Should I buy one of these? Craftsman S1800, s1600, s1450 s 1800 1600 1450 chainsaw

[@homopit42]

Those are Zenoah g3800 clones, with 40.5mm bore and 32mm stroke. Probably with cat muffler. They are not strato nor clamshell. You can remove the base gasket and also deck the cylinder if necessary. I have Alpina C41 and Iskra GC401. I like them for doing all kinds of experiments and I think that are great value for the price.

[@novicelumberjack]

Thanks for the info! I did some searching on the net and decided to go ahead and get one. Gonna tear into it soon.

[@homopit42]

@@novicelumberjack I did some searching also and seems like Farmertec also has some clones in this cc range, like their JonCutter G3800. kzbin.info/www/bejne/epWpdHZmmc2CZ68 unboxing and test done by "DIY with Uncle Cy" I did some modifications to my Alpina C41 like removed the cat mesh from the muffler and removed the base gasket. Exhaust port is funny in these cylinders - eyebrow style "}". That tip of the exhaust opens at 104°, which is very different from Iskra GC401 saw: 92° aTDC. Iskra performs more lively for limbing. Torq? Don't ask, don't have any :)

[@KollynJ]

@@novicelumberjackdid you get one?

[@anitahelton4698]

Pulls 18" just fine would like to see ported

[@aaronpowell4885]

I got the older version s145 last year on a whim. Looks the same to me with different plastics. Not clamshell and not strato! But has a VERY restrictive cat muffler. Mine responded extremely well to a base gasket delete (got it to .018) and Ironhorse style pipe. IMO way better than the new strato poulans in that same market segment! Tho I've only ran about 6 tanks through mine. They're a zenoah clone, combination of g3800 and g4200. Actually, for the average homeowner, I'd say way better value than a stihl ms180 Probably stronger too!😂

[@williambray4134]

Modern plastic Poulans are JUNK. These can't be any worse. Give one a try, and report back.

[@mercoldswfo]

I like the styling of it. If anything the bar looks cool.

[@chainsawcanuck]

Just more Zenoah clones??, no saws are junk.... Lol. Even junk saws have their charm.. Well if you are buying them for 20$ That frontier has one smooth drive train.. 😉

[@wickiuprat]

I change my mind. I think you should buy those craftsman. You run a KZbin channel and they’re probably very popular among the general public would be a good topic on your channel.

[@novicelumberjack]

Man...thanks for that. Yeah, they aren't pro saws...but I betcha there are a lot more questions about these saws than all the pro saws put together. Lots of regular homeowner types out there looking for guidance.

[@chainsawmadness7598]

Is any good the jonsered 2186 worrh buying for 400€ in good condition?

[@frankz1125]

I just built an Echo cs 3900. That saw has a similar carb setup. Not sure if its a clam saw. Cheers

[@rickywest9643]

I would put that craftsman up against any saw you got… I just got the 18inch and it cuts like butter lol… and it starts on first pull. That’s all that matters

[@CutterCH]

Red Max had one saw that design. I had a Ryobi in 2015 that was this same design. Red Max and Zenoah were the ones who first had these.

[@alexbernier3330]

Looking at those hands I know you punch fast AF 🥊🔥😂Thanks for the review

[@shawncaudill424]

I would love to know what's under the hood

[@brandonblankenship5293]

I have the older version of the 18 inch and I love mine. Its very useful for cutting a lot of firewood. The average consumer just wants to get a tool for a decent price to use for the job. Also, it would be great to compare this to the Ryobi chainsaw. Thanks for the videos.

[@brandonblankenship5293]

Also, I caught a great sale on the craftsman bars a couple years ago and have many in both the 16 and 18 inch. I think you could use either on this for average firewood cutting and home use.

[@aaronpowell4885]

@@brandonblankenship5293 I caught that sale aswell. Just wish I caught it while there were still more on the rack! Crazy low prices! Even for re-branded tri-link.

[@lloyddubose4814]

I've had an S160 for three years. No problems. Wore the 16" Bar and chain out, and replaced with 18" Oregon. Been felling 24-30" trees and cutting up. Works great, cuts with the 18" bar no problem. Haven't done any mods, all stock. Yes, it would cut better with muffler mod etc, but I've left it alone.

[@shawnglacken3055]

I have the S205/46cc , and I wouldn't call it junk. I've been using it steady for 2 years, and still going strong.👍Can't help on the42cc. Mine runs a .325/20" bar, with minor muffler mod.

[@Countrysawshop21]

I bought a new 1450 last year and was nothing but trouble. Twisted the crank off in less than 5 hours of cutting small kindling. Craftsman gave me my money back. Honestly though I loved the little saw. Lot of punch for the size and mine started easy.

[@fearghalmorrissey2601]

zenoah g3800 clone ??

[@sethlozeau2962]

I think you should get a Craftsman and a Ryobi, just to see what you can get out of them. 🤘🏻

[@artpatronforever]

That is what I am thinking too. Ryobi and Homelite and Black Max are all the same 50cc 2 ring piston engine and a 20 inch 78 drive link chain that is not a low profile. So that is a price point match for a saw that is likely way better and comes with a case. Black Max is cheapest of the bunch but all are the same saw. The 2 ring piston is unusual to find in a cheap saw, likewise a chain not a low profile, and it comes with a case. Was one of these type saws already reviewed?

[@sethlozeau2962]

@@artpatronforever I don’t think he’s done any of the three. Could be good content! I’d be interested to see how much Bodey could crank out with them!

[@artpatronforever]

@@sethlozeau2962 Having easily available interchangeable parts from 3 different brands for the same saw is a good thing too. Black Max is absolutely the same as the Ryobi or Homelite but a lot cheaper for not having green or red plastic artistic trim color panels only supplied as basic black.

[@aprilecotton2060]

Mine was a beast. Everyone crapped on it, until i cut down 40 trees and over 20 cords of wood with no issues. Ran better then a stihl

[@NothingButChainsaws]

I've got the 46cc version from a couple years ago.

[@stevepatch1809]

I just bought the 16” for $179 a couple months ago it’s my first saw and I didn’t want to buy something expensive in case I screw it up so for me I can learn and get any mistakes out of the way then buy a good one. I’ve cut a 2 cord with it so far and it’s been great starts right up cuts fine not the fastest but I don’t cut for money just for my stove and with the free wood I’ve got the saw has paid for itself.

[@ragercrepair9301]

I think the black ax saws at Walmart are aluminum case saws. Might be a better cheap saw option. At least have some sort easily modifiable cylinder that way? Just a thought.

[@anitahelton4698]

Got one made by mtd yard products nice homeowner saw

[@larrywilbanks1610]

I feel you on being a "Chainsaw dork"

[@DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey]

Whenever you can, buy the bar length that you might already have chains for. I am always trying to reduce the variety of chains hanging around on nails...

[@aprilecotton2060]

I bought the 20inch for 260. I cut down over 40 trees 12”-20” thick. I cut those into cords. Used 3 gallons of gas, never had an issue. Started first pull every time. I really wanted to take it back, but it never broke. I dogged it down and could not hurt it.

[@AndyAlaska375]

"i know they're junk" ....should i buy one? 😂😂

[@72dodge340]

I hope it works out for you, because I just bought the Troy-Bilt 16" (TB4216) which I'm pretty sure is the same saw, but 16", of what you bought. I only paid $140 though. I figure for that price, if it only lasts a few years, I'm good, and if longer, then great. I'll probably fire it up tomorrow. I hope I'm not feeling the "buy once, cry once" mantra by the end of this experiment!

[@72dodge340]

Oh, LOL... you returned it... ok, never mind then! We'll see how mine works out. I've seen a lot of pretty good reviews of the Craftsman/Troy-Bilt ones... Wait until you can get the 16" for $140 or less. At Menard's, they were on clearance, so maybe they're discontinued?

[@aaronpowell4885]

Gutting the stock muffler and Opening it up or building it a pipe will really wake it up!

[@1988MowerMan]

The troy-bilt is the same they are all made or re packaged by mtd.

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

I keep looking at the craftsmanship 2050 for $259.99 at Lowes. I just have to remind myself , I already have to many saws

[@jjm3254]

👍

[@jamesh8136]

DO IT Boedy 😂

[@TheShargoth]

Copy of a Redmax G3800. The GZ4000 was the start of the Strato charged saws. Any "GZ" series is strato charged. If you could get your hands on a G3800, and do a muffler port like BLSnelling from the Arborist site. That little 38cc saw will blow your mind. I have a muffler modded 3800 that will blow you away with the power gains you get from it.

[@lassila3]

I like the videos where Boedy goes shopping at the mall

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

I'm not sure what they are a clone of but they are the same as Troy Bilt and Remington saws. I've ported the 42cc version just for shìts n grins. If I can put a link here to a before and after vid I'll try. Its not a KZbin vid. The air filter set up is like not running one so you know. I ended up "engineering" a velocity stack on it and clamp on filter. I wouldn't run it without pulling the cylinder and chamfering the ports first as mine was trying to score right out the box. No strato on the one I did. Cat in the muffler. Removable cylinder. Transfer caps. I gave it to the brother in law and he uses the crap out of it.

[@artpatronforever]

Black Max 50cc has a 2 ring piston

[@user-ih6ss5qt2m]

I picked up the 16" craftsman as a trim saw. It runs great and oils well. I ran it 7 hours during a recent storm clean up. It is what it is and works great as a trim saw. I paid $179. Came with a full body case and tool kit. I like it!

[@jimholz1102]

Get a Neotec NH843, a 543xp clone. Port it like Charles did your 4310. And get one of these Craftsmans to see what it takes to make it run good. Have fun.

[@RMosher11]

I have an older 42cc Craftsman saw with an 18" lowpro bar on it. It's...ok? Then I picked up a Husky 390xp for a song and holy jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick! Bit of a difference there lol. Still use the little craftsman for brush and whatnot, and I'm pretty damn sure it is a clone of a Poulan.

[@robertshoemaker6204]

The old sears craftsman saws were made by Remington....wonder what Cheapo Chinese company is pumping those out with the Craftsmans label.These days Craftsman is nothing more then a tool prostitute.....so sad....Shoe

[@billyb.9878]

I got a 50cc craftsman spinning a 3/8, 50 gauge 20" bar. $75.00 plus shipping.

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

I'll buy a 46cc next and go nuts on it. Because I can. Lol. I have several ported professional saws that are my serious saws done by a well known porter. I do these cheap saws just to learn and have fun.

[@michaeltrotter3394]

Hey I've been hearing all about the "Supmix 6200 on chainsaw addicts . I'm sure you've heard about them being a good saw with only a muffler mod and re-tune . If you think it's worth a look into, I'm sure more people than just myself would find it interesting . Your call Bodie . I still look every day at different saws , talk about an addiction .

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

Those are zenoah clones right? I may be thinking of another craftsman chainsaw it may not be this model.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

Ok the zenoah clone craftsman is the S205. I think these are just little plastic clamshells that you were looking at.

[@aaronpowell4885]

Yes zenoah clones. Also not clamshell.

[@bigfootandbananaman4746]

@@aaronpowell4885 ok so this model is also a zenoah clone? If so, I think he should pick one up.

[@aaronpowell4885]

@@bigfootandbananaman4746 while I haven't had my hands on this newest version outside of the store, last year I picked up an older s145 on a whim and these newer models appear to be exactly the same with different plastics. (Edit) when I purchased mine, they had the new and old models on display. But I picked the older one because they appeared to be the same under the plastics and the older was on clearance for $99!😅

[@kristinejackson8268]

The only way you will know how good it is buy it and try it. If you don't like it bring it back for a refund home depot has a great return policy.

[@novicelumberjack]

I bought one and ported it. It's awesome.

[@jimmylarge1148]

Are the craftsman good saws? Guilty of treeson didn’t hate it. It’s blatantly not amazing but…..? Anyone?

[@jesterjigs9914]

Buy the daMn saw

[@nateolmsted899]

I said, try it

[@MrHangerone]

Husqvarna 125xp

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

👍🆙BigGuy

[@anitahelton4698]

You talked me into a Wemars which I'm happy with try 20" craftsman do your magic in today's economy what's 200 bucks

[@jeffreyrudolph5061]

Shindaiwa ?

[@jeffreyrudolph5061]

Would have been an interesting hop up vrs your 4310 .

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Poulan put 42 cc motors in everything. I have 8. Including 2 craftsman versions. Get it , test it

[@1988MowerMan]

They aren't Poulan anymore all of the craftsman gas equipment is mtd now.

[@AndyH-13]

You would be right in saying a lot of home owners buy them.

[@nateolmsted899]

They remind me of an echo

[@stonycreek1000]

They are make by MTD.

[@jamesh8136]

I'm guessing WONG made it.

[@wickiuprat]

That’s so funny a week ago I bought a T-shirt that says “the voices in my head keep telling me to buy more chainsaws. And there’s a picture of cross chainsaws. Stay away from those junk chainsaws they’re not worth your time.

[@robertshoemaker6204]

I think you should go buy a lottery ticket instead.

[@jerrylyles8999]

Rebranded ryobi.

[@coolestguyontheplanet723]

Made in China

[@kowski9477]

Buy it, try it ,and then see what you can do with it.

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

Whats your email again @Novice Lumberjack I'll send you some pictures of what I did if interested.

[@novicelumberjack]

[e-mail]

[@MrJeepfreak1972]

Two emails sent. One before porting, one after. I included vid links as the ones I posted here earlier appear to have been deleted.