FACTS ONLY: KOBE BRYANT ISN'T A TOP 10 ALL-TIME NBA PLAYER

[@FlashmanVC]

the Ruther curse has gone too far now

[@menace5802]

Kobe vs. LeBron (no BS just pure facts) *Kobe has over (or better at) LeBron* * WAY better free-throw shooter (LeBron’s main weakness) * has 1 more championship (thanks to Shaq) * has 1 more scoring title * has 4 more all-defensive first teams *LeBron has over (or better at) Kobe* * better scorer (backed up with facts) * better shooter (backed up with facts) * better 3P shooter * better rebounder * better passer * better playmaker * better defender in his prime (could guard 1-5) * WAY better performer in the Playoffs * WAY better performer in the Finals * better at steals * better at blocks * has 3 more league MVPs * has 2 more finals MVPs * has more all-NBA first teams * was an Assist leader (Kobe never did) * was Rookie of the Year (Kobe never was) * a 16-6 record over Kobe LeBron James is objectively better and its not close.

[@teamphantomsx]

Yup

[@kearushenderson3622]

Lebron 16-6 vs Kobe Kobe copied mj whole style Lebron never snitched or blew a 3-1 lead like Kobe

[@shuggriffin6863]

Menace lol like ..all u type is different era .. Lebron aint played a great team or center in over a decade in a half.. Let check lebron skills- sloppy handles, no post game for his size, just gain a constant set shot in year 18, not constant jumpshooter, plays no defense, scared of late game free throw, one dimensional ,and weak minded.. Kobe has no basketball weakness, there nothing he can't do with the ball.. Let debunk this Shaq argument.. Shaq got sweep two times in a row with the best PG of the 90s..Penny Hardaway.. But won 3 straight with Kobe ..he was only 20 -23 when they 3peat.. Side note Kobe came in the league at 18..so 2 years later..He 3 peats.. Lebron was supposed to be the best player..tell me y he couldn't guard Kobe..but when Kobe guards him he shuts him down.. That 16 - 6 head to head ..is a team accomplishments.. Lebron played his whole career with a better supporting cast than Kobe had .. Lebron got hof players on his team and barely can make the play in..in a weak defense era . Kobe took Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, n Kwame Brown to the 1st round out West..when they competition was defensive ..n stacked.. Kobe better than any player u put in front him except Mj..that's a fact

[@conchobar]

Look at Kobe's defensive stats. Kobe didn't earn any of those Defensive First Team selections. Kobe was a defensive liability and even Phil Jackson said Kobe was defensively overrated.

[@gregcampbell3052]

@@kearushenderson3622 who he snitch on ?

[@likkerland]

Kobe missed more clutch shots than people realized.

[@alp165]

True. I don't know how Kobe fans saying LeBron is not clutch when Kobe's record is too much lower, Kobe is a legend, and defınitely a top 10 player, but he is not better than LeBron, or a top 5 player. That is it.

[@dezzireactstv4572]

Alp I don’t think he’s top 5

[@stephenwilliams7200]

@@dezzireactstv4572 I don't think top 10

[@J34xalpha_KING]

Kobe not top 10.

[@J34xalpha_KING]

Kobe not top 10.

[@ryanarius9359]

they call it black mamba mentality when kobe misses a bunch of shots but when a certain players misses like his, they call it worst shot selection

[@lancedepedro5530]

Pure stats without context is still a garbage take. Kobe played in an era where points were so hard to come by. The league was averaging 96 ppg during the 2000’s with a league average fg% of 44.9. Kobe shot 45.7% from the field in the HARDEST era to score. Furthermore, league MVP is more of a media darling award. Kobe finished top 5 in MVP voting 11 times. The other players with the same or higher top 5 finishes in MVP voting: Kareem, Lebron, Bill Russell.. all multiple MVPs. Jordan has 10 top 5 finishes, 5 league MVPs. Wilt 10 top 5, 4 league MVPs. Meanwhile, players like Steph Curry finished top 5 3 times but has 2 league MVPs, same with Nash. I could go on, there are A LOT that have been left out of context with this stats only take.

[@gmailgmail6234]

Other players did the same in the same era is Tracy mcgrady a goat

[@lancedepedro5530]

@@gmailgmail6234 no because he didn’t win 5 championships. In fact he didn’t win a single one. Carry on

[@coolrunnings617]

...and despite this Kobe is still not top 5

[@lancedepedro5530]

@@coolrunnings617 there’s only one player better than Kobe

[@coolrunnings617]

@@lancedepedro5530 Yes, I know

[@RwandaBob]

people elevate kobe based off liking him personally far too much. the fact he died prematurely just cranks this up way more.

[@Karll541]

Fax 📠

[@ahmedabdi8909]

I’m sorry but growing up in that era I knew Bron would surpass him, I feel like he’s either extremely overrated or underrated. The fact that dudes are putting him below 10 is criminal but 5 is too high, it’s sad really that he passed but I’ve seen way more people underrating him rather than overrating him tbh

[@Mercurial.]

And they don't do that about Shaq who's a fake basketball player with PHYSICAL POWERS as a media market player who plays the funny smiling uncle with dorkey commercials who got DESTROYED and SWEPT more then any other "Superstar" in the playoffs history 👀

[@alfasiger4178]

People do the same with Lebron. The fact that the league started dwindling in defense just before Lebron started hitting his prime is something people dismiss on purpose. The best time for the sport was 80's and 90's. Why? Defense made the game tougher.

[@d3adyoutubeaccount]

Underrated

[@ry_an.]

I have Kobe so high in my all time list because I love Kobe, and just everything about his persona and his game. Obviously, when it comes to pure stats and pure basketball, it’s hard to rank Kobe even top 10.

[@ZZ-ex8py]

I would objectively rank him around 8th all time when considering stats and accomplishments

[@dejon18]

???? Dude kobe averaged 28-6-5 for a 15 yr. prime how's that hard to put in the top 10 😆 🤣. Dont let this guy fool you kobe is definitely top 10 (top 5 for me)

[@ZZ-ex8py]

@@dejon18 kobe is not top 5, stop it

[@dejon18]

@@ZZ-ex8py to me he is 33k points 7k rebounds and 6k assist (most at his position)along with 5 titles yea top 5 for me. But i understand of you think otherwise. However I think leaving him off the top 10 is just disrespect.

[@tyyyy5733]

@@dejon18 smh he isent good look at his stats

[@cosmicmike7299]

Don’t even get me started that one of his rings was the biggest scam ever in the NBA. Chris Weber should have had one of his titles

[@unknownreality8703]

Stop living in 2002 💀💀💀💀

[@menace5802]

@@unknownreality8703 the facts still stands goofy it was rigged and time wont change that🤡

[@philliprhinehardt6268]

Facts

[@jaylenflanagan1295]

This is so true

[@holyghost8467]

​@@unknownreality8703you mad bc it's facts nobody living in 2002 but you have to at the career as a whole not just the good moments

[@CoachMitchell23]

Thank you, nobody ever believes me that Kobe was 19th best all-time. FACTS!

[@IsaacLikesGames]

Another point that should be made is the fact that Kobe only has 1 MVP award, compared to Jordan’s 5 and Lebron’s 4, and technically Kobe shouldn't have any MVPs because the MVP in 2008 should have been either Lebron or Chris Paul. During the 2008 season Lebron averaged more points, more assists, more rebounds, better field goal%, better 2 point%, more blocks, and the same amount of steals as Kobe that year. Chris Paul that year averaged a double double, he was the leader in player efficiency rating that year, he was the leader in box +/-, and he was the leader in win shares that year as well. How Kobe managed to win MVP that year is beyond me. So considering the fact that Kobe's 1 MVP award of his career wasn't deserved, that means he was never the best player in the league during his career. Kobe was never the best player in the league, and yet he's somehow top 5 of all time according to a lot of basketball fans, lmao. Kobe is without a doubt the most overrated player in NBA history. I'm so sick and tired of hearing this "mamba mentality" bullshit, numbers don't lie.

[@Myblacknadz]

Mvp is a joke anyway. It's an award without real criteria. The fact that nash has 2 mvps is proof enough

[@Myblacknadz]

To add kobe was seen and called the best player in the league by nearly all nba players from 2004 to 2009. Lebron didn't take that away till later.

[@TheGr8-1]

@@Myblacknadz no he wasn’t. It was Shaq and then Duncan and then Bron.

[@tj5180]

kobe had a case tho in those years. He lead the lakers that season when Pau only played 27 games due to the trade in the deadline memphis did also andrew Byum was injured. without Kobe there the worst team in the league. Kobe took that squad to 65 wins and Kobe was the better shooter then Bron. eye test proves that while defensively and rebounding Bron was better. Numbers aren`t always accurate.

[@RealKoolKid1]

@@Myblacknadz mvp is a joke because you’re a kobrick meat rider

[@sethleger8226]

I really enjoyed this type of video! Got a SB nation vibe from this video. Great to see dirty sports grow and try new stuff! Thrust the process

[@nickdale8856]

Seth Leger Jon Bois is the man!

[@KleinpeterHank]

Kobe in the 2004 finals: Game 1: 10-27 🔥🔥🔥 Game 2: 14-27 👍 Game 3: 4-13 🍆🍆🍆 Game 4: 8-25 😩😩😩 Game 5: 7-21 😱😱😱 #Mambamentality

[@shuggriffin6863]

Against the greatest defensive team in the history of basketball

[@Karll541]

And that’s just one lol, he’s been trash in multiple and has his teammates bail him out

[@jrsmith1998]

@@shuggriffin6863dude. He was taking bad shots bro. lmao. WHy are u trying to make excuses. Kobe was always taking awful shots and not passing the ball. Bozo

[@quickchaos2009]

man he took the SHOOTING guard task to the extreme

[@nbadude1408]

Oh let’s not talk about Lebron in the 2011 finals bud

[@user-ww5zt9zt4s]

Now you told me that Lebroom is better defender than Kobe GTFOH

[@noemamba9590]

It’s crazy how Bron is clutch when he arguably played tn weakest competition in nba history he he was going up against 30,40 win teams then teamed up to beat Kobe confirmed by dwade they teamed up to beat Kobe. This vid is just an advanced stat Kobe hate vid

[@quickchaos2009]

Thanks man for bringing the FACTS. All kobe stans can argue against this is that "mamba mentality" BS

[@gavinpelto9358]

Love the new segment, nice edits by nick

[@dustinmcdowell7652]

The ultimate Ruther curse

[@KleinpeterHank]

BUT ANDY!!! HE HAS THAT KILLER INSTINCT!!!

[@swaedank1029]

Mamba Mentality for you lad!

[@liberalman8319]

@@swaedank1029 black mamba..please.. Who gives themselves their own nickname?

[@Karll541]

lol 😆

[@rafadguez2833]

@@liberalman8319your fellow LeFlop did

[@jrsmith1998]

Lol. The killer instinct argument is pushed by people who have no facts or metrics to support a claim that Kobe is a GOAT. killer instinct doesn’t put points on the board.

[@kylemartin773]

its crazy he died 1 day later

[@thomasjust2663]

And? we will all die one day

[@gggyy7104]

@@thomasjust2663 mate its a ridiculous crazy coincidence

[@codycouch9994]

Broooo, i never truly believed in the dirty sports dent/ ruther curse until today. Wtf guys rip

[@noemamba9590]

Kobe Bryant had arguably the greatest scoring season ever he should have more mvps then Nash the nba literally robbed him by vetoing a cp3 trade to the lakers and saying Kobe is a defensive liability is just pure Kobe hate. If you have to look as advanced stats you already lost your argument.

[@maniacalmitch1722]

Great Video. Remember Kobe stans FACTS ONLY

[@DeAnthonyWhitley]

Dirty sports is just a Kobe hater

[@marcpell133]

www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2020/01/24/kobe-lebron I’ll leave this for anyone who wants a little reinforcement on the stats given in this video

[@dejon18]

You mean false narrative and omitting facts only lol

[@dejon18]

@Nine tails uchiha chats what makes you think that

[@dejon18]

@Nine tails uchiha chats kobe 😉

[@deathbackwards7850]

I’d say Wilt and Kareem and Bill are up there with Jordan and James because they would have massive defensive value if blocks were counted back then.

[@BooBooDaFoo330]

1) MJ 2) Kareem 3) Bron 4) Wilt 5) Russell

[@Movveeken]

@@BooBooDaFoo330 terrible list

[@ggez-up4ol]

@@Movveeken nah

[@imlaz126]

thank you

[@menace5802]

@@BooBooDaFoo330 completely valid list actually. Kobe don’t belong in the top 5. All 5 men he listed has won at least 4 MVP’s, they are the top dogs in NBA. Kobe’s 1 MVP can even be argued to be stolen from CP3💀 Kobe was never the best player in the league in any season

[@dshoec]

True Lakers fan boys worship Kobe but it is time for a reality check. I remember watching Kobe chucking up shots in double and triple coverage. He would miss 4 in a row then make one and they would put it on sportcenter. It is ridiculous. Also his passing wasn't even average passing for a shooting guard.

[@slatwalter4121]

2nd most assists by a shooting guard all time

[@jacoblee5796]

@@slatwalter4121 That puts him at 33rd all time in assists and 154th all time in assists per game. Those numbers are really telling, he's so high all time because he played 20 years but 33rd isn't something to brag about.

[@slatwalter4121]

@@jacoblee5796 his role within his teams offense wasn’t even a passer either especially under Phil Jackson so still being the 2nd most assist at his position is impressive

[@jacoblee5796]

@@slatwalter4121 Great but 154th all time in assists per game isn't good, that isn't great and isn't something to brag about.

[@slatwalter4121]

@@jacoblee5796 like I said the lakers offense was not made for him to be a passer but just ignore that 😭😭

[@abender06]

One thing people have to realize is he played in an extremely tough era for scoring and the westen conference at the time was ridiculously stacked.

[@Mercurial.]

Exactly. And that's the CONTEXT this dorky skateboard 🛹 dude in this video NEVER mention anything about bec if he did. His so called searched "Google numbers" would be waste of space. Anybody can go use the Internet for numbers but for CONTEXT of the story they don't have any clues.

[@noncomplacent]

@@Mercurial. than I suggest you go back and watch Kobe selfishly and childishly chuck up wild shot after wild shot like a fool. If you weren't there to see his games live, You Tube is your friend. Be sure to make a mental note of the dumb look that's ALWAYS on his face. It's because he's always doing stupid sh!t and he knows it.

[@YungBZ]

@@Mercurial.i hate when casual act like they have it all figured out by googling shi lmaoo

[@Createdplayer1]

BROOO NO WAY YOU DROPPED THIS THE DAY BRON PASSED KOBE AND DAY BEFOFE KOBE DIED ITS TRUE KOBE REALLY IS OVERRATED

[@kyliemangrum8249]

KOBE I MISSSS UU

[@docallentv]

This guy said Kobe is never clutch in the playoffs. Really, lol. You definitely don't know basketball. T Mac went off on TV as they had Rudy Gay as the number 1 player in the clutch. And he won the game, everyone shot bad in the game 7. You can say that about any all time great, they had other all time players.

[@HugoSoup57]

Kobe has the most game-winners, the 6th most shots in NBA history, 4th all-time in points scored in his career, 5 championships (at least 2 or 3 of which he was the best player on the team). Yeah, Kobe detractors are simply delusional haters.

[@docallentv]

@@HugoSoup57 Right, how can someone be the closest to MJ and not top ten? He number 3 for me behind MJ, Kareem, then I got Magic next as my top 4. After that people can get moved around.

[@ohkay2360]

My man dropped this video the day b4 he died

[@geminijets33]

This video was made the day before his death wow

[@Klegend1750]

To be make this on the day he died is kinda disrespectful I think he’s definitely top 10 but not top 3 like everyone else says

[@gavanmitchell1448]

Factual information NEVER lies. I'm going to give this man a sub. Yes, I'm sorry to hear about the loss of Kobe, but we have to be objective, right?

[@hakeemmackey2738]

Lmao this video is miss leading ash buddy lol but each to his own even if it’s totally wrong

[@rawgrave_]

@@hakeemmackey2738 sure he had good stats and put up great points. But his low efficiency cannot be overlooked and it’s just hard for me to rank him among the greats although I do think he’s top 8 all time.

[@Myblacknadz]

This video can be picked apart in so many ways. Context matters

[@rawgrave_]

@@Myblacknadz please break it down for me then.

[@terrylanda7378]

Just a update When it's all said & done, this isn't even going to be a debate. LeBron vs Kobe: Regular season: Playoffs: PPG: LeBron PPG: LeBron APG: LeBron APG: LeBron RPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron SPG: LeBron SPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe FT%: Kobe MVPs: LeBron PER: LeBron PER: LeBron Win Shares: Win Shares: LeBron LeBron Plus/Minus: Plus/Minus: LeBron LeBron Rings: Kobe WS/48: Finals MVPs: LeBron LeBron LeBron is a better player then Kobe LeBron 50.3% fg higher then Kobe 44.7% fg Total career points scored LeBron 34,087✔ Kobe 33,643 Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 Kobe more missed shots then LeBron LeBron more points then Kobe Total 3pointers made LeBron 1,860✔ Kobe 1,827 Total career steals LeBron 2,011✔ Kobe 1,944 Total career blocks LeBron 951✔ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 70.43✔ Kobe 50.66 Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record 2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Playoff game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Game tying or go ahead shots in final 10 seconds to take lead in Playoffs 4th quarter LeBron 12-23 fg for 52% Kobe 5-22 fg for 23% Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history and 3x sidekick isnt top 10 all time player Bleacher report NBA top 50 best players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant 2011 NBA Playoffs Mavs 4-0 swept Kobe Bryant ▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️ LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant in 22 career meetings 😂 ▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️ January 27 2008 Cavs 98 Lakers 95 LeBron 41 points Outplayed Kobe 33 points ▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️ In this game LeBron hit shot in Kobe face to ice game ▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️▫️ December 25 2010 Heat 96 Lakers 80 LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points (triple double) Outplayed yo hero Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points January 17 2013 Heat 99 Lakers 90 LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points Outplayed Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points In this game LeBron 25 shots 17 made Kobe 25 shots 17 missed 😂 Stats during they meetings LeBron 28 ppg on 47% fg Kobe 24 ppg on 42% fg 😂 Pippen 6 rings better player then Kobe 5 rings if we going by team awards Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 pts and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 pts and 61.1% fg an 16 rebs 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe Bryant got swept by Dallas 😂

[@Flash-me4gz]

@the goathooper you are not smart please backup or debate

[@Flash-me4gz]

@the goathooper alright your just trolling now kobtard

[@TheKing-dd4gf]

zack theo lmao you think just from one final makes you a great player lmao

[@TheKing-dd4gf]

zack theo it a bad one your and idiot

[@TheKing-dd4gf]

Now he’s the first person with 17 all time performance in the 17th year lmao and you didn’t even put his points he got in the playoff generous

[@KleinpeterHank]

Well, Even video didn’t come out at the best time, still a great one Andy and Nick. Regardless of how people feel about him, a fantastic and iconic player. Prayers to his family.

[@AngelMedinaJr-zy9cl]

What annoys me so much is people look at the states more than kobe goin 1 on 1 against mj, and LeBron

[@Streatdreams22]

Lmao these bron fans man they think a guy that lost 6 finals is the goat just listen to that logic

[@DirtySports]

Bron never mentioned, but he does own Kobe in every major statistical category.

[@geert574]

Kobe will be more famous for dying than for actually being a good point guard

[@mattblock6616]

You just showed your idiocy. He was a shooting guard first of all...

[@YungBZ]

U just showed ur 13 nvr watched much Kobe and jus googled stats Kobe is a shooting guard u half baked muffin

[@yuriykhasidov1626]

Kobe isn’t on the same level and doesn’t make the top 10 in anyones lost who actually understands basketball!

[@rizahawke]

Bro was barely alive when Kobe was cooking. How you know when somebody doesn't know anything about basketball is when their entire argument revolves around basketball-reference. I also love how Kobe haters like this guy say he never won without Shaq or Pau as if anybody has ever won without another all-star. The biggest irony being that Lebron couldn't win jack shit without creating multiple super teams and still has less to show than Kobe. Facts are facts though. Kobe is not only easily a top 10 all time player, he is in the discussion for top 5.

[@DirtySports]

I'm 42 year old and Kobe is still not a top 10 player. Not sure what Lebron has to do with it, but since we're on that topic he beats Kobe in literally every single major category (minus FT %). So take your casual NBA fan takes and move along.

[@pablorp4234]

​Meanwile Jordan,Magic,Kareem,Shaq,Bird,Iverson,Curry,Dirk, Erving, West, Wade and almost NBA players and fans still saying Kobe top 2 of all time, Kobe haters are crying. These video is the best prove of how Kobe haters still being mad because Kobe is better than his favourite player

[@disheemthomas4553]

​@@DirtySportsDoes common sense not tell y'all you can't truly compare player's stats definitively? Are they playing the same teams & facing the same defenses & strategies in the same exact situations? You think teams were worried about LeBron taking the last shot more than Kobe? Hence the degree of difficulty. Who faces the most double/triple teams? LeBron's stats are also better than Kobe's in head 2 head matchups, but Kobe kills him statistically 1 on 1. TEAM dynamic & opponents dictate stats. That's why lBJ had 2 constantly pair w 2 superstars so that he could stat pad & still have a chance @ winning, but STILL has less 2 show 4 it & y'all are SO SMART, y'all can't figure that out. Overhauling duties from other positions kills the team & is not good basketball. A 44% shooter who opens up the game by consistently hitting midrange shots gets a chip in 2011 as opposed 2 a 50% scorer who has no jumper while the team packs out the paint. That's why PROFESSIONALS say f your #s. & FG% goes by position based on duties. PG

[@CoachMitchell23]

Kobe was rarely the best player on his team, and never made the playoffs when he was. As a Hornets fan, he refused to play for the team that drafted him, so F that N word.

[@dvuala]

Eh I'm takin Kobe over Bron every time personally. I could see your argument for Bron, of course but when I look at how Bron got his rings- he's got too many asterisks. Attempting to build superteams, collusion, etc. Bron is great but he didn't get a ring till Kobe was done eating and he left to stack the EC with Wade and Bosh.

[@kefkapalazzo1]

You don’t know anything about basketball and that’s okay

[@user-yg7kb1mt9z]

@@kefkapalazzo1people are starting to catch on to LeBum being a fraud, and that’s ok

[@coolrunnings617]

Talking points copied straight from the media used to make Kobe fans feel better.

[@user-yg7kb1mt9z]

LeBum barely top 75 tbh

[@dvuala]

@@coolrunnings617 what does the media have to do with anything? Are you saying he didn't stack the weaker conference with a super team?

[@terrencehouse7481]

Kobe is actually a top 15 player

[@cosmicmike7299]

Thank you!!!! He benefited from a weak era in the NBA. Here’s a fact you should have added. How low do you have to go on the all time scoring list before you get to someone with a worse shooting percentage then Kobe, let’s just say it’s more than drops him a few spots.

[@bperez003]

😂🤙 my dude u spendin way too much time hating on a dead man. 4 comments already by you

[@andrewsprague8444]

And bron had a weak east for his finals streaks while kobe had 50 win teams down to the 8th sead in the west. And a weak era as the top 75 list is out with a ton of guys specifically from that era. This is a weak era everyone shooting 3’s no dominant bigs and no hand checking. Its like you’re just talk but have no clue whats coming out of your mouth. Like the guy in the vid who leaves out a ton of kobes other accomplishments like first team d appearances allstar mvp, dunk champ had record for most three’s before the 3 ball era. Every olympic teammate looking up to him as the best and coahes. Taking the other teams best player in olympics and in the league. Yall just talk spitting bs.

[@cosmicmike7299]

@@bperez003 bro, this is the all-time greatest list. Half the debates on here are dead guys. I know it's harsh for Kobe fans because of the tragic death, and I'll admit his fyck everyone attitude and work is admirable, but you simply can't put him up there with Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlin, I even think Shaq was a much better player at his peak. I will give him mad respect because his 4th title team was trash, he carried that team, but let's be real.... 3 of his rings owe wasn't even the best player all-time, and he was a pretty unliked teammate, seems like everyone liked playing with Shaq except Kobe.

[@cosmicmike7299]

@@andrewsprague8444 I agree with you on Bron and I'm a Bron hater (thinking he is overrated) but he carried some crap teams into the finals, weak competition or none. Kobe didn't play in Michael Jordan's time for one, where getting a title was impossible for numerous greats. He wasn't even the best player on his own team during his 3peat, and one of the titles in the most contested in all time during that stretch. As far as this era being weak, I would say different but I don't see how that relates to anything being said here. If you research Kobe's defensive rating I think you will get a harsh reality, look at his + or - defensively for his career and it shows he wasn't even elite constantly (seriously please look at this statistic before you just demiss it like my last points. As far as we just talking, we are using points to justify our opinions, you are literally the one just talking non sense without supporting your case. I'm not saying he wasn't one of the most dangerous offensive players ever, but he was a ball hog that took to many shots and when you compare someone to the great one, it's important to point out that he was no Michael Jordan, not seven close. He's top 20ish in my opinion all time.

[@cmort62]

Michael Jordan’s legacy is rightfully cemented as one of the greatest to ever play. There are many who think Jordan is the GOAT over Kobe where as more and more the emerging data points to Kobe being the GOAT. Nevermind that Kobe has more points, rebounds, and assists, All NBA Defense, ALL NBA selections, INSPITE of missing 5 years worth of games, AND deferring to Shaq for 8 prime years, as well as barely playing his first couple of years, there are more compelling reasons ... Taking the players records without Pippen (for Jordan) and Shaq (for Kobe). Jordan NEVER had a winning record without Pippen inspite of playing in the JV (EASTERN CONFERENCE). *** NEVER*** His record without Pippen was 182 wins and 228 losses, a 44 % winning percentage without Pippen. His playoff record without Pippen was 1-9, with ZERO series victories. As for Kobe playing against the heavily stacked Varsity Western Conference and his record without Shaq ? Kobe had 508 wins and 458 losses, a 53 % winning percentage EVEN counting the post achilles injury years playing with 3 of the worst teams in NBA History against the deep grueling West. 53 % > 44 % In the playoffs without Shaq, Kobe won 59 games and lost 42, a 58 % winning percentage, compared to Jordan’s 10 % winning percentage (1-9) without Pippen. 58 % > 10 % All this with Kobe having far inferior teammates against significantly superior competition statistically !!! If Jordan shot a higher FG %, that’s strictly because he only shot 1/3 the amount of 3 point shots as Kobe, not that he was a better shooter, in fact Kobe was a superior pure shooter, and far superior tough shot maker than Jordan. Keep in mind Jordan took nearly 4 shots more per game than Kobe, and had Pippen to help him rest on defense, and he didn’t have to compete with prime Durant, Carmelo, Wade, Iverson, McGrady, Lebron, Harden, Westbrook etc. for scoring titles, not to mention the pressure of guarding and chasing them game in and game out. All things equal, even number of shots taken, minutes played, game pace, Kobe gets more scoring titles than Jordan. MVP’s Jordan, a media darling, had many more than Kobe. Kobe, a media villain, only had 1. However by any criterion, Kobe was blatantly robbed of between 4-5 MVP’s. One must carefully dissect both players games year by year, game by game minute by minute. Here are the findings which one would find difficult for anyone to disagree with if you analyze and dissect film for technique carefully ... There are many more compelling reasons Kobe is the outright GOAT, such as scoring capacity & ceiling, diversity & spectrum of skillset, work ethic, clutch, after all it’s not a coincidence Kobe has far and away the most game winners in NBA history, or that he scored ... - 55 in a half - 81 - 67, 62, 56, 55, 52 in 3 quarters - Averaged 40 points for a month - 4 Diffferent times. - 12 - 3 pointers in one game - 4 straight 50 point games - 9 straight 40 point games. If Jordan could, he WOULD have done any one of the above in his faster paced era’s with more possessions, no Shaq to defer to, and averaging 4 more shots per game. He didn’t have Kobe’s offensive skillset, nor ceiling and capacity, therefore he NEVER DID ANY OF THE ABOVE. Defense : Jordan did have a DPOY and Kobe didn’t. But Sidney Moncrief had more DPOY than Jordan. Was Moncrief a better defender. Timmy Duncan never won DPOY. But he controlled the game defensively, as did Kobe for his team. Jordan did have 9 ALL NBA DEFENSE Kobe had 12 (Most ever by a guard). In the end, both are extremely talented players, and Jordan did eliminate 20 - 50 win teams, which is an extraordinary achievement, however Kobe eliminated 24 - 50 win teams. In conclusion, the league has had many great players, some put up great stats, some travel from team to team building their own superteams in their quest to be GOAT, Michael Jordan should be respected as an alltime great, but a rational and objective observation of the data favors Kobe on many key variables in the GOAT debate. Perhaps best described “Michael Jordan mastered his career, but Kobe mastered the GAME”. Number of playoff games against sub 100 DRTG teams among perimeter players in modern era Jordan - 6 Kobe - 65 Average SRS (competition during a title run) Jordan - 15.41 Kobe - 18.86 Total points and assists Jordan - 32,292 pts, 5633 assists. Kobe - 33,643 pts, 6303 assists. Jordan played against man to man defense. Kobe played against zone defense, also used ISO. Championships Jordan- 6-0. Kobe 5-2. I believe the only real difference between these 2 was the Era and competition they really played Kobe deserves to be in the top 5. I actually have him 1a,1b with jordan.

[@mrmoralesmusic]

Love this video!!!

[@baustinbowers2646]

This KZbinr is actually high. 5 rings 81 points second in history (very clutch goofy) mamba mentality is on the bottle I’m drinking 9 def. Even MJ sad he was number 2 if all time most inspirational player of all time work ethic through the roofs

[@ethio-tok2552]

5 rings 3 because of shaq a nd 1 because of gasol lmfao

[@fatboi1293]

5 rings but only 2 fmvps?

[@HugoSoup57]

@@fatboi1293 Many retired NBA Legends rank Kobe in their top 10, so what detractors say against Kobe's career to try and take away from his legacy is demonstrably untrue. The people who played against Kobe or seen his game know he's one of the best to ever play on the hardwood. Shaq won 3 FMVPs because it was a prime Shaq. No one, and I mean nobody, is winning Finals MVP with a prime Shaq as their teammate.

[@fatboi1293]

@@HugoSoup57 i think kobe deserve to be 11 or 12 in all time

[@mkhan8527]

his 9 first team all-D is highly questionable. Atleast take away 5 of those. Kobe legitimately have 4 all-D first team. Most of his career, Kobe sucked on Defense. no steals leadership or DPOY to show for. Wade needs to be given 3 All-D first teams from Kobe.

[@Nate28TV]

Wow. As he said, facts don't lie. Lebron haters going crazy in the chat and I haven't even checked yet. Great breakdown.

[@tylersteak]

This take is insanely fire.

[@johnsondailysports1341]

No it’s not. Nerd. He don’t watch basketball

[@damirbrnic2343]

LBJ would never win olimpic gold if Kobe did not win it for him 2 times

[@jeremytarter7557]

Agreed. I’ve been dying this for years now

[@noemamba9590]

Kobe’s all time ppg is flawed you have to look into the context of his first years in the league. They didn’t let 18 year olds play and they had 2 all star guards but once Kobe did play he did shine as to why they let those players go not to mention shaq didn’t win until Kobe came into his own as a player he went to the finals with the magic and lost he was a loser before Kobe that’s just a fact

[@PlumbingGroyper]

Derek Jeters episode will be great

[@jesuscervantes2151]

There is a reason why this youtube channel has been going on 9years now and only has 3k subscribers.

[@gmailgmail6234]

Yea unfortunately you get more subscribers by dick riding

[@omarfarouk2777]

I’m so impressed and thankful that you made this video with facts. I tried to argue with people but everyone is sold out cos of the media hype about Kobe. I love you man. (No…). Please make more videos like this. Thanks 🙏🏼 and remain blessed. You actually forgot to add that Kobe was just media hype.

[@josephlanhardt4338]

Oh please argue with me I’m so ready for these kind of debates. I can’t believe how much people cherry pick stats that’s help bring him down. Kobe is 100% top 5 and I have absolutely every argument for it. I can’t literally pick apart every single thing you said in this video😂😂😂

[@DirtySports]

Then do it.

[@josephlanhardt4338]

@@DirtySportsI’m not writing a whole thing rn I’ll just go with the most obvious things. If you look at the shooting percentages of teams back in the dead ball era they all shot under 45% for almost all of Kobe’s career. He actually for his 13 year prime 03-13 shot below average once in 04 when he was dealing w Colorado. He was not inefficient at all his era was. He also has the most made game winners idc if his percentage is lower he took more then both of them bc he had a shit team in his prime unlike bron and Mike

[@josephlanhardt4338]

@@DirtySportsonly superstar in the goat debate too have a laughable supporting cast in the absolute prime of his ability’s.

[@georgebrady5369]

I would say only casual fans would argue Kobe was top 5 all time. casual fans only value scoring and rings which Kobe has plenty of. But cmon ONE MVP and 5 rings but only two finals mvp? That shit is great but not top 5 of all time great

[@YounginBallin]

He deserves them over Steve nash both times , plus you can’t ignore the defensive teams he’s made

[@IsaacLikesGames]

Also the 1 MVP award that Kobe won wasn't deserved. Lebron that same year averaged more points, more assists, more rebounds, he had a better field goal %, better 2 point%, more blocks, and the same amount of steals as Kobe. So Kobe shouldn't have even won MVP in 2008, and he was never really the best player in the league at all during his career.

[@tj5180]

@@YounginBallinhow did Kobe deserve it in 05 when his team didn`t make the playoffs lol and Kobe fans just look at stats and discredit nash when he was valuable for the Suns. They won 29 games the season before also in 2006 they didn`t have amare due to injury and Joe johnson left the team. nash was their focal point of their offense, without him they were the 17th offense in the league that season.

[@YounginBallin]

@@tj5180 because he’s Kobe… nuff said

[@rjallday28]

@@YounginBallin because he's who??boy you sound the dumbest

[@judon4908]

Less than 2 minutes in and I can already use your own logic to debunk your narrative. You say that Kobe hurt his team defensely because he had a negative defense plus minus rating and then you showed the leaders of that category; Joakim Noah, who was a 1x DPOY, 3x All Defensive, and 0x steals or blocks leader was ahead of Hakeem Olajuwon a 2x DPOY, 9x All Defense, 3x Blocks champion. So Joakim Noah was a better defender than Hakeem Olajuwon? Is that a fact?

[@odfgkta6669]

Did you kill Kobe bean Bryant, Andy?

[@jackjax7921]

Kobe has 1000 free throws made than LeBron yet LeBron has 3000 more points than him. LeBron is technically a better scorer.

[@kylearenofsky5210]

Excellent video, Andy.

[@DirtySports]

And Nick D!

[@kylearenofsky5210]

Dirty Sports That goes without saying. He never misses!!

[@TrideepNagg]

Kyle Arenofsky bet u 2 are happy now huh?

[@kylearenofsky5210]

Trideep Nag Dumb comment. Just because we don’t think he was a top 10 NBA player doesn’t mean we are happy to see the man dead. It’s a tragedy beyond belief.

[@paulymcfly]

People are more narrative driven than fact

[@oppailover5439]

Unpopular comment, but… very true

[@Abdyounus]

If you count when Kobe was actually started playing (98-99) to 2013 when he tore his Achilles he is at least top 10 in all these statistics if we look at defense there is only one year 1999-2013 he made a defensive team and made his team worse on defense and that year was 2011 when he was 32 years old. The thing about defensive stats is that it hardly takes on ball defense into consideration and because of that does that mean Dennis Rodman is a bad defender because he doesn’t have good stats of course not because defenders like Kobe and Dennis will snot have their impact shown in the defensive stats you actually had to watch basketball. 2010 vs the Celtics game 7 of course he had a bad game but he still had 23 points and 15 rebounds. Literally nobody shot well that game and if Ron artest saved Kobe then ray allen saved lebron but that’s not how this works. Bulls vs Seattle gm 6 Jordan shot 6 for 22 and shot 26 percent and didn’t dominate in any area like Kobe did I don’t see anybody talking about Jordan folding on that same year lebron in the playoffs played dog water vs the Celtics but I don’t see anybody talking about lebron folding everybody has bad games in big moments. Kobe in the last ten seconds is the only stat you show for clutch actually what the nba defines as clutch time is the last 5 minutes of a game that’s within 5 points. If we look at these moments in the finals Kobe has scored in total 76 points on 45.6 percent shooting while lebron has 74 points on 30 percent shooting. (Side note) Kobe has lead the league in 4th quarter scoring way more times than lebron has in the playoffs regular season and finals. When you look at Kobe shot 35 percent in the finals this amount of times you have to know for 3 of Kobe’s 5 chips there was hand checking and the nba was much more defensive minded in the 2000’s and that’s why he hasn’t been as efficient. (Side note) Kobe is the only player to have 3 straight playoff runs with 600 plus points and he beat 11 50 win teams during those 3 straight finals runs unlike lebron james’s competition when he was playing in the east. The last thing I would like to say after breaking all your arguments to cookie crumbs. You had to actually watch basketball instead of just looking at a stat sheet and I really hope you didn’t pay the guy who wrote you this script.

[@Abdyounus]

Kobe’s a top 5 player at least unless you want to twerk it up and use some stats that you pulled without using proper context

[@Abdyounus]

I like how nobody mentions that Kobe in 00-02 was way better in the western conference But when Shaw goes against the weak worn out eastern conference opponents Shaw gets all the credit

[@Abdyounus]

Michael Jordan never won a playoff series without pipen and if you’re still using ortg and drtg then by your logic d.j mebenga should’ve the goat

[@Abdyounus]

Why do we act like pau gasol is this first ballot hall of famer

[@Abdyounus]

The disrespect is crazy

[@darkmaster2349]

BUT ANDY, HE WON THE 2010 NBA FINALS, even though he played a terrible game and didn't deserve to win that game and the only reason why he did win it is due to Pau Gasol and Ron Artest, to be fair this saltiness is due to me being a Celtics fan, but I can barely get over that loss-

[@UdjCub420]

Bad taste

[@manniesupasport7977]

The Score of game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals was 83-79 Lakers. It was a defensive game Everybody except Rajon Rondo (ironic) shot bad that game. Bring up Pierce, Garnett, Allen, Odom, Bynum, Gasol, Artest shooting stats. All of them are horrible. Kobe got the record for most rebounds (15) by a guard in a finals game, in game 7... AND LED ALL SCORERS WITH 23 PTS. PUT SOME RESPECT ON THAT MAN’S NAME RIP

[@tahrielove4322]

Mannie Supa Sport nobody ever bring up those stats in game 7 for everyone that played in that series they only bring up Kobe lol

[@judahmourneth3211]

Mannie Supa Sport you guys want to put Kobe as a top 10 player but hold him to the same standards as those guys you just named because they all Shot bad!!’ Sorry doesn’t work like that. Kobe is not a good finals player 25/5/5 on 41% only back to back finals MVP to not shoot 45-50% those rebounds he grabbed were off his bricks and his FRONTCOURT were able to box out that allowed him to get the rebounds. He literally was costing him team the game.

[@2kolbe010]

@@judahmourneth3211 there still second chance points or defensive boards. They still hold credibility.

[@romagnuslarsson7065]

Kobe Bryant was the most complete player of all times, offensive and deffensive, when Basketball fans realize about this they will realize NBA should give him more MVPs

[@soulmedicine1184]

Men lie, women lie and numbers do too. None of that bs can override his entire body of work. More 30 point games all time More 40 point games all time More 50 point games all time More 60 point games all time More 80 point games all time Lead his team in assist 10 years out of his 20 year career Had similar numbers in the regular season and finals as Shaq did in the 2001,2002 runs Faced more 50+ win teams then Mike and LeBron Paul Gausol never won a playoff game until he played with Kobe Shaq couldn’t win any titles until Kobe became a starter FOH with that bs talk

[@jacoblee5796]

What do you think that means!? Kobe has all those scoring numbers yet when LBJ passed Kobe on the all time scoring list he did so on 1880 less shots. You bring up assists!? Seriously!? Do you even understand the game!? LBJ spanks Kobe in assist numbers! The 50 win team thing is just stupid and desperate. You play who play, it's not like people get to pick. That is probably the most meaningless 'stat' there is. After Shaq left Kobe was either not making the playoffs or getting bounced in the first round. Not sure how Gasol not doing anything without Kobe is a great argument for Kobe when he didn't do anything without Gasol. Do Kobe fans think these things through? Shaq had already been to the finals before he ever played with Kobe, its not like Shaq hadn't had success in the NBA.

[@quickchaos2009]

Bro the reason for all those scoring accomplishments is he was chucking shots all over the place he the biggest chucker and ballhog in history

[@sardeegaming]

The amount of wins your opponent has is a good measurement of how good they are as competition definitely not a meaningless stat by that logic who cares if Lebron beat a 73 win team bad teams aren’t racking up wins

[@jacoblee5796]

@@sardeegaming Nobody cares that LBJ beat a 73 win team, nobody ever makes that argument because it’s stupid and irrelevant.

[@sardeegaming]

@@jacoblee5796 are you even in nba talking circles Lebron beating the 73-9 warriors is what started to put him in the goat conversation what do you nobody cares

[@kevinknepp131]

First 9/11, now Kobe. Ruther cannot be stopped.

[@MyAb111]

“Gasol was more efficient in 2010 finals” Kobe had a broken shooting hand during the entire 2010 playoff run. Most players would’ve ended their season with that injury. Kobe not only still played but lead them to a championship. 🤦🏾‍♂️ Now a clutch shot is only defined as a 10 second or less shot. 🤦🏾‍♂️ When someone is clutch they turn it up in the 4th quarter and break the other teams will with minutes left so you don’t need a last second shot. You know how many times I’ve seen Kobe score 15-20 points in the 4th and put the game out of reach.

[@dryames4319]

Honestly. Being clutch is last 5 mins with the score between 5. This guy is super disingenuous.

[@ejcreeper7282]

Kinda crazy he died one day after this was posted, I was confused because if something like this was posted after he died, people would be so mad.

[@2kolbe010]

Kobe has the accolades to be a top 10 player. The only thing is his shooting percentage.

[@claing-nd9tb]

Youre too young to have watched actual games Kobe played in in his prime so you make arguments based on stupid analytics because you're young and new to basketball. You think he won five titles as 1st/2nd best player on his team by accident? You don't get 1st team all defense if you're not really impacting defense most nights.

[@DirtySports]

I’m 41, probably older than you. Lived in LA for 13 years during Kobe’s prime. But please make random assumptions about me viewing Kobe. He’s the most overrated player of all-time.

[@acason4]

This was just straight truth & I’m sure it leaves so many butt hurt Kobe fans, but facts don’t care about your feelings.

[@Joshwaheazo]

Numbers don't really tell the full picture across different eras dude. I think having Kobe top 10 is fine, as long as nobody is placing him above 7th all time. If you want to argue about Kobe, he was only the best player in the league for 2-3 years between 2006-2009. Most players have way longer stretches than that.

[@zubeirjamaa]

Dude made this one day before Kobe died😂

[@avlbj]

lol maybe kobe saw this video

[@bigbuddahmane]

Is this really something to laugh about

[@zubeirjamaa]

@@bigbuddahmane Obviously not, but it’s hella coincidental.

[@alp165]

Kobe is a great player, and defınitely a top 10 player. But he is not better than LeBron. That is it.

[@zubeirjamaa]

@@alp165 Who brought LeBron up? Swear to god you LeBron fanboys bring up LeBron out of nowhere... this vid isn’t about Kobe vs LeBron, it’s about whether Kobe is top 10 ever.

[@jukztv76]

I'll pick MJ Kareem LeBron Magic Bill Wilt Bird Shaq Duncan Hakeem over Kobe. He's somewhere between 11 to 15

[@danneeguitar3102]

KB is top 3-5 according to almost all NBA and former NBA players. Only people who don't play basketball like analysts and media writers say otherwise. Kobe is arguably the most skilled player in basketball

[@DirtySports]

You responded to a factual video with "opinions." Try again.

[@danneeguitar3102]

@@DirtySports The fact is the definition of clutch extends past the last shot. The fact is stats don't tell the whole story. If someone makes 6 shots in a row in the 4th but miss the 7th shot for game winner, is he regarded as "not clutch"? In countless games, Kobe has carried his team in the 4th yet failed to make the game winning attempt, and people only use that last shot as a justification as to why he isn't clutch. Kobe has led the league in 4th quarter scoring many years at high efficiency. DeAndre Jordan shoots 68% FG from the field, thus does that make him a better shooter/scorer than Kobe 45% FG? Stats don't tell the whole story, you have to utilize stats in context with the actual game being played. If you actually play and watch basketball, you know that Kobe is clutch and a top 5 player of all time.

[@DirtySports]

"if you actually play and watch basketball" LOL Resort to personal attacks when presented with factual evidence. He's not clutch and not top 5. #Facts

[@danneeguitar3102]

@@DirtySports So your opinion is supposed to worth more than those who actually played with and against Kobe? This includes MJ, Lebron, Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Shaq etc. who all said Kobe is in the top 5 greatest players of all time. You just ignored the fact that Kobe led the league in 4th quarter scoring, and also how dumb it is to utilize stats without context.

[@eddy6252]

Hes literally so overrated how can ppl judge his rankings based on his “mamba mentality”

[@nathanc30]

My top 10, IN NO ORDER: Magic,Bird, MJ, LeBron, Hakeem,Kareem,Duncan, Russell, Dr. J., Shaq. (Moses malone and Isaiah thomas just got bumped out) He isnt better than the above players. Hes tier 2 all timer with Starting with Moses Malone 11 (3xmvp beast) isaiah thomas number 12. Wilt,Kobe, Durant,Curry, D.Wilkins, Dirk, Rick Barry, Maravich, Gervin, Garnett etc

[@cosmicmike7299]

Sorry to keep going on, but Shaq on the other hand, unbelievably underrated all time. He is top 5 in my opinion. Would love someone else’s take.

[@bperez003]

“No… I don’t think I will” And don’t like ur own comment

[@benjaminan1183]

Agreed

[@Spin24Doctor]

Possible but it’s hard to compare him with other eras like Wilt and Russell. Personally I got Jordan Lebron Kareem Magic Bird top 5. But I respect putting Wilt, Russell, Duncan or Shaq at 5.

[@rawgrave_]

@@Spin24Doctor respect your list. Random question but where would you rank Hakeem all time?

[@tj5180]

He`s not better then Jordan, Bron, kareem or bill Russell, hakeem and duncan, kobe. Shaq isn`t underrated. He`s fairly rated but if he actually condioned better and didn`t stay out of shape he would`ve had a case tho but he disspointed

[@MistaTofMaine]

Better question would be is Kobe top 20/25? No way is he top 10.

[@fatboi1293]

12 or 13 i think

[@antoinefulgencediouf9735]

FACTS dirty sports.He's not a top 10 player ever. The problem is he's more iconic than a lot of players that are in the top 10 that's why people are so biased.

[@babisv652]

Name 10 players better than Kobe

[@antoinefulgencediouf9735]

@@babisv652 MJ BILL RUSSEL KAREEM MAGIC LEBRON BIRD TIM DUNCAN WILT CHAMBERLAIN SHAQ HAKEEM OLAJUWON

[@DFlowetry]

@@antoinefulgencediouf9735 Kobe better then 90% of the players you mentioned 😂😂😂

[@xavierelsalvador6353]

@@DFlowetry like who

[@DFlowetry]

@@xavierelsalvador6353 Only Mj & Kareem you can say that’s actually better then Kobe.

[@pmirpd8874]

Yep he's top 4 NBA greats along with Mike, Bill and Lew Al. Le fraud aint even top 17 NBa greats because with all yhe shprtcuts he took he still failed.

[@ElijahJenkins2196]

Great video bro

[@HugoSoup57]

Terrible video. Ruther doesn't have a clue what he's talking about and doesn't truly know basketball.

[@J34xalpha_KING]

PREACH!! Hallelujah! 🙏🙇🏻‍♂️😎

[@Ma1q444]

This is the truth growing up I was always brainwashed into thinking Kobe was top 3 all time and one of the goats but now that I got older I can see that’s not the case

[@rexflex7548]

Bro I call bullshit lol you basically picked all the stats you wanted to to make them look not as good Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has two finals MVPs Magic Johnson has three finals MVPs Dwyane Wade taught LeBron James how to win also LeBron James has played with any and everybody he wanted to his whole entire career … I find it odd how every other player in the NBA can have a costar except for Kobe LeBron James has the most turnovers of all times And Michael Jordan attempted five more shots game then Kobe… Yet Kobe still has the most points assists and rebounds for shooting guard in NBA history and the 2nd most all defensive selections Has made the most game winning shots … but most importantly You can’t rank Kareem higher he play with magic Bird is nowhere close Magic had Kareem and he’s better than shaq LeBron has played with every superstar and their mom Tim Duncan averaged barely 14 points and his last finals Oscar Robertson only has one championship with Kareem Top 3 need I say more

[@DirtySports]

You forgot to add Kobe has more rape charges than any of the players you listed.

[@rjmacready9828]

Facts bro, notice how the guy who made the video didn't respond with an argument. Theres some delusional kobe haters out there

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@DirtySports I’m not a Kobe fan but he’s top 10. And by the way, Kobe never punched his teammates like MJ, he never doxed a heroic officer like LeBron, he didn’t disrespect the media like Kareem, and his GM skills aren’t as bad as Magic and his coaching isn’t as trash as Bird’s

[@unknownonyx]

@@DirtySports I would expect a deranged racist to bring up off court stuff. Meanwhile, dedicating this video to your favorite player which is Kobe. Feel free to disagree.

[@LJMadrigalMusic]

A random youtuber: let’s talk about the facts *pulls out stats* That’s a bad take. Stick to skateboarding, bro. 😂😂

[@DirtySports]

Classic Kobe stan - when presented with facts resorts to name calling. Kobe is still overrated.

[@LJMadrigalMusic]

@DirtySports Enough of the disrespect. It's crazy how most of you came out after Kobe died. You can use statistics all you want, but using it to prove your "facts" is atrocious because at the end of the day, statistics is just one fraction of the sport. Well, regardless of what you say, your case is already debunked numerous times by better channels with higher numbers than you. 😆

[@MANDMK]

@@LJMadrigalMusic Facts can never be debunked. Opinions can.

[@Hunt9-qb1if]

Your arguments are weak. LeBron is not a better defender than Kobe Bryant. He doesn’t have as many all defensive first teams at all you’re bringing up ESPN plus minus is where you lose your argument because they don’t tell the whole story if you think LeBron is a better defender than Michael than you’re on crackbecause that shit will have you thinking he’s number one all time and defense and we all know LeBron is a lousy defender because he’s not a very good defender

[@boonebeasley9622]

Your only focus is LeBron he has 9 other players ranked over kobe

[@nickbrown4841]

YOOOOOOOOO. You really killed Kobe.

[@uriah9645]

Too soon

[@bigant3601]

Uriah it’s been 6 months

[@noemamba9590]

lol on the advance stats you see players like mark Eaton top 10 ad top 10 nobody considers them top 10 probes advanced stats are bs. Truth is Kobe played the toughest competition in nba history and this guy says Kobe without a player who averages less then 18 proves hes bad bron and mj especially bron have had great teammates they’re entire career

[@jacoblee5796]

Saying Bron has had better teammates is straight BS! Bron has never played with anybody close to Shaq's level, unless you think AD is a top ten player all time. I also don't think you realize just how good Gasol was, he easily a top 5 PF/C in the league at the time. Gasol doesn't get the credit he deserves for those 3 championship runs. In 08 the Lakers went 22-5 after acquiring Gasol, they got drastically better. 2010 Gasol should of won FMVP, he was that good and Kobe was widely inconsistent both on offense and defense. Best players LBJ had were Wade and AD, neither of those guys are on Shaq's level. Wade was really only good for that first year, after that injuries slowly destroyed his career. Bosh was garbage, he had a really hard time fitting in Miami, he is probably the most overrated player LBJ has played with. Love was ok, he fit in better than Bosh mostly because he could shoot. Kyrie was also solid but again, not on Shaq's level. None of the guys LBJ played with were taking FMVP from him. Shaq won 3 playing with Kobe and Gasol should of won it 2010. Either Kobe wasn't as good as you think or his teammates were better than you give them credit for, in my opinion its both. Kobe wasn't as good as you think and his teammates were better than you give them credit for.

[@noemamba9590]

@@jacoblee5796 lmao I don’t need to say the nba does bron has played with more top 75 players than Kobe. Shaq was there for 8 years didn’t win a chip until Kobe came into his own. Yeah Shaq deserved the mvp but he didn’t carry Kobe and they complimented each other on those runs and to put pau higher is just wrong yes he was good but to say he earned the 2010 finals just wrong when Bron has won his chips his teammates contributed mightly he won the 2016 cause of kyrie and 2020 cause of AD since then nothing. And wade was great the first year they lost who wasn’t ? Bron. Outside the years Kobe didn’t have shaq shaq was trash lakers front office didn’t help look at the trade they made for shaq not to mention the nba veto a trade. You name 1 teammate and try to overrate the other while downplaying all of brons sounds about right

[@creed200569]

Lebron isn’t a top 5 player

[@XtremeThrillify]

Bring back facts only!

[@manniesupasport7977]

Kobe Hater manipulating certain stats. You’re definition of clutch is wrong. Clutch is not just 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 shots. It’s 2 mins of less in a close game or the entire 4th Quarter of a close game. It’s not just making the final shot either. Clutch blocks steals assists, free throws count also. Kobe is top 5 most clutch of all time, PERIOD. Bring up LeBron FREE THROW % STATS in the clutch and let’s compare. Entire overtime periods is considered clutch also if the game is close. Kobe’s best clutch play (many game winning shots in Kobe’s career) is not even a game winning shot. It’s the lob to Shaq in the 2000 WCF against Portland. Pau Gasol was 0-12 in Postseason play before trade to the Lakers. Shaq had Penny Hardaway and got SWEPT out of the 1995 NBA Finals. Shaq, Gasol, Bynum are the reason why Kobe is not near 50% FG for his career. LeBron and MJ never played with a prime back to the basket big man that was a star player. MJ and LeBron could move freely to the paint and rack up cheap dunks and lay-ups, which improves their FG%. Right now for LeBron the pace is sped up (similar to 1960’s era) rules changed to take away consistent defense and AD rarely plays in the post, allows an older LeBron to have his FG% still around 50%. Kobe couldn’t move as free, but still got to the rim occasionally. And STILL dropped 33,000+ pts for his career. Haters use Shaq, Gasol, Bynum as a discredit to Kobe greatness, but if LeBron, or MJ played with them for 15+ years, their FG% would be similar to Kobe’s in his careers. If your replace Kobe with a prime MJ or LeBron in the Lakers 2000-02 three peat, you would of got the same result in the finals. Shaq 3 FMVPs. All perimeter players take a backseat to Dominant Centers. IDGAF who you are. If you ask NBA players that played against Kobe, they will tell you that Kobe was one of the BEST perimeter defenders in his era. Those 12 (9 first team) Defensive team selections are well deserved. Kobe is top 20 greatest defenders ever and will go down as being a better defender than LeBron (6 Defensive team selections, 0 DPOYs). Kobe was the YOUNGEST player EVER to be drafted to the NBA in 1996 at 17 years old. (The FIRST perimeter player EVER to get drafted to the NBA straight out of High School btw). A youth record he held until Bynum broke it in 2005. MJ was 21, LeBron was 19. Kobe was traded on draft day to a CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDER that already had an all star backcourt. (Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel). MJ and LeBron was drafted to sorry franchises that allowed them the playing time and freedom to pad their stats early in their careers. Don’t discredit Kobe for getting traded to and continuing the WINNING legacy of a STORIED FRANCHISE THE LAKERS. That’s just as significant as turning a sorry team into a contender. It’s not a discredit to Magic, Kareem, Bird etc, but a discredit to Kobe??? Can’t have it both ways PUT SOME RESPECT ON KOBE’S NAME HATER Kobe is top #7 All Time GREATEST EVER RIP TO A LEGEND

[@lilduck7106]

He didn’t manipulate stats, stats can’t be manipulated, and he isn’t wrong either plus Kobe was only able to win the finals with a really good big man look at the stats, Kobe made the lakers worse on defense stats show it, he got voted on his defensive accolades not really deserved, Kobe was traded to a successful franchise, lebron was drafted to the trash Cavs at the time and mj brought hope to Chicago, Kobe had horrible shot IQ, horrible teammate as well plus magic, Kareem and bird actually helped there teams not hurt them

[@manniesupasport7977]

@Lil Duck LeBron was a “great” teammate??? Lol I’m a Laker fan and I know that’s some BS. Ask Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Jason Hart, if LeBron was a great teammate. Shit ask Kyle Kuzma who’s still on the team (luckily) if LeBron is a great teammate. If you make the team worse on offense and on defense, you would not be playing. You would be riding the bench. You sound stupid. That’s why some stats are misleading. Eye test and stats go hand and hand. You can manipulate certain stats to justify any narrative or opinion , bogus or legit. You can OMIT certain stats also that a refutes you’re narrative or opinion also.

[@lilduck7106]

Mannie Supa Sport at least lebron tried helping Kobe had horrible shot IQ, made the defense worse, never tried helping his players, drove shaq out of LA, and Kyle kuzma is a good player he’s just not the first or second scoring option, besides without rings Kobe is just a average player

[@manniesupasport7977]

@Lil Duck Lol you are BANNED from talking basketball. The only sports you can talk about now is swimming 🏊 fencing 🤺 and curling 🥌

[@lilduck7106]

Mannie Supa Sport you just mad you ain’t got a lot of facts that show he deserves it, plus a lot of the times Kobe missed and pau or Ron had to make the shot, that not so clutch Kobe couldn’t make

[@Hunt9-qb1if]

LeBron James is not in the discussion for goat argument not when you jump from Team to Team buying championships if you’re gonna say you deliver fax then talk about fact the dude is not even close to being in old discussion with Michael Jordan

[@anthonycrager8882]

Plus minus is a terrible stat. The best players never have the best plus minus. Defensive rating per 100 possessions is a better guage imo. Also take into account Kobe played 4 years when maybe he should not have.

[@tj5180]

some of the stats are bad he used

[@jacoblee5796]

It works for most other all time great defenders.

[@jrsmith1998]

lol. Dude. Advanced analytics works for Lebron and Mj. There is a reason Kobe is so far down the line based on those metrics. It’s because he isn’t as good as those guys bud.

[@Hunt9-qb1if]

Thank you

[@amenx]

He beat the most 50 win teams in the playoffs. Plus pau never won a playoff game with out Kobe.

[@jinsonglei3185]

He beat those teams or you meant the Lakers beat those teams? A lot of those "50 win" games come from the early 2000s when Shaq was the first option. Pau Gasol had a higher win share/48 minutes than Kobe in the 2010 finals and Pau was the person who stepped up in the fourth quarter of the game 7 of the 2010 finals.

[@amenx]

@@jinsonglei3185 #L for you pau never 👎 won a playoff game without Kobe stop the 🧢. Kobe beat the most 50 win teams without shaq. Shaq was swept in the finals before Kobe. Shaqs greatest years were with Kobe. Kobe’s greatest years were without shaq.

[@330dinero8]

@@jinsonglei3185 facts

[@melvynsngltn27]

Pau won a playoff series without Kobe in 2015

[@melvynsngltn27]

​@@amenx no he didn't

[@johnvuhngonzales7459]

Why compare tp lebron when lebron is a flopper that stacks teams and goes to weak conferences. See how many allstars lebron had but only won 4. He even had dwade the 3rd best sg but they couldnt even 3peat. If lbj didnt have the allstars around him we wouldnt even be talking about him. The nba really pushed his career to be comparable tp Jordan. Most nba greats achieved more in less time. No great player flops and leaves teams.

[@DirtySports]

Kobe literally demanded a trade during summer of 2007. He didn't win a single playoff series without Shaq, then demanded a trade. So they traded for Pau and started winning again. But please go off and maybe learn how to use Google next time.

[@dejon18]

28-6-5 for a 15 yr prime is definitely top 10 (id say top 5) along with his other accomplishments

[@sidneypc6714]

Kobe Bryant stats 24.99 ppg 44.7% fg 32.9% 3pt Reads his career stats 1996-2016 I can take 5 years out of LeBron James career to make his numbers look even better 😂 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history 14,481 Kobe Bryant isn't a top 5 all time player

[@dejon18]

@@sidneypc6714 his first two years he wasnt a ft starter and the final 3 years were plagued with injuries . From 99-13 28-6-5 . Check your facts buddy

[@artskyea13]

@@dejon18 Update new after yesterday game Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron a better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.4%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Most missed shots in NBA history 1. Kobe Bryant 14,481 2. John Havlicek 13,417 3. Elvin Hayes 13,296 Total Points Scored Career LeBron 34,819✔️ Kobe 33,643 ▫️ LeBron more points then Kobe Kobe more missed shots then LeBron Total 3pointers made LeBron 1938✔️ Kobe 1827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,035✔️ Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 968✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 72.06✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Pippen 6 rings > Kobe 5 rings So having more team awards rings doesnt mean better player Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe Bryant to 3 sidekick rings Bleacher report top 50 best NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant 2000 NBA finals Lakers 4 Pacers 2 Kobe 15.6 pts and 36.7% fg and 20% 3pt carried by Shaq 38.0 pts and 61.1% fg and 16 rebs and finals mvp LeBron James 16-6 owns Kobe in 22 career meetings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe Bryant got swept 😂 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg and 14,481 most bricks in NBA history isn't top 10 player all time go cry some more Kobetard

[@sidneypc6714]

@@dejon18 Kobe Bryant stats career 24.9 ppg 44.7% fg 32.9% 3pt 14,481 most missed shots in NBA history 😂😂😂 You can try to cut out some of his career to try to make his numbers look better But Kobe Bryant numbers on any NBA site is what I listed 😂😂😂

[@dejon18]

@@artskyea13 everything that you copied and pasted is irrelevant i didnt make a kobe vs bron agrument. Learn to read lol my argument is that kobe is top 10 or top 5 lol 😆 😂 🤣.

[@Ma1q444]

Also funny how the media never talks about Kobe choke jobs in 2004 finals and in 2006 blowing a 3-1 lead

[@cpt191021]

he has always had all stars and even hall of famers playing next to him his whole carrer, he was dirtiest player and got the most b.s calss cuz NBA needed a new Jordan

[@hgffghhhjgfff1653]

Same as Lebron. Why do u guys think that a player is supposed to carry a team to a championship. Literally every superstar who won a ring had help

[@Sam-oe4dt]

@@hgffghhhjgfff1653 he means he wasn’t always the best player on the team

[@stanleynyc2742]

@@Sam-oe4dt i means out anybody next to shaq they also wont be the best player surely not the most dominate

[@hakeemmackey2738]

So who won singlehanded?? Kobe did the most with the less out of any all time great

[@andrewsprague8444]

Thats the most laughable comment ever. You watched lebron at all and his teams. Kobe a co star lebrons is plural times three just to get what 4 rings and drive for padded stats wjen you cant breath on people. Lol.

[@JorgeGarcia-xd6ve]

1. M. J. 2. Lebron 3. Timmy 4. Shaq 5. Carter 6. Iverson 7. Bird 8. Kidd 9. Dirk 10. White Chocolate

[@legendarywiimaster]

This top ten is horrible. AI is in the thirties, Carter ain’t even top 50, Kidd is in the 20s or 30s, Jay will was a frikin role player, and Shaq ain’t top 5. Also where’s magic kareem kobe hakeem and russell?