Should Kobe Bryant be ranked higher than No. 10 on the NBA anniversary team? | First Take

The First Take crew discusses if Kobe Bryant should have been ranked higher than No.10 on the NBA's 75th anniversary team.
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[@kaijmartin78]

Kobe was a 12 time all Defense 9 time 1st team all Defense And top 5 all time scorer And also holds 5 rings, let that sink in

[@user-hn4dq1xt7r]

How was he so great?

[@janonjones5276]

6-10 seems pretty fair

[@hamzabhatti_24]

Agreed. Kobe needs to be moved up

[@dxshywxshy8916]

@@hamzabhatti_24 7 at best

[@redrebel6018]

All nba15x v 10 All defense 12x v 0 Mvp 1x v 3x Rings 5x v 5 Fmvp 2x v 3 Scoring🏆2x v 0 Ast🏆0x v 4 Stl🏆0x v 2 Longevity 20yrs vs 13yrs Stat total > pts, reb, blks, stl vs ast The totality of what kobe accomplished is > than magic. Also did it without another top 10 player.

[@nbkagaming9656]

Kobe’s 08-10 playoff run is one of greatest ever. He had more playoff series wins against 50 win teams in those three years than everyone on that list combined. Let that sink in

[@NICANTONIO]

Beat more 50+ win teams than anyone all time & in those 3 straight he beat more than Lebum did in his eight straight in the East. All that with just Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Derek Fisher, a banged up Andrew Bynum & Ron Artest for the last one lol

[@thump2727]

@@NICANTONIO Lebum?😂😂😂😂

[@B.Piercesports]

@@NICANTONIO so what

[@onepiece6529]

*Kobe 2008 Postseason* (633pts) 30.1ppg, 5.7rb, 5.6ast, 1.7stl, 0.4blk, 3.3to *fg 47%, 3p 30%, ft 80%* 0-3Ft Shooting 62% (Paint) *3-10Ft Shooting 63%* *10-16Ft Shooting 50%* *16-30Ft Shooting 42%* Shooting Distance - *13.9 feet* ________________________________________________________ *2009 Kobe Postseason* (695pts) 30.2ppg, 5.3rb, 5.5ast, 1.7stl. 0.9blk, 2.6to *fg 45%, 3p 34%, ft 88%* 0-3Ft Shooting 59% (Paint) *3-10Ft Shooting 40%* *10-16Ft Shooting 45%* *16-30Ft Shooting 46%* Shooting Distance - *14.6 feet* _______________________________________________________ *2010 Kobe Postseason* (671pts) 29.2ppg, 6.0rb, 5.5ast, 1.3stl, 0.7blk, 3.4to *fg 45%, 3p 37%, ft 84%* 0-3Ft Shooting 54% (Paint) *3-10Ft Shooting 52%* *10-16Ft Shooting 47%* *16-30Ft Shooting 43%* Shooting Distance - *15.1 Feet* _______________________________________________________ *2008 West Finals Lakers vs Spurs W 4-1* Kobe 29.2ppg, 5.6rb, 3.8ast, 1.6stl, 0.0blk *fg 53%, 3p 33%, 90%* (11 free throw attempts) - *2008 West Finals Game 1 W 89-85* Kobe 27pts, 5rbs, 9asts, 1stl, 0blk, *1to* *11-21fgm, 1/3 3pm, 4/4fta* (14pts in 4th - 6-9fgm, 0/1 3pm, 2/2fta ) - *2008 West Finals Game 2 W 101-71* Kobe 22pts, 5rbs, 5asts, 1stl, 0blk, 3to *10-17fgm, 1/5 3pm, 1/1fta* - *2008 West Finals Game 3 L 84-103* Kobe 30pts , 5rbs, 1ast, 3stls, 0blk, 4to *13-23fgm, 4/9 3pm, 0/1fta* - *2008 West Finals Game 4 W 93-91* Kobe 28pts, 10rbs, 1ast, 1stl, 0blk, 2to *14-29fgm, 0/1 3pm, 0/0fta* (should be 40pts) *2008 West Finals Game 5 W 100-92* Kobe *39pts* , 3rbs, 3asts, 2stls, 0blk, 2to *16-30fgm, 2/6 3pm, 5/5fta* (17pts in 4th: 6-11fgm, 1/2 3pm, 4/4fta) ________________________________________________________ *2009 West Finals Lakers vs Nuggets W 4-2* Kobe 34.0ppg, 5.8rb, 5.8ast, 0.8stl, 0.5blk *fg 48%, 3p 34%, ft 93%* - *2009 West Finals Game 1 W 105-103* Kobe *40pts* , 6rbs, 4asts, 0stl, 1blk, *1to* *13-28fgm, 2/3 3pm, 12/13fta* (18pts in 4th: 4-5fgm, 1/1 3pm, 9/9fta) - *2009 West Finals Game 2 L 103-106* Kobe 32pts, 5rbs, 3asts, 1stl, 1blk, 2to *10-20fgm, 2/4 3pm, 10/10fta* - *2009 West Finals Game 3 W 103-97* Kobe *41pts* , 6rbs, 5asts, 2stls, 0blk, *1to* *12-24fgm, 2/5 3pm, 15/17fta* (13pts in 4th: 3-5fgm, 1/2 3pm, 6/8fta) - *2009 West Finals Game 4 L 101-120* Kobe *34pts* , 7rbs, 5asts, 1stl, 0blk, *1to* *10-26fgm, 2/10 3pm, 12/13fta* - *2009 West Finals Game 5 W 103-94* Kobe 22pts, 5rbs, 8asts, 1stl, 0blk, 7to *6-13fgm, 1/6 3pm, 9/10fta* - *2009 West Finals Game 6 W 119-102* Kobe *35pts* , 6rbs, *10asts* , 0stl, 1blk, *1to* *12-20fgm, 2/4 3pm, 9/9fta* (9pts in 4th: 3-3fgm, 1/1 3pm, 2/2fta) ________________________________________________________ *2010 West Finals Lakers vs Suns W 4-2* Kobe 33.7ppg, 7.2rb, 8.3ast, 0.8stl, 1.2blk *fg 52%, 3p 43%, ft 88%* - *2010 West Finals Game 1 W 128-107* Kobe *40pts* , 5rbs, 5asts, 1stl, 0blk, 2to *13-23fgm, 3/6 3pm, 11/12fta* (21pts in 3rd qtr: 7-10fgm, 1/2 3pm, 6/6fta)(35 min) - *2010 West Finals Game 2 W 124- 112* Kobe 21pts, 5rbs, *13asts* , 0stl, 1blk, 2to *8-19fgm, 1/3 3pm, 4/4fta* - *2010 West Finals Game 3 L 109-118* Kobe *36pts* , 9rbs, *11asts* , 1stl, 1blk, 5to *13-24fgm, 2/8 3pm, 8/8fta* - *2010 West Finals Game 4 L 106-115* Kobe *38pts* , 7rbs, *10asts* , 1stl, 1blk, *1to* *15-22fgm, 6/9 3pm, 2/4fta* (Should be 40-45pts) - *2010 West Finals Game 5 W 103-101* Kobe *30pts, 11rbs* , 9asts, 0stl, 4blk , 2to *12-27fgm, 4/10 3pm, 2/3fta* - *2010 West Finals Game 6 W 111-103* Kobe *37pts* , 6rbs, 2asts, 2stls, 0blk, 2to *12-25fgm, 3/8 3pm, 10/11fta* (11pts in 4th : 3-7fgm, 0/2 3pm, 5/6fta) (Game winning shot) ________________________________________________________ Kobe in his prime eliminated Spurs, Nuggets, & Phx that had elite players/ hofers.

[@eastwood1026]

@@B.Piercesports he jus explained it

[@teedee1167]

Kobe won back to back rings without a top 75 player on the roster. THAT IS IMPRESSIVE!

[@Howdidhenotseeme]

He won all 5 rings with a top 15 coach

[@savagewrld5454]

Lebron came back from a 3-1 and won a ring against a 73-9 record team without a top 75 player on the roster. NOW THAT IS MORE IMPRESSIVE

[@himandI0103]

Agreed!

[@himandI0103]

@@Howdidhenotseeme last time I checked coachs don't play the game!

[@Nick_a_ra_gua]

@@Howdidhenotseeme dumb @ss statement 🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelraines2204]

Cmon Tim Duncan is who you’re questioning? Duncan never missed the playoffs. Only season he didn’t win 50+ games was the lockout season in 1999 and won the championship. 2 blocks away from a quadruple double in a close out game in the Finals. Shaq should be in the top ten as well but not replacing Duncan.

[@GODzClanMKX]

You can’t put Duncan in the top 10 without putting Shaq on the list is what she was saying. Duncan is a top 10 player but Shaq dominated the 2000s

[@chuckchuk5157]

@@GODzClanMKX and duncan played 3 different era and be effective that shows how good his skill set is he's not dominating but he's always up there all his career. And yes you can put duncan in there without shaq.

[@imgorgeous03]

Shaq deff deserves to be in Top 10. That man has the potential to be #1 if he just worked as hard as Kobe did. No joke, we will never see another Shaq again. Imagine Orlando Shaq with a little bit more muscle always in top body shape.

[@JR-cq9kb]

Shaq is better than Tim Duncan

[@GODzClanMKX]

@@chuckchuk5157 so you saying Shaq isn’t top 10???

[@alexandrepapadopulos]

I’m ok with Tim Duncan being underrated because he wasn’t flashy but he 100% should be in the top 10 all time with ease. Constant winning season every year, title contender, MVP’s, 5 rings, turned that small market franchise upside down into one of the greatest winning franchises, never switched teams, and not to mention was an elite defender and even a very formidable rim protector late in his career who could still put up points efficiently when given the attempts.

[@thelckr3829]

Yep

[@joestevens3071]

kobe kicked his head in in the playoffs.

[@andreward8268]

@@joestevens3071 but Duncan beat LeBron

[@nutts1223]

And Duncan won chips in 3 different decades :).

[@alexandrepapadopulos]

@@andreward8268 Cleveland and Miami Bron 😅

[@cjdayne3033]

Dont care where other people rank him but Kobe is my favorite player and he always will be. Black mamba all day

[@L92185]

factz me too

[@raulnunez970]

Me too

[@toddsands6000]

I recently realized as an Orlando Magic fan, the late Kobe Bryant was my most favorite player of all-time. Whenever I spent my hard-earned money on limited game ticket packages each year, I always demanded that a Lakers game had to be included. Each Magic vs Lakers game was worth every cent I spent for that ticket. The late Kobe Bryant was so amazing to watch live.

[@tkeung]

Personally I find these ranking completely meaningless, as all these legends are remarkable in their own ways. I know for lots of people, Kobe is their most favorite player

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@schuldin]

@@FreedomFighter2112 duncan is elite

[@lamontking87]

Always was my favorite player of all times

[@SpacelyHendrix]

Preachhh the only comment that matters

[@edwardwalden05]

I feel the same way bro. All this talk is nonsense

[@crux7366]

Kobe is the goat.. toughest career path ever for a superstar. So much stacked against him. I could go on and on and on… he should be top 2 AT LEAST! My vote is that he’s the goat 💯

[@carlosthrasher1301]

Umm he is not the goat but he should be in the top 4

[@crux7366]

@@carlosthrasher1301 naw bro he’s the goat. I could debate back and forth about it. No one gives him his respect

[@Ravishous]

She really said she’s surprised that Tim Duncan is in the top 10 smh. He’s (to me) the greatest PF of all time

[@tevincollins2869]

Yea you could tell she just got the job

[@justhere2travel]

HE IS THEGOAT PF

[@FreedomFighter2112]

You are correct.... Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@zoebarnes3070]

Run an had 3 hof players around him his whole career. Gtfoh

[@mcfcDJ51]

yeah that so dumb asf

[@rahulkrish1581]

If u think Duncan is anything less than top 8, you don’t know basketball. Dude was a rebound away from being 6-0 in the finals. Consistent production for two decades and the epitome of winning basketball.

[@jaytok7]

💯 the most underrated basketball player of all time

[@adriancancino3745]

But people won’t see that, only real ones know

[@fadercreek]

7-0 if he didnt get hurt in 2000 before the playoffs

[@clipsedrag13]

tim duncan was so good he made pop look like a coaching god

[@mactheman3810]

He wasn't better than a shaq

[@Okayhtj]

It’s crazy how the conversation use to be Kobe vs Jordan then it turned into Jordan and lebron but now Kobe is #10 now? These people are jokes

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Neither is Durant whose Achievement totals are at 11 BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30. This is why Kobe should be in the Top 3 or 4 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@cmc2110]

@@FreedomFighter2112 if you say Kobe is Top 4 what about Tim? Based on your logic

[@jankycuz11um88]

@@cmc2110 Tim Duncan has a losing playoff record against Kobe

[@ducamorisable]

@@FreedomFighter2112 Do you have these already written out? I would be curious to see the totals of the other guys that are in the top 10, like Kareem, Wilt, Bill, Hakeem as well as someone like Oscar. Also wouldn't other stuff like scoring titles, assists titles, ROY, MIP, All-Star selections, AS MVP etc. count for at least half a point or something?

[@gzk13kc28]

They are the whole circus itself

[@h_grizztailgate8996]

The NBA didn't appreciate Kobe Bryant's genius 💯🥇🏅🏆

[@alexxallert412]

The NBA did the media didnt...

[@ItsRoyce023]

Neither did most people until he died

[@Boosted904]

maybe because he isnt that good lol

[@gameyee8251]

Kobe's better than oscar, while lebron is not top 2, top 7 suitable for superteam creator

[@pallani8471]

@@gameyee8251 you’re trippin

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

Imagine thinking Tim Duncan is the one that doesn't belong lol. 2 MVPs, 5 championships, 3 Finals MVPs, the most All-Defensive team selections of all-time. M&M tripping. And Stephen A is smoking grade A crack 🧂 if he thinks KD has already surpassed Larry Bird. Bird has 3 MVPs to KD's 1, 3 chips to KD's 2, 3 All-Defensive team selections while KD has 0. Stop the Larry Bird slander.

[@melorileytv3408]

Kd 4x scoring champ the youngest ever kd only player in history with a 30ppg average in the finals while shooting 50/40/90 he also is the only guy ever with a 25ppg on 61% ts

[@mrlalalaelmo7454]

Overrated, his accomplishments are largely because of Pop. His numbers and eye test don’t hold up in comparison to Kobe or Shaq (or even AI)

[@playoffp7452]

@@melorileytv3408 he also joined a 73-9 team n was a sidekick to steph Curry

[@alxfonso4924]

mvps are so narrow though u could make the case the KD was mvp from 2012-2014. he had less Talent then Lebrons heat but won the same amount of games in a tougher conference

[@danielgonzalez4114]

@@mrlalalaelmo7454 couldn’t you say the same about Kobe with Phil Jackson also Duncan had to deal with both shaq and Kobe and battled them hard with an old David Robinson and very young tony Parker.

[@franklinyi6934]

Kobe is in a league of his own. He’s a basketball legend and cultural icon. He’s inspired so many with who he is. Only 3 people on that list will get talked about for generations and he’s one of them.

[@JoeSmithGOAT]

'A league of his own' Act like there isn't a superior version of Kobe named MJ 💀

[@Cincychamps]

@@JoeSmithGOAT MJ s not better

[@reemieus8582]

@@Cincychamps 💀L

[@Riven-19]

@@Cincychamps just cause someone died does not suddenly make them the goat

[@mytrashguypa]

Wilt will be talked about 4ever as well

[@tasimthedream3303]

For everyone saying Tim Duncan isn’t a top 10 player, please refer to his lengthy achievements and accolades he’s accrued over his playing career: 5x NBA CHAMP, 3x FINALS MVP, 2x MVP, 15x ALLSTAR, 10x ALL NBA FIRST, 3x ALL NBA SECOND, 2x ALL NBA THIRD, 8x ALL DEFENSIVE FIRST, 7x ALL NBA DEFENSIVE SECOND, ROOKIE OF THE YEAR

[@kingsfan4evr24]

And by advanced metrics the greatest defensive player ever. Watch Clayton’s GOAT series where he does an episode on why Duncan is the GOAT.

[@markjohnson5646]

He’s not top 15

[@marklenton5114]

Kobe was more Active and Hardworking

[@ag_24]

People forget how good Duncan was just cus he’s playstyle was ‘boring’ Kobe’s my favorite player but I still got Duncan over him

[@Ma1q444]

@@kingsfan4evr24 Tim Duncan has great advance stats because Spurs were a great defense team always casuals

[@imkylewest]

I always felt like the top 10 should be the top 2 of each position. PG- Magic and Steph SG- Mj and Kobe SF- LBJ and Bird PF- Duncan and Russel C- Kareem and Shaq/Hakeem This is the top 10 players all time. How this is ranked is up to whoever votes from here on out but to create a list opposite of how they do All NBA teams (which is the top 3 players at each position) is crazy to me.

[@adambruins]

I love this

[@ExilixE]

just swap Steph for Wilt and that'll be the Top 10

[@qweqweiopiop123]

Dude, I hope you reply to this but you just made so much sense... like so much I was confused 😂 good comment bro, ima use this in my argument anytime this comes up

[@imkylewest]

@@qweqweiopiop123 What’s up my guy 😎

[@N8thnKne]

How about Jerry West? Before you laugh, consider this: West was the best scoring guard of his era in addition to being one a remarkable perimeter defender. He averaged 27-6-7 FOR HIS CAREER.

[@ChrisWoodburn83]

Kobe was my guy and he'll always be number 1 in my book

[@sac1211]

Sad you people support this guy knowing what he did in that hotel room

[@lile4life713]

@@sac1211 Lmfaaaaaaoooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kimarleybennett9089]

@sac12 you never cheat a day in your life

[@fleetadmiral4438]

@@sac1211 isn’t curry wife looking for another man 🤣not top 30 in my eyes

[@lorenzomartinjr]

@@sac1211 WAS THAT YOUR MOM WHO HE SMASHED😂🤣🤣

[@mattdog6560]

Oscar Robinson being over Kobe is just ridiculous and disrespectful.

[@ryukenhondaraiden252]

why because he died.

[@ZackFlairr]

Kobe achieve more

[@swolegod7724]

@@ryukenhondaraiden252 No because he's better. Oscar is 60's Westbrick, just another empty stats player who couldn't win.

[@mscooldeadly]

@@ryukenhondaraiden252 look at level of competition that Oscar & Wilt played in. It's by far the weakest.

[@fleetadmiral4438]

@@ryukenhondaraiden252 y’all have no argument 🤣Kobe was top ten before he died y’all just bron fans hating because kobe the last great laker

[@BagavanSmokey]

Of course people are entitled to their opinions. All I know is that in my heart, Kobe Bean Bryant will always be the greatest of all time for me.

[@Mr3824KB]

Yep...enough said

[@LakerFan]

I don't know when this narrative changed. He was in top 3 convos with Bron and MJ CONSTANTLY through my entire time in high school (im 23) and RANDOMLY in the last 6 years he's just slid down the list for whatever reason???

[@WavyBwoyJay]

They just hate on kobe. They skipped the kobe mj debate, and now all these gen Z kids think lebron is the goat... the world is garbage

[@christianallen1620]

Ppl finally smarten up u can’t be top 3 owning the most missed shots in nba history

[@jeffdaman6969]

Lol kobe was never top 3 when talking about rankings. Only Kobe fans put him there.

[@Kingdoscuatro]

@@christianallen1620 lebrons closing in on 4th missed shots 😂 and soon 3rd most missed shots 😂😂😂

[@Kingdoscuatro]

@@jeffdaman6969 lebron barely entered the goat debate in 2016 😂😂😂

[@zacheycharles4191]

Kobe is number one for me cause he is the most skilled player I've ever seen.

[@TheSwagIsBack]

Kyrie coming for that

[@travelingtheworld8224]

LMAO no where near MJ AND Bron. Keep sucking tho

[@datsapaddlin6449]

Most skilled he has a great case but the problem was he wasn’t as efficient as the other great perimeter scorers and that’s why he usually gets knocked lower.

[@daytrue6995]

@@datsapaddlin6449 idgaf about efficiency dude who cares😂

[@datsapaddlin]

@@daytrue6995 I mean that matters if a player is inefficient it can hurt the team at times. He’s still great he just wasn’t efficient like MJ or Lebron. Why do you think most list are like this? I will say he’s top 5 in my book. Top 10 in general ain’t really a slight but I’d have him higher.

[@JuanMedina-ml1qx]

Bill Russell had 11 chips and Wilt had 2 Bill Russell played with 14 Hall of Famers Wilt played with 4 Hall of Famers….people forget to mention that…..that’s why he had 11 chips Because head to head Wilt averaged 15 more points and 5 rebounds more than Russell And Wilt shot 51% from the field while Russell shot 40%……Championships are important but it doesn’t tell the whole story

[@datsapaddlin]

Yeah he played with a bunch of great players. Its like half the best players in the league would go there.

[@JuanMedina-ml1qx]

@@datsapaddlin free agency didn’t exist in those days either….a player would stay with a team until the team didn’t want you anymore.And because players had to stay with 1 team when free angency started in the NBA in 1976 players still had the mentality to stay with 1 team so they never used the freedom of free agency until basically the late 90s….And then Lebron came along and rewrote the free agency rules

[@datsapaddlin]

@@JuanMedina-ml1qx well that and the Celtics could get no low draft picks in a league of with not many teams 😂. Somehow they would get the best players in the draft.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Facts about Bill Russell.

[@JuanMedina-ml1qx]

@NopeNopeNope that’s a great question,and I would say that it has to do with a combination a both.Because if you look at those players stats it did contribute to winning at different times of Russels career,example when hall of famer Bob Cousy retired in 63 he averaged 18 and 7 asst for his career it was great in those day and average now….he was than replaced with Sam Jones who averaged 17 considered great back then average now a days And that’s what the Celtics did when a player retired or got old they replaced them with another great player.

[@bradleydedier6844]

can't agree on him putting KD over Bird, come on... Also, Duncan is FOR SURE top 10, how could you leave the best PF ever out...

[@Sg6CrossOver]

KD over bird is some BS, KD isn't probably top 3 scorers ever but he isn't the leader that Bird was.

[@Q29021]

@@Sg6CrossOver who yo top 3 scorers ? I’m jus curious

[@heemladen5872]

Kd never did ANYTHING by himself… he top 20 and that’s all

[@heemladen5872]

@Caleb Lipscomb true, but he gets the edge because he’s arguably the greatest white basketball player ever….

[@lionelsheja6381]

KD isn't Greater than Bird. You might argue is BETTER, but not GREATER

[@kuriaki71]

Man, being in the top ten of anything says a whole lot. I personally have Kobe in my top 5

[@Tkw-ez4ke]

i feel like its just kinda disrespectful that they don't have kobe top 5.

[@Official_JG]

@@Tkw-ez4ke he don’t deserve that much lol

[@avocaza1393]

@@Official_JG None of the players except MJ deserve it. How can any of them deserve it if Kobe can't? If 5 chips with numerous accolades can't deserve it, how can other players deserve it? You feel me, you clown?

[@acjnse8258]

@@Tkw-ez4ke how dude

[@MohamedSaeed-mr5yb]

@@avocaza1393 cuz bron and kareem have more accolades then kobe lol kobe isn’t top 3 top 5 maybe

[@blackhokagex2129]

Larry Bird is a 3-time champion and 3-time league MVP. Put some respect on that man's name!!

[@efrain926]

#7 is enough respect for him

[@Matt.Savage]

@@efrain926 Nah, he Top 5

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@efrain926]

@Ta-Kuan Fuan I still think 7 fits him just right. I will never argue KD is ahead of Bird in anything. KD has a long way to go to be considered in the top 10, I don't he's getting in that club.

[@youngcity4241]

Oscar over Kobe is insane they really be overrating triple doubles

[@lilharold]

The numbers don’t lie Oscar better

[@mobccr]

Oscar wasn’t stat padding like Westbrook lol he was just playing to win

[@luminousrxk7288]

fr I hope after this season people realize how overrated triple doubles are and how little they contribute to winning compared to what people actually think,

[@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan]

@@lilharold Oscar is basically if you threw Russ into that weak era tho. He’s not better than Kobe

[@lilharold]

@@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan lol no it’s a reason Russ not in da top 75 and he is and kobe top 10 right where belong it’s not like it’s scrubs over him

[@connor3885]

Espn is a joke, wanna debate he’s top 5 or not that’s fine. But to say Kobe and shaq are 10 and 11 while Oscar is 9 is dumb.

[@darnellwilliams8783]

Kobe got carried by superstar his whole career and Kareen should be number 2 all time kobe was very overrated

[@connor3885]

@@darnellwilliams8783 lol carried his whole career yet went to 3 finals without shaq 🤡

[@socalsp3]

@@darnellwilliams8783 who carried him to his 4th and 5th rings?

[@darnellwilliams8783]

@@connor3885 he had superstar pau gasol .kobe was a average superstar

[@tadeokrzos2550]

@@socalsp3 this man called gasol a superstar, I'm sleep. So by your logic Chris Bosh was a superstar on the heat since him and gasol we're literally averaging similar stats when one was on the heat and the other on the Lakers lol

[@rickydamiron4905]

Tired of the disrespect against Kobe. Iverson said it best: "What, y'all forgot?!".

[@JovaniMiller0401]

Because u gotta understand the league favoritism lebron more than they did Kobe lebron should be 10 and Kobe 2 because Kobe was the closes thing to Jordan but it’s pretty obvious the league ESPN and the people working for sports shows ain’t gonna disrespect lebron

[@rickydamiron4905]

@@JovaniMiller0401 Na, man. I agree. Just throwing it out there. Where I have him, too.

[@easyp789]

@@rickydamiron4905 No you sound slow

[@cluezybluez]

Anyone know why Oscar Robertson is constantly overrated by the media and fans? He averaged a triple double and has one ring and one mvp. Westbrook has the same accolades minus the ring, except averaged a triple double 4 years out of 5. And people have the audacity to put him above Kobe Bryant? Most of these people never even seen the man play

[@joshjohnson7586]

When Oscar Robertson did it there was no such thing as a triple double. It wasn’t until years later when his career was tallied that they realized how dominant Oscar was without chasing stats.

[@trugee5848]

He played in a league that only had 8 teams..majority were unathletic white dudes...he was great tho

[@vali9558]

Im not defending the list, i dont think he should be top 10, but over his first 5 career years he averaged 30 10 and 10 rounding down. Something to think about, take what you want out of that.

[@vali9558]

@@trugee5848 watch jonny arnett he will show that it is a full false statement

[@sef7952]

@@joshjohnson7586 That doesn’t make him a top 10 player & it definitely doesn’t put him over Kobe

[@vincemeyers2064]

The fact Shaq isn’t on this list is absolutely baffling….I personally got him at FIVE all time

[@tyrellmiles1467]

Who do you take out of that top 10 to add Shaq? You can’t do a tie here

[@vincemeyers2064]

….think about this for a second he’s better than everybody outside of the top 4 and it really isn’t debatable. His prime didn’t last as long as some people on this list but when he was in his prime he reached a higher peak than anybody above the top 4 on that list.

[@daytrue6995]

@@vincemeyers2064 shaq said he is not better then Kobe … and Duncan isn’t either

[@vincemeyers2064]

@@daytrue6995 bruh he can say that all he wants his had a better prime 😂. Those guys might’ve had overall better career in totality but if we’re talking peak you can’t tell me Shaq isnt top 5 when it comes to who reached the highest peak of play 🤷‍♂️

[@furstfr]

Shaq over Oscar

[@GerardoTostado]

One of the greatest offensive players of all time no debate. All that and he was a 12 time all defensive team. All that and he had 5 rings. Come on it speaks for itself

[@NoName-cn3cp]

Lol he couldn't even make the playoffs unless he had another franchise level big man in his team. Most overrated player ever honestly.

[@joshuahoward4221]

@@NoName-cn3cp Michael needed Scottie. Lebron needed Kyrie and Anthony Davis. So what's your point?

[@NoName-cn3cp]

@@joshuahoward4221 Michael needed Scotty to make the playoffs? LeBron needs other franchise players to make the playoffs?

[@eeeee4686]

Those all defensive teams were underserved.

[@joshuahoward4221]

@@NoName-cn3cp but calling kobe the most overrated player ever. Are you denying that man's offensive and defensive game. 18 time all-star doesn't happen on accident.

[@jasonafrifa1418]

For her to say Shaq over Duncan is questionable. 2003 NBA western conference semi finals we had Shaq vs Duncan game 6 in LA. Tim Duncan gave the Lakers 36 pts and 13 reb. Shaq was gaurding him most of the time. Couldn’t stop Tim at all.

[@daviesugo7641]

I’m sure they played more than one game among themselves

[@harinderrana9735]

In 2001 Shaq destroyed Tim Duncan when the Lakers swept the Spurs and the series was not even close.

[@darkaskss]

@@harinderrana9735 99 spurs swept lakers shaq and kobe. So your point is invalid and try again

[@hardwoodthought1213]

@@harinderrana9735 In 2001 Anyonio Daniels was Duncan’s 2nd best scorer People have a short memory or can’t be bothered to look into it, but from 99-04 SA failed to give Duncan offensive help, hence why a team that had both Kobe and Shaq beat him 3 times in that time span, and somehow with either an aged Robinson or a teenage Parker Duncan still beat them twice

[@carlosantoniocotman1351]

@@darkaskss Not really because Shaq outplayed Duncan in 01 and 02.

[@StevenGarcia2424]

Kobe will comeback to earth after seeing this list. My Goodness!!!. He is easily top 5. Even Magic said Kobe was the greatest Laker of all time.

[@kasperrieberg3495]

But Kobe also said Magic was the greatest Laker 🤷‍♂️

[@himandI0103]

Agreed

[@klaythompson663]

Nah. Real top 10 is MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Hakeem, Russell, Kobe, Hakeem.

[@spelllegacylikedeath9957]

Dude they didn’t have this energy when Kobe was playing.

[@user-kw5gs5oo2r]

@@spelllegacylikedeath9957 Kobe is overrated he ain't top 10

[@toptiertone]

Everyone says Kobe is the closest thing to MJ, yet they rank him #10. I don’t get it. He’s top 3 in my eyes

[@millardfilmore1403]

yup i agree. people LOVE acting like they love kobe and worship him and then turn around and put him at #10. It's a joke. WE saw him play mf don't act like we didn't. He didn't play in the 50s or 60s ...

[@mmd7773]

It’s his play style and mindset that are identical to mj. But he never achieved the level of performance MJ did. That’s statistically a fact. But he should be absolutely in the top 10 around 7-10 spot.

[@harrypponder7396]

It’s only 1 person Im saying better than “Ko8e”

[@Adamskie]

@@millardfilmore1403 The problem always comes down to the numbers. Visually he was the closest to MJ. When you dig and find that he has the most misses in NBA history without taking the most shots, the inefficiency ends up biting his legacy. I love Kobe, but I think that's where he always loses ground.

[@B.Piercesports]

He got 1 mvp and 2 fmvps that's not Jordan like

[@TiggerLyOne]

Shaq cant be denied by anyone but himself! The longevity of Duncan has to count as something in the overall package.

[@austinmalby1110]

Crazy Shaq has somehow become underrated

[@kobeb365]

Shaq was a dominant force from 92-03. Duncan was dominant from 97-06…

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@g1lmk]

Shaq isn't even the best center omitted from the list. The Dream was better than him. It's not me, it's Shaq himself that told that.

[@kobeb365]

@@g1lmk I believe shaq and Hakeem are the two best centers to ever play. It’s tough but I think shaq at his peak was better. Hakeem was definitely better in the early-mid 90’s but yeah I believe they both should be on the list. If I’m being honest, I truly believe the best players are Jordan, lebron, Kobe, Shaq, Durant, Hakeem, Duncan, magic, bird and *maybe Gianni’s at 10 when it’s all said and done. The dudes before the modern era couldn’t play like the guys in the modern era. I.E. Kareem, wilt, Oscar, jerry, Russell.

[@hakimmccants1370]

I’m Kobe fan ! Ima just say that Kobe should be in everybody top 5 regardless. Far as Shaq he should’ve been in the top ten too not just Mr. Fundamental

[@jaket5716]

facts I simply don’t understand how anyone can act like kobe isn’t at least #5.. MJ is the only one who is clearly better but really MJ, magic,kareem, and lebron are the only 4 players who can make a real argument for being ranked just ahead of him and those 4 ONLY making him at least #5. blows my mind how some ppl don’t see he’s easily #5 at least

[@IamNotTrey]

@@jaket5716curry>magic

[@pookyman12]

I'm taking Bird over KD cause of the Era and 3 rings to 2 rings. On a deeper level I'm taking Bird cause I believe KD would have 0 rings if he didn't join the Warriors.

[@melorileytv3408]

Bird has 3 rings not 4 sorry and bird would have 0 rings if he didn’t play on a superteam u might wanna go look at bird teammates 4 hof on his team and had a top 2-3 team of all time the 86 Celtics so stop the bs bird has played on superteam his whole career those are facts the 80s is the superteam era

[@ozeralexander1331]

Bird had 4 hof in their prime

[@QW22312]

@@melorileytv3408 all of KD s rings are from forming a super team. And Bird got his rings against the Lakers who also were a super team.

[@askask2721]

@Melo Riley Tv you don't think that Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green are locks for the Hall of fame? + Andre Iguodala has a good case considering he won FMVP.

[@lewduke6608]

@@melorileytv3408 People over that because he's whyt

[@jonathanknockum1427]

How can Kobe be disrespected like that

[@brickgoon]

Facts. Anytime I see a Kobe topic I just assume they bout to be on some BS & disrespect his legacy

[@anthonywilliams9415]

Cause he Jordan 1.5. lol 😆

[@Chriswilson-vg6vp]

Disrespect is a understatement

[@canadadry4609]

If you're surprised about tim Duncan being top 10 then u dont need to be involved in making these lists ☠

[@G9Classified9]

He is easily 10-13, Kob is top 5 period

[@doesntmatter6453]

I think he meant opposed to Shaq. Somebody has to go out if you let shaq in. I prefer you take Big O out but i think that's what he was referring to.

[@theinktician]

Thank you

[@Bonescratcher]

Stephen A smoking some of that good good talking about Bird being left off the top 10 😂😂

[@jubjubhenry5612]

for real that’s a clown take stephen a is a casual

[@WolfgangSlashhaut]

Kobe is #2 all time put some respect on his name

[@chrismendez1770]

Why Because his Gone you 🤡 😅

[@vensonj]

Yea I bet you think nipsey hussle was a great rapper too

[@qceaz11]

@@vensonj G.O.A.T. comment

[@WolfgangSlashhaut]

@@chrismendez1770 yall are both 🤡's and im not from LA kid I just know the game of basketball

[@darnellwilliams8783]

@@WolfgangSlashhaut kobe is ten all time sorry but he was overrated he never won nothing if he wasn't being carried by superstar big men like shaq and Pau .

[@ianpatoc1996]

I respect Shaq but Tim Duncan should and will always be there in the top 10. He should have been higher in my opinion. The guy is a winner. The Spurs won 71% of their game regular season games since Tim Duncan was drafted. 71% , think of that. Winning percentage of 50% is very difficult to achieve but to get 71% is unparalleled. In order to become one of the greatest, you need to be consistent. Being great is not just about flashiness or power, you need to get the job done in a consistent basis. Win. Win. Win. And that what separates Tim Duncan from the others.

[@NoName-cn3cp]

TD is top 3.

[@rpalmer274]

Ya but he was never as popular as kobe kobe was a fan favorite

[@mrlalalaelmo7454]

Overrated. It’s mostly Pop. Stop making it sound like Timmy was the sole reason behind his 5 rings.

[@stopcampin4097]

@@rpalmer274 popularity don’t make u better tim Duncan would be 6-0 if it wasn’t for bron and ray Allen

[@rohangupte3545]

Oscar should not be top 10

[@_The_Journey]

Top 5 all time imo 💯 how can the “closest” thing we’ve ever get seen to Jordan only be 10? And magic Johnson himself said Kobe was better then he was

[@amartin4368]

Yeah he said that bec he died. Kobe should be at number 10. That’s not bad number to be at

[@shiro9112]

lmao magic johnson said a lot of players is better than he is… Magic is literally lakers bias magic is not credible

[@_The_Journey]

@@amartin4368 he said that before his death bud

[@_The_Journey]

@@shiro9112 very credible in fact

[@shiro9112]

@@_The_Journey bruh magic literally said lakers will win championship when they were one of the worst teams in the nba and rebuilding

[@libanjama8622]

Every Person playing ball on the streets would scream out “Kobe” while shooting in the 2000’s. Kobe one of the best to ever do it.

[@kasimshaikh3750]

Popularity has nothing to do with greatness. Secondly I know many kids who preferred Iverson over Kobe that doesn't make Iverson better than Kobe.

[@IsmOkeTiLLIsleEp]

The disrespect toward Kobe has to stop … if u ask any basketball player their top 3 will most probably consist of MJ , Kobe and Lebron … even Shaq who beefed with Kobe for years .. when asked “who do you think is the GOAT Lebron or MJ “ he answered “what about Kobe?” … this list should be done by basketball players not journalists ..!!!!

[@lakersfan2425]

The Kobe disrespect has been going on for so long it’s crazy! You’re right, I would love to see a players list

[@stevenking3639]

Top 5 dead or alive

[@MambaBlackOP]

🙋🏿🙋🏿🙋🏿 Hey my good brother, I have to respectfully disagree. I love Kobe to death, but I view him as a copycat MJ. I can't put two of the same players in my top 3.

[@jayfrmda6235]

@@MambaBlackOP big facts

[@IsmOkeTiLLIsleEp]

@@MambaBlackOP I respect what you say but the list is not about who is the most unique player of all time. Had that been the criteria you could have an argument there and the list would have been completely different , but the question is who was the best …. Even MJ himself said at Kobe’s very first all start game “that laker boy gon take anyone 1 on 1 … “ and Kobe wasn’t even at his peak then …. Greatness recognizes greatness … and the fact is that Kobe was the only one who came anywhere near MJ greatness.. he even droped a 50 piece on his biggest mentor as a farewell gift. Competition is not necessarily about being the most unique or most inventive … it’s simply about destroying your opponent and no1 apart from Mike could do it better than Kobe ;)

[@corey2232]

I'm old enough to remember back when Kobe was in his prime, everyone had him in the top 5 players of all time, many in the top 3. In fact, when Kobe had just made it to the Finals against the Celtics for the first time, the media was asking if he wins 4, would he be #1 or #2 against Jordan. Unfortunately for him, they lost to the Celtics, and the media kind of chilled out. Even though he went on to win 2 more rings, people mostly kept him top 3 or top 5. But Lebron started taking over, we never got the Kobe vs Lebron finals we wanted, and over time he dropped further down the list. It's just crazy to me that NOW the same media acts like they weren't drooling all over him that whole time. Even when Lebron was in the NBA taking his team to the Finals, Kobe was being called the best in the league. But after getting swept by the Mavs in the playoffs while being defending champs, that narrative disappeared & the media decided to just move on.

[@str8duval]

Actually that's not true. ESPN and particularly has never had Kobe rated even in the top 5. You might have an individual guy like Mark Jackson who would question if he was good at Jordan but he was never anywhere near rated top three or even top 5. I can literally show you list from multiple Outlets and some of them didn't even have Kobe in the top 10. And this was like 10 or 12 years ago

[@daytrue6995]

@@str8duval We should let players do the rankings 😂

[@corey2232]

@@str8duval Incorrect. I don't care what ESPN's "lists" said, I'm talking about what they were saying on all the talk shows & the pre-Finals breakdowns & all over the sports world. Individual analysts CONSISTENTLY would debate him vs Jordan, and many would even throw out things like "he's the better offensive player" quite often. You can find clips of these debates all over the place. When Phil & Shaq left, Kobe dragged the Lakers with Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown, etc. to the playoffs & nearly beat the Suns on his own. People used to downplay that, but then over time you saw that narrative change too. Even without other stars, you need strong role players. People saw how stacked the West was, & Kobe stayed put anyway. Without any other star or capable role player, Lebron struggled even worse in the West. When AD & the squad was healthy, the won another title. I clearly remember these discussions, because at the time I *HATED* the guy. I'll be the first to admit being one of those guys who hated the top player for always keeping my favorites down. As a 6-13 year old, hated Jordan. As a 13-25 year old, hated Kobe. Since the minute he was playing, hated Brady. But I can at least respect them & give them their praise. They earned it.

[@n26061983]

@@corey2232 That time when Kobe and the Lakers blew a 3-1 lead?

[@datsapaddlin]

@Prolific Officer Yeah but most the time he was playing super teams as the underdog or his team was hurt other than Dallas. It’s like criticizing Kobe for losing to the Celtics when Bynum was hurt or the Suns both times as the underdog or to twice the Jazz twice when he was younger. It makes no sense.

[@HoopsCulture]

That’s a great list but Kobe at 10 seems a little off.. 🤔

[@JAYSPLASHMUSIC]

u right. He should be 11-12

[@yaomitch]

VERY

[@legion24100]

@@JAYSPLASHMUSIC the hate is forreal and ill always wonder

[@Mrballerize]

I have Kobe at 9 at the lowest, and 6 or 7 if you highball him. Anything higher, or lower, I think is definitely wrong.

[@legion24100]

@@Mrballerize i mean there NBA players who rank kobe top 3 all time Kevin Durant has Kobe top 2 all time Tracy Mcgrady has kibe top 3...guys like iverson D wade drymond green Shaq have saud kobe is top 3....oh Michael jordan has numerous of times has siad Kobe is the only one on his level because he has his skill set ...so to act as if your opinion trumps all those greats is irony at its finest

[@jameeljames2338]

I would love to see a player only voting list. Guaranteed he’d be top 3, wouldn’t be surprised if he’s ahead of LeBron in a player vote.

[@MJMartinex23]

but that doesnt mean its accurate

[@captaincalamity8487]

That would be a horrible list too then… Kobe does not belong in the NBA top 5 and he’s my favourite player all time

[@jameeljames2338]

@@captaincalamity8487 May I ask why he’s not in your top 5?

[@SonGoku-xz8mm]

@@captaincalamity8487 ur cappin no Kobe fan wouldn’t put him top 5

[@captaincalamity8487]

No way the players are voting him over MJ, Bron and Kareem just not happening.

[@Terror832]

I don’t see how Oscar is in the top 10? When Shaq and Hakeem are more accomplished players.

[@ADG.Est.1988]

Agreed.

[@mr.ronaldlawrence1231]

true statement. I am not a Stephen A fan but "this is a tough list".

[@josiahgarmon8381]

I totally forgot about Hakeem. Mans was a monster

[@captaincaveman2400]

The starting point to be considered a top 10 player should be a multi time champion. Big O while a great player only has one

[@aggelostzimagiorgis]

Yeah Oscar is not top 11 probably top 15 tho

[@LocustAndWildHoney]

Kobe absolutely deserves to be ranked higher in my opinion

[@kevinrichards4346]

Kobe was the best player in a decade that had the BEST talent of basketball. That alone is top 5 worthy.

[@JWil97]

Not really. He was the absolute best player only from 2005-2007. You are a little fangirl if you think otherwise

[@MrYgfamily21]

@@JWil97 you are dust under my shoes

[@jb.3820]

What decade are you talking about? 2000 to 2010? The league sucked during that decade.

[@mrshorts7167]

@@MrYgfamily21 your a idiot, Kobe is overrated dude has only 1 mvp

[@kevinrichards4346]

@@mrshorts7167 MVP means nothing...do you really consider Jokic the best player in the NBA? like seriously? Steve Nash even has two...all MVP means is "your team did better than expected"

[@crux7366]

GET ME ON FIRST TAKE! I’ll debate anybody, the Kobe disrespect has to stop 💯 people are so quick to dismiss him based on his numbers. Mainstream media been against Kobe for years now tho, nothing new. GET ME ON THE SHOW 💯🤣

[@graffitilee85]

Absolutely crazy having him at 10 smh

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@fahimabrar277]

He’s 6-8

[@fahimabrar277]

He accomplished less in his career than Jordan LeBron Kareem and Magic and Duncan… he’s the most similar to Jordan in terms of mentality and playing style which is why so many people overrate him when realistically he’s like 5-7 all time

[@amenx]

@@fahimabrar277 he hadn’t accomplished less what are you talking about?

[@n_tha_middlew.674]

I lost all respect for ESPN. This isn’t the 1st time they disrespected Kobe

[@aramatossian7944]

factual

[@charliedcho]

Continued disrespect 🤦🏻‍♂️. Kobe is number 2 in my book.

[@MrGenexxx]

@@charliedcho Kobe is number 2 not only in your book. Just ask the players who not on Klutch payroll yet.

[@avocaza1393]

@@charliedcho Kobe is either #2 or top 5 in many people's list including international fans. I've been to several countries, and the people I asked put him in high regards. It is only the media that discredits him to boost LeBron.

[@khalidnawabi7188]

Kobe is top 10 bro ... relax

[@donaldziggler4520]

Tim Duncan Never Missed The Playoffs His Whole Career That’s Greatness

[@strikeout77777]

he was a system player and manu/parker carried him

[@donaldziggler4520]

@@strikeout77777 .. He Was Winning Way Before They Showed Up Won A Chip As Well & Finals MVP

[@kevinmoton7326]

The big fundamental

[@strikeout77777]

@@donaldziggler4520 he was carried by david robinson and popavich

[@donaldziggler4520]

@@strikeout77777 Doesn’t Make Sense They Had A Losing Record The Year Before He Arrived His Arrival Alone Transformed The Whole Franchise Can’t Find To Many Players On This List To Win A Chip & Fianls MVP In The 1st Or 2nd Year In

[@Hubtones1]

Kobe took more risks so percentage wise he's slightly less efficient but he has probably the best highlights.

[@jeffdaman6969]

Nah. That’s MJ

[@avocaza1393]

@@jeffdaman6969 Nah. It's Kobe

[@jeffdaman6969]

@@avocaza1393 definitely not

[@louisnoel7936]

Same could be said for A.I. But one thing Kobe had over AI was them 5 💍

[@gangstagummybear3432]

@@louisnoel7936 AI had no shaq or dwight howard, pau gasol, gary payton, etc...and no phil jackson

[@Riles3152]

Well he should definitely be higher than Oscar. Everyone else on that list above him, I’m not totally outraged about. Kobe is my all-time favorite player and athlete in any sport, but objectively, he’s somewhere in the top 10. But the fact that Shaquille O’Neal is not on this list is embarrassing and disappointing. When he was at his peak, there was not a more dominant player in the history of the NBA. A 4 time champion and 3 time finals MVP. How does he not make it into the top 10 at the very least? That’s an absolute joke.

[@machu25]

Its ESPN. Their rankings are always a joke

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@tawonamagede6637]

Larry Bird,Magic Johnson ,Oscar ,Wilt they aren't better than Kobe

[@Rich-km7pr]

Truth be told, no one on that list is better than Kobe was aside from Jordan, so I'm annoyed. Then again, it's an ESPN list, so it's a joke.

[@JustCam84]

Bruh they be disrespecting Kobe with these rankings, smh he is better then at least 3 dudes in there and him and Tim Duncan it’s a toss up ⬆️ they both left with 5 rings. Kobe’s postgame footwork alone gets him to number 7. Let’s not even talk about his defensive impact.

[@emotionaldamage4401]

@I Side Effect I Kobe's record against Timmy's spurs in playoffs is 18-12 😂

[@datsapaddlin]

They ain’t even put Shaq in the top 10 😂. I know he hot rn 😅

[@str8duval]

@@emotionaldamage4401 you mean Kobe and Shaq record lol

[@str8duval]

Don't be ridiculous.. out of hundreds of all-time great players being put at number 10 is far from being disrespected. And No, his postgame and footwork alone does not automatically put him in number 7 lol.

[@datsapaddlin]

@I Side Effect I I’m taking Hakeem over Duncan to be honest. Rings don’t mean you are a better player. Duncan had the better career because his team was stacked with talent but Hakeem was the greater player. I feel the same with Wilt and Bill Russell. He used to Kill Bill.

[@jjstraka1982]

Duncan gets no respect. Frankly, I have no idea why we just decided by acclimation LeBron is better. Guy has a MUCH more impressive post-seasons resume and nearly the same longevity. And he didn't need to chase titles on multiple super-teams.

[@skywalker2759]

Stfu Played for a legendary organization with five or six other Hall of Fame is plus a Hall of Fame coach in his rookie season he played with another Hall of Fame center stfu bro lol 😂 LeBron stays in Cleveland he never wins

[@not_da2159]

Duncan better than Bron? Lmaoo y’all are getting besides yourselves

[@jayfrmda6235]

@@not_da2159 no cap

[@skywalker2759]

@Rick Sin so you’re just going to forget about the fact that he play with Robinson who was definitely a Hall of Famer at the time Plus let’s not sit here and act like the San Antonio Spurs were a horrible organization when Duncan came in

[@skywalker2759]

@Rick Sin I’ll give you that 💯 And in my opinion Timmy should be top 5 but that’s just me 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@matthewyiu9384]

We should respect him by not overrating him after his death

[@reconstructione-dub7802]

Kobe should be Number 1!! Mamba Forever💪🏽🙏🏽🏀

[@danarmstrong943]

Goat 🐐 Jordan > Copycat Kobe Rings Jordan 6✔️ Kobe 5 Finals Mvps Jordan 6✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2 League Mvps Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 1 Total Mvps (league and finals) Jordan 11✔️ (most all time) Kobe 3 Scoring titles Jordan 10✔️ (most all time) Kobe 2 Steals leader Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993) Kobe 0 All defensive first team selections Jordan 9 in 15 years 60% ✔️ Kobe 9 in 20 years 45% Defensive player of year Jordan 1✔️ (1988) Kobe 0 Career Steals Jordan 2,514✔️ Kobe 1,944 Career blocks Jordan 893✔️ Kobe 640 Seasons played Kobe 20 Jordan 15 Points per game (regular season) Jordan 30.12 ✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 24.99 Player efficiency rating Jordan 1st all time ✔️ Kobe 24th all time Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg career Seasons average +30 ppg Jordan 8✔️ Kobe 3 Seasons average +30 ppg on 50% fg Jordan 5✔️ Kobe 0 3point% (NBA finals) Jordan 36.8%✔️ Kobe 31.4% Playoff game winning buzzer beaters Jordan 3✔️ Kobe 1 Game trying or go ahead shots in 4th quarter last 24 seconds to take lead or tie Jordan 9-18 fg for 50%✔️ Kobe 7-28 fg for 25% Jordan way better player then Kobe Bleacher report NBA top 50 best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant 1991 NBA finals Bulls 4 Lakers 1 First ring Jordan 31.2 pts and 55.8% fg and 50% 3pt and 6.6 rebs and 11.4 ast and finals mvp 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 First ring Kobe 15.6 ppg, 36.7% fg, 20% 3pt Carried by Shaq 38.0 pts, 61.1% fg, 16 rebs Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps and best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant 2nd option Jordan 6 times best player on his teams titles more then Kobe 2 times 2004 NBA finals Pistons 4 Lakers 1 Kobe 22 pts and 38% fg and 17% 3pt and locked down by Tyshaun Prince 2004 NBA finals Shaq O'Neal 26 pts and 63% fg and 10 rebs vs Detroit Pistons

[@pancon5]

Shaq should be in, 3 Finals MVP's! In the place of Oscar, one ring playing second fiddle to Kareem. There is NO WAY Larry Legend and Tim Duncan get outside of the top 10.

[@handymanwitthatool2787]

You know Oscar never even had an all star teammate until the bucks drafted Kareem now imagine trying to win a championship against the Celtics dynasty that featured 14 hall of famers or wilt chamberlain or The Knicks and your second best player is a plumber

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals. Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@pancon5]

@@handymanwitthatool2787 The plumber bit was brilliant. 😁

[@handymanwitthatool2787]

@@pancon5 thank you 😁

[@richardstanley1285]

All I know is if you put him up against anybody on that list he still dropping 30.. I'm not a kobe fan, but ill never deny his greatness💯 They got Mike in the right spot tho😁👌🏾

[@dominickwilliams3757]

There’s more to ball than scoring. Kobe’s best scoring year the lakers lost in the first round to the suns.

[@QSLIMQ]

@@dominickwilliams3757 LeBron avg a triple dub in the finals and got swept, what's your point?

[@dominickwilliams3757]

@@QSLIMQ what is your point? Dude said he’ll drop 30 on anyone so i told him scoring isn’t everything

[@QSLIMQ]

@@dominickwilliams3757 apparently rebounding and assists either bcuz both experienced the same result.

[@dominickwilliams3757]

@@QSLIMQ LeBron would never lose first round in his prime.

[@samsmith8086]

As each decade passes and more great players are discovered, this all time top 10 list is going to be a nightmare to pick

[@JovaniMiller0401]

The disrespect to Kobe is atrocious they put lebron at 2 and Kobe 10 lebron shouldn’t be 2 because he’s not nexts to MJ at all plus Kobe was loyal to his team than lebron lebron is and never was loyal to no team but the nba loves lebron so much the favoritism for him is atrocious 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

[@samsmith8086]

@@JovaniMiller0401 please stop

[@JovaniMiller0401]

@@samsmith8086 what I’m saying is true

[@samsmith8086]

@@JovaniMiller0401 i didn't bring up any names man. Your comment is strictly opinion that many people share. But again, if you refer back to my original comment there will always be bias and difficulty choosing the top 10

[@perrychambers]

I got Kobe second only to MJ. It sucks he spent his prime with smush, kwame, and Walton but he still got 5 regardless. He had absolutely no holes in his game. Bron and Kareem are right after that in my opinion

[@B.Piercesports]

No holes lol he shot 44% Jordan shot 49%

[@B.Piercesports]

Lebron shot 50.8

[@retrosoul8770]

@@B.Piercesports because LB does mostly put-backs, layups and dunks.

[@B.Piercesports]

@@retrosoul8770 what lol how come he got more 3s than kobe then?

[@retrosoul8770]

@@B.Piercesports I did say "most" of his field goal attempts are those 3ft and under from the basket which are more efficient, easier shots. Kobe spent most of his career before 3s took off with Steph Curry and is much more and better of an outside post shooter compared to Bron. But it's interesting to note he still attempted 500+ less 3s than Bron despite them playing around the same number of games.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

In Kobe's prime years from 2001-2011, Kobe was HATED just as much as he was loved. Kobe was a threat to MJ's throne, that's why. And there are people like me who hates the Lakers and always will.

[@moneyteam9291]

People like you also support different team every couple year filipinos are the worst when ti come to fans they go for heat spurs lakers celtics warriors 😂😂

[@kenwanmiles403]

Kobe did his thing from 2001 till 2013 carrying his team to the playoffs b4 he got hurt. Check da numbers

[@rajathnayak5624]

"threat to mj's throne" lol, what a joke

[@brandoncampbell6088]

Bro Im not a Lakers fan but Kobe is #3 on my list! Behind MJ and Kareem. LJ is 4

[@MeLoveParisHilton]

@@brandoncampbell6088 i agree with you. I think it's MJ #1, Kareem #2. Next 10 guys it is hard to argue who is clearly better to put them in order. Hate how LBJ suddenly jumped everyone to #2 on these lists.

[@brycecornelious1167]

Jordan: Don't compare me to nobody but Kobe Magic: Kobe's the greatest Laker ever Jerry West: He's the greatest player I ever seen Shaq: I'm not ready to put LeBron over Kobe So if the goat's say Kobe is that dude ,why does the media show him so little respect? Top 5 without a Doubt Number 1 if you ask me

[@dcstoy]

Very well said. So true!

[@simonhui5638]

I am a huge Kobe fan but I can’t put him over MJ but I would put him over LBJ any days

[@JhinGamer]

Agree! top 3 at least

[@xaviervega468]

Jerry West had Bron over Kobe as far back as 09.

[@brooklynprince8298]

Kobe isn't over Tim duncan... fundamental was a different breed.. should've been 6-0 in finals

[@TheChrisCOLTS]

Kobe One of the most slept on players of all time it’s crazy

[@codyking3825]

You can't be serious. Modt overated.

[@drazz402]

Did she just question if Tim Duncan should be Top 10? Hes the greatest power foward ever like its not even a question he has 5 chips and 3 finals mvps

[@qceaz11]

Disrespectful

[@coine1978]

They always hate on Tim Duncan its not even funny... The pure disrespect smh

[@askask2721]

100% Tim Duncan so underrated. Man NEVER MISSED THE PLAYOFFS!!! On top of that, the distance between him and the next Power Forward of all time is so much greater than any other position. With literally every other position, you can have legitimate debates as to who is the greatest. Everybody knows that Tim Duncan is the greatest PF of all time there is no debate there. Kobe is amazing, but the consistency Tim Duncan had and his ability to do just about everything whether that be shoot, assist, dribble, rebound, block, steal, etc.

[@askask2721]

Just because he isn't always in the media doesn't mean he should be underrated or forgot about. It's the same thing that we have discussions about when you try to erase parts of a country's history by not talking about it or pulling down statues. Just because those public monuments are no longer there doesn't mean that the people who they represented didn't exist and the history didn't happen and both the good and bad don't deserve to be talked about and all of a sudden they no longer deserve their monuments for the good they did in history just because there were certain bad things about them, like slaveholding presidents or Sir John A. Macdonald and residential schools who still did a lot of good for their respective countries and deserve public monuments. We should continue discussions about these topics while also mentioning their flaws, and the same thing applies here. Larry Bird chose to keep quiet after retirement and that doesn't mean that we should forget about him or disrespect him. Just because Larry has been fairly quiet and not going after big business ventures in retirement like Magic has, doesn't mean that he should stopped being talked about and be underrated. You don't need to be a showman to be a good NBA athlete. Magic is amazing, but Bird is either slightly better, just as good, or slightly below him. They're 1a and 1b. There's ALOT of recency bias in this list.

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Yeah she has no idea what she is talking about. Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Neither is Durant whose Achievement totals are at 11 BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30. Which means Duncan and Kobe are in the Top 5 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@tonyochotv8639]

1. Michael jordan 2. Kareem Abdul Jabar 3. Kobe Bryant 4. Lebron james 5. Larry bird 6. Magic Johnson 7. Wilt chamberlain 8. Tim Duncan 9. Stephen curry 10. Kevin durant

[@FreedomFighter2112]

You started off ok but KD and Curry still have a long way to go. Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Neither is Durant whose Achievement totals are at 11 BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30, and Kareem is #3 with 29 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@fahimabrar277]

Kobe is not ahead of LeBron and he’s not top 5, he’s like 6-8

[@nextbigthingyoutube8235]

Curry isn’t better than Hakeem or dr j

[@tonyochotv8639]

@@FreedomFighter2112 it’s more to it than just achievement totals. It’s a combination of achievements, stats, moments, defense, prime stats, level of competition, etc. and I put durant and Steph there mainly because they will eventually be there. Usually I put Shaq and Hakeem in those spots, but when it’s all said and done, curry and durant will be in the top 10, that’s their immediate trajectory.

[@tonyochotv8639]

@@nextbigthingyoutube8235 he’s not better than them as players because they both played better defense than curry. But curry is more great than both of them as far as what he’s accomplished so far.

[@darthmarty8185]

In NO universe would I EVER even think about leaving Larry Bird out of the top 10, he is a top 5 player IMO. Larry Bird saved the NBA and helped promote it as the global game it is today, KD has yet to prove he is a real winner outside of joining a 73-9 team. Come on now Stephen A. Put some RESPECT on Larry Birds name.

[@zacqueeentertainment7336]

I love Larry but eventually people will say Steph Curry is better and they will put him in the top 10.

[@gobot581]

Idt even Larry thinks he’s better than KD. He already said Lebron was better than him back in the day on Bill Simmons.

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@WTN416]

KD BETTER PLAINVIEW SORRY KID

[@anthonym6918]

@@WTN416 you definitely don't know ball. KD has maybe the weakest resume of the entire top 20 despite having arguably the most help in the history of the NBA. He's only ever played from start to finish on superteams and still can't win anything.

[@user-my6er9fw2v]

Kobe Bryant was undoubtedly the most underestimated superstar. His career was full of ups and downs. After winning the three championships, he was despised by the media. He conquered everyone step by step with his own efforts and strength and became the face of the League at that time

[@romagnuslarsson7065]

The only 4 times ALL STAR MVP makes him the Star of the stars

[@pookyman12]

The fact ESPN GOT KOBE AT 10TH IS INCREDIBLE! ESPN hated Kobe so pretty much they saying he belongs in the top 5 of anyone's list. Closes thing you will ever see to Jordan... the great late Kobe Bean Bryant!

[@jackwhatup7]

Duncan 12-18 versus Kobe in the Playoffs. That’s all I got to say. And for those that said Kobe got carried in the first 3 forget that Kawhi and Tony won finals MVP in Duncan last 2 championship

[@sweetjones9879]

Mike drop!

[@NICANTONIO]

Everybody always says but Shaq carried Kobe thru those early playoff series especially against the spurs but its all lies go back & look at their numbers, Shaq would of never made it past Duncan & them without Kobe & he definitely wasn't getting to 3 straight. Kobe never gets the credit he deserves for those early playoff runs, he was just as responsible if not more at times like against the spurs for getting them there, his numbers were insane & he was only 21, 22 & 23 years old!

[@jeffreyacosta5024]

LOL. Tony and Kawhi wasn't the best player when they've won the FMVP. It was just the media getting tired of Timmy winning his 4th and 5th FMVP

[@torpedospurs]

Should've been 16-19 if not for Kobe's Achilles rupturing. And 8-1 when Phil Jackson isn't coaching.

[@JoeSmithGOAT]

I remember Kobe having 2 MVPs, 3 FMVPs, and the most all-nba defensive selection. Oh wait 🤣 It's funny how it goes from 'Team sport' to 'Individual accomplishment' just to support your arguments 💀

[@outofnaija]

Tim Duncan is a more accomplished player than Shaq. He deserves to be higher than Shaq in my opinion. I am happy he is in the top 10. No flash but very effective and a winner and competitor.

[@DrzPapi126]

No. Duncan was more accomplished due to being in a great franchise his entire career.

[@Exumpting]

@@DrzPapi126 bro Shaq literally was on the lakers,Celtics, heat, and cavaliers All championship contending teams while Duncan stayed put his whole career so u tell me who’s had it easier

[@gobot581]

@@DrzPapi126 if you account for Hakeem never having a Penny , Kobe , or Dwade he might be over Shaq. Two championship and an MVP with worse teams one of them against Shaq

[@dancepro67]

@@DrzPapi126 he was the reason pop became great! he took criticism on the chin as the star player so the other players on the team fell in line. pop wouldve been fired if duncan wasnt so patient.

[@dancepro67]

@@Exumpting shaq wasnt always on contending teams, duncan made sure they always had a shot at winning every year from young till old.

[@ThaGhettoBlaster]

Kobe over Duncan too. Duncan never repeated as champ and is lower than Kobe on the scoring list.

[@Johenz]

More Regular season mvp, more finals mvp, same amount of finals, same amount of rings, Duncan was dominated for a longer period of time. Won a chip in 1999 and last chip in 2013 while Kobe teams was struggling.Never had a losing season. Went to more finals

[@SonGoku-xz8mm]

@@Johenz Kobe’s better stop also got yoinked out of more MVPs

[@terrystyles3486]

Duncan 5 rings so dont matter if he never repeated Kobe Bryant never won atleast 3 finals mvps Durant better player then Kobe anyday Finals Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 3 Kobe 2 League Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 2 Kobe 1 Total Mvps ( league and finals) Duncan 5 Kobe 3 Field goal% Duncan 50.6% Kobe 44.7% Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 10

[@terrystyles3486]

@@SonGoku-xz8mm Kobe Bryant didnt get yoinked out of anything stop the lies Duncan better player then Kobe anyday Finals Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 3 Kobe 2 League Mvps ( individual player) Duncan 2 Kobe 1 Total Mvps ( league and finals) Duncan 5 Kobe 3 Rookie of the year Duncan Yes Kobe No Field goal% Duncan 50.6% Kobe 44.7% Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time

[@isaacsmith3901]

@@Johenz Duncan didn’t dominate for a longer period tho. Duncan’s prime was from like 99-07. While Kobe was from like 00-13. Duncan lost in the 1st round 3 times in career and Kobe only did twice. The difference was Kobe was playing on terrible rosters that tbh had no business even making the playoffs while Duncan and the Spurs were losing as favorites (09’, 11’). In 11’ Duncan lost as #1 seeds to a 8 seed (only happened 1 other time in NBA history). When it comes to Total accolades (MVPs, FMVPs, Chips, Stat Leader, DPOY, ROY, All NBA, All Defense, All-Star selections, All Star MVPs, etc.) It’s close, Kobe has 61 to Duncan’s 58. When it comes WINNING head to head matchups in the playoffs (where it matters most), Kobe won 4 out of 6 vs Duncan. Kobe always torched the Spurs and was almost always the best player in the series. As far as EYE TEST, Kobe was the best offensive player and one of the better defenders in the NBA at times during his career. Kobe was getting 1st team defense while also being a league leader in scoring. Duncan can’t say that. The gap that exists between Duncan’s offense and Kobe’s offense is bigger than the gap that exist between Duncan’s defense and Kobe’s defense.

[@HappyHaul]

Duncan wasn’t as flashy but his accomplishments is just as stacked as anyone else on this list. 5 chips, 3 finals mvp, 2 mvps. The guy is always in the playoffs, never missed.

[@d.michael372]

Two players that really get snubbed on these list; The Dream and Dr. j. Hakeem is the most complete center of all time, and basically played his whole career without a legitimate number two guy.(after Sampson got hurt) If Dr. J’s whole career was played in the NBA we would be debating his GOAT status.

[@d.michael372]

@Reign Supreme LOL Dr.J was Jordan before Jordan. He should be there. He gave the ABA his all, and still had enough juice merging w the NBA to inspire Magic, Mj and a host of others who would propel the NBA to its popular status.

[@JovaniMiller0401]

I agree

[@michaelfrazia4569]

Larry controlled the game the way magic did ..they game flowed through each player...they brought the NBA from the dark ages to the modern era ..if magic is there , bird has to be...they were both just about equal...so if bird is off...magic is off...I even agree with placing magic higher than bird because of his size at point guard...but both are top 10...leadership is a possible knock I've heard on KD...that is important in rating a top 10

[@imgorgeous03]

Couldn’t have said it Better bro!

[@zb2747]

Facts - people forget this. Larry and Magic saved the league and MJ made it international along with early euro players

[@WEGOTBUCKSENT365]

This comment here is the problems with y’all fans. You actually said Magic was equal to Bird when Magic literally beat Bird way more times in the finals then he beat him. He actually been to the finals and won more chips than him. How are they equal?? They were rivals. That’s doesn’t mean they were equal.

[@RyKiliam]

@@WEGOTBUCKSENT365 magic was running through an easier conference in the playoffs as well as having a bit of a better supporting cast in Kareem and worthy. Magic might have lasted a little longer with birds back giving out but bird won 3 straight mvps when they were in their primes

[@anthonym6918]

@@WEGOTBUCKSENT365 you really don't know basketball... Magic played on what was at the time the most stacked dynasty ever assembled in the sport

[@stephenandrew7314]

I say Kobe should be in the top 3 and he number 2 in my book. Shaq definitely should be up there swapping out anyone after 4 minus Kobe

[@Slapshot544]

There's at least 5 players better than Kobe

[@sarahlutaaya5540]

No what r you on about

[@cmc2110]

@Aaron9 exactly and why y’all hating on Lebron… the dude is a solid top 2 and can be 1 based on who is doing the list

[@ronnypooky]

i love kobe, but he isn't top 2.

[@terrystyles3486]

I say you don't know basketball lol

[@dannyhantx]

The fact that Shaq's not in the top 10 is ridiculous. He was the last guy to 3peat and won 3 FMVP all 3 finals.

[@kissofdeath9660]

Kobe should've had the fmvp but agree

[@MindfulAttraction]

It blows my mind people think magic is better than bird. Back in the 80s EVERYONE knew bird was better. Bird was a better shoote from everywhere, from the post, from the three, from the mid-range, from the free throw line, and even in the clutch, he was a defender, remember three time all defensive, better rebounder, and had a grittier game

[@RPGPiixe]

This is why you're not a sports analyst.

[@queyoung6597]

Even though Bird is on record saying Magic is the best basketball player he's ever seen. Plus he beat Larry in 2 out of 3 finals they played together. There is plenty NBA evidence to prove your statement false.

[@masongreen1371]

maybe as a scorer and shooter.

[@MindfulAttraction]

@dflowers30 first of all magic didn't even lead his team in assists until his fourth year. He didn't get the reign of the team until 1986 when he started shooting more. Prior to that Larry Bird was three time MVP in a row, and the other four times he didn't get the MVP he was second. So for 7 years of the 80s bird was either MVP or came down to 2nd. And birdie was the better defender. He was three times all defensive team. The dude was a all around score, the second best passer in the '80s, and he wasn't second fiddle to Kareem. I can show you countless of evidence.

[@MindfulAttraction]

The only reason why people remember magic as a better player was because he played with more charisma and was more charismatic towards the media. He had the shinier personality. Bird was highly disliked by the media and didn't like talking to them. He hated attention to the point that he left Indiana State because they were too many people. The magic was the opposite. How do I know this? Because I pretty much watched every 80s game available. And I watch every press conference of bird and magic that's available. And my uncles both lived in California and Boston to tell me

[@nutts1223]

Tim Duncan never had a losing season (Lebron in present season working on his 2nd losing season with Lakers). And was 5-1 in Finals. Beating Lebron 2-1 in Finals play. That 1 lost I beef about with Ray Allen saving the series. ha. But Duncan absolutely deserves to be up there and recognized for his excellence and accomplishments. All I see Lebron is incredibly durable to be acknowledged. Congrats on what he has done with his durability.

[@nutts1223]

Lebron snuck in a 4th chip thanks to the help of a healthy AD in a time that nobody wanted to play bball in a bubble.

[@Vastatio]

The Spurs STILL have a winning record over every team in the regular season because of him, the disrespect is insane.

[@strikeout77777]

mr fundamental was a boring system player carried by manu/parker and popavich.

[@nutts1223]

@@Vastatio Facts :)

[@skywalker2759]

@@nutts1223 if he didn’t win that year you would be killing so stfu bro

[@Ma1q444]

What’s even more disrespectful is not having Hakeem on that list

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

The two Mickey Mouse ring Hakeem? 🐭 That fraud?

[@sonofpaper5722]

Kobe got to top 5. He's won more with less talent on his team during his 2 championships 09 10

[@LDNballer]

Less talent???? U must be 12

[@sac1211]

Hes top 10

[@BOBBYBOMACLLC]

Exactly

[@Bluecmu]

Casual

[@kasperrieberg3495]

@@LDNballer He only had 1 all star on his team though !

[@kennethhead5448]

Kobe is 12 time all NBA defense. 9x 1st team. played Both side of the court. Kobe should be no less than 5

[@janonjones5276]

7 sound bout right

[@oddball9743]

Between 7-10

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 and Kareem with 29...which means Kobe should be #4 or #5...due to Wilt When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@fahimabrar277]

He got most of his defensive team selections based on name and reputation after 2005 that even Phil Jackson was confused he was being named to the defensive team. You can’t use those to really judge him

[@Michael_Page]

No disrespect, but Kobe over Oscar all day every day. Oscar had the triple doubles, but much like Westbrook, he did not win very much. Plus, Kobe has 5 chips and Oscar has one (past his prime on a team carried by Kareem). Good list though. These are the top 10 guys to me regardless of the order.

[@signsofthetimestvhq1134]

Larry Bird should be moved to 11 behind Shaq Durant Kobe and Oscar

[@georgejohnson3859]

@@signsofthetimestvhq1134 no f'n way. Shaq was lazy. He did this to himself.

[@signsofthetimestvhq1134]

@@georgejohnson3859 Shaq played 8 years longer than Bird. Bird had a fragile back and only 9 good years, whyteboys have inferiorr genes

[@georgejohnson3859]

bringing up race doesn't make your argument. Bird hurt is back fixing his Mom's property. That doesn't happen today. Plus their were tragic events to Celtics players that ended Bird being a role player on great teams. Bird was still better and more impactful. Shaq should be #1 easy but he didn't want it. It's that simple.

[@JohnDoe-kv4gt]

Larry Bird is easily top 10 (2nd best sf to ever play the game)

[@tyrinrush7133]

Majority NBA players say Kobe top 3 so that’s who’s opinion I’ll respect 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@faisal4523]

That’s something the media won’t tell you. Kobe was a bonafide killer. Anybody who played against him will admit his greatness

[@Mikeb37222]

Kobe #2 in my book!!

[@twistedfate708]

It's sad how they are doing Kobe dirty now. Just a few years ago he was top 3 for almost everybody.

[@marcusg1021]

Top 3? No he wasn't. Maybe your friend circle.

[@Skippy81]

💰

[@dbz4735]

@@marcusg1021 ask nba player they got Kobe 80% on top 2 or top 3 and non casual nba fan are not born 2009 they got Kobe top 3 some top 2 so yeah

[@gzk13kc28]

@@marcusg1021 the goat conversation was between kobe and jordan....u are under 15 or something

[@marcusg1021]

@@gzk13kc28 I'm 40, and no. The goat conversation did not have Kobe in conversation. They only say Kobe was the next thing to mj, because of the style of play was mirrored exactly as Jordans.

[@JonnyLin7]

1. Michael Jordan 2. Lebron James 3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4. Bill Russell 5. Shaquille O'Neal 6. Magic Johnson 7. Larry Bird 8. Hakeem Olajuwon 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Tim Duncan Honorable Mentions: Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant, Wilt Chamberlain Edit: After seeing a lot of folks list, Hakeem is the most wildly underrated player. He went to 3 finals as the best player, won 2 incredibly difficult championships in '94 and '95, one without a single all-star on his team, and another as a 6 seed (lowest seeded champion ever) having no home court advantage every series. In that run, he went through an absurdly talented gauntlet of HOF big men including just absolutely dominating a prime David Robinson and Patrick Ewing, and getting the better of a near prime Shaq. I think everyones aware of how good his post game was, but what's not mentioned is he is also one of greatest defensive players of all time. He was an absurdly good ahot blocker with also incredible mobility. I honestly could easily see an argument for having him top 5 all time, and I think it's absurd he's not in most peoples top 10.

[@deastwood1246]

Shaq better than magic is crazy 😅

[@skipbayless4375]

You can't seriously try and argue that KD is greater than Bird

[@newthrash1221]

He is.

[@b.g.3073]

He's a full-fledged idiot.

[@jerrybrown7773]

I’d say bird had the better career but I’m taking KD if you ask who’s a better player.

[@makkkk_2229]

he is

[@askask2721]

There is no way that KD is better than Larry Bird. One won 3 MVP's straight and was a 3 time champion. The other blew a 3-1 team and joined the team that beat him in "the weakest move I've ever seen from a superstar period."

[@navakashgill2967]

Kobe Bryant is no less than top 8 all time. That being said it’s important to note that when talking about the greatest players in the history of a sport, particularly in a sport that that has such a rich long history, the difference between the top 10-12 guys is virtually nothing.

[@LeanieSigel]

Good comment I say this all the time. A sport where thousands of ppl have played in you have fans that will argue between where they place top 10 players. Lol The argument between lebron and Jordan is actually nonsense no matter where you place the two idc if you think one is 10th. The gap between the two could be splitting hairs anyone regarded by most as a top 10 player at that point is a matter of preference when it comes to where a fan would place them. Who am I to argue with a older person that says Bill Russell is the greatest when I too have him in my top 10 also.

[@stopcampin4097]

Yeah the moment the top 10-5 are named it’s all preference and on what your metrics of greatness is

[@onepiece6529]

Kobe has more 60 point games than Magic , LeBron, Oscar, Bird, Bill Russell, & Kareem combined

[@dpok5302]

@@onepiece6529 so?

[@sturrrdy]

east fix, Change tim Duncan with Kobe Problem solved

[@jermainedevries5536]

Ain’t no way you taking Timmy D and Bird out that top 10! Bird was the best player in the league for 4-5 years straight before injury derailed him. Magic had Kareem , Worthy and B.Scott! Come on man

[@B.Piercesports]

Bird came into the league at 23 or 24 he was old already

[@Serve3000]

Wilt oscar Robertson and bill Russell

[@handymanwitthatool2787]

Lol calling out magic supporting cast to make an argument for bird is the wrong approach his whole starting 5 are hall of famers 😂

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@assassinrylles]

Espn just dumb! doesnt mean if hes dead you gotta disrespect Kobe like that hes top 2 Kobe’s FANS KNOW THAT.

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3

[@CJ-hj8cs]

Kobe retired and people suddenly put him on a pedestal . He died and suddenly he’s the goat . No . Kobe was all time great but Kobe was just as likely to shoot you out of a game as win it for you . He’s right where he belongs , #10

[@jaylenflanagan1295]

Should be top 20 at the most

[@blkscreen15]

The impact that Kobe had was on par with Mike.

[@richardmills6669]

Not a chance. That’s laughable. MJ was the best player in the league most of his career. Kobe wasn’t the best player on his own team for 2 of those chips. And he was only arguably the best player in the league for 2-3 seasons

[@MrGenexxx]

@@richardmills6669 Your comment is laughable. Kobe was objectively the best for a decade 2002-2012. Then Lebron finally took over for two years 2012-14 and since 2014 KD been the best.

[@dominickwilliams3757]

🤣. U must not have been around when Jordan was on the bulls. It’s not even close.

[@dominickwilliams3757]

@@MrGenexxx I can tell you this back in 02,03,04 05 no one though Kobe was the best player in the league. 02 and 03 he wasn’t even the best player on his team.

[@Savage-cx9uk]

@@dominickwilliams3757 those were rebuilding years what about 06 dropped 81 points pls you guys a bunch of dummies like Kobe said he should be atleast 3 let’s jus be real

[@nicholasclaytonli]

Soo why doesn’t anyone say that Kobe never played with another top 75 of all time for his two championships..Pretty much everyone else in the top 10 did…Don’t think that’s very fair…he should be ranked higher

[@joeljohnson6137]

Actually Shaq was tho lol

[@MrGenexxx]

“Because Pau Gasol is most underrated superstar ever and should be top 15 all time” - Kobe hater

[@skywalker2759]

HE HAD THE BEST COACH OF ALL TIME Stfu

[@nicholasclaytonli]

@@joeljohnson6137 uhh please read what i wrote again..

[@danielgonzalez4114]

Kobe won 3 out of 5 with shaq while Duncan won 2 out of 5 with Robinson

[@duvaltilwedie904]

KD is great, but I’m just not giving him credit for going to a stacked team like that, he is better than Steph and klay that was never the issue, Not trying to bring up old stuff but No if shaq not in the top 10, KD isn’t either.

[@majormxwll8317]

That mean Lebron shouldn’t make it at all then.

[@user-pu3cf9pd2m]

KD won't ever be top 10 after he chased those two rings lol.

[@majormxwll8317]

@@user-pu3cf9pd2m Golden state had just blown a 3-1 lead in the finals the year before. They needed KD because Lebron and Kyrie were problems! They begged him to play there. He was the best player on the team when he went over there. Thats not chasing to me! They won 2 championships because of him. KD was finals MVP twice! Also KD would have another ring with the Nets if Giannis didn’t slide from the baseline to stand under kyrie on purpose so he could get hurt. Also you can’t say that about KD without disputing Lebrons position cuz he is the king of teaming up with people! But I do agree with you on Shaq. Idk how he is not top 5. I don’t like the rankings the NBA made but I guess the list is subjective so your not wrong but ijs can’t say that about KD without saying that about Lebron.

[@theinktician]

@@majormxwll8317 They didnt need him. They could have gktten a big to replace the injured Bogut and their defense would have been fixed. They solved a problem that wasnt there. Same with OKC

[@majormxwll8317]

@@theinktician they fixed it with 2 championship

[@bball90]

Shaq: “They changed the rules for him! How could you guard a man like that!? How is he not Top 10!?” Wilt: “Yeahhhh they changed the rules for him and it was hard to guard him but… how is he Top 10?”

[@jamanwashington6426]

Yeah I was thinking like no shaq and steph deserves to be in top 10 because of impact of the game now with being greatest shooter. Kevin durant as well because he is the greatest weapon of scorer in nba history

[@billsmith7642]

Shaq not only dominated....the way he dominated, it created a level of spacing that made his teammates that much better, just being able to occupy the paint at will(even when double/triple teamed....would either dunk/baby hook them....high percentage shots, and was a phenomenal passer as a big down low....Could kick it out to the shooters at will as well

[@lone-starcustoms6314]

Who did Shaq dominate?

[@jamanwashington6426]

@@lone-starcustoms6314 everbody in his career but the ones who matched his energy was Hakeem and mj. Is that even a question lol? Mutfuckas need five centers on their roster and some of them was sacrificial lambs to use up fouls. Now tell me, when shaq left how many centers on a roster now lol. Come on man. Where did the term hack a shack comes from or the jordan rule comes from??

[@lone-starcustoms6314]

@@jamanwashington6426 Shaq was just a big dude playing against scrubs. The center position was so weak Jamaal Macgloire was an All-star center. There aren't any HOF centers from that decade except for Shaq and Yao. How dominant can he be if his Kryptonite was the free throw line.

[@IslandLife548]

Kobe is my all time favorite player, in my heart Kobe is behind no one other than Jordan. In my head I know Kobe isn't top 3, Top 5 extremely debatable, but he should NEVER be less than top 7 on anyone's list.

[@jcortez6183]

FACTS

[@sebastiangomez219]

📠

[@gwahighlights]

I don’t understand he dominated his era

[@waxdominioni3303]

Kobe the best

[@FreedomFighter2112]

Achievement (ACHV) Totals… NBA Titles: Tim = 5 Kobe = 5 Magic = 5 Shaq = 4 Bird = 3 Curry = 3 Finals MVPs: Tim = 3 Kobe = 2 Magic = 3 Shaq = 3 Bird = 2 Curry = 0 Season MVP: Tim = 2 Kobe = 1 Magic = 3 Shaq = 1 Bird = 3 Curry = 2 1st All-NBA: Tim = 10 Kobe = 11 Magic = 9 Shaq = 8 Bird = 9 Curry = 4 1st All-DEF: Tim = 8 Kobe = 9 Magic = 0 Shaq = 3 Bird = 0 Curry = 0 ACHV Totals: Tim = 28 Kobe = 28 Magic = 20 Shaq = 19 Bird = 17 Curry = 9 Curry isn’t even close to the greats. Even when it comes to scoring, he’s #17 in Career Scoring per Game. BTW, when it comes to Achievement(ACHV) Totals, Jordan is #1 with 36 and LeBron is #2 with 30 When it comes to stats Wilt is #1, Jordan is #2, and LeBron is #3