Should I Abandon PC Life For an M4 Pro Mac Mini?

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[@RodrigoPolo]

Get the M4, you wont regret it.

[@auroraflash]

Wrong 😊

[@djjupp]

PC Fan: Noctua NH-D15 or Noctua NH-P1

[@djjupp]

look on yt the video "Transform Your Base Mac Mini into a 2 TB Super Mini" from "Mac Sound Solution Inc" to get in idea how to save money with the mac mini pro.

[@Yasir-k1u]

You must not give in to the devil. Who blinds you with supposed carelessness and less responsibility by making you do only one thing, bite into the apple. Stay with AMD and keep your life and your skills in your hands.

[@Raima888s]

I'd like to see the M4 route just to see your comedic rant on it :D

[@PhoticsTV]

Wow, that's funny. 😄 Starting rom the moment of finding the power button could be a hilarious experience. 😏

[@kosmper]

Since you asked: I'd fix the PC cheaply - just a fan AND get a Mac Mini. You get a shiny new thing to learn and work on and if some important software doesnt work on it you fire up the dusty old pc and it works.

[@evankolpack]

Yup, this is the correct answer.

[@PadPoet]

Yup, agree

[@richardrandolph9794]

I also agree. This is a very smart suggestion.

[@Bill-NM]

@@kosmper does "Parallels" work well enough to run most Windows programs on a Mac?

[@LeoLau-jw7ji]

@@Bill-NM I think probely

[@fredfred9758]

MarkusPix used a calculator to do an entire Hollywood movie. You're over complicating it buddy.

[@JoATTech]

😅🤣😂🤣😅🤣

[@martin-it4jb]

Yea true

[@glssjg]

Best comment. Also Markus has some crazy pc setups with the newest stuff

[@sanderbos]

Like @glssjg said, MarcusPix is actually not a good example because I once saw a video of him explaining his (Windows) PC setup, and it was insanely highend everything.

[@asimpletune]

Over complicating is the point of this channel though? I thought we all knew that already.

[@Thirsty_Fox]

By the time you spec out the Mini M4 Pro at all (unbinned chip, sufficient RAM), you're very close to the base Mac Studio Max (2699 CAD vs 2299 CAD) with twice the GPU and media encode engines, faster memory and storage, card slot, 10G ethernet standard, better cooling, etc. They'll be updated to M4 series in a few months and I think make a much better video editing machine than the Mini M4 Pro. The M4 pro has the same media engines as the base M4 Mini and the GPU is still a bit weak overall, roughly similar to a mobile 3080 if I'm not mistaken.

[@Thirsty_Fox]

Forgot to mention -- if you're speccing a Mini Pro up to CAD 4500 just get the CAD 5499 Mac Studio Ultra and get 6 media engines (two decode, four encode) and 60+ GPU cores to deal with all the heavy edits. 800 Gb/s memory speed. No upgrades on it needed, just some external storage at some point cause 1TB fills up. The Mini Pro with upgrades is just too expensive for what it is.

[@orci77]

Does DaVinci support the use of the several media engines?

[@himynameisryan]

While your raw performance estimates are true, real world performance, especially in resolve and other optimised software, the m series do insane things, my pc with an rtx 4090 and ryzen 9 7950x3d and 128gb ram can only handle a few layers of 8k pro res, the Mac Studio with M2 Ultra can handle 22 And my personal m3 max MacBook Pro (yeah not even m4) can handle 12 on batter

[@jayzn1931]

@@himynameisryan It can probably simply do that because there is hardware acceleration (media engines) for all kinds of footage, while Nvidia and AMD don't have that for some codecs like anything in 4:2:2. Your 4090 is worthless if you have 4:2:2 footage.

[@LeoLau-jw7ji]

I say wait for m4 ultra at that point and fix the pc

[@legacyShredder1]

I just bought all of the current M4 variants on the market (M4, M4 Pro, M4 Max.) I switched over to all Mac computers from PC about a month ago when the new Mac Mini's were released. I absolutely love the M4 platform, and it's blowing all of my old PC's out of the water. For all of your crazy 6k/8k side by side edits you would want either the Macbook Pro M4 Max or the Mini M4 Pro with the 20 Core GPU, and load up on the unified memory (What Apple calls their version of RAM.) I would get the internal 512 GB SSD and then buy the best external 8TB you can. If you go the M4 Pro Mac Mini route you should buy one of the brand new dock hubs that have all your extra USB ports and they can can also hold an internal SSD. I've got 4 TB SSD in my dock. Edit: DO NOT buy the Macbook with the M4 Pro chip. It didn't get the fan update, so if you're doing insane heavy processing work it can get loud. The Macbook Pro M4 Max runs completely silent and so does all of the M4/M4 Pro Mac Mini's.

[@tayinternational]

Good info about the fans on the MacBook M4 pros , I’m coming from an MacBook M1 with a only 16 of ram ( got it before I started editing videos) Now I’m editing in DaVinci Resolve studio and I trip the fan pretty often with basic editing and it gets really loud and hot if I add effects to any clips . I want to dive into the Fusion tab but it’s not worth it with most things due to the lag . I guess I’m going to have to go for the MacBook M4 Max with 48 ram .

[@77dris]

Yeah honestly I'd wait for the M4 Mac Studio. The entry level Studio is about the same price as the Pro minis, and it's silent, and has better ports, and much better GPU. But that won't be until next summer most likely.

[@leonelmateus]

While comparing apples to apples. could you list some ballpark total prices in CAD? Also Kasey would have to repurchase all the licenses for the sw he is using now.. What the real price tag of all this? fan fix for now sounds like a wise call, like someone else mentioned below.. and regarding the space.. Kasey, reorg and cleanup your workroom man.. bolt the machine under the desk or under your rocking chair.

[@Minsetti]

Mac Mini M4 Pro is not silent while under a load. There are countless of reports and tests online about the noise. The small cooling system is just not capable of dissipating the heat from M4 Pro and stay silent at the same time.

[@legacyShredder1]

@@Minsetti Those tests are intentionally maxing out the computer, purposely bottlenecking the thing forcing it into thermal throttle. No one does this in real life. Those tests bypass so many protective measures put into place by Apple. I've already pushed my M4 Pro's to extremes, rendering 6k video (multiple at one time,) with Pro Tools open with a 250 track count song being rendered in real time, 80 Google tabs open, and while editing in lightroom. It's silent.

[@BearTracksFlyFishing]

Switched to Mac 10 years or so ago and haven’t regretted that decision yet!

[@77dris]

Same.

[@area51xi]

Switched to Mac in 1985 and haven't looked back.

[@JustinWitmerVisual]

Some personal experience editing the same footages you're editing. I shoot and edit for a living. My "old" M1 Pro Macbook Pro w/16GB ram edits eats Sony 4k 422 10-bit h265, ProRes, and Blackmagic BRAW for breakfast, lunch, dinner, desert, and snacks. You really have to go node-heavy and stack those video layers to start feeling the slowdown. It's seriously crazy how fast this thing is on the timeline. I use it in a professional editing environment on commercial sets for quick edits in Resolve for clients and/or VTR. My PC, a 5950x/4070/64GB ram is good and will export faster and handle MORE thrown at it, but it *feels* slower in the timeline than the M1 Pro, especially when cutting ProRes. Like, there's a slight delay between hitting play and pause that the Mac doesnt have. Small things like that that make editing way less of a chore on the Mac. I think you're going to trip out at how fast and actually pleasing to use a computer can be. It feels like when you find a really nice juicy pen and start writing and the feeling of that pen to paper is so nice you finish your entire manifesto in one sitting, so you start writing another and another and soon you're leading hundreds of men in a digital proxy war against Ghana. It's a slippery slope, but worth the risk.

[@RockyColaFizz]

@@JustinWitmerVisual Yes! My experience exactly. The Mac’s are just smoother and more butter on the timeline.

[@JustinDoesTriathlon]

"5950x/4070/64GB ram is good and will export faster and handle MORE thrown at it, but it feels slower in the timeline than the M1 Pro" Almost word for word my experience. I'm on a 10850k/3070ti/64 and an M1Pro, and 100%, the M1 feels faster in actual use. And yes, the final render times are a bit less, but I care much more about the 12 hours of edit than the 24 vs 29 minutes of export (or whatever.)

[@aelderdonian]

I just picked up the M4 Mini to test out. Sitting at the desktop this thing is pulling a bit over 3 watts from the wall. My Ryzen computer (which is slower overall) idles at over 40 watts. This is the snappiest most pleasant to use computer I've ever used, and most of the time, the fan isn't even on. It's completely silent. For video editing, get the M4 Pro and you'll be on easy mode. The only thing I use my PCs for now is playing games.

[@CanuckQuest]

Doesn't Kasey live in Toronto-ish? The PC can heat his living room and he can cut down on the heating bill!

[@JamieFurlong]

This is a great comment as I'm looking to switch from a Ryzen too, and power consumption is top of my list of priorities. My Ryzen is a monster!

[@mvp_kryptonite]

Photo or light video editing is the pro chip, serious or paid video editing I would recommend the Max chip

[@xjet]

The fan went out on my web-surfing computer's CPU a couple of weeks ago. I spent $22 and replaced the cooler. Works fine now. I'd take that option right now and reflect a little longer on the upgrade path.

[@grahamniven]

Good shout. Kasey's CPU cooler probably only needs the gunk dug out from between the cooling fins.

[@pitterpatterlf]

This is the right answer

[@redrocklead]

Might get faster just cleaning and doing a fan replacement.

[@mooksdfe]

@@redrocklead Yep, CPU throttling is a thing.

[@CarlosPerezFilms]

I edit RED raw footage on my old M1 macbook pro. With heavy grades (noise reduction only on export). All the hard mirrorless codecs you complain about, not even a thought in my brain, all run super smooth. Yes do all the cpu upgrades, the ram at 48gb should be fine, but up to you to go 64 same as the internal harddrive. OCW has the best thunderbolt to thunderbolt hubs to expand your io. Unless you do Blender, Maya,Houdini type work, id go Mac all the way for videi editing (the new m4 handle these types of workflow a bit better than before). There is a curve to switch to mac from pc but once you pass that hump, you’ll see what the fuzz is about. Wish you the best on this.

[@mcmediaandfilm]

M4 is the way I'm on mac studio m1 max and it still chomps through 10 bit raw like butter

[@MikeHunt79]

M1 Max has crazy high mem bandwidth, but M4 pro is almost as good. I'd say go with M4 mac mini, 32GB RAM, external high speed SSD. It will be so much quieter than a similar spec PC too

[@Flamamacue]

Lifelong Windows user also, have a decent custom desktop. Was anti-Apple for a very long time due to paying a premium for the same Intel/AMD internals and duping people into "its just better". Got an M1 Pro MacBook (only 16GB too) for mobile option but it ended up being faster in many tasks than my 5900X/32GB/2080 desktop and became my main machine. Desktop was in sleep mode for almost a full year. IMO Apple Silicon is just way better. The M4 Pro Mini represents extreme value and will vastly outperform an equivalent $ desktop. Skip the SSD upgrade and operate off external to prevent wear on the internal and also free up bandwidth for OS/programs (& it's way cheaper), and while unified memory is definitely better I would go 64gb for future proofing. Don't worry about 10GE unless you operate off a NAS/network drives that also support it or want to. I feel pretty limited by the 16gb on the M1 so looking to upgrade, the M4 Pro Mini is mighty tempting but I think the updated Studio is not far off and we could potentially see the M4 Max version w/ 36gb or more for similar prices to the specced up M4 Pro Mini & I think the base M4 Studio will be the bees knees

[@Petroscapes]

🎵 All I want is the perfect video editing machine...🎵

[@GordonCato]

I spent a lifetime with PC’s and Windows (Started with MS-DOS 3.1) I worked in IT for many years supporting PC’s. I switched to Mac a couple years ago and have been thrilled. Will never go back to Windows. I use the Mac mini M4 (not pro) and use it for mainly photo editing, although it can edit 4K video without a hiccup. For your needs I would go with the Pro model and whatever upgrades you can afford, to future proof it. As far as a second drive, I use an NVME drive in an enclosure and plugged in to the thunderbolt port on the back. Incredibly fast.

[@RaphaelMatto]

$2,199 usd: m4 pro w/14/20/16 chip, 64GB RAM, 512 SSD, only get 10-Gigabit if you have or plan to have a Synology. 512 SSD is plenty to install Applications. Keep all files / cache on an external SSD raid, or Synology. Internal storage on the mini & all Apple products is a rip-off. BUT: watch the ArtIsRight videos on fan noise on the Mini. When pushed hard, the pro chip heats up quick & the fan is loud. The non-pro chips in the Mini don’t have that problem. For that reason, the Studio is a better option if you really want a quiet desktop machine. If you can wait for that to be updated in June, do that, otherwise there are some deals to be had on the "old" chipset w/that machine.

[@chidorirasenganz]

Tbh the fan noise would only be during a export and would still be a lot quieter than his PC

[@lestu-dio1629]

I'm 55, I have computers since I'm 14, PC all my life except for that Commodore 64. I recently purchased a M1 Max laptop and it blew my mind. It destroyed my Threadripper. Silent, fast, no nonsense. Don't need to reboot every day. I edit video and render for a living. Best computer I ever owned.

[@paulchristey]

I use Mac for media, video/photography editing and producing music but I also use PC's for years for my VFX career in video game development. You can not beat mac computers for media creation, once you learn the basic's of the operating system you will hate PC's for life lol Just make sure you upgrade your mac to future proof it and don't cheap out.

[@GeekyNerdyTechy]

Mac Studio = Done. I spent years with PC till I switched to Mac. While the specs don't always sound top end, the experience of editing is next level - at least with Final Cut. Even the M4 Mac Mini will work well with most software these days.

[@Bradum]

Uses Final Cut. Opinion immediately discredited.

[@waynegrayson4530]

@@Bradum bases his opinion on someone's comment solely on the fact they don't use the same NLE as them = Opinion immediately discredited.

[@waynegrayson4530]

Totally Agree Shane. I switched from PC to Mac back in 2005 and never looked back. I'm still using a 2021 M1 Pro MacBook Pro and it handles everything I throw at it with relative ease including 6K. I can only imagine how fast a new M4 would be.

[@GeekyNerdyTechy]

@@Bradum It's not the tools you use, it's how you use them. Opinion = Amature. If you are a professional in any field, you'd know this.

[@japonskaprowincja]

Switched from PC to MacBook Pro with M1max. Three years later still perfectly happy and haven’t regretted it even for a moment. I do use fcp for editing since then and also would never come back to adobe ! Just pay once and enjoy free updates 🙌

[@InvertedHermit]

Honestly, I’m pretty certain if you go Mac, you’ll be happy. Especially if you don’t care for gaming. It’s quiet, efficient and these days very competitive price-to-performance.

[@hobocyclist]

Yeah bro you should get this, I need an honest review & I trust no one but you

[@TrippyVideosGirl]

The smartest thing to do is fix your PC for cheap, and wait a month or 2 and sleep on it. Until you know for sure for sure what you want to do.

[@kaidiemulan6061]

Time doesnt change decisions information does

[@yawningmarmot]

​@@kaidiemulan6061Salesman detected :)

[@TrippyVideosGirl]

@kaidiemulan6061 Yeah it takes time to get information and digest it Jabrone. As opposed to forcing it this week and regretting it the week after.

[@LouisLuzuka]

True

[@MoonWalkCTO]

He should find a used Ryzen7 or 9 on eBay and 3090's incoming with the 50xx cards out soon. Combo would blow dry his hair

[@ghostgums]

Once you go to one of these little Macs you’ll never be able to go back to a massive PC case on your desk humming along. Get the tiny Mac mini and simplify your life.

[@aelderdonian]

It's the first computer in quite awhile that really does feel like magic.

[@manilamartin1001]

I bought a Mac mini M2 and couldn't be happier.

[@xmeda]

There are plenty of tiny PCs.

[@aelderdonian]

@@rano12321 If you need real power for rendering professional vfx you're not rendering it on your workstation, it's going to the render farm.

[@aelderdonian]

@@xmeda I have a little collection of tiny PCs including the ROG Ally with the Z1. They're not in the same universe performance wise. For example, my ROG Ally gets a score of about 12 in Speedometer 3. My M4 Mac Mini which cost less, gets a score of 48.

[@Omega_Mark]

You know, you don't have to replace the entire CPU cooler, if the fan is bad. Most of them are just attached with removable wire clips. It doesn't even have to be the same brand. Just make sure it has the same plug and is the same size (most likely 4-pin plug and 120 mm size; 140mm CPU fans are less common). Get a fan that has vibration pads in the corners. That fan shouldn't cost you more than $15-20 US dollars (no clue in Canadian doll hairs). That's, if you still keep the old CPU. 5900X requires a bigger cooler. You might as well get Dark Rock Pro 5 (they have 2 versions) for $70-80 US on sale now. Btw, 5900X is very decent for gaming as well. You know you want to try some gaming ;).

[@the_mig]

I use both for my channel .. the Apple switch was the best for KZbin .. to the point that pc can’t compete .. the amount of ram you want is insane so it will last for ever .. I’m using the m1 with 16gb and it’s decent .. Storage must be external man.. And all pc software you would use is on Mac .. I have never looked back and its power is ridiculous especially when your electric bill drops off a cliff because the pc is power hungry like no tomorrow .. Again, never looked back Was also scared when jumping in to be honest but the shared software between pc and Mac made me feel better including all Microsoft stuff

[@raptor2359]

If you relay on windows apps, have lots of accesories and are used to windows, MacOS will hurt you. I tried multiple times to switch, because its more compact, quiet, efficient and powerful but there was always something not working properly. I couldnt change mouse sensitivity, audio interface worked with only specific usb adapter, if you have multiple monitors its pain to get used to.. Lee from Fstoppers made great video on this topic. I would maybe advise to hunt some deal on older M3 mini and give it a try.

[@RockWILK]

I’m telling you, I switched from a PC that was powerful enough to run an airport, and it broke down in the middle of editing a film, a feature, and so I switched to an M2 studio, and it worked flawlessly. Davinci resolve studio, from my personal experience, I resisted for the longest time, but this Mac is unbelievably powerful. I never make proxies. I edit 4K 10 bit 422 files like butter. Vlog. Feature films. Leave your PC behind. :-)

[@MarkD3P]

This.

[@77dris]

Yes. A Studio would be better for him because it's silent. I'd wait for the M4 Studios next summer if possible (though I know he's in a rush) because the entry Mac Studio is about the same price as a M4 Pro mini, but the Studio is silent, way better cooling, better ports, better ethernet, and better GPU. Also do NOT get more than about 500 - 1TB max for internal and put everything on externals.

[@MonicaHolly143]

4k 10bit 422 is easy for majority of editing pc, ur pc is probably cheap or poorly built

[@RockWILK]

@ not at all. It was a da Vinci resolve issue, and rather than go down the rabbit hole that they were trying to get me to go down, I just switched to a Mac because resolve is optimized for Mac. But thanks for the input, it was really valuable.

[@RockWILK]

@ yup. My desk is filled with Glyph drives. :-)

[@DiscoverThailand]

Get the Mac Mini together with the Raycue m4 mac mini hub & stand, it gives you extra ports, matches the Mac mini design and allows you to add an external ssd.

[@LarsSteenhoff]

The Mac mini will save you money on the electricity bill, it requires much less power than a pc and it's silent too.

[@andersistbesser]

And if something breakd it becomes e waste as nothing in a mac is replacable.

[@JayLato]

Buy the Mac Mini and return it in January if you don’t like it. Take advantage of the holiday return policy. As for the usb issue, just buy the usb-c version of cable that plugs into the computer and keep all of your hubs and things the same.

[@Samhertzog]

2 things to consider with a switch to Mac, the interface will drive you crazy for the first few months, and you don't have the easy option of just updating parts in future, you have to buy a whole new computer

[@ElGrecoDaGeek]

I've used MacOS for 10 years now and the interface still drives me crazy. LOL

[@VictorMatsunaga]

If you want to edit 8k videos and future proof I'd get the M4 Max macbook pro 16 inches, the max chips have 2 video encoders/decoders for H.265/ProRes and those make a LOT of difference when editing your videos. The pro chips are powerful as heck but they're not powerful enough for 8k Raw. Edit: Another thing to consider is that the ARM architecture that they use for the Apple silicon has unified the memory used for the GPU and the general system, that's why it's called UNIFIED memory, therefore, everything is much closer to the CPU and GPU and there's way less latency, the max chips also double the bandwidth of the memory, which is also quite essential for video editing. (270ish Gbps vs 540ish going from pro to max) Avoid getting a 14 inches macbook pro MAX because you'll get loud fans and throttling on your CPU/GPU, you would still get fantastic performance, but like 5% less than the 16 inch version with louder fans. The macbitch version also has the advantage to have full performance both on battery and plugged in (jesus christ I sound like an apple fan boy but I really am not, I'm a PC user), but given what you've said in this video and in the previous one and that you don't really care about gaming, the macbook with the max chip might be the best option. I'll probably be getting an M4 MAx myself, 5300 Canadians + taxes, it'll be outchie outchie to my walletie but it'll last me more than half a decade for sure. For me 48gb of unified memory is plenty, but if you want to edit 6 and 8k videos I'd get at least 64gbs Edit2: Lastly, unless you KNOW you need to have storage ON device, don't upgrade storage, use fast speed external SSD to handle your large video files, I've been using a 1050MB/S crucial external SSD for my other channel videos and it has NEVER stuttered even when editing 6k N-raw Edit 3: I love your channel, no homo.

[@bc9am]

Based on everything you said I would say the M4 is probably your better bet given you just want it for creative work, no gaming (with all the upgrades you suggested, minus the 10Gbit Ethernet). I'm not 100% sure of how it is in Canada, but Apple are usually pretty good at allowing returns (if you get it directly from them) - and sometimes an extended return period over Christmas). So I'd check out what the T&C's are in Canada - if it did drive you crazy / not good enough you could always return it if that option is there.

[@SiliconSteak]

The 7900xtx will not be good for editing, amd is not good at supporting creators at all. If you’re really deciding between that and a M4, get the M4. Configure the M4 like this for the best bang for buck. -Max amount of ram possible (you said 64gb it would prob be good) Apples computers use unified memory which essentially means it can use that 64GB as VRAM. -Minimum amount of storage as possible. Use a thunderbolt enclosure and buy storage that’s faster for cheaper. (If you use your ssd on your Mac too much it degrades it and when that blows up your PC is ewaste) -Best GPU you can afford (highest core count) -At least the 20 core cpu. -10G Ethernet would be amazing because then you could make a separate storage pc and access terabytes of data at 1GB/s and not even worry how much storage your Mac has. Just remember this: If you go PC you need a NVIDIA gpu, don’t let the fanboys sucker you into a AMD gpu, you will regret it

[@1armbiker]

Have you used any AMD GPU in the last 2 years? Ever? 7900XTX is completely fine in Resolve, there's no reason to pay the Nvidia tax as a creator unless you're doing 3D ray traced rendering.

[@SiliconSteak]

@ used handfuls of them. They are great at rasterized gaming and not much else. Mediocre media encoders, horrible software support in professional apps, and minority market share so devs could care less

[@poupou5833]

Just got mine today it's fantastic

[@rickmower1136]

I switched to Mac's a few years ago and I am so happy I did, currently use a M2 Macbook Pro 14" for editing photos and it gives me no issues. I do not game anymore and if I want to I have a little bit older gaming laptop that runs the games I play just fine. As others have said get the M4 Pro a bit more memory and you will not regret it. The M4 Pro chip with the upgrades you are suggesting will do what you need and more. The M chips from apple where a total game changer.

[@felixlgrobillard]

Get The MacBook Pro with M4 Max the display is awesome !! And more power than a MacMini M4 Pro...

[@mooksdfe]

That motion blur though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmPboGCeeaiakKc I don't think their Liquid Retina is any different in that regard on the new M4 MacBooks.

[@BenjaminKanarek]

Yessss! Mac Mini M4 Pro. We have it with 24 Go and 2 tb SSD. Incredible performance. It will eat the PC for dessert!

[@neilrocks25]

My day job is IT, I build pcs on regular basis and a lot of software. But for my music and video editing I use a Mac and it works so well and I know I won’t have to think about upgrading for years. Just remember you might have to re buy some of your software. I would go for the pro with the 20 core… you will be fine with 24 or 32gb of memory. I have the 512Gb internal drive and edit of an external SSD. You can get a USB-C hub for you usb-a devices and it should work fine.

[@The_Cali_Dude_88]

Exactly what I bought but with the 2 terabytes ❤

[@fierceflyer5]

Absolutely go for the Mac. You won’t regret it for video editing

[@JetBen555]

The reason why the Apple M chips and Intel CPU are so good at video editing is because they have really powerful built-in hardware encoder and *decoder.* All the Ryzen CPU don't have that, so you rely entirely on your CPU cores to decode your files but they are not specifically built for that, so it's pretty intensive and inefficient. Dedicated GPU can help but the problem is that they don't have really good decoder only good encoder (but GPU are useful to render special FX in real time or live streaming). Exporting fast is nice but what really matters is smooth playback when you're editing high-res or high frame rate 10bit files. The 14900K has its fair share of problem but luckily for you, what you're really after is the encoder (or media engine) found in pretty much every Intel CPU since the 11th gen. So, you can just get a lower-end CPU in the 14xxx line-up, like the regular 14600 or 14700, they have the exact same decoder at a much lower price point and they don't overheat or degrade themself (and just to be clear, even if they are not the best CPUs, they are FAR better than your 3600X or better than the vast majority of stuff that was made just a few years ago). You may also want to consider a laptop with a 14th gen Intel CPU, since you don't want to build your PC yourself. Switching to Apple is a good idea too but Its gonna take you some time to get used to the OS, I don't think you're gonna like that. If you go that route, you just need the base M4 because the media engine is doing all the heavy lifting and its more than good enough for the type of content that you create. (I'd go with the base model for 800$CAD and just use external SSD for more storage).

[@kaptnwelpe5322]

Intel ARC PCIe cards are the answer for that hw encoder/decoder problem. Don't know why Intel isn't pushing hard on that as there IS a market besides 3D graphics...

[@javiergutierrez1031]

Yes. As a user of PC for over40 years. I am a mechanical engineer and switching two years ago to max was the best thing I ever did

[@techmo2020]

Buy the Mac M4 Pro, with at least 64GB RAM. If you check my channel, I do videos similar to yours, just for phones, I used both a PC and Mac Mini M2, Mac Mini M2 Hands down. I do exactly what you are describing, putting 2-3 8K videos next to each other, color-grading them, etc. The chipset will handle it, no problem at all. The only advice I have is to not go cheap on RAM, I don't know why, but my RAM is sometimes at 50GB when I go from 2 videos side by side to 3; it could be a memory leak on Premier Pro. In the last video, I wanted to tell you that you are better off going for a Mac than a new PC.

[@CAMTechChris]

@@techmo2020 64gb of um is way overkill for video editing in DR or FCP.

[@techmo2020]

@@CAMTechChris ​ This is also what I thought, but now I'm sitting on 32GB, and it constantly gets to orange/red on Davinchi and Premier, and I can't upgrade the memory. The OS needs to use Swap, which will slow things down. It won't be an issue for one or two 4K compressed videos at 8 or 10-bit, but when you put 2-3 RAW 12-bit footage next to each other, like what Kasey does, you will run into issues.

[@Flamamacue]

@@techmo2020 So true. I'm on 16gb because I thought it would only be a second machine and while it works well for most things, it's also very easy to max it out. I really wish I had have opted for more, it's easily the most bang for buck upgrade. Not only that, but with the flood of AI based FX and tools that are usually pretty RAM hungry it's actually pretty easy to hit RAM ceilings and get slowdowns. Never been more important to get more RAM imo. +1 for 64GB or more

[@Thirsty_Fox]

M4 Pro unbinned with 64 GB of RAM and 10g ethernet is 3024 CAD, while Mac Studio Max with 64 GB and 10g is 3199 CAD and has double the GPU and media engines, faster memory bus, faster storage, card reader, etc... Just needs its M4 series update coming in a few months. Way better buy than the M4 Pro which has the same media engines as the base 799 CAD M4 Mini.

[@Flamamacue]

@@Thirsty_Fox Amen, that's the conclusion I have reached. Sorely tempted by the M4 Pro mini but I think the M4 Max Studio will be the absolute choice and will be waiting for it.

[@pitterpatterlf]

Crazy to see all the apple sheep flocking. 1) guaranted you can find a jabroni locally to help you build the PC so you don't need the overpriced build prices 2) even if you do go Apple, I'd only recommend the Mac Studio which is meant for work and not for your grandmothers email machine. It will have a much more powerful GPU and more than the 64GB of memory. That also isnt out yet for another 4-6 months. Keep in mind the Mac memory is for BOTH the CPU and GPU so 64GB for both is not enough. The reason the mac mini is so small is because it's a toy. Even the macbook pro (literally a laptop) has more powerful CPU options. 3) as you said the new GPUs aren't out yet either I think the right move is patience. Replace ONLY your current CPU heatsink fan ($20-$30) or go for the whole heatsink & fan with the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ($50-$60). Your PC will be fine until the new GPUs and/or when the M4 Mac Studio comes out. Then you can get something good either way. Patience.

[@megamastah]

> Crazy to see all the apple sheep flocking. The audience is mainly from US, what do you expect? They don't know the world outside of the garden.

[@S14N9LS]

Your cooler (fan) probably just has a bearing issue. It would be easy for you to swap out. Even getting the upgraded CPU and swapping that out at the same time wouldn't be any trouble. We're talking mins. Plenty of places to find walkthroughs on YT. The biggest advantage of PC is just that. If something in your mac were to start going wrong, there's no way to just swap out the part and get an upgrade. You'd either have to pay for a certified "pro" to fix it or buy a new one. You don't even need a whole new system. Buy the new cpu and cooler. Find out exactly what your RAM config is and either buy a couple more sticks to put in or just buy a whole new kit (DDR4) with as much as you want. See if your motherboard has any unused M.2 slots and buy new NVME SSDs for them. Finally, buy a new GPU. Your current system isn't that bad for what you use it for. More ram, a newer CPU, some newer (maybe faster) storage and a new GPU and you're set. You don't even need a whole new system but if you decide you want one anyway, after the new stuff comes out, you already have the GPU, cooler, RAM and storage for a new set up. What's really good about PC is that once you put the new stuff in, you can post your old parts online and sell them easily. The cpu and gpu will be easy get rid of and you'll immediately recoup some of the cost of the upgrade(s). If you wanted to do the upgrades yourself you could easily do all that in an hour (if that). Everything but the cpu itself and the cooler basically just plug in.

[@mattpna]

Video editor here, I am on a mac since 5 years, i will NEVER look back and buying a PC again. Mac is so well optimized, resell price is good, futur proof can't be beat. period

[@RockyColaFizz]

I use both PC and Mac. PC for Gaming, - Mac for editing and Photos. Period. The M4 Mini Pro is all you need. It will crush for you. The 14900k I have with 4090 is no faster in Resolve than my M4 Pro Mini. I have both - and I always use the Mac for video editing. It's smoother, and quicker. It decodes everything including all the Raw and H.265 codecs like butter.

[@LaidBackDeveloper]

There’s no way in hell that your pc is not any faster. You are 100% not using hardware acceleration.

[@RockyColaFizz]

@@LaidBackDeveloper Actually I am - I have hardware Cuda acceleration enabled. I have it optimized for PC Resolve. The ONLY time its faster is on some exports it's 10-20% faster. For actual timeline scrolling and workflow - the Mac is smoother and faster. I am not a Mac or PC fan boy. I have and use both. I wouldn't use the Mac if it wasn't faster. I don't game on the Mac - because that not where it shines. But for video and photo editing - its literally a Swiss army knife.

[@JoATTech]

I kinda can't believe 4090 is no faster in Davinci than M4 Pro Mac Mini ...

[@LaidBackDeveloper]

@ that makes little to no sense. Something is definitely wrong with your system.

[@LaidBackDeveloper]

@ indeed. The m4 pro has similar performance to an rtx 2070 super.

[@haaark]

Casey this video is hilarious. You’re getting really refined in your humor and confidence. 👏

[@caiocesararts7136]

The problem with apple is the storage options. Prepare to live the external SSD/cloud life. And aways make sure that you have the IO that you need (monitors, USB devices, Ethernet and sound devices). Also, you won't have much upgradability. Think about, you have these options today because you have a PC. If you were a Mac user today, your option would be buy a new Mac. 2tb+2tb seems a good option. Tech notice on KZbin have great videos for a creators perspective when building a PC.

[@POGFROGULPOP]

Thats no longer the case for M1/M1 Mac Studios. I recently bought 8TB of internal NAND SSD storage from Polysoftservices for my M1 Mac Studio Ultra. Cost was 952 Euro, compared to paying the 8TB Apple upgrade tax at $US 2100. M4 internal storage upgrades will also soon be available.

[@joesalyers]

The M4 Max in my 16 inch Macbook is basically a 16 core monster with a RTX 4080 attached. The M4 Pro with 20 GPU cores will be about a 4060 range GPU, but the encoders will be a huge difference in your workflow for sure! Macs are great as long as you take the time to set things up and don't try to make MacOS become Windows. Everybody in the audio world uses Macs simply because of the core audio system underpinning the entire OS. But Take you time to learn the key commands and set things up the way you like them like Finder (files app) and the settings and if I can give one recommendation get the Magic Trackpad it will change how fast you get work done compared to a mouse on a Mac. Regular off the shelf mice suck on MacOS. But yea, for the type of content you produce it will probably be beneficial for you to give MacOS a shot. But again just don't try to make MacOS be windows its 2 different ways of working and it takes some time to learn your way around. Kind of like going from the old Sony menu system to the blackmagic system (why would you want the old sony system?) LOL

[@77dris]

I built high end PCs for 12 years. In 2015 I went to an iMac and will NEVER go back to PC. And now with the new Apple Silicon chips, I can't wait to upgrade... nothing like it in the PC world.

[@ElGrecoDaGeek]

"nothing like it in the PC world" - Not at all true. Seems you've lost track of what's going on in the PC space. I have my feet in both spaces and there are pros and cons to both. Most of the Apple pros these days are Perf per what, but Windows/PC-manuf are catching up to the Performance/Power of Apple Silicon. To boot Windows interface doesn't get in my way. 10 years using Finder and it still makes me want to pull my hair out compared to the easy of use and utter utility of File Explorer...

[@CinematicAdventure]

How was an iMac with an Intel chip with poor ventilation, and a mediocre GPU somehow faster than a high-end desktop?

[@npatton04]

Replace your fan for the time being, and colab with LTT! FWIW, if you value minimal sound from your PC, opt for an AIO (water-cooled) cup cooler and replace all fans with Noctua. The cpus you are looking at run a lot hotter than your current 5600 and a standard air cooler will be noisier. Cheers!

[@thesecristan5905]

Sorry, but your question is hard to answer. Macs get their performance aside from extremely strong core performance and high memory bandwidth mostly by optimization with special silicon and it depends strongly on the software you are using and the kind of projects you are working on. Some things profit from sheer calculation power, others profit dramatically e.g. from build in encoders or unified memory. Benchmarks are mostly a hint, but not much more. Not sure how the return policy is in your country, but if it’s the common 2 weeks, then I’d order the unit with 64 GB / 2 TB and test my most demanding projects, comparing those with your current device. But please keep in mind that the M4 max has double the GPU power. It’s the one ment for high end workflows with demanding GPU calculations. Unfortunately it will take time until the M4 studio is available.

[@jorgem50]

pc user here since 2003 when I stopped using Mac. Recently purchased my wife a mini m4 base model for her wedding photography. For photography and basic editing the mini m4 was a no brainer. Paid $499 at costco. For the fun of it I tried it out for video editing and rendering for my wedding videos. Compared to my pc the mini m4 base model was much slower. I'm talking about the render part but the editing was nice and smooth. I think I'm biased and will always prefer my own built PCs over getting a mac.

[@cortical1]

Make the switch. I was a Unix boy before switching to Linux before switching to PCs before switching back to Linux before switching to Macs. I have not switched again after 15 years. There is a reason. Macs. Just. Work. You're giving up a whole world of futzing around with crap that you're not even aware is wasting a bunch of your time on PCs. Leave it all behind and live a better life immediately. Come, my son. I was once like you.

[@toml1087]

Macs just work? I have very different experience at my programming job. MacOS is buggy as hell. Many problems with wifi and external monitors and so on.

[@waynegrayson4530]

@@toml1087 Programming job? Macs aren't meant for that, use a PC.

[@waynegrayson4530]

Absolutely. When you use a Mac for what it's meant to be used for THEY JUST WORK. that's been my experience 110% since 2005.

[@andersistbesser]

​@@waynegrayson4530ja macs are great e mail machines for your grandmother.

[@toml1087]

@@waynegrayson4530 Lol, seems you are true professional. What about iOS development? On contrary, macs are pretty popular for development unless you are limited by technology that doesn't work there.

[@petercofrancesco9812]

I have Mac Mini M1 16gb ram/1tb internal 2tb external. It's 3 year old, it still does the job and I do video editing for a living so any Mac you get you're going to be happy with. Just get one and if you're not satisfied you can return it. Best thing about the Mac mini is its silent, small and fast.

[@peterbak-cinematography]

M4 Pro GPU equivalency: M4 Pro = M1 Max = RTX3060 Ti = RTX2070 Super in pure GPU power. Only matters with Temporal Noise Reduction. LUTs, 8K, RAW, 120fps is mixed use, not GPU heavy load in this case. In every other aspect the whole system is as fast as your mentioned PC, with less power draw, less ports, less footprint, less noise. I still say the Mac is the way, i expect lot of board meeting / rant videos after buying. But it will be the same love as with your BMPCC OG. You would never buy a blackmagic camera, remember? :D

[@staticvideo]

After 10 years of exclusive Mac use, I got my Windows laptop and after using it for months, I have to say Windows is absolutely terrible. The constant popups, the freezes and more. I prefer MacOS to Windows but the lack of upgradeability on my Macs has always annoyed me.

[@OneEarthZero]

Building a pc is better. Also you don’t need to buy ddr5 6000Mhz RAM. The AMD 9950x CPU supports ddr5 5600Mhz RAM. So you can save some money by buying ddr5 5600Mhz RAM. The only 2 advantages of buying a Mac will be it will run more silent & the electricity usage will be lower. The big disadvantage of buying a m4 Mac mini is that it doesn’t have a replaceable SSD or RAM. So, once the SSD dies in about 3 to 5 years or if a component fails, you must throwaway the whole Mac away, which will lead to a massive e-waste dump. This is the biggest problem of buying a mac. In a pc if a problem of a component arise you can replace that specific component & use the pc right away. In a span of about 10 years you’ll have to buy 2 to 3 macs because of the SSD problem. By buying a pc you can upgrade the specific parts individually if you want to upgrade it more. Buying a pc will save you a lot of money in the long run. Also, it will reduce the e-waste dump because you can give away your PC to someone else after you don’t need your PC anymore or you want to upgrade to another PC in about 10 years. PC’s have a much longer lifespan of over 10 years. The only downside of buying a pc is that it will have a higher electricity wattage consumption. So, choose your purchase decision according to your needs.

[@Yixiiro]

M4 Mini actually has replaceable SSD. And If you know how to rework BGA, you can do what Dosdude1 did and upgrade the current removable SSD in it to 2tb. I'm sure it won't be too long before aftermarket options are available.

[@julians6312]

Apple M series "max" chips have greater memory bandwidth compared to the M "pro" chips. The Max series also includes additional dedicated video codec support which makes them better suited for video editing. The Apple "memory tax" makes them overpriced if bought new. Your best bet is to find a good deal on used M2 max macbook pro 14" or 16" with min 32GB RAM, 1TB+ SSD - for less than a loaded M4 Pro mac mini. Macbook Pro's have the added advantage of including a calibrated HDR screen which can be used for decent colour grading for KZbin. I used to build pro-grade PCs exclusively for editing and was fed up with the constant battle configuring drivers. I now run Davinci Resolve 19 on M1 max MacBook Pro (bought used) and have never had any issues for the past year. Put the money you save towards an external Thunderbolt 3 SSD and dock . Thunderbolt 3 dock supports same bandwith as Thunderbolt 4 but are generally cheaper. You're welcome.

[@radiozelaza]

my wife's hair static does really destroy electronics. She's really dangerous

[@INVEDION]

We have experience in both platforms ( and we use SONY camera for video materials ) and it look like this: 1. If you want PC then only Intel ( their processors have integrated graphics chips with great rendering codecs which when you have additional graphics divides rendering between them, so it massacres AMD in speed ) i9 285k ( has the best and latest built-in Arc graphics chip ) + 64GB DDR5 6400MHz or faster ( choose the best price to speed MHz ratio in your shop ), Gigabyte Z890 AERO D motherboard or AERO G ( if you want optic SPDIF audio out ), Graphic card ( everything on level 4060, 7600XT or lates Intel B580 would be fine above doesn't make sense because it doesn't translate to video editing and video rendering unless you plan on doing things in 3D: 3DMax, Maya, Blender etc. ), Seasonic 800W power supply and some nice case - as a PC person you will love Windows :) 2. MAC Mini M4 Pro for video editing update CPU with graphic to 14CPU and 20 GPU, 24GB RAM it's enough, 48GB ( you can if you really want but it will be more than you need ) and 64Gb will be absolutely overkill ( don't go this path ), basic storage 512GB is ok just add externad disc on M2 via Thunderbolt 4 ( you will have the same speeds as on the 2TB drive purchased from Apple ) - as a PC person you will hate MAC OS from day 1 ( simple things in Windows become pain in the as... here ). both combinations for video editing will give you almost identical performance :)

[@charminbaer2323]

Do it. Just don't get the SSD upgrade from Apple. There's already people that can upgrade your storage for much less than Apple, and soon, there will be user-replaceable SSD modules where you can do it yourself.

[@Bill-NM]

User-replaceable SSD modules? Could you explain? Thanks... (also, any way for a Macbook Air user to upgrade ram?)

[@bastiarn]

@@Bill-NM The Mac Mini has its SSD in a slot, as a separate module, instead of being soldered to the logic board. But since this is Apple it's not compatible with any known standard. So you still can't upgrade, since you can't just plug any normal M.2 SSD in and Apple doesn't sell any SSDs individually. There are some third-parties that have been able to create custom SSDs and get them working with the Mac Mini tough. So there is a possibility someone might sell some in the future

[@charminbaer2323]

@@Bill-NM yes, some third parties are working on making SSD upgrades that you can do yourself. They have reverse engineered Apple's SSD modules already, so its just a matter of time before they start producing them. Even before the new Mac Mini, Mac Studio, and Mac Pro, Chinese computer techs were already upgrading the soldered SSD's on MacBooks and the older M1 Mac Mini. Even the soldered RAM is technically upgradeable as well, but this requires soldering skills and some specialized tools, but nonetheless still technically possible to upgrade soldered SSDs and RAM. There's even some guys that were able to modify a MacBook to accept regular NVMe SSDs by soldering on a custom board the MacBooks logicboard and you then just add whatever M.2 NVMe SSD of your choice. The guys at iBoff are doing some crazy work to make this happen. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2SxXq1jjp2Wq9k

[@Bill-NM]

@charminbaer2323 wow. OK. I would love to upgrade the ram in my 8gb M2 Macbook Air - maybe there's hope (but of course there shouldn't have to be hope, the damn things should be easily user-upgradeable - oh well)

[@charminbaer2323]

@@Bill-NM MacBook Air is not that expensive, just sell/trade in. your M2 MacBook Air and get the M3 MacBook Air, it comes with 16GB RAM by default now. Or if you want to wait for the M4 MacBook Air whenever it gets upgraded.

[@misterdeity]

You don’t need 64gb RAM. 48 is more than enough. There are also third party options coming for the internal HD. Look for those vids here and see if you feel comfortable doing the minor work involved. I’ve been editing some pretty heavy stuff on an M2 Max 16” with 32gb and 1TB drive and I’m almost never waiting for the computer to do anything. These things are wicked fast and reliable! Oh, I don’t think I’ve ever heard the fans kick in either. And I use it on my lap. It barely ever gets warm.

[@paulcaskey]

I was PC and Linux for decades. Switched to Mac and never looked back. I'm getting an M4 Mini Pro next. I have an OWC external drive for additional storage.

[@ggzzbb]

M3 and on Sequoia here and yes Reason 11 still works.

[@davemcginlay9218]

If you go the PC route, as a Resolve user you really should get an nVidia GPU. And if you don't already know, your Resolve Studio licence allows running it on 2 machines so you’re covered for a MAC in addition to your PC. I’ve just ordered a MAC mini with the intention of moving away from my Windows PC.

[@cLaunMH]

"and i'll see you again in the next one it's even more fun" i finally got it, i can retire now

[@Creative.visionzz]

Ohhhh ok never knew what he was saying😂😂😂, yes now I can rest too

[@mb-watches]

Worked for a while with a base m1 MacBook Air. This was already pretty good. Go Apple m2 or m4 chip, you’re going to be happy, even if it’s a base pro chip. The new Mac minis are nice. Just go for 32GB and min 500GB SSD, myself I have an m2 Pro max MacBook with 1TB and it’s really awesome. Stay away from the build pc.

[@OnlyCitrus]

Conspiracy man about to be blown away by that Mac Mini

[@shaneriddian7763]

I have the M4 Pro, upgraded chip, 64gb ram, 512 drive (external works fine). I also have a 4090 pc with a 13900K processor and 64gb 6000mhz ram. The mini runs smoother and overall less glitchy, very well polished and efficient with its resources (I use photoshop, Lightroom, Premiere Pro, Cubase 13, etc). Obviously not as good with gaming, but better (or the same) with everything else. 10gb ethernet is good for NAS drives, local stuff on a switch. The mental part can be a little rough (my first mac). You'll likely want to reverse the scroll wheel lol.

[@PhoticsTV]

I switched from Windows PC to Mac *15 years ago.* Since then, I've been using Mac minis for photo editing, video editing, app development, web development, 3D animation… it's been good. But also, I was shocked at the drop in the electric bill. Wow! 😲 I recently upgrade to a base M4 Mac mini. I was astonished at how much faster Machine Learning Super Resolution (image scaling) ran on the M4 Mac mini compared to my 2018 Mac mini. If your main complaints are fan noise and a power hungry power supply, the efficiency and quietness of a Mac mini could be a significant factor in the equation.

[@c0rnd0g_19]

I've been a PC/Windows guy my whole life...until I discovered Apple Silicon a few years ago. It's amazing. There's no fan that makes any noise, all your RAM is VRAM, it just works. There's no jankiness. I still have a headless Windows PC that I Remote Desktop into for work-related tasks which require Windows, but other than that I use my M1 Max Mac Studio for everything.

[@AwesomePlayers]

Should you? Yes!

[@alijafri2022]

Apple M4 Pro Mac mini any day. Its dead silent no matter what you throw at it. Plus it's practically invisible on your desk. I was PC my whole life too (pun intended) and the Mac mini was my first venture into Apple. Best decision I ever made! Oh, as long as you're not a gamer, then it's still PC.

[@SummerBeautyc]

Casey if you want to stay with PC you can't go away from Intel. AMD CPUs do not have built in hardware decoders for H.265 4.2.2 10bit. Both AMD and NVidia GPU also do not have the h.265 4.2.2 decoder, so you must get it from the Intel IGPU. That is the only way Canon lets you shoot in 10bit, so even with an expensive pc like that, without intel you will have issues. Our edits are completely Fing insane and we use an Intel 13700 with a 4090. YOU CANNOT get an INTEL 14900F the F means it doesn't have the IGPU. If you get one without the igpu you will not get the built in decoders that you need. And yes Davinci will automatically use the IGPU or dedicated graphics card automatically. With both and an Intel CPU with IGPU and an Nvidia GFX card you can edit really well. We went with the 4090 just for the Vram, because of how crazy we get, and yes it does max out all 24gb, but we have never gotten the dreaded ( you ran out of vram) error. The PC can definitely make the Cinema Ours

[@geopomelo1890]

Intel cpu can decode h.265 4.2.2 natively as long as it's 13th gen onward. I use a 13600KF with 2070 gpu and I can play h.265 4.2.2 straight from windows explorer. When I try the same thing with other pc's with prior gen cpus it just doesn't work.

[@BryceShamwow]

You don't need hardware H.265 decoding: all my AMD machines handle it just fine in CPU, even back to the 7000 series in my laptop.

[@waynegrayson4530]

Wow talk about making the choice clear. No offense but this perfectly sums up why Kasey should switch to Mac. OK some people LOVE building PCs and that's great but I get the impression that like me he just wants to make videos and not be a computer engineer (and everyone will give him a different opinion, see the other reply to your message), I used to hang out with PC builders years ago, it was a nightmare, there were more arguments over the right bits to use than we had over talking politics and who's to say that Da Vinci has been tested on this exact configuration and will work perfectly? We know that it's been tested on the M4 chips, and it works extremely well (not as well as FCP11 of course but that's made by Apple exclusively for Macs). Ultimately, he'd pay less for a machine that would kick ass and just work, it gets out of your way and just lets you create. At least that's why I switched to Mac back in 2005 and have never looked back.

[@TylerRFelts]

This is so important!

[@geopomelo1890]

@@waynegrayson4530 On the contrary, the choice is quite simple if you go Intel. Just make sure the cpu is 13th gen or newer and it will handle 422 videos. In that respect, I agree with the original poster that editing on newer Intel cpus is great. I am just noting that cpus* with F at the end are also capable of decoding 422 from first hand experience, so there is even less constraint for going Intel. There is no advantage for going Mac or AMD. They are sidegrades at best, like switching from Sony to Canon.

[@MrKuken911]

Been a PC guy in the tech industry for over 2 decades. Switched to a MacBook Air M2 2 years ago. I won’t lie. I’m still at this very moment getting used to the Mac OS environment and I do miss some of the habits I had from my PC years. But this is probably just resistance I have, not fully embracing the Mac OS logic. So I hear your concerns and they’re valid IMO. However, I do not regret it. I love my MacBook and the Apple ecosystem in general. It just works. With indeed the temptation of becoming a fan boy, you nailed it. But mostly for budget reasons, I don’t and it’s fine. At that point if I were you, if you’re seriously considering going for a Mac, I’d wait for the upcoming Mac Studio. The beast is meant for creative works, in video editing in particular. Going from a M2 to a M4 with the new version most likely. And the base version will also most likely be enough, with a lower price than the PC build you’re planning. Just wait a couple more months and decide. That’s what I’d do. That’s what I will do myself.

[@RafalGendarz]

Yes! Best decision ever

[@truecuckoo]

I think the Mac will be better, faster, more stable. Advanced video editing will mostly run in real-time at full quality, with multiple layers in both Final Cut Pro or Davinci Resolve. Memory is crazy optimised, so you won't have to go bonkers there. It will be super silent, and draw significantly less power. A USB/ Thunderbolt hub will be useful, but just getting the right USB-C cable would solve 9/10 cases without even needing a HUB, unless a USB-A cable is built-in on the device. Then there's the "learning Mac" experience. I foresee many rant videos, lol. But once you get up to speed I think you'll come to like it. Back in the early 2000's I was working at a game developer studio, and most developers frowned upon Macs from their Windows machines. Today, most developers I know are Mac users. If cranky Windows developers can learn to like Mac, so can you :D Good luck!

[@ryandobson8456]

I switched from a "high end" PC laptop that could barely keep up with my software to a Macbook Pro M3 Pro and it isn't even comparable how much better the Mac is. The learning curve isn't as bad as you might imagine. If you keep your current mouse, you can have it set up to allow Right-Clicking. I am only a photographer, but the specs of the one you were looking at are way more than enough to do the video work you likely do. Macs are what most video/photo editors use since it is somehow optimized for that purpose. Highly recommend making the switch.

[@TheEverythingMan]

Listen to your boy .. we do the same thing (you just do it so much more lol) go Mac and put this headache behind you. Get as much internal storage as you can and enjoy editing smoother than you’ve ever edited before. I’m still using the M1 Max MacBook Pro and it slices through anything I throw at it. The M4 will be even better and unstoppable for at least the next 6-7 years. Just get Apple care. It’s worth it

[@kaptnwelpe5322]

Before switching to Mac - ensure that your monitors resolution is compatible with MacOS scaling. There are some resolutions (UHD 4K or so) where you might ONLY get a BLURRY picture unless you buy a new monitor too.... . Also DO NOT OVERSPENT on the Mac. Better: buy 10 GB Ethernet card for the PC and use that for CHEAP and FAST storage if possible (room, fan etc.).

[@method341]

with a Mac Mini you can use any resolution. What you're saying only applies to MacBook, no?

[@Thirsty_Fox]

@@method341 No they're correct. macOS is super janky with scaling, especially dissimilar monitors or anything non-retina since they got rid of sub-pixel aliasing. That's why Mac displays are exactly 21.5" = 4k, 24" = 4.5k, 27" = 5k, 32" = 6k. Using 27" 4k causes it to render all assets 5k and downscale or something in a weird way that doesn't look as sharp.

[@JayWalsh]

So I've been doing video editing on Macs for the past decade and recently upgraded my rig. Mac Mini M4 Pro 14-core with 64gb ram. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON UPGRADING THE HARD DRIVE. 512 gb is plenty to store your apps. Along with that, a 4TB LaCie USB 3 hard drive for $150 USD. And a Phillips Creator Series 27" Monitor for $230 USD. All in plus tax, $2800 USD

[@Panarican]

Go for the m4 pro for $1399 just add the 10gigabit ethernet option as an upgrade for an extra $100 you should be golden (or buy a cheap 2.5 gigabit dongle for $15 online). Get a NAS (network attached storage) for offloading large files. Apple charges an arm and a leg for storage.

[@2gr82b4gotn]

I went from my PC, which was pretty damn good, 9 month old 128GB RAM top of the line dell laptop, to a M4 Pro MacMini . I will not even consider going back.No comparison.

[@SC36DC]

I'm still loving my M1 Max Mac Studio after buying it after they were first released. It was my first ever MAC computer after being PC my whole life. I absolutely love how this thing gives off NO HEAT at all. No noise either. My PC, even though it had like a donze fans, would give off so much heat and make my room hot, plus very noisy. I also own a iPad Pro and latest iPhone, so having a Mac, just makes sense. Performance is top tier!

[@JoATTech]

I doubt Mac Mini M4 Pro will be enough for ya. I tried Mac Mini M2 and it was slower than my PC which was almost the same config you have. I know M4 Pro is much better than base M2, but I doubt it will be enough of the upgrade. Wait 3-4 months for M4 Studio. Even M4 Max version will be a killer machine. Although you can check M4 Pro Mac Mini and return it if you think it's not good enough. I bet apple has the same no question asked return policy in Canada (or Amazon return policy).

[@FPVwineUK]

M2 mini vs M4 Pro is a ridiculous jump... That's like saying you tried a Nissan Leaf when people are saying to get a Tesla...

[@JoATTech]

@@FPVwineUK But is M4 Pro comparable with 4080 or 4090 based PC as he compares it too? M2 Mini was slower than RTX2070. I doubt M4 Pro is such a jump. Benchmarks say it's 2x tops. It does not even have dual media engine like M4 Max.

[@FPVwineUK]

@ PC and Mac aren’t really comparable like that… it’s more complex. For instance… 4090 is pretty power hungry compared.

[@JoATTech]

@@FPVwineUK I know I have 4080 based PC, I have M1 MBA, had M2 Mac Mini. But kinda doubt M4 pro Mac Mini is enough for what he needs. But I might be wrong cause haven't touched M4 Pro yet :D.

[@FPVwineUK]

@ you’re talking about 2 year old Apple tech… just isn’t comparable

[@cameratool]

Macs use shared RAM so you want the max memory. Davinci projects that crash out of VRAM on my PC's RTX 4090 will run on my MacBook Pro with 64GB of RAM. Standard 1gigabit Google Fiber will support about 20 KZbin 4k streams. Only get 10G ethernet if you want to turn your old PC into a file server aka NAS. External enclosure option for Mac Mini: ACASIS 40Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure with Cooling Fan, TBU 405 Pro for M1 M2 Pro/Max, Compatible with USB4/3.2/3.1/3.0/2.0, Support SSD Size 2280 B+M M-Key (TBU405 PRO) This is a lot less than Apple monitor: Dell UltraSharp 39.7" 2160p HDR 120 Hz Curved Thunderbolt Hub Monitor Davinci Resolve license allows install on a PC and Mac so you can use both interchangeably.

[@nealken]

Just buy the fan, Ryzen 9 9950x not good for video editing , MAC studio not good for your wallet

[@andersistbesser]

Lol i have a 5800x and its great for video editing

[@tonytfuntek3262]

I started using PC's since the mid 80's and made the switch to a MacMini 15 years ago. They are a lot more stable and less likely to be attacked by a virus.... but not impossible. The Apple GUI is a lot more intuitive than the PC but you will need to purchase all new software. I do a lot of photo editing but very little video so maybe a Mac Studio would be a better fit.

[@BIG_HAMZ]

Don’t get a AMD gpu for content creation..

[@borist.]

Like I said in the previous video, if you’re planning to work on it, just go for the M4 Pro/48 gb/2 tb ssd (even if,you can use an external ssd and save a lot of money). Windows machines are great for gaming, but for working not so much. I learned this the hard way and wasted a lot of money and honestly, it’s pointless to compare them. On paper, my RTX 3070 Ti, Intel 12700K, and 32GB of RAM should have DESTROYED the M1 Pro. But in reality when I loaded 35 4K tracks on DaVinci Resolve on the Mac,it ran buttery smooth. Tried the same on the PC, and it started struggling at 7-8 clips. I felt so stupid spending over 2K on this massive 15kg PC tower with top-tier cooling, only to watch a tiny MacBook Pro outperform it. And my MacBook is the basic model...M1 Pro, 16GB RAM, and 512GB SSD. If you’re still going for Windows PLEASE, don’t buy AMD GPUs for video editing. They’re great for gaming but terrible for editing,just not optimized for it. You’ll end up with a killer gaming rig but a crappy editing pc. All the softwares are optimized for NVIDIA gpus due to their CUDA cores. AMD cards rely on OpenCL, which is less efficient in many of these workflows.

[@TiTech-Kev]

Since you're not gaming, Mac for sure. Thunderbolt 4 for external SSD is plenty good for editing.

[@9911279]

I don't understand the hesitation, you have a golden opportunity to leave the amateur pc world and immerse yourself in the amazing, powerful and professional world of Mac! As a Mac user for years! I recommend that you don't think twice and immediately go for the better option of the two...: the Mac!!

[@Seimstudios]

No. Left Apple Years ago when they decided to be a fashion brand instead of a computer company. You will always pay more for less. Get an open Open case PC, AMD, lots of airflow, easy to upgrade whenever you feel like it without changing the whole machine. Just upgraded mt 1080Ti graphics after 5 years and was done in 30 minutes. While I loved MacOS, in recent years it's because little more than spam for iCloud and a PC has twice the power for 1/3 the cost

[@brendaavillakintzrealtor]

Yes...this !

[@dzyanw]

I hope you get the mac so I can see if M4 can withstand all your editing, I've been thinking about getting an M4 Max, but back in the day the things I tested on M1 Max didn't go as smoothly as everyone said they might, so now I'm forever in doubt and still haven't upgraded from my Razer Blade 15

[@christianjohnson4196]

Get the Mac mini Pro. Bump it up to 64 gigs of RAM. Get the 20 core GPU. Keep the base storage. Keep the base Ethernet. Get a Thunderbolt hub/sad enclosure. Get a 4tb SSD. Get the Apple keyboard & Magic trackpad. Keep your current mouse. Keep your current screen for now. Keep your current speakers for now.

[@andersistbesser]

Base storage? Its so small it could not even hold all the apps i use. Your working drive not being big enough is the biggest pain in the ass i can imagine. I have 4tb internal and 20 terrabyte external. You never did seriuous video work if you think you need less

[@goobfilmcast4239]

Someone already said it...but consider an Apple Store Refurb M2 Ultra Mac Studio. For well under $4K you can get a crazy fast unit ....with 64 GB RAM, 60 GPU Cores, 2TB SSD combined with fast internal Bus speeds for much quicker final rendering. Also supports multiple 8K monitors and 10 Gb ethernet. Consider: It will show up at your front door in 2 days...ready to go out of the box. It substantially outperforms the M4 Pro Mini and since it's an Apple product, will hold it's resale value higher and longer......

[@psvdnm_new]

Bro, i'm a PC builder. Mac m4 is good, but you can build 4080super + 14700K (2TB, 64 ram) at ~2000$. It's much more universal