Should FORWARD FACING SONAR Be BANNED?! (Travel Vlog Q&A)

[@paulb7943]

Yes

[@ferkxd451]

They should ban 85mph towing a boat MDJ

[@noswad75]

You guys are elite anglers. You have the skills, knowledge, and experience/expertise. I'd rather see you guys pitting all of that against each other to win a tourney. Anyone can look at a screen and find a fish. It takes no skill. I used it for the first time on a buddys boat recently. Put all of that knowledge and experience to the real test and out perform that guy that's fishing next to you. That's a sport that takes real skill. I'd rather hear you guys mic'd up, listening to the thought process out loud, hearing you guys read the water and weather. Maybe even spontaneously creating a new way of rigging a lure right then and there because you just can't get them to bite on the old stuff!! Now that would be exciting to watch. I think you guys are forgetting the importance of viewership. If the viewers go bye bye so does that prize money!! Yeah you guys might get money from sponsors and companies but if those ads and viewers go, booooy that money is going to dry up quicker than that fishin hole!! The only thing you'll be fishing is that fish patty out of the hot grease at McDonald's!! Try to feed your family on that mess!! You guys were put on tv for a reason!! Don't slit your own throats!

[@estrick012]

During practice ffs is fine. but during the tourney yes ban it.. Yes, it is a tool but so is a range finder in golf. Even with the split screen it still makes for bad tv.

[@TractorJedi]

Split screen makes the difference!!

[@rickvann3489]

I think it's RANGER BOATS and CHEVY TRUCKS, What is a toy?

[@jimgarrett648]

Love the split screen views!! You need to use your cruise control more. On this vlog you went from 60s to nearly 90 and back to upper 70s. This would help your mpgs.

[@nikquinn3374]

Yes sir, Pot holes, lake washington, lake sammamish, banks, there all a blast

[@seantuck542]

Seeing split screen, lures and break offs makes for good tv. They gotta let us see the drama of losing that big one and getting broke off 😢😅

[@AnglerMarv]

I would love to see a few tourneys where the only electronics used are Depth, Temp, and GPS with no waypoints. 😊

[@Moye1984]

Maybe ffs in practice and then none on derby day

[@Kiomanche]

For tournaments yes!!

[@trevorschneiderfishing]

Maybe 🤣

[@jimschreiner6482]

I would love to see a West Coast MLF or BASS swing. BASS was going to do one in my State WA several years ago but the pros said they didn't want to drive that far, so it cancelled.

[@joealeman3526]

I think it should be banned on championship day only. Good luck this season MDJ

[@Hunter-kz6os]

I think depth finders and livescope in general are getting outrageously expensive especially for the average angler. If you want to introduce it to a more wide range of working class people then drop the price so people can actually afford it

[@paulb351]

Great video Ffs does make it a bit boring for the viewer

[@boomboomoutdoors2020]

If you drink a few of them, you over served, if you Catholic haha, DC crazy!

[@MSL-dv6nx]

100% needs to be banned. Especially for tournaments

[@stonehorn4641]

It really doesn’t

[@Boethius411]

Some of the issues with ffs are the same reasons why trolling wasn’t allowed in tournaments the beginning. We knew those fish were there before no matter what people say. We targeted them by trolling for them when just fun fishing when I was barely big enough to hold a pole. Anyway, First, nobody likes to see guys starring at screens anymore than they wanted to see guys slowly driving around out there. Split screens help but it’s not the answer. Another reason it wasn’t allowed was it was a nightmare logistically for those draw tournaments back in the day too. Now we’re seeing pros being paired with pros on the tours that have them because co anglers are not signing up. I love the fact that I can target a barely tapped population of fish, and I actually catch myself happy when I pull some of the school off a ledge now because I can spot and catch them out there in the abyss… but… I do have mixed feelings about ffs. Even if conservation doesn’t become a major problem, which is yet to be seen, it is pressuring fish in the only sanctuary left for them. That will have a impact on fisheries. . And I can’t lie, I took my 9yo just to teach him to throw a baitcaster and he won the little derby we entered by himself. I just picked out backlashes, scanned and told him where to try and cast. Sometimes he came close. Lol but it was enough. He beat some local sticks too. That made me really feel uneasy. I had to be excited for him, but in my gut I just felt like this isn’t right. Not everyone had it, but still.

[@raymondpadilla65]

a little over $3 a gallon that's awesome compared here in Cali

[@JohnSumner13]

I think there should be at least some tournaments that don't allow it.

[@97caddy]

@22:51 Its called Catch & Release...🤣

[@KurtisMays]

had fun with this episode

[@gamingdreams2142]

Banned all together not just in tournaments.

[@traceybrookd9821]

Yes❤

[@dylanmcmurrey510]

On the right side of the gas pump screen, if you press the second button from the top it will mute it. Thank me later! Yes, the split screen makes it fun to watch!

[@PaulMalovFishing]

Love your work MDJ

[@kenjiiwahashi]

he is right...punching the ca delta thick stuff is the best!

[@caseynewman6110]

They should make FFS a lot cheaper, so that everyone can buy it

[@Chiefdixon]

Ok Mark heres my idea. Electronic companies create 360 live scope. The transducer is mounted in the center of the boat and lowers into the water by a button. Runs to two monitors, one on the front and one on the console. No other electronics allowed.

[@mtblookout3920]

I’d like to see a rotation every season of half the tournaments be with electronics and half without so you can see guys fish their strengths flipping or big swim baits etc

[@HunterBlackburn-mx8oy]

Spilt screen is nice bc I can sit at the house out of the weather and still learning it very trip learning something on live scope

[@idiscorp512]

I think the second button from the bottom on the right side of the screen is the mute button for the gas pump...

[@craiglivingston5441]

I believe there definitely needs too be a limit on ffs transducers. I wish Bass and Mlf would limit it too one forward facing transducer only. Any way they want too mount it trolling motor , pole or turret it doesn’t matter but one that’s all ! It’s not going away so make it one period !

[@ikashibimauler]

Saying its not going away doesnt make sense. Its all about will. Why doesn't MLB use aluminum bats? Why are F1 cars limited in engine size? Why can't PGA golfers use a range finder? Why can't bass pros troll, or use 20 foot poles while bed fishing?

[@PawnBrokerPickers]

Does your brakes squeal on that Tundra like mine do and Toyota has no fix for it smh

[@joshual9759]

If somebody fed me the electronics with a silver spoon i would probably prefer it too!

[@mikehigh4321]

My guy bussin 90mph wit a trailer behind him lol bro started talking bout toward facing sonar foot went to smashing lol

[@elapham]

Love the split screen...

[@TripleAstyle1]

Mark- PRO TIP- usually 2nd button on top right at the gas station will "mute" that garbage ads you hear!

[@Woodland-Gangsta]

I would like to see the anglers use raw skills acquired over the years in at least two tournaments.

[@HunterBlackburn-mx8oy]

They won’t even be able to hit there target they throwing at they haven’t fished the bank since 6 years for some people the fish the bank 1 month out of the year for spawn but hey let everyone fish the middle I will fish the bank everyday

[@traviss9059]

@@HunterBlackburn-mx8oy This is my home lake. 85% of the lake is between 0-15 feet deep, there's one section of the middle that's 30-50. You know who has the live scope and FFS because they are sitting in the middle (in the roughest part of the lake with spot lock just murdering their trolling motor). No one would choose to be out there getting buzzed by weekend warriors if they weren't on some shit no one else can see.

[@kjldsajflkafdjl1027]

They need to change the game to hold one tournament throughout the season to were they can use any electronics and raised the price money.

[@stonehorn4641]

Man, a lot of you guys are cry babies

[@tylernorton6682]

brian lattimer fishes tournys that use no electronics some times.

[@Mr.CrypticStories]

I don’t think it hinders professional ability, but I think it helps to hone in years of fishing into a much more efficient way. Regardless of ffs or not, the pros will fish similar patterns but with less efficiency and under the water knowledge if banned. Ffs removes a lot of “blind luck”.

[@Tweezy_bassfishin_movement]

lol that boy speeding...rollin safe travels

[@mackrandle9307]

That's right potholes, would be a great place.

[@prestonmire5509]

The split screen is awesome i think it is we can learn how it works

[@285proxl5]

Definitely like seeing the split screen

[@boomboomoutdoors2020]

I turn it to Tow Haul Sport, she really git gitty. Wooo Woooo 😂

[@markkendrick01]

Gas station tip: If you touch all the buttons around the noisy screen one of them will mute the audio. Works every time.

[@jessemiller3561]

You can shut the ads off.

[@jameslovelace8958]

Mark you are so right about the fish becoming adapted to the ping. Lake Douglas in East Tennessee has been pinged so much that as soon as you turn it on they scatter. So in the future we will see all major lakes go though this turn off.

[@scottbassman123]

How Come u guys don't travel w ur boat covers on ??

[@charlesjohnson8805]

Thanks for the info on the new Tundra!

[@CodeHawg]

I’d like to see some tournaments without FFS or only available in practice.

[@billljones979]

I read Edwin Evers article on ffs, and from a fan I think a lot of people need to read that. It's here to stay like it or not

[@thomaswinslow1624]

I went and read that article after reading your comment. I agree it’s not going anywhere, but my main issue is at the end of that article, he says “it’s something I want and NEED in my boat”. the fact that pros are now saying they “need” it, kind of proves that it’s a crutch. I also think a lot of people’s issues with it (myself included) is the price tag. It’s not in many people’s budget, and there a may be a slight jealousy factor at play

[@billljones979]

@thomaswinslow1624 all true, Def a tough topic, I'm with you if it was in a better price range , Also I'm not speaking for Edwin but I took that need. As him saying everyone else has it, so if he went without it he would get blown out the water competition wise, I right in the middle, I hate watching it but rather watch power fishing

[@txhuntsman]

Fine for weekend warriors. Fine for Pros on practice day. Should be banned on tournament day for the pros. Been my take from go and I don’t see anything that has changed my opinion on it.

[@stevenmunsey9081]

I do think it should and will eventually be banned. 2 reasons. First as you have mentioned it makes for terrible TV. The split screen feature is not going to change that. At some point the tournament organizations will be forced to face lower viewership numbers. Secondly, FFS techniques feature using plastic baits and jigheads with an occasional jerkbait mixed in. Soon the bait companies are going to come to the realization that FFS fishermen buy fewer bait varieties. Those sponsorship dollars might just start to dry up. The electronic companies will not be able to pick up that slack. Hopefully that might help force the issue

[@brandonbarker3337]

Push the 2nd button on right should shut that screen up.. 🤘🏻

[@tysonprice109]

I have 1st gen 3.5 Ecoboost 2011 5Star tuned I get 14 mpg with 20’s towing my Z21

[@bayouboyentertainment2106]

I don't have a boat so Sonar doesn't really bother me lol, but i've seen guys in tourneys that i watch actually lose possibly because of it because Forward Facing Sonar told them the fish are right here and they would just sit on a spot that had a big one or a wad of fish on it for hours but they couldn't get them to bite, if you didn't have the Sonar you wouldn't even know they were there and have moved on way sooner like after 30mins you'd be like they must not be here time to move lol. So imo it's a double edged sword. I think the Elites last year had a tourney down south and live feed showed a pro sitting on a bridge spot that had a big one for 2hrs plus and he never did get him to bite which also made for a very boring live feed of a guy just looking at a screen for 2hrs lol. Also it's not a Creek Series unless Mark Jr. is neck deep in the water at somepoint in the video lol.

[@andreaseichmann-qu5zx]

Love the travel vlog, keep choppin bud

[@BrianLindseyGuitar]

The split screen is a 15 to 20% improvement, and definitely better than not having it. However, the majority of folks aren’t going to know what they’re looking at…and the image quality by the time it crosses over to the viewer is still pretty poor. But even though it’s better than nothing, as the technology advances, it will eventually be identical to watching someone play a fishing game on a N64. 😕 Another thing that no one seems to want to talk about is the fact that it makes different tournament locations almost pointless…minus small changes in scenery. Keep 2D, DI and SI… Let the FFS go. As cheesy as it sounds, it takes away the mystique that was often associated with great fisherman/anglers.

[@keithpowell2786]

First of all best of luck at Santee. Love the travel, log with questions. Awesome addition. And thanks for the advice on catch and release on gummy worms

[@jameslovelace8958]

I love the split screen. I’m new to FFS and I’m learning by watching you guys.

[@craigwagner7157]

I don't think the issue with FFS has anything to do with bass competitions. If anything it lets the average person know there are fish in the lake and they can be caught.. A big note is that all pro's "catch and release" so why would it matter in that sense.. I don't think it does. Where FFS becomes an issue would be the "Catch and Eat" When you can target big pre-spawn female crappie that can produce 3k-100k of eggs each year and you take out 12 of those in 1 day.. you just removed millions of eggs for the potential following season. that's 1 person catching a limit.. now change those numbers to every person who can afford the unit and targets those species. you can wreck a whole lake in 1 year. So let me approach another way. As a pro if you did your practice and then competition and every fish you caught of legal length you killed(took out of the lake, ate, what ever) . now every pro did the same... how good would the lakes be in 1 year. that 7,8,9 lb bass you needed to catch in the competition was already caught and removed. in 1-2 years the only thing left in the lake would be dinks because you used FFS to target the larger producing fish to win and they were removed from the lake... the DNR knows FFS is here to stay so they are already trying to stop the depletion from happening by increasing size requirements and decreasing bag limits. so for catch and release.. show me those fish are there, how an average person can target and catch a monster and snap a few pics and let go..No body spends thousands each year on hunting equipment and only loads there guns with tranquilizers just to snap a few pics.

[@willbutler2639]

See my problem with it is something like yours. My problem is this will effect the fish population because those fish that went out deep were way harder to find and catch. Thus the big females were safe and could live their life without having a spotlight shined on them so they stick out like a sore thumb. This is the same as spotlighting deer. It takes no skill and is immoral

[@jamalsfishingfocalgroup1225]

Thanks for showing my home, Lake Washington. Some love.

[@Bass_AF817]

I like the side screen on MLF most def

[@kylevodden19]

This will eventually be like NASCAR. With regs on electronics. Getting out of control. But I agree it ain’t going anywhere. But limiting to one ffsducer on the front would be reasonable. And only two graphs. Pros don’t need 5-6 graphs on the boat with only two eyeballs. I can see it going like the racing and have rules on equipment. Otherwise then the boys should be able to run 300 R motors then

[@robertfirasek5296]

Need to go to a diesel truck, lot better fuel mileage all around conditions. Good luck this year

[@benbrownlow5007]

Better have big puffy ready 30 on the pond is cold!

[@WizJabber]

You have to hit the second button on the right side to mute the ads at the pump #WasTodayYearsOld

[@MT-lr4nx]

This dude is by far my favorite fisherman.

[@MichaelP-Fishing]

Always enjoy the videos. The wrap on that boat looks great as well! Always rooting for you each tourney!!

[@patricklambert5622]

The resistance comes from Ignorance . SORRY BUT TRUTH HURTS😂

[@TS1023TS]

Otter should have listened to DC’s almost hour long video about it haha.

[@tomembree6388]

Always appreciate your info Mark! FFS Split screen is cool, but for those of us that don't have it, would be nice if there was a bit of explaining what we are actually seeing. One thing for sure, some of you guys in BPT do a good job with camera/viewer awareness and make it less boring watching when you are using FFS.

[@daleb2786]

All you guys need to be using the upside app for fuel

[@AndrewGarnerAdventures]

Cap on the Big Ups on the Tundra lol

[@troutheadadventures6521]

My issue isn't tournament people, it's the MEAT fishing guys that are using FFS. They are killing the Crappie and Perch in my local lakes.

[@grantschimek6506]

Keep it real buddy! Tell us how you feel! Been a fan a long time. Its gonna be your year. Cant wait for you to beat JW and DC in a tourney!

[@HunterBlackburn-mx8oy]

Yea one day they going to get top 4 all them

[@timdavis4532]

I’m pretty sure at most pumps if you hit the second button from top on right of screen it usually turns off the audio at pump.

[@Sgt6217]

😮 THANK YOU!!!

[@PhilClark1976]

Like the split screen for sure. Helps us learn what you guys really looking at and that even you don’t catch them all.

[@mikecrossman4010]

Love the split screen, idk if it’s my eyes but I couldn’t ever see what they was throwing at even in 4 ft of water.

[@BrettJohnson-z7s]

Yes BAN FFS!! So disgusted by you guys starring down at a screen and spotlighting, its a shame because i really enjoyed watching you DC, Wheeler and Jersey boy, but not anymore.

[@benbrownlow5007]

I think it makes good TV!! Rather see you guys catching than just casting and winding. Chad and JT wouldn’t have anything to talk about

[@tombutler7726]

So I guess we change the name of the sport from “fishing” to “catching”?

[@benbrownlow5007]

@@tombutler7726 I’ve seen em not catch ‘em using it and it’s not nearly as entertaining…But to answer your question, yes, call it catching if you like

[@kmasmith0995]

MDJ what do you think will be the next big invention will be ( like FFS ). What in your world would you do, make, invent ? Keep up the great Season Thank you

[@macdaddyblues1]

I don't think these guys can operate any kind of machinery without a big tv screen in it! lol.... Love MDJ... go get em ol' son.

[@tancolepropertyrehab6108]

Here’s my stance on ffs. And I know my stance don’t amount to crap. I understand that a pro has two choices. Either get good at it, or get the wheels beat off of you. But a sport has to have interested fans to survive. And I’m the fan that is a hardcore live watcher that will watch episodes multiple times and study every move the big boys make. With intense detail!! Like would get fired from my job if they really knew how much time I spent watching live. And in the past two years….i watch about 20 minutes and turn it off. So I now watch y’all’s vlogs, and old episodes off bass and MLF. Fans want to see you guys break it down. I say ban practice for good. And break the season up. Ban ffs for half. Then make it legal for the northern stuff where the screen staring is going to happen anyway. Hit ‘em’ hard this week brother. I’ll be in Arkansas pulling for you. A win is on the horizon. You’re too good for it not to be. Trust you guy and fish like you know how.

[@SpaceMan-lr1os]

Not gonna comment on the FFS, over the haggling. But a big thank you for shouting out the west coast. We have almost nothing out here but local clubs. I’m in Seattle, lake Washington is my home lake, and I’d love to see some BFL’s and more MLF tourneys out out way. Nearest to me is Clear lake in the Toyotas this year.

[@tajones005]

Keep up the good work bro. Man DC is off the chain.

[@gonkurapikafishing]

No. Livescope is life! Lol

[@darinclements3477]

Love the split screen view. MLF needs to stay on the split screen though. Director keeps switching off of it

[@randywunderlich6315]

You’re the man!!!!! RANGER Boat’s!!!!!

[@brandonelliott5345]

Dc must of got the special gummies l!

[@glennpotts2435]

What gas do you run in your boat and how important is it if it is?

[@larrystolzman9337]

Mark: a couple of thoughts: 1. I see you were at a BP Gas Station. Get a BP Credit Card and save 15 cents on each gallon. Under current pricing that can save you 4% to 5% on some or all of your fuel purchases. Maybe $800 to $1000 per year. 2. Sorry, the split screen doesn’t work for me. Hard to see and boring to watch. 3. Why can’t we have 50% of the tournaments with out FFS and 50% with? The AOY would have to be good with and without FFS. Thanks for another great video. God Bless!

[@bl8221]

Fun video, Good luck this week JR. Do well , have fun Catchum -up..

[@cjones2077]

As much as I like to know more about the behavior of bass, I would like less FFS in the tournaments as it isn’t as much fun to watch. I do like the graph but it needs to be on every boat as they switch back and forth in the live events.

[@1970pdavis]

I personally like the way that we ( the audience) can now see the graph and and how y'all see the fish and how y'all fish for them

[@c.l.freshwaterfishing3680]

What is up MLF footage? I can't find live footage or highlights on KZbin. What am I doing wrong.

[@stevencaldwell838]

FFS? Ask the co angler’s. Co angler participation is hitting an all time low & hosting cities are losing hundreds of thousands of dollars because of it! I’ve heard of a tournament series being organized that doesn’t allow Live Scope or FFS. Hopefully this is true. I miss watching REAL bass fishing 🙏🎣