Should The Habs Trade For Patrik Laine? | The Sick Podcast with Tony Marinaro May 22 2024

On this episode of The Sick Podcast, Grant McCagg joins Tony Marinaro to discuss the possibility of the Habs trading for Patrik Laine.
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[@cliffordjordan9577]

Like 8:10 to skip past the advertising shit

[@MrGodstabber]

Merci!

[@rickroberts5401]

Always a good show with Grant...

[@AG-xc5ni]

I don't agree with Grant on much but I appreciate listening to different opinions👍

[@bwright33]

I would compare Laine with Armia. Both have high potential talent, but have issues bringing it together. Unless Columbus can take some of his salary, I can't see the Habs taking him at 8.7 Mil and he continues to struggle. It would be a bad move.

[@kevmccart6902]

The key is Grant said if "Laine is motivated he can score 40 goals blindfolded!" Keyword ,MOTIVATED. I want a player who is motivated for a 9am practice,a game 7 overtime game, sent to the minors for rehabilitation,a player who when he puts the CH on he becomes a different animal.The players that evoke/respect the ghosts of Elmer,Doug,Maurice,Henri.Guy! Slafs got it,Nick got it,Cole got it,Wifi got it.They just keep on rocking!

[@FooFahFoeFum]

Small players , meaning shrimps must be extra fast,.... extra strong .... extra fearless. Caufeild is non of these... Habs should trade him while his asset value is still high .... You can get much better players for 8 million $$

[@CharlesPatrick61]

Grant is one of the best today at rating and assessing talent.

[@smdnoob100]

Sick Sick Sick very nice podcast Grant and Tony like always lol.

[@stevenpaquin126]

i always liked Laine and if he bounces back he would be a beast in MTL...

[@pascal006]

Picturing this lineup … Laine - Suzuki - Slafkovsky Caufield - Dach - Lindstrom Roy - Newhook - Armia Tuch - Beck - Xhekaj Matteson - Rainbacher Hutson - Ghule Xhekaj - Mailloux Fowler

[@kevmccart6902]

Would love 4th Iggy, Monohann,Xhekaj or Bring Struble to the wing in place of Armia.

[@habcast3978]

@@kevmccart6902 Monohann?? Who the fuck is Monohann???

[@FooFahFoeFum]

small players , meaning shrimps must be extra fast,.... extra strong .... extra fearless. Caufeild is non of these... habs should trade him while his asset value is still high ....

[@josedescoteaux1]

@@habcast3978 You don’t know Monean Monohan

[@jelugo77]

In 2-3 years Guhle - Mailloux Hutson- Reinbacher Engstrom - Bogdan extras whoever is left 2 of Xhekaj, Barron, Harris, Struble. As a third line, Id prefer Roy-Beck-Newhook

[@ng4843]

Laine wouldn’t come cheap and from a Habs stand point too risky at this juncture. Often injured and inconsistent. The Montreal fans wouldn’t put up with his play.

[@loukdare2904]

A little trivia ... Tony asks Grant what the value is for a 26th overall, to which Grant responds, "It's not great." Well, in the 2016 draft featuring Auston, PLD & Laine, the Sabres' # 26 selection happened to be Tage Thompson !!

[@Cripatron9711]

What do you guys think about Adrian kempe as possibly target he just had 75 point season it would be more of let’s take next step move but I think we could offer intriguing offers

[@djclovissio2338]

Would be nice but he's signed till 2026, good size and he's probably their best forward so I don't see it happening..

[@rgood1204]

PLD number 2. Pass!!!

[@powers1500]

Why are we having a show on Laine who is a good goal scorer but very very inconsistent ??? Do we need that guy who might be indeed another PL Dubois ???

[@lauig]

So Grant, Tony... would you rather have the CBJ trade Laine to us and pick the guy the Habs Management like the most at 4 ? Or would you rather have Colombus keep Laine & pick a D at 4th for us to then get the Lindstrom, Demidov or Sennecke our scouts truly want? I'm more inclined on the latter considering the uncertainties considering this otherwise superb player.

[@nelsonribeiro3088]

I love Grant, but Laine.... ouch! Great SICK SICK show as always

[@samduc7751]

Even if Laine solves his problems, i don't like his contract: 2 more years at 8,7 millions... What if he wants to go UFA in 2 years from now? I don't really care about the next two years to be honest, Montreal will start to contend in 3 to 5 years from now... If you have no certainty in retaining Laine, i would stay away from this... For now. Next summer, it would be different as he would be able to sign an extension...

[@MrSebby08]

This is a playoff team next season - Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield Roy-Dach-Laine Newhook-Dubois-Iginla/Anderson Gallagher-Evans-Armia Matheson-Guhle Struble-Savard Xhekaj-Mailloux

[@amadeussmith693]

First, how the fuck you make that work with the cap lol

[@MrSebby08]

@@amadeussmith693 Likely only works if somehow Dubois is bought out and they can find a way to move Anderson.

[@amadeussmith693]

​@@MrSebby08i think it's waaay too much of a long shot but just for fun, i think it's too risky. That lineup could be a ticking time bomb if Laine and Dubois dont on get back on track. That would more likely destroy the rebuild but yeah there is a small % that this team could tear up the league

[@Barracuda7]

I like the idea

[@Doppps]

I love this idea

[@acidraindrops1]

Oui tony!

[@djclovissio2338]

I really believe that Laine is the biggest homerun they could trade for, he's 26 wich is great vet experience and much more talented than Necas for example... Not too big of a price like Winnipeg's first, Calgary's first and Harris or Barron and we're ready to contend!! That good of a trade and we know he can perform in playoffs as he did in his early career

[@loukdare2904]

So the following was my 1st impression yesterday >>> Re: Laine, I say don't go there ... "Coach" Frenchie sums it up well : (1) Laine is prone to injury (2) He's on the NHLPA program 🇲🇦 (3) Salary cap (8.7 mil x 2 yrs) (4) Work ethic 👎 (5) Inconsistency (6) Doesn't fit within the Habs culture ..... WELL, ON 2nd THOUGHT ... Well, if the cost is right. If for example Columbus can do some salary retention, perhaps "re-take" Josh Anderson's contract (the irony !), the Habs really wouldn't have much to lose in trying him out short-term (like for a couple of years). In return, as Grant suggests, KH could perhaps add to the mix Harris and a lower draft selection (not necessarily the Jets' 1st round). At the end of the day, I guess it might be worth a shot ?

[@Goodstandards11000]

I would for sure trade for laine!! Low cost medium risk high high reward

[@FooFahFoeFum]

trade caufeild for Laine yes....

[@robertlavigne9828]

Why would you chance a player from the outside when you are progressing on a rebuild? I don't care if we can get him at a decent price. Secondly taking Slaf from the top line is asinine. You keep them together.

[@SorcRogier]

Laine would be a nice fit with the Habs

[@Kris-bx5qj]

you guys discussing Patrik Laine, and potential trade to Montreal?? 🤦‍♂ lol yeah.. i'ma sit this one out 😂

[@habs4life41]

Rather have Kuzmenko who is better motivated

[@vdac1068]

Rather go for Nychuskyn

[@moviestoshare813]

1) he’s under contract 2) he’s suspended for 6months

[@FooFahFoeFum]

​​IMO if Habs cannot acquire Demidov or Lindstrom, they are going to trade their 1st pick + assets for a top 6 nasty forward

[@powers1500]

Possible, but I see them them trading down instead and pick up a guy like Sennecke at 9th or 10th...time will tell !!!

[@FooFahFoeFum]

@@powers1500 If they trade down that means the habs will get the 9th or 10th plus an asset.???

[@Gagne87Fixxer]

He already played at center so we can just do like Bergevin did with Drouin… 😅

[@chosenone5471]

Sick

[@georgenickerson7741]

Hard no to Laine. He's injury prone with bad attitude with huge contract. The last thing you want in a dressing room. Habs finally got one of best lines in league why you want break it up? Whomever we draft at #5 will play with Dach. Not Laine

[@starledge]

Agree. In 2 & 1/2 years they traded for ... zero established players. I expect them to get a young player with skill and ceiling that they can develop. For sure they are being careful about who they bring into the dressing room. They passed on PLD last year.

[@Michkov39]

Yesss they should trade for him in a hurry while his value is low !! Laine would be a home run in Montreal

[@mannyo2909]

Look at his games played in past 4-5 seasons, I say this would be a mistake.

[@djdemers8709]

Habs need to draft Iginla if he is there at 5.... no brainer they have enough D... just the name alone... he could be Montreal's golden son for the next 10 yrs.... and YES i would take a chance on Laine... Cheers from Sudbury TONY!!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻

[@robertlavigne9828]

I still would prefer Lindstrom

[@FooFahFoeFum]

IMO if Habs cannot acquire Demidov or Lindstrom, they are going to trade their (1st pick + assets )for a top 6 nasty forward

[@diceymaan]

A lot of folks talk a lot of sh*t about Laine, that he was only good one season or something like that. Just so you know, Laine was the 12th most efficient even-strength goal scorer over the last three regular seasons. (minimum 1000 minutes played). Laine has a 98 % goals per scoring chance. And only 1 % of the scoring chances were High-Danger scoring chances, so he finishes from places others can't. In 2021-2022 and 2022-2023 Laine scored a combined 48+60=108p in 111 games in a team that sucked ass. He was the best-producing player in Columbus in both seasons. Yes, Laine has to get better with whatever mental health issues he is dealing with, but if he gets better and returns he can definitely be an asset.

[@FooFahFoeFum]

small players , meaning shrimps must be extra fast,.... extra strong .... extra fearless. Caufeild is non of these... habs should trade him while his asset value is still high ....you can get a much better playoff hockey player for 8 million dollars

[@FooFahFoeFum]

People are blind... Can't they see that caufeild is not a top line winger in the playoffs

[@matthewlarose9958]

I think Mailloux will be better than Reinbacher in the end!

[@AG-xc5ni]

If PLD gets bought out and you can sign him cheap 4 years that is the way to go.

[@kevmccart6902]

Slovakia,Latvia,Kurdastan will produce the next "NEXT ONE!"

[@FooFahFoeFum]

What about Pakistan???

[@filterlessbear9250]

Id take a pass on Laine and make a swing at a second top 7 to aquire Sennecke! Imagine if we cone out of that draft with either Demidov or Lindstrom + Sennecke! Either the top 2 pairs of hands in the draft or 2 best forwards with size! Top six would be complete either way!

[@amadeussmith693]

Difference of price between Laine and a top 7 would be massive. Laine for cheap is kind of the main argument here

[@filterlessbear9250]

@amadeussmith693 I agree, but maybe they could do something similar to the Dach deal. Package Winnipeg's pick with either Harris or Struble for something in the low teens then that pick plus the other D or maybe even Beck (not ideal to include Beck) to get the top 6 or 7

[@amadeussmith693]

@@filterlessbear9250 So Winnipeg's 25th + Strubble + Beck vs 6th or 7th?

[@filterlessbear9250]

@amadeussmith693 preferably Struble, Harris and 25th

[@starledge]

They might get 2 top 10 picks in 2025, without giving anything up. They have to start playing Hutson & Mailloux, will loose Savard and start Reinbacher. They aren't moving up the standings with 3 defence men who currently have 3 games experience. Calgary is picking 9th this year and Mtl have their 2025 pick. They moved out experience D recently and could finish even lower.

[@starledge]

No Tony, they did not go out and 'acquire' Matheson. He was a swap for Petry who demanded a trade. He was not an addition. He is a temporary player who was forced onto the team. Savard will go in Feb then Matheson will be the only D left with over 150 games experience.

[@nrich5127]

Spend more wisely but get more than "a possible career recovery " ... too much risk.

[@ricosuave8123]

As far as answering the question in the title … *NO!!*

[@moviestoshare813]

If Laine can realize he’s 26 years old and it’s time to drop Fort Nite… He could be an absolute SUPERSTAR

[@Gagne87Fixxer]

I can’t imagine the amount of in-game purchases Laine must have bought with all the money he’s got lol

[@AG-xc5ni]

HELL NO!!!

[@Cripatron9711]

With injury history I’m out on Patrick sorry grant

[@moviestoshare813]

They’re talking Patrik Laine. Not Nolan Patrick

[@Cripatron9711]

@@moviestoshare813 I know that… still both are injury prone no thank you

[@jamessneddon9956]

Injury prone, not great defensively, 8.7 million per year cap hit. Past two teams looking to trade him in 6 years. I say hard pass on Patrick Laine.

[@jelugo77]

Caufield + + Struble or Beck + Winnipeg's pick for Laine and 4th OVA

[@FooFahFoeFum]

n...f...w.

[@vdac1068]

All these geniuses trading away Mailloux… There is no depth at RD Reinbacher Mailloux Barron And then…?

[@Gagne87Fixxer]

It’s best to trade Mailloux before other teams figure out he can be a nightmare in his own zone

[@mannyo2909]

Fuck no! Have you seen his games played the past 4-5 seasons?

[@videopyc]

Laine is a lame team player.

[@stockey]

He often gets injured, so, no.

[@FooFahFoeFum]

Larger kids get injured allot between 16 and 22 ... their bodies are awkward growing big so fast. ... but at 25 and on, watch out they'll eat you for breakfast ...

[@joelmarinier9199]

Short answer: NO!

[@ericmessett4969]

Noooo

[@MS-ro9dm]

Oh please do it. First off it is obvious to Stevie that Laine might, might be a little arrogant, immature and sulky. Truth is outside of PK Montreal hasn't had an easily unlikable player on the team since before the Leafs won their last cup for them, (while wearing Habs sweaters). I prayed, oh how I prayed that Burrows would sign there when he left Vancouver, but alas he signed with Ottawa. He really would have fit the bill. A shame he didn't spend his career there really. So ya do it. He will handcuff the teams salary cap for years and only contribute when it doesn't matter , do it.

[@HunterMagunter]

Hes always injured

[@davidrobinson4119]

I think the cost might be excessive.

[@marcbabineau6001]

They can’t ask to much, psychologically unstable, inconsistent and always injured. No team is gonna overpay for that guy, especially at his cap.

[@FooFahFoeFum]

Trade shrimp Caufeild now for Laine.... But some salary retention on Columbus is needed.

[@marcbabineau6001]

@@FooFahFoeFum dumb suggestion

[@TORHABSFAN1]

2 issues. His cap hit 8.7 and only has 2 seasons left. He's not worth 8.7 today... so I want CLB to retain or take back a contract.. but if Liane does bounce back then he's UFA with a big demand for a raise just when we are ready to contend. Also Montreal is probably not the best place for a player in the program with addiction issues.

[@FooFahFoeFum]

addicted to video gaming?????

[@jlindien8972]

Already said it, i wouldn't want Laine in my team..same as Dubois, big babies....

[@acidraindrops1]

You boomers dont want anyone on the damn team!

[@adamCarter20]

Would be a step back if they did trade for him

[@barned]

No

[@jasonpatrick5660]

These reclamation projects never work out for the Habs. Laine will not work out here. He's low effort and lazy. Do not need.

[@johanmasse3960]

absolutely not.

[@matthewlarose9958]

Is Laine not a lot like Kovaleav, big highs and lows in scoring consistently

[@acidraindrops1]

Kovalev was better

[@matthewlarose9958]

@@acidraindrops1 we don’t know that yet, and Kovy was so inconsistent in his career he was a 60-65 point average guy, only played when he felt like it. Hit 95pts, 84pts, 76pts, and mid to low 60’s pts and mid to high 50’s pts, he had moments where he could take a game over yes, but far to few and far apart, Laine is not much better with those issues as well though.

[@powers1500]

Would Laine be a good fit for Montreal 's team culture ???

[@AG-xc5ni]

Btw Laine only has 2 years to UFA so what is the point? The Habs are not making the playoffs next season. They need a player under control for at least 5 years.

[@PeterPinsonnault-yl3ib]

LOGIC???

[@CharlesPatrick61]

Stay away from Laine.

[@user-vz1wz3ir6f]

No to Laine. Just No. Another PLD. Lots of tools but the toolbox is broken.

[@habcast3978]

Let's see. Trade a 1st round pick, a young defenceman all for the privilege of only TWO YEARS for: a TWENTY SIX year old RECLAMATION PROJECT known to be HEARTLESS and PSYCHOLOGICALLY bruised earning almost NINE MILLION DOLLARS per season whose best seasons are YEARS BEHIND him that would UPSET the PAYROLL STRUCTURE by making this player your HIGHEST PAID??????? Someone's drunk.

[@FooFahFoeFum]

I would take him at 4 million .... let Columbus eat the rest. .... he is better than Pearson, Newhook, Roy and possibly Caufeild.

[@AG-xc5ni]

Laine is RH. The Habs need a LH one-timer specialist on the PP. Slaffy is not a great shooter. He should be in front of the net like Kreider.

[@ChrisMakesBeats]

Tony added nothing to this episode. Interjecting constantly with useless facts that have nothing to do with nothing other than making him feel smarter. The questions are longer than the answers. Bla bla bla bla I know you have an hour to fill but finally when good information is being exchanged we get interrupted with nonsense

[@TonyL349]

I can’t believe you guys want Laine over PLD…unbelievable

[@acidraindrops1]

Pld sucks

[@TonyL349]

If you want to make stupid trades like this go turn on the Play Station….lol

[@stanleyfranks9891]

As a Representative for the Columbus Blue Jackets, I would Like to Offer You Patty Laine and Our 2025 2nd Round Pick for Your 2024 5th Overall Pick!!! Everyone Wins!!

[@acidraindrops1]

No way, we are only trading the 26th pick

[@stanleyfranks9891]

@@acidraindrops1 Thats not enough to get Laine... Notice I offered another 2nd round pick this year as well.. which would be like pick #35 plus we could throw in a depth forward like Texier!! You guys Need Help at forward and want a Big Forward correct? Lindtsrom isn't gonna be doing anything significant for the Habs for at least another 2 to 4 years!!

[@michealwered3927]

no trade ty

[@bedbath9056]

No

[@arakafafian]

No