Should Christians be Smoking Cigars? w/ Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P.

[@allanagravante6593]

"The body is a temple, and temple needs incense" --Michael Knowles

[@ChuckyLarms]

@@davidson1807 how’s your caffeine, sugar, and opioid intake? I understand you have a strong opposition to “vices” but you may want to recenter your logic if you consume other sneaky vices but abstain from nicotine and alcohol. A vice to one does not apply to all

[@ivor9383]

Well, Jesus did drink wine. I think its OK to abstain from things that you find unhealthy, but I dislike bringing it so close to morality. If you feel proud that you're "pure" because you don't partake in unhealthy things, to me, thats more of a sin than having a drink or a cigar once in a while. There's a thin line between having higer standards for yourself out of humility, or out of a sense of superiority.

[@Thedisciplemike]

@Davidson 1 God made wine to make the heart glad. Live a little. "wine that gladdens human hearts, oil to make their faces shine, and bread that sustains their hearts."

[@Thedisciplemike]

@Davidson 1 your argument takes the sanctity and freedom away from the human soul. I agree a balance for each individual must be found. Sometimes this balance is zero for those with addict personalities. But for the majority its not. God gave us this earth. Praise God for tobacco and alcohol

[@Thedisciplemike]

@Davidson 1 and I'll live forever in Christ

[@jameswatkins309]

My church has a men's meeting on a weekday evening every week. There is food and drink, adult beverages if you will, and cigars. Our priest is present and partakes with us. It is one of the things I most look forward to each week. I have found the fellowship shared at these meetings makes our church family stronger. It is also a great way to engage new men into our church and fellowship. In this context the practice is a positive.

[@paulr5246]

That is very good. ☦

[@theburdenissweet5860]

Do you guys have adoration too?

[@mac8179]

Keep it up. Men need this and are incredibly lonely in our modern times. What a great ministry.

[@celtoroma4013]

What a great idea.

[@SnapPeaSam]

My church has an orgry once a month we all get very close and bond with one another, the priest loves it...

[@JWBaSiTo]

“In Catholicism, the pint, the pipe and the Cross can all fit together” - G.K. Chesterton.

[@Emcron]

I think the best argument for moderation is how Jesus himself chose to use wine when instituting the Eucharist, while still counseling against drunkenness

[@TychoTV]

@Davidson 1 Thank you for nipping that nonsense in the bud!

[@Picklespit]

@@davidson1807 what about the wedding at Cana where Jesus turned jugs of water into wine?

[@ten_tego_teges]

@@Picklespit That was my first thought as well!

[@seamusweber8298]

Another reason perhaps for using wine, rather than water, 2,000 years ago could be because water could probably be more contaminated compared to wine, at that time. I would think that water back then was not as hygienic as wine perhaps.

[@TychoTV]

@@Picklespit Wine is the beverage of choice during celebrations in many cultures, which is why alcohol is served at parties. But there is a difference between enjoying alcohol in a social setting, and getting plastered at the open bar. Non-alcoholic fruit juice-based beverages were already available at that time, but they don't stay fresh for long, sometimes eventually fermenting into alcohol. So, it would have been a logistical nightmare to serve them as beverage in huge gatherings. A follow-up question would be, "Why are there jugs of water in an event (i.e., the wedding) where wine is going to be the beverage of choice?" The answer is that the water was used by wedding guests for ritual washing - a habit practiced by other faiths and cultures as well.

[@daltonfinchelt7686]

Most honest and simple video I’ve seen on KZbin in a long time. Just turned 21 and tried my first cigar. I’ve been questioning myself if this is okay to do as a Christian. I can say that cigars are such a different product than the rest, bringing you a sense of calmness and celebration at the same time. I believe in my heart and spirit that gods gifts are given for a reason. These gifts are a form of power and it is up to the person who opens his gifts to decide if they will use it for good or for evil. Satan perverts the blessings and gifts god has given to man.

[@UFChaplainShow]

Revised title: "Incense in the temples of God? A perspective on Cigars"

[@sono_ardian]

Brother I read "Incest?" lol

[@IsraelCountryCube]

@@sono_ardian lol

[@EEEasdfasdc]

Thanks for this video father as a Cuban, Christian, Catholic who love Cigars, Cuba Libre's (rum and coke) going to Church and reading the Catechism.

[@arturorivas4520]

G.K. Chesterton: ''In Catholicism, the pint, the pipe, and the cross can all fit together."

[@pensadorcritico137]

​@@arturorivas4520 Okay so, tobacco is right because it's a plant, but things like masturbation are not right even when it's demonstrated that many ejaculations per week helps to avoid some organic problems. Following your thought process: if tobacco has not affected you and you are not an addict, then every other action, as far as doesn't cause damage in others and you are not addict, would be acceptable as well. I feel like there is a hypocrisy on these discourses.

[@basedleechaobla]

Father Gregory PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a video on the morality of psychedelics and hallucinogenics. There are arguments that drugs like mushrooms such as psilocybin can be used to treat post traumatic stress disorder with veterans or even anxiety, so the same way that opioids can be taken sinfully and therapeutically, does this argument work with those aforementioned substances? Furthermore the morality of taking thinks like DMT or ayahuasca would be great too. Thanks and God bless!

[@ScreamingReel500]

In medicine, they use these numbing effects for pain control and the high/stone effects are removed. For your information, using drug as a goal to get high is not acceptable in the Catholic Church because it alters reality and mental state which lead to permanent damage on the user mental health if prolong use or one-time sexual encounter along with using the drug can cause permanent scar. I was prescribed those drugs with opioid and cocaine and did not get high, so I know the effects are removed but the pain control is retained. I think you want to use the drug and want the priest to confirm in your belief. All these drugs are illegal by most conventional law in the whole world.

[@ScreamingReel500]

Catechism of the Catholic Church #2291: The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.

[@manny4012]

@@ScreamingReel500Is it unacceptable because of the “permanent” damage or because it alters the mind?

[@marcondespaulo]

I wouldn't say it's because it "alters the mind", but in a more proximal sense it dulls the conscience, in a sense making us less human. I liken the conscience to the soul talking to the body. And since we are in a self-deprived state of conscience, I'd say we are culpable of the sins we commit during that time. That has temporal and eternal consequences, such as psychological or psychiatrical problems that can have other lasting consequences.

[@manny4012]

@@marcondespaulo Don’t take this the wrong way but now I feel like you’re adding more criterias. So now I ask. Is it the dulling of the conscious that makes it unacceptable? Though I get that point. You and me both know of other legal substances that do that to a certain degree. Even alcohol, when consumed at a minimal amount, can make us “less human” and it has some effect on the brain. I think you would need to have a strong foundational criteria and draw the line as to when and at what point it’s unacceptable and I think that’s a hard task. As a response for your second part any sins committed during a state of diminished moral consciousness are sinful obviously regardless of whether you are in that state of mind or not. I don’t think the reason you gave is a good one given that it can be applied to any other substances we consume.

[@celtoroma4013]

💯, Hilaire Belloc has a saying: "Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine, There’s always laughter and good red wine. At least I’ve always found it so. Benedicamus Domino!"

[@margokupelian344]

As long as it doesn’t elevate your mood so high that you start behaving or saying things that you usually don’t.

[@fabiolagarzacreates]

Was this before or after we knew it’s medical effects? It’s not much of an argument if it was before.

[@DrGordonS]

The clarity of your discourse is exceptional. Great video.

[@andrewbosela764]

Wow, knew this would be a buckle up episode, and have been very much looking forward to it. Thank you Fradd and Salza for a truly epic discussion.

[@raulchavez6507]

My reasoning for smoking cigars is the following: 1.- It’s a calculated risk, it affects areas that are more easily detectable and treatable and I have checked my lungs to ensure they haven’t been severely affected 2.- It doesn’t take me away from reality, in fact it slows everything down and make me face it in a calm and introspective way 3.- I make sure I’m not addicted to it, I don’t need it and in times I have gone for over 6 months without one ***Bonus: I enjoy smoking cigars. For instance, I practice Enduro MTB and I have been injured since it’s a high risk sport. I could do spinning in a gym instead, but I don’t enjoy it. It would be safer, but it would also take away big joyful rides of my life and enduring pain makes me resilient. For me going for security obsessively is a way I wouldn’t like to live my life. I try to calculate the risks I take, but still enjoy the time God has given me here. Our bodies are a temple and I know it, but joy should be part of every temple. A temple shouldn’t be deprived of joy.

[@alexha2884]

Well said

[@timesiegnature7107]

I’m glad to hear you aren’t addicted! I would point out though to make sure you pay attention to who you smoke around. Secondhand smoke from cigars contains as much carcinogens as cigarettes (some studies say more), which causes health problems in children and pregnant women. Also, apparently there is a thing called “third hand” smoke which I only recently learned about.

[@Jonosecigars]

Love this, well thought and well delivered.

[@FlexCathedrafromIG]

Do people really really have nothing else better to do than to debate whether cigars are simple or not? Thank God for father Pine because I don't have the patient to deal with such scrupulous questions

[@Smartiebob317]

Thank you, Father, for such an informative video. In the 60s, when I was an altar boy, my father was called to the rectory for an electrical problem. We had to go down to the basement to correct the issue. I noticed a "private area" where our pastor would read and contemplate next Sunday's message. He was the most popular priest our parish ever had. Next to the wall was a stand with about 10 pipes and a small humador of cigars. Dad told me it was his business and I should not discuss it with anyone. I did as I was told, and now that I am much older, almost 80 now, I am happy that he enjoyed his pipe and cigars. I am amazed that the commentators here are all over the place. 💨💨

[@haleyfryzelka740]

I see a lot of debate about what substance or activities are sinful and what are fine. The truth is, more important that debating what specific thing is sinful we need to be honest with ourselves about our particular weaknesses. We are quite literally idol making factories. This means anything from cigarettes to alcohol, Marijuana, food, sex (yes even withing marriage) can all be misused. Does it mean they are all inherently bad no not necessarily. What may be my problem ahem (food, particularly sugar) may not be someone else's. Therefore I can't go around telling people who enjoy a little cake once and a while that it's a slippery slope to a bloated life of sin and gluttony. Some may enjoy a small glass of wine every night but that doesn't necessarily mean they are Alcoholics. Where as others might only drink a few times a month but completely overdo it every time. I guess that's how I see all these matters. It starts with personal accountability. If you get busy focusing on what you think others are doing you may let your own faults and addictions get out of hand.

[@raddad2040]

There is an official FDA study on the effects of cigars, definitely worth a read. It states that 1-2 cigars a day, over the long haul, has very minimal health effects as compared to non smokers.

[@JezielProdigalSon]

I operate by the rule, that no drug or substance is sinful in itself, but addiction and the potential bad behaviour that follows from being intoxicated or addicted, is sinful.

[@tyjameson7404]

Your the bomb 💣 brother 🙏🏽👍🏼🙌🏾❤️🥃🌹we Love your old school class and culture 🙏🏽🙌🏾

[@tyjameson7404]

Your so real and educational 🙏🏽🙌🏾❤️👍🏼🥃thank you man of God 🙏🏽🙌🏾

[@autry33]

Great video Fr. and I'm not even Catholic. I appreciate your eloquent take.

[@jdglock9114]

Thank you Father for your explanation around friendship and fellowship. Michael Knowles makes this point.

[@tyjameson7404]

What an epic video 🙏🏽🙌🏾👍🏼🌹❤️

[@phillipoutzen3234]

If we decree no use of alcohol or tobacco, are we not creating for ourselves a Christian Kosher?

[@TheApsodist]

Wow. Powerful

[@azrealmusic3668]

I am not a Christian but I think that one thing that cigars can do especially alone is let you Be more mindful and I liken it to a taking a walk or prayer in what it provides for my mind and like what you said with us being on or phones or constantly doing something we all need time to disconnect from all the day To day things that are constantly coming into our minds

[@nicholassmith3899]

Gandalf clicks the link with trepidation.

[@charlotteanneaton1143]

Pretty sure an angel would know, anyway

[@NickyMetropolis1313]

If i recall onions have carcinogens too when heated.

[@marianweigh6411]

_Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body._ Glad if people can use substances to congregate, open up, and still come nearer to Christ, but I do think we always have to be careful that we're not just making excuses to be like the world. There's a lot of incentive to deceive ourselves in these areas. I know I have, so just speaking from experience. Life is better when it doesn't need artificial flavoring, so to speak. _Do not conform to the ways of the world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind._

[@zerofox7347]

I’m a big fan of nasal snuff myself which has always been used and made in monasteries.

[@JoeyG-o8r]

always? I thought tobacco was a new world plant?

[@kingcreed348]

As a protestant, as long as it doesn't become an addiction, we can partake. It is still frowned upon for us, but meh. Addiction is when its actually an issue because "you cannot serve two masters".

[@constructivecritique5191]

Not what we eat or drink.....consume! It's what comes of it!

[@sirjan-keeperofthevigil]

I think a point often missed in this conversation is second hand smoke. One can choose to abstain from food and drink, but one cannot avoid second hand smoke… aside from not being in its presence. I love good conversation and a good beer as much as the next, but having many family members who have died horrible deaths way before their time due to lung cancer, many never even smoking themselves, just from second hand smoke: I am opposed to smoking because it is more than a personal choice, in most cases.

[@ehudzechariahschmidt7036]

Campfires? Non electric cars? Power plants?

[@leopoldowerner3911]

You should learn to drink mate, like in Argentina. It is an element of communion between friends and it is healthier. Blessings!

[@ChuckyLarms]

Using principal of vice and mind altering substances, that means caffeine, sugar, nicotine, alcohol, opioids, and many more are ALL of the table. Most would disagree with this (outside of Mormonism) and would subscribe to time, place, and moderation

[@danhallett4952]

Swimming too then, good seasoned and flavorful food, working out, reading. All vices

[@Klklk181]

No and tell your friend in that PintswithAquinas he’s setting a bad example. Treats the temple as if it’s his.

[@ehudzechariahschmidt7036]

Why do you say that?

[@CheetahToast]

@@ehudzechariahschmidt7036 because some Christians love to cast the first stone.

[@ehudzechariahschmidt7036]

@@CheetahToast clearly

[@teddyboy252]

My weakness or addition s is coffee

[@annew-mcmxli5857]

Father, I'd be happy to hear you talk about door knobs or grass growing 💜

[@BigFamilyGaming]

Watching while I puff on a Cigar (Camacho triple Maduro)

[@Moresco24]

Christian here switching from cannabis vapor to help my stomach issues to finding non psychoactive cbd chew pouches and enjoying cigars is much better.

[@silveriojohnson9401]

Please clarify for me: you're not saying that the spirit is > the body, right? It's my understanding that in the Catholic Church that the body *is* me; that what it means to be human is to be a body with a soul (spirit). So in that regard, the body should be tended to health wise just as much as the spirit.

[@TheApsodist]

The spirit is superior to the body and the body must be subdued to the spirit. But man is body and spirit together. But in this combination the spirit is the higher part. Angels are higher in nature than man, who is higher in nature than animals.

[@jdglock9114]

Matt Frad is an avid cigar smoker. 👍🏻 The world and the Catholic Church has “bigger fish to fry” than cigar smoking. The world is smoking on fire right now. And in some places, so is THE CHURCH. We need Fatima.

[@ellobo4211]

With cigars and glass of scotch..In moderation..simple answer..

[@joelhall5124]

No. Everyone should be.

[@pl8154]

In my opinion, 'studies' about the longterm illeffects of a consumable substance has little to no place in a moral context. I realize people will say that 'not knowing if something is unhealthy excuses the use, but after it does not', but this is also a very thin Moral perspective. The true moral context should be restricted to the spiritual and subsequent psychological domain. If it may have a deleterious physical effect on ones health decades down the road doesn't make it immoral. If that were the case even being out in the sun without being plastered with sunscreen would be a sin, so stop with the 'studies' already. What really matters is if a substances can be harmful to the human Soul and change one's perception, perspective and values, as well as reducing one's God-given safety net- inhibitions and shame. Substances that do this ARE immoral and dangerous to the soul. Tobacco is NOT among these substances, although alcohol, (like abusing any other substance), can be immorally abused. You did a nice job of threading the needle here on this topic and remained within the Moral domain.

[@mccra9480]

Exposure to the sun and tobacco are two different things and cannot be compared. The sun and its light is God-made and is vital to life. Cancer-causing sunlight is somewhat man-made due to the thinning of the ozone layer caused by human polution. Cigars on the other hand, is man-made. It has ZERO health benefits, in fact it is carcinogenic. God in his intelligence made it that way... because spiritually, it has the same effects. It is an indulgence that leads to other spiritual temptations both for the user and the people around the person seen using it. So if it does not make us holy, causes other to be tempted or sin, and does not help grow the kingdom, it should be done away with.

[@pl8154]

@@mccra9480 You know, you sound just like a Calvinist. Tobacco and sun light are not the same and I didn't 'compare' them as such. I think you totally missed my point, and apparently the point of the man's video too. Best wishes.

[@t3br00k35]

Please could you do a video on the morality of creating and maintaining a podcast on KZbin.

[@sasukeCS7]

Why would that need a video? There is nothing immoral about that as long as you are not promoting actual sins in your podcast.

[@TheDareD3vil]

@@sasukeCS7 I think that’s the point. He’s using an example to display how silly it is to even ask the question about cigars.

[@mark-be9mq]

The casual cigar & wiskey has been a thing in conservative circles recently. They're fine as a private thing w a friend. But the "glorification" of them as signs of the Cultured Conservative Catholic man is a bit overblown even a virtue signal thing. Especially publicly. And there not cheap anymore. A beer & an old friend does just fine. In my humble opinion, anyway.

[@JoeyG-o8r]

Yea I've tried to get into both to see what the buzz is about (no pun intended) but I just don't get it. Whiskey only starts tasting good after I start getting drunk off it and cigars sometimes are okay but leave my mouth tasting like death for a day.

[@ResidentWiseacre]

“Cigars rule” - Resident Wiseacre

[@NicholasJoseph1]

Better insight on the subject in this video from 2 weeks ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6GmnZusa7udqck

[@Ghanaba23]

Who created the plant?

[@MegaDaxter95]

Mark 7:14-23 and 1 Corinthians 10. Its pretty cut and dry if you study Gods word

[@chosen2865]

I think it’s fine provided you couldn’t care less about your witness.

[@alexrdy1986]

Everything he said can be applied to marijuana at a low level of consumption. So I disagree.

[@leonardorosato1361]

No, because marijuana alters perception.

[@Scb30476]

Marijuana and cigars are not the same marijuana will make you do crazy things cigars won’t 😊

[@alexrdy1986]

@@leonardorosato1361 as much as alcoholic beverage which he just defended together with the cigars.

[@drewwilson6639]

Theyre not even in the same ballpark

[@15walkingaway]

Some treat their body as a temple. Others, an amusement park.

[@jameschin1786]

Hi Fr. Gregory. I didn't expect you to reveal about your smoking cigars. It actually comes as quite a shock to me but truly appreciate your seemingly nonchalant demeanour while revealing about it. I have an awful next door neighbour that chainsmokes cigarettes every day. Cigars are not the same as cigarettes as you've explained but the smell is still off-putting. Plus my mom has respirational issues largely due to inhaling 2nd hand cigarette smoke from this inconsiderate neighbour. Sorry to be frank but I think it will be much more difficult to abstain from e.g. masturbation than from smoking cigars. If masturbation is a mortal sin, then why isn't smoking cigars even considered a sin? God bless.🙏🙏

[@ehudzechariahschmidt7036]

It's not a sin. It's moderation vs excess

[@daug1783]

Coffee or coffee and cigars

[@javablossom]

Smoke if you want, just don't promote or show it in videos. We don't need to encourage others in unhealthy habits. Having it in videos glamorizes it.

[@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG]

No.

[@johncopper5128]

Thank you.

[@thossi09]

For my part, marijuana is only "bad" because it's been made illegal. Well, in my part of the world, anyway. Consumed with temperance, it's hardly worse than e.g. whisky or calvados. Yes, if you're downing a bottle of scotch every day, there's a problem - if you're every day too drunk to drive safely, there's a problem. But sharing a bottle of port with a good friend on one Saturday a month and having a good chat (the sort of "open-hearted" chat most of us 40+ guys can only have after a few drinks), where's the harm? Now, I've not had the chance to enjoy the weed, so I might speaking with the lower end of my digestive tract - but is there a big difference? One thing to be stoned every day of the week, but completely different if it's something people do maybe once a month, and then only to a limited extent. Again, I'm comparing it with alcohol - one thing to be skull-drunk every day, and another thing entirely to be tipsy and slightly "loose" one or two Saturdays a month. And - of course - some sort of grayscale between the extremes, there.

[@apracity7672]

Would you also consume crack cocaine and heroine in "modest" quantities?

[@addpoke1]

Marijuana is a sin because it's a severe offense to your neighbor's nostrils.

[@thossi09]

@@apracity7672 Is there a "modest" quantity for those substances? Also - before heroin, there's opium - heroin is a more refined opium, as far as I know. Same for crack cocaine. There's the leaves of the coca plant, where cocaine is derived. Crack cocaine is one step further. So you're right - there's no justification for distilled alcohol anywhere in the Bible. Heroin and crack cocaine are distilled versions of their "natural form".

[@thossi09]

@@addpoke1 Bro, there are worse smells. Come to Iceland on St. Thorlak's mass (23 December) and enjoy the smell of fermented skate...

[@femaleKCRoyalsFan]

You know what they use marijuana to make “goodies “ and there have been children end up in the hospital recently because they ate some of those “goodies” laced with marijuana!!!

[@hglundahl]

6:59 If one or more networks around one are actively trying to shape their and others' reception of what one does against one's goals, is one _still_ responsible for the reception in that case?

[@stevengiacobbe9100]

It seems in so far as they are successful, yes. We are seemingly responsible for the reception. If the reception is the way it is because of some influence, it's still the reception.

[@hglundahl]

@@stevengiacobbe9100 Yes, it is still the reception, but the question was, is one still responsible for it? Or are _those committing that influence_ then responsible of it?

[@jpg6113]

First let's freaking go!!!

[@DanielKolbin]

No, it ruins our "temple". What's so complicated?

[@ehudzechariahschmidt7036]

Lol incense is burned in temples. Besides, if you're so worried about consuming things that are harmful to your body because your body is a Temple, then you shouldn't cherry pick tobacco. You need to stop stuffing your face with donuts and pizza and stop chugging Sprite.

[@brexu]

Hi! Would you say that an e-cigar is more "healhy" than a normal one, if no then why?

[@ketruc485]

No, cause it is actually a liquide that sticks to the lungs far greater than the smoke of tobacco leaf. imo

[@alphacharlietango969]

Catholics should not drive a Lexus?

[@droidix]

I was confused by the wealth aspect as well, but my wife pointed out that their order takes a vow of poverty, so in that context it makes sense.

[@pensadorcritico137]

Okay so, tobacco is right because it's a plant, but Marijuana is not right, even when tobacco ALSO affects the brain. And masturbation is not right even when it's demonstrated that many ejaculations per week helps to avoid some organic problems. Following your thought process: if tobacco has not affected you and you are not an addict, then every other action, as far as doesn't cause damage in others and you are not addict, would be acceptable as well. I feel like there is a hypocrisy on these discourses.

[@jerjes1999]

Yes

[@WesNG]

oh come on now! What about ADDICTION? Nicotine is a highly addictive, psychoactive substance. Willingly risking or developing addiction is a sinful behavior.

[@fabiolagarzacreates]

Not to mention long term ramifications, including problems with fertility.

[@pintswithaquinas]

but it does look cool, C'mon.

[@alqoshgirl]

Agreed! My husband, brothers and father are perfectly capable of being fun and social without alcohol or tobacco. There is seriously something wrong with you if you need that to be a fun person 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@StevenRabanal1997]

​@@fabiolagarzacreates are there fertility issues in men who average two cigars or less a month, have no cigarettes, and are relatively healthy and fit?

[@JoeyG-o8r]

@@alqoshgirl I can have fun without those things and also have fun with them...

[@jesussotelo4775]

"The body is a temple, and it needs incense" Michael Knowles

[@TF80s]

That's arrogant self worship imo...

[@jesussotelo4775]

@@TF80s That's all it is,just your opinion and nothing more.

[@TickleMeElmo55]

@@jesussotelo4775 Same can be said about yours and Knowles.

[@ScottHans]

@@TF80s except it's backed by the letters of Paul

[@fabiolagarzacreates]

Oh good glory. A temple doesn’t get cancer and incur problems with fertility.

[@bradleypenner8681]

Karl Barth smoked a pipe religiously. Be like Karl Barth.

[@sophiewhite3140]

What would you suggest as a similar activity for women?

[@femaleKCRoyalsFan]

Don’t touch anything with nicotine. It will destroy your life and health

[@Pickelhaube]

Drinking wine

[@mrscharmless]

Coffee

[@jacksparrow1057]

cigars and pipes

[@anthonyhulse1248]

Chewing tobacco

[@christopherconey732]

What about chewin' tobacco y'all?

[@brianharris6437]

Cigarettes < Cigars < Pipes < Snuff

[@jesseharkonen2006]

[@Lusitano-ln6od]

Cigarillos

[@samuelguerrero6426]

First

[@METALITHrevetments]

If there was ever a pointless video this is it.

[@tomgreene1843]

Is it almost trivial....I don't live in the States.

[@MUISHAGGY572]

🤣

[@MUISHAGGY572]

I think they're running out of ideas for videos.

[@exerciserelax8719]

I thought it was interesting.

[@Thedisciplemike]

What's more pointless, the video or the time you chose to waste clicking and watching and commenting? I'm sure many people will find this video useful. The world doesn't revolve around you

[@tomgreene1843]

A major moral issue ?

[@bigdawg6404]

I stopped smoking cigars cold turkey. I don't think Jesus would approve of ruining the temple

[@BibleTumper]

I sin unwillingly every day. I know that I do. I either sin in thought word or deed. What is not of faith is sin. I'm just reminded that I'm still in this body of sin, I'm in this wrestling match between the flesh and spirit. Even though I might, on occasion, have a cigar. I wasn't justified in my flesh but by faith alone in Jesus Christ. Could I live a life 100% consecrated to God? No, the sinless Son of God, Jesus Christ, had accomplished that. So, how should I, as a Christian, should then live? I believe that I, as a Christian, should know that I've been saved, justified by faith in Jesus Christ in accordance to 1Cor.15:1-4; Eph.2:8,9, Eph.1:13, KJV. In my flesh, I serve sin and know the difference. Some sins are detestable to me. There are some sins I wouldn't tell my mother about. There are sins that I will never let go of. I'm not justified and on my way to heaven because of some I have done, not doing, or about to do. I'm justified by placing my faith totally in what Christ did for me at the cross for my salvation and eternal life.

[@ImperatorZor]

We have a Lung Cancer advocate.

[@JimJamJuicy]

A cigar is a drug in my view, I don’t think it’s in Gods plan for our life to use drugs

[@ehudzechariahschmidt7036]

How is it a drug?

[@JimJamJuicy]

@@ehudzechariahschmidt7036do you don’t know that nicotine is a drug? It’s more addictive then heroin

[@JimJamJuicy]

@@ehudzechariahschmidt7036 nicotine is an addictive drug did you not know?

[@Tex_Killer]

Fr. doesn't seem to breath very well

[@t3br00k35]

This is a poorly judged idea for a video.

[@sasukeCS7]

How so?

[@LizzyAlexis]

Agreed. Why promote drug use in a current era of addiction and overdose especially amoung youths? Not a wise choice.

[@tabbennett4254]

Should anyone be watching this channel??? NO!

[@marthatredwell1534]

Lol OK 0

[@marthatredwell1534]

9

[@woutermortier2771]

No because god doesn't exist so sin doesn't either 💁‍♂️

[@christiandpaul2022]

You are going top linger in limbo for eternity which is similar to a billion times every grain of sand in the world.

[@woutermortier2771]

@@christiandpaul2022 got any proof of that claim or is it because the bible says so? Are you aware the book is the claim and not the proof? Anyways, what would be the difference between hell, heaven or in between. Eternity of anything without a way out sounds like torture to me.

[@Thedisciplemike]

Bro what are you doing watching a Pints with Aquinas video on cigars if you don't believe in God?

[@johndouglas4826]

So theft, lies, murder, rape and pedophilia are cool too? Oh Christ have Mercy

[@woutermortier2771]

@@Thedisciplemike I love a good word salad from time to time. Fr. Gregory Pine is very eloquent but makes no sense at all.