Should Fortnite Remove Mobility Items?

[@TinyEle]

Im with queasy here. Just not interested in players rushing to camp zone based on reads every game. Mobility items make for a much more dynamic end game.

[@rubenlohata5263]

Yeah thats annoying

[@Kleine_dwap]

but no mobility sepparates the good igls from the bad ones, and being a player that makes barely any mistakes is way more rewarding in a no mobility meta than a mobily meta where people that make bad desitions can just hammer to deadside

[@provrb]

Ah, yes, 30 kids hammering through builds or katanaing on height during moving zone every game is dynamic. It makes the game way more RNG, to the point where you find yourself praying for mobility every time you open a chest or you're at a huge disadvantage.

[@chachicullopapi]

Brain dead take, reisshub most literally just demonstrated in this video why mobility fucks your game sense. Because last season made all the IGLs unlearn proper rotation strategies. When he showed exactly how queasy should have dead side rotated to avoid congestion. Ur brain has been full boxed 200d buddy

[@VerySpecialMuffins]

Dynamic end game lmao

[@klicclak]

Khanada said (after FNCS win) that game sense is more important than mechanics. Not sure I fully believe that but there is definitely some truth to it

[@stayfadedearly]

its true

[@jackm727]

1000% true for comp

[@Plutoitscomplicated]

There is a base level of mechanics that you need to do well in tournaments

[@DrCrunkMusic]

​@@Plutoitscomplicated Totally agree there is definitely a minimum mech level but in tournaments some of the mega mechanical players can't make use of them because smart players don't leave themselves vulnerable to flashy pushes and mechanics. A well timed pre fire on an overly aggressive mechanical player will end their game 😉

[@BotvsBots]

Thank you Reisshub inspiring me to start my youtube channel and to start making videos❤️

[@OffTheHenny]

I think mobility items are an essential part of the game and would be missed if they were removed because look at ch4 s3, it had almost no mobility items and the season received very negative reviews, and the season after had a good amount of mobility and it was received very well. The issue I see people having that I don’t personally have is when the mobility item also does damage or doubles as mobility and damage. The Spider-Man web shooters were just mobility and were maybe the best mobility we’ve ever had. I would not consider them broken because they do no harm to the opponents.

[@UncraftedPlays]

Hard agree, especially for zero build, that specific Season made me and all my friends take a break since it's the opposite of dynamic gameplay.

[@50dbo]

Spider-Man ruined it

[@BotvsBots]

Thank you Reisshub inspiring me to start my youtube channel and to start making videos❤️

[@BotvsBots]

Thank you Reisshub inspiring me to start my youtube channel and to start making videos❤️

[@vaiz955]

spider man was way too op same for these grapplers which were basically the same if the grapple blade from last seasen didnt have a left click and did no damage it would have been the perfect rotation item

[@UncraftedPlays]

I just wish that casual/comp/zero build had more different loot pools. That way, it would be much less difficult to "balance" builds whilst keeping zero build fun with solid movement items instead of having to sit in bunkers and bushes all day. Especially zero build metas without solid re-usable movement items like blade/shockwave hammer/tmnt etc. are very slow and boring, cus' if you key in high rank, you'll get 3rd/4th/5th partied, all your cover items go down the drain, and you're almost always better off just sitting in a bush all game.

[@ahaha272]

This. Builds needs primarily trap mobility and zero build can have the crazy stuff imo

[@maxypad3379]

@@ahaha272yes bro like where tf have launches and bouncers been!?

[@agentblackbird9435]

The Grapple Blade was cool but man, so many ZB matches last season just ended in teams having sniper battles. I also never really saw people use the Jr Crash Pads

[@ahaha272]

Comp and ranked need mobility that isn’t too strong but still good. Launchpads, bouncers, flowberries, crashpad jrs and peppers come to mind. Stuff like the katana, shockwaves, grapplers require little to no strategy or risk but get you insanely far for free. I remember I really enjoyed watching chapter 4 season 3 comp because people actually had to strategise, trying to go for mud to rotate, carrying slap splashes, using the rift temples across the jungle or choosing their augments carefully. There wasn’t no mobility but you didn’t have something that can send you 200 metres away in 2 seconds in your back pocket.

[@ofirgal733]

The problem is fortnite need to decide,right now every season you get used to a mobility meta than there is a season with nothing personally im on mobility team but i think if there is no mobility its fine its just need to stay that way(idc if they change the mobility item every season the problem is you forgeting how to tarp) Ps. it was uploade seconds ago I need to get a life

[@brunoob-1]

If there were no mobility item metas I'd hope for Vehicle mobility to come back more I mean Yeah we have... Whiplashes with the personalized skin but its the whiplash We have that and well it kinda just Sucks Yeah cool its a car but havign gas is annoying, Its slow without the boost and its a dumb vehicle Its slow hut protects the player its like epic wants them to not get that far but then not be voulnerable while doing that Motorcycles fixed that ans drift boards too You can Jump and you can shoot while driving Imo the quadcrasher waa the most fun and balanced item ever It had less HP, Back then weapons did alot of damage to them with heavy snipers and other weapons dealing easy damage and we had alot of Assault rifles that are Hitscan too so if you just have good aim you could kinda snipe flying quadcrasher users Also you could get fall damage which was just fun 😂

[@SosaIDK]

@@brunoob-1vehicles aren’t in comp

[@corthanar1]

Hey Reisshub, where do you get all these 3D spectator mode replays?

[@huskygtag]

My parents said if I get 10K subscribers They’d buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys ,literally Begging😊

[@brunoob-1]

@@huskygtag begging goodluck then

[@mcmury501]

I used to love watching tournaments were everybody just tarped to zone it was so much fun to watch ppl tarp to zone then they needed to fight so they could keep tarping I know it wasn’t as fun to play but it was cool to watch, especially when 90% of the player base couldn’t do it

[@m0onshyne970]

I think mobility makes end games more enjoyable to watch and probably play, at least for most people. They might not be quite as skillful as a no mobility meta, but something like the grapple blade was still balanced and did not make rotates free at all.

[@Samwisegollum]

No. Was in Mount Olympus in Solo cc finals endgame and pulled 3 max zones in a row, no flowberry fizz in my inventory either. Pulled up a huge mountain and I wasn't able to make it up in time and me and 5+ other players died to storm. We NEED mobility in this game.

[@itshurtt395]

Adapt

[@Samwisegollum]

@@itshurtt395 Idk dude there wasn't much I could do when it pulled up the mountain, my mats were to shambles

[@itshurtt395]

@@Samwisegollum that's unfortunate, it Is a battle royale you ain't gonna be in the best situation every game. Its filled wit rng

[@Corrupt-dStorm]

Same thing happened to me in qualifiers, zone pulled up and without flowberries I could not have got up in time, I couldn’t have rotated into centre either coz zone had just pulled max

[@kyal]

My favourite time of Fortnite was during early chapter 2 when we had a similar situation with no movement/only launch pads and everyone had to use their brain to rotate. To this day the knowledge from countless vod reviews back then is still relevant and helps me rotate. We had you, destinysjesus, speedygonzalez morning coffee, Arab inside the mind (pepper rotates video 😩), monsterdface, whofishy, zexrow, it just felt like everyone was learning so much about the game but now the new generation of players don’t have that knowledge and haven’t needed it for the longest time. Now that there is less movement suddenly everyone complains again but like you said, just position yourself better.

[@normalchannel2185]

The problem with zero mobility metas is that it just turns into a giant game of rock paper scissors. That congestion happens solely cause most players don't do optimal rotates for 2-3 zones ahead, rather they go for the shorter route(which is a valid play since trying a riskier rotate and having worse positioning JUST to improve your chances that the NEXT to NEXT rotate you get it easier is essentially a gamble that you actually survive those 2-3 zones) However, if we continue on having 0 mobility metas, then the congestion would firstly even out as players try and predict the congestion and stay away from it, and then move from the near side to the far side when all players predict that congestio, and when that happens you just invert the plays. So it becomes a game of Rock paper and scissors, which would also culminate in the pros having to STUDY the other players BEFORE hand to figure out where the majority would rotate, and then trying freaking psychoanalysis to figure out their responses. And that imo is better served kept in Chess world cups, not fortnite

[@normalchannel2185]

Also, speaking about the competitive scene as a whole, it is POWERED by the earning, which happen mostly from both views to the comp scene and increases in play time by players. This means, for the long term health of the game, the competitive meta should stay entertaining enough for us to watch too. A 0 mobility meta is HEAVILY defensive, as seen by the rotates Quesy and basically everyone else makes. The reason for that it without a reset option, even with siphon getting 3rd partied is waay too dangerous, even for the 3rd partier in stacked scrims like this. Mobility items however encourage small skirmishes between 2-3 teams, since at any point they can disengage if they feel that they are getting pincered

[@normalchannel2185]

Again, technically 0 mobility metas place waaay more value on game sense and positioning, and in THEORY increase the complexity and dynamic range of a game. The problem is that is in THEORY, since in practice it encourages defensive metas, which are possibly the least dynamic metas. The small boost to the other portions of the game by 0 mobility is overshadowed by the mathematical Dissuasion of not having a reset available. I get that having almost a mass migration with katanas or hammers seems unfair and unrewarding to good players, and seem as if it is a low skilled OP meta, but that still happens here as shown in this clip from 7:45 to 8:45. In fact, Reiss specifically says how no one was rotating untill the absolute last moment, as what happened in the mobility metas. Since basically everyone was in the congested side, rotating before the zone forced you to means you get shot out, which also means that when the zone DOES in fact push you, it pushes everyone else out too, so everyone else is focused on their rotates and you don't really have any risk

[@KadeStro90]

Any item that works like the Kinetic blade (like the ninja turtles mythics) are usually very balanced and super useful and fun. Instead of making items like wings which get you killed in half a second, or the shockwave hammer which is basically just a free rotate which griefs others builds instantly, they should continue to expand on the idea of kinetic blade-like items. C4S2 had one of the best competitive loot pools and an amazing FNCS, and the movement was a big reason why.

[@NitrFN]

Lots of people would say the wings of Icarus but with them you get beamed. They need to add something similar to the grapple blade back.

[@JS10K]

Mobility items are part of modern Fortnite imo, and a pretty important part and if it's done well, everyone from comp players to casual players enjoy it. Smart rotations do seem like they become a bit of a lost art with mobility, but mobility makes everything more enjoyable since it's already difficult to rotate with RNG so removing mobility options makes a stacked endgame potentially more punishing for unlucky RNG.

[@quarrelquarrel5304]

mobility items are FUN. Of course they should be in the game my guy

[@AranelOfficial]

Grappling hook, Grappler and the katana items were an example of really good mobility items and I think buffing wings wouldve been better. Flowberry fizz on the otherhand, was nerfed by HALF which encourages players to use more materials now, which im a little sad of.

[@Emawou]

If you remove mobility its only up to your aim so losing and wining is harder because the just up the who shoots the first shot at the opponent so never remove mobility or swap mobility for other mobility item(s)

[@johndolenc7658]

With queasy’s remark I would like to say something: the game should be hard on rotations. However, getting gunned down due to rotation RNG is a bad thing. I think there should be less mobility items (especially since we’ve got mantling changes somewhat recently) but there should be MORE ways we see the next zone. There have been npc’s, a sniper, etc. that reveals zone. What if there was a consumable that gave zone information?

[@Killeddby]

I personally think there should be less mobility. it’s a skill set to be able to rotate without losing anything in return. If you’re relying on items to rotate I think fundamentals should be questioned. Of course it’s hard to get around in this season. But you can easily manage 3 dashes that everyone’s able to get. ( green water )

[@zevpolun1498]

I think the reason why tayson was so successful was bc he is such a good fighter and is igl so om solos he can get kills and knows when to rotate

[@phoenix05892]

In my eyes, mobility items allow you to change the odds of a good rotation in your favor. Like in the Queasy clip, I feel like you shouldn't complain about having a tough rotation if you're choosing to run no mobility items, to me, that means you're choosing to accept whatever rng the game gives you.

[@MCrunchy]

fortnite watched the server lag with the grapple blades last season and said "better servers/less observers? nope, no mobility"

[@seanbrennacossell4765]

Get rid of most mobility items....keep shockwaves and bring back launch pads and give us more of a sprint so we didnt have to rely so much on mobility items. Stamina just doesnt last long

[@FLYESTIII]

No we just simply need that grapple back

[@manolispartsak850]

We had longer lasting stamina at the start of chapter 5 season 1 but it was hated and didn't work well with projectile weapons. It was impossible to hit someone when they sprinted.

[@Leven2kTV]

You did not have to dunk on Queasy this hard dawg

[@ReisshubExtra]

Thank you levenreacts2599

[@rubenlohata5263]

No because i don't want to relive zero build in chapter 4 season 3 that was hard to maneuver over the map

[@typhlosion7872]

Just balance them in comp or only put the ones pros like in comp. For instance, every pro loved bouncers in C2S5. It took intelligence to use so you didn't get beamed, but also made it to where you didn't get automatically screwed by zone if it didn't pull to you

[@bhronos]

All fun and games til you avoid congested side then zone pulls right to it

[@jurarules]

If there was glider redeploys in this season that would solve movement if paired with the wings (the wall thingy)

[@FearlessP4P1]

It’s great for the game to have mobility items, but I hate mobility items, because it makes it easy to escape. It also makes it more likely that you’re 3rd partied. What’s worse is when you hit someone hard, they runaway, get 3rd partied and then the person I hit hard comes back fully healed and kills me

[@samplingrater8411]

People use mobility items to run from fights more than rotate. Just slow down zone and remove most mobility items, have a few like impulse grenades, peppers, items like flowberries that give the anti gravity, balloons, maybe a couple vehicles like hoverboards n ballers.

[@glaciarch6424]

I’m a zero build player and I’m all for keeping mobility items. They make the game so interesting because games are far more decided by how efficiently you can use your mobility and position yourself without the use of instant cover from builds

[@UncraftedPlays]

Same here. I think the best solution would be to give Zero Build different movement items, but I don't know what it's like from the perspective of a builds player. All I can say is that without movement, Zero Build (especially in high rank) is nothing more than saving covers items and camping until end-game, it's incredibly uninteresting.

[@joshuawillians6313]

I think that mobility items can be unskill full but they add a fun element to the games and make their to be even more possiblitys for outcomes in the game . Anyday I would take some skill out of the game for it to be more engaging and fun for viewers and players

[@FLYESTIII]

JUST BRING THE GRAPPLE BLADE BACK!

[@BotvsBots]

Thank you Reisshub inspiring me to start my youtube channel and to start making videos❤️

[@DaneYorke]

It was, the Midas tourneys only movement was fizz and its a heal

[@OnionfishyFN]

I think zero mobility metas are healthy for tournaments 👍 doesn’t have to be every season, but it’s nice to reward smart rotations like you said

[@Kj-fs8dz]

Nah we just need Og szn. Which means those good grabbers.

[@samsanchex1670]

Mobility items should stay but they should more balanced, blue sockwaves, cows, trap slot launchpads and bouncers are the perfect example of this

[@Doboxik]

Mobility metas are much more fun to watch for the viewers i think

[@Olmlo.]

They need to bring back blue impulses again

[@klicclak]

I think this would be interesting. Would love to see that

[@vaiz955]

i already see the fall damage clips with it

[@ChangingCrisis]

Whether we have zero mobility or OP mobility the same players always win so I don't think it matters too much but the smarter players always prevail in zero mobility metas

[@hondaaccord1399]

Casual and comp need separate loot pools 🤷🏿‍♀️ Would fix near everything 🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

[@CERISTHEDEV]

Zero build with no mobility items is just not good there is no iffs Like epic literraly unvaulted the shockwave grenade just for zero build in a season that had no mobility if im not mistaken

[@stonegaming675]

ive been asking for mobility items to be removed from comp. i remember a time when u had to get a good position and tarp efficiently without wasting alot of matts

[@Luci_71]

i feel like the only way they could make this work is to add more movement mechanics like there are in say apex. For example, slide hopping, tap strafing, edge boosting, etc. all of those mechanics would warant enough of a change to I think reduce the amount of movement items in the game and give movement i higher skill ceiling which i think would be for the best

[@mandrin2412]

@Reisshub you should make a video just explaining how to use replay mode

[@DrCrunkMusic]

Ill be homest if the mobility makes you super vulnerable breifly in use (like a lot of them are) i dont think its that over powered. I agree it does make for a lazier igl but good mobility use and good movement decisions still give you an advantage over someone just chancing it. There is a chance they make it but it's not a get out of jail free card. Remember how crazy the early tournaments were? Yes It lacked consistency and there was some rng involved but dam was it entertaining 👌

[@relixlol6952]

inflatable bull was peak mobility

[@vaiz955]

why did they remove the grapple blade? it was the coolest and most balanced rotation item that i have ever seen in fortnite by far.

[@ImVirals]

I argree with what your saying but then the team who goes grim gate dosent have to worry about this near as much and puts them at a heavy advantage

[@viktorleerbeckvanwagenen9851]

I Think fortnite should have small mobility like crash pad bounce pads i dont like it when fortnite has one mobility item that is just to overpowered

[@whyz-ny2qo]

Everybody here be writings essays😭

[@giovania.valdrighi1562]

He is literally using a mobility item to do the rotation, they just used the shield with gravity effect and started jumping.

[@namanienie123]

If you want mobility Just play apex or titanfall Like mobility in Fortnite is good but only to a certain extent Besides that play apex

[@PWRJoshua]

I love it when a 30 year old man who’s made 1 cc finals tells a pro who’s made almost a million on the game what to do and the 30 year old man is totally right

[@theshadowking3198]

If Fortnite dares remove mobility I’m going to form a strike

[@sweatynoob1402]

Are shockwaves in tournaments?

[@Maxs1i]

what did you spill on your shirt lol

[@shortesnameofalltime]

This is def gonna sound stupid but couldn’t they carry wings or shockwaves?

[@abdu-he6wm]

bro just uploaded a 10 minute queasy rant

[@CristianoBobaldo]

Really good video there Is much to learn from this

[@selectsnom]

How do you enable "game only HUD" in replay mode?

[@1.Graham]

I get stuffed from the back every time I use these🔥🗣️🗣️🔥🗣️

[@TheProfyx]

But we got wings 🤓

[@SEBEESIX]

1 minute gang ----->>>>>>>

[@JKJosh1st]

I mean, I think it would be valid to have a season without mobility items. Because, I keep on having to decide whether to pick up chains of hades or a sniper or wings of Icarus, and when I don't pick up wings I feel like I'm at a disadvantage and same when I do pick it up. It's just kinda annoying to have to choose.

[@JS10K]

I do get this since mobility meta seasons basically make one slot mandatory for mobility which limits the options you have for your other items/weapons and makes it more punishing if you don't find mobility, especially as a solo. It seems even more difficult for Zero Build since mobility and bunkers become priority so that means slots for weapons and healing could become a choice of what disadvantage are you willing to take by not being able to carry something. That being said, the strengths of having mobility often outweigh the utility of other weapons/items so it's an item you want to have even if it didn't mean that everyone else was also carrying it, and usually other weapons and items will just aren't going to make the cut.

[@provrb]

The simple response to anyone complaining about low mobility is "skill issue." Low mobility rewards IQ and punishes the bad players more. Also side note, low mobility makes it easier on the servers because they don't have to keep up with the strain from all the players being kept alive by hammers, rockets, katanas, grapples, spiderman, shockwaves, launch pads, crash pads, rifts etc. If you make a mistake, you get punished. That simple, you shouldn't rely on mobility to bail you out or carry you through games.

[@JustJoeWired]

No. Go play Warzone if you want a more serious competitive experience. Even for competitive, this is Fortnite. It’s a little goofy. That’s why Fortnite fans are fans. If you don’t want to compete in the Fortnite environment with the Fortnite gear, don’t play Fortnite.

[@EproGGs]

For everyone but me

[@TomKeers]

I’d say yes in my opp

[@tanzilahassan780]

Answer for the video, no, they shouldn't. Removing mobility items will make it almost impossible for solo clutches in competitive scenes and Bugha wouldn't have won the world cup if he did not have shockwaves + the comentator shouting that Kreo was in low health. I can elaborate on why they shouldn't if you reply asking for them.

[@colinroche1774]

I see what you mean but I disagree. Bugha won by so many points that a kill and a win wouldn’t have affected him. Regardless, mobility leads to more dynamic fighting which is good for the game and makes it possible to pursue a robust playstyle.

[@tanzilahassan780]

@@colinroche1774 oops typo, i meant the last match of the worldcup haha. I know that Bugha won bc he was way ahead of his competitors such as Psalm Kreo EpikWhale by almost 20-30 points

[@Doctor_Maulwurf]

Is this a 0 mobi meta rn?

[@Riccardomihaylov]

reisshub your him, like every time i see your vids they are 30 goddamn minuits long and you still upload consistently, I would kiss you on the cheek if I could💕💕

[@CenoAgent]

I hear green needle

[@TweeClover]

At 0:28 howd you do that

[@aaaaaaa7499]

good vid

[@hyun_0_0_0]

❤love from korea i luv ur vids reiss

[@shadifu]

W

[@Ar_afshar11]

Than I must be the best igl in the world to know you should've got the cyberous madlion and fizz poop the fix and go flying around zone queasy just got skill issue

[@mohodinhassan9294]

reisshub goat

[@Junebug0806]

these wings are kinda trash you can get beamed so easily

[@BajjingaBros]

ORANGE PLS

[@lucashax7869]

11 mins and 345 views reiss you fell off bro

[@emersonchae6406]

NOO

[@Joksuuuu]

good vid reisshub again ily (no homo)

[@justiningle8884]

Whats the game with out mobility

[@Mathtriqueur]

Look like it's another situation where fortnite players sucks at time management and game sense. No wonder the playerbase complains at ltm's that increase the game tempo like the recent floor is lava that punishes hard players from their landing spot (since any time spent not getting materials, healing and ammo will be punished ince the lava rise.) For an example of a ltm that punished players for not focusing on the storm and tunnel visionning fights, the driftin ltm with the driftboards. The community complained so hard that they made the moving storms a joke after just 1 day. This was back in C1S7.

[@emersonchae6406]

Don't remove

[@hesssus]

wings bad shock wawes doog

[@aces8843]

Lmao remove mobility items and you will get to see which players are actually good and which actually suck, mobility items is for casual noobs

[@mohodinhassan9294]

no

[@saruhbot]

BRING BACK THE GRAPPLER

[@ashwaves4580]

First

[@IThePeaceful]

Okay no one asked

[@Ariel-pw1uv]

no