Should I buy one of these? Craftsman S1800, s1600, s1450 s 1800 1600 1450 chainsaw

[@SVRANDGLD]

Bought two of these almost five years ago. Both still run awesome every time.

[@homopit42]

Those are Zenoah g3800 clones, with 40.5mm bore and 32mm stroke. Probably with cat muffler. They are not strato nor clamshell. You can remove the base gasket and also deck the cylinder if necessary. I have Alpina C41 and Iskra GC401. I like them for doing all kinds of experiments and I think that are great value for the price.

[@novicelumberjack]

Thanks for the info! I did some searching on the net and decided to go ahead and get one. Gonna tear into it soon.

[@homopit42]

@@novicelumberjack I did some searching also and seems like Farmertec also has some clones in this cc range, like their JonCutter G3800. kzbin.info/www/bejne/epWpdHZmmc2CZ68 unboxing and test done by "DIY with Uncle Cy" I did some modifications to my Alpina C41 like removed the cat mesh from the muffler and removed the base gasket. Exhaust port is funny in these cylinders - eyebrow style "}". That tip of the exhaust opens at 104°, which is very different from Iskra GC401 saw: 92° aTDC. Iskra performs more lively for limbing. Torq? Don't ask, don't have any :)

[@KollynJ]

@@novicelumberjackdid you get one?

[@michaelwheadon1078]

Don't sell yourself short ... you are the best DORK on youtube!

[@chainsawcanuck]

Just more Zenoah clones??, no saws are junk.... Lol. Even junk saws have their charm.. Well if you are buying them for 20$ That frontier has one smooth drive train.. 😉

[@mercoldswfo]

I like the styling of it. If anything the bar looks cool.

[@anitahelton4698]

Pulls 18" just fine would like to see ported

[@williambray4134]

Modern plastic Poulans are JUNK. These can't be any worse. Give one a try, and report back.

[@fireflyraven2760]

I had a s1800 for almost two years the only problem I had with it was the nut on the bar plate (or whatever the the piece that secures the bar to the saw) that was it the only reason. I don't have it is because I allowed my dad to talk me into to letting him pawn it

[@R17-k4u]

I picked up the 16" craftsman as a trim saw. It runs great and oils well. I ran it 7 hours during a recent storm clean up. It is what it is and works great as a trim saw. I paid $179. Came with a full body case and tool kit. I like it!

[@aaronpowell4885]

I got the older version s145 last year on a whim. Looks the same to me with different plastics. Not clamshell and not strato! But has a VERY restrictive cat muffler. Mine responded extremely well to a base gasket delete (got it to .018) and Ironhorse style pipe. IMO way better than the new strato poulans in that same market segment! Tho I've only ran about 6 tanks through mine. They're a zenoah clone, combination of g3800 and g4200. Actually, for the average homeowner, I'd say way better value than a stihl ms180 Probably stronger too!😂

[@outdoorwonderlust]

I've had an S160 for three years. No problems. Wore the 16" Bar and chain out, and replaced with 18" Oregon. Been felling 24-30" trees and cutting up. Works great, cuts with the 18" bar no problem. Haven't done any mods, all stock. Yes, it would cut better with muffler mod etc, but I've left it alone.

[@larrystradeski8261]

I bought an 18" craftsman chainsaw from Princess Auto for $135.00.Used it for the first time cutting up a tree that came down in a storm.Worked great,cut through the trunk and branches like butter.

[@wickiuprat]

I change my mind. I think you should buy those craftsman. You run a KZbin channel and they’re probably very popular among the general public would be a good topic on your channel.

[@novicelumberjack]

Man...thanks for that. Yeah, they aren't pro saws...but I betcha there are a lot more questions about these saws than all the pro saws put together. Lots of regular homeowner types out there looking for guidance.

[@DanBlackRacing]

What's wrong with the gas and oil in there each other? As long as you're not keeping them both open while feeling one I don't see what the problem is?

[@Countrysawshop21]

I bought a new 1450 last year and was nothing but trouble. Twisted the crank off in less than 5 hours of cutting small kindling. Craftsman gave me my money back. Honestly though I loved the little saw. Lot of punch for the size and mine started easy.

[@CutterCH]

Red Max had one saw that design. I had a Ryobi in 2015 that was this same design. Red Max and Zenoah were the ones who first had these.

[@brandonblankenship5293]

I have the older version of the 18 inch and I love mine. Its very useful for cutting a lot of firewood. The average consumer just wants to get a tool for a decent price to use for the job. Also, it would be great to compare this to the Ryobi chainsaw. Thanks for the videos.

[@brandonblankenship5293]

Also, I caught a great sale on the craftsman bars a couple years ago and have many in both the 16 and 18 inch. I think you could use either on this for average firewood cutting and home use.

[@aaronpowell4885]

@@brandonblankenship5293 I caught that sale aswell. Just wish I caught it while there were still more on the rack! Crazy low prices! Even for re-branded tri-link.

[@fearghalmorrissey2601]

zenoah g3800 clone ??

[@Barrie562]

I have the Craftsman s160, for 3 years now, and only used it for trimming limbs off small trees, probably 2 inch max diameter limbs and it did the job just fine, starts on the third pull every time when cold and once when warmed, being a novice lumberjack I'm not sure how often you should sharpen the saw, but this one needed sharpening every three cuts, and the chain had to be tightened every few minutes of use. It also leaked out all the chain oil while in storage - the shelf it was stored on is coated in chain oil. So time came (like now) when I had to cut down 8 dead trees - 4-6 diameter trunks - what a struggle that was - it wouldn't even cut them - at full power the chain simply rotated on the surface of the trunk until it smoked. I replaced the chain with a brand new chain and it very slowly cut through the first three trees but that was it - the tree trunks were 3 inches! On the 4th tree the chain just rotated on the surface of the trunk - no cutting whatsoever, not even sharpening the chain helped. Forget about levelling the cut trees trunk to ground level. I don't need a professional lumberjacks saw to do the work around the yard but I really would like a chainsaw that would cut. I just bought the STIHL MS 162 hoping that it would at least cut trees up to 6 inches in diameter, I haven't used it yet so cannot report on its tree cutting abilities, I don't care if it cuts super fast so long as it will cut them. I really hope it works, but before I use it do I really need a professional 800 dollars plus chainsaw to cut 6 inch trees or should I return it now?

[@novicelumberjack]

Okay, so obviously I should have started with this comment. Sounds to me like you are having real problems with your chain, not your saw. If the chain isn't cutting wood...stop blaming the saw. Blame the chain. Sound like you have it on backwards, are cutting dirt, don't know how to sharpen, or a combination of all. You probably don't need a new saw at all, just need to learn your way around a chain. And side note... most saws leak oil when they sit. Learn to put it away empty or sit it on absorbing pads

[@whiskeywhiskey9696]

I bought the s1800 and i have totally mistreated it. Seems underpowered BUT strats every damn time. Totally paid for itself. even took down wet palm trees 36" diameter... straight nasty tree but perfect for this polished duce... get one of these saws to bang on cause it can handle it and its fun!. Needs good gas and bar oil... bar oil

[@fireflyraven2760]

I had one two I wanted to compliment my small line up the s1800 and the 450 rancher the only reason I don't have it anymore I because I allowed. My dad to talk me into letting him sell it

[@shawnglacken3055]

I have the S205/46cc , and I wouldn't call it junk. I've been using it steady for 2 years, and still going strong.👍Can't help on the42cc. Mine runs a .325/20" bar, with minor muffler mod.

[@chainsawmadness7598]

Is any good the jonsered 2186 worrh buying for 400€ in good condition?

[@frankz1125]

I just built an Echo cs 3900. That saw has a similar carb setup. Not sure if its a clam saw. Cheers

[@aprilecotton2060]

Mine was a beast. Everyone crapped on it, until i cut down 40 trees and over 20 cords of wood with no issues. Ran better then a stihl

[@anitahelton4698]

Got one made by mtd yard products nice homeowner saw

[@alexbernier3330]

Looking at those hands I know you punch fast AF 🥊🔥😂Thanks for the review

[@shawncaudill424]

I would love to know what's under the hood

[@aprilecotton2060]

I bought the 20inch for 260. I cut down over 40 trees 12”-20” thick. I cut those into cords. Used 3 gallons of gas, never had an issue. Started first pull every time. I really wanted to take it back, but it never broke. I dogged it down and could not hurt it.

[@72dodge340]

I hope it works out for you, because I just bought the Troy-Bilt 16" (TB4216) which I'm pretty sure is the same saw, but 16", of what you bought. I only paid $140 though. I figure for that price, if it only lasts a few years, I'm good, and if longer, then great. I'll probably fire it up tomorrow. I hope I'm not feeling the "buy once, cry once" mantra by the end of this experiment!

[@72dodge340]

Oh, LOL... you returned it... ok, never mind then! We'll see how mine works out. I've seen a lot of pretty good reviews of the Craftsman/Troy-Bilt ones... Wait until you can get the 16" for $140 or less. At Menard's, they were on clearance, so maybe they're discontinued?

[@aaronpowell4885]

Gutting the stock muffler and Opening it up or building it a pipe will really wake it up!

[@1988MowerMan]

The troy-bilt is the same they are all made or re packaged by mtd.

[@stevepatch1809]

I just bought the 16” for $179 a couple months ago it’s my first saw and I didn’t want to buy something expensive in case I screw it up so for me I can learn and get any mistakes out of the way then buy a good one. I’ve cut a 2 cord with it so far and it’s been great starts right up cuts fine not the fastest but I don’t cut for money just for my stove and with the free wood I’ve got the saw has paid for itself.

[@ragercrepair9301]

I think the black ax saws at Walmart are aluminum case saws. Might be a better cheap saw option. At least have some sort easily modifiable cylinder that way? Just a thought.

[@NothingButChainsaws]

I've got the 46cc version from a couple years ago.

[@rickywest9643]

I would put that craftsman up against any saw you got… I just got the 18inch and it cuts like butter lol… and it starts on first pull. That’s all that matters

[@Randpage]

I have an older 42cc Craftsman saw with an 18" lowpro bar on it. It's...ok? Then I picked up a Husky 390xp for a song and holy jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick! Bit of a difference there lol. Still use the little craftsman for brush and whatnot, and I'm pretty damn sure it is a clone of a Poulan.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

Those are zenoah clones right? I may be thinking of another craftsman chainsaw it may not be this model.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

Ok the zenoah clone craftsman is the S205. I think these are just little plastic clamshells that you were looking at.

[@aaronpowell4885]

Yes zenoah clones. Also not clamshell.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

@@aaronpowell4885 ok so this model is also a zenoah clone? If so, I think he should pick one up.

[@aaronpowell4885]

@@bigfootandbananaman4746 while I haven't had my hands on this newest version outside of the store, last year I picked up an older s145 on a whim and these newer models appear to be exactly the same with different plastics. (Edit) when I purchased mine, they had the new and old models on display. But I picked the older one because they appeared to be the same under the plastics and the older was on clearance for $99!😅

[@lassila3]

I like the videos where Boedy goes shopping at the mall

[@sethlozeau2962]

I think you should get a Craftsman and a Ryobi, just to see what you can get out of them. 🤘🏻

[@artpatronforever]

That is what I am thinking too. Ryobi and Homelite and Black Max are all the same 50cc 2 ring piston engine and a 20 inch 78 drive link chain that is not a low profile. So that is a price point match for a saw that is likely way better and comes with a case. Black Max is cheapest of the bunch but all are the same saw. The 2 ring piston is unusual to find in a cheap saw, likewise a chain not a low profile, and it comes with a case. Was one of these type saws already reviewed?

[@sethlozeau2962]

@@artpatronforever I don’t think he’s done any of the three. Could be good content! I’d be interested to see how much Bodey could crank out with them!

[@artpatronforever]

@@sethlozeau2962 Having easily available interchangeable parts from 3 different brands for the same saw is a good thing too. Black Max is absolutely the same as the Ryobi or Homelite but a lot cheaper for not having green or red plastic artistic trim color panels only supplied as basic black.

[@robertshoemaker6204]

The old sears craftsman saws were made by Remington....wonder what Cheapo Chinese company is pumping those out with the Craftsmans label.These days Craftsman is nothing more then a tool prostitute.....so sad....Shoe

[@Duanepa.2]

Whenever you can, buy the bar length that you might already have chains for. I am always trying to reduce the variety of chains hanging around on nails...

[@michaelwheadon1078]

Just wait until you put a wheel on it! You can raise the exhaust roof by 10 degrees! It is a reversion saw. Eats it's own poop!

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

I'm not sure what they are a clone of but they are the same as Troy Bilt and Remington saws. I've ported the 42cc version just for shìts n grins. If I can put a link here to a before and after vid I'll try. Its not a KZbin vid. The air filter set up is like not running one so you know. I ended up "engineering" a velocity stack on it and clamp on filter. I wouldn't run it without pulling the cylinder and chamfering the ports first as mine was trying to score right out the box. No strato on the one I did. Cat in the muffler. Removable cylinder. Transfer caps. I gave it to the brother in law and he uses the crap out of it.

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

I'll buy a 46cc next and go nuts on it. Because I can. Lol. I have several ported professional saws that are my serious saws done by a well known porter. I do these cheap saws just to learn and have fun.

[@TheShargoth]

Copy of a Redmax G3800. The GZ4000 was the start of the Strato charged saws. Any "GZ" series is strato charged. If you could get your hands on a G3800, and do a muffler port like BLSnelling from the Arborist site. That little 38cc saw will blow your mind. I have a muffler modded 3800 that will blow you away with the power gains you get from it.

[@AndyAlaska375]

"i know they're junk" ....should i buy one? 😂😂

[@jamesh8136]

DO IT Boedy 😂

[@larrywilbanks1610]

I feel you on being a "Chainsaw dork"

[@kristinejackson8268]

The only way you will know how good it is buy it and try it. If you don't like it bring it back for a refund home depot has a great return policy.

[@novicelumberjack]

I bought one and ported it. It's awesome.

[@jimholz1102]

Get a Neotec NH843, a 543xp clone. Port it like Charles did your 4310. And get one of these Craftsmans to see what it takes to make it run good. Have fun.

[@Oouther1]

The NH843 is a POS. My clutch was squealing after 2 tanks of gas, had a warped clutch drum and dry bearings, always took several pulls to start. Company will not respond for warranty work, intentionally waiting for it to run out. Their website says free shipping so I was ordering two pull starts (POS's also) and a full clutch, you try checking out they add $15 shipping. Cannot run mine and it's less than 8 months old.

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

I keep looking at the craftsmanship 2050 for $259.99 at Lowes. I just have to remind myself , I already have to many saws

[@billyb.9878]

I got a 50cc craftsman spinning a 3/8, 50 gauge 20" bar. $75.00 plus shipping.

[@artpatronforever]

Black Max 50cc has a 2 ring piston

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Poulan put 42 cc motors in everything. I have 8. Including 2 craftsman versions. Get it , test it

[@1988MowerMan]

They aren't Poulan anymore all of the craftsman gas equipment is mtd now.

[@michaelwheadon1078]

Starter sucks .... but you can fix it.

[@michaeltrotter3394]

Hey I've been hearing all about the "Supmix 6200 on chainsaw addicts . I'm sure you've heard about them being a good saw with only a muffler mod and re-tune . If you think it's worth a look into, I'm sure more people than just myself would find it interesting . Your call Bodie . I still look every day at different saws , talk about an addiction .

[@jeffreyrudolph5061]

Shindaiwa ?

[@jeffreyrudolph5061]

Would have been an interesting hop up vrs your 4310 .

[@jimmylarge1148]

Are the craftsman good saws? Guilty of treeson didn’t hate it. It’s blatantly not amazing but…..? Anyone?

[@AndyH-13]

You would be right in saying a lot of home owners buy them.

[@michaelwheadon1078]

Not a clamshell and not strato. The 42cc is the best one.

[@anitahelton4698]

You talked me into a Wemars which I'm happy with try 20" craftsman do your magic in today's economy what's 200 bucks

[@jesterjigs9914]

Buy the daMn saw

[@MrHangerone]

Husqvarna 125xp

[@michaelwheadon1078]

Then get a Troy bilt ... beter ports I think. Oh muffler is a cat type cut that out.

[@jjm3254]

👍

[@robertshoemaker6204]

I think you should go buy a lottery ticket instead.

[@wickiuprat]

That’s so funny a week ago I bought a T-shirt that says “the voices in my head keep telling me to buy more chainsaws. And there’s a picture of cross chainsaws. Stay away from those junk chainsaws they’re not worth your time.

[@stonycreek1000]

They are make by MTD.

[@michaelwheadon1078]

1 year ago. OK /// so I am a little late to the party.

[@novicelumberjack]

Did you find the videos after port work?

[@novicelumberjack]

It's a fun little screamer.

[@michaelwheadon1078]

@@novicelumberjack Yes ... that is how I found out what a screw up I was. I just got so excited when I saw you looking at the little saw.. When you turned the truck around ... I was screaming at the computer screen.

[@michaelwheadon1078]

@@novicelumberjack So it did have closed transfers like the Troy Bilt?

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

👍🆙BigGuy

[@nateolmsted899]

They remind me of an echo

[@jamesh8136]

I'm guessing WONG made it.

[@nateolmsted899]

I said, try it

[@dwaynesmith9134]

It's a zenoha clone

[@jerrylyles8999]

Rebranded ryobi.

[@jasonionno]

Who makes such a long video and doesn't actually even use the chainsaw? What a waste of time why even post it

[@novicelumberjack]

Go away

[@larrystradeski8261]

I thought he'd buy one and demonstrate it.All he did was talk about buying one A waste of time!!

[@novicelumberjack]

Yeah, i thought the same thing. What a waste! That guy is a real A-hole! I'm unsubscribing!

[@larrystradeski8261]

​@@novicelumberjackI agree!

[@novicelumberjack]

@@larrystradeski8261 me too!

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Made in China

[@redmanrm1]

I hate this chainsaw with every ounce of my being. Chain won’t stay tight. 😊

[@novicelumberjack]

Something is broken. Find what is broken, and repair it. This is the way.

[@kowski9477]

Buy it, try it ,and then see what you can do with it.

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

Whats your email again @Novice Lumberjack I'll send you some pictures of what I did if interested.

[@novicelumberjack]

[e-mail]

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

Two emails sent. One before porting, one after. I included vid links as the ones I posted here earlier appear to have been deleted.