Should Miraculous Have a Time-Skip? ⎮A Miraculous Ladybug Season 4 Discussion

[@Rachaelsteven748]

I'm scared about Marinette loosing her memory because she's now the guardian. Imagine if Adrian and marinette finally get together and then something happens where she has to give up her title.

[@EDEN-sf1hj]

I think she will only lose her memory of being a guardian. Not ladybug because Tiki is supposed to stay with her until she dies unless she makes someone else a guardian

[@deyaniraahrz]

@@EDEN-sf1hj I don’t think that’s true because when master Fu gave up the miracle box to Ladybug and made her the new guardian he not only lost the memory of him being guardian but also lost the memory of his sweetheart. In the train scene he said “we’ve only just met but I feel like I’ve known you since forever” when he saw her, indicating he doesn’t remember her😔😔😭

[@lizziebug6208]

@@deyaniraahrz That's because when he first fell in love with her, he was already the guardian, but when Marinette first became Ladybug, she wasn't the guardian yet. In feast, he said that he was the guardian when he was a young kid. I think it was 12 years old. So when Marinette makes someone else the guardian, she will only lose the memories of what happened when she was the guardian.

[@quinncotsifas6870]

what if something happens where she has to give up her position and forgets everything.... butttttt that leads onto her finally falling in love with cat noir because with not remembering she can look past everything and see him as himself IDK IF THAT MAKES SENSE BUT YK

[@Someone-le9wl]

When mari forgets tikki and i see tikki being sad..ill literally cry so much

[@herbi607]

I feel like they should defeat hawkmoth and then skip into the future. Where one day in their now ordinary lives, the new hawkmoth shows up and they have to become ladybug and chat noir again and fight her (lila most probably)

[@thorisomokhethi8094]

Oooh and if Marinette and Adrien had been apart for a while so getting into the whole super was tricky at first. That would be so cool

[@herbi607]

@Griffin aw that's nice thank you

[@herbi607]

@@thorisomokhethi8094 omg yes. Like after high school they would go their separate ways and then reconnect when they see each other again 😊

[@lara._.8301]

That is such a cool idea! But I really dont think they would do something as dope as this.. :(

[@lara._.8301]

@@thorisomokhethi8094 Or like when they defeated hawkmoth they reveal their indentidies to each other and become nervous and dont talk to each other then when new hawcmoth appears they become friends again and then marry eachother and have a hamster named Adrien xD

[@kylledizon2951]

I actually like for a timeskip to see what the characters look like as adults.

[@hearts4valeriie]

True :)

[@abdelrahmanislam9355]

Me too, but also as adults their powers would have no limits like bunnyx that would be awesome don't you think.

[@prettyadore6472]

I agree but they might surprise us and the future hawkmoth might be someone who we don't suspect

[@micahtiel]

I feel like it was already confirmed that we'd see them again as adults.

[@micahtiel]

Also, I don't have Twitter, but if anyone does, maybe they can bring Thomas' attention to this video. They just finished writing season 5, so they haven't begun writing future seasons, which leaves the opportunity for suggestions, right?? Could anyone do that please? It'd be awesome!

[@lilymadkins3558]

I think the fandom would love the idea of a time skip after season 5!! And unpopular opinion: Lila is not going to be the future Hawkmoth! I think in the episode Timetagger, they made it too obvious which is the primary reason why I don't think she will be the future Hawkmoth and if you look back in the episode collector when Marinette imagines Adrien as Hawkmoth, Adrien in that particular clips looks a lot like Felix and I would find Lila's childish motive to take Ladybug and Cat Noir's miraculous very boring. I would much rather have Felix as the new hawkmoth since he seems to have a much bigger connection to the plot and the miraculous than Lie-la!

[@Shayla.r]

Hm but why would felix need the miraculous? What wish would he make?

[@lilymadkins3558]

@@Shayla.r maybe he would want to resurrect his father or maybe he wants to become a human( if he is a sentimonster) or maybe it has something to do with the Graham De Vanilie rings, I bet his purpose to get LB and CN's miraculous would be hundred times better than Lie-la's lame revenge on Ladybug!

[@laurarami7240]

I think she might be Mayura insted of Hawkmoth

[@eshajoshi3597]

I think so too, even though I won't be surprised if it turns out to be Lila after all. But I'll feel bad for Adrien if everyone in his family is a villain

[@Shayla.r]

@@lilymadkins3558 maybe lyla has a bad life and wishes to have a perfect one like ladybug. She'd be jealous that ladybug has a perfect life, a perfect family, perfect relationships etc. So she would want the wish and also the bonus of destroying ladybug. I dont think this will happen but ya never know 😂

[@Lk6Channel]

I've always hated the time skips in any movie or show and I've never really liked the idea of miraculous having a time skip. But what you said DOES make sense (like always). I actually really like Miraculous' writing and story line so I can expect that if they actually do a time skip, it will be well done and probably won't annoy me. What I don't like about time skips is... well, I'm not that good with explaining it but I just don't like how when the characters become adults after a time skip, they are usually more serious and more mature in a way that's disturbing since we're used to them being all young and funny and stuff. But, Bunnix did NOT annoy me AT ALL! If that's how all the characters in Miraculous are gonna be when they grow up, I will DEFINITELY have no problem with the time skip!

[@lara._.8301]

I respect your opinion, but I think it is normal for adults to become serious when they grow up

[@Lk6Channel]

@@lara._.8301 You're right! I know it's normal for adults to become more serious when they grow up! And I have NO PROBLEM with it. But I don't like to see it in TV shows, in real life it's totally normal and I'm COMPLETELY fine with it!

[@MiraculousWOW]

I pretty much agree, but I would like more plot and more character development so that we learn more about their young character then we could have a time skip! (this is just my opinion)

[@MiraculousWOW]

@@Lk6Channel exactly, for a TV show it would be better for it to be funny/quirky or something. although it is normal for them to grow up and be more serious, this is a TV show and should be entertaining (not saying it won't be entertaining as adults)

[@Lk6Channel]

@@MiraculousWOW You're completely right! And btw, I watch your channel! I'm also subbed!!

[@humanbeing493]

I feel like they wouldn’t have teased the adult superheroes if they weren’t planning a time skip. It might be hard to write, but I’m hopeful that they’d get it right. Also I really just wanna see them all as adults 😂

[@Yun_er]

Exactly

[@fabledhorse356]

My only fear with a time skip is that when we jump ahead Mari and Adrien won't be together and then have to re-fall in love. I would not have the patience for that story line. But I don't know how else they would go about creating drama outside of the Hawkmoth storyline.

[@Yun_er]

I don't think that will happen, since she is moving on and she might fall in love with chat noir instead which is kind of the same as falling in love again

[@vexywexypoo]

"Or Harry from the Cursed Child-" We do not speak that name in this house.

[@LavenderPi]

THEY DID BEST BOY SO DIRTY

[@nubbygaming2235]

2:45 had me weak 😂😂

[@Rachaelsteven748]

SAMEE,

[@savagesammy1726]

Ik!!! Luka is evolving into a simp!!

[@cl0udyroblox278]

Same

[@anyuser5788]

Same lmao😭😭

[@Yun_er]

Big OOF

[@liltroy13]

I hate that we have to wait a year for season 4

[@sosigx9770]

I know right it sucks but I understand why

[@bambam7146]

I'm just sick of them constantly changing the air date. They say fall 2020, then bc of corona they said winter 2021, and now fall 2021?? That's a huge jump from winter to fall. If they were unsure of the airdate due to corona, they should have just said that and not confirm anything.

[@DunkinCat]

some episodes are out now like "Lies", "Truth", and Furious Fu "Gang of secrets" is coming out tomorrow :D

[@CiaranIsMetal]

@@DunkinCat Yea but we need English dubbed

[@christineaikhuele184]

@@CiaranIsMetal it’s dubbed :)

[@em6352]

I've never liked time-skips in shows and I really don't think that Miraculous should have a time-skip. There's so much room for character and plot development

[@naianieo737]

@stan haikyuu for clear skin im hopefully thinking that they can do much better with season 4 because there is so much potential for this series

[@naianieo737]

@stan haikyuu for clear skin lol, I really think the writers are trying to do better, I just want them to tone down on the creepy Marinette

[@naianieo737]

@stan haikyuu for clear skin LIKE DID YOU SEE WHEN SHE TOOK A PIECE OF ADRIENS HAIR, THATS NOT THE REAL MARI I KNOW

[@naianieo737]

@stan haikyuu for clear skin IT WAS THE PUPPETEER 2, THE SCENE WHERE ADRIEN PRETENDS TO BE A STATUE

[@naianieo737]

@stan haikyuu for clear skin I KNOW, I WAS SO SHOCKSD BECAUSE SHE USUALLY NEVER DOES STUFF LIKE THAT, THE WRITERD DID HER SO WRONG IN SEASON 3

[@modernqueen9243]

I want to see a time skip with them in senior year. Idk I just don’t like seeing teenagers go into adults in shows.

[@Yun_er]

Yes they are still in 8th grade, I hope we get to see them in 9th grade

[@christineaikhuele184]

I would want them in college

[@dannymatsuno]

I loved how he said that luka is evolving into a simp and Kagami being DUMPEd!

[@mandyraccoon]

For me I think if they did do a time skip it would look something like this. First we have our heros as teens defeating Gabriel as Hawkmoth but of course they don't recover the butterfly miraculous as Lila has taken it. We have an emotional scene between Adrien, Gabriel, and Natalie as Adrian is understandably mad at both of them for doing this but this doesn't end with anything being resolved as Adrian simply doesn't forgive them and walks away. We also get a scene between Cat Noir/ Adrian and Ladybug/ Marinette as she tries her best to comfort him but she really can't do anything. Now the time skip and all of our heroes are young adults its reveled that during the time skip Lila has basically just being do what Gabriel did as Hawkmoth, just akumatizing people and trying to steal the ladybug and cat miraculous. However she doesn't do it as frequently as Gabriel did as she isn't trying to bring someone back to life. We get a look into our heroes civilian lives ( Marinette as a fashion designer, Alya as a journalist, and Adrian as a model). None of them are super famous (excluding Adrian) but it is shown that they are rising through the ranks on their given career paths. It's also shown that no Gabriel didn't go to jail and is still a fashion designer but he and Adrian don't have a good relationship as they never worked things out after the whole Hawkmoth thing. Also stated is that Marinette and Adrian use their careers as a way to travel abroad and look for lost miraculous's. I really didn't think everything through and these are just some thoughts I had.

[@loteenie_chi]

This a great theory, but are Marrinette and Adrien dating or not was their a reveal what happened to Natalie and the bodyguard and what's Emily doing. Even though you didn't plan on getting questions by someone like me but your theory was so good that I realized I wanted to know more. (You don't have to answer if you don't want to but I would really like you too!) :)

[@kuddygamer2492]

No I don't want a time skip I want them to play the show as them growing thats a butfile fart of lifeit what we should want I want us to progress with them

[@em-xq6jv]

In order for there to be a time skip one of them HAS TO LEAVE AFTER HIGH SCHOOL. So when one of them comes back and the run into each other again ⚡️ SPARKS⚡️ And then after they catch up LILA reeks havoc on Paris for the first time and they bring back the team but with ULTIMATE POWER!!!! I’ll add more in case anyone needs it

[@stephanie6718]

That would be cool but I feel like Mariette and adrien no matter there job are gonna be together (mariette is a fashion designer and Adrien a model). But great idea anyway.

[@Yun_er]

Noooo 😭

[@worldreader9945]

Honestly, I’m interested in seeing what threats the miraculous are supposed to be going against when there isn’t a rouge miraculous being abused by a supervillain.

[@johanroyce6324]

Yeah, Timetagger and United Heroez introduced that there are other villains.

[@evahorst5397]

“luka is evolving into a simp” that has me ROLLING 😂🤣

[@gowrivattenad848]

SAME

[@justsomedude1752]

One thing I wish to see if there is a timeskip or the series does continue into their adulthood is for Ladybug and Cat Noir to make an official French Superhero "league" type thing. I guess this also leads into me wanting more French superhero team episodes starting in season 4 and future seasons.

[@shaank563]

Okay you've made some good points! I was honestly not on board with this idea until I watched the video. This would be an amazing idea for the writers to do IF they do it right! I will have to agree the story right now is sort of at a stalemate because they are slow with the progression of storyline. I honestly think it would be amazing if after defeating Hawkmoth, Gabriel gets depressed(or something) and decides to move away from Paris forcing Marinette to get over Adrien or something on the lines of that. We definitely need the characters to develop further.

[@The_Ibsy]

ok so my predictions (partly theories): season 4: new characters - obviously we dont know who they are but i excpect atleast 2 new characters new queen bee - confirmed by leaks i think these will miraculous will be given (or atlest 2 of them): dog miraculous to sabrina mouse miraculous to melen tiger miraculous to julika pig miraculous to rose (as they are a couple it would make sense) - note in season 2 and season 3, 3 miraculous were given so it would make sense to do that in season 4 (and maybe season 5) (there are others but those characters should have more character development so maybe for saeson 5) other miraculous - maybe the mouse as we've already seen its powers sometime in this season the class is one year older meaning it's their second to last year of high school (I think so as thats how it works in the UK) luka and aidrein become stronger friends - confirmed by thomas astruc's twitter poll - this messes with the love... square? pentagon? idk anymore marinette finds out that luka isnt for her and instead goes back to aidrien without fully knowing so she's not as crazy as before as she luka x kgami (how come no one talks about how nice it would be) marinette somehow accidentally realises she is going back to aidrein and aidreins starts to like marinette reveal stuff: i think that becuase she is the guardian she should know everyones identity but has flashbacks to chatblanc and is scared that someone finding out her identity could cause something similar they are in a situation similar to dark owl and decide to do the identitly reveal for what ever reason - maybe marinette was thinking of doing it or she wanted to and knows that she can because she is the guardian theres a OVER POWERED (like in the last ep of season 3 - queen wasp) akumatized person (maybe chloe's OR lila's third akumatized power OwO) and dont have time to mess around with all of the identity stuff then something happens that will surprise everyone AND THEN we have the aidrientte (and maybe lady noir) momet we've been waiting for * sappy music cheering yay woo * but hawkmoth still around. :/ now i also think that the reveal could take place in season 5 but... it is really something that would.. be nice for season 4 movie: only thing we can guess is hawkmoth wins (without finding ladybug and chat noirs identities somehow) but the negative part of the wish affects lila causing to want a wish instead of gabriel returning the moth/butterfly and peacock miraculous he gives it to lila but still a mostly a happy ending now season 5: we skip to 4/5 years in the future the class have finished college (maybe seperating into their own paths but not out of Paris) bug and chat & aidrein and mari are now recognised couples in Paris and still have their miraculous (maybe blacc and tiki are a couple OwO or atleast a yin/yang type relationship) remember adults are stronger so they might have different suits or maybe even powers - we do know that they don't have to deal with transfroming back lila has been waiting for years so she can reach her true potential (remember adults are stronger) we have seen the timetagger villians that bunix talked about and majestias evil twin doesnt seem like akumatized person so maybe they're fighting non-akumatized villians maybe at the end we see marinette and aidrein getting married (shrug emoji) in season 5 everyone will do an identity reveal as they are all adults and old enough, its confirmed that bunix knows everyone elses identities so everyone should know eachothers identities notes and extra stuff: i think the only important special will be the shanghai one as its all about marinette becoming a guradian and having to take care of kwamis and stuff I didnt talk about felix as we need more info and backstory on him and WEATHER IF HIS A SENTI-MONSTER OR NOT PLEASE IM DYING TO KNOW THE ANSWER AHHHHHGGGG obviously i dont expect everything will hapeen but if i had to guess thats all my answers - i think atleast 2 from each section will happen if a timeskip doesnt happen then i think we will have a college stress moment and stuff hawkmoth unifying the peacock (be surprised if he doesnt at some point) maybe when everyone is older mrinette can't look after all the kwamis so she gives them to the individual holders Bells 1906 (in youtube comments) pointed out that at the end of season 3 hawkmoth managed to translate the thing to fix the peacock miraculous he could be able to translate other things, maybe even translate the book to get the powers which he may use (the only i think that he would use is the space ones to fly but yea).

[@eshajoshi3597]

Do you mean Tiger Miraculous to Juleka? Because the Lion Miraculous is not in Marinette's box

[@The_Ibsy]

@@eshajoshi3597 oh yea ill fix that (i was thinking cuz alya said herculese had it)

[@eshajoshi3597]

@@The_Ibsy yup Hercules had it but it is a Miraculous from another box. Maybe it could also be one of the lost Miraculous

[@Bells-hu6rs]

I would definitely be interested to see cat noir have to reveal to ladybug that he is Adrien because she is the guardian and now the only one who can make the powerup potions (besides hawk moth unfortunately). And because of cat blanc it would be a very important moment for marinette to have to decide that she cant tell her crush that she is ladybug because of her fear of the end of the world effectively. It would be a good character development moment for her to put her duties as ladybug and the guardian above her teen crush.

[@The_Ibsy]

@@Bells-hu6rs ahh yea thats what i was talking about :) but.... what do you mean when u say besides hawkmoth he doesn't know how to make them and even if he did he wouldn't use them except for big figts where he actually goes outside.

[@lollovichnlpvl6494]

What u think might happen is that a normal villain will be created between the 2 hawk moths and in the mean time we might get hints at lila making a plan to steal the butterfly miraculous

[@raquelibarra5111]

Is it just me who wants to see more of Adrien and Chloe's friendship? They have similar situations with both of their mom's being absent and I would really like to see them as friends, as we saw in the episode Despair Bear Adrien is one of the reason why Chloe wants to be a better person because she values his friendship. I would just love to see the friendship between these two.

[@MiraculousTalesChannel]

Just found your channel. You got a new subscriber. Love your videos, they always take me so deep into the Miraculous universe and thinking about everything that could happen! Keep up your good work mate :)

[@athba2008]

YESS but don't put a bad ending in the episode U-U

[@moniquedances6949]

I LOVE your videos, it opens up my mind to so many possibilities that miraculous could turn to ❤️ you’re awesome man!

[@bubblemarshy7262]

2:41 LMAOOSKMSKSKS Luka is developing into a simp Kagami's gonna get dumped My favorite parts lmao

[@impatientjones1617]

Young Justice did a wonderful job with the time skip so I would be excited to see it happen in MLB. I think there's lot's of potential for intriguing plots with it, but as the show has been written it doesn't seem like the writers would utilize characters personal interests and seem to be very comfortable in their current format

[@taylorboney1089]

Haven’t seen the third season yet but I wasn’t a fan of the time skip after season 2.

[@leejack8629]

😂😂😂 when you said luka was a simp and kagami was gonna get dumped that is so true tho

[@diooo.-_]

At this point a time skip seems like the best solution after I heard you. Thank you

[@MysticaReych]

A time skip would be awesome too, considering their fans like myself are a lot more grown now after 5 years, I have been watching this show since 2015 and I was 15 then, now I am 20 years old, I would absolutely love to see the adult miraculous team!

[@DemonMankeyMan]

Point one: the show is primarily aimed at a young audience and the marketers may not be too inclined to add that degree of separation from the target demographic. Disregarding the potential to rerelease all old toys with updates based on new character designs Point two: synchronising the plots. If a time skip is to happen then all current plot points would have to be wrapped up, Gabriel is taken down and the miraculous are recovered/lost once again. The heroes could then decide to hang up the Cape for a time until they are needed again. Then, when Lila finds the butterfly we could cut to the heroes as they receive the call and jump into action again. That or the intervening years see traditional supervillains crop up in Paris seeking to get a miraculous of their own, not exactly a secret anymore. Point three: the backup heroes. With a timeskip we have to figure out how to keep everyone in contact or decide which characters would be cut as their lives take them out of Paris. Is Max off working at some big research Foundation? Is Kim swimming competitively all over the world? Are Kitty Section off on tour? If Alya is a jet-setting reporter then how often is she in Paris? An episode? An arc? Point 3.5: character progression. If Gabriel is unmasked and taken down then would Adrien take over managing the company I stead of just modelling? If he employs people he knows are heroes then would he make excuses for unexplained absences as heroics and who would take advantage of that. Or would he establish a private account to pay living expenses for the heroes out of pocket to allow them to do their jobs? Would everyone achieve their dreams or be drastically different as what they hoped for never came to pass? I would love a timeskip to see how it all works out but a big reason everyone is available at Astucs whim is the school setting. Lose that and you face more logistical difficulties.

[@evelynrowenadawn]

Wait... what if Adrien took over the management of his father's business, Marinette designed for it, and Juleka took over modeling?

[@stephanie6718]

I agree since in a time skip we may not see all lr character since their grown up, like they can move, not be around. But 2 people I know won't be apart that long would Adrienette since they could be in a relationship and be living together, maybe kids (not sure about that but it would be cool to see what the characters would look like as parents).

[@noobenny]

Aaaaaah, I’m an old sub and I’m happy how much his channel has grown so fast😭👏♥️

[@nailsquad9390]

Sending virtual hugs to everyone who needs it 💞 You're beautiful and unique in your own way 💖 Don't let anyone change that 💖

[@everythinggirly916]

Thanks for the support *hugs you back*

[@khadraabeeb5007]

Omg when we saw in future That’s the characters marinettes hair is gonna be short hair beside the pink tails that she has now

[@kylledizon2951]

Off topic here I know this channel does mha vids as well and that got me thinking what if miraculous existed in the world of mha which class 1a student will get which miraculous in the chinese miracle box and now I counted and there is only 19 miraculouses while 1a has 20 students meaning one of them isn't getting a miraculous ( I excluded the eagle because I just want this to be the chinese miraculouses) and that I exclude mineta. Heres mine Midoriya/Momo-ladybug Kacchan/Uraraka-cat Todoroki-dragon And thats pretty much it let me know your ideas which 1a will get which miraculouses. Feel free to disagree with me. Oh and great video man.

[@eshajoshi3597]

I think Uraraka will get the turtle miraculous

[@mariabenvarghese4662]

1:13, 3:02, 4:42 , 4:49, 5:11, 5:32how do you lip sync so nicely. I love your videos

[@ladypool1404]

Yes, definitely! I want to see them as young adults; married and having a kid. That would be awesome :D Mari and Adri's kid will probably have Tikki except if they got a boy and a girl. I would like to see Alya and Nino's kid as well as Rose and Juleka's kid. Not sure it will happen in the show though :S

[@gracieholliday2171]

"Kagami's gonna get dumped" AHAHHAHHAHAHAHH the way he said it has me laughing SO hard right now XD

[@ArcaneMelody107]

I imagined the story from here going to defeating hawkmoth in some fashion, maybe is beaten for good but gets away one last time with the moth miraculous (the heroes possibly gaining back the peacock), the the next season happens after a time skip, ladybug and cat noir fighting supers like in New York but its easy and normal, then hawk moth returns except its Lilla

[@lans2144]

i think that the “big fight” where hawkmoth is defeated,they should make lb and chat reveal identities because they think they won’t make it out,but they do. they defeat him and it will skip to the future,they know who eachother are and end up dating and yeah idk what else lol

[@watch_sleep_eat_repeat4547]

I actually agree with your idea about the time skip because the flashbacks would be so cool and refreshing!

[@lashakvaracxelia123]

I hope writers will take this show on. A long run I've been watching this mf for 2 years or st i literally grew with this show and it's been relatable and loving and it's special it's not perfect but it shouldn't supposed to be. I like what they are doing to this show i mean it's their show their imagination it's wouldn't be half as good if they took every idea from fandom. I just hope it's gonna grow more like they don't do that with many kids shows were cherecters actually grow and actually become pg16 idk i would love it .it would be a new field of it's own ❤❤and i do think that this show deserves st new unique and special ❤❤❤idk it's my opinion ❤❤❤❤

[@madisonrose1758]

I would like to see a little timeskip, like 2-3 years so that you can accomplish the change and have time for it not to feel repetitive but also it won’t loose what makes it so special.

[@Anonomius0]

If there was going to be a timeskip it would probably be after lila gets hold of the miraculous but can't properly use it until she's 18 (given that after kids use the power they revert back to normal after five minutes and lila doing that every time after akumatising someone would make her rather an ineffectual villain). it could also tie in to after hawkmoth is defeated and he and natalie are taken away Adrien goes to live with his aunt only to come back after he's legally and adult and he and marinette work out some unresolved feelings.

[@panfluteskeleton]

I think a time skip would make sense especially as the core audience grows up too

[@leonarandle2140]

The time they have setup is fine going slowly is how you learn about how the show is how much you like it and the characters

[@bubblybobabubbles]

I think a time skip is a great idea, but I'm skeptical Astruc would put in a time skip to young adults, since it's "a kids show", so having adult protagonists wouldn't speak to all the "children" watching.

[@everythinggirly916]

That seems to be the problem :(

[@johanroyce6324]

If there is to be a time skip it would have to be after they finish high school.

[@bubblybobabubbles]

@@johanroyce6324 Exactly, but Astruc is always saying how Miraculous is a "kids show" despite all the teenagers watching it. With a generic "kids show", having older protagonists wouldn't speak to a child audience. So with Astruc treating MLB as a generic kids show, he probably wouldn't give it older protagonists, deeper plot, or more serious issues.

[@prima_rose]

Favorite thing out of this video "LUKA EVOLVING INTO A SIMP"

[@natka-puppet3782]

You are completle right , for show it will be better. Personly i think it would be cool to see grown characters.

[@darthgamer9468]

I really like this idea and I would certainly like to see it happen.

[@BaconNuke]

If there was a time skip there needs to be at least one episode that touches on Time Tagger a bit, like it would be kinda dumb not to at least touch on the one villain we know is in the future Also random thought with time travel a bit.. imagine an episode where Alix has to actually slow down or prevent Ladybug from doing something to protect the timeline or something, so far we only saw her protecting time in a "help Ladybug" sense.. I want to see a moral grey area where it's like "ya.. sorry but.. you can't find out Hawkmoth's identity yet" or something less drastic...

[@stephanie6718]

I agree with the time skip (but it has to be done right and not just new Hockmoth). Like have them adventure around the world maybe show them as parent to show what they would look like. Like you said make it different or more so new. For example about the miraculous in the show and learning more. Show how Mariette has grown into a better guardian now that she's has some time. The possibly it endless. But one thing I if they are time skipping I feel they should start calm, and not with new Hockmoth right away, give them some time to be calm and show us the viewer how they have grown.

[@linsidhy]

I want to see it all tbh. For me it’s fine to watch a slow story progression, I just enjoy seeing the characters. The cute fluff type moments are the only ones that make it worth it for me.

[@kerrygligorovic9758]

I would like a time travel episode perhap 2 part story featuring Ladybug and Catnoir were were they battle a new super villian that has the power to time travel in the future along with Hawk moth. Ladybug and Catnoir will meet their future selves as adult who already knows each others secret identity and married. Ladybug and Catnoir will learn that Adrien's father was Hawk Moth and learn that both the Butterfly and Peacock Miraculous are still in the wrong hands by two successor who knows Gabrien's secret. While at the same time Hawk Moth will learn that the future Hawk Moth is Lila this whole time while learn that his nephew Felix is the future holder of the Peacock Miraculous and Lila's future husband. Although at the near end of the final part of this time travel adventure Ladybug, Catnoir and Hawk Moth will sent back to their time line with the help of Bunnix. However Ladybug and Catnoir are still aware that Lila and Felix will one day become their dangerous enemy in the future. While Hawk Moth is too aware about Lila and Felix becoming the next villian but he will start to have some doubt about his own goal as a villian himself.

[@DElauw101]

I think this is a great idea.Just like you said, it freshen things up and it would be great for the show.

[@jaidynlloyd3340]

Not a time skip but it would be so cool if in a few years or so, they do a reboot or even just a movie of them in the future, it doesn’t even have to be far off, maybe a few years into the future, when they are seniors in high school, or even the summer after graduation

[@hf4189]

Tbh the last season was a bit of a bore. Like every episode is: Someone is acumatized, Ladybug and cat noir save the day. I think they should add more pazazz to the storyline if they don't wanna lose fans

[@VORTECK0117]

No, I hate time skips

[@megamuffin8072]

Hmm, what about the next generation of ladybug and cat noir? Like, their kids or somting

[@RightBoyKA-POW]

That would be pretty cool

[@christachamberlain3671]

Or maybe the last seasons will follow only the other second main characters Felix and will see is life in is home in is city or Alex and her life is like or maybe just maybe we could see how Fay is doing in her new life and her secret identity as Lady Dragon! And julica, Rose,and a nice check on Lila would be nice and maybe we can dig deeper in to here back start and her true motives and etc for all the other secondary set of main characters but what do you think?

[@kitty1kedi]

I think this is a good idea. I personally would love an episode in the future, where they have flashbacks we haven't seen. Jus my opinion, I think it would be cool.

[@sandr0taaa]

If they do add one I really hope that when they are adults they get more power aka a update in their costume. I mean Ladybug's outfit looks like a red bodysuit with black holes. I really want her to have some more patterns. Compare her with Rena Ruge or Queen bee. Or even Mayura! (Sorry If I spelt them wrong) but I really hope she has a makeover and same with Chat Noir.

[@plantpersonsage4381]

Imagine how hot Adrien would be in the future

[@DunkinCat]

damn 🥵

[@Dred0n]

I don't want to imagine it's too much😫

[@tulip135]

Petition to get you on miraculous’s production team

[@eshajoshi3597]

I have heard about the podcast but never watched it. Can you tell me where to find it?

[@everythinggirly916]

I support this

[@arnaudgerard1971]

I somehow hope, in season 6 we will have the peaceful earth intermission (you know - character development (of the side characters too), not the villain of the week battle ;) . :)

[@Fabszs81]

A time skip would be sick

[@bruh-140]

The show did get popular because of the format but you see think of it like you get your favourite food you keep having it wouldnt you want something a tiny bit more new and the love square should be over it should be revealed and finally done with so it has more plot to it like i think an akuma should be a villain for more than one ep and i am not talking about "pt1,pt2" plots i mean people like Catra, Mayura, Zuko. I think Chloe will be like Zuko.

[@semolinalibra]

I would love for Marinette to get consequences for her actions. For Adrien to be creeped out by her like Chloe and Lila because Marinette’s worse

[@shaank563]

Yes I would love it if Adrien found out about her stalking him and confronts her about it! Making her realize what she has been doing is kind of crazy.

[@stephanie6718]

I agree and am pretty sure is season 4 were gonna really see Mariette break down. Since she is now guardian and everything to her may seem to break apart. Which to me I feel bad since yes I don't like her being a creep but I know she can turn things around, with her learning and having consequences to her actions. So overall I still like her (but she needs to learn from her mistakes in season 3).

[@semolinalibra]

@@stephanie6718 yeah and Adrien to be disgusted and find someone better because he deserves better

[@shimra7996]

Lol Adrien will never hate marinette. He likes her too much to hate her. He doesn't mind her akwardness and still wants to see her more than a friend.

[@semolinalibra]

@@shimra7996 I doubt he would love a girl who bullies other girls and breaks into his house

[@MinisDunyasi5]

If there’s gonna be a time skip the episodes aren’t gonna be in school. But most of the episodes are in school so that may be a difficult writing

[@razan5931]

They'd probably be in university/college

[@theswiftladybuglover]

I would like to see a time skip! I think it would be fun especially for the older fans to see. However, the creators are very adamant “* this is a kids show*” so, I honestly can’t see them aging them up past 16 at the most. I think it would be really fun though especially if after s5, they got together, were out of school, became a model (Adrien) and designer (Marinette) duo and traveled around the world looking for lost Kwamis or something. Then maybe in s6 Lila becomes the new villain. And yes it’s way too obvious it’s gonna be Lila and here’s why. Remember in Simon Says how they made Gabriel a butterfly? They also dropped a few more hints in s1. He was the number one suspect for HM back In the day. Finally in early s2 it was revealed he was HM obviously. What if they drop even more hints it’s gonna be Lila in s4 and 5? Additionally, the biggest one being her helping Nino.

[@marichatismynameandladynoi1990]

I’ll love to see them as adults because there will be new jobs like getting a job and lying to your co workers to fight villains if the identity rule is still a thing

[@mark1A100]

I mean isnt there a possibility that the next villan just isnt hawk moth? we know there could be more miraculous and a follow up season may just have multiple ones become villans. honestly most of the main cast has already akumatized multiple times at this point and the writers clearly are running into a wall with the rules that they set up since the villans dont change powers and its just group fights that add any threat and they have now done different sets of akumatized villans multiple times. If there is a time jump I think it could be a good excuse just to shuffle out the background cast so new people to get akumatized or become villans at this point. it could be just one year

[@bijayashrestha6538]

I dont need Time-Skip but I really want to see new powers of Ladybug and Cat Noir and new kwamis too 🥰🤩🤭

[@tibiafibia9207]

There seems to be steps that need to be taken for them to use the kwamis to their full abilities a time skip missing over it wouldn’t make sense I’m just gonna say if there is one it’s not gonna be a big one

[@shadowalpha1322]

I don't mind there being a time skip I just don't want it to be to big of time skip.

[@strxberrymxlk9938]

How I personally want it to go: Ladybug and Chat Noir find hawkmoth and defeat him,a fter that mess is over, they reveal themselves to each other and it hits them that they've loved each other all along. THEN I want a timeskip in which Felix becomes a bigger antagonistic and maybe even works alongside Laila

[@lugiamastero13]

(warning slight spoilers) Id say it would be better if they progressed in the years that eventually lead up to them becoming adults like for instance we already had birthday episodes so these characters are already growing up slowly for example most characters are now 14-15 after season 2 . So we know every episode is a bit further in the year and time actually moves lol but im thinking that there could be really small time skips averaging out to like a month or 3 and then have them slowly become adults by the time season 7 or 8 ends or something. W e dont fully know the details as to when Shadow Moth is finally defeated just that he is no longer the main threat in the adult world but we cant make any guesses because even though chris came back his age isnt clear but he looks like a teen so perhaps its down the line about 7-10 years from that episode onwards that way we can see them progress through their lives until the day comes when they are fighting the new hawk moth in the future along with much more intense villains depending on who or why they became the next villain i could see it working out because there isnt that big a gap from 14-18 to be perfectly honest and the new future is around the time they become 21-25

[@lunamoonintheverse]

I think a cool ending is that Marinette will pass her guardianship to Cat Noir/Adrien because her identity was found out, then after that she would lose all her memories of the miraculouses

[@TheHoodmailbox]

Yeah, they need to switch gears. But they need to resolve what happens with Natalie. A clever switch up might be making Natalie as Hawk Moth!

[@emmagallacher3347]

I'd honestly prefer if Nathalie is going to be the next Hawkmoth, Astric said on Twitter Hawkmoth will have a boss figure and I assume that'll be Mayura, only time will tell.

[@Purplefoxess]

I’m fine with a time skip but I don’t think it can be too long otherwise it means that hawk moth knowing the identity of the other miraculous holders and having the peacock miraculous fixed he still has been able to do or accomplish anything.

[@rewriter3981]

*Alright this may be a bit weird but I do think the reveal and them falling in love should happen in season 5 then for season 6 we timeskip to them being a couple with children and knowing each others identities and we have lila being the villain then in the season finale they lose their miraculous and just like the season 3 end credits cliffhanger we should have marientte's daughter find the cat miraculous and have her rival (whoever you want to make it a new character a child of someone we already know for example let's say it's kagami's kid but they only have a rivalry because they are both fencing rivals ok and then we have kagami's kid get the ladybug miraculous and they keep it a secret (and then in season 8 where it ends) may be weird but hey a nice change of pace in my opinion* 😁

[@sejmabijelic8987]

Like i really don't care how long it takes bc i love miraculous, like i never want it to end .

[@katiesanders9158]

I think we’re gonna have a time skip to maybe about a year later when Marinette loses her memory and she has to gain it back because she still in possession of the miraculous and there is no other lady bug because if you think about it in time tagger her in the season three finale she lived a little younger in the season 3 finale then she did in time tagger

[@helenasv]

I know that season 4 episode 4 I think it was is called “Farfalla” in which Lila finds Noroo (can’t spell his name) and becomes the next hawk moth but just for that episode, maybe hawk moth will see this as a chance that he might succeed? In timetagger he is unsure about there being a hawk moth ten years later that isn’t him in fear that he might fail. I am positive Lila will be hawk moth if the time skip happens which I am hoping for. www.reddit.com/r/miraculousladybug/comments/cr8poi/so_im_looking_at_this_synopsis_for_season_4_and/

[@cyberpoint9582]

If one right I think I would be really cool to see them all grown up

[@isabellaa8875]

Sometimes time skips can work with some shows or movie. It can be a hit or miss. Especially let’s say the character about their strength and their growth they did really bad is an example of Naruto. Shippuden was the time skip. The main character (naruto) trying to get stronger was still kind of the same. No new jutsu, just a little bit more skilled with shadow clones. But his own teammates showed the most improvement out of him and I guess the side characters as well?

[@pogchampionsclan9568]

Idk but a time stamp will be good like I would like it to be not after they defeat hawk moth but they go 10 years in the future or something they talk about defeating hawk moth and see what happens maybe they have been dating (adrienette)

[@KyoKatTheCookie23]

I like the theory that Adrian will be the next Hawkmoth and it's someone else who's the new Cat Noir, as you don't see their adult faces in the episode Timetagger

[@KyoKatTheCookie23]

@@tsuki1140 Don't worry, it won't happen, Miraculous Lady bug lacks way too much in actual story telling and character development 😊

[@KyoKatTheCookie23]

@@tsuki1140 That's the point 😊 it builds character, that's what makes amazing, life changing cartoons that will mold you into what kind of adult you'll grow up to be

[@savagesammy1726]

I think we need a time skip just like in deathnote. No one wanted to see light go to uni and become a detective after L had been defeated... NO! We got straight to the point with Near. I think that’s what we need in mlb. Yes we want to see the main 2 form there relationship but we can get flashbacks or something showing some of those moments or flashbacks of moments that led to an akumatized villain. So in short.... yes we need a time skip. If Thomas Astruc watches this vid and sees this comment then you know we need a time skip.

[@phoebehorn4380]

I don’t know how the fandom will handle it if they don’t end up together and a time skip could drastically change the audience, although the main viewers are teenagers a lot of the younger viewers might not relate as much to them anymore and drop the show

[@graciebernstein9609]

I would like a time skip into senior year of high school. They're thinking about college and what they want to do for their careers. Marinette wants to attend fashion school in America, but Adrien wants to attend an international school in China, and that's what causes the romantic tension. No more will-they-won't-they. This keeps the setting grounded in Paris while also aging up the show. And traveling to new locations can be easily justified with college tours.

[@ebbabaecklundronnestam8028]

Okay they have a reveal in the end of season 5 and defeat hawkmoth. Now there is no more need for Ladybug an Chat Noi so they put their miraculous in the box. In season 6 Lila beomes Hawkmoth so they need to get back to being superheros

[@bgwhitesauce6948]

I personally don’t really want to see a time skip unless it one episode or the las episode

[@Plin-pf1sn]

Good idea and so much proof

[@eclipsewolfhead8082]

I think that no matter what I think that at the last season during the season finale they should have a 10, 15, 20, 25 years later for like 2-8 minutes.

[@piyalisingh5682]

Wow aswome theory🥺🤯

[@udneverknow2044]

I want a timeskip in 1 episode,then I want it back to normal.Or just make them meet them future selves.Huh?

[@pirateguy3521]

When they are adults Lia is hawkmoth and who is going to be mayura the supervillains needed to be better going forward and that means that no falling for stupid stuff also i hope that we see a crossover maybe

[@mikewolves8557]

I think felix will be mayura

[@pirateguy3521]

@@mikewolves8557 your wrong

[@grxnee]

they took 5 years or more for 3 seasons imagine for 2 or 4 new ones im sure seasons 4&5 are 100% SURE but i hope that there will not be a season 6 or 7 imagine how much we will have to wait by then i will be 21 years old and I also think the show will loose fans if they do this I hope they will not