Should First Strike Be Banned?

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[@corwinclark4139]

"why don't fields focus on higher quality masks For rentals?" I think crappy uncomfortable fogging masks are worse than a spyder with co2

[@devonfoley8801]

At my field, osg they use emeks for rentals

[@carsontodd9267]

JT rental masks are cheap for fields, come apart easy, easy to clean (can hose it all down). Its just easier to clean and reasemble.

[@toade1583]

So true

[@themadkraken1912]

Heh, my field has spyders with co2 (opus) and cheap JT masks! :(

[@maximusmele403]

Kernel Kraken mine has 98 customs and Ethas for the premium package both with Jt masks and compressed air, pretty good

[@trevorthomas9126]

I feel like paintball as a whole is suffering. Local shops are in decline, most fields have field paint only rules, thus starving local and online sales. As for FSR, it has advantages in accuracy, but terminal ballistics are no more dangerous than round ball. They chrono at the same speed and break on impact. My only issue with them is the severe lack of biodegradability. Magfed is the sport slowing down to smell the roses. Much like the resurgence in pump play. Embrace it!

[@rickisantos459]

Trevor Thomas idk about ur local shop but mine definitely loves me and our community 😊

[@gunfuego]

my issue with fsr is that they are $80/250. That just doesn't fit my play style, and besides a good barrel even without inserts and good paint would give you the same results...

[@Tyler-ts2ld]

Every field I’ve ever played at, even in the early 2000’s had a “field paint” only rule.

[@bombsawaylemay770]

The China Virus experiment made paintball more popular

[@Kingston_James1]

They are more dangerous than roundball. I have permanent scars on my neck and shoulder from them ripping through a hoodie and t shirt under it and the plastic slashing my skin open.

[@hazerinfante5592]

I’m so tired of the ignorance in the paintball community and I’m really passionate about this. I’m going to explain to you why the paintball world is imploding. As noted in the comment by Alabaster Slim, Rentals are the bloodline of paintball. And the reason why? “Because that’s how it’s always been” For real. You mean to tell me your business practice of segregating players doesn’t already fracture your chances of more success? Nevermind the fact that rentals is usually referring to a group of people. And since rentals have to play with rentals you need a crowd to have any fun. Once the crowd has had their fun and leaves, catch the owner rubbing his hand on the influx of cash like a fly on shit. .... cause that’s it. Little Richie’s birthday is only once a year, so you better hope Richie’s friends have the same idea for their birthday. You gotta understand the average person hasn’t been invited to the paintball world as early as we were. Ask any self equipped: What drew you into paintball? The cool colors, the tactical gameplay (well, speedball is another story), decking out your gear? The fear of getting shot, the thrill of shooting to kill... its real life call of duty what is there not to like? The thing is, what do rentals consist of? A flimsy, soggy, J-flex mask and a crusty Tippmann 98 with so much paint stripped it needs to put on a bathrobe. The paint? priced to gouge the wallet. priced to say “this is my entire profit margin” Priced so dumbfoundedly high it needs to pull over and take a cold shower because it got me making up words like dumbfoundedly. And don’t even lie it made sense when you read it. FFS, I’ve heard players limiting their shooting so as to NOT burn through a case.... So we have right here two of the many major problems paintball is facing. 1. Segregation of players 2. Egregious ammo prices ... Stay tuned as I am making a channel dedicated to Paintball! You’ll know who I am when I quote this post.

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

Let me know when you upload I'll make sure to check it out.

[@collegepenetration1968]

Hazer Infante that’s the reason kids are getting into airsoft. If there were rental mag fed markers kids would recognize it from the game and think “Holy shit I love this gun from *yatayata* game. Fuck I would love to play live action search and destroy or team death match myself with a paintball type 89 I would buy myself.

[@toxic1698]

Hazer Infante Call of Duty is the cancer of the gaming world that was a really poor comparison, but otherwise I agree with most of your points.

[@MadM0nte]

Good comment, a lot of field owners are very tenuous in their commitment to the sport.

[@anikidwolfy]

you are so right, i turned to airsoft mostly due to price of paint, i still like paintball but will only play once a year or even less (local sites are £6 per 100 and will not allow any paint on site except their own, thats people who have their own markers)

[@Alabasterslim]

FSR: Never ever with rentals. So generally walk-ons: no FSR, I've been at one walk-on game that allowed them, but there weren't any first timers and all the players were down with it. Think more of a private game than a walk-on. Renters are the bread and butter of this industry - they are the ones the bring the money, not us gun owners. You want them coming back again and again.

[@vtek8383]

im sorry my friend but in canada , québec city we play whit that ammo !!!!!! this is the best paintball ammo,,,, but oky oky i love the pouder ball also !!!!!!!!!! nooooooooooooooooooooo d'ont think is a not godd ammo !!!! look my phenom mkp2 love fst roud lololol and full auto is unbeliveable sensation to shot my ennemie whit this round!!!!! but is expensive ammo!!!! but you know 1 shoot one kill buddy !!!

[@thesoutheastspartanspaintb7990]

I agree with slim, it's the rentals that look at us with own gear and go wow and give them somthing to be excited about, I kinda look at it like going to the gym. Push to hard to soon you get hurt at probably won't go back..

[@twoscoops5197]

FSR users are never the problem in my experience. I'd bet 10/10 new players would rather take a single (or even two) FSR than half a dozen round balls from one of the numerous speedballers (or trigger happy scenario players) tearing through the walk on games. Nothing is scarier as a new player than having $100 worth of paint shot at you as the guy runs up and clears out your bunker. Respectfully, it's narrow minded to suggest that FSR would deter new players when they're already playing in such an environment.

[@pancakebuffalo.gaming]

I have no issue with FSR around renters, however on average speedballers are the ones killing the experience from what I've seen. Nothing against any of em, just noticed in my experience that the overshooting and crazy high rate of fire is the biggest demoralizer for newbies.

[@Trashcankicker.]

I abuse my power with the rentals . I make them know who I am without them asking for my name . Just like John wick .

[@2aamerica329]

I think FSR should be legal and rental players are not the only steady money. If you are worried about rental people police overshooting with speed ball palyers.

[@stumpydlugi8723]

Very true, it literally makes me want to run first strikes to stay away from the speed baller that dumps his hopper into everyone

[@gjergjcamaj5770]

Yeah because rentals going up against speedball players is any better? I've seen rentals always leave the field because speedball players will overshoot.

[@scottsanderson8855]

Gjergj Camaj if i plau wiyh retails ill bring out my old school pumps! And communicate with the team! Always have a blast with the retail players

[@Tommy-gk6bh]

Gjergj Camaj I remember my first time going I was bunkered and shot 12 times in my back. I didn’t want to go back after that day but I did cause I ain’t no bitch. But for a lot of other people, getting bunkered that hard can be pretty traumatic.

[@AlexADHD]

The speedball players I see going up against rentals are usually people who don't actually PLAY speedball, they just have speedball gear and like shooting rentals rather than having fun. Anyone I know or have met who actually plays speedball and has gone to a rental field usually dies down their playstyle to match rental players so everyone has a good time. Stuff like only using single shots, running around, etc. Honestly though it isn't even speedball players that always has me worried when playing with rentals or people I bring, it's the guys with the scenario guns who decide "hey you know what? There are a ton of rental players, I'm going full auto." Many people I know personally were turned off from paintball after being in games with these kinds of people (who are usually also the ones who shoot you dozens of times when you are already out).

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

Did I miss something?

[@gjergjcamaj5770]

Paintball Ruined My Life, I just find it silly people want to ban first strike rounds. Like magfed is already at a disadvantage of pretty much every aspect of paintball. While speedball players constantly ruin the game for many new comers time and time again.

[@yunggolfcart6751]

FSR doesn't necessarily hurt more than roundball. They're both chronoed at the field legal velocities. The only difference is FSR maintains that velocity longer since it's actually aerodynamic so it just feels like getting shot up close with roundball, which if you're playing close quarters, it still really isn't any different.

[@thumpertx1]

Yung Golfcart FSR hurts far more than round ball at cqc ranges. Mainly due to the plastic on the back of the ball. I usually don't bruise too bad with round. The bruises typically go away within a week unless it was an extreme overshooting or hot shot. Now with FSR at close range, it's completely different. The pain, while not horrid, is much higher. Anytime I take an FSR at close range, my skin is imprinted by the fins. The bruises lasts for 3 or 4 times as long and is a lot more sensitive. Is this a reason to ban them? Not even in the slightest. They are not dangerous unless shot over the legal limits, but so are round balls. So really not much of a difference between the two. Plus, with fSR you won't get hit with much more than a couple at s time due to how damn expensive they are.

[@Bert439]

FSR holds it velocity more consistent than any roundball.

[@yunggolfcart6751]

Garrett Luttman I suppose it depends on what you're wearing too and if you're expecting it or not (adrenaline factor). I've had both roundball and fsr hurt pretty much equally at cqc. You're point is valid though

[@rodneyritchie8846]

the front of first strike is plastic not the same as a paintball

[@carsontodd9267]

I'm a magfed player. They hurt more. Not alot more. But a bit more. As aforementioned the velocity is consistent longer, but the shell is alot harder than say GI one star.

[@alifeoncechris]

Field I work at switch to 4 star paint last year and just bought 250 emeks

[@JMW-vo9cf]

Combat zone?

[@Trashcankicker.]

And perhaps they charge an arm and a leg just to play for 30 minutes haha .

[@alifeoncechris]

OSG paintball. In NH. We didn’t increase our prices at all, better guns mean people have a better time and want to come back which means more money. We actually have one of the highest return rates in paintball.

[@Tommy-gk6bh]

I think fields should start utilizing a “first strikes only” gameplay since the field I go to separates the rentals from the gun owners on the speedball field. Not sure if this is already a thing or how you would go about it but I feel like separating the players in certain games would improve the beginners experience. Edit: Yeah apparently other fields are doing that, so everyone can be happy. They can have like mixed games on the big fields but also have advanced games on like the speedball field and also have rental only player games too there as well. Idk I really think it’s effective.

[@jarrodpurcell9061]

I just haven't seen enough people utilizing first strike to really do this.

[@jeremiahsage9986]

I think a big reason people buy paintball guns in Dicks is because they want to get into paintball but don’t know any better. I worked at Academy for a while and I had tones of questions from people looking to get into the sport but didn’t know the first thing.

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

That's very true 👍

[@gunfuego]

lol I remember hearing stories about how the Tippmann smg 60's and 68's were banned on some fields back in the late 80's early 90's cause they were fully automatic and back then everyone had pumps lol til Bud Orr changed that ;)

[@reignick1133]

First strikes unless you're running a VERY specific mag fed set up , really does not present that much of an "advantage". With such a set up it does, but you're limited on ammo being mag fed I do agree with the idea of keep it away from rental groups, But I have never had a problem facing down mag fed F.S. wielding players with my mech markers even in large scenario play. Sure they get nice range and look very "flash" but just long balling or reliance on equipment =/= skill . In scenario games good use of cover, fast movement to said cover, good teamwork , communication and being sneaky pays off dividends Vs. those whom think their gear makes them better.

[@danpit2001]

lol 20 years ago i bought a rifled barrel for my tippman 68 yes 68 cause i was dumb and didnt realize the mechanics but i have used it ever since to great effect does it help? probably not but it is my "lucky" rig so ill keep using it . its funny i have had great electric markers and right now i have a mac dev which is great but for anything but speedball its my good old tippman 68 with the 18 inch rifled barrel (cant lie i even speed ball with it too)

[@savagemustelid421]

#PBQT add to that list for field owners: Upgrade your masks! Or at least replace bad lenses more often. If you cant see, it doesn't matter what kind of gun you have or paint your shooting.

[@chriskerwin3904]

Dude, I haven't watched your videos in monthes but, the Video quality overall is much better. I'm really impressed.

[@ashravenpb]

The one other exception to the rifled barrel not working is the MCS shaped projectile (still isn't released, but looks promising) which has a foam ring around the outside to catch on the rifling

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

They have been talking about those things for like 6 years now.....still waiting.

[@ashravenpb]

They have shown them on some of their Facebook live streams and have said that they're getting close to a finished product

[@shattdbb]

Having played magfed against first strikes I can see why some people may want to ban them as they can seem a bit unfair at times but I personally do not think they should be banned. Now as some people have discussed here there is etiquette when playing with rentals and just as I do not allow speedball players to ramp on rentals I would not allow a magfed player to use FS on a rental (unless the rentals are fine with it of course).

[@ajl278]

Just got into paint balling a month ago after some friends, gf, brother, and I went for my bday (all essentially first time players using rental emeks). There was one player there who had FSR and was an extremely nice guy. He did mostly round ball for the day but did rock some FSR for some games. He had range but wasn't unbeatable. My brother got him out in one game just being sneaky and patient. I can see how FSR could be divisive in rec games, esp. vs cheaper rentals, but think overall it can have a place in rec ball. If guns that fire over 10 bps are allowed in rec then I see no problem allowing FSR too. Personally I was little more scared of the rapid fire markers than the FSR. I like that you can have snipers, even if I'm against them. It requires using tactics to win which is some of the most fun- come up with a plan and execute. Most players aren't going to spend the extra $$$ on FSR for casual games too, so I don't think it will get out of hand in most situations. It's also part of the refs job to balance the teams, so hopefully they put the FSR player with all the renters. I'm new to the sport, but that's my two cents.

[@SnepBlepVR]

The paintball feild CQB in Canada actually was a major player for Mag fed guys and first strikes but they suffered where it came to renters because the fields where small towns one day I want to own a feild that is ONLY mag Fed including rental equipment just everyone has the same stuff and no hoppers..

[@luislongoria6621]

1st time on a PaintBall field with a rental, and it was bad enough getting shot in the back by 6yr olds, then the guy with the First Strike T15 decides to snipe me as the biggest target other than him!

[@luislongoria6621]

Also got shot in the bag as I didn't wear an athletic protector. PaintBall indeed!

[@juanzulu1318]

Re: rifled barrels. I agree to ur explanation in regard to smooth bore barrels. There need to be some squeezing. But this is true for FS rounds as well. I highly doubt that FS rounds can be squeezed that much to reach a spin via rifling.

[@WhoIsSea.]

The biggest issue is ramping, burst modes, and full auto. My local fields only allow semi auto in scenario. This is the way it should be. Furthermore, I think ramping has also slowly deteriorated the professional level too. One more skill factor which should be present in the sport, not given (or bought).

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

Agree with semi and rentals. pretty sure most fields are semi only, at least all the ones I know.

[@deadlyEuphoria420]

I rock the mag fed :) 20 round mags

[@jaredhall268]

Look up the Magnus effect. Rifeling absolutely can not what so Ever help a round ball.

[@Tommy-gk6bh]

Jared Hall if anything adding an extra spin on roundball makes it less accurate

[@gdeisig]

I always use to argue with my buddies over this one... I had a cmi thunderpig truflight barrel. (Which was straight rifled) These barrels are great, the balls tend to come out with zero spin in any direction, so they were always consistently accurate. But my friends thought it was stupid and swore by twist rifled barrels. I always thought this was dumb. It's basic physics, if you spin a ball, it curves. So why would you want that? But some believe that a slight controlled spin was better than no spin at all. Apparently during the civil war, some muzzle loaders used a slight rifling with round balls to great success. I don't know if this is historically accurate or not. I would figure they would be using mini balls in the rifles, not round balls. In my testing with a smooth bore, straight rifled and twist rifled barrels, I always put the straight rifled barrel on top and the twist rifled barrel dead last. You want to put spin on a ball? Buy an apex tip. Those things are just freaking cool and simple, and you can control the direction of the spin. (To some extent)

[@t0n3mapls43]

Grant Deisig the only spin I could imagine that would be beneficial would be the backspin that flatlines give

[@gdeisig]

T0n3ma PLS, yes I agree. For distance backspin is a must. The only bad thing is that if your balls aren't PERFECTLY round. The balls never get perfect backspin and veer off to one side or the other. I have the apex tip and my friend has the flat line on his A5. And the apex seems to be more accurate. Probably just because of the two totally different methods used to put backspin on the ball.

[@gdeisig]

SicSemperEvelloMortemTyrannis TyrannyEnder, In my opinion? It was for the invention of the mini ball, not round balls. But history says otherwise. I've never shot one to see how well they work with a round ball.

[@SnepBlepVR]

Rifled barrels and round munitions have always been a weird subject. In certain firearms yes a round ball in a rifled barrel can be super accurate (example the Kentucky long riffle originally used to be a ball shooting riffle and extended its shooters capabilities up to 4 times longer a paintball however is squishy and therefore does not make for a good riffle ammo

[@mst1k976]

oh forgot to mention love your vids, good job on being as unbiased as you can be, and your dedication to paintball is genuinely appreciated. Wish Utah still played speedball but finally found a group that plays weekly Im stoked to be back to the sport i love and missed for to many years because of poor life decisions. Keep up the good work.

[@potatokilr7789]

it should be allowed for hammer 7’s or any other fsr pump action marker, or fsr marker with no capability of firing fast, because even with fs rounds, the hammer 7 is still a nightmare to use.

[@iamcondescending]

I think the problem with first strike is: people get into magfed, and think "I'm going to run first strike!" And just go to their next big game running one marker with FS. Then they go into areas (like at the field near me PRZ) where there's a lot of cqb, or they rush other players. Few people are willing to spend the money on a sidearm. I feel like if I was running an event, I would require people running FS, to also run roundball in a sidearm. As well I would tape their FS marker to identify it.

[@PeteDetails]

You’re forgetting the huge handicap of fs, they must be mag fed. That itself is a huge force balancer. Industries die when there’s no innovation. Whether new ideas are successful or fail doesn’t matter, rifled barrels and shaped rounds have just given proved advantages

[@adventuresingamejumping4745]

What my local field does is if you’re using paintballs and first strike rounds they make you always chrono To the first strike around but there are only a few of us even using them and out of that group it’s mainly Meg Fed players and as for rental players I always thought that the tippmann A5 would be the perfect marker for rental place has a built-in hopper and every time I go to play paintball I always have my A5 in my bag as my back up sometimes even use it as my main

[@JLMtime]

I hear the renters always talk about how in-accurate their markers are basically none of the balls go to the same locations. So its impossible to aim & adjust your shot. I think the barrels start to corridor & without porting to stabilize the ball its an impossible combinations make them never want to come back

[@patrickcorcoran4828]

I worked at a woodsball field from 99-04 and we included gun cleaning in the safety talk. When working as a ref I always had a squeegee on me. I'd squeegee rental guns during the game and ask the renters between games if they noticed their shots curving or any balls breaking in the barrel. As a player I have NEVER seen another commercial field tell renters how to clean their barrels. Most fields will squeegee a rental gun if the renter brings it up to the counter, but they never seem to be proactive about broken paint. I played at a field in Ireland on an exchange trip in college and the field refused to clean my gun until I started taking it apart, then they gave me a clean one. I've field-stripped and cleaned hundreds of guns for renters and new players (FYI fields don't like it when you strip their guns, but they'll either get the player a new gun or let you keep cleaning. No one has ever tried top kick me out) and then had them re-chrono. Most inaccuracy is from fresh broken paint like in the well maintained rental GOG eNEMy I cleaned for a kid 2 weeks ago, but some fields, especially those with clam-shell guns like M98s, simply never service their equipment and they're full of old paint and dirt. I've never understood why this isn't a top priority for fields especially since most field owners and players are paintball players who throw a fit if their personal setup isn't shooting straight.

[@vgullotta]

Hey Brad, what do you think about barrels with straight rifling and roundball? Back in the day, I had a Traccer with the autococker conversion kit (showing my age here) and a 12" brass J&J barrel that had straight rifling grooves down the barrel, and I felt like it was the best shooting barrel I ever owned for roundball (even if it was super heavy). #PBQT

[@ashravenpb]

it doesn't affect roundball and it seems like it'd hurt the performance of fsr, but it might work well with the MCS shaped projectile

[@adamsweenzy7373]

I see a lot of people taking about shitty rental gear. I’m in Australia where the paintball market has just shot up because 12 year olds are now able to play and it’s easier to get a paintball marker. And at my local field, they are a paintball shop so they know what their doing. Also they have very nice non fog masks, nice gog enemy’s(well taken care of) and have multiple gun upgrades from the meek to the geo. The field is top quality and they actually provide some good equipment. And yes the rentals are out gunned by the pros who sometimes come and overshoot but it’s not very bad because the teams are made fair.

[@johnnybgoode2333]

Got a cheap rifled barrel just for the hell of it and tested it on my lv1. At short and medium ranges absolutely no difference. However I was shocked that at longer ranges I got a slightly tighter grouping with less of a lob effect than the stock shaft 4 barrel. (Using spyder "premium" paintballs I got a walmart)

[@enterthehunter7336]

well there is the development in Firearms of going to a rifled barrel for a reason it adds significant stabilization even with round ball ammo looking at simple muzzleloaders you got your average musket Smooth Bore and then you have some of those same muskets that were later rifled which then became much more accurate and for good reason as you're not just lobbing the round anymore and it helps defy gravity

[@ashravenpb]

but the rifling in firearms bites into the projectile to spin it. A paintball would just be torn to shreds if you were to underbore with a rifled barrel. The other problem is that, while the shell may spin, the fill inside the paintball wont.

[@enterthehunter7336]

Ashraven PB yes but it uses microgroove rifling like many air guns do and the remaining tolerances can easily be taken up by a little bit of flex in the material being accelerated up to 400 feet per second if you don't think there will be a little bit of Flex as the ball is accelerated please do a high quality slow motion video like taofledermaus with a multiple colored projectile to prove me wrong there is also show in rifled slugs the rotation is not very much at all to stabilize these rounds it's not of the same performance as you would expect in a firearm but it does help

[@Trashcankicker.]

Hopefully this makes it to your questions . But is there a difference between a high and low end compressed air ? Such as a aluminum vs carbon fiber ? Besides the weight differences . I noticed that when I ran out of air on my 200 plus dollar 77 carbon fiber tank from ninja my friend let me borrow his 3500psi aluminum tank and as I was shooting , it curved the balls making inaccurate shots . With my ninja carbon fiber tank , I never have that issue, consistent shots every time . ..

[@TechWizard28]

First strikes don’t hurt any worse than paintballs.

[@rjk13090]

James Small especially when you dont get hit, because that magfed guy just ran through a lane of 10.5bps

[@rosshetzel5741]

Very true. Playing on a speed ball course is probably a bad move a magfed player in general. The trade for distance and accuracy is meant for large areas.

[@cbb6278]

I don't know about that at all. I have never really bruised from being hit with a paintball. At most a very light hard to see bruising at best. I was shot with a first strike 3 weeks ago in the leg from about 40 yards away. I still have a nasty looking bruise and it is tender as hell to touch it. I have been playing since '97 and I have never had a shot hurt as bad as that one. It didn't stop me from playing. I met up with the dude after he shot me and we went and rechrono'ed his First Strike Compact pistol and it read 275, 277, 276, 278 and the field limit was 280. So you can't say they don't hurt any worse because while the other first strike rounds that I have been hit with never really bothered me 2 of them have made me think whether or not they should be legal when you get within so many yards or feet.

[@cbb6278]

Rob if you are having to shoot 10.5 bps and lanes at a magfed player then you may want to think about practicing a little.

[@alexstephens3546]

Just getting into paint ball but it was nice to hear my home field of West coast

[@ZackyHall]

Hey I live in nor call and I can't wait to play at cap edge your videos have helped guide me getting back into the scene thanks man hope to see ya out there

[@---bs8dp]

I had this straight riffle berrel that made roundballs fly crazy straight it never made sense to me but it would make the paint hiss and whiz also

[@MichaelPlaczek]

FSR doesn't hurt more than Roundballs, it is usually because the person forgot to chronograph his gun properly

[@ssalkey]

Not sure what the problem is with Tippmanns or spiders rentals. My first marker was a 98 it was as he said reliable and kept me going for a number of years. But when I got more into the sport I wanted more so I bought another Tippmann, the x7 phenom. I love that marker so much I’m converting it to MagFed . Part of the reason paintball is in decline is because people don’t want to pay for a decent marker. And like one person said fields know this so they capitalize on new groups and make sure they get at least one or two in the group to have fun enough to come back. So I think the big thing is people who are new to the sport don’t have enough info or people are just no longer interested in getting shot with paint. MCS is really catering to MagFed and milsim type play and offering more for military and police training.

[@SideshowDooM]

As someone who uses FSR 100% of the time at every game I play. I agree...FSR doesn't need to used in open play walk on days IF there is a lot of younger rentals, but if you ban them outright, you are discouraging a paying customer from those days they just want to play. If those walk on days are more speedballer and higher end markers, the FSR should be in play, it is our way to level the playing field against hoppers. Prsonally, at walk on days I'll load up both and if I get into a shootout with a rental, I'll switch to a roundball mag with the loss of velocity to give said rental a bit of advantage to make them feel good, especially if they are a child.

[@tylerm124]

Oh I didn't fsr existed. I stopped playing airsoft like 13 years ago for airsoft. I might get back into now that there is something worth shooting.

[@PolisKshatriya]

One of the biggest reasons fields ban First Strikes is the fact that it's harder for them to sell it and more expensive for them to stock it. Playing at Capital Edge with First Strikes was fine when we did it (field allowed it), and having been bunkered countless times with First Strikes, I can say that there's no difference unless someone is shooting hot.

[@Matter_Of_Fact]

My local field uses Etek 4 for rentals with a LTR, its quite nice

[@gunfuego]

First strike should be banned until they can be 19.99 per 500 or so..... FS is prohibitively expensive. $80 for 250 fs rounds is **insert expletive** ridiculous.......

[@GenuwineG]

I played paintball back in the days, some more advanced players may overshoot the opponents even with plain balls without rifling. I had a autococker custom with a rifled barrel. Regret selling it

[@bluebeard6189]

I had an armsom semi-automatic years ago it had an internally rifled barrel it was the most accurate paintball gun I ever shot. Autococker, pumps nothing compared to that armson with that Barrel

[@beardedrider2263]

You feel that work at in Oklahoma City uses the gog enemy and they are not that high maintenance we Lube them like every other month and they always work like a charm and Shoot Straight after a while some of them do leak and we have to do some maintenance like change o rings

[@stuartcarlston]

For someone that looks like (The Simpson's:) "Cletus the Slack Jaw Yokel" you seem to be extremely smart and know your paintball "stuff". You are the eternal mystery of what makes some youtube channels interesting and appealing and other's not. I'm a proud subscriber but frankly don't know why. You have that that mysterious (charisma?) but something, that brings me back. I run a club and tell new all Still trying to figure it out. Going to buy a shirt but only when your mug is on the back.

[@ScoutSniper3124]

The trick is Hk's FLAT rifling, you could use it with normal paintballs, since unlike standard rifling it doesn't cut into the projectile .

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

Pressure is still applied to the projectile though correct?

[@Caveira138]

What's the street price supposed to be on the Emek? I saw somewhere they're being released as rentals first?

[@carwerks101]

Nice fuzion jersey I have the same one, played for the first time the other day since fuzions demise

[@travwrestle]

Can you please do a video about shooting programs inside guns like the Dye M2? Full Auto, Semi, PSP Burst, Millenium Ramp, ect. Back into paintball after 10 years off and I have no idea what PSP or Millenium rules are.

[@brink668]

My friends got hit by First Strike from snipers and not one of them broke but left some massive welts, even with some layers on. This was most of our first time playing..

[@mr.melvinmcqueen8467]

I played with a rental tippmann 98 classic today. I hated it. It had a thick layer of paint caked on the side and the accuracy was horrible. the only reason I rented it was because it was cheaper to do that than to rent a mask and tank for my tippmann

[@shooterbjennings]

New to the game, I ordered a Rize Maxxed and love the gun. My only complaint with the Rize thus far is the accuracy. It seems that paint sometimes just flies way off target. What can I do to help with the accuracy of the gun? Follow up question, would the Rize be a good contender in tournaments or should I save up for a higher end marker? #PBQT

[@ashravenpb]

Are some shots dropping off or shooting further than normal or are they flying off to the left or right?

[@shooterbjennings]

Hitting to the right and left. I have been shooting with Graffiti paint, PSI is around 285.

[@ashravenpb]

Then you need to shoot better paint. If its going left and right then its the paint thats the problem or a major defect on the inside of your barrel

[@Timber_LXG_5]

Well i usually run First strikes and i was put on a team of mostly rentals vs a bunch of dudes with electro guns and we where getting our clocks cleaned, i was the only thing balancing the thing till i ran out of ammo and got overwelmed lol

[@mechredd]

I haven't watched a paintball video in years, so I don't know why this was in my recommended list. The last time I played, first strike rounds had just came out and no field allowed them. Also, the Ion was the revolutionary mid-grade gun that was supposed to bridge the gap between the Tippmann and the DM series, if those are even a thing anymore. I actually think that the Invert Mini was the newest marker being advertised at the last tournament I played in.

[@an2565]

What time is it over there when you posted the video? Here in Miami it was 7 am

[@philspinella9507]

I run a straight rifled barrel for round ball works awesome I use a 16" rap4 tactical rifled barrel

[@andrewrlambert]

Home field does beginner and advance group for woods ball and they do not allow first strike in beginner group

[@stevenstewart5122]

Is West Coast Adventure Park still open and do they allow First Strike Rounds?

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

Unfortunately, they’re no longer open. 😢

[@ethancrone565]

What's the best Planet eclipse marker in your opinion

[@johnathanmoore9688]

If you look at history, the musket BALL was the first projectile designed to be fired from a weapon. The rifled barrel came into existence in order to stabilize musket BALL and make it more accurate. The rifled barrel does help make the round ball more accurate by providing enough rotation to counter the deformities (which cause drag) in the paintball. The mechanics are similar to those of putting a spiral on a football in order to counter the drag of the laces. #pbqt I know there wasn't a straight question in this, I just wanted you to see this comment and possibly respond?

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

All the literature I read in preparation for this video lead me to believe that riffling has very little effect spherical projectiles. So a quarterback throws a spiral to "counter the drag of the laces"?

[@johnathanmoore9688]

Paintball Ruined My Life I've been in the sport for over 30 years, and I've used a rifled barrel in some of my gear for over a decade. If the ball size is large enough, the rifling does have a noticeable effect. By rotating the imperfections (laces), it causes the air flow the fluctuate around the object. Think of the laces along the same lines as the rudder of a boat, and the effect of water/air flow. When you alternate the location of the laces/rudder, you change the flow of the drag. Does that make sense?

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

Not really, but that's ok 😀

[@XanderTuron]

I have mixed opinions on FSR (having only been on the receiving end and not having used them); they don't hurt more than regular paintballs, but I do feel that they can be pretty intimidating for newer players/rentals as they do have that range and accuracy advantage, but FSR do not tend to be shot at high volumes (in terms of overall quantity) so depending on the field they can offer no major advantage over regular balls and maybe even be disadvantageous due to cost and feed mechanism (magfeds with limited capacity compared to hoppers). That being said, the sound they make when they fly past you can be pretty disconcerting; during one scenario game I was at, a player on my team started shooting past me with FSR at a player on the other team who was shooting at me with FSR, and the hissing of these flying overhead absolutely terrified a newer player that was next to me.

[@siiichuy]

Brad what oil did you use in the eigenbarrel v4?

[@mattthegucci-estone5592]

Brad. When do the emeks come out? I want one

[@wishlist_is_here]

my local field is wayyyy more noob based than anyother field ever in the history of paintball, but there is some ppl who have speed ball guns, and about every month there is ppl who have mag fed and arent alawed fsr

[@chwest1990]

#PBQT Could you do a pro and cons of a Poppit Valves vs Spool Valves?

[@Tommy-gk6bh]

Chris West that would be cool but the answers would be really straightforward.

[@allahallah123]

Ah the age old question, poppit or spool. The answer used to be a tradeoff of efficiency (poppit) or smoothness (spool). However with all the new drivetrain tech for spool valve guns the efficiency is comparable to most poppit valve guns. When PE released the LV1 they redesigned a critical part of the poppit engine, and allowed for one of the smoothest shot feels in the game. The Field One (formerly Bob Long) G6R can get pretty much unmatched efficiency with a shot that still feels smooth yet snappy. Really now it comes down to whatever ergonomics and shot feel you like best.

[@ashravenpb]

modern poppets and spools perform very similarly. Poppets used to be much more efficient and reliable while spools where quieter and smoother. Now there is very little difference, although spools still typically shoot a little smoother and slightly quieter.

[@prestonmarshall5896]

Chris West always go poppit

[@chwest1990]

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[@jay_Jalapeno]

I've tested the flatline , apex barrel and a proteam polygonal rifled barrel on my heavy modded 98 custom with regular rounds Guess which barrel was the most accurate ... The proteam

[@ashravenpb]

the apex and flatline are both poorly honed and have very large bores. That leads to poor consistency which means poor accuracy. The rifling has nothing to do with the better accuracy of the proteam barrel

[@jay_Jalapeno]

@@ashravenpb the proteam armson stealth is the best barrel I've ever tried and its on the fat side .689. Are you familiar with this Barrel at all it's not regular rifling cut into the sides of the barrel

[@tomwong8982]

Tippmann a good started gun for a beginner?

[@18IMAMGODINA]

Check out taofledermaus's video on slugs with rifling on them , I dotn know if it would work for a paintball either . If you fired a normal slug through a rifled barrel it would spin more then a rifled slug through a smooth bore . Because those fins are too small to have any effect , maybe stabilize them just a little it litteraly does 1 rotation before it hits the target where is rifled barrel it would spin way more and be more stabilized I dont know if that applies for paintball too maybe because it is lighter it might have an effect on it ?

[@ashravenpb]

Hustle paintball has a video shooting FSR through a lapco rifled FSR barrel vs FSR through a smooth bore. The FSR + rifled barrel were incredibly consistent (although the marker wasn't, which is why the shots would be high then low then on target) while the FSR + smooth bore still drifted to the left and right quiet a bit

[@leo1999matt]

Didn't realize he lived in sac. capital edge is a pretty cool park went there a few years ago

[@rowanallen4935]

hey man you forgot about Shooters All Season Paintball,i live in Rocklin and its a great field if your looking to go THERE IS NO FIRST STRIKE ALLOWED

[@ShatterBrainz]

The Rifled barrel give the ball a Clockwise spin, the inertia of the spin will cause the ball to spin left or right or up or down, you want a back spin to curve the ball upwards, its like a baseball pitcher throwing a curveball. always barrel match your paint to your barrel, before each day. some brands of paint may be slightly larger or smaller. Buying a barrel kit with multiple size backs .685 .683 ECT. or inserts that do the same will have a greater affect on grouping and distance accuracy over all then pretty much any other method or barrel system i have encountered in the last 20 years of paintballing. Excluding First Strike rounds as they are not "balls" and they are Strictly Mag Fed and Not Standard Equipment for 99% of Paintballers. Ambush Army Div .2 speed ball league Amvush Army Div .1 Rec-ball League PaintballGear.com Store Manager until 2014 20 years of paintballing EXP.

[@BrainEatPenguin]

Airsoft guns use a hopup to apply backspin to bbs which increases the range, do paintball guns have something similar?

[@ashravenpb]

The apex tip is very similar, but its an attachment that goes on the end of the barrel. Its not very useful, but its fun to try and curve shots around corners

[@BrainEatPenguin]

Ashraven PB how much range do you typically get from a high end paintball gun? I assume since paintballs are much larger than BBs and have no backspin it’s significantly less

[@ashravenpb]

All paintball markers shoot at the same velocity (usually about 280 fps) for safety reasons so they will all have the same range. However, there are three major exceptions: The apex tip, the flatline barrel, and the First Strike round. The Apex and Flatline both put backspin on the paintball, which allows it to travel further. Unfortunately, they are also really rough on paint so you have to use paintballs with a harder shell. In paintball, if you get hit and the paintball doesnt break then you are still in. Backspin barrel make the paintballs travel further, but they usually arent traveling fast enough to break on your opponent. They increase the range, but not the effective range of the marker. First Strike rounds are paintballs that have rifled fins on the back half. They travel much further and much more accurately than standard paintballs, but can only be used in certain magazine fed markers. They're also incredibly expensive.

[@fpschamp4088]

I love your videos keep up the good work!!!!! These videos have helped so much

[@zer0paintball834]

Rental players being sniped from far away will drive them out of the sport. My field does magfed games and senario games where they are allowed. They also do 50cal low impact games and looks like tanks this year. Should be crazy. There also replacing their entire rental fleet to the emek. Gonna be a great year opening day next week 😁

[@swift8021]

can you say the same with ramping?

[@zer0paintball834]

Keenan Watts a bad day will drive new players away. To continue the growth of paintball its good for the more experienced players to help out the newer ones. If u wanna use ramping first strike magfed pump stock class play against opponents that will give you a good game. It's no fun shooting rentals there for a birthday party with 12+ rounds

[@swift8021]

thedog556 Correct. However I’m stating is ramping on the same level of competition as FSRs? It’s way better to be hit with 1 round then 10. Beginners don’t get upset because they are sniped from a far, they get upset because of the 10-20 balls thrown at them even when they call themselves out.

[@JeebsCS]

People with first strike already have a disadvantage using a woodsball field. My field, makes the first strike users set their fps lower than the rest

[@johndonovan5981]

The colonists rifled their muskets that shot round lead balls and it increased the accuracy a lot

[@noahkeaton3709]

But with a round ball the rifling was tight against the ball to a point that it notched the lead balls if you squeezed a paint ball like this it would just bust then add on that you want that ball to me moving int would just rip the ball apart

[@docnateizzy]

Head shot from about 60 yards still licking my wound. No break either…makes me wonder. I’m checking people paint loads.

[@sqike001ton]

I don't get the separating rentals and first strike but I don't know anything about paintball past we used to get together and shoot people in a field

[@poppy5201]

Is time2paint ball a good sire for auto cocker stuff

[@enterthehunter7336]

I noticed quite a significant difference in the accuracy by replacing the plastic barrel my JT Outkast came with with a precision rifle barrel you can probably see what I've done with it on my channel airgunnerbro

[@ashravenpb]

you see a significant difference in accuracy for two reasons. 1: the barrel is micro honed aluminum. There arent any inconsistencies that will affect the paintball's flight like in a plastic barrel 2: the bore size is likely much smaller and will provide better consistency and therefore, better accuracy

[@InItForTheParking]

Self equipped should not be banned, period, regardless of field. I say this because while you do get a huge accuracy increase you are also giving up rate of fire. It balances out. As for rentals, you shouldn't be mixing rentals with self equipped anyway. Not only will there be equipment disparity unless you are renting premium equipment, but there is also (usually) a huge experience gap.

[@tirusthevyrus]

First strike mag fed shouldn’t be used against rentals, but speedballers are ok?

[@kroniix_paintball4789]

The field i play at the even out the teams so that theres an even number of experienced and rentals on both teams, but if one has first strike is usually put with the rentals for balancing purposes

[@pancakebuffalo.gaming]

Well, no. Rifled barrels make a HUGE difference with round balls. On any tippmann, it brings the shot spread from about 2 FTsq. To about 2"sq. Aswell as increases the dead accurate range by about 40m. FSR does get more of a benefit from rifled barrels but any round ball marker will still greatly benefit from rifling.

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

That's a pretty good improvement, I've never noticed anything like that.

[@MichaelPlaczek]

Does a FSR harden in cold temperatures?

[@rippertrain]

You ahould try talking with your hands it might help with the spin

[@---td4ff]

Could a hop up similar to airsoft guns help in flight...idk shit about pb this was my recommended so excuse me if pb markers already have that feature

[@PaintballRuinedMyLife]

There is a product called the Flatline barrel that is kinda like a hop up and it does shoot further. The ball is going so slow when it reaches the target the paintballs often don't break.

[@---td4ff]

@@PaintballRuinedMyLife thanks for the reply

[@bolio8610]

#PBQT Read this the other day, good question. If you were buying say an Etha 2, and your team manager offered to buy you a CS2, do you buy the etha, and work your way up, or take the CS2 and keep it forever?

[@andrewamann8855]

You buy the gun you were going to buy, and let the team buy the nicer one for you anyway. Never head to the field without a spare marker, if you can help it. This goes double for competition...

[@bolio8610]

i agree, friends axe went down, let him borrow mine!

[@andrewamann8855]

Halo Moto that sucks, but, as is always the case: 2 is 1, and 1 is none.

[@TechWizard28]

Nemesis barrels are the best for first strike by a long shot.

[@inspectorsteve2287]

So are first strike ammo a half of paintball on fins? So they break and mark someone when shot?

[@toxic1698]

Inspector Steve is the round part on the front end is basically a paintball while the fins are a light "biodegradable plastic".

[@rodneyritchie8846]

no front is plastic it hardly ever breaks unless up close n personal then they hurt n you bleed

[@j.danaclark89]

My cousin and I compared accuracy and his rifled barrel has a much tighter and more predictable spread on any given target.

[@ashravenpb]

There has been testing done by punkworks and many others showing that rifled barrels have no affect on paintballs

[@andrewamann8855]

I'm early-'00's oldhat at this game, out of it for a while now, and the persistent myths passed around the community are downright shocking, sometimes... 1. Rifling doesn't do anything useful for paintball accuracy. Imparting certain types of spin that are axially perpendicular to the bore, however, lets you do some fun stuff. The Apex, and Flatline, systems actually work. 2. If you want better accuracy, get a 2 or 3 piece barrel kit. Fitment is everything for accuracy, and if your paint isn't a proper match to your bore, you're screwed. I liked The Freak, back when Smart Parts was making it, but I can't speak to the quality of manufacturers after the market collapsed and Empire really embraced its namesake. 3. Get off my lawn.

[@pastorclay82]

It's the shape not the veins, just like a foster slug. Check out shotgun channels for more information.

[@TonberryShuffle]

I wouldn't prohibit FSR's or anything like that. I'm not penalizing someone just because they made an investment in their gear. You could go the same route and start banning full auto guns or anything like that because it's "unfair" to the rental players. If you ban one thing just ban anything non-rental. Or simply segregate the players OR make the rental players aware if they want to play with non-rental players.

[@Darksector88]

GoG Enemy = Smart Parts Ion.... I hated that marker back in the day. Sells for the same price as back then too lol. It was like trying to take care of an over needy, super clingy girlfriend. Did not like when players would bring them to our field as they always had problems. I much preferred something like the Indian Creek Promasters if you were gonna rock a cheaper marker in that day.

[@whatistime5768]

Can you do a review on the x7 phenom?