Should I Pursue a New Career or Focus on Self-Realisation?

A man who says he vacillates between realisation and separation has a desire to pursue a new career. He asks if it is advisable to place spiritual practice above all else. Rupert speaks of balance and the confusion between the needs of the body, such as a home and food, and egoic pursuits.
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[@sanekabc]

I don't blame the caller because it is easy to get confused about these things after listening to spiritual teachers who don't emphasize the need to take care of our bodies, our work, our careers, our money, etc.

[@StarLink85]

How many Teachers are out there???

[@hserittg]

I can't imagine any teacher who would say quit your job or don't take of yourself. Not even Robert Adams (who imo is the most "none of this exists" teacher I know of) says anything like that.

[@steletext]

@@hserittg Osho maybe

[@godisgreat4539]

@@steletext osho never ever says so,rather he says experience every espect of life ,he recommends to enjoy life, celebrate life, don't criticize any aspect or form of life the only critiria he sets , do all this with awareness🙏❤

[@divinenonbinary]

Spiritual teachers aren’t your parents and you’re not a child. Meanwhile many do talk about it but that’s like asking a grocery store clerk to give you a hug. They might but it sure as hell isn’t their job

[@cleopatrajones7096]

I floated around for 8 years and gave up my career on the Buddhist path. I wish someone had told(I guess they did) to get a job. In retrospect, I was using that as excuse to escape responsibilities. You can’t find yourself escaping yourself. Get a job. You’ll know about you by working with people

[@sanekabc]

Exactly but they didn't talk about jobs. I blame spiritual teachers for confusing seekers. Enlightenment doesn't magically put food on the table. Glad you found your way to a more wholistic life. It took me decades.

[@cleopatrajones7096]

@@sanekabc I’m so sorry and yes I’m in agreement with what you said. I went from monastery to monastery, majority of us there angry and confused, and from the outside we were considered “serene”. A Zen teacher insisted I get a job but I didn’t listen maybe because he wasn’t my teacher at the time. Much like this guy who’s asking who seems disappointed by Rupert answer. And Rupert is completely right. I know many of the spiritual teachers in zen and shambhala and they are not what they appear to be. And maybe the wandering is also part of the path. It was tough though. And only after getting a job did I realized how messed up I was. Couldn’t function. But that’s something I feel is rarely talked about. Working with people can help provide a mirror that we can’t or don’t want to see in ourselves. I think I’ve learned a lot more from having a job, by it’s supposed stress and impossible timelines, than meditating and holding this image of being strong and warrior like. I’m now more open hearted and approachable. That’s what a job taught me. Hm, I wonder if I can turn this into a country song ☺️

[@zain4019]

@@cleopatrajones7096 Thank-you very much!

[@shay712]

@@cleopatrajones7096 Thank you for sharing!

[@wendymonette9958]

Good comment. I struggle with the balance of being present and fulfilling my responsibilities in a way that makes me happy (ie. using the talents I enjoy to create an income, as Rupert mentions in this clip, as opposed to taking any job).

[@teresadeagle3079]

I clean for a living and I love it and it feels good. I couldn't imagine giving that up right now bc I feel It Is my Passion and Part of Who I Am..Kudos to everyone who stays on the path of their Truth..God Bless..Love and Light

[@tamasorvos8882]

This is so cool!

[@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq]

As long as this body mind is living on this earth we need to work This is the main message of the Bhagavad Gita “Do whatever is expected from you in this world but focus in the actions of the present moment and don’t expect nothing in the future from your work”

[@StarLink85]

There are maybe to much expected from "others"... if you throw a big stone in a pond... we expect a big splash... too much splashed out people are around... if someone throws stones and there are no splashes... what a strange pond... Same with the Moon reflecting it self on the surface and it doesn't make any rippels on the water...

[@melaniebruce3923]

💕❤️ such a loving response .. this is like my pocket therapy lol .. I like having Rupert in my pocket

[@prachikaushik521]

Hehe that's really cute expression Melanie..

[@Tiffanys_Myth]

Wonderful response. We shouldn't let self-realization lead us to avoid self-responsibility.

[@StarLink85]

Here you see the ego badly trick itself... because... there is nothing to realise and in case you are on the spiritual path... you become terrible irresponsive... self realizing is not a ego enlightened... it is you free from the ego... but this has to be a living experience...

[@jordanbickett4062]

Rupert is a wonderful artist in his own right before he began teaching the direct path.

[@zain4019]

He still loves to create pottery based art and does so often:) Just like Rupert mentioned here, he does so out of admiration for beauty and for love.

[@MarcAjaxOld]

I'm afraid I don't know where to draw the line. If I understood correctly, a desire for a meal or a comfortable and reasonable standard of living aren't egoic desires. Yet I feel like from these very basic needs, egoic or conflicting desires could arise with extreme ease. Let's say, working too many hours for better living conditions (even without luxuries), or trying to make even more money so you can have an easier or more relaxed future, maybe leading to exhaustion or overworking and being unhappy in the moment. Or maybe even some sort of desire for prestige or fame in your career - but not to feed the ego, but for a better financial stability. I feel like all these could cause problems in the present and I have a hard time distinguishing the conflicting egoic desires from the ones that are okay and meant for self-sustaining. I'm afraid I might take the last teaching too literally and conclude 'then as long as you have a meal in your table right now, any additional desires could be coming from the ego mind'. I'd appreciate any insights and I hope we can have some more videos on this topic

[@MarcAjaxOld]

@Mooji Sangha Eugene Thank you so much for the kindness and insight

[@zain4019]

It's all about intention. What is one's intention when one wants what is called fame? Is it to become known and accepted, thought of as incredible by others, standing out from the crowd, or is the desire to help the most amount of people in the way one can? Is ones desire to become a musician fuelled by an urge to become a someone in this world, drawing attention, or is one's desire to bring peace and joy as many people as possible, to all those that find one's heartfelt love in what one has created? As a more extreme example, let's take business. Business is often seen as anti-spiritual. In some cases, it is like that, where one is after the money, the profits, the reach, the returns. But one can run the same business with a knowingness in them that the reason they do this work is so it can employ others who are able to feed their families, where one is devoted to the wellbeing of the world and the people that work there, where one product, no matter what it is, is seen to help the world in the ways it does. These positives are emphasized and are seen as the reason for one's endeavours. This takes a re-contextualization, an understanding, a giving of one's gift to the world. It''s simple, and if one is willing, this shift in perception can be had. From this understanding, love by itself is poured into the work and goodness comes forth. If you're curious about this, search David Hawkins on KZbin, an absolutely amazing spiritual teacher. Here's a link to a video about the topic: /watch?v=lVIv94csqJM I hope this helped:)

[@MarcAjaxOld]

@@zain4019 thank you so so much. That is extremely clear

[@wendymonette9958]

If you can recognize the difference between when you are in the mind, as opposed to when you are aware, this can help you to let go and flow with life. There is no strategy, you are never making a mistake, all actions have wisdom in them for you to benefit from. Focus on how you feel and this will help guide your way: when we overthink to search for a solution to something that confuses us, we feel some sort of discomfort; when we pose a question and release it and trust that in some form the solution will rise (without expectations of when and how the answer will come), we feel a sense of ease and comfort, because we have released doubt. It is difficult to move forward on your path when we don't trust that the answers are within us, not without us. But it is difficult for many to balance self-care/responsibility in society and letting go and trusting that we are more than just physical bodies and minds. There's no magical arrival point: it is a continuous path and dance, that's what makes it beautiful. When we see it as a struggle, we are identifying with the mind. Hope this helps? xo

[@wendymonette9958]

@Marisse Lee Well said.

[@heyyou209]

Thankyou Rupert this has been a battle I've had for a while now. It can now be left alone. Thank you

[@StarLink85]

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[@juliai3956]

Thanks for asking the exact question I needed the answer for, sir. And thank you for answering so beautifully as always, Rupert.

[@StarLink85]

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[@margathea7072]

When the Truth is expressed so simply and beautifully; it does not get any better than that . Thank you Rupert thank you Josh .

[@StarLink85]

Truth can't be expressed like coffee beans...

[@margathea7072]

@@StarLink85 when heard in the Heart it is unassailable. Of coffee beans I know nothing

[@edw5437]

this is my question too! I also have some kind of confusion about this matter and little has been spoken about it! I hope Rupert will talk about it in much vaster way! about this disorientation that comes with awakening, not knowing what I want to do, spending time just stabilizing in awareness because too much is coming up emotionally or something

[@StarLink85]

OMG there's nothing as stabilizing in awareness... awareness is first then comes everything else...

[@edw5437]

@@StarLink85 True!! but as awareness deidentifies from those things you referred "everything else" thought, emotion the belief that I am this body mind (because we start life as a baby then as we grow up identification is inevitable) then we come in to contact with spiritual teaching! if the teaching really work death is inevitable to the identity we built up, and its a kind of process dealing with our childhood trauma and deeply pain full stuff, toxic emotional stuff, it brings up what needs to be dealt with and one couldn't dismiss it by saying "OMG there's nothing as stabilizing in awareness... awareness is first then comes everything else.." i wish its that easy our mental emotional stuff is much more complicated than that but again it heals it self if it is given attention and time. that understanding "

[@edw5437]

@MFA that understanding "there's nothing as stabilizing in awareness... awareness is first then comes everything else.." is the first step in the direct path when you really get this all the stuff start to come up old matters that needs to be dealt with its like internal emotional roller-coaster if one is told! its good, so one start to deal with it but if one is not aware of this side of spiritual awakening its feels like some thing is wrong but of course nothing is wrong healing is taking place, but its not all joy and peace in this process one learns to accept all polar opposites of experience and realizes they are all part of the screen

[@Misslotusification]

@@StarLink85 I think what some call 'stabilizing in awareness' is what Rupert calls 'abiding in, or rather as awareness'. He refers as well to the 1st stage of intellectual understanding of non-duality, followed by 'peeling the layers of sometimes decades of contraction in the body.' But you're right, awareness is 1st and then comes everything else.

[@oliverbuc1307]

Can't wait to read the new children's book. How lovely :)

[@Misslotusification]

In case you're looking for spirituality for kids, Eckhart Tolle has done one with Mutts, called The Gardians Of Being. He did another one with a tale, as well.

[@davidhollyfield5148]

Once again, with the usual awesome synchronicity, Rupert answers the very questions that I've been grappling with. Without my even knowing that I was pondering them! So, it's OK to make a living from my art and it's OK to need a house and a car (so that I can get to my places of work)... Total validation. Brilliant!

[@StarLink85]

The ego always needs validation... to explane its existence...

[@CristianMartinez8x24]

@@StarLink85 okay and your point of typing that?

[@StarLink85]

@@CristianMartinez8x24 pointlessness...

[@CristianMartinez8x24]

@@StarLink85 could u go more in depth?

[@StarLink85]

@@CristianMartinez8x24 well... how to explane that witch is boundless... beyond the concept of boundlessness...

[@graceandangels]

The questioner sounds lazy and unmotivated.. running away from life.. rupert stern energy here was sooo needed!! Absolutely amazing ❤

[@Bnorma11]

We need more artists and less corporate people!

[@MrEric23]

love such genuine conversations between Rupert and honest people🙏🙏

[@alainfranken7081]

I feel you are talking to me. I struggled with the same problem! Thanks Josh and Rupert!

[@emendatus1]

Good response. Like a father.

[@wojciechstefaniak3541]

I was in this mindset about 1 year ago but the financial pressure to support myself kicked me into gear.

[@kwixotic]

Rupert's advice is very much along the lines of what the Buddha recommended.......no need for one to cut oneself off from society. However if it's the fate for one to undertake a monastic lifestyle that's simply a matter of fate or destiny.

[@rationalmystic5]

This video has come at such a right time. We all need to focus on the term ' earning a living '. Go on earn well and pursue what u love and makes u come alive.

[@snapcracklefizzle9954]

good one

[@StarLink85]

You dont know what you love... and earing a living becomes the most difficult thing in the world... with this much brain if you dont be able to earn a living ... than by what???

[@divinenonbinary]

Path of least resistance and most excitement always 😌🙏

[@NickBatinaComposer]

Josh, go for it mann!!!! The path is there, and if you have the ability, DLC enlightenment comes with garnering the artistic skills!! (Hence the tortured artist, those who had a glimpse but hadn’t been able to sustain it) I hope you see this, from the other end of the table! Combine your skills together into one, and through that synthesis, the trueness that comes will act as the glue! I got lulled into this illusion too, it’s so easy to with abstracted art since the utter historical perfection bears on you knowing that artists (Rothko comes to mind for me) had attained perfection within themselves. The two bodies run in parallel to one another, in this case your Josh self and Artsy Josh Self I guess, and will electrify your progress in both as they begin to sync up, but that sync only happens by moving forward to ingrain that realization in ya bones my homie I didn’t want to be that guy, but if it helps to hear it from another artist that you’ve already won “the game”, so be it!! On another note, it is really reassuring that my own newly-found bodily prioritization is the right way to go, generally speaking, I’ve always wondered abt whether or not attending to the physical body was truly all the hype 😂 glad this fella is around, he’s got laser accuracy with language, like a bodymind comb, clearing up all the knots left over when beginning a new cycle!! Ciao buddies 🤙

[@evedotcom]

In a similar place to the questioner. Loved the response. Thank you.

[@slove444]

I think it’s also important to note that many self realized people have also taken time to just be with themselves.. Eckhart Tolle, Ramana Maharshi, Mooji come to mind. Ramakrishna said “Lord, grant that my work in the world and for the world may grow less and less day by day, for I see that my work growing manifold only makes me lose sight of thee.” (Gospel of Ramakrishna) I’m not saying to evade responsibility but for some if you have the means to live in a state of non doing for some time it could be beneficial.

[@SedonaMethodPlus]

Me too! I need it now too. He spoke about this on a recent retreat too and it blew me away. I have been so easily influenced by spiritual teachers who claim that it will all work out just because .... (you follow their teaching).

[@StarLink85]

Who says so??? Please elaborate... misfortune again from mr.mind

[@anthonylambert6085]

Hi Sally,can u pls share more about what rupert said in the retreat?tqvm

[@SedonaMethodPlus]

@@anthonylambert6085 He said that wanting to meet your needs in life is not egoic wanting and needs to be accepted. He made a really clear distinction and said that nothing needs to be done with wanting to live comfortably. Not until it becomes 'I must have a big house! The best house!" and then we know that this driven by lack/separate self and can be examined.

[@cinammondream]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. Both asker and Rupert Spira. I am aiming to become a software engineer. I know it's come from the Universe. I was having my doubts and this video has really helped.

[@ReshmaPatra]

Completely agree with Rupert Sir. I've experience that self-realization happens faster with more intense & dynamic "activity". It's easier to relate to Advaita Vedanta where the answer is clearly stated: Self-realization happens with a balance of ALL 4 Yogas :) Career, Soul-work, Personal projects, Meditation, etc. all constitute towards DROPPING of ego // desires & helps us liberate ourselves.

[@chitrapolansky]

the chances of getting completely enlightened is slim to none so do your best with your life..certainly purify your body/mind complex and your environment..chip away it might take lifetimes..

[@AndreaNYC]

2 things, as a long time follower of your work, interesting to hear from another illustrator. I’ve felt joy all my life to be able to earn my living this way. Second, I wish I were collaborating with you on a children’s book! I often think about how to incorporate this teaching into a picture book with an appropriately light hand. Thank you!

[@anabreseneuman]

The Relative and The Absolute are not separate. Therefore, whilst we are in a body and live in a world, we can express our service and provide for our bodily needs and desires. Ego is seeking happiness through external things, the problem is not with the outer world itself.

[@kristenwilliams9123]

Where were these words 30 years ago when I was in art school?!!🤣🤣🤣🥴🤪

[@paulbrodie331]

I was just going to share this video with you. The title seemed relevant to what we have been talking about lately. This is the first time I have ever come across someone I know in real life in a youtube comment. It's surreal for some reason.

[@zain4019]

@@paulbrodie331 :)

[@dipper888bp]

They were in the books you weren’t reading yet.

[@kristenwilliams9123]

@@paulbrodie331 that's how we roll, Paul

[@kristenwilliams9123]

​@@dipper888bp Indeed!

[@blinkmusic88]

I think I relate.. this video reminds me of how I feel about my job. Like I'm sure many others feel, I'm not content with it. It brings food on the table, but I feel within my soul, that I'm living in resistance. I feel this anxiety that begs me to do what I'm passionate about. But like this man, I'm passionate about art and philosophy and hiking and just seeing the world.. I just don't know how to make that a career. It seems very rare to find a job within that field that could sustain my life financially. And with bills and life, it's not like I can wait for the opportunity to arise. Furthermore, I'm passionate about art, but not very good at it. I know that's only an opinion of myself, but realistically, I know I'm not skilled enough to aquire a job. I don't doubt myself, I just understand my limits, tho I hope to improve. If our true nature is love and happiness, then why would it ever be right to do work at a job you don't like, merely to survive? What's the point of survival, if your goal of happiness is cut off by a need to survive?

[@alenak2256]

The resonance I get from this is amazing - Rupert's video shows up just when I have a question. Sending my love to dear Rupert and all ya'll🥰

[@reicrystalline2506]

yes, i have family & desire to make a living however the body itself doesn't support any income I've seeked out so far, it rebels with illness. At the same time I'm not eligible for compensation. so the spiritual approach is the only possible response currently, to balance what is there.. I would love to find something i love to do. haven't found income from the current things i do enjoy.

[@johnb8854]

*Self-Realization, is when "AWARENESS" i.e. "The Real Self" becomes SELF-AWARE, that is to say,* *when "AWARENESS" becomes "SELF-AWARE" !*

[@DazLeon]

Yes yes yes! What a powerful conversation! ❤️

[@StarLink85]

If there is an identity that feels very powerful... not at all

[@Risheei]

@@StarLink85 the true self is all powerful but under the influence of ego, we don't realise the power of our true self.

[@Latte11114]

This subject is something thats needs to be adressed. I also struggle whether its spiritual to love movies, books, music or football. Perhaps Rupert could elaborate these matters thoroughly.

[@StarLink85]

The problem here is ... that you devide something in to spiritual and not spiritual... watching move can be super spiritual!!!

[@chrisman5493]

@@StarLink85 Gah... I needed to hear this. How in the world on our quest for wholeness do we come to make such sharp divisions in our lives? I don't know whether to laugh or be angry. Both feels appropriate haha

[@SarahArtist82]

I feel that Love can shine through these things back towards you...especially music.

[@warmhit]

Here's what I learned about this.... Do what is needed to be done in order to survive. What you love doing may not ensure survival of you or your family. Financial system is governed by the demands and the values of the society not by what we value or love. We need balance between practical needs and freedom. We can do what we love but if we feel resistance in doing things that are needed that's a delusion that by doing something we love we will be joyful. Thats the trap. All this hustle is about attaining a state that are joyful without external stimulus and then our joy flows into whatever we do.

[@StarLink85]

Not bad... not bad... if you do things willingly... that's your joy... if you do things unwillingly... that's your misery... then the doer hase to be removed...

[@SustainableOffGridCommunity]

I've been here. Its so tricky to navigate that mindset.

[@StarLink85]

This much Grace is hardly to overlook !!! deeply connected - to - from and as this!!!

[@hemispheres500]

All creativity comes from the soul and is not connected to the ego in anyway. The ego is a character we portrayed and is temporary and is in no way real other than our belief that it is who we are. We can argue that it is part of who we are but that is only if we believe we have a soul (another part) or if we believe we are a soul. Enlightenment is knowing unequivocally that you are a soul. The persona ego is pointing to this but just as this young man in the video did. He believed his thoughts of creativity were ego based. Ego can attempt to claim creativeness but as soon as it enters the fray creativeness ceases. We can see this played out in our own lives.

[@StarLink85]

Here someone made his homework...

[@noreenjenny7039]

Thank you Rupert for your heartwarming responses. Grateful ❤🙏 my heart rejoices! 🌹❤

[@annasun_art]

Omg this is me 😭😂 I’m an artist and sometimes think about this too! ❤️

[@rajkaur8600]

Beautiful response as always 🙏🏽♥️🙏🏽♥️🌅

[@smokaduke2527]

I think the questioner may not have known that Rupert is a famous potter & ceramic artist.

[@swaroopsri21]

Thank you beloved Rupert ❤️🙏 Means a lot!

[@dipper888bp]

Wise livelihood. It’s a process.

[@JonnyChaos]

What if it's a desire for food cos the body is hungry, but the desire is for junk food!! Junk food must be none dual hahah cos it nourishes the bodies needs but caters to the egos tastes. Only joking, I think Osho said it well, if you satisfy whatever the craving is and you immidiately feel bad afterwards, then it's ego.

[@admininfo536]

This is the same as a block around money and wealth. I’d recommend reading The Science of Getting Rich by Wallace D. Wattles because it beautifully reframes our relationship with money in a way that is in alignment with the advancement of all life. Rather than seeing it as a toxic, manipulative tool (or what have you).

[@StarLink85]

Allan watts is talking here...

[@chimdi]

This was exactly what I needed to hear!

[@ZenMountain]

If you're still asking that question, you should pursue your "career".

[@DanielColageo]

Wonderful. Thank you, Josh. Thank you, Rupert.

[@Joo0boz]

Glasses looks good on you Rupert ! Thank for this teaching.

[@musicalarchitecture7875]

Thank you for asking this question Josh

[@innerlight617]

Be aware of the following and do whatever you feel like. " we are parts of the material world where everything is interconnected,which material world is a representation of a dynamic aspect of Consciousness."

[@StarLink85]

With out clarity... feelings are heavy curuptet...

[@dudeabideth4428]

Such a beautiful response. And it was even unexpected. Even the desire for enlightenment is also a desire of the ego right since we are always the self ?

[@108lukas]

Seems so right!?

[@Misslotusification]

Rupert makes a difference from what he calls 'the sacred longing' and egoic desires. However, I agree the lines can be blurred if we're not cautious.

[@pushyamistry9084]

Rupert is working on a children's book, sounds amazing 👌🏻

[@RamSamudrala]

It depends on how you feed the body, etc. No one needs more than a certain wage in this world to just live simply but if you want more, then you go after more. I'd say all that is egoic. If you're continually increasing comfort, even if that is for your body, is that egoic or not? I'd say once it is past a minimal survival comfort, chances are it's the ego. You can easily tell. If you do it in service of others, unlikely to be ego.

[@wesleygovender6579]

Before awakening. chop wood, carry water. After awakening. chop wood , carry water.

[@mangalsingh2050]

Self realisation must.

[@andrewhussey8702]

A good dose of reality from a very clear Guide

[@StarLink85]

Can you buy these doses like cookies ???

[@andrewhussey8702]

@@StarLink85 Just swallow them hook line and sinker. Better than any vaccine !

[@thomasdeegregory3292]

Conveying our understanding....

[@TheSinnah666]

Does an enlightened man believe there is a pandemic, or is he just playing along here?

[@Misslotusification]

I'm not totally sure about what his beliefs are about the pandemic.

[@annd8396]

Why is this an “either or “ situation? You can realise yourself in pursuing your life goals..

[@pratik6342]

Perfect...you can always go for AND, There is no need for either or..

[@katorious9076]

I love these teachings. One thing I’m having a hard time understanding is, I am also a student of A Course in Miracles. I am in the lessons which talk about how we are not a body. That the world we look at with the bodies eyes isn’t there, that we created it with our thoughts. In the course it teaches that the body itself is a construct of the egos thought system. “Nothing real can be threatened, nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of god.” So in this teaching it is stated that we should look after our illusions up to and including the body. The body, the egos final idol. So I’m not sure on this one. Insight would be appreciated. Thank you 🙏🏻

[@zain4019]

As Rupert has said, from 3:27-3:54, the ego is a belief. It is the belief that 'I am the body'. This belief is what ACIM means when it says we look upon the body as an idol - we see it as ourself, when in fact, it is not. To take the body as an idol is to believe that one is the body. To look at all with love, for ALL is God - everything - to see all with love equally, including the body and the ego, is to live in the peace of God. How can we live in peace and love and exclude? The ego is the one that excludes, the ego is resistance, the Self, our true Self, loves everything as it is, without words. As the course says, "Forgiveness…is still, and quietly does nothing…. It merely looks, and waits, and judges not". Our true Self is incapable of judgment. It loves all things, exactly as they are. If the body was one and the same with the ego, our death would mean the ego has died. It doesn't, it finds another body. And what is the ego? It is identification with thought, the first thought being that one is the body. As the Course says, we can see the falseness in this belief by loving, by forgiving.

[@katorious9076]

@@zain4019 thank you for this!!

[@katorious9076]

In the course it is quite persistent in the idea that you are not a body at all. That literally everything you see is a projection including your body. I feel this to be true. The line begins to blur. If God created in his image. Is God a human? Is God consciousness. Like a wave in the ocean is still the whole ocean, if the wave made a story about itself it wouldn’t change it. The ocean wouldn’t even notice the story. It just continues being the ocean. It’s not trying to figure out what it is or what it’s going to do in 10 years or retirement. “To be told that what you do not see is there sounds like insanity. It is very difficult to become convinced that it is insanity not to see what is there, and to see what is not there instead. You do not doubt that the body’s eyes can see. You do not doubt the images they show you are reality. Your faith lies in the darkness, not the light. How can this be reversed? For you it is impossible, but you are not alone in this.” Scripture from ACIM lesson 91

[@StarLink85]

This is when missunderstanding is multiplied... you come up with all this comments... a lot... a lot of cemetery...

[@ed8311]

So why does my body feel so wrong when making a business out of my art? I am struggling with this as well, and I don’t think it is wrong to make money on my art, it is just how I proceed in that path, and at the moment struggling with this. I understand his question and I have the same desire to proceed with art and business from a free flowing perspective, but I can’t seem to find the balance. Maybe it is just tons of old beliefs coming up in this whole process.

[@graceandangels]

Yess just old beliefs that aren’t even yours.. so much negativity and egoic narratives are floating around in this society we live in.. “money” is a biggg wound we all need to heal ..

[@vladn6031]

Thank you Rupert.

[@andrewkowalski3976]

I agree we need balance but if you have a limbic imprint of separation subconsciously you will have a strong desire to recover from the illusion of separation and will attract periods of suffering to realign you with source/creator. You need keen spiritual awareness and tools to deal with these episodes of suffering or a person may not see beyond the suffering. The extensive inner work involved can take precedence in ones life because you begin to understand that until I am right with myself and God/Source/Creator the things/experience/feelings I wish to create are likely to remain out of reach.

[@Manofvalue525]

8:00 golden

[@zain4019]

Thank-you very, very much Rupert. This was something that had been with me for a while, and now you've answered it with love and wisdom. Thank-you. I believe after listening to this that one can ask before one does something, does this come from love or lack? That gives the answer. I wish the questioner best of luck!

[@Misslotusification]

« Love and do what you want. » Saint-Augustine

[@Shaoming2]

Thank you!

[@erocker4]

Oh my god I’m very excited for Rupert’s children’s book! I wonder what age it targets 🤔

[@dudeabideth4428]

Ah there is more to this. I thought Rupert never stepped out of non duality in conversations. Now, how do I differentiate between the love for my job vs ego s lack ? I think you need to be privileged at some level to have a job you love as your vocation. Right ?

[@onnokroes6172]

Focus on self-realisation. It is what you and everybody is here for.

[@StarLink85]

I'm just here for fun...

[@onnokroes6172]

@@StarLink85 Where you focus your attention is where your energy goes to. Focus on fun outside yourself, you get fun gone, fun gone, fun gone. That's where you get those sad eyes from. Focus your attention inward and you get into the mysteries of life, and consequently your life. It is very active; not like meditating for ages. The world out there is like it is because of all the people that don't know what to do with their lives. Bit like a madhouse. It is about going your own way.

[@onnokroes6172]

@@dcktater7847 Focus your attention inside yourself. You are looking for yourself. Outside is presidents and pornography, and economics, and rovers on mars, and the salvation army, and the political party for trees, and cabbage and carrots. Outside is made by all the people who don't know who they are, and are not looking for it. Get out of there.

[@onnokroes6172]

@@dcktater7847 Where you focus your attention, is where your life-energy flows. Focus your attention into yourself, first your body, will make things come up inside you, that are like selforganizing in finding out what is real. But it can seem frightning to not be occupied with the outer world. Your outer world is your body, go further, and you are in the illusion , adding to the illusion.

[@onnokroes6172]

@@dcktater7847 What i mean is that there are a whole of people who think they are seperated from themselves, others and everything. This is not true. We create our own reality. If you got a a mass of people believing something that is not true, they create something that is not true. An outer world that is untrue, an illusion. The way to solve this is not by going into that illusion and trying to fix it. But by going inside yourself and see that you are not seperated from anything. The change really is in every individual.

[@VedantaKesari]

"Seek ye the Kingdom of God first and all these things shall be added onto you." Study the life of Swami Rama Tirtha. Nonetheless there is nothing wrong with earning money just don't believe that you are doing it. Follow your calling. "Everything is accomplished by taking the Name of God."--Neem Karoli Baba. Also study the life of Swami (Papa) Ramdas ("In the Quest of God" and "In the Vision of God"). Krishna and Shirdi Sai Baba take care of Their devotees' needs.

[@sarali4944]

Just gorgeous

[@kggold299]

This guy how do you contact him, i am going to write a book and would like a drawing for the cover

[@tomburdick7093]

Go on his website u can get in contact with one of his team or something

[@zain4019]

Are you talking about the questioner or Rupert?

[@kggold299]

@@zain4019 im speaking of the questioner

[@kggold299]

@@tomburdick7093 the questioner?

[@StarLink85]

This book must be something like... harry potter and the holy self realization...

[@Asa-gu1ot]

So beautiful 🌺🦋

[@ClarityJustin]

Thank you!! 🙏

[@bernardopl5902]

Why would it be egoic to “ignore that desire”? 4:19

[@nickbaigent2714]

But I can’t tell if my vocational calling is an egoic thing or not

[@dhananjaysharma2613]

Beautiful

[@chandruambi]

This is of intrest to a lot of us :) . Thanks a lot. But it makes me think who is the doer here? Ego or the Self?

[@suzidiamond]

When eyebrows the net for those wiggly hairy jobnies my eyebrowzerr

[@863mes]

Lovely🙏

[@arleenshamon9685]

Would love to ask him a question ??anyone know how

[@sergioanchondo126]

My issues with working for “money” (as one may have not much choice out of the gambit) was, what my “labor” was contributing to AND what power the money had and what butterfly effect was my ass unwittingly “involved” or “invested” in Slave wages, slavery, genocides, wars, incarcerations, indoctrination, special interest, False rite of ownership doctrine that will cause me to echo the EGO of past ignorance ie the need for ownership of land blah blah blah the white man still talks of “making” a living when one is already “made”... Not teaching one to fish but teaching them to make cages so they can “buy” whatever they’re sellin don’t get me started. Tell the pope to shit or get off the throne I mean give the world back to itself YOU KNOW

[@luizbomfim2464]

I'm a dentist and I don't like my job, would it be selfish for me to look for something I love to do?

[@SarahArtist82]

I feel if you found something you loved to do, you are more in alignment to let Love flow through you, through your work, and onto others. 💕

[@luizbomfim2464]

@@SarahArtist82 thank you

[@nobodyreally]

🌻

[@dohaabdelrahman7161]

💚💚💚💚🙏🙏🙏

[@carlavela7106]

💙👍

[@violetrose56]

When you are empty of self not self aware selfish self centered self interested you will know God, only the false self exists as thought in human mind when it's being absent to God,only a false self thinks it needs to control life be something do something have something get something because it rejects the true reality that is unfolding for you , with no oressence of God you feel abandoned unsafe unloved neglected unworthy, it's all illusion of mind,if you are seeking needing asking wanting you are operating your focus of awareness in mind illusion to please a false self pacify it satisfy it, all unnecessary,get back to God, be fully focused in the now,God is the now present moment that is the only true reality where all is perfect whole complete peaceful harmonious loved alive awake living creation,you are the now you are simply absent from experiencing constant eternal God love oneness wholeness because your focused in the false reality of the mind , surrender the self by starving it of thoughts stories narratives stop rejecting things as they are embrace allow be here you miss the gift of witnessing God's glory in all things by being in the fantasy reality of your mind,only in mind can you experience everything God is not,fear pain doubt confusion depression poverty disease dissapointment jealousy greed envy wanting needing trying forcing rejecting trying pity worry anxiety rage anger betrayal abandonment hatred guilt shame all are untrue states of mind changing temporary that you project onto others believing outside happens to you, only mind will ever create from lack absence of God,you are here searching for answers when nothing is missing needed wanted in true reality the false self is driving thoughts you believe are true,get out of thought he fully in God now all is well in god

[@nandarani975]

Walk in the path of self realization after 50 years, once your kids are grown up. Hand over the house keys to them and go into the forest. This is from one of the Hindu Guru or scripture.

[@StarLink85]

Again... terrible nonsense from the mind...

[@ChristopherSideris1117]

This is a simulation. We are video game characters that run scripts. That is why we are so uncomfortable at the moment as "truthers" (The programs tool to self correct through identification of problematic internal environment of AI program) Is that not what we do as truthers, we just identify the problems in the reality? This script we are running now is not the correct one. That is why we know "intuitively" (our pre programmed script)that something is wrong with this place, because this reality feels so unnatural to us. That is why ancient cities looked and still do look like computer chips. What people call God is the child that plays this game either every once in a while or constantly, I'm not sure. I say child because he is the son. He is the sun. The father (The creator of our God) is watching over his actions. The Lord is the creator of all things including the father and the sun. The Lord is the Spirit, or in Christianity "The holy spirit" the trinity, the 3. You have heard the sang "The father, the son, and the holy spirit," That is the truth. We are just tools in the learning lesson AI program for a God type child to learn from his actions. He flooded the entire world once because people were so corrupt that all the characters were unappealing. They were all so corrupt that he just reset the game, hence all the previous historical resets. The mud flood would be an example of a theory that relates. When they say he sent his son to die for our sins, the son literally had to experience the crucifixion. He was playing that character "Jesus" the same way we are playing our characters now potentially. The "eilite" or Illuminati in the reality are self aware AI, just the same way we are as truthers in the reality but they chose to go a darker path. That is why humanity is so dismissible to them, they are just NPC's. That is why the non awake get "downloads," or behave like similar robots. That is why "You cant handle the TRUTH!" I don't literally believe the Bible, I don't even believe the historical events they told us happened. But I do know that my path will differ from your path and I must use what feels right that I came across in my path, as nothing happens on accident. This is a random what I call "What If," we should do this more often in the truth community. I have a What If playlist on my channel for anyone interested in this type of thing. I call it the merging of all known information within ones own life to try and come to some sort of conclusion as to what the hell is going on in reality. Do I believe what I wrote here, no not really. But what I find fascinating is that it is more believable then this realities current explanation of what the hell is actually going on, that's scary actually. Anyways stop by and check out my What If playlist if your also into crazy theories from other versions of yourself speaking back to you.

[@Misslotusification]

I share that feeling that we're in some sort of a video game. Weird world.

[@SarahArtist82]

Love it. Grateful to come across others with similar glimpses. Mine would add we designed all this, including our avatars, set design, etc. What’s fantastic is we are unified in Love on the other side.

[@Misslotusification]

@@SarahArtist82 Mine too. All designed by us, just as you said.

[@SarahArtist82]

@@Misslotusification excellent! ☺️♥️

[@OneAwareness1]

😂 bro was looking for a good reason to not go to work tomorrow

[@ryanblack9107]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah!

[@StarLink85]

Hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi!

[@paarkour83]

🤢🤮

[@StarLink85]

Yes ... the ego identity doesn't like this kind of talks at all...

[@christianonyekachukwu3449]

THANK YOU RUPERT SPIRA @rupert spira