Should All LGBTQIA+ People Be Celibate? | Holy Highball

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If you’re looking for straight answers, this discussion may leave you with more questions than answers. Meet a Pastor who studied the scriptures on homosexuality with his congregation and then changed to be a “welcoming church;” an Orthodox priest who doesn’t marry same sex couples but was one of the few priests who buried the dead at the height of the AIDS epidemic in San Francisco; and a Christian, gay, and celibate young woman who has cofounded a faith nonprofit that offers safe spaces for LGBTQIA+ people to cultivate their faith openly.
To add more complexity to the discussion, according to the Marin Foundation: Us Versus Us: The Untold Story of Religion & the LGBT Community, 86% of LGBTQ+ people were raised in the church, and LGBTQ+ people are open to returning to church at an 8x higher rate than the average American.
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@jenisebrooks4308
@jenisebrooks4308 11 ай бұрын
So what's condemned is the sex right? But there are other aspects of a "relationship" right?
@found151
@found151 Жыл бұрын
I really love this discussion and its setting!
@EllisPepper1999
@EllisPepper1999 Жыл бұрын
As a gay person, thank you for this video, I truly appreciate it. God bless you, God bless us all! 🙏🏻
@frogtownroad9104
@frogtownroad9104 10 ай бұрын
Big respect to the Orthodox padre. May not agree with you but I still love you very much ☦️
@raymarsh4620
@raymarsh4620 Жыл бұрын
What I don't like is when people always attach homosexual celibacy with Christianity (or Islam or Judaism). Being celibate has practical benefits even if you are not religious. I went out into the Gay scene when I was about 18. I was lucky. The first guy that I experimented with was a sleazeball, every-so-often drag queen. We decided to become partners, and on the second weekend he went and hooked up with someone else, and I found out late. I never did anything too serious with him that I could get a disease from - despite his requests. It set me up to be very critical. From that date forward every gay male was thoroughly critiqued. I had very high standards and I always found something wrong with every guy. I have always remained celibate and now that I am older I am glad. I had two permissive friends in my early 20s and both of them ended up dead in their 30s. One of them attempted suicide about 4 months after I first met him. I have always regarded my homosexual appetite as a quirk. Even if other people want to make it the sole fact of my existence. If I had a niece or nephew who had homosexual leanings I would recommend that they remain celibate and be strong. Not for religious reasons, but to protect their mental and physical health, and also to make rational decisions. Never be swayed by a pretty face. Religions are just ideologies. If there is God then apparently he does all that he can to make distance between himself and them. Heterosexual coupling is not holy, it is no different to any animal's instinct to reproduce.
@NewHorizonsBeats
@NewHorizonsBeats Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. Do you ever plan on trying to find a partner or do you want to just remain single forever? I do think it’s possible for gay men to have loving, committed relationships with one another…there is a middle ground between permanent celibacy and hedonism…
@redserv3nt62
@redserv3nt62 11 ай бұрын
If you are a Christian traditional but you happen to be gay you cannot engage in any sexual relationships at all now I would highly just recommend going after non-sexual relationships you can find meaningful platonic relationships and Familiar relationships without sex.You See being Christian means that there are things that You cannot do because the Bible the word of God is against that because we are not of this world we're not Normal people Normal people can have the world our way of life. Involves sacrifice there are things we cannot have there are things we cannot do the world hates jesus and God they're gonna hate us because we follow them and we love them. The truth is not easy for many of us but it is only truth.
@ninjamatt2164
@ninjamatt2164 6 ай бұрын
All I can say is I am trusting in God.
@epaminon6196
@epaminon6196 4 ай бұрын
Same-sex marriage should be the answer. Premarital sex is prohibited in the Bible, after all. And there is no verse that forbids same-sex marriage.
@ninjamatt2164
@ninjamatt2164 27 күн бұрын
If you say homosexuality is a sin because of self pleasure, then you must first pull the plank out of your own eye before trying to pull the splinter out of ours. Hetero marriages who do not want children yet still have sex and elderly hetero marriages where the couple cannot conceive anymore. The Bible could also arguably be against this as self pleasure too. The story of Elizabeth. The law in the Old Testament where a husband cannot have sex with his wife during her menstrual period. The scripture in Isaiah which say “young woman shall dance. And young men, and old as well, shall dance.” So, these two things (based upon these three examples that we can take from the Bible) can also be just as argued as self pleasure as what you argue for homosexuality. “Treat others the way you want to be treated. For this fulfills the law and the prophets.” - Matthew 7:12
@theeunuchpreacher3357
@theeunuchpreacher3357 17 күн бұрын
It's so sad that you have let the devil twist GOD'S WORD in your mind. You need to REPENT and be baptized with the HOLY GHOST! GOD'S SPIRIT can guide you into ALL TRUTH. Find yourself an Apostolic Church to attend and be baptized in JESUS NAME. And the LORD is still baptizing people with the HOLY GHOST! Time is running out. It's time to get right with the LORD before you take your last breath on this earth. JESUS LOVES YOU! So turn to HIM now while you can. Love in CHRIST JESUS, Pastor J.W. Brand (the eunuch preacher). I'll be waiting for you to "spit fire" at me for telling you the TRUTH. But just remember while you're spitting that fire, YOU WILL MEET THE ALMIGHTY GOD ONE DAY! So PLEASE consider repenting now! Time waits for nobody!!
@dansaber4427
@dansaber4427 2 жыл бұрын
You can be LGBT and Christian no problem 👬
@binghamguevara6814
@binghamguevara6814 3 ай бұрын
Get off the internet. You’re movement is gonna tear world peace apart.
@theeunuchpreacher3357
@theeunuchpreacher3357 17 күн бұрын
JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL BRING PEACE TO THE WORLD! It isn't because someone gets off of the internet. JESUS will RULE AND REIGN on this earth for 1000 years, but NOT because HUMANS bring about world peace!! That ain't happening! You're ignorant to GOD'S HOLY WORD! Please take the time to study GOD'S WORD concerning peace on this earth. Pastor J.W. Brand (the eunuch preacher).
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