Should Knicks keep OG Anunoby, Isaiah Hartenstein, Julius Randle & Tom Thibodeau next season? | SNY

On SportsNite, Eamon McAnaney and John Jastremski discuss potential Knicks' 'stay or go' candidates, including OG Anunoby, Isaiah Hartenstein, Julius Randle, and head coach Tom Thibodeau.
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[@stevenstiffman6587]

Keep the entire roster. If everyone was healthy, Knicks could have gone to the finals

[@ps1hagrid84]

Truth

[@user-ai-111-kyng-9]

💯

[@shawnjohnson8675]

Facts.

[@gabepizza]

if healthy is a big if. That's why Toronto let OG go. He is fragile and injury prone. He missed a bunch of games during the season and then the last 2 in the playoffs. It's not like Randle who actually had a real injury by falling on his shoulder. OG has these phantom injuries that keep him out like Mitchell.

[@user-ai-111-kyng-9]

OG did not fit in during his time in Toronto. He feels chemistry with Thibs and team. Knicks play with heart and chemistry seems to fit with players respecting each other on court. All the injuries he sustained during his time with Knicks are real. We have to give him benefit of doubt but when he plays Knicks are unstoppable. He knows he can win championship with this current roster and MVP Brunson plus iron man Hart or Villanova 3. He has a shot here but needs to limit his injuries

[@seniorbief4069]

This assessment is truly shortsighted. Robinson not being here makes us susceptible to every center that can play below the free throw line. hartenstein couldn't stop him. Mitch got us to the second round on a bum ankle that Embiid himself fell on.

[@gangsterbenji]

Mitch gets severely injured every year though

[@seniorbief4069]

It doesn’t make sense to trade away someone that causes so much gravity on the glass. Instead of throwing someone away, one who helped us with winning the two playoffs series we’ve won the last two years, find out how to preserve that player better. We have Hartenstein and that tandem works very well. He would have less minutes behind Ihart and immediately that makes us better. Both units would have legit support at the 5 for 48 minutes. Tossing him a year after we signed him on for four is not the way.

[@SouthsideFYC]

Well said. Funny…. We want players to play hard & put their bodies on the line but when they do - they get hurt - it’s time to kick em to the curb? It would be great if the sports media echo chamber had a contextual narrative but that’s not cool though… smh

[@hd-xc2lz]

And we'll never get back equal value for Robinson with his injury history. Better to split his minutes with Hartenstein or whoever we end up with at center, and have him healthy for the playoffs. We will need him again vs Embid.

[@Beastie_Boy33]

@@gangsterbenji very true. i know he bulked up to go up against guys like embiid, but he may be carrying around too much weight now.

[@NJTBus452]

Yes keep Tom, Hartinstien, Randle, and OG

[@Ericgstax]

We stay with what we have.. If it doesn't work out by mid season next year they can make a trade that better fits!! Keep our guys for now and run it next year!

[@ApoloWilliams]

Only ny constantly in news for fake trades it's called knicks for clicks aint sny a brooklyn network deal with nets news

[@mrrilz11]

Whoooooo are the Knicks going to replace Randle at the 4 position? The argument to trade him for this abstract star? Who is this magical star at the 4?

[@adesadiq9615]

It's comical, nonsensical, and delusional to think that we're going to get back a solid PF who is a threat like Randle. Your questions are valid, yet I think this shouldn't be a conversation.

[@official315]

@@adesadiq9615trading for aaron gordon,kcp or a couple picks good fit hes a champion one of the biggest PF in the league plays to win not to stat pad like randle does plays defense passes the ball makes winning plays not a great scorer but still capable

[@adesadiq9615]

@@official315 So he replaces Randle's "stat-padding" of 25, 10, and 5 virtually every night? He creates the offensive threat that we need on the offensive side of the ball where Jalen Brunson doesn't get double-teamed because there's another "threat" on the court?

[@ApoloWilliams]

​@adesadiq9615 it's not a conversation the media knows the knicks and randle discussion brings clicks u don't trade randle u add another piece to him and brunson and keep it moving he always come back better I guarantee you he working right now

[@adesadiq9615]

@@ApoloWilliams That's a whole fact bro

[@Michael_Page]

OG negotiations might get spicy. The Knicks will want to pay him less because he got hurt. However, Thibs played him nearly every single minute for 5 straight games until he broke down. Hopefully the Knicks offer Hartenstein the max they can offer. Hopefully he takes it. Lots of teams will have interest in iHart and OG. Thibs isn't going anywhere. Can't fire a 50 win coach if the star player loves him. Randle is going nowhere. Nobody else in the league wants him.

[@official315]

i guarantee you washigton would do anything to get randle so dont say nobody

[@teddynyc1384]

NYC ROCKS THE WORLD

[@MarkChocolate]

Reference to “Poison Clan Rocks The World!” ?? If so, kudos! 👊🏽

[@teddynyc1384]

@@MarkChocolate Had to look that up. Great Sat afternoon Karate flick😂💪

[@MarkChocolate]

@@teddynyc1384 Ahh, those were the days…🤔😄👊🏽

[@AyoSaint]

Yes. If it’s not broken don’t fix it !

[@uncle_ralphmcd3431]

Get rid of Robinson and watch Embiid and the 76ers bounce the Knicks out of the playoffs. Embiid had I-Hart in foul trouble the whole first series. A line up of Mitch and OG shuts down the opposing team.

[@BennyLin718]

U watch the games the ppl n these comments wildin we don’t need to trade anyone

[@stereolababy]

robinson is too fragile and can't be trusted to be there when they need him

[@user-ai-111-kyng-9]

Why would we want to keep Robinson if he is injured every year and all the time. No one gets more injured than him. It puts the Knicks in difficult situation if he’s needed in crucial playoff time. Keep Randle, Hartenstein and OG. Get rid of Burks, Bogdanovic and Robinson

[@bigcitydreamz4444]

NYK have three 7ft Hart, Mitch and Simms. Thibbs needed to let Simms play when Mitch was injured. Instead majority of the minutes went to Precious development.

[@BennyLin718]

@@bigcitydreamz4444 I Hurd that if we super lucky we might get a 7’4 center outta uconn that 300+ but move like a more aggressive jokic

[@supag4757]

If 76ers offer $40-45 million a year and Knicks offer at best $30-34 million, OG is not dumb. He is going to take the highest offer regardless if his agent is family with the Knicks.

[@scottrothschild178]

I agree, 100%!

[@brucelau2023]

Definitely disagree with the Randle trade. Keep Randle, add one more solid player, keep the core players and the Knicks win a chip. sorry but Mikal Bridges is solid, but he's not what Randle is , he can't give you 20 and 10 rebounds he's very durable and hardly misses any games, but i want randle to stay for the foundation

[@BennyLin718]

Don’t trade nobody at all n if we can sign someone not get rid of

[@Realchulo]

Jayson Tatum to the Knicks

[@ApoloWilliams]

Go away

[@ovadiasetti6768]

Love him hes a unique player..but hurt alot

[@meloboy88]

Tom Thib needs to go!

[@alrozay1050]

Keep 💯

[@Tay234.]

What can u get for Mitch and does it include keeping Randle and somehow adding mikal bridges?

[@sdfv4zx]

You can keep randle he is garbage, dont want mitch either cost too much and not producing anything those 2. Your knicks are done.

[@bbcmonday3463]

@@sdfv4zxcasual if you think randle is bad

[@BennyLin718]

Y yall want bridges so much cuz he was n college with Brunson we don’t need him n we need Mitchell in starting to think none of yall actually watch the game s

[@lnu9068]

@@BennyLin718thank you. Bridges is a role player not a starter or superstar

[@forgivereem9562]

Yes

[@josesantana27]

Definitely disagree with the Randle trade. Keep Randle, add one more solid player, keep the core players and the Knicks win a chip.

[@BennyLin718]

Facts they forget he was putting up 30 a night b4 the injury

[@stereolababy]

randle is a ball hog

[@ps1hagrid84]

@@stereolababyif they teach him to pass we good

[@pdlegend6829]

We dont need Randle slowing us down. It was such a joy to watch them finally start running with Hart and Donte. Dont want to go back to the walk up the floor, give it to Randle, clear out and watch him play 1 on 1 for 15 seconds then launch a brick or dribble it off his foot.

[@josesantana27]

You guys have selective memory. The Knicks were 14-2 in the month of January with Randle and the addition of OG. Please let's stop with the narrative that Randle can't coexist with Jalen Brunson. And besides, what power-forward is available that can add consistent scoring like Randle? Randle provides the Knicks with a second scoring option. Please let's stop with the narrative that Randle can't coexist with Jalen.

[@redruger3748]

This man was talking straight factz

[@JayzBeerz]

Knicks have some big decisions to make for sure. ❤

[@thelegend7568]

Yes! Run it!

[@richardwilliams5842]

Go Knicks!

[@nick.valente_bass]

How is that even a real question to ask??

[@nilesmaxwell758]

Realistically in order for this team to win they have to build a deep roster.. if brunson get hurt its over... that's why keeping randle doesn't make sense it would free up space.. to get more role players not another star the more bodies this team has the better...keep robinson he may be injury prone and his market is down so he would be hard to move the problem is he shouldn't be starting he should also be playing less minutes.. coming off the bench. get a decent back up pg and more 3 and d wings..

[@user-sd4ot1iz9s]

Crazy if the Knick’s don’t bring all three back for next season run it back.

[@VinceVeeMan]

Knicks can win without Randall, can’t win without O.G

[@555crooked]

You still need a 2nd score and makes rebounds easier

[@NoahBiniam-li4br]

Randle is our second scorer

[@MrOzzieoz]

Must sign O.G and IHart. Trade Randle and some picks for Bridges.

[@ivonacindric6417]

@@MrOzzieoz Randle is much better than soft ( smaller, lighter) and much less physical Bridges who is btw only two years younger than Randle..Same goes for Booker

[@ApoloWilliams]

​@@MrOzzieozso if ur dumb logic is true and u get little ass bridges og is your 4? He can't even stay healthy at the 3 and u want him to bang and get rebounds at the 4?

[@moonblast12]

His take on Mitchell Robinson is ridiculous, fans like him only see the things Robinson doesn’t do when he’s out there he controls the boards and shuts down the paint. He and Hartenstien give the the Knicks exactly what Thibs wants in his center.

[@ShadyGrady3]

They need to trade randle and Robinson and bring in a true superstar big man

[@darkerknight7010]

Who?

[@akendon7260]

@@darkerknight7010 Giannis!

[@chickgeorge2341]

Just run it back with everyone. Attempt to trade for Bridges. If not just run it back. Add or draft a wing who can shoot 3s and plays Defense

[@socramserrot]

Knicks should draft Terrence Shannon Jr., Tyler Kolek or Cam Spencer If they are available at 24 selection.

[@raulince2318]

Run it bAck

[@Enerjay88]

There's ZERO reason to trade Randle. The team hasn't hit their ceiling fully healthy. Terrible assessment

[@kineahora8736]

OG: slam dunk STAY 💯 I❤: Would be very nice to have him-but he’s gonna be too expensive most likely Julius: There are a few better options, but not many-Zion or Giannis, and both of them are gonna make way more than the 32M we are paying Julius. Mikal Bridges doesn’t really replace Randle-not either the physical presence or the scoring threat, and besides the Nets have demonstrated they don’t want to relinquish him and especially not to the Knicks.

[@cartierjoe]

You think one dimensional players are better than Julius Randle? Have you ever seen Zion or Giannis consistently hit a jumper?

[@kineahora8736]

@@cartierjoe both of those guys are definitely better than Randall. And by a lot. Why rely upon a jumper when you can just score inside (they are much better at that than Julius). But I’m not dissing on Randle- I’m saying that there aren’t many other guys that I really would rather have than him. Anthony Davis for instance, prefers to play power forward than center… I would obviously rather have Anthony Davis than Julius as well. The people I’m mentioning are all top level players.

[@Enerjay88]

And nets would never trade Bridges to us! Regardless of what we have. And we can still get him without having to trade Julius

[@user-dg1qz1wf7m]

If I was forced to keep 2 out of the 3 between Hart, Divencenzo and OG.... as much it would hurt me to say this but, Divencenzo would be the odd man out. Again if I was forced to pick, I would much rather keep everyone.

[@clydecyoung6158]

YES,YES, YES!

[@brianharris9949]

Yes, yes, yes and yes! 12-2 with Julius and OG in the lineup! I don’t know why people continually try to 💩 on an All Star that averages 24 and 9. It seemed like he accepted that Jalen was Batman, and he was Robin. They just need to keep adding quality tough minded players that play both ends of the floor and can shoot the ball.

[@mrfiness]

Tibbs has a good record yes! He has faltered in the playoffs yes! There has to be some adjustments to get to the final level

[@countryclubpoper]

An athletic wing like OG who can play both defense and get you double digit points is a commodity that we need. Trade Randle and Hartenstein along with draft capital for a second all star and we’re good to go. Maybe draft SG who can come off the bench

[@tkelong3569]

Obviously yes.

[@williamhill3820]

I agree 💯 about trading Mitch, keep hartenstein

[@boombyeyeahh]

Thibs IS Ny city 🧡💙👍

[@Christian900]

Front runners are Jalen and OG Core is Dante , Hart, n Hartenstien Randle is a bully boy, we need that for the opposing big teams in the East

[@cartierjoe]

Anybody trading Julius All NBA Randle for Bridges just to reunite Jay Wright players is crazy Edit: after reading other comments i see I am not alone with keeping Julius!! LGK!

[@chaoticstylez]

The only player that I would even consider on the Knicks is Giannis. No small gaurds or wing players. Only a big that can defend & score.

[@akendon7260]

Preach. And he plays like a Knicks. He's basically tall Josh Hart!

[@official315]

they should get jonathan isaac perfect fit

[@iec7587]

This guy JJ is a more on Limited ceilign if they run it back? when they were healthy (Without Mitch) they were the best team in the league by every important metric

[@VirtuallyCourtside]

Trade Randle for Naz Reid and they’re contenders easily next year with good help. Also step up Stevens roll. He can really be a splash brother with his shot. Trust in him and give him a bigger roll

[@Brhoward31]

Actually good analysis; except SLIGHLY on Thibs. Thibs needs to adjust his coaching style

[@luckjames8409]

Knicks need to play this smart. The whole league wants OG. Sign him and trade him. He will not be healthy in may playing for thibs.

[@ddavis914]

No brainer both

[@YouBeAiight]

Keep Randle and get bridges

[@Genghiskoz]

Bring in Zion at all cost

[@ivonacindric6417]

Everybody is clever these days.... IHart is OK but it is not that good and Mitch has a lot of quality...Whatever Knicks do they should never trade half of the team for a so called superstar

[@khaledelbanhawy4897]

I'm only trading Randle for bridges

[@ivonacindric6417]

Bridges is fragile compared to Randle

[@cartierjoe]

🤣🤣 this isn't NBA 2k.

[@MrOzzieoz]

Agree with everything but you shouldn't be on the fence with Randle. I think its time for him to go. Use the money on resigning Ihart and perhaps signing a big wing. Also, let Sims go.

[@Michael_Page]

Can't just let him go. Have to find another team that is willing to take his contract.

[@cartierjoe]

​@@Michael_Pagefor who is my question, name another PF as good as Julius? And don't say Giannis because he just bulldozers his way to the rim

[@Michael_Page]

@@cartierjoe wait, I missed that. You think Randle is better than Giannis? Why did I even waste my time responding?

[@prez66465]

Tom Thibodeau might have built this team from the ground up, but he lacks good coaching skills and he doesn’t use his time outs or his roster wisely. He gave up Obi Toppin when he should’ve given up Randle, and now Randle is on the trading block. Thibs doesn’t address the core issues the Knicks have had for many many years. Like consistency, balanced scoring, defense, sorely lacking against the pacers and rebounding on both ends. The Knicks don’t play solid basketball because of Thibs. Missed FTs and too many turnovers are issues that should’ve already been corrected. How do you go up 2-0 and lose the series. Ridiculous! I understand you get injuries, that’s part of the game you cannot control, but everything I mentioned earlier you can control. But the Knicks didn’t do that. They didn’t do anything right. When they lost G3 they lost the series. That’s a fact! That’s poor coaching! Of course, no one agrees with that. But that’s the honest truth. Thibs gotta go. The Knicks won’t get any better with Thibs. They will never get out of the 2nd round, because they lack the fundamentals. They don’t have what it takes to get to the next level. When you advance to the 3rd round, you’re a very good team, a team that could win it all. The Knicks aren’t there yet. And if they think adding a scorer to the roster is the answer, they’re sadly mistaken. They still won’t get out of the second round, because they lack the fundamentals I mentioned earlier. The Knicks didn’t want it bad enough, so the Pacers took it. The series should’ve been over in 5 games whether you win G3 or G4. Even if you’re injured, the guys who are playing must play well. Every game the Pacers won, they won big, except for G3, but they still won. A game the Knicks should’ve won. It falls on Thibs, he’s gotta go. The Knicks will never win a championship with Thibs!

[@cartierjoe]

I'm glad you're not in the front office, Knicks dodged a bullet by not hiring you

[@prez66465]

I don’t think so. You’re probably like most people who think the Knicks had a successful season!

[@prez66465]

Also Randle isn’t a star like everyone seems to think!

[@official315]

randle and bogdanovic for bridges

[@ivonacindric6417]

Bridges is not worth it...Randle much better...Almost the same age and lot stronger

[@official315]

@@ivonacindric6417 yeah but randle needs the ball too much to be successful bridges can play any role needed while randle is stuck in his always mad about something and arguing with refs instead of playing defense

[@cartierjoe]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 when did Bridges become a superstar that we're trading two 20 point scorers for him, plus Randles 9 boards

[@official315]

@@cartierjoe bogdanovic is 35 and was averaging 20 on the worst team in the league came to the knicks couldnt make a wide open shot to save his life, randle coming off shoulder surgery mikal in his prime not to mention the villanova connection and randle has to go knicks will never win with randle same way no one will win with james harden on the team playing major minutes

[@kellyldavis100]

This Knicks team is unselfish……Randle doesn’t share the ball enough……

[@user-di1nt2mr4f]

5 assists a game for a pf is good work. Randle is a point forward

[@ivonacindric6417]

This year before injury he changed approach..Not an iso player that much anymore

[@iec7587]

I guess you dont watch games

[@khaledelbanhawy4897]

Trade Robinson his made of paper never plays always injured

[@yangzhang2824]

fire thib hire vogel

[@timothybryant119]

Who is this guy? U keep the same team n add players around them,that's it that's all

[@CrimsonOmega-]

I like Hartenstein, but Myles Turner absolutely cooked him on offense, the difference in offense was glaring

[@shiznitshnitzel4]

He would have cooked any center in the league. He will never shoot that 3 point percentage for that stretch ever again for the rest of his career.

[@CrimsonOmega-]

@@shiznitshnitzel4 Not if you at least go out to contest the shot he also had the middy going, Most of the time he left Turner wide open. Turner had him on his heels which led to wide open dunks for him

[@shiznitshnitzel4]

@@CrimsonOmega- I hope they can somehow keep both guys. We'll see

[@CrimsonOmega-]

@@shiznitshnitzel4 yeah the only thing is, do you want to commit 30+ million on a center position where you don’t get much offense from, probably better off spending that somewhere else

[@shiznitshnitzel4]

@CrimsonOmega- I agree because I think thibs can get the most out of a cheaper replacement

[@michaelbedard7859]

Love Robby. Good bye dude.

[@khaledelbanhawy4897]

Keep everyone but Thibodaux

[@emiliothepoet]

Hartenstein should be kept. Randle should be traded but you lose in that deal.

[@jensenat]

Bridges for Randle is absurd. The only person I could consider trading Randle for is Giannis. No Booker, no Durant, no Zion, no Mitchell. Randle is the perfect PF for this team. He can shot the 3, he can pass and he can create his own shots. Pair that with Brunson, DiVincenzo and Anunoby in a corner and good luck stopping them. They should develop iHart midrange. Dude can shot, and it can help open the paint for Randle to play bully ball.

[@akendon7260]

Preach. Giannis plays hard and tough like we play, like Josh Hart plays. Fits better than any star out there!

[@tart8228]

why am i the only one who doesnt want OG back

[@BennyLin718]

Cuz og made the biggest impact wat were u watching this season

[@barkleysmall2363]

Bcuz u don’t know ball

[@tart8228]

I mean yall kinda trolling I was being sincere. and obviously he's a good player but perhaps I was talking about him being injured more games than he played. and idk him as a person but dude seems totally disinterested and not enthusiastic

[@BennyLin718]

@@tart8228 I see but it really was the same injury he shouldn’t have came back but it was the playoffs n we was short hand but I really like our chances next year

[@tart8228]

@@BennyLin718 one was elbow one was hamstring :( but im with ya as long as we pay iHart too

[@andrewkolodziej3471]

Package Julius and Mitch for A.D

[@jtpgaming5424]

ad most def does not fit this team

[@Michael_Page]

Lakers would never do it. Would have to add 5 first round draft picks for them to even think about it. Randle does not have trade value.

[@MrWarmachine3]

No to Hartenstein, he can't guard anybody, keep Randle, bye to Anonoby, always hurt.

[@LevelUpLagoon]

I agree about iHart, but definitely not OG! He's the foundation to the Knicks defense!

[@akendon7260]

Some of you fans are sick in the head!

[@theovrionides7666]

No way they should keep him his damaged goods ! Spend the $30 million a year elsewhere please !

[@lou1jets497]

Hell no didn't understand why they got him anyway he's always hurt most of his career . Don't y'all have eyes !!!! . N O FOR OG .

[@jj47k.]

After giving up assets to get him you have no choice but to resign him

[@ricardomontilban4827]

Motherfing staaaaaaaaaaaay

[@nevillejackson5866]

They do what ever f they want

[@nevillejackson5866]

The coach needs to go