It used to be that consumers would buy an ender 3 and then in the first 5 minutes they started ordering upgrades and printing modifications to make the printer actually print well. I am happy that those days are gone and now you buy a 300$ printer and you can actually have some nice prints without any need for modifications or fixing issues.

[@treeoflifeenterprises]

i bought one of these as a first 3dprinter based on the review, and some yt vids showing that it wasn't impossible to do 3d cad. Apart from a slight challange with the initial manual levelling, it's been great; easy enough to setup, and use. the network acess is only while printing, which is worth mentioning. the money off discount is available directly. Its taken a little while playing around with settings to get precise holes and first layer for latest version of cura, but it seems to be quite capable. It can handle abs and nylon as well as the usual pla.

[@urhomarkkanen]

"I hope it's not PTFE lined, otherwise you will die of neurotoxin poisoning" Just a PSA for those who don't know, PTFE, commonly known as Teflon, starts to decompose at temperatures above 260°C, so unless you for certain that your hotend doesn't contain PTFE (for example full-metal hotends, most hotends do have PTFE in them) its not safe to print at temperatures above 260°C

[@jameslewis2635]

Nice to see someone like Dan doing a review like this. He comes off as someone who knows his stuff, at least where it comes to 3D printers. It also makes a difference that he is throwing things on the floor rather than randomly dropping everything he touches.

[@dylanstorts4327]

I want Dan to get more Short Circuit content to the market. He is thorough and funny and I love it!!

[@CanuckCreator]

`We run it in our creator warehouse for our little Vorons` How is this the first time ive heard of LTT running vorons? lol

[@takuya2431]

The best comes last i guess :hehe:

[@rux_ton]

This was my first short circuit video, never really wanted to venture here and boy was this a BANGER video, kinda swayed me towards this as a secondary printer. Ive been teetering between this and bambu labs p1p (look i want the companion cube ok)

[@B_T_B]

I for one was happy when I got the Neptune 3 Max, then a week later releasing the Neptune 4 series! Hoping they dont release the 4 Max for a while! What I can see from that review of the 4.. Differences are the extra fans on the back of the extruder. Extra light on the extruder. 300°C temp upgrade on that nozzle. Yeah im happy and reckon I can upgrade this max with no problems. 😁

[@Tommy_The_Gun]

The printer I am currently using (and it is also my 1st 3D printer) is Creality CR200B - And for the 1st printer it is actually pretty awesome. The only downside I can think of is that bed levelling is not automatic - it is same as here (4 knobs & sheet of paper trick). But again, the price point is similar to the one in the video, but what you get instead of way too fast printing is fully enclosed printer that is pre-assembled & works out of the box. I was even able to print some ABS stuff and it did not failed. And it is not that the printer is slow. My default print speed is set to 60.

[@v3c7r0n]

The only two things stopping me from pre-ordering this machine (it is pre-order only at the moment) : 1 - "Remember. No pre-orders" 2 - The question if this is a cherry picked / "golden sample" - This is by no means a shot at Dan or LMG, but I 100% agree with Dan on the question of how the hell it's so cheap

[@BeefIngot]

you shoudktn because the P1S exists and is far better value.

[@kwedl]

If anything preview/review models of 3D printers are usually slightly worse or lack some features or final touches of the consumer release. Elegoo and Sovol are great brands, not everything has the be Bambulabs or Prusa expensive to be good.

[@kwedl]

@@BeefIngot Why are you all over the comments recommendig people Bambulabs, especially as their first printer. 99% of people will never utilize them or require their features. Most people will even be fine with a Kobra Neo or used SV06/Neptune 3. You keep going on about how nobody knows what they are talking about, but you blindly telling people to buy 700+ dollar printers is just stupid.

[@BeefIngot]

@@kwedl Its not blind at all. I have experience with all spectrums of printers. I say with full context that this is the best option, because I think people value their time, not getting frustrated, not having to tune and calibrate and I've seen way too many people give up or spend all their time with the printer trying to improve it. This printer, you don't do that. It's absolutely a great justification.

[@v3c7r0n]

@@BeefIngot I'm severely inclined to disagree. First, for the price of a P1S I can buy two of these printers. I am not looking to spend that much at this time. Second, my use case and rationale behind wanting this machine requires zero of the advantages the P1S may or may not have over this machine. Since you don't know my particular use case or rationale, good luck proving otherwise. Third, since, as stated, you know nothing about my intended use of this machine, my experience with 3D printing, or what other machines I may or may not have, your blind (and thus blatantly ignorant) recommendation falls on deaf ears. Fourth, the amount of comments you've dumped trying pumping up the P1S has me thinking that at worst, you are on the Bambu Labs payroll (making you a paid shill) and at best, you're so deep in the fanboy-ism you legitimately cannot comprehend why anyone would ever buy anything else, and both is never off the table. Also, it should be noted that no matter what you may attempt to reply to this with, you cannot prove to me either of those statements are false, not that I'd care if you could.

[@kstricl]

I JUST bought an Ender 3 V2 Neo in early June. This makes me jealous, but I don't regret my purchase - some of the joy in these units is modifying them. I changed it to direct drive less than a week after purchase using a model from Thingiverse, which I have since modified to add things I wanted. This Elegoo is now on my recommend list for those that want to start without being modification happy.

[@cparks872]

I'm a fan of Elegoo, I've had their Neptune 2 for a couple years now. Great budget printers. Probably going to be upgrading to the 4 or 4 Pro here in a few months. Their customer service is top notch as well.

[@99prxp]

build a voron

[@tophatv2902]

@@99prxp dont do this just get a bambu for cheaper

[@cparks872]

@@99prxp Unfortunately I don't have the budget for that. Maybe some day. It does look like a fun project!

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

Toss in a CHT nozzle and that printer looks like it might be a winner. Its really nice to see cheap printers coming to market with klipper installed so we can print fast. There hadn't been any major advancements in FMD machine in the past 4 years aside from volcano style hotends. Like there have been a few smaller things but now with klipper, Volcano, and CHT nozzles we can actually print really fast. Eventually my sidewinder x1 will die and the neptune 4 pro might be my next printer

[@MeruXYZ]

Wow. I’m actually sold. I’ve been waiting to bite the bullet on my first 3D Printer. This doesn’t look like a cheap little toy and I can learn a ton while having actual functional software and features.

[@clementfrance2905]

Ordered ! You sold me at "EVERY beginner should have this printer". I've been doing CAD for years and hesitated to take the next step and get myself a nice printer. Now it is done. Can't wait to toy with it, thanks for the review !

[@hyun-shik7327]

I just got this for Christmas thanks to your recommendation. I made my first of many things.

[@tranceonline]

Some things he says doesn't sound like he is that much educated in that topic. For example, he says "nice quiet stepper motors" but 90% of the noise of stepper motors comes from their drivers. Meaning, that a really loud printer can get really whisper quiet by just changing the stepper drivers. without touching the motors at all! My first printer was disgustingly loud. Just switching to a "silent-board" made it almost not hearable. Switching to a good 32 Bit board went from quiet to "is it running?" this is just one of multiple examples. I mean, for beginners, its ok. For ppl who are into that for some years... i'd rather watch other YT'ers regarding that topic. still: Love you guys from LTT ;)

[@mklabtech]

I have 3 of these printers for almost 2 years now. Still work pretty good. The only issues are Wifi basically doesn't work unless you find an ideally matching USB dongle and the big row of fans is useless at any possible use case - it blows all over the model, causing deformation from only one side.

[@spivzit8754]

Incredible first impression video you did great. Elegoo as a brand has included a lot of the same features and kit to their last couple of generations of Cartesian printer and that's why i tend to recommend them to new users. Other brands you have to upgrade to get the same features when elegoo just realized that this is what people like. The upgrades on this printer is wild with the speed and rails and I'm quite intrigued. Pla+ had been my go-to material for many years since it's the easiest to print with. It's consistent. It's tough and rigid and I can hold some very tight tolerances when prototyping and making fixtures for the shops I work in. 10/10 all machinists and engineers get in to 3d printing as an additional tool in your belt.

[@byrd3242]

I have wanted to get into 3d printing for years but as a purely tinkering/hobbyist I couldn't justify the $750-$1200 price tag to just fool around. This actually seems like an amazing option worst case it breaks or doesn't last forever I'll know whether I want to invest more, but if not I won't feel like I'm out a significant chunk of change. Thanks for being so open to examining a much more cost effective unit. Even as somebody who knows practically nothing when it comes to printers we all have seen similar units in this price range that are obvious junk.

[@BeefIngot]

My opinion, don't buy one to just dip your toes. See services or your local library till you're sure it's right for you, then don't buy a mediocre dime a dozen bed slinger.

[@antigravityinmotion]

great job Dan🎉 I really like your printer videos 👍 the video so packed full with interesting details, so I don't care its not "short" - it could 2h and would watch it completely🫶 I vote for more Dan videos❤

[@buckminst]

Not only did this video sell me on (and cause me to buy) the Neptune 4 Pro, but it introduced me to Klipper, and sent me down the rabbit hole of converting my Ender-3 Pro over to run Klipper off of a spare Raspberry Pi I have. Good job.

[@philipwolper1339]

Just got this for 150€ on eBay as my first printer. Super hyped to start printing!!

[@SmallDisturbedChild]

I'd love to see Dan do a review of your Voron setups and any mods you might have done, though that being said there is a lot do dive in to with vorons. I have a 350mm Voron 2.4r2 and love it.

[@2nd-place]

My favorite printer is still that Anker Make M5 that you showed us early last year, especially since I got it for the Kickstarter price which was like $400 or so. It was super easy to assemble in like 15 minutes and it's still stupid easy to use and I love being able to remotely monitor my prints. For me that's the closest 3D printing has gotten to mass market. Maybe still another generation or two and I can see way more people buying those. Especially as they develop out the phone app and library to print straight from the phone.

[@dallin9731]

The M5 is an amazing printer from the hardware alone, the software just isnt up to par for what I would expect. Same reason why I am worried for the multi color option later this year. Like you mentioned, updates overtime should improve this, what I am hoping for.

[@elone3997]

Nice review Dan..I have literally no experience of 3d printers so to me they look like pure voodoo..the speed that thing was moving was crazy!

[@DoRC]

The small fan is for hot and cooling the two larger fans on the sides are for layer cooling.

[@NavyDood21]

Man, if I wasnt living off of disability, I would love this printer. Used to have an Ender 5, but just didnt have the time to dedicate to it anymore. I was insanely surprised by the price, expected it to be at least twice that amount. I havent been even looking at printer prices for a few years, it amazes me how much they have fallen.

[@SirSicCrusader]

I have been keeping a eye out for a recommendation for a starter printer, and I may have just found it thanks Dan, you the man etc.

[@Fearox]

Crazy to see how far 3D printers have come.. I bought my first 3D printer 2017/18 for 500€ It had NO heated bed (I think it was a 120€ upgrade part) and no leveling assists.

[@lonesimba]

TBH this one looks a lot like a Ender 3 S1 Pro, it has Z motor sync as well, magnetic HB, nice look, print head connects via just single ribbon cable, but spool holder isn't screwed into frame, just clips. And also it doesn't have Type-A port or internet connectivity, but it doesn't feel too bad, i was planning on repurposing my old Galaxy A8+ into a print server anyways

[@flammablewater1755]

1 hour after this video goes live and we've already hugged the Elegoo site nearly to death.

[@moki2093]

@@monki_sudo you've made 7 comments on this channel and 6 of them are for shitting on it.

[@tophatv2902]

@@monki_sudo dude i have seen you like 3 times on yt on diffrent videos. Go outside

[@AndrewSpeer]

Dan's indifference @ 18:55 is why I love his hosting. Just completely unfazed by the utter chaos of it all.

[@CuttinInIdaho]

The little fan by the nozzle is to keep the heating block from over heating and to keep temperatures within range. The one on the left and one on the right side are for layer cooling with the big blower accompanying those.

[@arthurmint]

this is the best shortcircuit i have ever watch. great video dan :)

[@AnnaBellaBear]

Watching this video where Dan is describing all these cool, in-depth features and all I can think is, "how is this not like $600+" for all these features

[@BeefIngot]

because this is all old poorly implemented stuff on yet another ender clone. Times have evolved and the printer you can get for 600 are miles better in terms of speed and user experience.

[@tophatv2902]

@@BeefIngot no lol is anything remotely similar to ender is a clone now? lets be honest p1p isnt that far off for being twice as expensive and being closed source and possibly unsecure cloud servers unlike this klipper machine.

[@BeefIngot]

@@tophatv2902 Its similar in motion system. Rollers are awful. The P1P is more expensive yes, but I think it's worth it for not having to configure or tune

[@Digitness]

@@BeefIngotnot everyone wants to spend 600 on a printer, especially for their first one

[@BeefIngot]

@@Digitness Its tiring hearing this. Sometimes the minimum level for a good thing is just what it is. Now luckily since then there have been cheaper minimum levels coming out, but it is what it is. Its jot abojt what you think you want. People often simply dont know enough to know what they want. I do, so I share that.

[@VoidOperator]

I pre ordered this thing on day 1. I'll also be buying whatever printer someone makes that i can start prints from my phone while I'm at work. Bonus points for a Android version of Cura, and a slime block flying machine to push completed print off the bed so i can start the next one

[@se77ra57]

its insane to see how far 3d printers have come these past few years and how low the prices have become

[@ZeyadAlmat]

Saw this early on Floatplane, watching it again on YT. Videos hosted by Dan are rewatchable af. Funny, informative, and soothing all at the same time.

[@hazonku]

My first printer was a piece of crap ANET A8 running some random old version of Marlin and it cost me about $170 on sale, back in early 2017. I then dropped another $25 to immediately replace the PSU (which was a known fire hazard). It was basically a bad Chinese knockoff of a PRUSA MK2 with a crappy laser cut acrylic frame. I probably dumped another $250 into it just fixing things & upgrading parts over the years. Being able to get something this amazing for $299 shows how far things have come since then. I definitely my grab this one of the 3 Max for my plastic squirting needs.

[@Wabaloo]

Dan has been the best addition to the on screen ltt team.

[@ekognaG]

Only $300?! That's insane! My ender 3 clone was more than that after some mandatory upgrades. This thing looks awesome and feature complete. Don't really see any upgrades needed out of the box. Only thing I'm wondering is if you can hook up a camera to it.

[@moki2093]

@@monki_sudo this was never a review. shortcircuit makes unboxings and product showcases, not full-fledged reviews. they have said this multiple times in several videos.

[@moki2093]

@@monki_sudo because I've seen you under the replies of multiple comments, often dunking on shortcircuit for "not making real reviews".

[@MrPerfectjake]

This looks a great upgrade than the Neptune 3, which i bought as my 1st 3d printer. Just unboxed my Bambu Labs P1P today, which I bought because of Dan's review.

[@thecyberquake618]

​@@monki_sudo where are you finding a p1s for $400? Neptune 4 Pro is going for $300, P1S seems to be $700 most everywhere I can find it

[@kwedl]

@@monki_sudo For "only" 100 bucks you can buy a bunch of filament rolls though. Most people won't need the P1S enclosure or other small features, if anything since most people just print PLA or PETG you are better off without. Or you can print your own with less money.

[@shanematthews1985]

@@kwedl yeah the enclosure isn't really required unless you plan to print certain materials, as someone only doing PLA I would have to have the door open anyway if it was enclosed, the P1P is a damn good little printer though

[@Dr_Axton]

In case you wonder about a axis rods being belt connected-that’s actually a relatively common thing, especially if you upgrade from one rod to two. It’s made in case only one driver makes two steppers move

[@SiniSael]

yay Dan video!!! The best of LTT - Luke and Linus is cool and all but Dan is the man!

[@joeg1992]

It's Klipper, you can put that firmware on pretty much any consumer printer out there today. I run it on my Creality printers but it won't run on my FlashForge.

[@HartenDylan]

Dan getting excited about cool nerdy shit is dopamine-fuel for sure. More please.

[@Wink_FingerGun]

Waiting for mine to get here. So thankful you guys did a review. Thank you.

[@marcusansell9713]

Really enjoyed the full in depth video great informative content 👍

[@MR-vg7yn]

Honestly, it would be nice to just put the price near the beginning of the video. Yeah, I know, keeping the price question open keeps up the "suspense", but.... for me, it just makes me look up the price of the thing you're reviewing, because I want to put what I see into relation with the price. At $300, although I don't really need a 3D printer and would have to think about where to put it, I'm still tempted. This is pretty amazing.

[@Bh_1989]

If this were a Neptune 4 Plus I’d be buying it immediately. The build plate size is just a touch too small for my preferred needs right now

[@mikekuschka998]

Glad Dan is getting away form the help at the Wan Show. Excellent job. Keep up the good work all. That includes you Terren.

[@theongothic182]

dan is is the second anthony for me, i can listen to this man for hours

[@mirkinzaathnar3167]

"that won't break your bank!" Sir, you have not seen my bank account

[@anmolsinghshekhawat4284]

you guys can make an ltt video for getting started with 3d printer for different budget and proficiency level. can also include a bit about 3d print farm business that people are building now a days. I myself want to start 3d printing but not sure which one to get.

[@BeefIngot]

You want to go to an actual 3d printing channel. You would not benefit from such a video. I promise you.

[@Konigstiger]

I've got a Neptune 3 downstairs chugging away right now, and this is looking like a hell of an upgrade.

[@Gizzer3010]

Honestly, Dan has such dry wit and humour, which I find generally at odds to the rest of LMG, but incredibly engaging. He knows his stuff, doesn’t come across as being “in your face” about knowing it, just wants to share knowledge and enjoys doing it! Great short circuit.

[@xsehrmotiviert]

Looks like Linus isn't the only one who can drop stuff

[@lighthawk95]

My $99 Ender 3 Pro with my own upgrades and Klipper firmware has been one of the best investments I've made in my life, this seems right on par for starting on the next level of that.

[@BeefIngot]

Please please people save yourselves. Do not buy an ender 3 in current year. Heck don't buy this Just buy a Bambulab or Prusa. Edit: You need to understand this isn't some elitist "lol just have more money" comment. With many things in life there are minimum prices for things where under that price its just worth it to save up and get the better thing. I'm telling you exactly what thst better thing is. It costs more but will allow you to just use the printer as a tool for your creativity without fuss in tuning, calibration and failed prints. There is so much more nuance to this I'll just advise you look at the actual experience a typical ender clone has vs the printers I talk about. It's one of those things where if you arent familair with 3d printing it's really hard to get why 2 different machines that look the same (because you aren't really sure what fesutrs matter or what specs mean), you could easily be mislead and end up frustrated. I've seen it enough to give the advice I give. I've experienced 3d printing enough to give the advice I give.

[@TurikoYemontoshi]

@@BeefIngot The ender 3 looks to be priced at 189 new, while the cheapest bambulab is 699 and a prusa mini 459. I don't know much about 3d printing, but i think it'd help if your advice has something to it other than "don't buy X, buy Y which is 2-3 times more expensive". The one featured in this video is 280, which sounds more like the same price range rather than way above it and a lot of people just aren't going to spent 700 for a "trying something out" 3d printer.

[@iambear.6526]

@@BeefIngot I have an Ender 3 pro as long as you're good a things it's fine

[@kwedl]

@@BeefIngot Dude why are you all over the comments recommendig people Bambulabs or Prusa, especially as their first printer. 99% of people will never utilize them or require their features. Most people will even be fine with a Kobra Neo or used SV06/Neptune 3. You keep going on about how nobody knows what they are talking about, but you blindly telling people to buy 700+ dollar printers is just stupid.

[@thecyberquake618]

@@BeefIngot "don't buy this printer, instead get one that is twice the price"

[@MrAlucardDante]

Octoprint also has a Bed Mesh Visualizer plugin. But it’s nice that it’s integrated into fluidd

[@technewb8241]

Ordering it. Thank you, Dan

[@oienu]

That is the first 3D Printer on that style that looks like an actual product instead a DIY kit, very nice OwO

[@interferingpanda]

Dan's voice is the most soothing of all the LMG team and he's always a pleasure to listen to no matter what he's talking about

[@whitetailtherapy7908]

I am still waiting on mine to ship.. i was torn between rolling the dice on a snapmaker idex and then just play it safe with the bambulabs carbon x1...And then the more research i done about this printer i figured build an encloser and Micro swiss said no matter the nozzle they will have hardened ones available.. I think i will be able put together a decent printer capable of doing alot of materials and not spend to much

[@BenJuan26]

25:21 30mm/s is fast? My "regular" print speed on my mostly-stock Ender 3 Pro from like 2019 is 120mm/s. What in the world are you using at home?

[@AzuraTheRock]

We love Dan

[@Jef-F]

Dan can review a booger and I'd still watch it.

[@KonkaBass]

Dan might be my favorite hire of lmg in recent years.

[@МихаилКролевец]

Love me some 3d printer reviews! Would be cool to see some reviews of resin printers!

[@rartolak]

Saturns look pretty neat with what can be done with resin

[@МихаилКролевец]

@@rartolak I do have a Saturn 2 and its a great machine, can recomend! But I am looking to switch to anycubics latest one with autoleveling, since you still need to relevel the build plate from time to time on S2. The ball joint just isnt perfect

[@nata911]

I fuckin love this dudes roll through everything style

[@RumenBlack]

It seems a lot like an ender3 thats just gotten all the upgrades most members of the community recommend. Very cool.

[@МихаилКролевец]

By the way, should we expect a short circuit voron? Would be super cool!

[@TheJustinist]

Voron 24 or no deal

[@matthewswan1873]

Don't stop swearing! I love it. I like hearing reviews by adults... Boiling down reactions to fit delicate sensibilities takes all the flavor out. I'm not sure if any editors or anyone has complained or not, but if they have, tell them I told them to go fuck themselves, this was a great video. Like seeing your take on these things!

[@dallin9731]

I see Dan, I click the like button, it is simple

[@dallin9731]

Also this is amazing for the price, like 300 dollars for all of this? I was expecting 500 at the low end

[@needfuldoer4531]

Dan's quiet chaos is a perfect compliment to Linus's regular chaos.

[@lordv1le859]

If you’re spending this little on a printer just go resin. Sure the print head can go to 300 degrees but it won’t actually be able to print anything that requires those temps well. They say it’ll print nylon, it won’t, at least not well and you’ll require a separate dry box which I hope you’ll be using a whole reel of in a couple of weeks.

[@zeal514]

I have the neptune 2s. and its a great printer. Elegoo really knocks these out of the park, and seemingly release a new printer yearly. Ive modded mine to hell, so i have Klipper, dual Z steppers, and a direct drive extruder from microswiss, so it is pretty much on par with this one, atleast where it matters.

[@the1thatgot_away]

Also it would be awesome to see a list of the best printers at each price point(cheap,budget,mid,premium)

[@alex59292]

sv06 is very good cheap one

[@nemtudom5074]

For 300$ thats insane My printer is an ender 3 non pro non v2 non neo, for 200$, and while its a good enough printer for such a low price, that 100$ jump gives SO MUCH for just a hundred dollars. Mesh bed levelling, good interface, screen that updates fast instead of taking half a second to switch menus If i was getting into 3D printing right now, i'd absolutely buy this over the creality 3's, holy sht!

[@zachmakesstuff1368]

Lmao my thoughts exactly. Why upgrade my ender 3 when I can sell it and for like 150 dollars, have a fully upgraded ender style printer with klipper and everything already put together? I preordered one already and I cant wait for it to come in 1 month!

[@nemtudom5074]

@@zachmakesstuff1368 Now i wish i had money, or a job, so that i could replace mine... In the one year since i've had it its been such a massive pain in my ass with the constant need for a level bed and other issues

[@DrVagax]

Its awesome to see how affordable these 3D printers actually are to get started. For some bargain prices you can now get lightning fast 3D printers (relatively of course) to do some cool printing.